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Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad?
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Joe Getty
Lingokids, please. When did we become the Lingokids house?
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Jack Armstrong
No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's Lingokids.
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Joe Getty
Why Lingokids?
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Jack Armstrong
Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.
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Timothy Sandifer
With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs
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Joe Getty
and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.
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Jack Armstrong
So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.
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Timothy Sandifer
Lingokids.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Your bill, ladies.
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Timothy Sandifer
I got it.
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Jack Armstrong
No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first.
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Joe Getty
Oh, don't be silly.
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Jack Armstrong
You don't be silly.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Rock, paper, scissors for it.
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Joe Getty
Rock, paper, scissors.
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Timothy Sandifer
Shoot.
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Jack Armstrong
No.
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Joe Getty
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Ryan Reynolds
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George
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Jack Armstrong
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and get. A handful of America hating socialists won congressional primaries yesterday, which will factor into some of my questions for our next guest. If you read one book about the founding of this great country leading up to the 250th anniversary on July 4, it should be Timothy Sandifer's Proclaiming Liberty, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence. Absolutely fantastic. And we welcome back who we used to call Tim the Lawyer Tim Sandifer to the Armstrong and Getty Show. Hey, Tim.
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Timothy Sandifer
Hey, Jack. Thanks for having me back.
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Joe Getty
I'm in a mood for a variety of reasons. My son was complaining about some things they had been teaching him in school. You know, we had, if you're of a certain age, you kind of just assumed the, the, the American exceptionalism, the wonder of the founding, all the great things that came out of establishing this, this Project 250.
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Timothy Sandifer
I'm sorry, Jack, do you think that would be taught in a California public school? What in the world made you think that that would be taught in the schools of California?
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Joe Getty
I used to think that. And then, and then I became aware that, you know, whether it's neo Marxist or whatever's going on, and then, you know, the 1619 Project comes along and the fact that at the 215 birthday of our country, I'm old. So I was 11 during the bicentennial. And at least for my, you know, I wasn't reading the op ed pages of the New York Times, but I don't remember anything but happiness and gratitude. Now it's as if the whole idea of America is up for debate in the op ed sections of all your major newspapers about the founding of this country. And I'd like you to push back on that a little.
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Timothy Sandifer
Well, you know, I think part of that was maybe you were seeing 1976 through a child's lenses. Remember, this is the post Watergate era. And you know, other people who were around at the time have told me that it was not as fun as it should have been. And that there was a lingering sense of disappointment and even some nihilism over the end of the Vietnam War and things like that. So, you know, Americans have always faced these kinds of challenges, and some of them have been even much worse than what we're facing right now. I mean, it's hard to imagine that today we're worse off than the country was in 1861, for example. So, you know, we've seen tough times times. We've seen times when America's enemies have been on the ascent, and we fought back against that. Now, the problem that we face that I think is unique, is that we fought back against that with a group of people who really understood and appreciated America's ideals. And I think that is missing on the right today. And that's why the left is succeeding through default.
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Joe Getty
That's interesting. Yeah, well, everything you said there is true, but I also don't remember ever being told that we were a bad country at any point through my K through 12 schooling, which my kids do get sometimes.
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah. I do think that there's a more militant left today. And I think part of that is that, you know, the teachers of today are the. Were the students of the previous generation. And so they've learned from people who were already on the left, and the left has gotten much more intensified. And the same is true on the right also. I think what's happening is that the broad middle of common sense people are abandoning the typical left right dimension. And as a result, those who remain in those categories, the people who stay in the Democratic and Republican parties, I think they're getting more and more ideologically intense precisely because their numbers are shrinking as the number of independents expands.
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Joe Getty
Well, this move towards socialism by part of the crowd and the. What did Zoran Mamdani say, The warm embrace of collectivism, it that. Is there something to human nature where we don't want freedom and want to be taken care of that we need to push back against?
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Even I sometimes long for the days of my childhood when all of my bills were paid for by my parents and I didn't have to worry about responsibility. Of course, everybody and everybody feels envy from time to time. And you combine those two things, the fear of responsibility and envy, and you put those together, and what do you have? You have socialism. So of course people are attracted to that. And the problem is maturity means paying your own bills, and nobody wants to face that. And so as our culture rewards immaturity, intellectual as well as personal immaturity, More and more you're going to see things like this. But once again, I have to say it's not worse today than it was in say 1932. In the 1930s there was a socialist governor of Minnesota and socialism was viewed as the, the way of the future, both by right and left because you know, the reality of the Soviet experience and things had not really been publicized very much and things like that. So you know, it is true that you can be pessimistic about the current environment or you can say we're going through a pendulum swing right now. And I think the pendulum is going to swing back eventually as people have enough of this anti intellectual nonsense that's been controlling our politics for a decade now.
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Joe Getty
Sure, we've had presidential candidates get more traction as socialists 100 years ago, 120 years ago, than we are getting now. So that is a good point. Although we jailed them at the time.
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Timothy Sandifer
Yes. So I'm by the way in favor of jailing presidential candidates on principle.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Anybody who wants to be president you should look side eyed at. What are they up to? Your book Proclaiming Liberty. So the Founding Fathers were not worried about. Well, certainly the term socialism wasn't. Marx wasn't born yet or was he born? He hadn't written yet. What were the Founding Fathers pushing back against?
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Timothy Sandifer
Well, you know, it's funny because it's true that the term socialism wasn't around. It's true Karl Marx wasn't around. But socialist ideas had been around since the days of ancient Greece.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Timothy Sandifer
You find it in the writings of Plato, for example. And the Founding Fathers were horrified by it and they thought it was very obviously ridiculous that if you took wealth from people who earned it and gave it to people who do not thinking that what you're doing is justice, what you're actually doing is committing injustice and destroying people's will to work hard and improve the world. So they ridiculed the idea. Adams and Jefferson alike and all their colleagues. What they were pushing back against in the 1770s, however, was somewhat different. Beginning in about 1764, Parliament came up with this notion that it had the authority to control the colonies, that it could legislate for the colonies, not just tax, but also impose other kinds of laws on the colonies. And to the Americans, this was crazy. They had lived for 150 years in the American colonies with the view that their laws were written by their local legislatures, by their colonial legislatures. Everybody agreed that you look up to the king. The king is kind of like what we had with our President. Today, the king was their executive branch, but their legislative branch was their local legislature. And all of a sudden, Parliament says, no, no. Parliament has, this is a, quote, supreme, absolute, unlimited authority to do everything that is not naturally in impossible, which means that they have absolute power. And the Americans said, this is a terrible idea. And they opposed it for, you know, a decade or a dozen years. And they did that through debate and political protest and legal machinations and politics, until finally it became clear that the King was siding with Parliament in that dispute. And it was that moment in the beginning, at the beginning of 1776, that the Americans finally said, fine, then we don't want to have any part of the British Empire anymore. We are abandoning our claims to the traditional rights of Englishmen in the British Constitution. And we are asserting our rights on the basis of the laws of nature and of nature's God.
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Joe Getty
What do you think would have happened if we lost the Revolutionary War?
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Timothy Sandifer
You know, I think the war was inevitable. I think a lot of people thought it was inevitable. Thomas Paine says in common sense, look, we all agree that America will be independent someday. The question, question is just when you know. So I think that it would have happened eventually, but I do think there would have been a lot of mess about it. By what, by which I mean, you know, you look at British politics today and see how they are torn between this extreme democracy on one hand and this anti democracy on the other hand. And there nobody really can definitively say what the British Constitution is because it's unwritten. And there's these bizarre traditions and hierarchies that you have to jump through. And then socialism really becomes a parasite on all of that. And I think America would have suffered a lot more as a result of those sorts of ideas. And you know, America today is really the product of two other big things, and that's the Western experience and the Civil War. And both of those would have been drastically different if the British Empire had controlled America up, you know, any longer. So it's hard to say, but I do think we'd be a. I hate to say it, more like Canada.
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Joe Getty
Wow. I really mean it when I say that if you read one book, or please read at least one book leading up to the founding or this summer about the founding proclaiming Liberty by Tim Sandifer, just because it helps you make arguments. If you end up in a backyard barbecue and somebody starts throwing around some anti American crap, you got something to say back? Because it's just way too pervasive in our society right now. And apparently comfortable to say that the founding was about racism or that the world would be better off without our push, you know, dominance and all these things and just drives me crazy, you
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Timothy Sandifer
know, Jack, I say, I must say I had a number of scores to settle in this book. But I'd been, I had been storing them away for decades whenever I'd read something about the Founding or the Declaration or something, and I was like, that's wrong. I was making a mental list. And I put that mental list into this book.
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Joe Getty
That's fantastic. That is fantastic. Well, we need more of that. God, if you, if you stood up in front of most public school history classes in this country and, and, and give your little spiel about your book, the, the teacher in the back of the room would, would be, they'd be rolling their eyes with horror at what you were saying. How crazy is that?
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah. However, I will say, when I was in school, when I was a kid in school, my teachers were already rolling their eyes in horror at the things that I said because I was already committed to freedom.
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Joe Getty
Right?
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Timothy Sandifer
And they didn't like that much. Look, so my, what I wanted to do in the book is I wanted to go through the Declaration line by line and say what all of it really means. Because, you know, we're very familiar with the opening paragraphs about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But there's the list of grievances against what Britain was doing to us. And a lot of Americans today don't know what specifically it refers to because it's written in broad general terms. So I wanted to.
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Joe Getty
Let's touch on that when we come back after the break, if we can, because I want to get into that part of the proclaiming liberty, Tim's book, because I think this is so dang important. First, I want to tell you about Incogni, which is also important if you get calls on your phone or text or emails like, who is this from? Is this real? This looks fake. Yeah, a lot of times it is fake, or it's a scam or somebody trying to just hack into your phone. Whatever it is, Incogni is a way to stop that. It works quietly in the background to wipe your personal data from people search sites. Those things scare me. Data brokers, hidden databases that you probably don't even know exist. Incogni is busy removing my name and info from hundreds of databases. And they don't stop there. They keep sending follow up requests with the law on their side saying that you got to get that stuff out of there. They can't scam you if they can't find you. Take your personal data back. With Incogni, it's it's like Incognito with all the out all the letters I n C O G N I is how it's spelled. Get 60 off the regular price when you use the code armstrong@incogni.com armstrong that's 60 off when you use the code armstrong and incogni.com armstrong incogni.com armstrong this is important stuff. Be able to argue with your college kid when they come back home or your neighbors who are socialists or whatever it is. Learn a little from Tim Sandifer in his book Proclaiming Liberty. A little more when we come back.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Timothy Sandifer
Dad?
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Jack Armstrong
Lingokids, please?
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Joe Getty
When did we become the Lingokids house?
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Jack Armstrong
No idea. Last week it was Dinosaurs. This week it's Lingokids. Lingokids because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.
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Timothy Sandifer
With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs
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Joe Getty
and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.
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Jack Armstrong
So no dinosaurs.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Your bill, ladies.
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Jack Armstrong
I got it.
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Timothy Sandifer
I got it.
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Jack Armstrong
No, I got it.
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Joe Getty
Seriously. I insist.
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Jack Armstrong
I insisted first. Don't be silly. You don't be silly.
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Joe Getty
People with the Wells Fargo Active Cash credit card prefer to pay because they earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases.
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Timothy Sandifer
Okay.
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Jack Armstrong
Rock, paper, scissors for it.
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Joe Getty
Rock, paper, scissors.
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Timothy Sandifer
Shoot.
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Jack Armstrong
No.
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Joe Getty
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Ryan Reynolds
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
summer or actually anytime in our history. But with the 250th anniversary coming up, up, the book is Proclaiming Liberty by Timothy Sandifer. Tim joins us. We're talking about the repainting of the reflecting pool today. No, no, that's not what we're talking about.
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Jack Armstrong
We're.
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Joe Getty
We're talking about his book and the founding and why it's important to understand it in a way that they don't teach you in school. Necessarily. I was looking at the dedication, though, you got for Harry Jaffa, who I'm aware of. I'm not aware of Roger Pilon.
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Timothy Sandifer
Yes, he's at the Cato Institute.
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Joe Getty
Okay, cool. Great. But then what is that foreign language thing you got underneath it?
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Timothy Sandifer
Oh, so it's a line from a play by a playwright named Terrence Ratigan. It's a play called the Browning Version, and it's a story about a teacher who's having a bad time. And during the climactic scene of the play, his student gives him a book with this line inscribed in it, which means something to the effect of God looks kindly upon a good master, and it is a reward to the teacher for all that he's done. And Jaffa and Pilon taught me so much about the Declaration and the American Founding, though I thought it was an apt quotation to use.
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Joe Getty
That's awesome. So right before we took a break, you were explaining what the Declaration of Independence meant, the part that you think most people don't get.
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah. Well, there's this long list of grievances there, and then each one is phrased in broad terms. The founders, by 1776, the founding fathers were done listing their specific objections to what Britain was doing. They had done that for a dozen years already, and nobody had listened to them. So by 1776, they're just gonna say, here's what you've been doing to Boom, boom, boom, boom. And as a result, today we look at things like, he has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good, and we don't know what laws specifically they're referring to. And so I wanted to go through the whole list and explain what each one is talking about. And there's also other language in the Declaration that has been overlooked, not only by the public, but by scholars. For example, in the very end of the Declaration, it says, these united colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states. And that phrase of right ought to be is kind of interesting. Why is that in there?
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Timothy Sandifer
It turns out that in 1766, a decade before, Parliament had passed a law called the Declaratory act, in which it said that Parliament had complete authority over the American colonies. And the phrase it used was, parliament has and of right ought to have full authority to legislate for the American colonies in all cases whatsoever. And so in the Declaration, the American Founders are slapping back at Parliament. They're saying, no, of right. We are free people, and we don't owe you any allegiance. So I wanted to go through all these little tidbits that I think are overlooked sometimes, both by scholars and by ordinary Americans who are very familiar with the philosophy. I do talk about the philosophy. I think the philosophical aspects of the Declaration are not only important, but literally true. It is a literal fact of the world that all men are created equal. It is absolutely the truth that they are endowed with inalienable rights like life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These are not just, you know, things that we've chosen to believe in this society as opposed to some other society, as many of today's relativists like to claim. And so I do want to go through all that, but I also didn't want to just be a dry philosophical book. So I also talk about all of this in the context of the friendship between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams as they were working and writing the Declaration.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, and so that's the idea that we're all personally free as opposed to we're subjects of the state, whether it's a king or a collective us, like socialism.
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah, well, I mean, we are inherently responsible for ourselves. There's nothing we can do about that fact. The existentialists back in the 1960s used to use this phrase. They used to say we are condemned to be free. Well, I wouldn't say condemned, but we definitely are inherently free because we are self responsible. Nobody else can eat for me, nobody else can breathe for me, and nobody else can think for me. And although I might might point a gun at somebody's head and force them to pay my bills, that's not a just thing to do. That's not taking responsibility for myself. And everybody has this sense of self responsibility and that means everybody has the right to make decisions for their own lives. That's what it means when we say that all people are equally free.
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Joe Getty
Hey, we're out of time, Tim and I just wanted to mention this. So George Will once called you a national treasure, which I think is absolutely true. I think that, you know, like we have a poet laureate, they should establish some sort of founding laureate and some president should make you that person to go around to universities and high schools and teach him this stuff. That's what I think we should do.
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Timothy Sandifer
I would be happy to serve.
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Joe Getty
Oh, and you'd be so good at it. The book is proclaiming Liberty. Timothy Sandifer, always happy to have you on, Tim. Thanks for your time today,
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
Mom, can I have Lingokids? That's Lingokids, please. When did we become the Lingokids house?
- [24:42]
Jack Armstrong
No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's Lingokids.
- [24:46]
Joe Getty
Why Lingokids?
- [24:47]
Jack Armstrong
Because it's the best thing ever. You can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.
- [24:52]
Timothy Sandifer
With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs
- [24:55]
Joe Getty
and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.
- [25:00]
Jack Armstrong
So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.
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Timothy Sandifer
Lingokids.
- [25:04]
Joe Getty
Everything kids love. Download it for free.
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Jack Armstrong
Summer is here, which means we all want to look and feel our best. A GLP1 may be right for you. Visit OrderlyMeds to to learn more about which GLP1 you could be eligible for. Getting started is fast, easy, and happens virtually through telemedicine from licensed professionals. Check it out for yourself. Go to orderlymeds.com podcast that's orderlymeds.com podcast taking care of yourself feels great. Compounded medications are not FDA approved. Eligibility required and determined by a licensed provider. Individual results may vary. See website for details. Wasn't that delicious? So good.
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Joe Getty
Your bill, lady.
- [25:42]
Jack Armstrong
No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I assisted first. Oh, don't be silly. You don't be silly.
- [25:49]
Joe Getty
People with the Wells Fargo Active Cash credit card prefer to pay because they earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases.
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Jack Armstrong
Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it.
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Joe Getty
Rock, paper, scissors.
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Timothy Sandifer
Shoot.
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Jack Armstrong
No.
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Joe Getty
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Ryan Reynolds
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
guys hear about this? World cup fans are taking bottles of ranch dressing home as souvenirs and the TSA had to issue a reminder. You can't pack them in your carry ons. It's tough seeing someone at security having to quickly chug a bottle of Hidden Valley. Why does everybody love ranch dressing so much? I don't think I've ever had ranch dressing, so I don't know what it tastes like. But I don't understand what the appeal is with people. My kids just love it with everything. I can't believe you've never had ranch dressing. I don't think I have. It doesn't look good to me. Anyway, I got a number of things to say, but first I want to do this. Did we win the war with Iran or is that undetermined at this point? I feel like we lost. Am I just being a negative Nelly? I was watching a Little clip of what Trump said last week about the rockets. What's wrong with them having rockets? You know, they, Israel has rockets, Saudi Arabia has rockets. Why doesn't Iran get to have rockets? That wouldn't be fair. Which to me is one of the craziest things I've ever heard a president say. I don't get it. And Marco Rubio. I was watching the clip again today. Marco Rubio was standing behind him and looked so miserable. Hearing the president do that whole moral, moral equivalence between Israel, the United States and Iran, it's just crazy. It's exactly like you got a gun who went, a guy who went on a shooting spree with a gun and you've got somebody with a, who's never committed a crime in their lives and saying, well, why does he get a gun and he doesn't? There's a reason for that. Their history, their intentions. It's crazy. Anyway, Marco Rubio said this yesterday. Some people feel like this was a tell, this particular statement. I mean, he is the Secretary of State in the Trump administration, and unless he's going to resign, he's there to carry out the president's foreign policy and to stand behind him. But I thought this was a bit of a tell yesterday. If Iran makes a decision, if its leadership makes a decision that they want to be a country instead of a revolutionary movement that exports terrorists error, they're going to have an opportunity to do incredible things in Iran. I'm not promising you that that's the choice they're going to make. I'm saying if that's the choice that they make, then there will be opportunity. That's the Secretary of State holding it out there that they might not be a country that wants to be a real country as opposed to a revolutionary country. The JD Vance Trump signal is that, oh, yeah, these are different people that, that, that's already decided. This is a new crowd. They want to be part of the, you know, the modern real world and have given up their whole revolutionary background. Marco Rubio is going with the big if Iran wants it turns out to be that. And I'm not saying they are. So I feel like that was a tell from him, but not everybody's on board. The Senate voted yesterday against this war. They voted to end the war. None of this stuff is binding, by the way. The media leaves that out all the time. There is the. Goes way back to the 70s. There's a statute or whatever it is edict that Congress can shut off these wars, but there's no teeth to it. Nobody's ever actually used it to stop a war. But it is an indication that there is some turning against the war. As the Senate passed this yesterday with the help of four Republicans, I think joined all the Democrats saying that the war's got to come to a close. Here's Representative Tim Sheehy, a Republican and a pretty maga Republican throughout the years of Montana. Clip 54 Michael I hope that Vice President Vance and Kushner and Witkoff are successful in convincing Iran to be a normal country and to open their minds and stop trying to murder their neighbors
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Jack Armstrong
and destroy the world.
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Joe Getty
But the reality is this is a murderous regime that doesn't want deal. They don't want $6 gasoline. They don't want the straits to be open. They want you and your family and all of us to be killed. They want to wipe our civilization off the map. That's their national motto. So there's at least one Republican who does not think that they have given up their old ways, that they are still a revolutionary country who wants to destroy the United States and Israel. That's what I tend to think. Also, I think Marco Rubio thinks that the same I would be happy to be wrong. I would be thrilled to be wrong and say, look what a numb nuts I am, huh? Talking out my hind end thinking I know what's going on there. Love to be wrong. And Iran turns out to now be run by people that just want to do business with the world world and be peaceful with their neighbors and not kill all the Jews and attempt to wipe out America, which they could never do. But they could wipe out Israel if they had a bomb, they certainly could. And at least the old people running, the previous people running Iran, if they had a nuclear weapon and they could get it into New York City, they absolutely would do that without hesitation. Iran getting a nuclear weapon would be one of the biggest moments, if not the biggest moment in world history. Well, at least up until they set that weapon off. Destroying Israel or blowing up Los Angeles or whatever and stopping it is very important and I'm not sure we're going to do a good job of that depending on how this war turns out. Um, I look forward to talking to Mike Lyons in about a half an hour. Um, I don't even know if he'll answer this question, but the whole did we win or lose? The Wall Street Journal's got an opinion piece out today just stating that we lost the war. Giving them all these billions of dollars, they're going to re they've still got their rocket program. They're going to rebuild their nuclear program. It's not even though we did tremendous damage to it, we did tremendous damage to lots of things in Iran. But we're giving them so much money and it looks like a free pass going forward. And Iran knows that you're never gonna put together the political will to attack us like that again, where they're gonna be screaming toward a nuclear weapon or at least enough rocket capability to overwhelm Iron Dome and Israel. And again, I would love to be wrong, but this is huge news. This is huge news. This is on the Trump side of things on this war, that maybe he and JD are right and us naysayers are wrong. Here's Trey Angst on Fox today. Clip 45 While the timeline is unclear, President Trump says there is no rush getting these inspectors into the country, but told Fox News that US Inspectors will join the IAEA when they ultimately go into Iran, Iran to locate this highly enriched uranium that we know is buried deep underground. The president describing this as a mountain that collapsed on this material after those B2 bombers targeted Iran during Operation Midnight Hammer. He that left out the first part where he says the head of the iaea, that's the inspection outfit that looks for weapons of mass destruction like nuclear weapons. You remember the Iraq war? That was the IAEA that got kicked out of Iraq and what got the war going. The IAEA guy announced yesterday that yes, there is an agreement. It is in the agreement that we're going into Iran soon and starting to look for the nuclear material and verify the fact that they're not rebuilding a nuclear weapon. I thought JD Was just hoping or making that up because Iran came out immediately after J.D. vance said that over the weekend and said, no, we didn't agree to that, that we're not allowing any inspectors in. The IAEA says, yep, that's in the agreement and we'll be there. Why Iran's playing that game, I have no idea. If they just want to cause troubles, which is what they like to do, if they want to appear to the hardcore Muslim fanatics in their country like they haven't given in to the big bad Satan of the United States and done our bidding, I don't know what their goal is, what with lying about that. But it appears that the agreement does actually include inspectors getting in there very soon. I still think it's a bad idea to give them the billions of dollars before we confirm that the nuclear weapons program is stopped, but that that discussion is ongoing. I'm still pretty negative on the whole thing. Big news though, that the IAEA is actually going to get in there and on the ground soon, including according to Trump, some American inspectors in there. Because sometimes you can't trust going back to Iraq, you can't trust the iaea. A bunch of foreigners are on the take corrupt organization like so many of your worldwide corrupt organizations like the un like the WHO around Covid, like lots of them. But having some Americans in there will be good. Later we'll have to talk about what a big deal is that three socialists won against mainstream Democrats in New York last night. What does that mean for our politics nationwide or our the movement of socialism on the march all across the country? Well, we'll touch on that at some point. Some lighter fare that I want to talk about got into this discussion. Does Walking Faster Burn More Calories? Was I misled by chat GPT on my nightly walks where I walk really really fast and look kind of goofy to try to burn more calories? According to Chad GPT, it doesn't help to walk faster, but somebody said gro said it does. We have an argument between the chat bots. I think you were misled. It doesn't make sense, right? That doesn't make any sense at all. You gotta burn more calories to walk faster. Anyway, that and other things on the way.
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Jack Armstrong
Stay here Armstrong and Getty. With my mom and dad living in Orange county, when we bring my five and seven year old to visit, we are sometimes in for a two hour drive that could feel like a ten.
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Joe Getty
Oh, as an avid camper, I know all about this. We'll pack up the RV and know this is either going to be the trip of a lifetime or a complete disaster.
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Jack Armstrong
Which is why we load up the iPads with Lingokids before we even pull out of the driveway.
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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
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Ryan Reynolds
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Timothy Sandifer
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Joe Getty
Harmony I've been seeing a lot of reporting on the NBA draft last night, various bad teams that drafted high picks in the first round, and reminder that the MVP of the NBA championship this year was the 33rd pick in the draft, second round Jalen Brunson. So don't necessarily Expect to have everything turn around because you gotta high pick. It doesn't always work that way. Here's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on the news from last night on CBS. Oh, yay. Oh, yay.
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Timothy Sandifer
That's Joseph McGrail Bada, an AC cleaner and competitive loudmouth, so to speak, from Australia, who recently shouted the word now at 122.4 decibels, which is in the range of a chain, chainsaw or jet engine. And Guinness says it's a new world record.
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Joe Getty
We have a new world's loudest man. He's the loudest man who's ever lived, they think. Can you play the beginning again? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Timothy Sandifer
That's Joseph.
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Joe Getty
Obviously, that's loud. It's impossible to know unless you're standing next to him that's louder than the average loud person. Joe always says I'm the loudest person, person on earth. Like whenever we have to do anything with microphones, to have my microphone like half what his is, so that we are even, because I'm very, very loud. I don't know if I'm louder than that guy. I might have to get a decibel meter and test myself. Maybe that's my. Maybe that's my future. Being a really loud person who goes around to county fairs and talks really loud or yells something for the kids. That'd be fun. So I'm walking the other night. Maybe you heard this the other day. Walking the other night with my son. And I go. I walk mile and a half, two miles every night. Make sure I do it every single night. And then I also go to the gym and do other stuff, ride my bike, whatever. But I make sure at least I do this no matter how busy I am. And my son wanted to go with me the other night, which is awesome because we get to talk. And I walk really fast. I walk really fast everywhere. I walk really fast down the hallway to get coffee. I walk. I'm just a fast walker. My kids complained about all the time. Time, dad, why are we running? And I told him, at least on our walk, I said, well, I'm trying to burn more calories because, you know, the whole point of the walk is exercise. And he said, I don't think you burn more calories walking faster. And I thought, that makes no sense whatsoever. I said, that can't be true. So I aied it. I don't remember which chatbot I used to. I think it was Claude, actually. So I said, during my nightly walk, I walk really Fast with the understanding that will burn more calories. But if I walked farther, slower, would that burn more calories or less calories, or would it be a wash? I was wondering if it'd be better off going further rather than walking faster. The short version is the total distance is a much bigger driver than the speed that you walk. If I want to go out there and walk and burn the most calories, I should go further at a slower pace. The distance is what matters the most. You do burn a few more calories. Walking faster, but not much distance would be a much bigger deal than the speed. The calories you burn walking are mostly a function of how far you move your body weight, not how fast. The idea being I'm £188 moving £188. A mile and a half takes the same amount of energy at this speed or that speed is what Claude claims, which still doesn't quite make sense to me because at the end of it, walking really fast, I'm sweating and breathing hard. On days where I walk slower. Like, if I'm talking on the phone and not paying attention or something like that, I'm not breathing hard or sweating. And isn't by definition, if you're breathing hard and sweating meaning you're burning more calories, doesn't that just intuitively make sense?
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Anyway, so I had that result, and this might be more about. Oh, darn it. I didn't. Did I? Screen capture.
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Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
This might be more about our chat bots than about the science of burning calories. Somebody said Grok gave a different answer. They texted me yesterday. Grok gave me a different answer regarding calories and walking speed. Grog said faster pace does burn more than slower paced. Although I didn't deny that it burned more. It just said it's not significant enough to really make a difference. Walking real fast. I don't know. I don't know. Need a doctor or a physicist or the world's loudest guy to weigh in on this, on what burns the most calories. I did. I need to do more cardio. Everybody should do more cardio because it's really, really good for your heart. And is that one of the things you need to do for your diabetes? Yeah, it works very well for me. Brings down the blood sugar. Really?
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Timothy Sandifer
Oh, yeah.
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Joe Getty
You test your blood sugar how? Well, I have a meter actually on my arm that I can look at, so I have my cell phone today. It actually tells me what my blood reading is. Is that thing poking to you with a needle all the time? Yeah, it's just one time. I put shit in the skin one time, and it just goes for about two weeks. You're wearing something with a needle in your skin? Yeah, yeah, in my elbow. Does it hurt? No, not at all. I don't even notice it. You got a needle jammed in your elbow. Yeah. That sounds awful. It's just a little. Little tiny thing goes right in. And it's there all the time. It's there all the time. Okay. Anyway, so you notice when you exercise, your blood sugar goes down.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah.
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Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
We all should have one of those. What. What exercise are you doing? I'll do recumbent bike. I'll do treadmill. I don't know what that word is. What the hell does that mean? You don't know what a recumbent bike is? No. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever heard that word in my life. It's just a bike. You sit. You just sit down and then pedal. It's just a bike. Sounds like a bike.
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Timothy Sandifer
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
I mean, where'd you come up with this fancy recumbent word? Sit down, bike. That's all it is. I think somebody charged you more for putting the word recumbent in front of bike. Oh, very common word.
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Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
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Joe Getty
I've never heard it before. Well, it's. So it's a stationary bike. Yeah, that's all it is, is okay. But you sit down.
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Jack Armstrong
That's all.
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Joe Getty
Okay, as opposed to what? As opposed to, like, a treadmill where you're, you know, walking and, you know, standing upright? Do you have to have your pinky up in the air when you're sitting on a recumbent bike? No, it's nice because fancy words. I can look at my phone, watch tv, you know, watch a show or something like that. Huh. Once you get in. I was trying to convince my son of this, and he's been doing better. I talk about this all the time. Apologize if you heard me say before. I didn't learn it until I was, I don't know, 10 years ago, but once it got into my head and I recognized it. Good habits are just as hard to break as bad habits. Habits are really hard to break. We all know habits are hard to break, but we mostly are thinking about bad habits, right? Chewing our fingernails or grabbing M and Ms. Out of the dish on the corner or whatever your bad habit is. Good habits are really, really hard to break, too. Do you just have to establish them? And, like, I'm to the point now with practicing musical instruments and exercising, for instance, so you use two good things. I also stopped chewing my fingernails, thank God. But it is really difficult for me to go to bed without having exercised or practicing a musical instrument because I have it as a habit. And it just drives me nuts. It just irks me if I don't do it. It like I'm trying to start that habit with writing. I don't have the habit of writing. I'm trying to get into the habit of writing 350 words every day at least to get. And so hopefully that will become a habit, a habit that is hard to quit, that I just need to do every day and do automatically. Right now, it's a ponderous chore. Call it recumbent if you want. That I find very difficult to do. I have to make myself do it. But if I can make myself do it for. There is actually a number, they say how many times, how long you have to do something before it comes a habit. Six weeks or something like that. I'll look that up. There's a known number for how long you have to do something for it to become a habit. But good habits are as hard to break as bad habits. I'm trying to convince my son of that. If we go out and walk every single night, pretty soon it'll just do it automatically. He won't be able to not do it. It'll feel weird anyway. That's one of the best lessons I ever learned in my life. We got a lot more coming up. We'll talk to Mike Lyons about did we win the war or not? Not. Maybe it's too early to tell. If you missed the segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Mom, can I have Lingokids? That's Lingo Kids, please. When did we become the Lingokids house?
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Jack Armstrong
No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs this weekend.
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Joe Getty
Why Lingo Kids?
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Jack Armstrong
Because it's the best thing ever. You can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.
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Timothy Sandifer
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Joe Getty
and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.
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Jack Armstrong
So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.
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Timothy Sandifer
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Joe Getty
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