Cheese on My Nothing Burger

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Cheese on My Nothing Burger

Date: May 21, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack and Joe dig deep into the current climate of conspiracy theories—particularly those tying antisemitism, right-wing influencer culture, and political paranoia into a "nothing burger with cheese." They explore how wild ideas gain traction, why party "autopsies" fail, what’s up with Kamala Harris’s communication style, and today’s grifter politics on both sides. The conversation bounces between serious analysis and their trademark sarcastic wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The New Conspiracy Web: Antisemitism, Internet "Influencers," and Trolling

(02:46–15:15)

• Introduction to Outlandish Trends:
  The hosts react to interviews and social media conversations where public figures (like Candace Owens and Russell Brand) connect disparate conspiracy theories—often with antisemitic undertones.

  • Jack: "So we've been trying to wrap our head around the whole anti-Israel Jew thing and how it fits in with a certain brand of right wing..." (03:46)
  • Joe: "It's the parlor game. They're really, really good at... they can construct these nonexistent relationships..." (06:45)

• How Does This Stuff Stick?
  They break down the psychological appeal—how people are drawn to "alternative explanations," no matter how absurd.

  • Joe: "That's the appeal of it... for not being fooled by the powers that be, even though their alternate explanation was hilariously, ridiculously implausible." (07:46)

• Examples of Fabricated Connections:
  The “Bridget Macron’s penis” conspiracy cited as an example of how arbitrary links are made in these circles.

  • Jack: "I don't know if you can go any further than the Jews control Bridget McCrone's penis." (08:22)
  • Joe (sarcastically): "Their alternate explanation was hilariously, ridiculously implausible. That's the appeal of it." (07:46)

• Grifters vs. the Gullible:
  The distinction between those spinning conspiracies for profit and their credulous followers.

  • Joe: "The existence of grifters and con men never bothers me that much... What bothers me is how easily people are pulled along in their wake." (12:50)
  • Jack: "It's getting people killed, this stuff." (13:36)

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2. Party "Autopsies" and Willful Blindness

(18:15–35:10)

• DNC Autopsy Report Discussion:
  The Democratic Party’s post-2024 loss “autopsy report” is criticized for omissions and ineffectiveness.

  • Jack: "I can't quite wrap my head around it... I haven't read the whole 192 pages. Or any of them actually." (18:15)
  • Joe (mocking): "So what do you need to know about this so called autopsy? ...You don't talk about Joe Biden's mental fitness and that debate." (27:50)

• Critical Omissions:
  The report skips key issues: Biden's mental state, the lack of a primary challenge to Kamala Harris, and obvious campaign mistakes.

  • Jack: "Why. Here's an autopsy on why the marriage fell apart on. We are not going to address, though, your drinking or infidelity." (28:42)

• Why Honest Self-Assessment Fails:
  The pressure to make things public undermines candor, and parties are incentivized to protect their own.

  • Joe: "If you know it's going to come out, you're not going to do a good autopsy. You're only going to do a good, thorough, really speaking truth to your own power if it can be private." (30:12)
  • Jack (sarcastically): "You're not going to say we all suck and and tried to hide something that everybody in the world could see... We should be all fired from our jobs. But we can't say that out loud because we kind of like our jobs." (29:00)

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3. Kamala Harris: Communication, Perception, and Marxist Phrases

(31:09–35:09)

• On Harris’s Unusual Communication:
  The hosts joke about Harris’s well-known tendency toward circular or vague language and question if it stems from lack of intelligence or something deeper.

  • Joe: "Every time I hear her voice, my IQ drops... She's not only got none, she sucks it out of..." (31:33)
  • Jack: "If she is smart and she answers questions the way she does... there's something wrong with your brain." (37:58)

• “Unburdened by what has been” – A Marxist Echo?
  After noticing Harris’s frequent use of the phrase, the hosts highlight its roots in Marxist theory.

  • Jack: "I was not aware until I watched a James Lindsay video... that that is a... Marxist phrase..." (33:09)
  • Joe: "It's veiled enough that it sounds vaguely futuristic and hopeful. The actual Marxists are like, wow, she's with us." (34:34)

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4. Politics of Grift: The Trump Phone & New Era of Shamelessness

(41:27–43:31)

• The Phantom “Trump Phone”
  Exposes the Trump family’s promoted “made in USA” phone—none delivered, $59 million in deposits unreturned, and the “made in USA” claim quietly dropped.

  • Jack: "Eric and Don Jr. Pitched this phone. Sold $59 million worth... not a single phone has shown up.... The whole made-in-the-USA... Now it says made with USA values. Whatever the hell that means." (42:32)
  • Joe: "Well, it means all the marketing was fraudulent." (43:09)

• Both Sides Guilty:
  Comparison to the Biden family’s questionable business dealings, concluding we’re in an “era of no limits” for political grifting.

  • Jack: "We are in a new world of like there are no limits presidency... what the Biden family was doing. And then we're just continuing it." (43:15)

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5. Political Parties: Do They Even Exist?

(35:31–36:47)

• Are parties just empty vessels?
  Consensus that candidates define the party platform rather than the other way around.
  • Jack: "There are no parties. There's somebody who becomes the leader, and then you just adopt their... We're for tariffs now. That is what this party believes, even though we've always been against tariffs." (36:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On conspiracy webs:
  Joe Getty (06:45): “They're playing a parlor game that they're really, really good at, where they can construct these, you know, non existent relationships or wildly exaggerate coincidence or whatever..."
• On information bubbles:
  Jack Armstrong (13:10): "Maybe it's extra insulting to us because we're in this world... seeing people get millions of followers over just crap. And... it's getting people killed this stuff."
• On the DNC report:
  Jack Armstrong (27:50): “You don't talk about Joe Biden's mental fitness and that debate. Great. Also, there's nothing in there about the decision to just anoint Kamala Harris..."
• On party self-reflection:
  Joe Getty (30:12): "You're only going to do a good, thorough, really speaking truth to your own power if it can be private."
• On Kamala Harris and “unburdened by what has been”:
  Jack Armstrong (33:09): “I can't believe you'd go out there and state word for word one of the most famous Marxist phrases that exists in all of writing.”
• On fraudulent marketing:
  Joe Getty (43:09): “Well, it means all the marketing was fraudulent. Yeah, that's just..."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Conspiratorial Trends & Antisemitism: (02:46–15:15)
• The DNC Autopsy Report Discussion: (18:15–35:10)
• Kamala Harris, Marxist Phrases, and Communication: (31:09–35:10)
• Trump Phone & Political Grifting: (41:27–43:31)
• The (Non-)Existence of Political Parties: (35:31–36:47)
• Light Moments & Final Thoughts: (44:47–45:54)

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Final Thoughts (44:47–45:54)

• Michael (tech director): Plans lunch inspired by the show—rotisserie chicken, pasta, French bread.
• Jack: Notes young and poor Americans eat out/do delivery the most, despite it being the least economical.
• Joe: Jokes about spending on delivery: “It's indefensible...I’m spectacularly wealthy, not like the young, the young and poor.”

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Tone & Style

• The episode is a blend of humor, sarcasm, skepticism, and moments of genuine exasperation at current events.
• The hosts bounce between satirical takes and pointed social commentary, often highlighting the absurdities in both fringe internet culture and mainstream politics.

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For anyone who missed the episode, this summary offers a comprehensive map of Armstrong and Getty’s entertaining (and alarming) takedown of today's political and social nonsense—showing how nothing burgers these days seem to come with extra cheese.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and G.

[Joe Getty]

How would you describe the rest of your life in five words?

[Jack Armstrong]

My family, my friends.

Fun.

That's good. God bless you, Stephen Colbert. You are known Stephen Colbert, everybody. So Stephen Colbert took the Stephen Colbert quote quiz, which if you've never seen that, is really good. He's got like five questions that he asks a lot of big celebrities and I've seen it with Springsteen, Elton John, the actors. Pete Townsend the other day from the who. Just, I mean it's always really, really like a glimpse into these people's views of the world that you don't normally get in interviews.

[Joe Getty]

Now that's a variation on a very famous set of questions. I remember they used to do it inside the Actors Studio. I can't remember the name of the guy who came up with it, but yeah, yeah, I love that sort of thing. I love a good lightning round.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we've been trying to wrap our head around the whole anti Israel Jew thing and how it fits in with a certain brand of right wing. I don't even know if that's the right term. Politics.

[Joe Getty]

Right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is the right term with Tucker and Candace and that crowd?

[Joe Getty]

It's good enough shorthand so you know, you're talking about them and not wild eyed college progressives.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess so. So you got that Massey guy who lost in Kentucky. He went big on Epstein. So Trump turned on him, endorsed his opponent and Massey got voted out of the House of Representatives the other day. And Massey gets up there and said, I tried to concede to my opponent, but he was in Tel Aviv. The crowd cheers because, you know, obviously he's a tool of the Jew. Jews.

[Joe Getty]

It's the Jews. The Jews.

[Jack Armstrong]

And former congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted out, I am so proud and thankful to have served with Thomas Massie. Releasing the Epstein Epstein files was our demise. But it was worth every single bit because now everyone knows the truth. You are ruled by the Epstein class that cares nothing about you. This term, the Epstein class has become like shorthand for something. Not exactly sure what it is, but it's always tied into the Jews.

[Joe Getty]

So originally rich evil Jews like Epstein.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was. Originally though, it was just sex trafficking. Now it's become a Jew thing more than it seems to be a sex trafficking thing or both. Anyway, so then you got Russell Brand. Do you know his act? He was a comedian married to Katy Perry. Then he decided, you know what, you know where the money is. Being one of these Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Types. So he has Candace Owens on his show and asked the question, do you think Israel is fundamental even in issues as seemingly diffuse. Div. Diffuse different as Bridget McCrone's true identity and Charlie Kirk's murder? Candace says yes, I think it's all connected. She's the one claiming Bridget McCrone actually is a dude. Has a penis and testicles. Look, you can see here and see the way her dress moves. That's a penis. And, and she believes Charlie Kirk was killed by the Jews orchestrated by Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica Kirk. Anyway, do you think Israel is fundamental? Even issues like Bridget McCrone's Identity and Charlie Kirk's murder, Candace Owens? Yes, I think it's all connected. And then they go on to talk about it. I watched it yesterday. What the hell is going on here?

[Joe Getty]

Unplug the Internet immediately.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is going on here? The Jews are behind Bridget McCrones being a dude. Yeah, the Jews are behind that. Explain that theory to me. That makes more sense. I mean Charlie Kirk's murder makes more sense and it makes no sense. Then the whole Bridget McCrone's a dude because of Israel.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's, that's the parlor game. Yeah, they're playing a parlor game that they're really, really good at where they can construct these, you know, non existent relationships or wildly exaggerate coincidence or whatever in a way that the easily are led.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, but do you know what's going on? What? How did the Israelis get a man pretending to be a woman married to Macron? And so she can. And the reason she's covering the fact

[Joe Getty]

that she's a dude is that's the game. That's exactly the game. And you know, filling in that blank is exactly what they do. And the particular thing that they went with doesn't matter because it's all fictional.

[Jack Armstrong]

He asked that question. Russell Brand asked that question. Candace Owens completely straight faced in a serious tone and absolutely they're connected. What are you crazy people talking about? And you people who listen to it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

I know. I told you a few weeks ago how disturbing it was for me. Some good guys, guys I liked, working class guys were completely swept up in the, the, the pleasure you get from. Yeah, there's something not quite right there. There is definitely something going on. And you could tell they were very, very pleased with themselves for not being fooled by the powers that be. Even though their alternate explanation was hilariously, ridiculously implausible. That's the appeal of it. I, I hate it. But there it is. Unplug the Internet.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if you can go any further than the Jews control Bridget McCrone's penis. I don't know what the next step

[Joe Getty]

is, how far their, their reach goes. Jack, you know, on this topic, Michael, hit me with 60, would you? This Brooke Taylor on a special report.

A Democratic front runner in a Texas congressional runoff is now facing backlash over anti Semitic remarks. Maureen Galindo, a sex therapist and housing activist, is running for a seat in the newly redrawn 35th congressional district. Galindo posted on Instagram last week saying she turned an ICE detention center into a, quote, prison for American Zionists and called Zionist pedophiles. That post is still up next. Clip MICHAEL When I say that I want billionaire Zionists in prison, that does not mean I want Jews in internment camps. So why am I getting a whole bunch of death threats and MAGA insult?

Yeah. So this half wit who is leading in the runoff, to the credit of the Democratic Party, everybody has disavowed her, says no, she's way too far. If she wins, I won't campaign with her. She shouldn't be in the Congress. This is ugly and stupid, but yeah, that sort of person is not only out there, but she's leading, at least among the fairly hardcore crew that tends to vote in primaries.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess I didn't catch how much the whole Jews run the world pedophile ring had come together as a singular thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, and again, they build these false webs of connection however they need to. They're very clever about it. It's their hobby and it's, they're making a fabulous living at it. But yeah, if I bothered, I could do it too. I just don't bother because it's ugly and stupid. But yeah, you could connect anything, as you just illustrated with the Mrs. McCrone's penis illustration. I mean, it's absurd, but let's just pick something at random. JEFF Bezos Super Yacht I guarantee you I could come up with the top of my mind as I'm looking at headlines. I guarantee you I could come up with a proof that the sale of that super yacht to Bezos was engineered by the Jews for the purpose of guess who's the first mate on Bezos yacht. The cousin of BB Netanyahu's hairdresser's gardener and the credulous get pulled along and

[Jack Armstrong]

where does he store his yacht? This is right name the Marina. Marina is owned by who? A conglomerate that is made up of

[Joe Getty]

who's on the board of directors. Yes, yes, Former member of the idf.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly, sir.

[Joe Getty]

It's not about yachts, all right? That's not the point we're trying to make.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, Tucker does that all day long. And it's like, okay, I start to space out again. Where. Where are we again on the. That's a. That's a good example you just had there. The. The people who own the doc, who's on the board of directors, Former IDF

[Joe Getty]

member, the wife of Ryan.

[Jack Armstrong]

So then what have you proved? I mean, come on.

[Joe Getty]

I know, I know. I actually had. I read one person who went through one of those things was a Candace Owens things, but went through each one of those alleged pieces of evidence and how utterly ridiculous and meaningless they were and cherry picked in their significance. Grossly exaggerated. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. The gross exaggeration of the significance is really the thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where did Ed get his degree from? Anaheim University. Who was founded by. In. In 1830. By who? Dr. John so.

[Joe Getty]

And so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who was what, a husband of. I mean, it's always like that. It's like, what the hell?

[Joe Getty]

Or sometimes it's just fictional, these relationships. Yeah, yeah. Again, the existence of grifters and con men never bothers me that much. I've accepted that there are evil people on earth long ago. What bothers me is how easily people are pulled along in their wake.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe it's extra insulting to us because we're in this world, we're on radio and, you know, social media and all that sort of stuff, and seeing people get millions of followers over just crap. And I don't care if it's crap. If it's, you know, dumb entertainment, fine. It's sometimes surprising to me that people can become millionaires over what seems like dumb entertainment, but it's getting people killed, this stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's gonna get more people killed.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes, it is. And it tends to blind people to the real threats, you know, that they ought to be worried about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yep. That's a good one. That's a good one. You can't get people worked out about a debt or debt. If it's. If you're worried that Bridget McCrone is a dude because of the Jews.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, Michael, you know, if only 1% of the population. The US has like 330 million people. That's like 3 million people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Just cater to those 3 million. That's a lot of money.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you go with all of that, you know, the English speaking world or the Western world or whatever you want to do, you can get you can get many millions of people that believe this sort of crap. I might have to listen to that interview. I need a better understanding of why Bridget Macron having a penis advantaged the Jews somehow.

[Joe Getty]

Again, the particulars will not bring you any insights.

[Jack Armstrong]

Doesn't have to be.

[Joe Getty]

They make up. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. It just sounds like a plausible and insidious connection. And that's enough for people because they then feel like they're not fooling me. I'm on to them, which is very satisfying to people in a big, giant, confusing world that's changing constantly. Feeling like you have a grip on the thread of truth really comforting to people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Especially if your own personal life is kind of spinning out of control and you. You can't get it righted. You can't write that ship. You get into this stuff or just disappointing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

you're into politics, you might be aware that the DNC autopsy report is out and I can't quite wrap my head around it. Just taking in the commentary. I haven't read the whole 192 pages. Or any of them actually.

[Joe Getty]

We'll get to work, you lazy bastard.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we'll, we'll, we'll tackle that story here in about 10 minutes or so.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm jumping on the five takeaways type coverage because I like a nice listicle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, here's a little this, that and the other for you Iranians. Or do you say Iranians are enduring the longest and most intense Internet blackout in history, which is compounding the heck out of the economic crisis that sparked the nationwide protests in December. Remember that got them all machine gunned in the streets. What number have we settled on now? 42,000.

[Jack Armstrong]

42,000 is what people have been going with.

[Joe Getty]

They slaughtered 42,000 of their citizens, so trust me, they don't care whether they're hurting economically. But for nearly three months now, businesses have been disconnected from clients and suppliers. Merchants have struggled to work with law enforcement, long standing international business partners. Many businesses have closed, hurling more Iranians into unemployment. Their Internet is shut off.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't heard the authorities, so I didn't realize. This is the longest Internet shut off in world history. For, for a real population, that's something I haven't heard any regular on the street Iranians complaining about this war. And I gotta believe if they existed they'd be being pumped up by the media. My sense is that these people, you know, their shops are closed and they can't do business or waiting in line for gas and they're still. Yeah, but this is kind of the opposite of what we're doing here in the United States where we can't handle the pain or not willing to put up with the pain. They're willing to put up with the pain if it leads to a better government.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. I have seen a few of those, but not many. Interestingly, that's exactly what they're saying in Cuba right now. They're saying, hey look, all this, the sanctions and embargo and blocking the oil from Venezuela and all just carry it through and get rid of the communists. Please don't put us through all this pain unless it's leading somewhere. Fair enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

If it became a functioning free market democracy, Cuba would make so much money.

[Joe Getty]

Oh. The standard of living would quadruple in six months. Yeah, yeah. Another story. Just do we have time for this? SpaceX has made their initial public offering. Filing their IPO, filing all the different statistics and facts and the rest of it, it's losing money right now mostly because it's, it's combined SpaceX and Starlink and also the AI XAI and they're burning up massive amounts of cash building out large data centers and it's, it's in super cutting edge tech business. The idea that yeah, they lost money this quarter, they're a crappy investment is just, it's just not true. No, we don't really have time to get into the details but it's a complex business.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, but that's like what I was talking about earlier about. Because we played all the Jeff Bezos clips today. I remember hearing about that amp about that, about Amazon Forever. Still haven't turned a business. Ha ha. Clearly a failure. Bezos is off it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My favorite part was about Elon's pay for SpaceX. He, I think his salary is $52,000 a year, which is okay in Texas, but not great. But he's getting paid mostly in shares, including super voting powerful shares. And if indeed the company establishes, quote, a permanent human colony on Mars with at least 1 million human inhabitants and hits a series of other market cap goals, then he he gets A I think $7.5 trillion or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's not gonna happen in his lifetime. A million people on

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

All right, so I think I've wrapped my head around partially this story and part part of my guessing on this goes to the a Republican autopsy back in the day after Mitt Romney lost and the way political parties work and the way people tend to cover their asses and all this different sort of stuff and blame others and all kinds of different things. So it sounds to me. So I was just watching during commercial break. I was just watching the guy from cnn. What is his name? Edward Isaac Dover. He's senior reporter of cnn. He's the guy, the guy that this whole thing has been released to. And then everything's coming out of him. So the he had been pressuring the Democratic National Committee to release the autopsy report that they started a year ago. They had been saying, no, it's not ready. He had been continuing to pressure him for some reason. They felt the pressure, I guess from donors or voters or whatever to the extent that they decided to release the 192 pages to him. Now a lot of the criticism is there's all kinds of misspelling and facts that are wrong. And the guy who was running the autopsy said, yeah, that's because it was not ready. That's what I've been trying to tell you. So, yeah, there are misspellings and things missing. It was not ready. And then you told me, you've got to release it. You're stalling. You're trying to hide it. No, it's not ready to go yet. Then they release it and it's got all these misspellings and he gets beat up for. You can't even spell the words right.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's what I told you. We weren't done yet. Which.

[Joe Getty]

Right. No source materials and that sort of thing. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's kind of interesting on its own. But the lead reporter who has received this and actually read the 192 pages says now whether or not they were going to Ever get around to this stuff? I don't know, but a number of things missing from the report. The autopsy. This is the autopsy of how the Democrats lost to Donald Trump, which obviously is an amazing event in the history of the United States. Given where Donald Trump was after January 6th and the impeachments and all the different sorts of things and his disapproval ratings, everything. The fact that they lost to Donald Trump. Probably a pretty good idea to take a long look at yourself and say how in the world did we lose to Donald Trump? Trump and things left out of the autopsy. They're going to claim they weren't done yet. But how did you not start here? Any reference to Joe Biden's mental fitness and that debate.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Do you need to know any more than that about the so called autopsy of the 2024 election? You don't talk about Joe Biden's mental fitness and that debate. Great. Also, there's nothing in there about the decision to just anoint Kamala Harris as opposed to have some sort of contest that's left out. Okay, so. So what do you need to know about this so called autopsy?

[Joe Getty]

You know, if I was like a Democratic party heavyweight, I'm sure there's some decent analysis. I saw one phrase about, you know, after Obama's win, we took it for granted and we failed to invest in state and local politicians and, and helping grow curves and stuff like that. Some nice inside baseball stuff. But in terms of headlines, no. If they ignored that stuff. Please stop.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't waste my time. Why. Here's an autopsy on why the marriage fell apart on. We are not going to address though your drinking or infidelity.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But other than that, we'll get down to. Yeah, well, that was stupid.

[Joe Getty]

Ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's hilarious. And for kind of obvious reasons, there's just way too many of the most important people in the entire party. I mean, you'd have to fire the most the heavyweights of the party when you're not going to do that. You are the party. You're putting out a report about yourself. So you're not going to say we all suck and and tried to hide something that everybody in the world could see. And in retrospect, it's stupid and we should be all fired from our jobs. But we can't say that out loud because we kind of like our jobs.

[Joe Getty]

We're so bubbled. We didn't realize everybody already knew he was senile. Damn. You know, back. With all due respect, sir, getting back to the marital Metaphor. If you were, like, serious about saving your marriage and went to good counseling, not crappy, and, you know, typed your innermost thoughts and feelings into Claude and got the report back and blah, blah, blah, you wouldn't necessarily want that released to the public. Yeah, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why?

[Joe Getty]

Right. And as the Democratic Party is a private enterprise, you know, they.

[Jack Armstrong]

They.

[Joe Getty]

There's no reason they have to release this stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, absolutely not. And actually, if you know it's going to come out, you're not going to do a good autopsy. You're only going to do a good, thorough, really speaking truth to your own power if it can be private.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but the fact that it left out what it left out, I mean, that's. Throw your head back and laugh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it definitely is. Some of the stuff that was in there, it's, you know, I think it's pretty interesting and obvious that you couldn't run. The Democratic Party ran on just, we're against Trump and they needed more of a vote for us as opposed to against him message, which I just think is obvious. Politics 101.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. There is something in there about how Trump was running against Kamala's transgender operations. Sex change operations for crazy inmates paid for by taxpayers.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's for. They. Them were for you.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. And they said, look, she can either change her position on this or there's nothing we can do because this is a slam dunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right.

[Joe Getty]

So you had a stupid candidate with stupid positions. It is time for us to do

what we have been doing. And that time is every day.

Oh, every time I hear her voice, my IQ drops. It just. It's weird. She's like a black hole of intelligence. She's not only got none, she sucks it out of.

[Jack Armstrong]

You see, she is a black hole. Actually sucks the intelligence out of your brain.

[Joe Getty]

It's really. It's. It's horrifying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, funny you bring that up. I was watching. How did they get on this topic the other day? Mark Halpern's TV show that I watch every. I call it a TV show. It's on YouTube or 800 other platforms that I watch every afternoon. And he had a couple people on there. He has Republican and Democratic strategist, and they were talking about Kamala Harris and how she is not dumb. And. And Mark Halperin said, look, I know that a lot of people don't want to believe this, but I've spent a lot of time with her. She is not dumb. She's actually very smart and very knowledgeable. Why she can't show that in a sit down interview or whatever. Why she can't get any points out of her mouth without getting sidetracked, I don't know. But she's smart. And the other Democrat on there said, yeah, I. He said she's terrible at. He was, he was against her running again. She can't get a thought out of her head. She just goes, caveat, caveat, caveat. Can't get to subject predicate. Remember when I used to yell that all the time? Subject, predicate, subject predicate. Just do it.

[Joe Getty]

Simple, a declarative sentence. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he said, she's smart. I've spent many hours with her on planes, flying. She's very smart. But she just can't get a sentence out of her head in an interview. So I don't know. I'm gonna take their word for it, it that she's not an idiot. I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I'll take the word of personal friends who've worked for who say that she is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Regardless of that, I had another point to make about Kamala Harris and the debate and being an idiot and I don't know, it'll float back into my head, get them old running against Trump and bad candidates and oh, oh, oh. I don't know if we have any of the. Many, many, many times she used the phrase we picture what is unburdened by what has been. I was not aware until I watched a James Lindsay video on YouTube the other day that that is a going way back to Foucault Marxist thing, that it's like the title of books unburdened by what has been Marxist phrase. I can't believe either she knew that or didn't know that. I don't know, but I can't believe you'd go out there and state word for word one of the most famous Marxist phrases that exists in all of writing. Unburdened by what has been. That's the whole French Revolution, we're gonna start at year zero, tear everything down thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why did she say that all the

[Joe Getty]

time

by what has been?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's like going around calling people comrade and trying to hide the fact that you're a communist. No, it's. It's once removed, though.

[Joe Getty]

It's shaded and it's veiled enough that it sounds vaguely futuristic and hopeful. The actual Marxists are like, wow, she's with us. And you know, the soft heads, like I said, find it vaguely, you know, yeah, yeah, it's all about the future or something.

Something that can be unburdened by what has been.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

First few words edited out of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, keep that in mind the next time you hear anybody thrown around the unburdened by what has been, they are either a Marxist or under the influence of Marxist, because that is. That is where that comes from.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that is something. Well, so much for the autopsy. Hilarious. I don't. I don't think those things ever do anything good. It seems like an academic exercise of spinning your wheels or trying to satisfy donors. Maybe we're taking a good hard look at this. So continue to donate to us because,

[Joe Getty]

as you can see, we've got a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I feel like the one that they did on Mitt Romney didn't do any good either.

[Joe Getty]

Right. If political parties were what political parties have always been, in that you as the candidate, reflect this, the platform of the party, and you're chosen by the party, then I think this would make sense. But in the modern era, you crank out this report and then some rock star governor comes along or reality show God developer or whatever, and he says, no, the party's this. And this is what we believe now, and this is how we're going to campaign. And that's what you do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's what. Sarah Isger of the Dispatch is a big believer in that. And it drives her crazy that people keep talking about political parties like they exist. No.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. We. We choose a nominee, and then our party believes whatever that guy believes. Or woman. In theory, a woman could be president. I find that hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the United States, I guess it's possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clearly, that is what happens. Clearly that is what happens.

[Joe Getty]

There's.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's. There are no parties. There's somebody who becomes the leader, and then you just adopt their. We're.

[Joe Getty]

We're.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're for tariffs. Now. That is what this party believes, even though we've always been against tariffs in the past.

[Joe Getty]

If Kamala isn't stupid, how could she come out for sex changes for inmates being bubbled? Bubbled, you think? Yeah. Bubble can make you stupid. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, she.

[Joe Getty]

She is an astrophysicist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Space is exciting.

[Joe Getty]

It spurs our imaginations, and it forces us to ask big questions. Space. It affects us all, and it connects us all.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, that was reading a speech, and. And she read that speech and thought, this is good. So that kind of makes her stupid. I mean, I don't know who wrote that, but the fact that she looked at it and thought, oh, this is good stuff,

[Joe Getty]

and nothing. Burger with cheese, please. What? Cheese? No cheese. You want American cheddar? Provolone? No. Cheese. You said with cheese, right? I want non existent cheese on my nothing burger place. You want that on a roll or a bun? Nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

If she is smart and she answers questions the way she does, she's got this weird processing disorder thing that's fascinating on its own. I mean because if you're a smart person and you just after being ridiculed to fort endlessly and I assume coached up on it, you still just can't come out and make a declarative sentence, there's something wrong with your brain.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, agreed. Plus all of her policies suck blank out of a blank's blank. I mean there's that. Let's not forget that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay? We will finish strong.

[Joe Getty]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

When they announced the phone last year, the Trumps promised it would be made in the usa. But now that it's here, brace yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is no longer made in the usa.

[Joe Getty]

The website now just says designed with

[Jack Armstrong]

American values in mind.

That's mine. That's close. No, hey, hey, that's close enough. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

It's just like Arby's slogan, we have the meats in mind.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's funny, that reminds me. My son Henry made that his ringtone. If you call his phone or get a text, it's. It's the Arby's voice.

We have the meats.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I didn't even know ringtones were still a thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that whole Trump phone thing is embarrassing. Yeah, I mean, you can, you can hate on Stephen Colbert for being one sided politics, but there wasn't nothing he said there that wasn't true.

[Joe Getty]

True.

[Jack Armstrong]

Eric and Don Jr. Pitched this phone. Sold $59 million worth of them a year ago. They've not a single phone has shown up. The. The fine print says you might. This doesn't guarantee you get a phone, you're not getting your hundred dollar deposit back. The $59 million were the people who put in deposit. And the whole made in the usa, which is one of the big pitches for the phone. You know all these phones are made in China. They took that out of the website. Now it says what? Made with USA values. Whatever the hell that means.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it means all the marketing was fraudulent. Yeah, that's just.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is something. We are in a new world of like there are no limits presidency. By presidency, I mean Hunter Biden was outrageous. What the Biden family was doing. And then we're just continuing it. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Meme coins and deals with Cutter and the rest of it. It's. It's shocking. I. Yeah. Does the next administration rein it in, declare a new era of respectability, or do they just keep going? Depends.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just was listening to Rahm Emanuel on CNN talk about the DNC autopsy. Maybe we'll talk about that a little bit later. He's going to be a different voice. There's no doubt about it. He is a Democrat, and I don't agree with a lot of the things that he believes in, but he, he is definitely going to be a different Democrat than the ones that have run on the stage before. He said there were like 18 people on the stage last time around and, and they were all the same. He said, I'm going to be a different flavor. So we'll see.

[Joe Getty]

I would just, I'm grateful that a lot of those conversations are going to be had in public.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That somebody is going to challenge the orthodoxy, which is so nutritious. Knots on the left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Final thoughts with Armstrong and get it. You'll get the facts. They're sharp and steady. Tune in tomorrow. Don't you forget it. For more from Armstrong and Getty, Here's your host. Final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. Michelangelo, our technical director, will lead the way. Michael, final thought thought. You know, they mentioned rotisserie chicken. You can now take it on a plane. I'm going to grab myself a rotisserie chicken, some pasta and some French bread and have that for lunch, I think delicious. Me, I like a nice hot fish dish on an airplane. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was talking about this with my kids, actually. We had that graph the other day that the people that eat out the most and do doordash the most are the youngest and poorest among us. The people with the less invest least money or eating out all the time in doordashi. And you can eat so cheap by going to a grocery store or whatever. I mean, really, really cheap if you want to like the rotisserie chickens.

[Joe Getty]

And on the other hand, I adore Dash slashed Uber eated something the other day and was like, good God, by the time you get to the end of the process, this is indefensible. It's pretty high money spent.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's pretty expensive. It really is. Which is why it's so crazy that young people are doing it at all.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm spectacularly wealthy, not like the young, the young and poor.

[Jack Armstrong]

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