Cheeseburger Emergency!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand — “Cheeseburger Emergency!”

Date: December 11, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, “Cheeseburger Emergency!”, Jack and Joe dig into several stories making (or not making) headlines: Florida's Attorney General waging legal war over gender transition procedures, the U.S. seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker and global sanctions evasion, a New York Times exposé involving a transgender patient secretly recording surgery staff, debates about medicine and identity, and plenty of moments of levity—including a passionate ode to cheeseburgers. The show navigates serious cultural issues, mixes in personal anecdotes, and features the team’s signature irreverence and wit.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. General Manager of the Day: Florida Attorney General James Uffmyer

• Topic Introduction ([03:12]):
  • Joe names Florida's Attorney General as "general manager" of the day for writing lawsuits against hospitals over "mutilating children in experimental sex change procedures."
  • Joe Getty: "This is an enormously impactful story, and it's getting practically zero coverage." [03:21]
  • Jack and Joe preview an in-depth discussion later.

2. Secret Surgery Recording: NYT Transgender Patient Story

• Discussion ([04:01-06:02]; [36:21-40:12]):
  • Jack recounts a New York Times story about a transgender cancer patient who secretly recorded her own surgery.
  • Joe: "How often is the human body on the table the main topic of conversation? The procedure obviously is going to be discussed, but are there comments like, 'What is this tattoo?'" [05:04]
  • They consider both the ethics and awkwardness of being a medical professional recorded—whether medical staff ought to police their speech, even with patients under anesthesia.
  • Jack: "How outraged should we all be that conversation was had while this person was under anesthesia?" [05:41]
  • Joe: "Not in the least." [05:48]
  • In a later segment, Jack details specifics of what the patient overheard: staff confusion about gender, updating of medical records to 'male', and the challenges for hospitals handling trans identity versus biological sex in medical files.
    • Jack: "What is the hospital supposed to do? Certainly, from a medical standpoint...you gotta leave it 'male.'" [39:40]
    • Joe: "You're a dude, dude." [39:42]
  • They reflect on the legal and ethical gray area this creates for care providers.

3. Venezuelan Oil Tanker Seizure & Global Sanctions

• Initial Conversation ([06:08-09:52], [16:35-17:30]):
  • Jack and Joe discuss recent U.S. military action boarding a Venezuelan oil tanker.
  • Jack describes military analysis suggesting the seizures are meant to uphold international oil sanctions amid "ghost," "shadow," or "dark" fleets—freighters moving embargoed oil under false flags.
    • Jack: "There are many...giant oil tankers...everybody knows they're Iranian oil or Russian oil or China getting oil to North Korea...the world just puts up with it."
  • Joe expands: "You got an evil, violent narco state that exports crime...and one of their...revenues, oil. So, yeah, I don't think this is a coincidence..." [09:05]
  • Later recaps: News outlets differ in their coverage; ABC highlights U.S. seizure, NYT notes history of 'faked location,' Fox frames it as Venezuela accusing the U.S. of piracy. ([16:34])
  • Discussion on U.S. motivations—whether it's about Venezuela, Russia sanctions, or simply that "we've got a quarter of the world's biggest Navy sitting right there, might as well not put up with it." [16:55]

4. Cheeseburger Emergency / Food Talk

• Segment kicks off with Elon Musk quote ([10:12]):
  • Joe: "If I had to say, like, there's only one thing you could ever have for the rest of time...it would probably be a cheeseburger, because cheeseburgers are amazing."
  • Jack: "Elon Musk, ladies and gentlemen, and I agree with him 100%."
  • Extended riff on best foods and the allure of cheeseburgers ([10:29-11:05]).
  • Jack: "I don't know if I can make it through the entire four-hour show without Doordashing a cheeseburger at this point...just a matter of where." [11:51]
  • Joe analogizes: "It's not the right blood type, but it won't kill you. It's an emergency. You need blood now. You need a cheeseburger now." [12:11]
  • “Cheeseburger Emergency” becomes a running joke.

5. Pressing Headlines & Morning Roundup

• Katie Green’s News Run-Down ([15:22-21:05]):
  • Obamacare subsidies, Republicans' lack of alternative healthcare message
  • Fun interlude: Cow jokes (ground beef, "udder catastrophe") ([16:05-16:24])
  • U.S. oil tanker seizure, Fed Chair warning of overstated jobs numbers, U.S. teen use of AI chatbots, Australian teens skirting social media bans, hungover Russian soldiers, rise in average child's allowance, and a Babylon Bee satire headline.

6. Personal Development Anecdote—Resting 'Pleasant' Face

• Jack's Story ([21:08-23:11]):
  • Jack describes making a conscious effort to smile and present a pleasant expression, which "changed [his] life." Noting that others respond far more positively.
    • Jack: "It's become muscle memory. But now, anytime people come near me, I immediately go into my pleasant face...people will react better to you. They really do." [21:47]

7. Florida Lawsuits: Gender Medicine & Starbucks

• Deep Dive ([28:21-35:07]):
  • Joe gives details on Florida AG James Uffmyer’s two major lawsuits:
    • Lawsuit against Starbucks for alleged illegal race-based hiring quotas
    • Second, more under-reported lawsuit: Florida vs. major medical organizations (WPATH, American Academy of Pediatrics, Endocrine Society) over gender-affirming medical care for children
  • Joe recaps the AG’s position: groups "failed to disclose the risks, limits, and evidence" about gender medicine; “behind closed doors they knew the evidence was weak.” [James Uffmyer, 30:54-32:17]
  • Jack and Joe reframe the debate: lack of genuine medical necessity, the ethical crisis of affirming surgeries on minors.
    • Joe: "We will look back on this with horror...people will be astounded that the various authorities...allowed these experiments to take place."
  • Discussion of how American pediatric/medical organizations diverged sharply from European countries that reversed course on child sex changes after reviewing the evidence. The influence of activist groups.

8. Listener Mailbag Highlights ([43:43-47:27])

• Freedom-loving quotes (Will Durant, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Christopher Hitchens)
• Commentary on social media interactions—blocking rude people and “reading the room”
• Reminders about subscription management and quibbles about show commentary on political figures
• A running joke about Kate Moss and sibling anecdotes
• Reference to previous show’s “sluttiest mammals” segment, segueing into cultural observations

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the Florida Lawsuits and Gender Medicine

  • Joe Getty: "This is an enormously impactful story, and it's getting practically zero coverage." ([03:21])
  • Florida AG James Uffmyer: "For years these groups insisted the recommendations were settled science. But behind closed doors they knew the evidence was weak. They knew the outcomes uncertain and the risks very real. Parents were not told the full story. In fact, some parents were told that if they didn't put their kids through permanent life altering...procedures like double mastectomies and castration, that their child would commit suicide." ([30:54])
  • Jack Armstrong: "None of that is new news obviously, but man, when it's laid out like that, it's just unbelievable." ([32:17])
  • Joe Getty: "We will look back on this with horror..." ([33:27])

• On the Surgery Recording Story

  • Jack Armstrong: "How outraged should we all be that that conversation was had while this person was under anesthesia?" ([05:41])
  • Joe Getty: "Not in the least." ([05:48])
  • Joe Getty: "Present as a man, a woman, an ostrich, rodeo clown, whatever you want, but medically speaking, you're a male. End of discussion." ([39:47])

• On Sanctions and Tanker Evasion

  • Jack Armstrong: "There are many...giant oil tankers...everybody knows they're Iranian oil or Russian oil or China getting oil to North Korea...the world just puts up with it." ([07:15])
  • Joe Getty: "You got an evil, violent narco state that exports crime...and one of their...revenues, oil. So, yeah, I don't think this is a coincidence..." ([09:05])

• On Cheeseburgers

  • Joe Getty (quoting Elon Musk): "If I had to say, like, there's only one thing you could ever have for the rest of time...it would probably be a cheeseburger, because cheeseburgers are amazing." ([10:12])
  • Jack Armstrong: "I don't know if I can make it through the entire four-hour show without Doordashing a cheeseburger at this point..." ([11:51])
  • Joe Getty: "It's not the right blood type, but it won't kill you. It's an emergency. You need blood now. You need a cheeseburger now." ([12:11])

• Funniest Moment

  • Cow joke riff:
    • Jack: "What do you call a cow with no legs? Ground beef." ([16:05])
    • Katie Green: "What do you call a cow jumping over a barbed wire fence? An utter catastrophe." ([16:24])
    • Joe: "Glorifying bovine humor." ([16:32])

• On Personal Transformation

  • Jack Armstrong: "It has changed my life. It is one of the biggest things I’ve ever done...If you can actively change that, people will react better to you. They really do." ([21:47])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:12] — Florida AG story preview
• [04:01] — NYT/Transgender patient secret recording
• [06:08] — Venezuelan oil tanker sanctions discussion
• [10:12] — “Cheeseburger emergency”/Elon Musk food riff
• [15:22] — Headlines with Katie Green (Obamacare, news roundup)
• [21:08] — Jack’s ‘pleasant face’ life hack
• [28:21] — Florida lawsuits deep dive (gender medicine and Starbucks)
• [36:21] — NYT secret surgery recording story expanded
• [43:43] — Freedom quote mailbag, fan mail, and anecdotes

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Overall Tone & Style

The episode blends Armstrong & Getty’s libertarian-leaning realism, skepticism toward groupthink and “official narratives,” darkly comic takes on current events, and a healthy dash of self-deprecating humor. Even as it tackles cultural hot-buttons like gender medicine, it swings easily into personal anecdotes, fast-food cravings, and bits of jokey camaraderie.

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Summary for New Listeners

“Cheeseburger Emergency!” weaves together the serious and the silly: the show investigates underreported stories like Florida’s legal offensive on gender medicine, debates ethical dilemmas from the frontline of modern medicine and identity, and takes listeners through global politics, economics, headlines, and the time-honored importance of a good cheeseburger. If you’re interested in clear-eyed commentary, sharp humor, and don’t mind a little irreverence, Armstrong & Getty serve up a lively, insightful, and often laugh-out-loud spin on the news that matters.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

A div lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, y'.

[Jack Armstrong]

All. Today, little Friday, the week flew by. We're under the tutelage of our general.

[Joe Getty]

Manager, Florida Attorney General James Othmier.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would the Florida Attorney General be our general manager?

[Joe Getty]

An apt question. Indeed. He has filed lawsuits against a bunch of hospitals and entities for mutilating children in experimental sex change procedures. This is an enormously impactful story, and it's getting practically zero coverage. Wow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And what could be the repercussions of that?

[Joe Getty]

Well, exactly. And I've looked at the lawsuit. I've listened to his description of it. This is no, you know, meaningless political Internet gesture. This is a serious man making a serious effort. We'll talk more about that, obviously, later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I have questions about that. I didn't want to ask about that. And then. And that just reminds me, story I was just reading in the New York Times, A transgender cancer patient secretly recorded her surgery. Here's what she heard. Have you seen this story?

[Joe Getty]

No, I haven't.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this poor person is dying of cancer and under. And are undergoing, like, yet another surgery on cancer, tumors and stuff like that. But for whatever reason, decides to record, without the knowledge of the doctors, their conversations while they're under.

Which would be an interesting thing for any of us to do.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yeah. If only. Oh, it's funny. These guys are really into sports or whatever. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, man. It was creeping me out reading about it, just thinking about if I was one of the doctors. I mean, is. So. Is it.

[Joe Getty]

Do I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do I need to talk as if the person is awake.

Even though they're asleep, in case they're recording me?

[Joe Getty]

Because how often is the human body on the table, the main topic of conversation? I mean, the procedure obviously is going to be discussed, but are there comments.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, well, what is this tattoo? Wow, that's weird. You know, Is there stuff like that? Probably, yeah. Probably is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It sounds like a couple of surgeons and they jam music and then laugh and talk about life and the rest of it. The same things everybody does when they're at work.

[Jack Armstrong]

But of course, in this case, somebody said.

Is this a he or she? You know, stuff like that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's. That's gonna happen if you are trying to dabble with sex. Changy stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

And how outraged should we all be that that conversation was had while this person was un. Under anesthesia?

[Joe Getty]

How. How does not in the least suit you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, after that later, I thought it was. The concept of it was interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I guess. I'm scrolling through various news outlets. I can't find any coverage of this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of the Attorney general going after the doctor.

[Joe Getty]

So the Florida thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I do have a lot of questions about.

[Joe Getty]

I suppose I could do a new.

[Jack Armstrong]

Search, but I'll wait till we get to the full story. Have you seen the video of us going on that oil tanker? The Venezuelan oil tanker?

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Getting a lot of attention. I took in a relatively high amount of coverage on that and then just heard the actual, actual explanation from some military guy on News Nation a little bit ago. I hadn't heard this person's. Anybody else say this. It had practically nothing to do with our drug thing that we're doing in Venezuela.

Or a whole bunch of other things. It's the. It's. It's like a separate action that there are. I forget if the guy said 100 or hundreds, but either way, it's a lot of these falsely flagged oil tankers that are floating all around the world shipping oil all the time, and for some reason the world just puts up with it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, The Shadow Fleet. Is that what they call it?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think that's what it was called. I think it was a different world word, but similar to that. The Dark Fleet or the Dark something.

[Joe Getty]

The Ghost Fleet.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, I guess it goes on all the time. There are many, many of these giant oil tankers that move around that everybody knows they're, you know, that's Iranian oil or Russian oil or China getting oil to North Korea or whatever the hell it is. And the world just puts up with it because it would be messy to deal with or something. But anyway, yesterday, Trump administration, we boarded one of those ships.

[Joe Getty]

So he was positing that this is just a coincidence, that a ship from Venezuela carrying oil to Cuba was the one we busted.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if he was specific. He didn't specifically use the word coincidence, but said it's not. It's not directly related to the. He said it's not directly related to the whole drug thing. It certainly could be related to the regime change thing.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. Which is related to the drug thing. They're inseparable. Yeah, they're anarcho cartel running a country.

[Jack Armstrong]

We shouldn't put up with that. I mean, if oil sanctions are like the number one tool of, you know, the good guys, you can't just let hundreds of these ships float around the world moving oil around. Or we're from Belgium. Yeah, that's it. They had a Belgian flag and then nothing to do with Belgium. Who wants a waffle? Yeah, we're shipping Waffles around the world. We're from. We're from Belgium. Don't mind my Middle Eastern accent.

[Joe Getty]

We have a clip about this if.

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[Jack Armstrong]

It appears as though the country was.

[Joe Getty]

Not flying a proper flag, as the Maritime Administration says that they observed the proliferation and unacceptable trend of the unauthorized use of our flag by vessels that are not registered to our country. This is something that is typical, using our flag without authorization, and we're not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Putting up with that. Just. I just.

[Joe Getty]

I just.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't know that that was going on as regularly as it was. And everybody knew it. And everybody said, well, what are you gonna do?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, well, you got an evil, violent narco state that exports crime and all sorts of stuff. And one of their, you know, other avenues, Revenues, oil. So, yeah, I don't. I don't think this is a coincidence or something. This particular.

[Jack Armstrong]

This particular military analyst said it has more to do with trying to keep the oil sanctions that are hurting Russia on than what we're doing in Venezuela.

Which was its own interesting thing in the midst of the peace talks. If it's to send the message to Putin that, hey, this whole you getting around the sanctions, they got to go.

[Joe Getty]

On forever, that would be an interesting twist. I could see that. And as long as we've got all the personnel in the Caribbean, we decided to illustrate that point there. That's the only way I could see that being true. But wait and see.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting. Let's start the show officially on a Thursday. So Christmas is two weeks from today. Do I have my math right today correct? Yeah. I am starting to feel the pressure as I have purchased zero presents. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Thursday, December 11, the year 2025, where Armstrong and Getty and we approve of this program.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Elon Musk, ladies and gentlemen, and I agree with him 100%. My top three foods have always been steak, gravy, cheeseburger, but if I could only eat one for the rest of my life, I'd probably go cheeseburger truth.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if it's possible I can make it through the entire four hour show without doordashing a cheeseburger at this point. I think I will. Now it's just a matter of from where.

[Joe Getty]

The time of day is a bit of an issue, isn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

McDonald's is serving cheeseburgers now. That's not really the cheeseburger I want.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you know what it's. It's like, you know, it's not the right blood type, but it won't kill you. It's an emergency. You need blood now. You need a cheeseburger now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cheeseburger emergency. Exactly. We got Katie's headlines on the way and lots of other stuff to get to stay here. Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Voting on some sort of legislation to cover the Obamacare people whose subsidies are going to go up because Covid ended and it's expected to fail. I don't know why that's a story, but maybe more on that later.

[Joe Getty]

I think the main story is the GOP has no alternative. They have no coherent plan. They have no message to sell to the American people. They're just in disarray. So unbelievable. A lot to get to today, including the blockbuster lawsuit out of Florida that's getting virtually no coverage, suing the gender bending Dr. Mengele. Like transition doctors. We'll cover it for you because nobody else is apparently. But first let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie, how's going Going through our joke.

[Jack Armstrong]

Submissions from various people texting us. I'm sure I'd heard this before, but for whatever reason, I laughed. Maybe it's because I'm sick. What do you call a cow with no legs? Ground beef.

[Joe Getty]

I found made me laugh.

That's a classic there.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is, a classic.

For some reason, I was picturing the cow out in the meadow, just there.

[Joe Getty]

Just ground beef.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're not going anywhere really.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Katie Green]

What do you call a cow jumping over a barbed wire fence? An utter catastrophe.

[Joe Getty]

Glorifying bovine humor.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like that.

[Katie Green]

All right, the story, the tanker, the headlines, ABC US Seizes tanker off of coast of Venezuela. From the New York Times, this oil tanker that the US Seized has faked its location before. And from Fox, Venezuela accuses US of piracy after seizing massive oil tanker.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's interesting. So we got the whole Venezuela thing going. We got all the. Maybe that's it, what you said. Maybe it's just the fact that, yeah, these ships are floating around the ocean all the time. We got a quarter of the world's biggest Navy sitting right there. Might as well not put up with it in this instance.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Or in this case, the Coast Guard, which many folks forget is one of our great armed services.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you ain't gonna fight the Coast Guard with the whole Navy around you, right?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a factor.

[Katie Green]

From the Wall Street Journal, Fed Chair Jerome Powell says US may be drastically overstepped, stating jobs numbers.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I saw that. I was going to bring that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

And is that because of the whole government shutdown, we don't actually know what the jobs numbers are?

[Joe Getty]

That didn't really factor into it. It's just there's a pattern of revising job numbers downward.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's what Trump was complaining of for a long time, that our method for counting this is antiquated and horrible. So why.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

For the Washington Post, Republicans struggle to unite on health care as Obama's subsidies expire.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. What's troubling about this is the reason the Republicans. It's not just like a lack of organization or whatever. There's a heck of a lot of Republicans, including the President of the United States, who doesn't want, you know, costs to go up for people because it's, you know, it's a losing argument. Even though.

I mean, you should, you should win this argument easily. Sure of this is what they were before we made an exception for Covid. The great catastrophe for Covid. Now they're just going back to the Biden era Democrat legislation numbers. What's Wrong with that.

[Joe Getty]

But we have some audio of Ron Johnson, the thoroughly reasonable senator from Wisconsin talking about this. And the messaging is perfect. And it's shocking because I haven't heard anybody say what he said. It just the evil party and the stupid party.

[Katie Green]

From NBC. Survey says 28% of U.S. teens say they use AI chatbots daily.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do.

Depends on what you're using it for. Are you using it for companionship, for sex, or to answer? To cheat at school?

[Katie Green]

A recipe or.

[Joe Getty]

Recipe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. Or. Yeah. Or something benign.

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From the Telegraph. Australian teenagers already skirt the world's first social media ban.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I had no doubt that would happen at least to some extent. But it might just be a good run through for. Okay, this is how kids get around bands. This is the weak points. This is what we need to know going forward. So I still say it's worth trying.

[Katie Green]

Oh, absolutely. I just think they need to up the technology on how they're determining the age because apparently all they had to do was frown at the cameras and they got past the face IDs.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, really sophisticated ruse.

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[Joe Getty]

Wow. Frowning makes you look significantly older.

[Katie Green]

Older, Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll be damned.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

From the New York Post, Hungover Russians delayed Ukraine's Pearls harbor style attack on Moscow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I read that whole story. That's interesting. Well, we'll have to talk about that later. To fill in all the gaps. Takes a little while.

[Katie Green]

From study finds. Survey says average child's allowance has reached $52 a month.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's gotta be. It's gotta be close to right.

Even if I think about my own allowance as a kid and adjust it for inflation, it's probably about right. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It's barely 13 bucks a week. That doesn't seem that crazy.

[Katie Green]

And finally, from the Babylon Bee, Trump announces aid package to farmers to help them deal with how amazing the economy is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

So it's interesting that young people got past the.

Camera as an adult by frowning because a lot of people develop a perma frown as they get older. And I've talked about this on the air, but I wanted to talk about it again. If you have RBF like I did, which is basically a frown.

I purposefully. How. How long ago was it? Six months ago. Whatever. That I decided I'm gonna walk around with a. Try to walk around with a pleasant look on my face all the time or sit all the time. It has changed my life. It is one of the biggest things I've ever done in my life.

Is to actively try to have a pleasant look on my face. It's just.

[Joe Getty]

Are you able to remember to do that pretty consistently?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. Yeah, I think about it all the time. When I walk into a room and it's become. It's become. And it took a while. It's like. It's like muscle memory. Practicing to throw, hit a golf ball or play a guitar or whatever. It took a while of muscle memory. But now anytime people come near me, I immediately go into my pleasant face. It just automatically happens, and I'm hoping over time, it just sticks. So it's that way all the time. But it has changed the way people interact with me completely. It's amazing. I wish I had, like, I had a. A film crew follow me around as a psychological experiment. So if you've got the, you know, murdery face or the rbf, if you. If you can actively change that, people will react better to you. They really do.

[Joe Getty]

That's super interesting. You ought to write that up. I mean, but the journal would run that as, I guess, the editorial or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's so interesting. My whole life I didn't know that I was, you know, being that off putting to people and getting the reactions I was getting just because of the look on my face.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Yeah. I gotta stop walking in rooms and staring people down, saying, you want to go? You want to go right now? I just did.

[Jack Armstrong]

You want a piece of me?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Want to step outside?

Well, how interesting. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's great.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's.

[Joe Getty]

I would think that would be really, really hard to do because I would forget to do it constantly. But I suppose you walk in, you.

[Jack Armstrong]

See people, and it reminds you, yeah, man. There's some doctors out there that might want to flee the country. We'll explain.

[Joe Getty]

Coming up, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. What the hell was that? Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

Apparently Netflix. Netflix. There are more than one flick. Netflix is taking some flack for its upcoming Ultra woke film featuring a transgender coal miner fighting the patriarchy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, I have a feeling the transgender coal miner idea was pitched and accepted a couple of years ago when the trans thing was a little hotter. Yeah, you kind of were on the front foot.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes. And people were afraid to say it strikes me as madness, all of this. The Argentinian film Queen of Coal, which stars Marvel and Star wars star Pedro Pascal's real life transgender brother. Well, that trans person struggling to be accepted as a coal miner.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there any way I can get him to get out of my life? Stop showing up on everything I want to watch.

[Joe Getty]

A trans woman dreams of working the coal mines, but in A town steeped in superstition and patriarchy. Carlita must fight to earn her place underground.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's all in the execution. So I guess you'd have to watch it. I probably won't. To decide whether or not it's good enough. I had forgotten about Netflix. I read an article the other day, the founder because net. Well, Netflix, you know, is trying to buy HBO and Paramount and that whole merger thing and all that sort of stuff coming together and it'll be even bigger of a behemoth than it already is. But those two dudes started with you could mail a dvd. I mean they were just trying to come up with a better blockbuster is what they did. And then they, and then they, they changed on a fly. It's very much like Zuckerberg and Facebook. I mean Facebook wasn't intended to be what it ended up being. One of the, you know, making him a billionaire is a completely different idea, but you're just nimble enough to adjust with the times. It's pretty interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it is interesting and it reaffirms something I've long believed, which is sometimes just try things because they might just be one or two clicks off a really, really good thing. And you don't know till you dive in.

[Jack Armstrong]

But for companies that successful to have started is. It's, you know, it's not like Henry Ford started out to make dog food and ended up making cars. Cars was the original idea but, but Facebook and Netflix especially, yeah, you put your little, your DVD in the pouch and it had a postage on it and you could mail it back.

[Joe Getty]

So the story we want to feature right now, I think this is of enormous significance culturally in the United States and it's getting cruelly little coverage. I've had to do a couple of news searches to find it and sure enough I found coverage. But has to do with the Florida Attorney General James Utmyer, who's got a couple of lawsuits that he's announced. The one that's getting much more attention is that he's suing Starbucks alleging the company uses racial discrimination and illegal hiring quotas. Illegal race based quotas. The lawsuit alleges that in 2020, Starbucks said its diverse representation goals were to hire people of color and 40% of retail and distribution center jobs, blah blah, blah, and they are actively discriminating against hiring people of color of a certain race that would be non people of color. So anyway, that one's getting a lot of attention. I had to do some digging to find more than a bit of coverage on this story. Florida is filing a lawsuit against three medical groups that push children into transgender mutilation procedures, as I prefer to call them, because that's what it is. They cause permanent changes based on incredibly shaky.

Science.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it fair to say there is zero medical need?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The only people who say that there are are radical gender activists who claim that gender affirmation is a thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you have to pretend there's general genuine medical need to do the surgery, don't you? Otherwise you're, what the hell are you doing?

[Joe Getty]

Well, right, you're just like cropping the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tails of dogs or something. You're just doing something for.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it reminds me of the horrible genital mutilations in Africa or what have you. It's, it's terrible, it's awful. As I've said a thousand times, we will look back on this with horror and, and people will be astounding, astounded that the various authorities, medical and legal, allowed these experiments to take place. Anyway, here's the Florida Attorney General explaining himself. It's a little longish, but he does a really good job laying it out.

[James Uffmyer]

This is Attorney General James Uffmyer. Today I'm announcing that we are taking legal action against several powerful medical the World Professional association for Transgender Health, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Endocrine Society. We believe these organizations failed to disclose the risks, limits and evidence when promoting so called gender affirming care for children. For years these groups insisted the recommendations were settled science. But behind closed doors they knew the evidence was weak. They knew the outcomes uncertain and the risks very real. Parents were not told the full story. In fact, some parents were told that if they didn't put their kids through permanent life altering sick procedures like double mastectomies and castration, that their child would commit suicide. Not only is that unethical and dangerous medicine, but it is against the law. Children were irrevocably harmed because truth was replaced with political activism. When organizations make medical claims, they have a duty to be honest. When they intentionally mislead families, their members and the medical profession, we hold them accountable. Florida will always follow the evidence, protect children and defend parents rights to make informed decisions.

[Jack Armstrong]

None of that is new news obviously, but man, when it's laid out like that, it's just unbelievable. You got a, you got a mom and a dad who haven't been following this story and a freaking expert using my finger quotes tells you well you've got no choice. Your 12 year old believes they're a girl. And if we don't do this surgery, they'll kill themselves. All studies show.

[Joe Getty]

Not only that, but they say, and all studies show that a 13 year old girl surrounded by other 13 year old girls saying the same thing. They know with certainty that indeed they are in the wrong body and need to be sexually. Don't question them, don't talk about their autism, their depression, their alienation, don't talk about any psychological problems. In fact if you do that, that's deprogramming or what do they call it? The, the gay conversion therapy. Yeah, you're practicing conversion therapy and that's been discredited. It's an insidious conspiracy.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what did the doctors use for their legal rationale that the recommendations from the those various boards. Well, because if I go to the doctor and say I'd like you to remove my nose, I think most ethical doctors are going to say I'm not going to do that.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. The intersection of these activist organizations like wpath, that was the first one he mentioned. They're infamous. They have foisted so many awful, un.

Replicable, thoroughly discredited studies that have influenced, you know, the sex change industry around the world for a number of years. Those were the studies that Europe took a serious look at in the cast. Sweden famously in the Netherlands and said whoa, whoa, whoa, there is no evidence based science to support these claims. And they hit the brakes hard and put the car of child sex changes hard in reverse all across Europe because they realized that these studies were utterly fictional. That's wpath, the American Academy of Pediatrics. Which sounds so. Wait a minute, they're kid doctors, right? No, they are a leftist activist group. They've been captured by these activists as has the Endocrine Society. If you're not familiar with the term, it has to do with hormones. Oh, like selling hormones and prescribing hormones and that sort of thing? Yeah, they're down with it. So this one's going to be super interesting to follow.

Something tells me that the attorney general there, Mr. Uckmeyer has, is going to file suits. Not in some sort of crazy ass woke Biden nominee court district. We'll see. And the, you know, the Starbucks thing is huge. Too impactful.

[Jack Armstrong]

So do we have something to tell people about Michael before? Oh yeah. Boy, this is the time of year to tell you about simply safe. The only time I've ever had my house broken into because it just sticks in my mind was Christmas time when you got a tree and presents and all that sort of stuff. That's the time when scumbags like to break in because they know there's stuff there. And this is the time of year when I really, really, really like the fact that I got the Simply Safe sign out there letting people know that I got the Simply Safe setup with the cameras and sensors and all that sort of stuff. And you can have the lifeguard protection that catches people before they break in.

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Yeah, Simplisafe. I don't know, it makes me feel a lot more comfortable when I drive away from my house this month.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So, of course this is reported as a horror in the New York Times, but it's about this person that had bad cancer and was into their umpteenth surgery, a trans person, a man.

Who now went by a woman, decided to secretly record the surgery. And then what this person heard the surgeon say was horrifying and shocking.

She recorded the surgery. A person saying, I just wanted to know, like, in case they gave any medical advice, you know, why I'm on. Under anesthesia. I hear it. Or something like that. Okay, sure.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wanted to know what's going on. I'm reading from the New York Times. She recounted. She turned on the audio recorder on her phone before the anesthesia hit. It's kind of interesting. I've. I've been in those situations. I don't remember having the opportunity to have my phone with me or record. But anyway, me neither.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The surgeons were removing part of her lung. She did not. She did not get around to playing the recording until a few weeks later. Though the audio was muffled, she could follow somewhat. The surgical team was saying before the procedure began, someone's going out for coffee. Did anyone. Somebody want something from Starbucks? Then the conversation shifted. Still has man parts, said one of the medical crew. It seemed to Ms. Capaso, that's the person in question that they were talking about. Her genitalia Yeah, I think. I think you are correct in deducing that.

[Joe Getty]

Good guess on the recording.

[Jack Armstrong]

The healthcare workers express a variety of opinions about transgender identity more generally. Not that it's not right, but, said one person, I don't get any of it. Another says. And in the middle of the conversation, one person suggested updating the patient's medical file. Yeah, it needs to say male, one of the medical team said.

[Joe Getty]

Because that's a male is why.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, the patient said. It appeared that the hospital staff had, in fact, changed the electronic medical records, all while New York Times says she was unconscious, with the records now marked as M for mail. Some hospital staff members had referred to her as sir during the weekly appointments.

[Joe Getty]

After the surgery, probably because it's a dude.

[Jack Armstrong]

Others made a big deal about her being transgender. One person perhaps taunting her, says, this person, I don't think so. I think they were going along with your thing, perhaps trying to be supportive. Said things like, yes, queen. Also unwelcome, said Ms. Capasso.

[Joe Getty]

That's what young people say these days.

[Jack Armstrong]

But some person going along with your wants also gets criticized. Yeah, you can't win here.

[Joe Getty]

I take no joy in the fact that this poor person, A, has cancer and B, is a paranoid, you know, activist lunatic. But they clearly are. They. It's.

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[Joe Getty]

They're to be pitied.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an interesting one. And then we'll. We'll take a break, but. So Ms. Capasso said that she asked the hospital administration to switch the male designation back to female, and she received a surprising answer. It couldn't be done anytime soon. What is the hospital supposed to do? Because certainly from a medical standpoint, and the way the, you know, human body might react to things as a male versus a female, you gotta leave it male.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you're a dude, dude.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry. Wow, that's an interesting one. I'm surprised that hasn't been worked out legally yet.

[Joe Getty]

Present as a man, a woman, an ostrich, rodeo clown, whatever you want, but medically speaking, you're a male. End of discussion.

[Jack Armstrong]

So are medical professionals supposed to keep those conversations to themselves while you're asleep? That's an interesting question itself. So they're having. I don't know about the whole transgender thing. I don't get any of it while you're asleep.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's just awful. How dare they.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shut up. Okay, we got Mailbag on the way. And other news to get to stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I want to talk about working at the Christmas tree lot last night. I hadn't done any retail work in a long time working with the public, which was 99 fantastic, but one interaction that was hilarious and a good lesson for my son. So stay tuned. Fabulous.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your freedom Loving quote of the day. This is from Will Durant. A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within. I think that is generally true. Echoing the thoughts of Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who certainly.

Orwell, you know, had a kinship with. To destroy a people, you must first sever their roots.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Covers public schools today.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I was quoting Christopher Hitchens a couple of weeks ago. I'd never heard him say this before. He's giving a lecture. He said, usually when civilizations fall, there are people there holding the door open for the barbarians when they get there.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah, indeed. Mailbag.

Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongygetty.com Mike, formerly of Arkansas, Farmerly. There's my Irish.

[Jack Armstrong]

Me.

[Joe Getty]

Irish roots coming through. He's firmly from the land of Arkansas. Anyway, he. He was the guy who.

Answered a tweet, commented on your tweet with, like, nastiness and viciousness.

[Jack Armstrong]

And.

[Joe Getty]

And he says it was intended to be like, a parody of online anger.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, you're not good at it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna start blocking more people. I've decided I don't need this in my life. You're gonna criticize family pictures?

[Joe Getty]

Screw you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just gonna block you. I don't need to.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, read the room. That's just not a good avenue of humor. Moving along. And cheerier news, here's Carla. A reminder for Jack. Dear Jack, remember, if it takes less than five minutes to do it now, cancel your Bloomberg subscription. It's been almost two months. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. I need that personal assistant in my life. You signed up for this thinking. The interrupter introductory. Eight dollar a month for six months was a great deal, but it goes to 150amonth on January 7th, remember? And I always think I'll remember, and then I don't.

[Joe Getty]

Carla, are you available for hire? I need you.

Greetings from a former fan of your show. You two dip asses like to talk about what other people think without actually knowing what they say. Before you get on your show and call out people like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes, among others, you should take the time to listen to what they're actually saying. Either that or stick to what you actually know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

That's exactly what they're saying, John. They're saying a great deal of reasonable stuff and then a pretty good chunk of abhorrent stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's interesting that that defense always comes up. Why do you call Nick Fuentes a Nazi and then People who do can. Well, here's eight tweets where he calls himself a Nazi. What am I supposed to do with that information?

[Joe Getty]

Moving along. I made reference to Kate Moss's dopey sister yesterday on the show. I believe she had overdosed on one of the GLP1 drugs or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a Katie Green story. Yeah, right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Garrick in Davis, California, writes, I actually knew Kate Moss's sister. She was really dopey. So there you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kate Moss, who said, nothing tastes better than thin. That was her famous quote.

[Joe Getty]

I guess then thin feels right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something like that. Yeah, that's actually pretty decent. I mean, like, if I'm thinking about eating cake or something, thin feels better than cake tastes because it does.

[Joe Getty]

Or. Or not obese.

[Jack Armstrong]

When I'm thinking about should I eat this or not?

[Joe Getty]

Or. Yeah, yeah, this doesn't taste as good as not fitting into my pants. Feels bad. You can reverse it if you want. Yeah, Drew the millennial. Really interesting note regarding your sluttiest mammals segment. If you missed it, get this podcast, Armstrong Yeti on demand yesterday. We're going to follow up on that today. By the way, the sluttiest mammal according to science, is sheep. Interesting that a common method of communist regimes is to promote promiscuity in order to prevent the development of personal relationships and commitments and family to sheep for the state. Mr. Huxley had something to say about that. He did indeed. In Brave New World. Also completely related. Ulysses by James Joyce. Sucks. I hate that stupid book.

You know, we've got to continue his critique next hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would like to get into that because I'm loving it. But man, this chapter I'm in now is tough. Really tough.

[Joe Getty]

A little bonus mailbag next hour. Then stay tuned if you dare.

[Jack Armstrong]

A number of other stories to get to the Wall Street Journal on why the Republicans are not going to be able to pass anything around the whole Obamacare subsid. Maybe we'll get to that.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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Shh.

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