Chocolate Cake Is The Cherry On Top Of Life

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: “Chocolate Cake Is The Cherry On Top Of Life”
Date: September 12, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty dive deep into current events swirling around the shocking political assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. They discuss the fallout, the suspect’s background, and use the moment to launch into a spirited critique of the politicization of daily life, especially among youth and in education. Alongside these heavy topics, the show provides lighter moments, including a humorous rundown of recent “cancel culture” targets, banter on face expressions during Zoom meetings, critiques of Starbucks bathroom policies, and a candid take on protein bars and diet culture. The conversation is lively, opinionated, and peppered with signature A&G humor.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. The Political Assassination of Charlie Kirk

Timestamps: 00:57 – 08:58

• Governor Spencer Cox’s Statement: The episode opens with Utah Governor Spencer Cox announcing the suspect in Kirk’s assassination, Tyler Robinson, has been apprehended. The Governor frames the event as an attack not only on an individual, but on the “American experiment” itself.
  • Quote [00:57, Gov. Cox]: “This is certainly about the tragic death, assassination… but it is also much bigger… It is an attack on our ideals.”
• Discussion: Jack and Joe express their moral abhorrence toward political violence of any kind.
  • Quote [01:45, Joe]: “If you’re okay with the other side getting beaten down or killed, you have not thought this through.”
• Details on the Suspect:
  • Investigation revealed Robinson had become radicalized through political discussions, online messages, and had even engraved political slogans on rifle casings.
  • Quote [05:24, Gov. Cox]: “Investigators noted inscriptions... On a fired casing read ‘notices bulges OWO what’s this?’ ...Others read ‘hey, fascist! Catch!’ ...‘If you read this, you are gay. LMAO.’”
• Analysis: Hosts dissect the significance of these details and reflect on the dangers of politicizing and radicalizing youth.

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2. The Dangers of Politicizing Everything

Timestamps: 08:58 – 13:20

• Cultural Critique: Jack argues that the real tragedy is the way educational institutions increasingly make all aspects of life political, thereby stoking division and rage among young people.
  • Quote [09:59, Jack]: “Looking to government to solve every single issue and problem we have as people is insane.”
• Joe references Nick Gillespie’s commentary (Reason magazine) that the genius of America is that politics doesn’t have to dominate our lives.
  • Quote [08:58, Joe]: “Politics should be the least important part of our lives. Imagine saying that to a room full of college kids.”
• They joke about the idea of decolonizing subjects like math and relive a British sentiment:
  • Quote [11:13, Jack]: “It used to be that an Englishman could go two weeks without being reminded of or bumping up against his government. And now you can’t get through an afternoon.”

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3. Cancel Culture & Cultural Satire

Timestamps: 13:35 – 15:44

• Chocolate Cake as Life’s Joy: In a comic interlude, the show veers into chocolate cake metaphors and “treat yourself” culture.
  • Quote [13:42, Jack]: “To me, chocolate cake is the cherry on the sundae of life.”
• Comedy Bit – The List of Cancellations: A comedic monologue lampoons recent efforts to “cancel” brands and icons, from Aunt Jemima to Mr. Potato Head.
  • Quote [14:43, Comedian]: “You got Mr. Potato Head changed to just Potato Head to be more gender inclusive.”

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4. How to Respond to Political Hysteria

Timestamps: 15:44 – 17:56

• The Power of Mockery: The hosts suggest ridicule as a tool against “dictatorial” zealotry.
  • Quote [15:48, Jack]: “If you successfully mock the rigid dictators of leftist America, that’s when you get them.”

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5. Lighthearted Workplace Tangent: Resting Murdery Face

Timestamps: 16:15 – 18:08

• Banter about Zoom Meetings: Joe describes practicing facial expressions to avoid appearing menacing (having a “resting murdery face”).
  • Quote [16:44, Joe]: “Just sitting, walking down the street... I might be like nearly ecstatic, but that’s just what my face looks like.”

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6. Starbucks Renovations & Public Bathrooms

Timestamps: 18:49 – 20:29

• Jokes on Starbucks’ Planned Renovations: Speculation about bathroom design as a response to homeless patrons.
  • Quote [19:35, Jack]: “Yeah, just woke. Doesn’t work. It doesn’t work in the real world.”
• Shared Experiences: Discussion about communal bathroom sinks causing discomfort.

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7. Israel-Palestine Update & UN Vote

Timestamps: 20:43 – 21:31

• Global Politics Update: Brief coverage of the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict and the UN’s statehood vote.
  • Quote [21:24, Jack]: "The leadership hasn't wanted [a Palestinian state] unless it wipes out Israel for three generations."
• US Stance and Rubio's Visit: Only a handful of countries, including the US, voted against Palestinian statehood; Marco Rubio leverages this with a symbolic visit to Israel.

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8. Russia, NATO, and Drone Incursions into Poland

Timestamps: 21:31 – 27:34

• Reporting on Russian Drones: Multiple Russian drones entered Polish airspace, probing NATO’s reaction.
  • Quote [23:02, Jack]: “The Russian claim was that it’s the Ukrainians’ fault... But authorities... are saying no way.”
• Trump’s Response: Played down the incident, suggesting it “could have been a mistake.”
  • Quote [23:31, Trump]: “Could have been a mistake. But regardless, I’m not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation.”
• NATO’s Dilemma: Discussion on the cost-ineffectiveness of using expensive fighter jets to counter cheap drones.
  • Quote [25:55, CNN Reporter]: “This is totally unprecedented... Not the most cost-effective way to do that.”

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9. Ukraine War - European Dependency on Russian Energy

Timestamps: 28:01 – 29:35

• Critique of European Policy: The hosts criticize Europe’s continued energy purchases from Russia.
  • Quote [29:30, Jack]: “Don’t watch, don’t listen to what they say. Watch what they do.”
• Civilians Targeted in Ukraine: Mention of a Russian missile strike on elderly Ukrainians.

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10. Miscellaneous: Uber’s Helicopter Feature & Protein Bars

Timestamps: 30:44 – 37:01

• Uber's Next Move: Jokes about the prospect of booking helicopters via Uber.
• Are Protein Bars Just Candy? Brief discussion of nutrition myths and advice.
  • Quote [34:09, Joe]: “You’d have to search high and low to find an American who actually needs more protein than they’re getting.”
• Dieting Reality Check: Calorie deficit is still the core of weight loss, says Joe.
  • Quote [35:26, Joe]: “If you take in fewer calories than you burn every day, you lose weight. The end.”
• Snack Alternatives & Egg-Peeling Hack: Humorous suggestions for snacks and peeling hard-boiled eggs.

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Notable Quotes

• Governor Spencer Cox [00:57]: “It is an attack on the American experiment. It is an attack on our ideals.”
• Joe Getty [01:45]: “If you’re okay with the other side getting beaten down or killed, you have not thought this through.”
• Nick Gillespie via Joe Getty [08:58]: “Politics should be the least important part of our lives.”
• Jack Armstrong [13:42]: “To me, chocolate cake is the cherry on the sundae of life.”
• Unknown Comedian [14:43]: “You got Mr. Potato Head changed to just Potato Head to be more gender inclusive.”
• Jack Armstrong [15:48]: “If you successfully mock the rigid dictators of leftist America, that’s when you get them.”
• Joe Getty [16:44]: “I don’t have rbf. I have rmf. Resting, Murdery face.”

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Language/Tone: Direct, sardonic, irreverent, at times earnest.
• Major Themes:
  • The urgency and risks of letting politics seep into all aspects of American life.
  • The dangers of political radicalization.
  • Holding up satire and laughter as weapons against dogmatism.
  • The importance of skepticism, critical thinking, and not surrendering to mass hysteria.
  • Mixing weighty topics with banter and personal anecdotes for levity.

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For New Listeners: Why Listen?

This episode offers a pointed, unsparing look at the consequences of hyper-politicization while maintaining Armstrong & Getty’s trademark blend of outrage, sarcasm, and humor. The hosts careen from the tragic and very real (Charlie Kirk assassination, global conflicts) to the absurd (Zoom faces, chocolate cake, egg-peeling hacks), providing a dynamic portrait of the world in 2025—never boring, often enlightening, and occasionally hilarious.

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Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Governor Spencer Cox]

This is. This is certainly about the tragic death, assassination, political assassination of Charlie Kirk. But it is also much bigger than an attack on an individual. It is an attack on all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment. It is an attack on our ideals. We will never be able to solve all the other problems, including the violence problems that people are. Are worried about if we can't have a clash of ideas safely and securely, even, especially, especially those ideas with which you disagree. That's why this matters so much.

[Joe Getty]

I can't imagine any position other than political violence is abhorrent. It's just. It doesn't make any sense to me. I. If you're. If you're okay with the other side getting beaten down or killed, you have not thought this through. Because it wouldn't end there. It doesn't end there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Right. That was Governor Spencer Cox of Utah to your point. Yeah. To allow it against the other side. You are condoning it against your side and have decided it's time for open warfare, which is foolish to say the very, very least.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the assassin of Charlie Kirk has been apprehended. The press conference happened recently. The salient facts follow. This is Governor Cox once again.

[Governor Spencer Cox]

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him. On the evening of September 11, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th. And in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to uvu. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go on roommate.

[Governor Spencer Cox]

Who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made a joke on Discord. Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord. He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages including content of messages between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush. Messages related to to a to visually watching the area where a rifle was left and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique messages from the contact. Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.

[Joe Getty]

So Dum Dum comes up with a plan where I. I heard people say it was very clever. The spot he chose made it easy to exit to a parking lot that was right by the interstate. I mean, like, so, you know, I thought out an escape plan until you get home. And then I'm just gonna hope nobody catches on. Even though I've made posts about how much I hate Charlie Cook and rifles and whatnot online. I mean, so I don't know what's going on there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Right. And we may never know. I. The greater point has just come together in my head. But before we get to that, one more clip of the governor talking about the shell casings and the engravings that we talked about yesterday.

[Governor Spencer Cox]

So the area north of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over. You saw some of that in the video that we released last night. Consists of a grassy area with trees on the edge of the UVU campus. Investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel. The rifle was determined to be a Mauser Model 98. 3006 caliber. 3006 caliber bolt action rifle. The rifle had a scope mounted on top of it. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing read, notices bulges, capital O, W, O. What's this question mark? Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch exclamation point. Up arrow symbol, right arrow and symbol and three down arrow symbols. A second unfired casing read, oh bella, chow, bella, chow, bella, chow, chow, chow. And a third unfired casing red. If you read this, you are gay. Lmao.

[Joe Getty]

That one is not quite as literate as the other ones. So hey, Fascist Catch is pretty easy to understand. The Bella Chow one is a song favored by resistance movements and revolutionary anti capitalist partisans. So that's a fairly, you know, scholarly knowledge about these kind of movements for a guy whose plan was, I'll go home and hope they don't catch me.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I just looked up o wo it's just an emoji of a surprised person. So we will decode more of that as we go forward. It's funny, it just came together in my head as I was listening to the first clip we played of the governor. Family members say he became more political. And what came together in my head is how evil and dangerous it is to politicize children and young people and dictators have known this. They've done it intentionally because they know how pliable young people are and they haven't developed their sense of reasonable caution yet. But bear in mind, and we don't know this young man's story, although it's probably very similar to a lot of the other angry and violent young activists we see on college campuses these days. It is the avowed purpose of a lot of colleges and universities and honestly, some high school and elementary school teachers, to politicize everything. As we were discussing last hour, every class should be political. Not just social sciences, but English class should be political. Literature classes should be political. Mathematics, computer science, engineering classes should be political. According to the neo Marxist, the radical left, they know what they're doing. How does a young dipstick like this guy get so angrily political at that age that he's willing to do something that horrific? Well, it's because he's been indoctrinated over and over, near constantly, you know, depending on where he got his education and what shape it took.

[Joe Getty]

And he's been convinced by these Marxist nutjobs that politics should be at the center of everything you do. And Nick Gillespie of Reason magazine, they're a libertarian outfit. He's one of the most prominent libertarians in America. Nick Gillespie wrote this yesterday. Remember that the genius of America at its best is precisely that it is the place where politics doesn't have to dominate every aspect of your life. Our national proposition is that we are free to live peacefully however we want without permission or coercion. Politics should be the least important part of our lives. Imagine saying that to a room full of college kids. They would think, what are you talking about? Politics should be the least important part of our lives. But it has become a war of all against all because its most fervent practitioners are constantly saying that all of us must live this way or that way. Don't just walk away from the battlefield. Refuse to legitimize it in the first place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Looking to government to solve every single issue and problem we have as people is insane.

[Joe Getty]

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is predicated upon squeezing politics into the smallest corner of our daily lives possible. And we have education K through PhD screaming just the opposite. No, no, no. Everything is political. The, the, the way a stop sign is shaped has got to something to do with white supremacy. I mean, everything is political.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. We, we actually have a great piece of humor on that topic. Maybe we'll play that coming up. But yeah, politics and radical left politics need to be at the center of everything. And a lot of us, James Lindsay on, have been reacting to. Wait a minute. You want to make decolonial basic mathematics? What the F are you talking about? But that's their proposition and I think Nick Gillespie has highlighted it beautifully by expressing the opposite. I'm paraphrasing, but there I read something not too long ago. A very famous Englishman. I can't remember who it was, but said it used to be that an Englishman could go two weeks without being reminded of or bumping up against his government.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now you can't get through an afternoon.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I really like all together. Don't just walk away from the battlefield. Refuse to legitimate it in the first place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, carambo. That's a hell of a fight.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Got breaking news that France is sending some of their best jets to Poland. We should update that story in a little bit because that is still going on and still a really big deal. But we've got this funny list of all the ridiculous things that liberals have tried to cancel over the last few years which gets to them making everything about politics that and other stuff on the way. Stay tuned. Armstrong Getty why would I ever eat chocolate cake? There's no reason for a grown man to ever eat a piece of chocolate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cake except that it's on the list of the 10 best things ever.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but so I was at a dinner last night and had chocolate cake there. So I ate the freaking thing. Felt horrible afterwards. Probably gained 90 pounds. You child. Yes, Katie.

[Katie]

How often do you eat chocolate cake though?

[Joe Getty]

Not very often. But I shouldn't ever treat yourself.

[Katie]

As they say, treat yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got a quick to me, chocolate cake is the cherry on the sundae of life.

[Katie]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you. I'm here all week. Speaking of funny, enjoy this.

[Unknown Comedian]

Liberals saying that Republicans and conservatives are sensitive and that we're canceling everything is the biggest joke. You guys got Aunt Jemima Syrup rebranded to Pearl Milling Company. You pressured them to remove a Native American lady from a Butterbox. You made them remove a black chef from the cream of wheat box who was based off a real person. You made it so Elmer Fudd can't carry his gun in the newer cartoons. You got Eskimo Pies changed to Eddie's pies. Uncle Ben's rice is no longer Uncle Ben's Rice. Now it's just Ben's original. He was everybody's uncle. You got Mr. Potato Head changed to just Potato Head to be more gender inclusive.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty good. That does make you look crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I tell you what. We've received some wonderful eloquent emails on the question and answer of in the wake of the horrible murder of Charlie Kirk how do we carry on his message? How do we proceed? What do we do? And one part of that answer, and I want to get back into that next hour, but one part of that answer is laugh at these people. Mock them. Point out how ridiculous their claims and their demands can be. Band together with people like you. There's an old saying that the one thing a dictator can't take is being laughed at. I mean, you can yell at them, you can protest, and they let you get away with fair amount of that. If you successfully mock the rigid dictators of leftist America, that's when you get them.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of being mocked. So we had a meeting yesterday. We had a zoom meeting with a client. So Joe's on the screen, where he is. We're all in different locations. Because it was long after the show, we're all in different locations. Me, Johansen, and we're doing this zoom meeting, and Joe sends me a text.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

Please stop smiling like that. Please. It's creeping me out. Now. What was that about?

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't. I'm not gonna say that.

[Joe Getty]

You're not?

[Jack Armstrong]

No. You're aware this is being aired, correct?

[Joe Getty]

Well, so. Okay. Did I misinterpret that? I thought you were talking about me. Were you not talking about me?

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's assume I was.

[Katie]

I would assume so because you've been constantly working on your rbf.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, that's what I wanted to talk about. So I have been working on my. And I don't have rbf. I have rmf. Resting, Murdery face. I look like I want to attack you.

[Katie]

It's true.

[Joe Getty]

Correct. Just sitting, walking down the street in a meeting when I'm perfectly happy, I might be, like, nearly ecstatic, but that's just what my face looks like. So I've been practicing this every single day. And I walk down the street with my new face, and it's been. Been received very well, my new face. I can. I can actually tell that I get a different reaction out of people. So during the zoom call yesterday, I was practicing it, and I thought maybe I had taken it too far.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, I will say for the record, because you put me in such a strange position. It was. Hanson Hansen was smiling too much there. Now I'm done talking about it.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, well, I thought it was me. That's why. That's why I brought it up. Okay, so good.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, you absolutely were not.

[Joe Getty]

So I. Did I look normal or did I look that. I look like I had gas?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, it was good. It was. It was good. Because when you don't look like a homicidal maniac. You look like you're bored to death. Yeah. Instead of the quietly attentive face that I've actually worked on with one of my children who is brilliant but easily bored and. Yeah, no, you looked quietly attentive. It was well, well done.

[Joe Getty]

You know, anything beyond I'm like angrily plotting against you. That's what I'm trying to not look like.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, you're, you're definitely on the north side of that. Well done.

[Joe Getty]

How many people try to change their face at age 60? Like I'm making a concerted effort when I catch myself driving down the road. Oh, I'm not doing it because I'm trying to get the muscles. Because that's what it is. It's muscle memory. Yes. I got the mirror in my car pointed at my face now so I can constantly check my facial expression while I'm driving.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've had four head on collisions. But you know, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. But if I have a head on collision or rear get rear ended or whatever, I will approach the driver asking for their insurance card with a pleasant look on my face.

[Jack Armstrong]

Honey, a pleasant, cheerful man just plowed into our car. I'm fine, don't worry.

[Sarah]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Unknown Guest]

Hey, I read that Starbucks is planning to renovate over 1,000 of its stores. They're gonna make some big changes. Here's what some other chains had to say about it. First Panera Bread said, good luck with the update. Then Olive Garden said, can't wait to see your new look. Then Cracker Barrel said, are you out of your mind?

[Joe Getty]

I wonder what they're gonna do. I wonder if it's got anything to do with the bathroom situation. That's just the only reason is on my mind. They still struggle with that in a lot of different places. Homeless people taking over the bathrooms and washing themselves. And Starbucks doesn't want to be kicking out homeless people because I got in trouble for that. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, just woke. Doesn't work. It doesn't work in the real world.

[Joe Getty]

So I know you're not a Starbucks guy. A lot of Starbucks, they have bathrooms, but there's no sink in there or anything like that to wash your hands. And the washing your hands place is kind of out in public, so there's no. You can't like really be a homeless person. Go in there and wash yourself, which is what they want to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like you're at a music festival.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Which is kind of Gross. Because you got to leave the bathroom and touch the room. I'm doing all that stuff. And then go out there and wash your hands.

[Katie]

Yes, Katie, I. I had that experience for the first time recently where it was bathroom stalls and then, like, a communal sink, and all of it was weird. And my husband, Drew felt really uncomfortable because a little girl came out of the bathroom, and he's, like, standing there washing his hands next to her, and he's just like, I don't know. All of it doesn't feel right.

[Joe Getty]

But it's all as a response to. They don't have the freaking guts to say, hey, get out of here. Customers only.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. No junkies taking a bum bath in. In the bathroom. This is our place. It's private property. We say get out. They don't have the. The guts to do that.

[Joe Getty]

Different topic, because these stories, which are huge, kind of got obliterated by the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You still got the Israel Hamas thing going on, right? Israel's clearing out Gaza. And the United nations just had a vote on declaring a state of Palestine. The vote was 142 to 10. The United States voted no, along with Israel, Argentina, Hungarian, a couple other tiny little countries, but 142 to 10 in favor of a state of Palestine, which will never, ever, one more ever happen. Ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct. Yeah. The leadership hasn't wanted it unless it wipes out Israel for three generations.

[Joe Getty]

And it's silly that the meaningless debating society they call the UN continues to push this forward. Marco Rubio actually traveling to Israel as a show of support because they knew this vote was coming and they're expected to be there. The whole contentious debate around the Palestinian state. Marco Rubio wanted to be there at the United States and Israel standing against the idea of a Palestinian state. So there's that story. Then you got the whole Putin testing NATO like he did the other day with drones in Poland. Here's some of that story as reported on CNN yesterday. What number is that? 72. We don't have 72. Okay, well, so in case you don't know that, we talked about it quite a bit the day that it happened. 19, I think, is the number they've settled on drones that went quite a ways into Poland. The thing is that this is after many drones that had gone into Poland, crossing a little bit here, crossing a little bit there, and getting no reaction whatsoever until Finally Russia sent 19 drones, some of them as far as 300 kilometers inside of Poland. That's 180 miles to you and me. That's a long way. As Ian Bremmer points out, that was no mistake of any kind. That was a test to see if there would be a response. Donald Tusk of Poland said we wish that the drone attack on Poland was a mistake. It wasn't and we know it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so the Russian claim was that it's the Ukrainians fault. They use signal jamming and our drones went off kilter. So it was an accident. But authorities like Ian Bremmer and Tusk are saying no way. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

One, a reporter asked Trump about the reaction to that today. This is what he said. What's your reaction to Russian drone incursion into Poland? Could have been a mistake.

[Jack Armstrong]

Could have been a mistake.

[Joe Getty]

But regardless, I'm not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation. But hopefully it's going to come to an end. So he either felt the need to let Russia off the hook or he hasn't been paying attention to the story and hasn't been updated or I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know which he's expressed. I'm not happy with this. I don't like it several times. I don't like how hot it is in August, but I'm not going to do anything about it. I think we're down to the are you going to do anything about it? Stage, sir.

[Joe Getty]

Right. So there's breaking news that France is sending some of their fighter jets to Poland so that they could get involved, if they need to, in shutting down any more of these incursions as Russia tests and sees if NATO will push back 180 miles across the borders quite a ways. And so there was talk yesterday among the European countries of establishing a. I forgot the exact term was it ended in plus, though. It was like border zone plus or something like that. The idea is that this is our border plus. I think it was 60 miles. You get within 60 miles of our border and we shoot you down starting today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah. The idea being if you allow me to swing my fist to within an inch of your nose because I haven't hit you in the nose. Well, the day I decide to break your nose, you'll never be able to defend yourself. So, yeah, there's a buffer zone.

[Joe Getty]

But what do you think Putin was up to? I, I understand the whole testing NATO thing, but if the test had failed, NATO doesn't shoot the drones down and they just get to fly that far into Poland and then cross into Ukraine. What is his ultimate goal? Was he going to attack Poland and try to take them over while he's fighting In Ukraine. That seems like a horrible idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I doubt it. I just think he would. He's constantly calculating and recalculating NATO's will to oppose him in a variety of ways, politically and militarily. And, you know, it might affect the way they maneuver on the ground or in the air. If NATO's response is very, very soft, he would say to his generals, hey, go ahead and fly through this airspace or pull these maneuvers off or whatever you can, because NATO isn't going to do anything about it. I don't know specifically, though it could.

[Joe Getty]

Be partially this angle. We have the clip now, and this is what they brought up on CNN yesterday.

[CNN Reporter]

If I had to speculate, I think they're kind of probing, testing how NATO responds. This drone warfare is the wave of future. And if I look at NATO's response, it's good there was a response. You don't wake up every morning seeing the Dutch defense Minister saying our F35s were in the sky downing Russian drones in NATO airspace. This is totally unprecedented at the same time to use F35's most expensive air platform in the world to take down these really Iranian drones that Russia produces a very cheap, very easy to make. That's not the most cost effective way to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And Putin knows that. So that's part of the whole Putin strategy, which he's been doing in Ukraine for a long time now, is eventually you're going to run out of that super expensive equipment that you've got to shoot these down. And you can't keep sending f. Did you know the Dutch had F35s? The best plane in the world. Obviously they got them from us, but I didn't know that The Dutch has F35s. And they can't be having their best pilots with their best planes out there shooting down drones. I mean, you can't do that endlessly.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, not endlessly. I think it's probably good for training to put these guys into actual hot, you know, situations. But no, whether it's, you know, the F35s or just the Patriot anti missile systems, I mean, we don't have unlimited stockpiles of the ordinance you use in those. So I, I don't, I don't know. It's, it's not a good trend. And to his point and your point, you know, Putin is thinking, hey, we're draining their stockpiles because they don't have the right manufacturing capacity up and running for, for warfare.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, we didn't talk about one of the horrifying attacks. I think maybe because the Charlie Cook assassination had happened. Bunch of old people in line to get their, basically their social, Social Security checks there in Ukraine got obliterated by a missile strike from Russia the other day. And on purpose, because he knows what he's doing. Old people in line killed 25 oldsters standing in line.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, what is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

It was an unmistakably not military target.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was just killing civilians.

[Joe Getty]

Horrifying. Do you think Trump is reaching the end of the road where he's going to do something, sanctions, arm Ukraine, say you can start using these weapons deeper into Russian territory, etc.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I read an account yesterday, the day before that he had really strong armed the Europeans to wean themselves from Russian oil and gas and quit screwing around on that level. And he was also sending strong messages to India about that theme. And one of the things that struck. So he, he is openly pushing for we've got to get more forceful with Putin. But one of my takeaways from that article was, oh, that's right, the Europeans are still buying zillions of dollars worth of Russian energy and financing Putin's war machine. Are you kidding? And I know it's not effortless to rearrange your energy. You know the sources of energy, but.

[Joe Getty]

A neighbor in your backyard is starting to invade countries. You gotta find a different way to do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and you're on the cusp of war with that invader.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't be financing.

[Joe Getty]

It was more than a billion dollars worth of oil that Russia sold to European countries.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It's crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't watch, don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do. I mean, that's true of everybody.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, that's an update on both of those wars, which could turn extra spicy any day. I think it's interesting that Marco Rubio is going to be in Israel to stand side by side with Netanyahu, since we're the only significant no vote on that whole Palestinian state thing. You freaking phonies. It's like being a pacifist. It's just a phony position. It makes you feel good about yourself and you get to brag to your other phony friends like you're a good person. There's not gonna be a Palestinian state.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you, what are you even talking about? I know what we could do. We could get Jimmy Carter and Menachem Begin and Yasser Arafat and Bill Clinton and, and, and I'll have them sit down and Come up with an agreement that gives the Palestinian leadership virtually everything they've asked for. Oh, that's right. We've done that multiple times. And then they reject it at the last second and go back to militancy because they're militant Islamists that want to wipe out Israel and all the Jews. Oh, right, I keep forgetting.

[Joe Getty]

So we get a bunch of other stuff and an update on the scumbag murderer that they caught and everything else. Stay tuned.

[Unknown Guest]

Armstrong and Getty Uber said that as soon as next year, users will be able to book helicopters on the app. I guess it's a good idea, although it's a little worrying to hear I'm drunk.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody call me a helicopter.

[Unknown Guest]

I gotta get chopper out of here.

[Joe Getty]

What would a helicopter cost to rent? That's your level of rich. You got don't fly, you drive. You've got fly coach, then you've got fly first class, then you've got fly private, then you've got take a helicopter to the airport to fly product.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those are your levels of rich. And then you own the jet, right?

[Joe Getty]

Own plane.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's your apex. Yes. That reminds me, I got to get my jet serviced anyway. Would that it were what did it were. So I have a very carefully constructed and informative discussion of how a couple of different foundations and their policies led directly to that poor Ukrainian girl being murdered in Charlotte. How that works and what can be done against it. But it's too damn serious. I'm not in the mood.

[Joe Getty]

Gotcha.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that will be put in the refrigerator for next hour or another day because it will remain incredibly important. But this instead.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I gotta. Gotta throw this in real quick. Have to. A bunch of people have pointed out something, Joe pointed out during commercials that sometimes when I'm trying to say Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I say Charlie Cook, who's also a conservative pundit. That is somewhat controversial. Charlie Cook is alive. Charlie Kirk has been assassinated.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just a. Charles C.W. cook remains among us.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank God. Yes. So blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Instead this. Are protein bars actually good for you or are they just glorified candy bars?

[Joe Getty]

Well, when I read the label, a lot of the. They did a great job of taking a regular candy bar, putting a label on it that is like a natural sort of color and maybe a stalk of wheat on there. And you fool me that instead of a cartoon character is a stock of wheat, that I'm eating something healthy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And that's all it takes for a lot of us. Yeah, you're so right. The, the long story short, and man, they milked this for a lot of words. Long story short is a lot of them have added sugar and a lot of them are hyper processed. What's it, what's the term, everybody? Ultra processed. Ultra processed foods with all sorts of ingredients you've never heard of in your life. A bunch of added sugar. And look for ones that have as little sugar as possible and as simple a list of ingredients as possible. And I've got a couple I like that are very much that I went.

[Joe Getty]

The other direction when I realized that these energy bars I was eating were basically just candy bars. I just thought, what the hell? Then I just get a Snickers, I need a little pick me up energy. I just eat a freaking Snickers bar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So, but one of the other takeaways that I thought was interesting is they talked to a handful of nutritionists and they're all saying the same thing. You'd have to search high and low to find an American who actually needs more protein than they're getting.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, really? Now that's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have a quite a good protein rich diet available to us. So unless you're a vegan or somebody who's just had a really, really strenuous workout, you're probably fine. Protein.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I didn't know that about protein. I knew that about all your various vitamins and everything like that. I've known that for many, many years. Unless you have an extreme diet, you're getting the maximum your body can take of almost all the vitamins anyway. Any extra you take, you're just peeing them out, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

So I think, you know, the bottom line is what's been the bottom line for a very long time. Avoid excessive sugar and added sugar. Protein and fat stick with you longer, satiate your hunger longer. So as long as it's in reasonable amounts, you know, do that. Protein's good, but you probably don't need much more than you're getting. Look for natural ingredients and less sugar.

[Joe Getty]

My favorite thing I came across the other day, the big giant study that said, and it had technical terms for calorie surplus. If you take in more calories than you burn every day, you gain weight. If you take in fewer calories than you burn every day, you, you lose weight. The end. According to some nutritionists, that's the end. So I just, according to all of them, I just been trying to take in fewer calories than I'm burning. That's what I'm trying.

[Jack Armstrong]

So one of the nutritionists says, you might consider opting for a different snack that's just as portable and nutritious. Like grapes, a banana, an apple or yogurt with berries. Another doctor suggests a handful of nuts and or tuna or hard boiled eggs. Which is why I carry a tuna fish around with me. The whole thing carried by the tail. Every time I'm hungry, I take a bite out of it like I'm Gollum in the Lord of the Rings. It's delicious and low sugar.

[Joe Getty]

I have a sack hbes I carry everywhere I go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hard boiled eggs are a great snack.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you anti hard boiled? No, no, no. You're just soft on them.

[Joe Getty]

Ironically, I don't like peeling them. Yeah, I find that annoying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Heels back with my idiotic attempted.

[Katie]

No, I liked that a lot. Soft on the hard boiled egg. Well played.

[Jack Armstrong]

It does not really. It does take a minute to peel them, but. So you eat a Snickers bar instead. Well, there's no helping you then. And I give up. What I.

[Joe Getty]

What I find depressing is I ride my bike, my new bike. I go out for a bike ride, do a bunch of miles and everything like that. Really feel like I kicked my ass. And then, you know. You burned off like 180 calories. Yeah, like a half a donut.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey Katie, want a bite of my tuna fish?

[Katie]

Always love some tuna. If you take a hard boiled egg and put it in Tupperware and shake it up real good, it helps get a lot of the cracks off and makes it easier to peel.

[Joe Getty]

Fun fact. Thank thanks for that hard boiled egg life hack right at the end of the hour. If you miss a segment with other great facts like that, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I heart podcast.