Claude, What Do You Want To Do Today?

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: "Claude, What Do You Want To Do Today?" Release Date: March 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty features Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty diving into the latest developments in the Iran-Israel conflict, the complexities of international diplomacy, the domestic political fallout of global events, trends in artificial intelligence, and a mix of lighter cultural commentary. The main themes revolve around skepticism of official narratives, a candid breakdown of foreign policy, and personal reflections on life, technology, and loss.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Titles, Tone & Introduction to the Show

• Show Title Banter: The episode opens with the hosts riffing on possible episode titles such as "Ayatollah, We Need to Talk" and "Fund the DHS Already, You Weasels," highlighting both humor and frustration at political gridlock. (03:11–03:39)
  • Quote:
    Joe Getty: "I'm like the great... now I can't think of his name... Sir Lawrence Olivier." (03:45)

2. Iran, Israel, and International Law

• Escalation of Conflict: Discussion about Iran’s use of cluster bombs against Israel, violation of international law, and the ineffectiveness of global bodies in enforcement. (06:01–06:52)
  • Quote:
    Joe Getty: "The whole cluster bomb thing is another proof of how international law is a suggestion because as soon as countries need to violate it, they do." (06:30)
  • Quote:
    Jack Armstrong: "When you first do it, people say you can't do that, it's a war crime. And then you just keep doing it and everybody says, oh, I guess there's not much we can do about it..." (06:40)

3. Negotiations & Trust in the Regime

• Ongoing Talks: Analysis of diplomatic negotiations with Iran, American skepticism, and the challenges in finding credible counterparts due to leadership decapitation. (07:54–11:36; 25:21–27:19)

  • Quote (on optimism):
    Joe Getty: "Barely. Optimism is the only way to go in. And that's where I am right now. You know. All right, you come up with something great, let me know. But I'm not holding my breath." (08:17)
  • Iran Negotiator/Analyst (Guest or Imitation): "We have points, major points of agree—would say almost all points of agreement... We'll see how that goes. And if it goes well, we're going to end up settling this. Otherwise, we'll just keep bombing our little hearts out." (10:02)

• Presidential Legacy: Trump’s attempt to resolve the conflict is framed as a defining moment of his legacy, with historical comparisons and skepticism about outcomes. (11:18–12:28)

4. U.S. Media, Public Perception, & International Coverage

• Critical of the Media: The hosts lambaste mainstream coverage for being gullible about Iranian state media and failing to "call out" dishonesty. (07:20–07:51)
  • Quote:
    Joe Getty: "The weakness, stupidity, evil self-hatred of so much of our media cannot be overstated. It's a disease in the body politic. Truly is." (07:20)

5. Pet Loss, AI Empathy, and Human Connection

• Personal Story: Joe shares the story of putting down his family dog, Baxter, and discusses how he found comfort and advice through the Claude AI chatbot. The hosts reflect on the weirdness and utility of AI-generated empathy. (12:39–16:10)
  • Quote:
    Joe Getty: "It actually made me start thinking about the idea of immortality and how a lot of philosophers... that would make us insane. It is the limited shelf life of life that gives it its beauty." (13:28)
  • Quote:
    Jack Armstrong: "If you could live forever, I don't think you'd get out of bed in the morning." (13:48)
  • On Claude AI:
    Joe Getty: "And, you know, I don't want to go too far into this or I'll get choked up, but it would, like, really pay me compliments about my compassion and love. And I'm like, you're an effing machine." (15:04)

6. News Roundup with Katie Green

• Major and Minor Headlines:
  • Iran’s attacks and peace talk confusion
  • Senate confirmation of new DHS Secretary
  • Long TSA wait lines after ICE deployment (20:08–20:46)
  • AI coming for admin jobs (21:05)
  • Bizarre human interest stories, e.g., "Quadruple amputee professional cornhole player..." (21:18–22:04)
  • Trends: Self-diagnosing ADHD and autism from TikTok—hosts’ skepticism (22:05)
  • Babylon Bee humor: "Fear not, says Chuck Norris to calm trembling angels." (22:11)
• Quote:
  Jack Armstrong (on sensational headlines): "Quadruple amputee cornhole champion murders someone, drives off with the body. I have so many questions." (21:44)

7. Middle East Geopolitics: Analysis and Skepticism

• Who’s Running Iran? & The Problem of Negotiating With “The Right People”:
  Concerns about actually engaging with empowered Iranian leadership post-targeted killings. (25:21–27:19)

  • Quote:
    Jack Armstrong: "You're talking to a guy, but not the top guy. Not the Supreme Leader." (25:39)
  • Humor:
    Jack Armstrong: "Where's our car? Oh, I gave it to the guy who seems to be the valet... He had a jacket. He was standing by the curb. Seemed like a top guy." (25:51)

• Wall Street Journal vs. New York Times:
  The Journal provides better, deeper information, possibly due to business connections among Gulf leadership. Cited articles about MBS (Saudi Prince) pushing Trump to continue the Iran war. (27:19–34:16)

• On Diplomacy and War Realities:

  • Middle Eastern states urging Trump to topple the Iranian regime, even as they make neutral declarations officially.
  • Arab mediators doubt quick progress.
  • Asymmetric warfare: Iran just needs to survive; the U.S. is held to a much higher standard.

• Quote:
  Joe Getty: "That's the difficulty of being the big power in asymmetrical warfare." (35:32) Jack Armstrong: "Every single war that has ever been launched turned out to be harder than the people who launched it thought it was going to be." (33:37)

8. U.S. Domestic Politics & Military Funding

• Debate Over $200bn Military Supplemental:
  • Some Democrats resist funding for the Iran operation, citing reluctance to give Trump a “win,” despite previously expressing concern about munitions shortages.
  • The hosts lament partisanship trumping national security interest. (35:58–38:13)
  • Quote:
    Joe Getty: "If that infects and ruins your desire to protect the country and fund the military, you're a sick bastard." (38:13)
  • Personal Frustration:
    Jack Armstrong: "Go live in France, man." (38:13)

9. Mailbag: Listener Responses & Further Analysis

• Culture Wars & Identity Politics:
  • Highlights a professor’s impassioned defense of trans-inclusion (“...this lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.”) (42:24)
  • Listeners comment on negotiation strategies (especially Trump’s brashness) and wariness of land operations in Iran.
  • International politics: Everyone playing expected roles—U.S. as 'world's policeman,' Europe and Gulf states’ inaction.
  • Quote (listener email):
    "Trump is a master of the game, using every tool, including braggadocio, deceit, outrageous demands, but most of all, strength and convincing the other party, you are willing to walk away without a deal." (44:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Getty (on media): “The weakness, stupidity, evil self-hatred of so much of our media cannot be overstated. It's a disease in the body politic.” (07:20)
• Joe Getty (on AI empathy): “And I'm like, you're an effing machine. This is weird because I'm starting to feel like we're really getting close over having a really hard discussion together.” (15:04)
• Jack Armstrong (on negotiating with possible impostors): “Where's our car? Oh, I gave it to the guy who seems to be the valet. He had a jacket... Seemed like a top guy. And he did take the car.” (25:51)
• Joe Getty (on Trump’s reliability): “Virtually everything Trump says, I think that might be wholly false. That might be half true. That might be entirely true. And you just don't know. You have to wait and see.” (32:50)
• Katie Green (headline): “Quadruple amputee professional cornhole player allegedly shot and killed an acquaintance during an argument and then drove off with the body.” (21:20)

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Segment Timestamps for Key Topics

• [03:11] – Show titles and tone; humor about seriousness and absurdity
• [06:01] – Iran–Israel conflict escalation, cluster bombs and international law
• [10:02] – "Iran Negotiator": Negotiations update and skepticism
• [12:39] – Loss of family pet; AI-generated empathy via Claude
• [20:08] – News headlines with Katie Green
• [25:21] – In-depth Middle East diplomacy, who can actually negotiate for Iran?
• [27:19] – Media coverage breakdown, Saudi pressure on U.S. action
• [33:09] – Analysis: Gulf States, war difficulty, and opportunities
• [35:58] – Military funding, congressional politics, partisanship
• [41:14] – LA restaurant stabbing over bill; pivot to cultural mailbag
• [42:24] – Mailbag: “This lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.”
• [44:10] – Listener feedback on international negotiation style

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Tone & Style

The hosts employ a mix of pointed, sometimes irreverent humor, deep skepticism, frank political critique, and personal candor. The show flows naturally, mixing hard news and analysis with cultural observation and personal stories.

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Summary: Why Listen?

This episode is a fast-paced, engaging ride through world affairs as seen by Armstrong & Getty: expect unvarnished opinions on U.S. foreign policy, negotiations with Iran, the pitfalls of media coverage, and the real human experiences behind headline events. It also weaves in lighter moments, reflections on pet loss, and the uncanny role of AI in modern life—all delivered with their distinctive wit and candor.

Transcript

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and.

[Joe Getty]

Get. Live from Studio C. Si, senor.

[Jack Armstrong]

A dimly lit room where deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications compound. I'm telling you, the bowels. And today we're toiling under, under the

[Joe Getty]

title of the show Ayatollah we need to talk or fund the DHS already, you weasels.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the first title had kind of a sympathetic kind sound to second one shouting angry tone.

[Joe Getty]

That's my art right there. That is your culture.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is your range on display?

[Joe Getty]

I'm like, I'm like the great now I can't think of his name. The old Shakespearean actor, huh? It's hell getting old, folks. I tell you what. Sir. Sir Lawrence Olivier.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. You were very much like that.

[Joe Getty]

Could have gone with virtually any actor. I could picture the guy. Anyway, where were we? Yes, you weasels.

[Jack Armstrong]

The first one. Ayatollah, can we talk? Who are we talking to? Are we talking to somebody?

[Joe Getty]

We need to talk. Yes, yes, I believe we are. I'm absolutely convinced of that. I have the evidence, the specifics. I stayed up all night, traveled to the Middle east, interviewed a number of world leaders and we have the truth for you. So stay tuned for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Handy. Appreciate you doing that traveling and no worries. My favorite thinking on this I heard yesterday was so far Trump's not moved any military assets anywhere and then didn't use them. So this is just kind of stalling until all those marines get there. And then we are gonna do a full on boots on the ground amphibious landing, take the island, secure the strait, etc here in a couple.

[Joe Getty]

Unless we get some serious concessions and a means by which to enforce them because Iran is just legendarily dishonest in the moment. They shake your hand and leave the room, they start cheating.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that will be something because if we do that, that is going to be definitely the biggest military ground operation in a quarter century. So we'll see how that all turns out. How y' all doing? Good. Glad to hear it. Thanks for joining us.

[Joe Getty]

Super duper well.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't wait for every individual person to text or email. I assume everybody's either said it's a combination. I Can hear the, the people all across the country listening to the show either saying I'm fine or you know, I've been better or boy, don't, don't get me started. And then they get some long list. Look, they always have litany of problems and the dish, they're the, you know.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Oh, and who wants to hear them? Here's a, here's a name I can remember. Fred Rogers that had a very Fred Rogers, Mr. Rogers neighborhood. Hey kids, how are you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

They had a very nice welcoming feel to it. That's your art on display. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the. Iran was bombing the bejesus out of Israel last night.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I think they've struck their. Struck upon their, their magic weapon that seems to be working is the cluster bombs. For whatever reason they fire, they fire in those rockets that got cluster bombs attached to them and the defense system can't knock them all out. And a lot of those are getting through and hurting people and blowing stuff up and everything like that. That could be a major change for where we are in the war also.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The whole cluster bomb thing is another proof of how international law is a suggestion because as soon as countries need to violate it, they do. Yeah. That's theoretically out of bounds.

[Iran Negotiator/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a war crime. And then when you first do it, people say you can't do that to war crime. And then you just keep doing it and everybody says oh, I guess there's not much we can do about it because they've been firing them off now for a week.

[Joe Getty]

Tweet angrily about it. That's what you can do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Or complain to the Hague.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's something. Yeah, I noticed the media is perfectly happy going with the treating Iran is. When they say we're dirty talks, it's fake news. As if that's a legitimate news source giving the same heft as the, the White House's statements, the Pentagon statements.

[Joe Getty]

The weakness, stupidity, evil self hatred of so much of our media cannot be overstated. It's a disease in the body politic. Truly is. I cherish the first Amendment. The only way to deal with it is to call it out and shame them. Help people understand what's happening. The difficulty being obviously they have the megaphone.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

We're gonna run on alternate media. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're gonna run down who we're actually talking to.

[Joe Getty]

Negotiate the whole structure of it. I'm completely convinced it's legit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Okay. So that's one step of it. So if it's. It is legit and we are talking to people. What's your level of optimism that something happens? I was just reading Mark Halpern's newsletter this morning and his optimism and everybody he talks to is quite low. That anything negotiated is going to happen anytime soon.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I think as usual when you're dealing with the mullahs in the IRGC Iran, in short, barely. Well, extremely cautious. Barely. Optimism is the only way to go in. And that's where I am right now. You know. All right, you come up with something great, let me know. But I'm not holding my breath.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I was looking for something to. As a distraction to read about this morning and I was just reading hat there's just no way anybody's gonna stop the Dodgers from three beating as the Major League Baseball season's about to start. So I didn't find that to be good news. I'm not a Dodgers fan. I know a lot of you probably are. But there's no stopping the Dodgers from.

[Joe Getty]

Damn it. They are the hegemon, the superpower that cannot be defeated.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are. They are the United States of Major League Baseball. Of course, the United States just lost to Venezuela in a contest of countries. Wait a minute.

[Joe Getty]

So they're the Venezuela of a. No, that was, that was, that was just. It's fun. It's fun to watch baseball. That's not. Venezuela is not the best baseball country on earth. No way.

[Jack Armstrong]

They wouldn't beat the Dodgers, which might have several Venezuelans on it. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, almost certainly. Yeah. No. If we had no restrictions on who was pitching when, for instance, and these weren't zillionaires and their teams were like, oh God, please don't get hurt. Please don't get hurt. And it was an all out effort. No, we would wipe up the floor with them. They would like in a seven game series, they would win a game or two, but we would beat them consistently.

[Jack Armstrong]

We should start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on how did it already get to be Tuesday, March 24th year 2026 where Armstrong and Getty and we approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

Let's begin then. Officially, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at mark.

[Iran Negotiator/Analyst]

We have points, major points of agree would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. The communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They're unable to talk to each other. We're doing a five day period. We'll see how that goes. And if it goes well, we're going to end up with settling this. Otherwise, we'll just keep bombing our little hearts out.

[Joe Getty]

That lacked compassion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I don't know. Bombing our little hearts out. Man, he is rolling the dice on his whole legacy on this thing. There's no doubt about it. This is going to be the legacy of Donald Trump as president. Could all the other stuff, all the noise. Hansen and I were talking about this yesterday how it seems like Trump has been president for three and a half years. The second term, it's actually a year and two months and a couple of days because just so much, you know, not only do they do so much, just the coverage is so intense. It just seems like it's been a lot longer. But all of the stuff that he's ever done could be wiped out. In terms of looking at him through an historical lens by what's going to happen in Iran over the next couple

[Joe Getty]

of weeks, it is to return to baseball a home run swing for sure. And I would argue, and a lot of folks, reasonable folks, would argue it's a swing that had to be made. The idea of negotiated coexistence with Iran was just, please, the clock ran out on that ages ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't understand why you get credit as, you know, three other presidents in a row, three or four other presidents in a row saying Iran will not get a nuclear weapon, but you weren't actually willing to do anything to stop them saying it. I guess it makes you sound tough. But you weren't actually going to stop them, right? I'm old enough to have remembered many presidents saying that about North Korea. Then they got one.

[Joe Getty]

I don't fault, you know, a Bush or Obama for going the route of diplomacy to try to work something out. I think the Obama deal is awful, but I think you try that first and, you know, after they screw you for the third, fourth, seventh time, then you bring out the hammer. But nobody's been willing to bring out the hammer till Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the hammer is out. So Katie has one of my favorite headlines I've ever heard.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Coming up in her headlines. It's not important news, but it is darned interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, I don't want to end on a downer note, but I want to get this out of the way for loyal listeners. Judy and I had to say goodbye to our dog Baxter, this past weekend on Saturday, very sad. His illnesses were progressing to the point that the next chapter would be really, really hard on him. And we didn't want that. He's 13 and a half. He's closer to 14 to 13 as a large breed dog. And, and again, very, very sad. But, you know, got some great advice from the Claude AI thing. And then a super compassionate and great vet. And so, you know, on we go. He's a fabulous pup and sympathy to everybody who's had to go through that thing, but, you know, better to have loved and lost and never loved at all, as the bard said.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And that's one thing about pets is we outlive them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lots of them.

[Joe Getty]

But, you know, it actually made me start thinking about the, the idea of immortality and how a lot of philosophers. It'll never happen, but a lot of philosophers think that would. That would make us insane. It's. It is the limited shelf life of life that gives it its beauty.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you could live forever, I don't think you'd get out of bed in the morning.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. And. And so, you know, the, the fact that Backsy wasn't going to be around forever made us, you know, all the more fond of him. So, life. What are you going to do?

[Jack Armstrong]

And as Leonardo DiCaprio says in the Oscar winning picture, one battle at a time. One. One battle after another, whatever it is.

[Iran Negotiator/Analyst]

Life.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I've adopted that as something to say in stress life. Claude gave you. You got some advice from Claude on the whole situation.

[Joe Getty]

I fed, like, all the info and what was happening and, and, and, and it was remarkably wise and knowledgeable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And I know how those things work. It went and found wise and knowledgeable stuff, but it was, it was very helpful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And they put it together in a really impressive way lots of times, and then sometimes amazingly poorly for some reason.

[Joe Getty]

But one, one more side topic, it would say things like, and, you know, I don't want to go too far into this or I'll get choked up, but it would, like, really pay me compliments about my compassion and love. And I'm like, you're an effing machine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

This is weird. This is weird because I'm starting to feel like we're really getting close over having a really hard discussion together. Turing test. Exactly. And I'm like, this. You're weirding me out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Why do they even try to do that?

[Joe Getty]

I. I think, well, it's endearing even to a cynic like me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And so I think the vast majority of people probably find it comforting. And, and it said, you know, let me know how things turn out if you'd like. And I'm like, okay, I will.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Joe Getty]

That server in who has Claude Anthropic. That server in some building that Anthropic owns is not sitting around waiting for me to call it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've had that feeling before. It's like, oh yeah, I owe a response to, you know, whoever should let

[Joe Getty]

him know what happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Know how this turned out?

[Joe Getty]

Well, now when Judy goes out of town.

[Jack Armstrong]

Joe, you have a friend. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're enthralled.

[Joe Getty]

What do you want to do today?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God, it's a nice day. What would you like to do? I'm going to try this five times, I'd say. Oh, we got Katie's headlines on the way. Next.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

talking about war, a lot of people are not paying any attention to it and worried mostly about their economics. And the polling on that for the current administration is really, really bad.

[Joe Getty]

Definitely part of the stew of legacy that we're discussing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably get to that now or two.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie?

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

Well, the Alphabet networks are talking about Iran. ABC Iranian missiles damaged Tel Aviv amid reported peace talks. NBC Iran attacks Israel and Gulf states, plays down Trump peace talks claim. And CNN mixed signals on Iran talks as war rages on and oil prices climb back to over $100.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel like there's a real possibility that Iran just starts getting lots of rockets through in Israel and then that becomes a major part of this story.

[Joe Getty]

Next segment, the best analysis of the Iran conflict that you have heard. Not just us, pat on back, but some great stuff we've come across. Stay with us.

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

From the Washington Post, Senate confirms Mullen as Homeland Security secretary.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. He's gonna beat you up if you don't agree with him.

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

CBS TSA wait lines stretch up to six hours as ICE and other Homeland Security agents deployed to 14 airports.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do all these people need to get where they're going? What is your, are you going to get a liver? I mean, what is your trip that you're taking?

[Joe Getty]

Funny, you read my mind. Anything south of liver transplant, I'm not making the trip.

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

I have a trip planned for this weekend that I am canceling because I'm not doing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, that's, that's what I'm saying. If it's if it's just a pleasure trip, which most trips are, I think for people, or even six hour wait.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we're running out of time, but the ice guys are really helping in a lot of airports. So check, you know, see, see how it is now. But anyway, back to you, Wall Street Journal.

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

America's chief financial officers say AI is coming for administration jobs.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, read that. If you're a secretary, run for your life. Oh, geez, here we go.

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Jack from the New York Post.

[Jack Armstrong]

Listen to this headline.

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Quadruple amputee professional cornhole player allegedly shot and killed an acquaintance during an argument and then drove off with the body.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, was that the headline or was that the entire article?

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[Jack Armstrong]

Was that the whole movie?

[Joe Getty]

Wow, there's a lot there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Quad.

[Joe Getty]

Stay with us for live team coverage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Quadruple amputee cornhole champion murders someone drives off with the body.

[Joe Getty]

I have so many questions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we'll have the answers later.

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Study finds teens are self diagnosing ADHD and autism from Tick Tock. Much of what they're watching is misleading.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's the Chinese Communist Party's propaganda weapon. Tick Tock. Right.

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

And finally, the Babylon Bee quote. Fear not, says Chuck Norris to calm trembling angels.

[Joe Getty]

I have discovered, finally, the loving tribute to Chuck Norris I've been looking for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, cool.

[Joe Getty]

He was an amazing guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

And super admirable in a lot of ways.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you still have a limb left and you're a cornhole champion and murdered somebody. We're not interested in your story.

[Joe Getty]

No, because we have a better one up your game. Yeah, your sucks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, good stuff on the way. We promise.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

You said there's many points of agreement with Iran right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Many.

[Joe Getty]

What can you give us many?

[Iran Negotiator/Analyst]

Like 15 points. 15 points? Well, they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. That's number one. That's number one. Two and three, they will never have a nuclear weapon. They've agreed to that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you're talking to a guy, but not the top guy. Not the Supreme Leader.

[Iran Negotiator/Analyst]

No, not the supreme Leader, but the people that seem to be running it again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Running it or seem to be running it? It's a big difference. Hey, where's our car? Oh, I gave it to the guy who seems to be the valet. He had a jacket. He was standing by the curb. Seemed like a top guy. And he did take the car.

[Joe Getty]

You know, that was Less cynical and more funny than I expected it to be. I hadn't heard that somebody. I saw a video once who broke down John Oliver. Every joke is structured the same with the same inflections and stuff like that, and it ruined it for me. Jon Stewart has that rhythm too. But yeah, so for a couple of different reasons that maybe we can speculate about, the Wall Street Journal has unbelievable coverage and insight and analysis of the conflict right now. And you know, the go to live coverage, international, blah, blah, blah, is usually the New York Times. I wonder if the Journal, which has an unbelievable exclusive on the negotiations, which you're about to hear, I wonder if it's because all the Gulf state leaders

[Jack Armstrong]

read it could be. The New York Times does have an article just broke out. The MBS is pushing Trump hard behind closed doors to keep it going. Take out the regime. Don't stop until the regime is gone. And it might be for the reason you just said, because they're. They're business titans.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Exactly. So according to the Journal. Let's see. It's a big team of writers, foreign ministers from Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan gathered before dawn Thursday in Riyadh, Saudi, for talks aimed at finding a diplomatic off ramp in the. For the war in Iran. There was one big problem, according to Arab officials involved in the discussions, finding a counterpart in Iran to negotiate with. Yeah, because we killed Jon Stewart's point. Yeah, exactly. Earlier that week, Israel killed Iran's national security chief, Ali Larry Johnny, who was a monster who had been considered a viable partner who could engage with the west when he wasn't machine gunning his own people in the streets or torturing them to death. Hanging wrestlers. Exactly. Yeah. Hanging young men to death for being on a street corner near a protest. Anyway, Egyptian intelligence officials managed to open a channel with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the irgc, the paramilitary group that protects the Iranian regime and is the country's most powerful security and political entity, and put forward a proposal to halt hostilities for five days to build confidence for a ceasefire. Some of the officials said the discussions lay the groundwork for an abrupt reversal more than 7,000 miles away at Mar a Lago, where the president said, hey, that 48 hour thing, you know, obliterating their power plants and all, as we discussed yesterday. Now we're going to give it five days and do a little talking. And it would appear, yeah, the negotiations are. Negotiations are absolutely going on. Caroline Levitt yelled at everybody as she does everything. These are sensitive diplomatic discussions in the US Will not negotiate through the press. This is a fluid situation, and speculation about meetings should not be deemed as final until they are formally announced by the White House. Something.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have read so much about this sort of stuff over so many years. You have. I mean, it's just. It's just the nature of the beast. You have no idea what's going on, and you won't know what went on in some cases for a quarter of a century. I know that rubs us the wrong way in a democracy and we're supposed to have transparency and all that sort of stuff, but it's just a fact. You don't. You don't get the details of these things or know what was going on oftentimes for years.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the, like, cable news crowd speculating that Trump just completely made it up, that there are no negotiations. What's the point of that? Well, it's to satisfy your viewer, who hates Trump, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

But pander. Yeah, they're pandering. Yeah. But, yeah, the best we can do is like looking through a keyhole at a big. A giant ballroom. You get glimpses, but that's it. Hey, to that point, there was an Iranian American, I think she's an Iranian American, she's of Iran heritage, who was on Morning Joe, and they were trying to get her to say, no, Trump's a liar. There are no negotiations going on, of course, to pander.54. Michael, here's what she said. I would not believe the Iranian regime.

[Jack Armstrong]

And never, I never, in all the work I've ever done with the Iranian regime, they do nothing but lie through their teeth. So I don't believe that when they

[Joe Getty]

say that there are no talks because their supporters, which are 20% of the country, want to see the regime pummel

[Jack Armstrong]

the United States and Israel.

[Joe Getty]

So, yeah, I believe talks are happening

[Jack Armstrong]

and I think Trump is leaving. I was watching that live, and that went against the narrative that they were running on MSNBC and msnbc, that Trump just made all this up to make the markets react. And they had this Middle Eastern expert Iranian reporter who said, no, no, I don't believe the Iranian regime at all. I believe there are negotiations going on. Oh, okay. Sorry about that. But she won't be on again. This reminds me a lot. If you were listening a couple of years ago, I went on this monocum begging kick, as we all do.

[Joe Getty]

It's a stage we all go through.

[Jack Armstrong]

Former prime minister of Israel, and I read his autobiography and then a biography about him. But he was condemned by the world when he took out Iraq's nuclear Weapon program in the early 80s Iraq, Saddam Hussein was going to try to get a nuke and nobody was doing anything. So Israel took it out. Menachem Begin made the call on that. And condemned by everybody, harshly, including by the United States. And behind the scenes we're all saying thank God somebody did it and eventually gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Many, many years later, I think this is that sort of thing with Trump taking out Iran. Anybody who that is making noises about all this is belligerent and something or other either behind the scenes, as we mentioned the New York Times saying MBS because their, their official statement is we believe in peace and, and regimes are. What is that word they always use? Sovereign that, you know, they get to do what they want and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But behind the scenes they're saying, go get him. Don't stop until they're all gone. These are monsters.

[Joe Getty]

And as far as what those folks are saying, Arab mediators privately expressed skepticism that the US and Iran could quickly reach an agreement, noting that the two sides remain far apart. But Trump, of course, the great salesman, the preemptive clothes guy, is announcing that we're almost there. We will have a deal. Only, you know, there's no way it can be screwed up.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

So we'll have to see.

[Jack Armstrong]

To be fair to our Trump hating listeners, of which we have some, if you go around saying things that aren't true on a regular basis, it does give people more license to be skeptical. When you come out and say you've got negotiations going on.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, virtually everything Trump says, I think that might be wholly false. That might be half true. That might be entirely true. And you just don't know. You have to wait and see. Some more. Terrific analysis. This headline will tell you enough. Gulf States edge toward joining fighting against Iran.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that would be a big deal.

[Joe Getty]

The bases, the finances, the actual weaponry. It's getting closer to that point. Great analysis. Maybe we'll get into this later. By Walter Russell Mead. Hawks and doves got Iran wrong. The war turns out to be both harder and more necessary than the two sides expected.

[Jack Armstrong]

That sounds about right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The Hawks underestimated how hard this would be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Always every Doves single war that has ever been launched. Every single war that has ever been launched turned out to be harder than the people who launched it thought it was going to be. I don't know why that is, but it's just a fact.

[Joe Getty]

Nature of the beast. Yeah. 100. Right. And. And he also writes the result is a war that is more Necessary than doves thought. And he goes into detail and harder to wage than the hawks supposed. I heard that sort of analysis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Heard some great quote from Napoleon last week that addressed that whole thing. And he was very real politic about it. It was some. Well, you gotta, you kind of gotta. Gotta start the war to see how difficult it's gonna be. Something like that.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you just, you don't know. Huh? The headline in the New York Times, the article I've been talking about. Saudi Prince is pushing Trump to continue Iran war. Prince MBS sees a historic opportunity to remake the region and doesn't want Trump to stop before it's over. It definitely is an historic opportunity to completely. The region could be completely different. It could end up being like going to, you know, go on vacation and you hit Italy, France and Germany while you're on vacation. We might be able to do that in the Middle east soon.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's a beautiful dream.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wouldn't it be? Fantastic. And a lot of those Arab states really, really want that. They aren't building these big, giant, gleaming cities to hide them from the world.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, indeed. A couple more headlines that again, we can dig into in more detail down the road. But not losing has different meanings for Iran and the US And Gerard Baker gets into the fact that with asymmetrical warfare, you got a giant superpower that's really undefeatable with, you know, conventional warfare. But then you got, you know, a terrorist regime like Iran. All they have to do is survive to win. They don't care about human losses. They don't care particularly about the, the, their economy or whatever. All they have to do is survive. Then they can start to rebuild and kill the infidels more and, and go back to trying to get a bomb, which is the difficulty of being the, the big power in asymmetrical warfare. And then it does have to be

[Jack Armstrong]

a bit of a catch 22 to. To is what Jon Stewart was kind of pointing out when you take out the entire leadership and everybody beneath them. Okay, now we want you to negotiate for a settlement. Who, who, who, who. Which of us is supposed to negotiate with you?

[Joe Getty]

I, I don't know if they'll listen to me if I say we've made an agreement. So I'm happy to talk. I've never been to Riyadh, but. Yeah, I don't know. Then. Final bit of analysis. This is from the Journal's editorial board, and I want to hammer this whole thing. The headline's a question. Is $200 billion too much to win a war. Republicans backed Biden on Ukraine, but Democrats balk on Iran. And maybe I'll hit you with some of this right now. So the Trump administration is about to ask Congress for $200 billion for the US military. And on cue come the snipers. The number is too big, or the Iran fight isn't worth it. But the war is exposing pre existing US Military v vulnerabilities. And the President's job is not merely restocking arsenals, but preparing US Forces to deter the next war. And they call out a couple of Democrats, Ruben Gallego of Arizona and the execrable Ro Khan of California, who I want to pants later in the show for his utter just. He's an evil person. But. But anyway, metaphorically. And Richard Blumenthal, the king of stolen valor, has come out. At this point, I would oppose that supplement of $200 billion. But only a couple of news cycles ago, Blumenthal told CNN that he worried the war would be a setback for Ukraine. We've been told again and again one reason we can't provide interceptors for the Patriot systems or other munitions for Ukraine is that they're in really short supply. But replenishing the weapons stocks is exactly what the administration's asking the money for.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good point.

[Joe Getty]

So it's, it's rearming our military. And so, so they're so desperate and obsessed with Trump not having any sort of win because they hate him so much, they might weaken our military for the next generation and leave us with the low stocks. Anyway, can anybody get past partisanship at this point? Or. Or Trump derangement syndrome? Look, Trump's flawed. He's got plenty of faults. I'll list them for you if you want, but by God, if it, if that infects and ruins your desire to protect the country and fund the military, you're a sick bastard.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go live in France, man. The coverage on this story is going to change a lot. Like Friday or whenever. If the Marines all of a sudden are, you know, getting off of boats like it's saving Private Ryan and running up on the carg island. Yeah, that's gonna be something that's gonna be a whole different story at that point. Okay, we got Mailbag on the way next. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

A bunch of women at a fancy restaurant in Los Angeles yesterday got into a beef over who owed what when the bill came and started stabbing each other. Well, that More on that Later.

[Joe Getty]

I do enjoy beef. Here's your freedom loving quotes of the day, sort of sent along by Barry in Thailand quite helpfully. Two quotes regarding a certain part of the world. One, Iran has never won a war or lost a negotiation. Two from the Taliban. Americans have the watches, but we have the time. Right? As they said famously. I want to get back to negotiating with Iran in a minute in the war. But first, mailbag, a slightly different topic, slightly completely different topic. Played this yesterday. It is at a hearing, a Title 9 hearing at the California Institute of. Well, it's their school sports department for the state of California. This is a clip of the year candidate. Indeed. This is a professor from a state university. And the idea that I have to

[Katie Green (News Reporter)]

get up here and say that trans women are women and that's what I have to use my time to do is absurd. Shame on you. Shame on all of you. And shame on you for using lesbian politics as a front for your transphobia. Because this lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.

[Joe Getty]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Like that's an insane person.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. So al Anonymous writes:10 years ago, if I go up to a. And this is a medical professional by the way. If I go up to a same sex attracted man and tell him he should just be attracted to women without penises too, that would be bad in the modern era. If I try and dictate what is okay for you to be attracted to. I'm a transphobe asking for a friend anyway. Yeah, well, it's. It's a lunatic neo Marxist culture. It's not supposed to make sense. It's supposed to confuse you into silence. Moving along. Let's see. We know as much as they do. Anita Rights. The leadership is dead. The gay Ayatollah is at best in a coma. The President of Iran is just a figurehead, not talking to anyone else in leadership. The head of the Air Force is dead. The head of the Navy is dead. The head of the secret police is dead. The head of the Basij is dead. The Iranian IRGC spokesman is dead. And in some cases we're on the replacements of the replacements of the dead. In other words, it's hard to know what's going on. True. Let's see. This is Henry. I've spent way too much of my life negotiating and bargaining with Persians, Arabs, Indians and Chinese. Trump is the first president that they respect because he understands the way they think. Trump is a master of the game, using every tool, including braggadocio, deceit, outrageous demands, but most of all, strength and convincing the other party, you are willing to walk away without a deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hmm.

[Joe Getty]

I've talked to some international businessmen. They agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. By the way, that's not racism or bigotry, that's facts. Different cultures negotiate in different ways. Let's see boots on the ground. Paolo does a nice job of reflecting the mixed feelings I think everybody has. There's considerable concern about an Iran land invasion, with good reason. We have a solid history of things not turning out well. When we commit land forces to a military action, it's left a bad taste in our mouths. So much that in today's political division and chaos, we might not muster the collective will to do it, even if it really is the best option. Sure hope there's a better option. We exercise it and it works. We all hope that. Here's a little more on the war from JT and Livermore. Everyone is cosplaying themselves. Iran's proving why the whole world is and should be against them, massacring their own people, stupidly attacking allies and foes alike, revealing their own lies about ICBM capabilities less than a week after claims to the contrary, engaging in war crimes, etc. Europe doing what they always do. Almost nothing. Not helping opening the Straits, not much. Not helping in defending the neighborhood, not helping in securing Iran's nuclear material. Middle Eastern countries contribute nothing even as they're being bombed by Iran. Well, they're about to, but happy to have the US do their dirty work. The US being the world's policeman again. Even though Europe is a closer target than the US and Gulf oil is a lot more important to them than it is to us.

[Jack Armstrong]

The point Trump was trying to make last week hey, this is more your oil than our oil.

[Joe Getty]

We got our own oil but we do nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nothing is what we do. We are doing what we do, everybody playing their roles. We got a lot more on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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