Coconut Shrimp In A Waffle Cone

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode: Coconut Shrimp In A Waffle Cone
Date: April 29, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand features the signature blend of sharp current events analysis, satirical commentary, and personal storytelling that listeners expect from Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, and newswoman Katie Green. The main theme weaves through geopolitical absurdities at the UN (especially the appointment of Iran to a nuclear treaty committee), critical skepticism about media narratives and institutions, some biting satire on climate politics, a viral baseball incident, and commentary on the world of AI, with side dishes of personal anecdotes and cultural observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Absurdity of Iran’s Role at the UN Nuclear Review Conference

[02:59–14:42]

• UN Appoints Iran as Vice President of Nuclear Review Conference

  • Emirates airline’s luxurious upgrades serve as a comic intro to contrasting international priorities.
  • The hosts dissect a UN meeting in which Iran—universally understood as a nuclear proliferator and adversary to the U.S. and Israel—was voted onto the committee.
  • Highlights a parade of delegations (U.S., Australia, UAE, UK, France, Germany) “dissociating” from the consensus, only for these objections to be swept aside with the ritual phrase:
    • “It is so decided.” – UN Representative ([05:48])
  • Jack mocks the utility of these organizations:
    • “Who believes in these organizations that have conversations like that… to allow a country like Iran… to be on some sort of committee to make decisions about this?” ([05:48])
  • Joe sarcastically punctuates:
    • “Has vowed death to a neighbor and death to the United States… What are we even doing here?” ([06:13])
  • The hosts deride the “meaningless debating societies” and bemoan the UN’s lack of efficacy and common sense.
  • Notable repetition and satire of the phrase:
    • “It is so decided.” ([08:18], [09:44], [14:37])

• U.S. Strategy and Iran’s Economic Woes

  • Trump administration policies: preparing for an extended blockade, betting that Iran can’t withstand economic pain as well as the U.S. and its allies.
  • Iran is under increasing strain, with government subsidies being distributed to manage public outrage and hardship.
    • “Authorities are confronting a level of hardship not seen in many, many decades… going back to the Iran-Iraq war.” – Jack Armstrong ([13:41])
  • Some European and Asian countries are also now subsidizing fuel, indicating global economic pressures.

2. Viral Baseball Fumble: Media Sensationalism & Public Outrage

[17:59–23:08]

• Cleveland Guardians Home Run Ball Incident

  • Story of a grown man and a girl scrambling for a home run ball goes viral.
  • Media coverage is lampooned for exaggerating/overdramatizing (“fought and wrestled”).
  • Katie Green debunks the narrative:
    • “Bull ass. The two both ran for the ball at the same time… He doesn’t touch the girl.” ([18:31])
  • The team gives the girl another ball; man realizes the situation and gives her the original ball.
  • Satirical escalation:
    • “She elbowed her right in his little forehead, crap out of her, grabbed her by the pigtail, swung around and tossed her onto the field…” – Joe, Jack, Katie, riffing ([18:53])
  • Commentary on modern-day doxxing and public shaming:
    • “He’s been doxed. He’s lost his career. But then there will be a gofundme for him, and he’ll make even more…” – Joe Getty ([20:44])

• Joe’s Own Baseball Fumble Story

  • Joe recounts being mocked by professional umpires for blowing a foul ball catch while eating coconut shrimp in a waffle cone – a highlight that gives the episode its whimsical title.
    • “There is… Doug. Major League Umpire Doug… looks up at me and he goes, ‘Ooh.’ Like some effeminate loser missing a ball.” ([22:54])

3. The Lawfare of American Politics: James Comey and Seashell Threat

[26:34–28:36]

• Topical story about former FBI director James Comey being charged over posting a photo allegedly signaling to “get rid of” Trump.
• Both hosts agree the charges are “ridiculous” and a mockery of the justice system, pushing America’s “race to the bottom.”
  • “That was outrageous. Yeah, but he’s a horrible human being. Seashell thing and acting like it was a assassination threat is ridiculous.” – Jack Armstrong ([27:56])

4. Al Gore, Climate Politics, and the New Apocalypticism

[28:36–36:29]

• Review and critique of a new piece on how Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth transformed climate anxiety into a quasi-religious movement.
• The episode explores how political and media narratives adopt the structures of religious apocalypticism: original sin (fossil fuels), warnings of doom (storms, floods), and the promise of salvation (renewables).
  • “It was a sermon complete with a moral arc, a clear account of sin… a warning of coming judgment… and a path to redemption.” – Joe Getty ([32:13])
• The discussion is both analytical and skeptical, challenging the effectiveness and honesty of climate messaging—while acknowledging real environmental changes.
• The hosts riff on allegations about Al Gore’s inappropriate conduct with massage therapists, segueing into a comedic comparison with John Travolta.

5. Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and the OpenAI Lawsuit

[40:29–44:59]

• Musk on Trial: Elon Musk testifies against OpenAI and Sam Altman, calling him “scam Altman,” accusing him of dishonesty, and restating the existential risk of artificial intelligence.
  • “AI could make us more prosperous, but it could also kill us all. We want to be in a Gene Roddenberry movie like Star Trek, not so much a James Cameron movie like Terminator.” – Elon Musk via Jack Armstrong ([42:56])
• Question of Ethics and Narrative Control:
  • The hosts question whether anything meaningful about the future of AI will come out of this, or if it will just be posturing for juries and public opinion.

6. American Spending Habits: Experiences vs. Material Goods

[44:59–46:56]

• Noting how Americans are now cutting back on appliances, furniture, and even orthodontic work (except when truly necessary), but are not pulling back on travel and “experiences.”
  • “People are cutting back. But fun stuff, not so much.” – Joe Getty ([45:41])
  • Jack relates an orthodontist visit and confirms people are putting off elective expenses due to economic worries.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the UN’s Ineffectiveness:

  • “What are we even doing here? No, the hell was that meeting... what are you even doing?” – Joe Getty ([06:13])
  • “It is so decided.” – UN Rep, repeated with mounting irony ([05:48], [08:18], [09:44], [14:37])

• On Media Exaggeration:

  • “Bull ass. The two both ran for the ball at the same time… He doesn’t touch the girl.” – Katie Green ([18:31])

• On Modern Outrage Cycles:

  • “He’s been doxed. He’s lost his career. But then there will be a gofundme for him…” – Joe Getty ([20:44])

• On Al Gore and Climate Apocalypticism:

  • “It was a sermon complete with a moral arc… a warning of coming judgment… and a path to redemption.” – Joe Getty ([32:13])
  • “We are built for this narrative, definitely.” – Jack Armstrong ([34:24])

• On American Spending:

  • “People are cutting back. But fun stuff, not so much.” – Joe Getty ([45:41])

• On Orthodontist Economics:

  • “We walked out of the orthodontist yesterday… he said, ‘I know I used to look like an Appalachian inbred hick.’” – Jack Armstrong ([47:36])

• On Personal Anecdotes and Show Culture:

  • “Coconut shrimp in a waffle cone…” – Joe Getty ([22:14])
  • “If you ever decide to make a short film about your baseball mishap, you can call it Waffle Cone of Disappointment.” – Michelangelo ([47:13])

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Segment Timestamps

• [02:59–14:42]: UN, Iran, and the Nuclear Committee farce
• [17:59–23:08]: Baseball home run ball incident, media exaggeration, and doxxing
• [22:14]: “Coconut shrimp in a waffle cone” and Joe’s personal baseball fail
• [26:34–28:36]: Comey, seashells, political lawfare
• [28:36–36:29]: Al Gore, climate politics, cultural religion-ification
• [40:29–44:59]: Elon Musk v Sam Altman, OpenAI trial, prospect and danger of AI
• [44:59–46:56]: US consumer spending trends, orthodontist vignette
• [47:00–end]: Final Thoughts (lighthearted crew wrap-up)

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains Armstrong & Getty’s trademark skeptical, irreverent, and quick-witted tone—balancing timely rage at institutional stupidity with lots of humor, sarcasm, vivid analogies, and easy rapport among hosts. The language is plain-spoken with moments of playful exaggeration, and the hosts readily shift from serious critique to outright goofiness.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t heard this episode:

• Expect brisk, punchy takes on serious news, with plenty of humor and asides.
• The core focus is skepticism of authority, be it the UN, the media, or climate politics.
• Even when discussing complex topics like AI or geopolitics, the show’s style stays conversational, satirical, and down-to-earth, often breaking stories down with relatable analogies or personal stories.

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Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. The airline Emirates is reportedly developing first class suites with private bathrooms. So if you've ever wanted a seat that reclines all the way, Movies on demand and your own bathroom, have you ever considered just staying home? That's right. The airline Emirates is reportedly developing first class suites with private bathrooms. While Spirit has introduced an empty Gatorade bottle.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good one.

[Joe Getty]

That is pretty funny. Wow. Your own bathroom on a plane, Whatever it costs. Yes, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of the Emirates. Yes, Katie?

[Katie Green]

How much time are you planning on spending in there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Getty]

Just to avoid the horrors if you need to just. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of the Emirates, the uae, one of the countries that voted against Iran being named to the nuclear treaty conference by the UN yesterday in a. All the countries say. Okay, so we'll get into that. Let's listen to a little of this. I'll fill in all the details.

[UN Representative]

May I take it that the conference wishes to approve these candidates? I give the floor to the distinguished representative of the United States.

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We ask that the record of today's

[Jack Armstrong]

proceedings reflect that the United States objected to Iran's nomination to the general Committee

[Joe Getty]

and that the United States dissociates itself

[Jack Armstrong]

from the consensus on this decision.

[UN Representative]

I now give the floor to the distinguished representative of Australia.

[Joe Getty]

Australia agrees with those who have disassociated

[Jack Armstrong]

from any consensus on Iran's appointment to such a leadership role. I wanted to hear the audio because I saw some of this yesterday. I mean, it's hilarious. The What George W. Bush once called meaningless debating societies. Here's a little more. Toward the end, when they finally decide to allow ran in Iran in, I

[UN Representative]

wish to give the floor to the distinguished representative of the United Arab Emirates.

[Joe Getty]

The United Arab Emirates therefore, formally and unequivocally disassociates itself from the election of

[UN Representative]

Iran as vice president of this review conference. I understand that the conference can elect the vice presidents. I have read out the objections and reservations just expressed will be duly recorded in the records of the meeting. It is so decided.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it is decided because the majority of countries said Iran could be on the committee. And I mean, just listen to that. Who believes in these organizations that have conversations like that to allow a country like Iran, who's been pursuing a nuclear weapon for decades, has lied at every turn, and everybody knows it lies at every turn to be on some sort of committee to make decisions about this.

[Joe Getty]

Has, has vowed death to a neighbor and death to the United States. As I'm fond of saying these days, what are we even doing here? No, the hell was that meeting in that commission and that Vice presidency that just went to Iraq? What are you even doing?

[Jack Armstrong]

So, Vice President, you're just basically members of the main committee of the whole thing and disassociate is their term for voting against, but all these fancy highfalutin terms and committees that are just crap. So Iran was selected as One of the 34 vice presidents at the 11th Review Conference of the nuclear Non prolifera Proliferation Treaty. So they have a special committee to deal with the, you know, expansion of nuclear powers in the world. You allowed a country on there that is a death cult that has been trying to cheat their way to getting a nuclear weapon. I mean, that's what you're all there to stop.

[Joe Getty]

It's beyond parody.

[Jack Armstrong]

It really is.

[Joe Getty]

It's, it's just a horror.

[UN Representative]

It is so decided.

[Jack Armstrong]

Iran was nominated by the Nine Aligned Movement, which represents 121 largely developing nations. So all of these piss ant countries from around the world, there's enough of them to say, yeah, I think Iran ought to be on there so we can stand up against the, you know, the powerful of the world. The cool kids. The US objected sharply, joined by the uae, Australia, the uk, France and Germany. But obviously that's not enough to go against the other one hundred and twenty two countries. US Assistant Secretary for Arms Control Christopher Yaw called the seating a farce and affront to the Non Proliferation Treaty in total arguing Iran has demonstrated contempt for non proliferation, a word I obviously have trouble with, so I could never be on the committee.

[Joe Getty]

You've gotten through it twice though. Well done.

[Jack Armstrong]

Iran's IAEA ambassador dismissed the objections as baseless and politically motivated, maintaining that Iran supports global nuclear disarmament.

[UN Representative]

It is so decided.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean this is, it is, it's like it's a sitcom. That's really good. I like you playing that. It is so decided.

[UN Representative]

It is so decided.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the representative from Iran stands up and says, this is just politics from the United States. We are, we are committed to global nuclear disarmament. Hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

We're closing the un. We're pulling the plug. Everybody out. Out. You've Got two hours to clean out your offices. Yeah. This has been so decided. You weasel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Claude, using Opus 4.7, points out that Tehran suspended cooperation with the IAEA and its inspectors withdrew early in July of 2025, not agreeing to the. You know, that Obama thing, that treaty that we put together. They wouldn't let the inspectors in because they're trying to get a nuclear weapon, because they want to try to blow up a bunch of Jews or hold the rest of the world hostage. The opposite of what they said. And we pretend like the words are true. Coming out of the mouths of liars. What? Like you said. What is going on here? What is happening? What is this?

[Joe Getty]

What are we doing here? The UN is ridiculous. It is beyond a parody of itself. It's an insult to itself. It's an insult to the intelligence of everybody watching it.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. It's. That is. That is exactly right. That's what everybody should say. This is an insult to my intelligence, and sit back down.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Andrea Gunning]

Wow.

[UN Representative]

It is so decided.

[Joe Getty]

You could absolutely make the argument that, you know, the UN doesn't have much power, but any body that is that perverse shouldn't have any power whatsoever because they're capable of doing anything. It's like somebody who's hopelessly psychotic. Don't give them a hammer. Not even like a little one for hanging pictures. It's just a bad idea. The UN is psychotic.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. And what is it with the crowd that reveres it?

[Joe Getty]

They live in a dream world, or believes in it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then when the UN says something bad about the United States, which is almost always under a Republican president, you know, it's treated like the word of God come down from on high. Oh, the UN doesn't like what we're doing. Look, we've angered the un. Look at what they did yesterday, you morons.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you know, it's. It's a measure of the dishonesty or stupidity or something of the mainstream media that they hold twin attitudes. The one is, they want radical change right now. They want to throw away all the precepts that have built this country because it'll be a utopia. And the idea of ending something that clearly doesn't work like a government program or the UN or whatever, that's another, yes, we'll end the First Amendment, but we can't possibly end this useless welfare program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Please, boy, you and I do not have the personalities to be members of the UN because you have to go there thinking, I'm going to do the very, very slow work of chipping away Little by little, over decades of trying to turn this giant oil tanker around and be calm about it. I couldn't do that every time something like this happened. What in the hell is going on here? This is insane. Why are we using all these fancy terms and having all these votes and letting countries with the g. Corrupt countries with a GDP of $8 have a vote that counts the same as the United States? What the hell is happening here?

[Joe Getty]

I wonder what Mike Waltz says about what he's doing there. If he's like a turning the ship of state around slowly guy, or if he's like, we got to have a UN Ambassador, it pays pretty good. It's a good gig. It's not like I'm going to go work at Walmart. So I took the gig. I mean, I got to believe Waltz is a real realist. I got to believe he's incredibly cynical about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I know, I know people who would be horrified by the idea that the United States should have a bigger vote or England or any real country, you know, even China, even evil countries, but that should have more of a vote than some $8 GDP corrupt country somewhere. But they get all get the same vote. So nuts.

[Joe Getty]

It was a lovely idea. It's not working.

[Jack Armstrong]

Actual news on China. Real quick, Trump. This is from the Wall Street Journal. Trump has instructed aides to prepare for an extended blockade of Iran that could last quite a while. So we're still betting on the fact that they're going broke, they're going to collapse at some point, that they're going to give in. As the Wall Street Journal points out, we think that they can't handle the pain much longer. Iran thinks the same thing. They think that Trump's poll numbers, the price of gas, Congress, all the poll numbers, they see eventually our allies, eventually we're going to squeal. Enough is enough. We're going to yell uncle. So both sides are saying that. And one other thing. The Iranian government has had to raise wages for everyone in the United. In their. In their country, subsidized basic goods because people can't afford like electricity and food and all that sort of stuff, and are handing out cash to the poor. Authorities are confronting a level of hardship not seen in many, many decades, going back to the Iran Iraq war. So I got to tell you, if I'm betting on one side or the other, like you were talking about yesterday, on who can handle the pain the longest, it doesn't even seem like it's close.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I saw a graphic on all the countries around the world. Well, yeah, your point. And my point is correct. We're in a way better position, obviously the U.S. but our allies. I saw a chart of all the different countries around the world that are now like subsidy is subsidizing gas prices for their citizens, including European countries and Asian countries and all. It's, it's really hurting them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So they may be squealing a little bit, but, you know, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

King Charles made a. And I really appreciate it. It made a lot of noises about Iran can't have a nuclear weapon yesterday. He was unequivocal on that point. Glad to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

Way to go, King Chuck. Yeah.

[UN Representative]

We got a lot more so decided.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is so decided. We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

girl for a home run ball had a change of heart in the end.

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The two run homer knocked into the stands of Progressive Field. A grown man going for it, then wrestling the young girl for control. The announcers at the game criticizing him for it. Social media criticizing him too. The mom later posting that the man did eventually do the right thing returning the ball to her daughter by the

[Joe Getty]

end of that game.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now I haven't seen the video. Katie, you have watched it and you're saying the the saying fought and wrestled is a bit of an exaggeration. And the tone of voice. I haven't seen the video.

[Katie Green]

Bull ass. I mean it was the ball goes into the stands. The two both ran for the ball at the same time. He's wearing a cap and his head is down and there's kind of a scramble for the ball. He doesn't touch the girl.

[Joe Getty]

You Know, sounds like he fought her

[Jack Armstrong]

and wrestled her to me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it sounds like she elbowed her right in his little forehead, crap out

[Jack Armstrong]

of her, grabbed her by the pigtail, swung around and tossed her onto the

[Katie Green]

field and, you know, dropped an elbow slam on her head. Like, what is hell?

[Joe Getty]

As the denizen of many a ball game, I will tell you this. It was mano e mano. There are only two people involved, or should I say mano e little girlo. The two of them were the only ones wrestling for the ball. But he was very ball focused.

[Katie Green]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And. And it's entirely possible he had no idea that the other pair of hands reaching for the ball were hers. Did she have full possession? Did he snatch it away? Because everybody knows that's the rule.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did she have it in her hand at any point?

[Katie Green]

It was.

[Joe Getty]

You can't tell.

[Katie Green]

It was such a scramble. You can't see it, really, but you

[Jack Armstrong]

can't call it fought and wrestled if they both just were reaching for it. And he ended up with it. I used.

[Joe Getty]

They both threw on the singlet. He took her down. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

Like, I saw that report on ABC last night. Went, what video did you watch? Dude, he didn't even watch the video. No guarantee.

[Jack Armstrong]

He has one speed. David Muir. It's funny. He's the number one evening newscast in America, which is like being the world's smartest horse, but he has one speed. He has the same tone for everything, which is funny.

[Katie Green]

Fought a little girl and then what did he say? He fought a little girl and wrestled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Katie Green]

No, that did not happen.

[Joe Getty]

David Mirror wrestled the ball away from her.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, toughen up, little girl. That's what I tell her. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I did that and wasn't paying attention then and found out it was a little kid, I'd be horrified.

[Katie Green]

Well, and also, at the end of the video, he. He gets the ball and then immediately turns his back and, like, looks at his phone. So, I mean, he is a. I think he was 100, oblivious as to what happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Katie Green]

And then, you know, the announcers came over and gave her a different ball. And then I think he caught wind of what had happened, and then he went up and gave it to her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, I'm sure there's a gofundme me for the little girl. She now has her college paid for.

[Joe Getty]

He's been doxed. He's lost his career. But then there will be a gofundme for him, and he'll make even more than the little girl. When conservatives or liberals or racists or somebody comes to his aid.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the people who looked into his background uncovered an affair his wife was having.

[Katie Green]

And he's on Grindr.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Hello.

[Jack Armstrong]

You do not want to get into the public eye even for a moment.

[Joe Getty]

In the modern world, people want to be famous.

[Katie Green]

I. I couldn't believe that when I saw that report.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never had.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if I've ever, at

[Jack Armstrong]

any kind of ball game, ever had a ball come. I know I've never touched one. I've never had one even come close to me. I don't think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I have for sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you ever catch one?

[Joe Getty]

No, no. Famously, Michael remembers this. I was mocked by the umpires on the field play at a major league game for muffing a foul ball.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's right.

[Katie Green]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Tell the story.

[Joe Getty]

Physically mocking me. Well, yeah, it takes a little of the fun out of it, but I've got a very good friend who just retired as a major league umpire, and I was hanging out with the crew for the weekend, and I'm sitting there in these stands. I was watching a Tampa Bay race.

[Jack Armstrong]

This has happened in the past. So there you go.

[Katie Green]

She's drinking again. On the.

[Joe Getty]

There she was. No, you're too mean to her. I didn't make it clear. It was a reminiscence.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're covering up her drinking, which is namely.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And it's ironic because I was at least a couple of double gin and tonics in. Sitting there at the game, enjoying my coconut shrimp in a. What do you call it? The waffle cone. Oh, there you go in Tampa. Oh, so good. Had a great little buzz going. So here comes a foul ball, and I'm like, oh. And I stand up and I reach out and I try to make a basket type catch, and it hits my hands and tumbles away. Right? So I look out on the field and there is. Should I name him? I will just call him Doug. Major League Umpire Doug. Because his name is Doug. He looks up at me and he goes, oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Like some effeminate loser missing a ball

[Jack Armstrong]

over and over again. Mocked on the field of play for not catching a foul ball.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And you are a baseball player.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm still embarrassed. Still embarrassed. Damn you, Doug.

[Jack Armstrong]

More on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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[Joe Getty]

This all stems from former FBI director last year posting, then deleting an Instagram photo of Seashells arranged to say 86, 47. 86 can be used as slang, meaning to get rid of something. The Justice Department alleges it was code for eliminating the 47th President Donald Trump. Trump DOJ is charging the president's longtime nemesis with two counts. Threatening the life of the president and transmitting in interstate commerce a threat to kill the president.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I play that only to say we aren't going to talk about that. We also didn't and aren't going to talk about Jimmy come. Jimmy Kimmel's joke and the follow up, which Fox has been talking about for hours today. CNN did hours on it yesterday. I don't know. This might ruin our careers, but there are just certain topics we no longer can engage in.

[Joe Getty]

We just can't rage baiting nonsense. I'll tell you this about Comey. I am going to defy what you just said. And talking.

[Jack Armstrong]

I talk about. I do hate Comey.

[Joe Getty]

The charges are ridiculous, in a mockery of the justice system and not good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, not good all the way around. We can't be playing these games.

[Joe Getty]

Although I can see I'm not justifying, but I understand. In the words of Chris Rock, I'm not saying it's right, but I understand Trump is saying you're going to lawfare me till I'm insane. Here's how it feels. Are you sure this is the way we want to run our politics? You could make a case for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Back to the rtb, the race to the bottom. What do I win for tatting ourselves into the ground? You wanna. You wanna spend a lot of time on how Comey made up a story to get it into the paper so then he could do an investigation. Blah, blah, blah. Crap. I'm all. I'm about that all day long. That was outrageous. Yeah, but he's a horrible human being. Seashell thing and acting like it was a assassination threat is ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of horrible human beings.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is a decent point that. You know how much you cost me in legal bills over that crap? Here, how about you pay for this crap?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, here's about 150k out of your pocket. Right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And this charge is patently ridiculous. You see how this works? Again, I'm not arguing in favor of that, but. So, speaking of horrible human beings, the headline is How Al Gore Politicized Climate Science. And I was like, everybody knows that An Inconvenient Truth was full of fiction and exaggerations and harem scarum stuff. And, you know, I started reading it and the history of it, and they made a point that I found really, really interesting. And it feels like the whole climate change hysteria thing is the bloom is off that rose, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep.

[Joe Getty]

Probably caused by global warming, but I thought this was interesting. And. And he goes into, if you're a

[Jack Armstrong]

trans athlete, climate change activist, this has not been a good year for you.

[Joe Getty]

No, no. Boy, how do you look back at 2024? With fondness, but. And they go into the effusive praise that Gore got at the time, including from this Harvard oceanographer James McCarthy. You ought to know better. And he said, no single individual deserves more credit for our public acceptance of climate scientists science, public acceptance that has emboldened growing numbers of mayors, governors, senators and presidential candidates to embrace the urgency of addressing anthropogenic climate change. Then the author says, to understand the underlying dynamics at play here, it helps to understand how catastrophism came to take root in the climate science community and also how science came to play a central role in catastrophism. And he hearkens back to a 1983 book that was about religious millenarism, people who thought the millennium was going to bring the Second Coming or the Apocalypse or whatever. So this book. In 1983, the scholar Michael Barkin identified what he called a new apocalypticism, which is a secular variant of religious millenarianism rooted not in scripture, but instead in science, but structurally identical to the religious part, the religious kind. Here's what he says. A newer, more diffuse, but indisputably influential apocalypticism coexists with the religious variety, secular rather than religious. This second variety grows out of a natural, naturalistic worldview indebted to science and to social criticism rather than theology. Many of its authors are academics. The works themselves are directed at a lay audience of influential people in business and government and journalists who have the presumed to have the power to intervene in order to avert planetary catastrophe. Gore's orations perfectly followed the script of the new apocalypticism. Here's how they identify an existential crisis. They diagnosed the human sin as its cause, the urgency of transformation and the comfort of redemption for those who heed the warning the climate science community readily embraced the script and adopted the language of believers and deniers to differentiate those with faith and those yet to be converted.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you think this was on purpose, knowing this playbook? Or just kind of happened that way?

[Joe Getty]

That's a great question. Sometimes people do something brilliant without exactly understanding the mechanics of what they're doing. Brilliantly. Evil in this case, or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Certainly that all sounds correct. None of that seems like a stretch to me.

[Joe Getty]

All right, one more little plank in the platform of this guy's argument. An Inconvenient truth. The movie was not really about science. It was a sermon complete with a moral arc with those who are. With those who are evil and those who are righteous. A clear account of sin. That's fossil fuel emissions. A warning of coming judgment. Floods, storms, tipping points and a path to redemption.

[Katie Green]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

It's a political will.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't even think about that. It's even got the floods and storms. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And the path to redemption is political will, renewable energy, personal responsibility. The film ends with a call to conversion.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm trying to think of, is this just a coincidence? Because none of that seems like a stretch. We have sinned as a people. We have sinned as a people. And the wrath of God or nature is going to be floods and locusts or whatever else.

[Joe Getty]

And fires. That's right, sir. That's a reference to the Bible. Yes, yeah, yeah. And the obliteration of civilizations and death and horror and destruction. Punishment for our sins. Which also explains.

[Jack Armstrong]

But there's still time to repent and redeem ourselves.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly, exactly. And once people get into a headspace like that. And the whole woke thing is quasi religious too. That's why there isn't a question of arguments pro and con. Like a CS Lewis might delight in a discussion with a Christopher Hitchens, for instance. It's much more the knee jerk. You're evil. I hate you. You're part of the sinful class. Even when people bring up perfectly reasonable, open hearted objections to it. That's why they're so vicious, because they're religious converts. Just without, you know, Yahweh or Jesus or even Allah or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I realize that this work can work for the God believing crowd and the God denying crowd, but in that it just seems we're built for this narrative for some reason. Our brains are designed for it. Now you can make the argument that

[Joe Getty]

that's because God exists, a God shaped hole, et cetera. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or because it's just some quirk of the brain. But we are built for this narrative definitely.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think the quirk of the brain is that we recognize that goodness will yield happiness and badness will be something that we have to fight, and it will bring ruin if we permit it to go unchecked. I think we learned that in the first caveman tribe. Anyway. And then he goes into the things Al Gore got right, which is rising CO2 warms the planet, Arctic sea ice was in decline. Etc. Etc. But the things he got absolutely, hilariously wrong. He presented the active 2005 Atlantic hurricane season as part of an ongoing trend. Ironically, for more than a decade after An Inconvenient Truth was released, not a single major hurricane made landfall on the continental United States. And the science of tropical cyclones still does not support claims of detection or attribution of trends. Just complete fiction. I thought that was interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

My abductors were sore. I had to get them massaged. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, actually I. I have strained my adductor badly and I can't have anybody rub on it because they'll think I'm looking for a. A joyful conclusion, if you will. I guess I can say happy ending on the air. I just. I try to be a bit more strained in my.

[Jack Armstrong]

My verb, the happy ending is your adductors no longer hurt.

[Joe Getty]

Well, exactly. That's all I'm seeking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not an orgasm.

[Joe Getty]

Who has restraint and who doesn't let the record show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did Al Gore ever get nailed down for that? If you don't know what we're referencing, There were various claims by masseuses at hotels that he would call ahead and line up massages, saying, particularly his adductors, which are the inside of your groin,

[Joe Getty]

certainly your inner thigh. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Need somebody to rub him there. And then he would.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Make comments and motions. I don't think he never got like. For people making claims, but he did not.

[Joe Getty]

It was just allegations. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a little suspicious. Always your adductors in particular.

[Joe Getty]

Some people have in particularly tight aductors.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do.

[Joe Getty]

Very tight. Very, very tight. All right, moving along.

[Jack Armstrong]

And was it dudes or dudes and women or just women or dudes? Did we ever know was that.

[Joe Getty]

I don't remember the. It was women.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was always women.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I think you're thinking of John Travolta. Allegedly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's right. John Travolta had the thing.

[Joe Getty]

Many people get too confused.

[Jack Armstrong]

Al Gore and John Travolta. Which one was Urban Cowboy? That's Al Gore.

[Joe Getty]

Al Gore. Correct. Yep, yep. Dancing with Uma Thurman and Pulp Fiction. Who could who could forget the the former vice president in that blockbuster performance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we will finish strong next Armstrong

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[Andrea Gunning]

Elon Musk. He warned the jury that he believes

[Jack Armstrong]

AI could kill us all and that

[Andrea Gunning]

he wanted to avoid a Terminator style outcome for everybody, partly by helping to found a nonprofit open source AI research

[Jack Armstrong]

foundation that became OpenAI. Right. So that's Elon Musk was on the stand yesterday in the trial against OpenAI, Sam Altman and the other guy. But Sam Altman's getting all the attention because he was the mover and shaker at the time. Elon Musk, referring to him, has scam Altman yesterday on his Twitter feed, which the devastating the judge told him to stop doing. But Elon tweeted out yesterday, scam Altman didn't tell the Open AI board that he owned the OpenAI startup fund. Altman lied in congressional testimony that he didn't have financial anything to financially gain from OpenAI calling him flat out a liar. I'm sure that will come out in this trial. An ex board member of OpenAI also calls Sam Altman a liar on Twitter yesterday. He lied to the board for years, hid chat GBT launch, lied about owning the startup fund, falsified safety info and lied to oust her after her paper. I don't know he's referring to the board lost all trust in him and fired him. Sam Altman is a liar. I'm obviously taking this from Twitter or X which is owned by Elon Musk, which has quite a bit of stake in this trial. I mean, I'm only hearing one side of it. In other words.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but man did quote the thing I mentioned, which is probably similar to what you're mentioning, quoted specific people in specific instances with quotes around their words.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

In many cases. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's, it's, it's kind of hard to imagine what the pushback is going to be from Sam Altman based on, I mean Elon knows that he can't go around saying these things. Well, he's going to say these things under oath and some of the other board members, I mean, I don't know. Sounds to me like Elon's on the right side of this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I, I know so little about A, the law involved in the trial and B, I'm certainly not part of the high flying trying to raise $250 million from the hedge fund crowd world of over promising in Silicon Valley. At what point does that become just blatant dishonesty? The whole thing's gray area. But yeah, Elon appears to have brought the receipts on the story that Altman's just a congenital liar.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I don't know. Right.

[Joe Getty]

No personal knowledge.

[Jack Armstrong]

The full quote of what he said on the stand yesterday, Elon Musk, is this AI could make us more prosperous, but it could also kill us all. We want to be in a Gene Roddenberry movie like Star Trek, not so much a James Cameron movie like Terminator. He then went on to say, it's like raising a child. It's like if you had a very smart child. At the end of the day, when the child grows up, you can't really control that child, but you can try to install the right values. Honesty, integrity, caring about humanity, being good. Essentially. We need to do that for AI and that's why I started AI Open AI I'm not sure it's doable, but Elon knows a hell of a lot more about it than I do, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I, I need to read more about the trial because if, if, if I started, if we start a charity and I decided no, this would be a good for profit business. And what, what is, what are the laws there? I have no friggin idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless you were claiming you were still trying to make it a charity under oath in front of Congress and to the board members while you were tax

[Joe Getty]

laws and that sort of thing where

[Jack Armstrong]

you were secretly, secretly maneuvering to turn it into a for profit business, then it might be a problem.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Yeah, I just, like I say, I don't know what problem or what statutes are involved, but it's super interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm excited about any, you know, personal shots they take at each other, but ultimately I'm not sure if anything about the bigger picture of AI is going to come out of this at all. Maybe, maybe Elon at some point will have to talk at length to back up his claims of how dangerous AI is to make the point. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wish I knew more about the legalities here. I mean, if he made a. A point so, you know, persuasive and poignant that angels cried over his description of how an unbridled AI could ruin humanity, does that have anything to do with the specific charges?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. I was just hoping. I was hoping to learn more about the world of powerful AI out of this trial. And I'm just not sure if that's going to happen or not. But we'll keep our eye on it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of, you know, consumer issues and that sort of thing, I found this really interesting that, number one, it is indisputable now that tariffs have raised prices. That just. It is. There's no argument. And the way people are cutting back and the way they're not cutting back. Look at the American consumer, really cutting back on stuff, but not on travel and experiences from phones and household appliances, recreational books, new cars, furniture and furnishings, all durable goods. People are cutting back. But fun stuff, not so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an interesting choice by us, we humans. So yesterday I met the orthodontist waiting for my son to get his braces tightened. He had actually effed up teeth. So it's not purely cosmetic. Not that I hold anything against you. If you did that, I wouldn't have. If it was just to make them go from perfectly fine to perfect, I was not gonna pay for it. But his were like a mess. And they look good now, which I love the fact that that technology exists. Anywho, it's very, very expensive. I asked how businesses and she said way down. She said, I just don't think people are, you know, because a lot of it is cosmetic. A lot of it is a. We're okay not doing this. And a lot, a lot of people are choosing not to do it according to receptionist anyway because they think they're a little worried about the money. Like you're just saying admit me.

[Joe Getty]

Chorus to this history who Prologue like your humble patience pray, this is King Charles to hear kindly to judge the final thoughts of Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kind of interesting. It'd be interesting if people are cutting back on getting their teeth straightened and buying cars or furniture, but not on trips and food, if that's what's happening. Anyway.

[Joe Getty]

They want experiences. That's what they say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's experience final thoughts from everybody on the crew, beginning with our technical director, the control room, Michelangelo. Michael. Final thought. Hey, this is for Joe. If you ever decide to make a short film about your baseball mishap, you can call It Waffle cone of Disappointment. That is a good title. It's a grabber. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.

[Katie Green]

Katie, I am patting myself on the back for getting anything done this morning after having found out about the sea lion cam in San Francisco.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, Chonker's watch.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That boy is thick. That's a thick boy. Jack, you got a final thought for us?

[Jack Armstrong]

We walked out of the orthodontist yesterday as talking to Henry about his teeth, he said, I know I used to look like an Appalachian inbred hick.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's regionalism, son.

[Jack Armstrong]

So at least we got that fixed.

[Joe Getty]

I won't have it. It finally got done. I'm so happy this is such a good geek thing. The guys who did my driveway, it's like brick sized pavers in a particular pattern. They've slightly altered the pattern in two spots exactly where the cornhole boards need to go.

[Katie Green]

Nice.

[Joe Getty]

So I'll never have to measure again. I just see the pattern of the bricks.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's very handy. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

Such a dork. So many people to thank. So, so little time. Go to armstrongandgetti.com the hot links, the swag, the enforce the law T shirts

[Jack Armstrong]

flying off the shelves and we will see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. So I'm doing some goat yoga. I got one goat under me, one on top of me. Oh, that's weird. Well, it's an advanced position not to be tried at home. They call it the double goat bridge. What are you not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Katie Green]

Wow, it's getting worse.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is.

[Joe Getty]

It's Jack and Joe Kay and Michelangelo.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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