Compassion, Poison & Palms

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – “Compassion, Poison & Palms”

Release Date: June 1, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty dives into the intersection of politics, media, social issues, and cultural oddities shaping California and the U.S. Highlights include critical analysis of Jill Biden's media appearances, a heated look at the California gubernatorial and LA mayoral races, AI’s rise and pitfalls in daily life, and a humorous rumination on middle-age memory lapses. The show’s trademark mix of sarcasm, irreverence, and skepticism is on full display as the co-hosts riff on newsmakers from Jill Biden to Spencer Pratt and place everything in the context of America’s shifting social fabric.

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Key Segment Breakdown & Insights

1. NBA Finals, Jill Biden’s Interviews, and Political Softballs

Timestamps: 02:32–05:46

• NBA Playoffs Start: Joe enthusiastically recaps the Spurs making the NBA Finals behind Wembiana, drawing a parallel with Magic Johnson’s youthful championship run.
  • ”It’s Wemby’s West...he’d be the second youngest player to ever lead a team to an NBA championship. Magic Johnson was 20...Whenbiana’s only 22.” (Joe, 02:45)
• Jill Biden’s Media Tour:
  • Jack highlights the “super softball” nature of her book rollout, noting increasingly tough questions despite attempts to frame Joe Biden’s struggles as mere stuttering, not cognitive frailty.
  • Both hosts mock this framing:
    • “Did he stutter a little bit at night? Oh my God. Going with the stutter. Still claiming that. That was it. What? The guy’s got a stutter anyway.” (Joe, 04:07)
  • They examine criticism from commentators (notably Stephen A. Smith) and ridicule the notion of excusing public confusion as a stutter or possible stroke.
  • Key theme: Media bias and political families shield incumbent politicians from honest scrutiny.
  • “If you were to accept that scenario as even being conceivable, you’d be a terrible human being and a moron.” (Jack, 04:52)

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2. California Politics: Compassion, Needles, and a “Reality Villain”

Timestamps: 05:46–11:50

• LA Mayoral Race:
  • Jack and Joe introduce Spencer Pratt (former reality TV personality) as a Trump-styled maverick candidate against incumbent Karen Bass.
  • Pratt, in an impassioned audio clip, rejects the idea that helping homeless addicts is “compassionate” if it merely allows them to die on the street, vowing to focus on meaningful treatment and public safety.
    • “I don’t want people dying on the street. I don’t want our tax money going to needles to kill these people. I want to get them in treatment...I have a heart.” (Spencer Pratt, 06:20)
  • Bass leans into labeling Pratt as a “reality TV villain” and calls herself a proven public servant.
    • “That choice is a reality TV villain. Really, how did that work for us on the national level?” (Karen Bass, 07:33)
  • Joe and Jack lampoon the “do nothing” posture of longtime incumbents, arguing that letting homeless encampments persist is neither safe nor compassionate.
    • “There are encampments because you’ve allowed the encampments to be there...Wow.” (Joe, 08:32)
• Bay Area & Statewide Races:
  • Brief detour into San Francisco politics, mocking the Chronicle’s endorsement of ultra-progressive Scott Wiener.
    • “He wants man-boy love and sex changes for confused autistic children and just, you know, legalized prostitution. Streetwalkers walking by your kid’s school...” (Jack, 09:23)
  • Hosts see these races as emblematic of a broader crossroads for California: Will it swing toward reform (like Texas) or double down on progressive policy excess?

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3. Bureaucracy, Technology & the AI Paradox

Timestamps: 11:50–15:11

• Bureaucratic Frustrations:
  • Joe shares his expletive-heavy rant (teased from the “One More Thing” podcast) about maddening state websites (DMV, VA).
    • “You type in all the information, go through the whole thing...‘Cannot process your action at this time. Try again later.’ Fu and the horse you effing rode in on.” (Joe, 12:40)
• AI & The “Customer Service” Hope:
  • Jack wonders: How can AI revolutionize life when basic digital bureaucracy is so broken? Both hope that future AI can restore lost human subtleties in customer service.
    • “Hopefully...AI gets so good that it’ll be like talking to a human being and they can handle the subtleties of your problem.” (Joe, 13:23)
  • The irony of lawsuits against AI over “making us dumber” is discussed.
    • “Florida just sued ChatGPT...for being all kinds of bad, including making us dumber.” (Joe, 14:01)
  • Jack skewers the “uncanny valley” effect of lifelike—but not life-like—phone systems.
    • “There’s a direct correlation between how hard they work on making it sound human and how completely effing not human it is.” (Jack, 15:11)

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4. America 250 and the Battle of the Bands (and Narratives)

Timestamps: 19:26–22:54

• America’s 250th Birthday Parties:
  • Joe and Jack riff on two dueling July 4th events: “Freedom250” (Trump-aligned, flashy state fair) vs. the bipartisan “America250.”
  • Mockery ensues as dated musical acts (Vanilla Ice, Milli Vanilli, Bret Michaels) are announced—only for many to deny their booking when they learn of the event’s political leanings.
    • “That’s gotta hurt...when you can’t close the deal with Milli Vanilli.” (Joe, 19:26)
  • Trump’s bombastic response and plan to headline is recounted:
    • “I’m thinking about bringing the number one attraction...a man who gets much larger audiences than Elvis...announcing himself as the headliner.” (Jack, 22:15)
  • They derisively describe these culture war showdowns as “ugly” and “bottom of the barrel.”

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5. Media, Legacy, and the Biden Debate

Timestamps: 25:35–34:46

• Jill Biden’s Media Defense of Joe:
  • Audio excerpts played from Jill’s Today Show interview; the hosts dissect her attempts to defend Joe Biden’s fitness after disastrous debate showings.
    • Craig Melvin: “How do you square thinking he may have had a stroke with what you were saying in the days and weeks after?” (27:01)
    • Jill Biden: “I had to support him, I couldn’t come out and, I mean, really publicly say, Joe, you did a terrible job in that debate.” (27:27)
  • Jack: “That is pretty funny.” (27:58)
  • Both lambaste her “denial” and predict that as interviews get tougher, the media will force more authenticity—or the Bidens will withdraw.
    • “These interviews are going to get tougher as she goes along...she is going to go one interview too long...that will be a veritable bloodbath in terms of embarrassment.” (Jack, 29:04)
  • On family denial about cognitive decline:
    • “The idea that the spouse is like, Oh, no, everything’s great. Oh, I haven’t noticed anything. Come on. That never happens.” (Jack, 32:03)

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6. Age, Memory & Personal Anecdotes

Timestamps: 32:25–37:41

• Armstrong’s Palm Tree Story:
  • Jack recounts a story of repeatedly forgetting he’s talked about an old palm tree with his kids, using the anecdote to highlight how family members always notice memory lapses in loved ones.
    • “The fact that Hunter or Jill never noticed him being that way—come on. It’s hilarious.” (Joe, 33:38)
  • Self-deprecating banter ensues on middle-aged forgetfulness:
    • “I could hide my own Easter eggs.” (Joe, 36:29)
    • They emphasize that age-related memory slips are common, but denial in public life is rarely honest.

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7. Breaking News: Tech IPOs & the AI Boom/Bubble

Timestamps: 41:45–45:00

• Anthropic’s IPO & “Trillionaire” Talk:
  • Joe breaks news about AI company Anthropic (behind Claude) prepping for IPO, surpassing OpenAI in valuation ($900 billion vs. $730 billion).
    • “Anthropic officially passed OpenAI last week as the most valuable AI startup.” (Joe, 42:26)
  • Race with OpenAI and SpaceX to go public is predicted to create “once in a generation” wealth.
    • “It’s going to create a tsunami of investment and employee wealth and quite possibly mint the very first trillionaire in world history.” (Joe, 42:47)
  • Humor around the missed opportunity to become a SpaceX millionaire, and skepticism about the long-term value of these AI companies.
    • “This will make pets.com seem like Apple...It’s all a bit of a gamble.” (Jack, 44:25)
• Will AI Destroy Humanity?
  • Jack’s final thought: Even top minds (Hinton, Musk) estimate a 20–30% chance that AI could end humanity—remarkable, but largely ignored by society.
    • “The fact that many of the leaders in AI...put the chance of AI destroying humanity somewhere between like 20 and 30%. That’s so crazy that we all just ignore them.” (Jack, 45:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Soft Journalism:
  • “It was two old bats chatting...It wasn’t journalism in any shape or form.” (Jack, 05:39)
• On California Homeless Policy:
  • “If you want to do anything about drug addicts on the street, you’re hard hearted and mean. As opposed to, we’ll just let the population grow and let them live on the street. That’s the compassionate one.” (Joe, 06:48)
• On AI Customer Service:
  • “There’s a direct correlation between how hard they work on making it sound human and how completely effing not human it is.” (Jack, 15:11)
• Biting Satire on Politics:
  • “He wants man-boy love and sex changes for confused autistic children and just, you know, legalized prostitution...” (Jack, 09:23, re: Scott Wiener)
• Self-Deprecation:
  • “I could hide my own Easter eggs.” (Joe, 36:29)

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Episode Timestamps for Key Topics

• Spurs/NBA/Wembiana: 02:32–03:15
• Jill Biden Interview Softballs: 03:15–05:46, 25:35–29:13, 30:15–34:46
• LA Mayor/Governor’s Race: 05:46–11:50
• Bureaucracy & AI: 11:50–15:11
• America 250/Patriotic Party Politics: 19:26–22:54
• Memory & Age Discussion: 32:25–37:41
• Tech IPOs, AI Bubble: 41:45–45:00
• Final Thoughts: 45:58–end

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Tone and Style

The hosts stick to their signature blend of sardonic humor, open skepticism, and brash irreverence. Political figures, media professionals, and even themselves are subject to ridicule. The language is frank and conversational, with plenty of dry and black humor.

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Conclusion

This episode offers an acerbic yet insightful snapshot of American political, media, and technological life in 2026, filtered through Armstrong & Getty’s no-nonsense, often irreverent, lens. Whether skewering elite denial (Jill Biden), satirizing the state of California politics, or venting about digital frustrations and looming AI disruption, the hosts keep the pace bracing and the commentary candid.

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For listeners seeking context and critique on current U.S. events—leavened with humor—this episode hits the mark. It’s especially recommended for anyone following California politics, the evolving AI industry, or the ever-confounding phenomenon of political media spin.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Eight seconds left. Fox has it ahead to Bisel, who goes in for the dunk. And the San Antonio spurs have done it. There will be a new champion in the NBA.

[Jack Armstrong]

A new era has dawned.

[Joe Getty]

It's Wendy's West. The spurs are going to the NBA final. Yep, that's going to be exciting. Spurs, Knicks, if you like basketball. And I love the idea of Wembiana playing at Madison Square Garden in front of all those stars. And if he can win it. I. If they win, it'll be because of him. And he'd be the mvp. He'd be the second youngest player to ever lead a team to an NBA championship. Magic Johnson was 20 when he led the Lakers to the championship. Twenty, wow, that is young. But when beyond is only 22, that'll be fun to watch. So we'll get to this a little bit later, but I figured this would happen. They got Jill Biden a super softball interview for her first interview, rolling out her new book. First time she's ever really answered questions about that whole period of her husband clearly not capable of being president anymore and all that sort of stuff. Super softball interview yesterday. Well, they're getting harder little by little. And he was. She was on the Today show today, and I'm already reading some of the clips from that. Was he slowing down a little bit when he got tired? Did he stutter a little bit at night? Yeah, sure. But he was still doing the job and he was doing a good job to the whole. She didn't see him, you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Flagging at all. Did he stutter a little bit at night? Oh, my God. Going with the stutter. Still claiming that. That. That was it. What? The guy's got a stutter anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

That I had a. Kev care.

[Joe Getty]

As she does more interviews, Will. And. And I have a feeling she's going to get pressed more and more as she does more. Stephen A. Smith on CNN yesterday blasting some of our answers as ridiculous. And everybody's got the same take on that whole I thought he was having a stroke thing. It's either a lie or you're a bad human being. Those are the only two options. You're either lying that you thought he was having a stroke, or you're a horrible human being. That said, I think he's having a stroke, but I'm gonna take him out to the Waffle House later anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you're. You. If you were to accept that scenario as even being conceivable, you'd be a terrible human being and a moron. Because if you were gonna use the guy, you'd want to get him treatment for his stroke so you could continue to use him. Leaving a stroke untreated is not a strategy for anyone.

[Joe Getty]

So that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That, that idea is so completely implausible. I mean, which obviously, you know, it's just almost a hilarious lie. Only the st. Stupid, though, could believe it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the interview. Chick. Lady. Chick. She's 65 years old. But the woman interviewing Joe Biden, 75.

[Jack Armstrong]

If she was a day on CBS

[Joe Getty]

yesterday just said, oh, really? That must have been scary.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was two old bats chatting that it was ridiculous. It wasn't journalism in any shape or form.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, maybe more on that later. Jill's going to do more interviews and they're going to get harder the further she goes along. Big race, two big races in California for governor and for mayor of Los Angeles. The one for mayor for LA has gotten more attention for whatever reason. Part of it because Spencer Pratt and, and his style, his freewheeling Trump like style and all the cool AI ads he's put out and everything like that. But he's done a couple more interviews pretty much constantly leading up to the primary tomorrow. Running against the sitting mayor, Karen Bass, here's a little Spencer Pratt.

[Spencer Pratt]

When you vote for me, it's gonna just be a mandate and change. Enough is enough. I'm the one with compassion no matter what these people tell you. I don't want people dying on the street. I don't want our tax money going to needles to kill these people. I want to get them in treatment. I want to help them. I want to help the dogs. I have a heart. I don't know what's going on in the city of la, but I do care and I'm going to continue to care and I'm going to fight for, if it is eight years to make all the changes we need. It'll be eight years.

[Joe Getty]

It's worked for a long time. The whole. If you want to do anything about drug addicts on the street, you're hard hearted and mean. As opposed to we'll just let the population grow and let them live on the street. That's the compassionate one.

[Jack Armstrong]

And let them die of overdoses. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

He goes on.

[Spencer Pratt]

This is the greatest state in the whole country. This is the best city in the nation and we can get it to be the number one place on earth. But we got to fight. We, we just can't sit back. Everyone needs to do their part, I'll do mine. But I need everyone to come together and we'll change it together.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so what's his opponent, his likely opponent? Because I think tomorrow, according to the polls, it's going to be narrowed down to him and the sitting mayor, Mayor Bass. This is what she's had to say.

[Karen Bass]

Well, I think for the undecided voters to understand that they have a choice to make and that choice is a reality TV villain. Really, how did that work for us

[Jack Armstrong]

on a national level?

[Karen Bass]

That's one choice. The other choice is A city council person who's been in City hall twice as long as I have.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so she's building up the other competitor in the race who's a distant third in the polling currently. Whatever her name is. I forget.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's. Yeah. Democratic Socialist of America.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole.

[Joe Getty]

Trump was a reality star, so. Because this guy was on a reality.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Good argument. More from the mayor to me, that's

[Karen Bass]

one of the most important issues in our city is people feeling safe. You can't feel safe that there's an encampment there. It's not safe for the people in the encampment, and it's not safe for the people around. How do you do business?

[Joe Getty]

What? I don't know what her point was there. I don't know what that clip was. There are encampments because you've allowed the encampments to be there. So I'd need to hear that in context. Wow. I saw one.

[Jack Armstrong]

She will get the stupid vote. The stupid. I always vote Democrat vote.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, I don't know if it's all stupid people. It's. It's people who just are scared to death of ever changing party or feel like they'd be betraying their family and friends or something if they ever voted for a different party. It's. It's that.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the word? Stupid.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway. I'm listening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

We're gonna narrow it down to the two tomorrow. I would guess Spencer Pratt and the sitting mayor.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm looking at the San Francisco Chronicles endorsement of Scott Wiener, who's one of the worst people on earth. He wants man boy love and sex changes for confused autistic children and just, you know, legalized prostitution. Streetwalkers walking by your kids school and gosh, where's their summary? Do you want vibes or do you want a man who will fight for the things that matter? LGBTQ protections, health care, blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

And he wants to replace Nancy Pelosi in her congressional seat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right, I'm not even gonna.

[Joe Getty]

Which Nancy Pelosi held since pre electricity.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's correct too. God dang it. This is so annoying. And your sight sucks.

[Joe Getty]

Chronicle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Throw that into the indictment. It's unusable. All right, good. Finally got away from it. Yeah. So you asked yesterday or last hour, will California become more like Texas or will Texas become more like California over time? Yeah. I'm trying not to let my father be the wishes of my thoughts. I see signs of turnarounds in, like, Portland for a glimmer. There in Oregon as a whole, a little bit in Washington state, but I don't know. I don't know if the Chronicle is endorsing Scott Effing Wiener. Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So back to the LA mayors race. Spencer Pratt had a good one over the weekend. I thought with they're writing my ads for me. And it was a picture of a one of the voting boxes where you can drop off the votes, which is a ridiculous way to handle an election. Just have a box somewhere where everybody goes and drops whoever wants to drops them off and they go who knows where but the street people, drug addicts sleeping around the box. You had to climb over drug addicts to put your ballot into the box.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that is right in his ads for him.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's a good one. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Is it.

[Jack Armstrong]

They need help, they need compassion. We need funding for homeless programs, answers more than half the electorate of Cal Unicornia.

[Joe Getty]

So before we take a break, you said there was some reaction to my rant. I went on Friday after the show and the One More Thing podcast. It's the cursingest podcast we've ever put out.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if I was horrified.

[Joe Getty]

If you like F bombs, endless F bombs, that's the one to listen to. One More thing. As I was quite angry, as I often am, about trying to deal with websites and do paperwork and all that sort of stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interestingly, we received a number of reactions via email, but a handful of them were folks who have to deal with the VA and have said, I've just given up. I just call now and wait till a human can talk to me because I cannot use the website. Doesn't work. I can't attest to that personally, but I found that very, very troubling.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, one of the ones that stymied me last week was the DMV website. And I just kept doing it over and over again, which is supposed to be the faster, easier way to do it, the way they want you to do it. And it just kept, you know, type in all the information, go through the whole thing every single time. It just cannot process your action at this time. Try again later. Fu and the horse you effing rode in on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've heard that.

[Joe Getty]

But can AI really take over the world when we're still stuck with this? Are those such different categories? They don't have anything to do with each other?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I would be guessing. I liked talking to human beings. It usually went very well.

[Joe Getty]

God dang it. No Kidding. That's never coming back, though. That'll never come back. Hopefully. I guess the only hope is AI gets so good that it'll be like talking to a human being. And they can handle the subtleties of your problem because we all know that's the current. There's no subtlety at all. They give you like three categories to choose from and your problem is not one of those three. So you guess which one's the closest and you go from there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you're right. I. I think about various inquiries I've made to the AI chatbots and they do a good job with subtlety and detail.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, yeah, maybe.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. That'd be something if there's a return to customer service through AI. Now, today we mentioned earlier in the show, Florida just sued Chat GPT. It's the first state suing a big chat bot for being all kinds of bad, including making us dumber. They're suing them for making us dumber.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And I, I didn't have that much headroom already. I don't appreciate it. I like the, the voicemail system. What do you call it? The phone tree. The voice activated. What sits. Whatever the. I love the ones that have gone to a lot of trouble that the. Almost always a woman. Because people tend to get less angry at women. They went to a great deal of trouble to make sure the inflections are very human sounding. Let me check into that for you.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they're every bit as bad as the. Tell me what you're looking for. Change account number. Would you like to check your balance? No. Like to change my number? Would you like to check your balance? Let me work on that. And I. I swear there's a direct correlation between how hard they work on making it sound human and how completely effing not human it is.

[Joe Getty]

You just saying that is making my heart. I wish I had a heart monitor on. I'm sure my heart started beating faster and my blood pressure started going up. God, I hate dealing with that sort of thing. It's so frustrating.

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I don't know, there's some uncanny valley thing happening there to where it's just I. I'm being stymied by something that's kind of human, but not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then the punchline is always having given up on the website. You dial the 800 number and the first thing they tell you on the 800 number is, you know, you can get faster service through the website. I'd like to crawl through that phone and choke you out.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. Yeah, Jill Biden's doing more interviews. Got some hilarious answers, among other things on the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay here Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

We're having a big 250th birthday party for America concert. They announced the lineup. Vanilla Ice. I'm not making that. Vanilla Ice. Milli Vanilli, Morris Day, Bret Michaels. I think this is very admirable about the President. It shows his concern for the unemployed. And then, and then after they announced this all star lineup, a lot of them said no. What are you talking about? We're not playing. That's gotta hurt a lot when you can't close the deal with Milli Vanilli.

So I didn't follow this story of the weekend. I just saw the headlines. So were those people booked? And I mean, was that gonna be the show? Eminem and the lead singer from Poison or whatever that is?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or whatever that is, yeah. All right, here's the thing. You got two different groups. The Trump aligned Freedom250 and the bipartisan allegedly Congress established America250 are both like planning separate events. Different events. Okay. The Trump aligned Freedom 250 planned what actually sounded cool. It was a two week long, little more than two week long great American State Fair on the National Mall which would have displays from all the states and what makes them unique and blah blah, blah. And then musical performances including country singer Martina McBride and rocker Brett Michaels.

[Joe Getty]

Well, whoa, did he did some. His. His calendar app said it was 1991 and he had the year wrong. Martina McBride.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

Country music fan.

[Jack Armstrong]

I played all her songs when she

[Joe Getty]

was a big deal working at a bar in the early 90s.

[Jack Armstrong]

Having passed the topmost part of the barrel and the kind of middle. Top of the barrel, in the middle of the barrel and then the lower regions of the barrel. I believe we're at the bottom of the barrel is Bret Michaels.

[Joe Getty]

A Motley Crew. Which one is which hair band is he?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, Poison. Poison. He is. I only know that because I'm looking at a picture of him and he's got a Poison T shirt on.

[Joe Getty]

So I was right the first time. He's poisoned. But he's got to be my age, he's got to be 60 something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something like that. Yeah. Anyway, so it was going to have the displays and 110 foot Ferris wheel. But then within days of the announcement, McBride and Michaels and many of the other performers with saying they didn't know it was a political event. They thought it was like the congressional 250th anniversary thing.

[Joe Getty]

And it wasn't. It was Trump's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Trump responded to this in Trumpian fashion saying, quote, I'm thinking about bringing the number one attraction anywhere in the world, a man who gets much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime and he does so without a guitar, announcing himself as the headliner. And he would just do one of his political rally monologues there at the big America State Fair thingy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, if the competition was Bret Michaels, I think he's a better choice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Lenny truthed out insults toward the third rate artists who'd flaked from the show and it's all kind of ugly.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and getty

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[Joe Getty]

Do you think you could be blinded by love? Of course I could be blinded by love. I hope that I am blinded by love. But that's what, you know, people say what a great president he was. You know, he was kind, he was empathetic, he was strong, he was steady. He, he did things for the good of American people. And I mean, he was, he was a leader on the world stage. And I think that'll be Joe's legacy.

I assume CBS got that first interview by agreeing to certain terms for that interview, which is why it was such a practically puff piece. I mean, yeah, it was, it was embarrassing. But you could have, as the interviewer say, on the day that he dropped out, his approval rating was, I think 37% and, and was very low in his own party and half of Americans

[Jack Armstrong]

thought he was too old and senile.

[Joe Getty]

And then that bother you? Let her respond to that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure she would have blamed the biased conservative media that we all complain about all the time. So Dr. Jill has taken a break from her medical practice to continue the interview circuit and here she is on the Today show talking to one Craig Melvin.

[Craig Melvin]

In the days and weeks after that, you continue to insist that the president was Fine.

[Joe Getty]

How.

[Craig Melvin]

How do you square thinking that he may have had a stroke with what you were saying in the days and weeks after? How do you square that?

[Joe Getty]

So we go to the next event, and I'm thinking, what do I say that will lift him up? That is true. I want to say the things that are true. And so I said, you know, you answered every question. My mind's racing.

[Craig Melvin]

You know, that's a pretty low bar.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and so, you know, I had to sort of lift him up. I mean, I'm his wife. I'm not going to get out on the stage there and say, joe, you really screwed that up. I mean, I. And we have all our supporters there. So, you know, that was my. That's who we are. I mean, as I had to support him, I couldn't come out. And I mean really publicly say, joe, you did a terrible job in that debate.

I like his response. You answered all the questions as a pretty low bar.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is pretty funny.

[Joe Getty]

As opposed to just stand there and look at him.

[Jack Armstrong]

But his question was, how do you square fear?

[Joe Getty]

And he had a stroke.

[Jack Armstrong]

With all the things you said after. We're not talking about publicly. We're. You're trotting them out to campaign event after event. You never went to the doctor. I mean, come on.

[Joe Getty]

Come on. You answered all the questions. Yet on the two of the questions.

Such a great job. You answered every question.

You knew all the. You answered every question. As opposed to just stood there and

[Jack Armstrong]

stared and then babbled incoherently about killing Medicare.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Craig Melvin]

These.

[Joe Getty]

These. These interviews are going to get tougher as she goes along now. Maybe she's cutting off after just a couple of days, I don't know. But she's done. She did CBS puff piece yesterday. Today's show sounds a little tougher. Think she's doing cnn? I don't. I don't know how many more she's gonna do.

[Jack Armstrong]

When's she doing Morning Joe, do you know?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tomorrow. Okay, so here's the way this is gonna go. And then we'll play another clip. She is going to go one interview too long.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yep.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

As the questions get more pointed. And that will be a veritable blood.

[Joe Getty]

A.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the word?

[Joe Getty]

A.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it'll be a bloodbath in terms of embarrassment and sputtering and anger and the rest. It'll be terrible. And then she will announce she's not doing any more interviews except carefully selected

[Joe Getty]

ones like happened with us. We were supposed to interview Monica Lewinsky and Somebody hit her with some like, really, really hard questions and she canceled the rest of the. She didn't do any more interviews. That was like an hour before we going to talk to her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or like when you were so rude to America's ice princess, Tanya Harding, and you ended her press junket. She wouldn't do any more interviews after that. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Because I did the awful thing I wanted to talk about. I mean, this is a gazillion years ago now, but her and Nancy Kerrigan. I'm not here to talk about that. To which my reply was, that's the only reason has anybody has any interest in you whatsoever is you being tied to that whole story. So if you don't talk about that, what are we doing? And that happens with a lot of people. They don't want to talk about the thing that made them famous. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, here's the, the next clip.

[Craig Melvin]

George Clooney. George Clooney, the actor said at a private fundraiser before the debate, quote, biden was the same man we saw that we all witnessed on that debate stage. Even his former chief of staff said that his memory had worsened over the course of his presidency.

[Joe Getty]

He aged. He did, he got older. And we, we all saw him aging. We, you know, there were the words that he would forget, but, you know, we were all aging.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. It's, you know, it's a half wit making defense of the indefensible.

[Joe Getty]

She sounds sharp, though. How old is she? How much younger is she than Joe? Can you come up with an age on her? Real cook for us. But she, her brain still works, clearly. She's a duplicitous. Yeah. And, and self serving. But her brain seems to work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she thinks she can smile and cajole and just get people to forget what they already know to be true. And it's just, it's, it's, it's. She can't at this point. She's 74.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay. She's quite a bit younger. She's 74. But yeah, her brain still works. Which, the reason I bring that up is that puts away any chance that, you know, she was sliding too and so. Didn't catch on. No, her brain works fine. She understands the whole deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Look, I'm still young and strong as a bull. Everybody knows that about me. But I have friends who are older and my wife has friends who are older. And we know some folks who are dealing with age related memory decline or dementia or that sort of thing. And the idea that the spouse is like, oh, no, everything's Great. Oh, I haven't noticed anything.

[Joe Getty]

Come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

That never happens. Everybody involved is terrified and sad and attuned to every sign.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, maybe not every human being, but, boy, that's in my experience. Nobody's like, glossing over the fact that the person they love more than anybody else in the world is clearly struggling mentally.

[Joe Getty]

So my boys and I went to a breakfast. Usually on Sundays we go eat at the fabulous Poodle Creek Cafe where our Chrome did all this cartoon work. Anywho, we're sitting there on a bench because there's always a wait because it's so amazing. And we're sitting there on the bench and I say, have I never noticed that palm tree before? There's in the middle of winters, California, there's one giant palm tree. And I mean, this is nowhere near where you usually have palm trees. Incredibly tall. I said, look how tall that palm tree is. I've never seen that before. And my kid said, that's. You mentioned that last time we were here. And I said, I did. I said, yeah, you said exactly the same thing. He said, how have I never seen that palm tree before? And there's a sign underneath it that says, this is old.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't forget this palm tree.

[Joe Getty]

There's a sign under it that says something like, this is old Grandpa, or something like that. Planted in 1902. 2. So palm tree's been there for 120 some years, which is really pretty amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And palm trees live that long.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, I didn't know that either, which I said. I said, who knew palm trees moved that long? They said, you do, because you said the same thing about the sign the last time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

So there's two things to that story. One, it's disturbing that I've had that conversation with my kids and I have zero memory of it. I mean, zero. Not even a hint. Secondly, my kids are aware of that. Yeah, they're completely aware of the fact that I've had that. That I've said that before and I don't remember it to the whole Joe Biden thing. The fact that Hunter or Jill never noticed him being that way. Come on. It's hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they're both still claiming that, you know, it's a family of liars in a profession of liars. Bingo. And they're still. Thank you, sir. And they're still lying. I think that it's as simple as that. And. And she's trying to sell the books because she needs the money and doesn't want to come off as a Villain and an elder abuser. Although you made the point. You're the only person I've heard say this, and it's absolutely 100% true. If she'd come clean, that's a book I'd have read. I'd have bought it in a hardcover, man.

[Joe Getty]

Oh. Oh, no kidding. No kidding. She's got the most interesting book potentially out there, right? She's gonna be loyal to her husband.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe after he dies, maybe she decides, you know what? Now it's done. I'm gonna get rich.

[Jack Armstrong]

Still gonna need money. Hunter will be hitting her up every week or two. Hey, Mom. Hey. Taking more art classes? Can you send me a thousand bucks? Maybe. I don't know. Even 500 would be good. Come on. Come on, Mom.

[Joe Getty]

How disturbed do you think I should be about that tree story? I mean, I'm 61, not 81. It doesn't seem like that should be happening yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you. You have challenges with memory. Do you remember this? I'm asking that. Your chemotherapy. I don't know. I can't remember if that was long or short. Well, your.

[Joe Getty]

Your treatment for cancer. Yeah, I had cancer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy. Well, that affects it. And then lack of sleep because you never get enough sleep.

[Joe Getty]

True. That's true.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't drink anymore.

[Joe Getty]

No. I gotta admit, the tree one bothered me. It's like I've mentioned that tree before, and they said. Yes, yes. We had this conversation, like, six months ago. You said, I can't believe I've never noticed that tree before. And then you mentioned that sign. So. Are you sure? Because I have no memory of this whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm not entirely comfortable with this conversation on the air, if you want to know the truth.

[Joe Getty]

Why? What do you think lawyers are going to get involved or.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no. No lawyers.

[Joe Getty]

Well, tell me why you're uncomfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Few lawyers.

[Joe Getty]

That makes this more interesting. Radio. The fact that you're uncomfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. I can't be cajoled and talking about it.

[Joe Getty]

Say anything you want, because here's the good thing. Thing. Oh, I'll forget that you said it. I could hide my own Easter eggs. I. I mean, I seriously could. I told my kids that yesterday. I said I honest to God, could hide my own Easter eggs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Enough said. Does that concern you? Yes, of course it does.

[Joe Getty]

But the doctors. When I've ever. I brought it up to doctors, they're like, I told you. The one is the forgetting where you put your keys is fine. Forgetting what you use the keys for is when you have a problem. Okay, well, I'M not that level. I've never grabbed my car keys and said, what are these for? I know they're from my car, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Yeah. Well, that's a great, that's a great dividing line. If that's the case, then don't worry about it.

[Joe Getty]

Who cares if you don't remember mentioning that tree? Maybe it's just a, it's not remarkable enough to stick it. My, my brain is saying at this point, you've seen a lot of trees in your life. This is not one to file away. We got other more important things to remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I was just about to make semi a joke. You know, maybe the conversation wasn't worth remembering. Yeah, they're passing the time waiting for our table.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that could be.

[Jack Armstrong]

It didn't sink in.

[Joe Getty]

We have some pretty big financial news that just broke that we can hit you with. There are going to be some of the biggest IPOs in the history of investing opportunities coming up and a new one just got announced, among other things on the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Jill not only brought him to that rally, but when that was over same night she said he had a stroke. She dragged his corpse to Waffle House. House for real.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look at this video of them at Waffle House.

[Joe Getty]

One in the morning at a freaking Waffle House. They're walking around and she's got to get him out of there before he picks a fight with Corn Pop.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I will be fair to her about one thing. They only went to Waffle House to buy some crack for Hunter in the parking lot.

[Joe Getty]

Drag his corpse to Waffle House is a pretty funny line.

[Jack Armstrong]

Uncharitable.

[Joe Getty]

So this is breaking news. Anthropic is one of your biggest AI companies. They're the one behind Claude. They have have confidentially filed apparently not that confidential because it's out in the New York Times for an ipo. An initial public offering becoming the latest to join which what? Which is going to be a once in a generation money making moment on Wall street when anthropics, IPO, SpaceX and OpenAI all hit at the same time. Three of the biggest IPOs in the history of investing, all happening at the same same time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know there's quite the race between OpenAI and and anthropic to be the first for reasons that Wall Streeters could explain to you.

[Joe Getty]

So I didn't know this. Anthropic officially passed OpenAI last week as the most valuable AI startup now valued at $900 billion as opposed to open AI 730 billion. So anthropic is now bigger than Chat GPT or Claude's bigger than Chat GPT.

[Jack Armstrong]

I suppose they made money.

[Joe Getty]

I still think a Chat GPT is a leader, but they are not. The IPO would be among the biggest ever along with SpaceX and open AI. And it's going to create a tsunami of investment and employee wealth and quite possibly mint the very first trillionaire in world history. Elon Musk, who's got 50 of space X. More details to come on this whole story. I was just reading about the whole stock options thing with Space SpaceX. This was on Elon's own Twitter feed. They gave a lot of employees stock options and stuff early on when they couldn't pay him when they were a startup. He said, there's a bunch of people that are going to end up crazy wealthy soon. They've been working for the company for a long time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why didn't I work at SpaceX?

[Joe Getty]

Why didn't I become an engineer that

[Jack Armstrong]

Elon wanted to hire? See, I have no skills or aptitude as part of it. Even if I did have the skills, I'm probably too lazy to do it

[Joe Getty]

the way Elon wanted me to do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, skills, aptitude or attitude necessary. Other than that,

[Joe Getty]

wow. Of course this has all got to pan out at some point. Kind of the way they think it's going to,

[Jack Armstrong]

well, pan out. I mean, they could easily pivot. Maybe somebody decides, ah, turns out Mars is full of poison gas and kill everybody. Never mind. But

[Joe Getty]

oh, I wasn't thinking of SpaceX. I was thinking the chat bot people, the AI stuff, that's all going to pan out the way they think it's going to, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or these will be enormous crash.

[Joe Getty]

These will make. This will make pets.com seem like nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Make pets.com seem like Apple. Yeah, yeah, absolutely true. It's all a bit of a gamble. It's going to be the biggest thing ever. Or the biggest Disappointment ever.

[Joe Getty]

I'm hoping for the latter, actually.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am too.

[Joe Getty]

And we were wrong about AI. There's never going to be artificial general intelligence. Sorry about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just gonna stay way better than Google. That's it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's just gonna be a really good Google. And it's not going to take over the world and eliminate jobs and upend all of mankind and then perhaps destroy us. Not gonna happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although AI is already a fundamental part of some advanced weapon systems and defensive systems,

[Joe Getty]

so it's gonna be big.

[Jack Armstrong]

It just might not be big. Big, big like everybody's betting on.

[Joe Getty]

I got another comment on that, but I'll save it for my final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, folks, it says it's time for.

[Jack Armstrong]

For Final Thoughts with Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. Hopefully afterward maybe we can go out and slot five and get some ice cream. Just, just have a good old time.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you, Joe. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. There he is, pressing buttons in the control room. Control room. Michelangelo. Michael, final thought? Yeah.

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[Jack Armstrong]

But it's amazing how bad the common cold can make you feel.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yep. Under remarked upon. It's common because it happens a lot, not because it's not misunderstood. Miserable.

[Jack Armstrong]

It ought to be called the miserable cold. Yeah. Jack, final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. This has been said many times, but the fact that many of the leaders in AI including like the grandfather, that Hinton guy, or Elon Musk, put the chance of AI destroying humanity somewhere between like 20 and 30%. That's so crazy that we all just ignore them.

[Jack Armstrong]

That yeah, something was going to destroy us. That's what I say. My final thought is I learned to play mahjong over the weekend. Judy taught me, my daughter and my daughter's law school friend. And we played and played and played. Now I understand the ancient Chinese game and I am a pretty skilled mahjonger. Although I was so confused at the beginning, I said to her, great, after this I'm going to learn calculus in Russian.

[Joe Getty]

Are there cards, Cards involved or what is.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are tiles, Jack. Tiles.

[Joe Getty]

Tiles. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. With the mysterious ancient Chinese symbols.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks. A little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com for the hot links. Go there to drop us a Note [e-mail] and pick up Smain G Swag a fabulous T shirt, hat or hoodie.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like we should talk to some business expert about all these IPOs that are headed our way because I

[Jack Armstrong]

think I love that ipo. Wonder if Jim Tankersley is available. He's always helpful.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe a good one. Anyway, we'll have all the latest for you tomorrow. It's election day in California tomorrow. See you then. God Bless America, Armstrong. And get it David Sanger of the New York Times. Well sourced. Saying the same thing you came up with up the top.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well endowed but not well sourced. That's my reputation.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow. What happened over the weekend that made you need to slip that in?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't care anymore. I've become completely cynical. I'm a nihilist. Armstrong and getty

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