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Joe Getty
Congress shall make no law. Yada yada yada. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing.
Jack Armstrong
Joe, Just yada yada yada.
Joe Getty
James Madison Talking about the 14th Amendment during the show. Yeah, did you? Just yada yada yada. The Bill of Rights.
Katie
You did.
Joe Getty
We were Talking about the 14th Amendment and the question of birthright citizenship, which is a hot conversational topic these days and actually really interesting. And I mentioned that the 14th amendment is actually five paragraphs long and it would take a long time to read to you. The first part is about all persons born are naturalized, yada yada yada. The birthright thing. Second part is representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according their respective numbers, blah, blah, blah.
Jack Armstrong
But the next part's about streaming contracts, which is really weird, right?
Joe Getty
Exactly. Yep. You got to be able to cancel them. Third one's about senators and Congress, people who may or may not have been involved in an insurrection or rebellion. You remember that one came up. You know, after January 6th and a couple more paragraphs, nobody knows. But I was looking at the amendments and it would appear that in a close race, the shortest Amendment is the 8th Amendment. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Jack Armstrong
Cruel or unusual.
Joe Getty
Cruel and unusual.
Jack Armstrong
And unusual.
Joe Getty
Right. And you know my theory, they can.
Katie
Be one or the other.
Joe Getty
Cruel and unusual. Right. If it's merely cruel, but you do it a lot, that's fine. And if, you know, a beating from a clown is certainly unusual, but it's no more cruel than any other sort of beating. Fair game clown beatings would be approved in the court of Joe Getty's justice.
Jack Armstrong
So you run somebody over with a car. People get hit by cars all the time. There's nothing unusual about that.
Joe Getty
Now it's cruel, unspeakably cruel, but not unusual. I think we're missing a loophole here, folks, but I think everybody knows the. My God, I almost said one of the stupidest thing things I've ever said. I think everybody knows what's in the Bill of Rights. No, obviously most people don't. You should, but you don't, which is why you end up quartering troops, you jackasses. Study history.
Jack Armstrong
I just learned the other day jams James Madison was really against a Bill of Rights. Really thought it was a terrible, terrible idea. But then when the vote went against him, he, like we should do more often now decided, okay, well, that's been decided. Now I'm going to argue what they ought to be because it's going to happen even though I didn't want it to happen in the first place.
Joe Getty
And indeed, he brought it to the floor of the House immediately because he said he would.
Jack Armstrong
The reason he didn't like the Bill of Rights is he is afraid that now that makes it seem like Outside of these 10 things, everything else the government can do. That was his concern.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. I think history is proof that he was wrong. He's a real statesman and. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Tiny, tiny little idiot. I've never seen a smaller founding father.
Katie
Oh, boy.
Joe Getty
Not a long hitter. James Madison. So everybody knows. Freedom of religion, press, expression. The first right to bear arms. Quartering of soldiers. That's the third.
Jack Armstrong
I don't have to go to soldiers. Oh, man. When I get home, I got some news for those guys. Get out of my house.
Joe Getty
Can I get my stuff at least? It'll. I'll ship it to you. Search and seizure, trial and punishment, compensation for takings. That's the Fifth Amendment. Everybody knows. The part about how you don't have to testify against yourself. But that's actually one of many things mentioned in the Fifth Amendment.
Jack Armstrong
I didn't know that. I should read that over.
Joe Getty
I'd forgotten it. It's one of those things. I had to memorize it at one point. But here's the entirety of the Fifth Amendment. I thought this was interesting. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger. Nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb. Double jeopardy, straight out of the Fifth Amendment. Nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.
Jack Armstrong
That's the. That's the wheel of fortune after the jeopardy portion. It's the wheel of fortune portion.
Joe Getty
Correct. Nor be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. That's where that very famous phrase let. Comes from due process. Nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.
Jack Armstrong
Which we like.
Joe Getty
To the Fifth Amendment.
Jack Armstrong
We aren't always good at. Where's the thing where you can't testify against your husband or wife or you don't have to. Was that in the Bill of Rights?
Joe Getty
No.
Jack Armstrong
Somewhere.
Joe Getty
Yeah. That's just in case law. I don't. I wish I knew.
Jack Armstrong
But why can't you testify against your husband or wife? No. There are no other relationships like that you can testify.
Joe Getty
Oh, you can.
Jack Armstrong
You can, but you can't.
Joe Getty
You can't be required. But how come you in some situations.
Jack Armstrong
But you can be required to testify against your kids or your kids against you, but not husband and wife.
Joe Getty
What is the. I was just talking to my law student daughter about this the other day and I don't remember exactly because of you.
Jack Armstrong
You and Judy's big Ponzi scheme and you're worried about.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah. I tell you what. The. The second the cops are here, I go states. She was running it. She made me do it right under the. Enjoy, honey. Hope you're comfortable under there. Oh, let's see. So I think the longest of the amendments I can find is. Is probably the 12th about choosing the president. Vice president. They had to clarify how that was going to work. But man, they get long. The 14th is long. Five paragraphs long. Liquor abolished. Bastards.
Jack Armstrong
What number is that?
Joe Getty
You suck. That's the 18th.
Jack Armstrong
And did you say it is long or is it short? No more booze.
Joe Getty
Party's over.
Jack Armstrong
Jackasses. That's what that one's called?
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's. It's long and boring. Just like a world without alcohol. There are three shortish paragraphs.
Jack Armstrong
And then how soon after that one is the one that says party's back on the 21st?
Joe Getty
God bless it. Actually the. The 18th was ratified in 1919 and it was repealed in 1933. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
I always forget how long that period was.
Joe Getty
Of no favorite. Some of my favorite writings by H.L. mencken were written during prohibition when he would describe how Congress people and senators. Washington, D.C. you could get a drink practically as easy as you can right now. It was everywhere. Because the senators were never going to hold themselves to the same standards. They were just doing it because it was politically popular. It was a popular movement among women when women first got the right to vote because so many of their husbands would come home hammered drunk and either be useless or violent or have spent all the money at the bar.
Jack Armstrong
Your people, Katie, took. Took away our party.
Katie
Yeah, because of what your people put us through every day by being drunk a holes.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, if your people weren't all day long, maybe I wouldn't need a drink.
Katie
Well, if you would do some things around the house, maybe we wouldn't all the time.
Joe Getty
Oh my God. Give me a bottle. Where's the bottle? I think that was enlightening.
Jack Armstrong
Boardwalk Empire. If you never watched that series with Steve Buscemi, really great portrayal of the those years.
Joe Getty
19Th amendment, women's suffrage. That was ratified in 1920.
Jack Armstrong
Man. Need a do over on that one.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So again, women's voting and prohibition came up at the same time. Although admittedly, liquor was abolished just before the year before women got the right to vote.
Katie
One of my favorite places near the Radio Ranch in San Francisco was an old prohibition bar. And the owner took us down into their. Their storage room one day and all of the old tunnel doors were all welded shut because they used to move alcohol underneath San Francisco in this tunnel system. But it was really cool.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite liquor stores was named 22nd Amendment Liquors, which I always. I'm sorry, not 21st Amendment. Yeah, yeah. 22nd is presidential term limits. That'd just be a weird name.
Jack Armstrong
Went to a bar named after term limits.
Joe Getty
Oh, by the way, ladies, keep in mind 19th amendment. We gave you the right. We can take it away anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, it's on a as needed basis.
Joe Getty
Let's see. Name the last amendment. I'll tell you that. It's the 27th. Does anybody remember what it is?
Jack Armstrong
Well, the last one is the 28th as declared by Joe Biden a week ago.
Joe Getty
Yeah, we could go today. That's right. On Twitter. I wish I'd more carefully read Article 2 about the presidency. Turns out it says, let me flip to. The president shall, at the time of his choosing, enact new amendments to the Constitution on Twitter.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
Joe Getty
What a senile nut job.
Jack Armstrong
What is number two? Seven.
Joe Getty
Limiting congressional pay increases. Ratified in 1992.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Joe Getty
Essentially you don't get a raise until another round of elections is held. You can vote one in, but you don't get it.
Jack Armstrong
You know, our friend Tim thinks there should be more amendments that. That we are. We have been. We've made it too difficult. It seemed like. Acted like. It's just too big a crazy a deal to ever talk about amendments.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I would agree. I mean, you spend 250 years doing something, you ought to get better at it. Figure out. Oh, we forgot this. I would like to see some stuff clarified, like the 14th Amendment, the birthright, citizenship. All I want is added on if the parents have legal status in the United States. You can't just sneak in.
Jack Armstrong
All I know. I'm glad you read that. When I get home, there are some soldiers sleeping soundly in my bed who are gonna not gonna be happy to hear what I now know.
Joe Getty
I will quarter you no longer, Jebediah.
Jack Armstrong
I declare on this 24th day, January 2025. That is it.
Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: Congress Shall Make No Law Yada Yada Yada... Release Date: January 24, 2025
In the January 24, 2025 episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Joe Getty and Jack Armstrong delve into the complexities of the U.S. Constitution, focusing particularly on the Bill of Rights and subsequent amendments. The discussion is peppered with humor and sharp commentary, making intricate legal topics accessible and entertaining for the audience.
The episode opens with Joe Getty referencing the iconic phrase from the 1st Amendment, humorously blending it with the show's own tagline:
Joe Getty [00:00]: "Congress shall make no law. Yada yada yada. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing."
This segues into a detailed yet lighthearted examination of the 14th Amendment, particularly its provisions on birthright citizenship—a topic of significant contemporary debate.
Joe Getty [00:20]: "We were Talking about the 14th Amendment and the question of birthright citizenship, which is a hot conversational topic these days and actually really interesting."
The hosts break down the amendment's five paragraphs, highlighting its various clauses from naturalization to the disqualification of individuals involved in insurrection. They humorously critique the amendment's content, blending factual discussion with witty banter.
Transitioning to the 8th Amendment, Joe Getty offers a provocative theory on its interpretation:
Joe Getty [01:28]: "Cruel and unusual. If it's merely cruel, but you do it a lot, that's fine. And if, you know, a beating from a clown is certainly unusual, but it's no more cruel than any other sort of beating."
Joe Getty [01:36]: "Fair game clown beatings would be approved in the court of Joe Getty's justice."
Jack Armstrong chimes in with a humorous analogy:
Jack Armstrong [01:56]: "So you run somebody over with a car. People get hit by cars all the time. There's nothing unusual about that."
The hosts engage in a comedic exploration of the amendment's intent versus its real-world application, poking fun at potential loopholes and the often murky waters of legal interpretations.
Joe Getty reflects on the general public's understanding of the Bill of Rights, fervently encouraging listeners to study history:
Joe Getty [02:01]: "I think we're missing a loophole here, folks, but I think everybody knows the. My God, I almost said one of the stupidest thing things I've ever said. I think everybody knows what's in the Bill of Rights. No, obviously most people don't. You should, but you don't, which is why you end up quartering troops, you jackasses. Study history."
Jack Armstrong provides an anecdote about James Madison's initial opposition to the Bill of Rights, adding humor to historical facts:
Jack Armstrong [02:29]: "I just learned the other day jams James Madison was really against a Bill of Rights. Really thought it was a terrible, terrible idea."
The segment underscores the importance of constitutional literacy, wrapped in the hosts' signature comedic style.
The conversation shifts to the 5th Amendment, where Joe Getty recites its clauses with a blend of seriousness and humor:
Joe Getty [03:09]: "Not a long hitter. James Madison. So everybody knows. Freedom of religion, press, expression. The first right to bear arms. Quartering of soldiers. That's the third."
He proceeds to detail the amendment, emphasizing clauses like double jeopardy and self-incrimination:
Joe Getty [04:20]: "Double jeopardy, straight out of the Fifth Amendment. Nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."
Jack Armstrong interjects with a playful take on general knowledge versus legal specifics:
Jack Armstrong [04:33]: "But why can't you testify against your husband or wife? No. There are no other relationships like that you can testify."
This segment highlights the complexities of legal protections in everyday relationships, presented through engaging dialogue.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the 18th Amendment, which instituted Prohibition. The hosts explore its historical context and eventual repeal with a mix of nostalgia and critique:
Jack Armstrong [06:04]: "And did you say it is long or is it short? No more booze."
Joe Getty [06:06]: "Party's over."
Jack Armstrong [06:10]: "Party's back on the 21st?"
Joe Getty reminisces about the era, referencing H.L. Mencken's writings and the widespread illegal alcohol trade:
Joe Getty [06:43]: "Some of my favorite writings by H.L. mencken were written during prohibition when he would describe how Congress people and senators. Washington, D.C. you could get a drink practically as easy as you can right now."
The discussion underscores the unintended consequences of Prohibition, blending historical insights with the hosts' characteristic humor.
Towards the episode's conclusion, the conversation shifts to more recent amendments, including the often-overlooked 22nd and fabricated 27th Amendments for comedic effect:
Joe Getty [08:27]: "One of my favorite liquor stores was named 22nd Amendment Liquors, which I always. I'm sorry, not 21st Amendment. Yeah, yeah. 22nd is presidential term limits. That'd just be a weird name."
Jack Armstrong humorously remarks on the impracticality of such names and the difficulty in passing new amendments:
Jack Armstrong [09:38]: "You know, our friend Tim thinks there should be more amendments that. That we are. We have been. We've made it too difficult."
Joe Getty expresses a desire for constitutional clarity, particularly regarding the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship:
Joe Getty [09:58]: "I'd like to see some stuff clarified, like the 14th Amendment, the birthright, citizenship. All I want is added on if the parents have legal status in the United States. You can't just sneak in."
The segment highlights ongoing debates about constitutional interpretation and the challenges of amending foundational laws.
The episode wraps up with lighthearted banter and fictional declarations, maintaining the show's engaging and humorous tone:
Jack Armstrong [10:20]: "All I know. I'm glad you read that. When I get home, there are some soldiers sleeping soundly in my bed who are gonna not gonna be happy to hear what I now know."
Jack Armstrong [10:34]: "I declare on this 24th day, January 2025. That is it."
Understanding Amendments: Joe Getty and Jack Armstrong provide an entertaining breakdown of various constitutional amendments, making complex legal concepts approachable.
Historical Context: The discussion on Prohibition and the 18th Amendment offers valuable historical insights alongside humor, illustrating the unintended consequences of legislative actions.
Constitutional Literacy: The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding the Bill of Rights and subsequent amendments, encouraging listeners to engage with foundational governmental texts.
Humor in Discourse: Throughout the episode, humor serves as a vehicle to engage listeners while addressing serious topics, maintaining an informative yet entertaining atmosphere.
For those interested in the nuanced and often humorous exploration of constitutional law and history, this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers both enlightenment and entertainment.