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And now he Armstrong and Yeti. We are not here, but you're hearing our voices. It's an Armstrong and Getty replay.
Jack Armstrong
Oh man, this hour is good. I say some really insightful and or hilarious stuff this hour. I can't wait to hear it again myself, really. Now back to the Armstrong and Getty replay.
Joe Getty
This absolutely fascinating the slavery story you won't learn in school. It's a review and discussion of a book entitled Captives and A History of Slavery and the Slave Trade in the Islamic World by Justin Merazi and actually the reviewer, whose name is Tanku Voradarajan. Can't believe I got through that makes it clear. A number of paragraphs in look, this is in no way some sort of trying to excuse the transatlantic slave trade. It's just perspective. And perspective is never a bad thing. I'll read some of it to you. Jump in anytime you want. Interrupt for historians of human enslavement, and for black Africans more generally, the recently concluded African Nation Soccer cup revealed images of an ugliness that has roots in the Muslim world's trans Saharan slave trade. They mentioned at the Senegal, Morocco final sections of the Moroccan crowd hurled racial insults at the Senegalese, just as Algerian spectators had earlier in the tournament when their team was beaten by Nigeria. Get the black slave Affronted, Algerian soccer fans chanted anyway. In Captives and Companions, Justin Morozi offers an engrossing and depressing account of this cross Saharan trade in slaves. This won't be depressing on the show. It was conducted the Cross Saharan trade enslaved was conducted largely unmolested by the Arabs and Ottoman Turks for 1400 years.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
Targeting eastern, central and western Africa, the violent capture, trafficking, sale and possession of black Africans by Muslims from the north of the continent, the lands of Arabia and Greater Turkey endured as a practice for far longer than the transatlantic slave and turned many more humans into chattel than did the white European and American slavers and the slave owners of the Western Hemisphere, primarily in Central and South America. As you may know, 17 million of this Muslim slave trade, as opposed to 11 million in the new World. Both numbers are horrific, as is the denial of liberty or of forced labor of any human being. But back in the day, it was practically ubiquitous around the world. Slaves were everywhere, and this number doesn't include the white slaves taken in the hundreds of thousands by Barbary pirates from Ireland, Spain and Italy, and by the Ottomans from Greece, the Caucasus, and the oft ravaged Slavic lands, about whom Morosi writes with as much sympathy and humanity as he does those who are abducted from black Africa. No humanity toward blacks was shown by the many Muslim commentators who had held forth on current affairs and culture in the so called Muslim golden age. Jahis, a literateur and commentator from the 9th century, wrote disparagingly of black Africans called the Zanj by Arabs, like the crow among mankind or the Zanj, for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament. Then he gets into the no comparison is intended to minimize the vileness of the Western slave trade self evident. But it is worth noting that modern day criticism, criticisms of slavery, including demands for reparations, are voiced at a much lower volume by the descendants of those who are on the receiving end of slavery in the Islamic world, if they are voiced at all. Any name check Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, where you have no constitutional protections and you can't ask for anything really. And then he points out, forget criticism of Arab on African slavery. There is scarcely enough basic scholarship on the subject when compared to the academic outpourings on white on African enslavement. Morose quotes the late John Hunwick, a pioneering scholar of Islam in sub Saharan Africa, who wrote for every gallon of ink that has been spilt on the transatlantic slave trade and its consequences, for every gallon, one very small drop has been spilt on the study of the forced migration of black Africans into the Mediterranean world of Islam and the broader question of slavery within Muslim societies. And this guy is one of the foremost historians of the Arab world, both ancient and modern. As late as oh, slavery in the Muslim world has demonstrated, he tells us, extraordinary longevity continuing well into the modern era. As late as the early 1950s. The 1950s, the first workers in the Qatari oil sector were enslaved men. The last countries to formally abolish slavery are all of the Muslim world. Iran in 1929, Yemen and Saudi Arabia in 1962, Turkey in 1964, Oman.
Jack Armstrong
Saudi Arabia got rid of slavery three years before I was born, correct?
Joe Getty
Yes. Turkey in 64, Oman in 1970 and most notoriously Mauritania, which abolished slavery as recently as 1981, 12 years after man set foot foot on the moon, the last country to outlaw slavery in the Western hemisphere was Brazil in 1888. And although slavery predates Islam, which is dated to have begun in 610 A.D. the practice received divine blessings from the Quran, the holy book of the Muslims states that the inequality between master and slave is Divinely ordained and writes Morose, acknowledges that we are not all free. Slavery is part of the natural order. The Quran accepts it and is not proposing to abolish it. This was, says Morozi, a most politic position for the newly minted Quran to take. Quote, For a society accustomed to slavery from time immemorial, ruling it out at the outset would have done nothing to make Islam an attractive new alternative to tried and trusted paganism. Polytheism for most people apart, we might imagine, from the slaves. And the prohibition of slavery would have spelled Islam's failure. The Quran also permits a male slave owner to have sex with his female slaves, a godly green light whose terrible modern day consequences include the quote, depraved enslavement and rape of Yazidi women and girls in northern Iraq by so called Islamic State fighters. And there's more of this, but I think you've gotten the main idea.
Jack Armstrong
You know, I don't know if this fits with this or not, but I was watching a Tucker Carlson video with somebody he had on, doesn't matter who, and he gave a little screed that is making the rounds on social media and being attacked in a certain way. But he really had a point. His conclusion I don't agree with, but he really had a point. Tucker was talking about how you travel around western cities and they're all like in decline as opposed to, he said cities in the Middle east and in the east are on the rise and the people there are like proud of their culture and aggressively promoting their culture and want to spread their culture. And although the western cities are in decline, ashamed of their culture, think the
Joe Getty
world would be better off with fewer of them.
Jack Armstrong
That is absolutely true. Now his conclusion that therefore China's system is better or you know, whatever you call the kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are better or whatever. I, you know, that's, that's where it all falls apart to me. But there's no doubt that our culture is constantly apologizing for ourselves and kind of ashamed of our history and you know, be better off if somebody else ran the world because we ignore stuff like what you just said.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, self hatred, you know, ignore it too.
Jack Armstrong
I, I've been saying this for a long time. Is it really necessary all the stuff about, you know, we don't want to whitewash our history and everything like that. Okay, I agree with that, I agree with that generally, but what's the point of emphasizing the worst parts of your history and like spending all your time on that? What are we trying to do.
Joe Getty
What's the opposite of whitewashing? Because that's what academia and the media do all the time. They pretend that the unbelievable achievements of Western civilization didn't happen or Western civilization should get no credit for them or they're deeply ashamed of them because the other stuff. What's the opposite of whitewashing, slander or character assassination? I guess, you know, decadence or. What was that? I had the phrase in my mind. Oh. Affluence often leads to decadence. Decadence meaning characterized by or reflecting a state of moral or cultural decline. F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote a book about that in part. Starred a guy by the name of Jay Gatsby. Perhaps you've read it. But there is something about affluence that causes people to engage in counterproductive navel gazing, obsessive self examination, self flagellation, whipping ourselves, beating ourselves. It makes us feel enlightened or something. I don't know exactly how it works. Psychologically I'm apparently immune to it. I'm acutely aware of virtually every horror that's taken place in the United States. And in the name of the United States, at least plenty to know. Have a realistic view. I could go through the list, but you've heard it a million times and recognize that the Founding Fathers and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Enlightenment are the best things that have ever happened to mankind. Both are true. I don't get you people who.
Jack Armstrong
I don't.
Joe Getty
I just don't get it.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if there's any breaking out of that though that a lot of your, you know, the, the Dubai's of the world and all your Chinese cities, everything like they're, they're aggressively growing, expanding, enthusiastic about themselves and their culture and we're shrinking and, and ashamed.
Joe Getty
Boy, you're. You know that's interesting that you just. That's. It's such a good insight. Just their attitude is forward looking and outward looking and ours. A lot of Western civilization is the opposite. I don't know what to do about it.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly right about that. It's just. His conclusion is wrong.
Joe Getty
Oh his conclusion is bizarre and idiotic,
Jack Armstrong
but yeah, probably paid for by the
Joe Getty
Qataris maybe people who hate this country in Western civilization we could round them up and make them do labor.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Without. No, no, that was a joke. All right, that was a joke. It was a dark joke, but it was a joke. It's clearly a joke.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. Be pretty handy.
Joe Getty
All right.
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Well, isn't that the best way to get organized? It was when I was in fifth grade.
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It's certainly a way to get organized. Yes. Antonio writes, all the Democrats should defect to Iran so they can hate America with their friends. Allah would be proud. I like that idea. This is from Alan on the pronunciation of Iran. Okay? The I can be ire, as in irresponsible. Oh, ear. But R A N is ran, not ron, not ren, not rin. Please say ran when you mean ran. Alan, I got a couple of comments. To you first or for you.
Jack Armstrong
First of all, I don't even know what I say. Iran, I guess I say Iran sometimes.
Joe Getty
You do. The entire world, including Iran, pronounces it Iran. Americans in the 1970s got in the habit of pronouncing it Iran in the same way that at first we said Vietnam and that sort of thing. It's fine. It doesn't really matter. There are some people who say Iran or Iran or Iran. The point is, you are a pedantic person, like to the extreme, because you don't recognize that. I mean, for instance, the entire world, except for you, pronounces it Iran, which again is fine. But for you to, like, correct us when you have no idea what you're talking about. Alan, people don't like you and it's because you're a pedantic, know it all.
Jack Armstrong
You say you're helping him now.
Joe Getty
And if you can rein that in a little bit and just think, yeah, different people, different strokes for different folks. It's helped me in my life and it will help you too, Alan, and I wish you the best. Moving along on the topic, soon it
Jack Armstrong
will be a spot on the map where Iran used to be.
Joe Getty
Yes. Yes. Here is your meme of the day, sent along by Drew. Jack, you'll love this. It's a man talking to. AI holds up a mushroom. Is this mushroom edible? AI says yes. Next. You're right. That mushroom was poisonous. I'm sorry for the confusion. AI says, speaking to his grave. Would you like to learn more about poisonous mushrooms?
Jack Armstrong
I know. I like it when it gets something completely wrong and then it just. It just yada, yada, yada's it.
Joe Getty
Right? Right.
Jack Armstrong
I asked you about it.
Joe Getty
I missed that one.
Jack Armstrong
I asked him about a basketball Game says that game did not happen. And then I say, yes, it did, it happened.
Joe Getty
I watched it. Oh, you're right.
Jack Armstrong
My bad. Wasn't that a great game? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Joe Getty
Actually, if we have time. I'll get to that in a second. But Tommy from New Braunfels, Texas writes on AI and universal high income. I think you're forgetting about human nature. Well, we never forget about human nature, but I'll read on. You're thinking that all these people living on this high basic income will be living in some modest government housing, when in reality it will be some apartment in another government project. They may be happy getting stoned all day, but that won'. When the people want more money to go to work and buy more things and live in a nice private home, the people on welfare will get jealous and want what the workers are getting, then vote to steal that from the workers. Is that starting to sound familiar? Thank you for your attention to this matter, Tommy.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if I believe in the whole forcing the government to put guardrails on this stuff thing or not, but if these masters of the universe, Altman and Elon and everybody are going to go around talking about this plan, I think we should as a population, force them to sit down at a roundtable and explain exactly how this is going to work. Because there's a bunch of details missing.
Joe Getty
Yeah, like one of these, your Senate hearings that aren't a sound bite. You know, just showboat fest. Yeah, a serious discussion of it. I would love that.
Jack Armstrong
There'll be an abundance of giant homes. That doesn't make any sense.
Joe Getty
It really doesn't.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
How's that going to work? Let's get specific. So G, the engineer says, wanted to chime in on something briefly AI related. There have been a number of times on the show that Jack has complained about AI being clueless. Whether it was looking for Marty supreme or the basketball game. The reality is that this is not an issue or failing on the part of the AI. It's actually part of its design. Keep in mind that today's AI is more specifically put in LLM or Large language model. These models are trained using large troves of textual data, be it written works, transcripts or what have you. All this information is commonly referred to as training data. Now to Jack's complaint, the frustration that he that he is feeling stems from what is known as the knowledge cutoff. Basically, the LLM is being asked about specific subjects or events that are outside or simply post date their training data. In other words, the LLM doesn't know anything about Marty supreme because there was no data about the movie included in its training data. Or more simply, the movie came out after the LLMs knowledge cutoff. Same reason it doesn't know about last night's basketball game. But.
Jack Armstrong
But. So like reading James Joyce's Ulysses, I can hit chat GPT with a sentence. I don't even need to say what the book is from. I can say what does this sentence mean? And it'll just jump in and say that's from James Joyce page, blah blah blah blah. And I'm in an instant and I'm like, how in the hell did you figure that out? But then you don't know the basketball game, so I don't.
Joe Getty
I don't. Well, because of what G just explained. Yeah, I still think it's limited weak.
Jack Armstrong
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Realize that there are a lot of individuals in this country that have entered that want to cause harm to Americans. They want to cause harm to our to our country. And amongst those, several of them would have terrorist ties with different terrorist organizations throughout the world.
Jack Armstrong
Do we have a bunch of Iranians sleeper cells in the United States waiting for the order? I gotta say, I'm very, very skeptical of the idea. We're about to hear a report that lays out reasons why I shouldn't be skeptical. It's just my, my skepticism is mostly around what would you be waiting for? How bad would things have to get before you would launch your sleeper cell attack? I mean, it just seems pretty crazy to me that no, not yet. Not yet. What?
Joe Getty
We got another intriguing question.
Jack Armstrong
Got another aircraft carrier coming over there
Joe Getty
and more Marines and Wait till they really start bombing us and killing our leaders, you know, then we'll turn it
Jack Armstrong
around with a couple of terror cell attacks. Anyway, let's hear this report from News Nation because it's pretty interesting.
News Nation Reporter
Authorities say roughly 1500 Iranian nationals were stopped at the border during the Biden administration. But it, that's the unknown number of so called gotaways that has officials sounding the alarm. Our reporting shows, you know, many from Iran are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to criminal networks like cartel linked coyotes to get them across the border. I mean even just last summer, News Nation reported 130 Iranian nationals were arrested in one week alone for trying to enter the US illegally.
Jack Armstrong
And lots of, lots of more let in. He goes on the Trump administration, you
News Nation Reporter
know, they've warned about potential Iranian infiltration as early as last summer, saying the likelihood of an attack by Iranian backed extremists in the US Would increase if Iran's leadership called for retaliatory violence against the US And Israel.
Jack Armstrong
So I'm of two minds on this that are in conflict. My one mind saying, and I said this at the time over and over again when our borders were porous, if Iran and China aren't getting people in here now, they're, they should be charged with malpractice. We have an open border. They have all kinds of reasons to have bad people in our country. Now's the time you'd be crazy to not do it.
Joe Getty
China has many thousands in the country right now.
Jack Armstrong
Of course they do. But are they sleeper cells or spies or whatever? We don't know. But Iran, different story. Only because of my logic problem that I can't imagine. If you've got a sleeper cell that and you think that. I don't understand how you would think that some sort of Iranian attack on anything in the United States is going to help your cause. Any Trump would absolutely just unleash holy hell on you. But what would you be waiting for? What's your timing? This doesn't make any sense at all.
Joe Getty
As I said before, that's a really intriguing question. I'm thinking back to what was uncovered about a couple of different Iranian plots, including the one to assassinate Trump. And assuming that we got, you know, reasonably accurate coverage. I know some of this gotta be classified, but assuming we got decently accurate coverage, it seemed to be hapless. Hapless and idiotic. One of those, you know, like the half wit scheme to, you know, rub somebody out in that damn Tiger King show. It kind of had that feel to it.
Jack Armstrong
Right. The guy goes to a strip club and gets drunk and forgets he was
Joe Getty
supposed to do it and then decides, I'm not going to go anywhere and kill anyone. This is stupid. And given the utter brutality and effectiveness of holding on to power domestically, I don't want to underestimate these people, but wow. I just, I don't know the answer to that question. That's a good question.
Jack Armstrong
But that was from News Nation, not from Fox.
Joe Getty
I will tell you this, and I think most people in counterterrorism would agree with me. And if you're in counterterrorism, we'll certainly keep you anonymous. Let us know if you agree. Email mailbagarmstrongandgeti.com I think they would say the greater threat is from the tens of thousands of would be jihadis or pliable alienated young males from Muslim countries who might seize on this conflict as an excuse to strike back at the Great Satan. Not directly sponsored or directed by Tehran, but just, you know, wanting to do it on their own.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe we'll talk about this more later. The Wall Street Journal with sources close to the president telling them that he's really considering a military SEIZURE of that 1,000 pounds of uranium. And it's laid out on what that would take. It could take many weeks and lots of people. We talked about that a little bit with Mike Lyons because you need to get to the site, secure the site, bring in all kinds of, like, excavation equipment and everything like that and do all the digging while protecting that site. Yeah. I mean, if Iran can be shooting rockets, you know, 1200 miles away, they certainly got plenty of opportunities to shoot rockets into their own country.
Joe Getty
Yeah. At some point, maybe as it gets closer, we ought to get into the question of retrieving that stuff in depth because then there's the transporting of it, which is no simple task. It's extremely dangerous and volatile. But here are a couple of headlines worth seeing. This one, and I keep saying I'm going to feature this on the show every day and maybe we just need a slot. There is a publication website known as the Defense News, which is all about United States military news, all the branches. And I get their early bird brief every day in their top headline today is Pentagon reportedly preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran. We can talk more about that. But another headline, this from the Wall Street Journal. Where is it? It's essentially the same headline. Oh, yeah, I'm having a mouse problem. Maybe I should see a urologist who moved your cheese. I probably misplaced it. Knowing me, Ah, there it is. From the Washington Post. Pentagon prepares for weeks of ground operations in Iran.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, so here's something I learned about the straight of Hormuz yesterday that I didn't know already. It takes six to 10 hours to get a ship through there. This is to the difficulty of, you know, actually having opened up enough that it would be safe for ships to want to go through six to 10 hours. You're going so slow through that whole thing. A sitting duck. And while people talk about it's so narrow, it's only 20 miles wide. The shipping lane, where it's deep enough that you can run your ship is only two miles wide. So you're going really, really slow in a very tiny, little, well defined lane.
Joe Getty
And it's not in the middle either. It's close to the Iran coast.
Jack Armstrong
That is very city sitting ducky.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah. Shooting gallery E. So we would have
Jack Armstrong
to have serious control of that thing to make make safe passage reasonable. So the most interesting thing over the weekend to me that happened was the Houthis engaging in the war again and they started attacking Israel. But the concern is that they shut down the Red Sea. I don't know if you remember this. We talked about it a lot. They shut down the Red Sea traffic for like two years. Why the world put up with that? At the time I was saying, why is the world putting up with this? Why is the United States putting up with us? Why is Europe putting up with it? Why is anybody putting up with the ragtag group that is the Houthis, backed by Iran shutting down the Red Sea? Because they're, they're a real big part of the traffic, too. But so if the Houthis did that to the Red Sea like they did a couple of years ago, at the same time the Strait of Hormuz is shut down, 20% of international traffic, not just oil of all kinds of shipping, would stop, and almost all of it going back and forth between Asia and Europe. And it would be almost instant worldwide serious financial calamity if the Houthis can close down the Red Sea again. So I don't know if Europe at some point is going to decide, you know, this isn't good for our economy. I was just reading the AP story that while the United States economy is weathering the storm so far, for the most part, it's really hurting Europe. Don't their leaders want to do something about this?
Joe Getty
Yes, some of them do very much. But this gets back to something you've been howling about for a very long time. Which is the fact that Europe has gotten so soft and weak because of our security umbrella. Well, this is, we are living right now with. What's the problem with that? Well, what if, says the professor, some crazy conflict broke out and Europe's health was desperately needed. But a, they had weak, flabby, hollowed out militaries. And to the extent that they wanted to cooperate, their populace would not put up with any draining of the giant welfare state to finance their military buildup. That is precisely what's happening in Europe right now.
Jack Armstrong
I had to explain this whole thing to my son because he was wondering about why European countries have universal health care and why we don't. I made this very argument.
Joe Getty
Macron pulled up his panties the other day and announced that France had to, you know, beef up their military and blah, blah, blah, and the country went crazy. They tried. If they try to, you know, raise the retirement age from 30 to 31, friends, the streets melt down, you have giant demonstrations. Oh, my God. The Brits are dealing with the same things. The Germans, similar also. The Germans are a more disciplined society. Yeah, it's, it's, it's precisely the, the case study that we've been, you know, saying would come along, something, something we
Jack Armstrong
got to get to at some point. We won't do it next because we need to lighten up. Francis, did Benjamin Netanyahu shut down Palm Sunday services for Christians? Oh, over the weekend.
Joe Getty
Oh, my God. Big story.
Jack Armstrong
And when I first heard it, I was quite annoyed by it. But there are a bunch of people trying to make it clear that that's not exactly what happened. So let's not go further down the road of trying to drive a wedge between Christians and Jews and make this
Joe Getty
all about Tucker Carlson's cologne in this.
Jack Armstrong
Well, it's kind of an interesting story. It seems to be more of a rogue cop. It actually did happen, the shutting down the Palm Sunday services in Jerusalem at the, whatever that famous church is like most holy of all holy churches. I don't know of the rock. I don't know how to say that word.
Joe Getty
The holy sculptor sepulcher.
Jack Armstrong
I can read it, but I can't say it. But anyway, didn't get to do Palm Sunday because there's been a lot of, you know, attacks and we're worried about you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll worry about myself if I want
Joe Getty
to go to church.
Jack Armstrong
I know there are attacks going on. You don't get to shut it down. But it seems to have been a rogue cop that did this or something. Not Benjamin Netanyahu. And he's out apologizing. It's a pretty big deal though, politically.
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So I came across this Pew poll in which they asked people should marijuana be legal or illegal? And a higher percentage of young people wanted it illegal than older people. And my only guess on that was young people see it as a pretty powerful drug, which it now is, as opposed to like, you know, older hippies who remember the pot from way back in the day, which was a different thing. And we mentioned that just a little bit and we got a ton of emails and I said to Joe off the air that the you and the, the pot world are very similar to like the gun people in that boy, you say anything about it and you come out of the woodwork. Actually what you don't understand is, I mean just very adamant ang angry from the moment of the topic comes up about various angles of it. And I've never quite understood why.
Joe Getty
I've been smoking a silo of pot every single day for 75 years. And I'm a Mensa member and the Nobel prize winner. Okay, great. You know what I often say to people like that when I take the time to respond is Keith Richards. He smoked for what, 50 years? 55 years. He did every drug known to man. Now granted he was getting like pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical, pure drugs, blah, blah. But he was addicted on to heroin for years and years and years. Some people have the constitution that the this is a really terrible idea for the vast majority of people. It doesn't affect them in the same way. They're extremely lucky. Their genetics are exactly right. But for the rest of us, my pot headed friends, the rest of us will do each Other do ourselves enormous damage. If we do what you have been doing, though you've gotten away with it. Your experience is not universal friend. Anyway, so more and more studies are being done on the actual neurological effects of marijuana, especially the powerful stuff of today. Colorado's doing a lot of work on this as they were one of the early legalizers. It affects your coordination in a way that's not great for motor control, balance and coordination. I'm not a gymnast. I don't care.
Jack Armstrong
You are not a gymnast.
Joe Getty
THC also binds to receptors in the hippocampus which plays a critical role in memory formation. One of the brain regions most affected by weed. Anybody who's ever been high knows that affects your at least your short term memory in a way that is funny when you're high. But the whole I didn't do this, I didn't do that, I didn't do that because I got high, because I got it high, because I got high. The great patriot Afroman. That was no joke. I mean it's true. In short, marijuana can disrupt the process of turning short term memories into long lasting ones.
Jack Armstrong
So there's the stuff that the pot does to your brain and it's stronger than it used to be and it particularly before your brain is developed. But what about the fact that I'm just guessing on this, are way more people vaping it than smoking it the way people used to smoke it. And from what I understand, there's a lot of problems that come with vaping. Vaping anything to your lungs and whatnot.
Joe Getty
I don't, I don't know the percentages but yeah, it's terrible for your lungs.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, there's all kinds of terrible things that can happen to you from vaping.
Joe Getty
This one right?
Jack Armstrong
Vaping like came out of nowhere, took over with like not enough talk of hey is this a good idea or not? Everybody, all young people vape. I mean you, you around, you get around a high school parking lot or a college campus, everybody's freaking vaping.
Joe Getty
So full disclosure, when I, Joe Getty was a college student, I smoked more pot than I should have for a couple of years especially I was fairly into it. And I will tell you that with all due respect to our 80 year old potheads who smoke a silo every day, this stuff 100% rings tr the memory stuff and then judgment. The prefrontal cortex responsible for judgment, impulse control and decision making shows reduced activation as well. Specifically, this can fuel smokers to seek out immediate rewards while overlooking long term consequences. Undermining their ability to assess risk and adapt to new information. I remember specifically at one point having a conversation with my sister in the midst of my college days where I had a very, very short term view of the world and was starting to question whether laying the groundwork for long term success was actually worth it. Why bother? Which as I look back on it now, is just insane. I mean, just stupid.
Jack Armstrong
And you think Pop may have had a role in that thinking?
Joe Getty
Having read what I just read, yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense because that's exactly the opposite of what I am and who I am and always have been. And it's weird that I fell into that for a little while. It's the only explanation I can come up with. Maybe I was just in a mood, but I don't know. Marijuana brings the smoke and the brain fog to attention. Hash can make it hard to plan, organize, concentrate and multitask. Blame THC's effect on the prefrontal cortex sensory perception. It does activate, making sound, smell, vision, touch and music feel more immersive and colors more vibrant. That's why a lot of us who are like super into the arts and that sort of thing fall in love with it because THC activates brain regions linked to sensory processing. On the flip side, marijuana can also dull night vision and slow glare recovery, making nighttime driving trickier. Hence the blackout shades while you're high. And then there's the mental health stuff. Yeah, yeah, lights are very bright when you're high. The amygdala, which regulates emotional processing, demonstrates decreased activity in imaging studies. This may contribute to emotional blunting in some individuals. But cannabis use is also associated with increased rates of anxiety, paranoia and psychosis. Particularly in high frequency users are those with genetic vulnerability. Research also shows researchers are at an increased risk of mood changes, panic attacks, depression, addiction, schizophrenia and suicidal ideation. Some of these effects may ease upon quitting marijuana, with research on going into the long term effects of frequent use and neural recovery. That's the one thing I've realized as I get older. The whole I'm going to alter the way my brain works, but it'll be fine because it'll bounce right back. Changes as you get older. And you know, I actually knew a couple of drug casualties who screwed up their brains like in their college years, and I don't know if they ever got it right again. So I tell you what, if, especially if you've ever had a friend or loved one that has problems with their brain chemistry, you get less willing to say, yeah, I'll mess with this because it'll bounce right back because it doesn't always anyway. Smoke them if you got them. It's none of my business.
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This episode of The Armstrong & Getty Show features a replayed hour rich in historical exploration, cultural critique, and lively banter. Main topics include a rarely-taught perspective on the history of slavery in the Islamic world, debates on Western cultural self-perception, border security and Iranian sleeper cells in the U.S., international strategic choke points, and a nuanced look at marijuana's neurological impacts. As always, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty offer both pointed commentary and humor, undergirded by sharp listener engagement.
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This episode is a balanced blend of serious exploration and comic relief, tackling deep historical misconceptions, current security risks, and cultural self-awareness, all peppered with the characteristic Armstrong & Getty mix of wisdom and wit. The hosts don't shy away from controversy and encourage listeners to question dominant narratives, think critically, and, above all, not take themselves or the world too seriously.