Did He Say It Shirtless While Mounted On A Tiger?

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — Episode Summary

Episode Title: Did He Say It Shirtless While Mounted On A Tiger?
Date: October 27, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Jack and Joe deliver their trademark blend of sharp political commentary, cultural observations, and banter. Major topics include Argentina’s anti-socialist turn under Javier Milei, trade and tariffs (with focus on China and Canada), the state of American politics and media, world affairs (notably from Venezuela to the South China Sea), and the ever-evolving influence of “feminization” in American institutions. The episode is punctuated by quick-witted jokes, personal stories, and their irreverent take on current events.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Argentina & The Endurance of Free Markets

• Javier Milei’s Victory:
  • Main theme: Argentina’s president Javier Milei and his party’s recent legislative win signal voters’ rejection of socialism and embrace of the free market.
  • Armstrong’s take (00:44): “Weaning the junkie off of socialism is really difficult once people get dependent on it.”
  • Getty: Praises Argentine voters’ resolve, contrasts with Venezuela’s collapse under socialism, and notes optimism about Argentina’s direction.

2. Halloween (and Cultural Trends)

• On Halloween’s Extended Celebrations:
  • Hosts recall childhood memories of dressing up for just one night versus today’s week-long costume events.
  • Jack on his friend’s golf putter cover (02:05): Humorous nod to adults extending the holiday’s fun.
• Costumes for pets and people:
  • Getty (02:36): “The fish was in a dog outfit. No, it was the other way around — dog was in a fish outfit... your dog gets all the use out of the costume.”
• Social Signaling via Appearance:
  • Handlebar mustaches get attention on purpose, unlike, say, breast implants. (03:07)

3. International Trade: US-China Tariffs, Canadian Influence

• China Trade Deal Preview:
  • Biden is in Asia; expectations are the US will lower tariffs on China, fulfilling both domestic and international aims.
  • Getty (05:21): “Trump gets what he wanted is what that is.” Argues Trump’s negotiation style is to start big and scale back to his real goal.
• Canada’s Ad Campaign:
  • During the World Series, Canadians ran ads featuring Reagan, promoting anti-tariff views to influence US policy.
  • Armstrong (04:40): “Do they have political action committees in Canada? Nobody knows.”

4. Socialism vs. Free Markets

• Contrasting Argentina and Venezuela:
  • Coverage of “60 Minutes” on Venezuela’s decline juxtaposed with Argentina’s pivot away from socialism.
  • Jack (13:54): “Socialism is a miserable, horrible failure. But I’m glad Argentina is aware of that.”
  • Getty sees mainstream media finally discussing failures of socialism openly.

5. Political Culture: Name Pronunciations, Woke Left, & the Democratic Party

• The "Zorron" Debate:
  • Hosts mock a politician’s name pronunciation and AOC’s “big hitter” rhetoric about Democratic “woke” priorities.
• Democratic Party Directions:
  • Getty (10:02): “This is the Democratic Party now. Rent control, government controlled grocery stores, we’re taking over. Get out of the way.”
  • Commentary on lack of awareness by the far left about how they’re perceived.

6. AI and Technology in Daily Life

• AI Advice Gone Wrong:
  • News headline refers to people ending up in the ER after following bad advice from AI bots (17:11).
• ChatGPT’s Commercial Interests:
  • OpenAI pushing shopping into chats for hundreds of millions of users.
  • Jack (17:47): “ChatGPT has given me a couple of great golf lessons... it’s like really good.”
  • Getty responds: The technology may soon give personalized sports advice from video analysis, potentially disrupting entire industries.

7. Political Hypocrisy & Media Spin

• White House Renovations:
  • Panel discussion on partisan outrage depending on which party’s president makes changes to the White House.
  • Sarah Isger (21:12): “If Barack Obama had done this, Republicans would be losing their minds. Donald Trump is doing it. Democrats are losing theirs.”
• Jack (22:20): “I try to not be frustrated by how stupid it is...The longer I observe politics...the more I realize it is the stupid stuff. That’s politics. Who wins that stupid, stupid game gets to do the things that matter.”

8. Shutdowns & Political Messaging

• Democratic Congressman Jared Golden:
  • Stands with Republicans on ending the shutdown, critical of “using the shutdown as leverage.”
• Jack (25:22): Critiques the lack of effective Republican messaging:
  • “Somebody please tell me what is the one-sentence eloquent explanation... I haven’t heard it.”

9. Geopolitics: South China Sea & Russia

• Military Incidents:
  • US helicopter & jet from the same carrier crash in the South China Sea, spurring conspiracy speculation.
  • Jack (27:17): “Opening to a really good war movie...China’s got some sort of secret ray beam or some way to jam our computers and crash two planes...”
• Putin’s “Invincible” Missile:
  • New Russian cruise missile described as “impossible to intercept.”
  • Armstrong (29:14, [TITLE QUOTE]): “Did he say it shirtless while mounted on a tiger?”

10. “Feminization” of Institutions Debate

• Listener Feedback/Pushback:
  • Thoughtful response from a listener challenging the hosts’ arguments that institutions have been degraded by feminization.
  • Key back-and-forth (38:55+):
    • Getty: “I just don’t think you can possibly deny...every institution we’ve got has become more — call it feminized, call whatever you want — but more go along to get along as opposed to looking for excellence.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Weaning the junkie off of socialism is really difficult once people get dependent on it.”
  — Jack Armstrong (00:49)

• “If Barack Obama had done this, Republicans would be losing their minds. Donald Trump is doing it. Democrats are losing theirs.”
  — Sarah Isger (21:12)

• “Trump gets what he wanted is what that is.”
  — Joe Getty (06:36), on Trump’s tariff negotiating style

• “Did he say it shirtless while mounted on a tiger?”
  — Jack Armstrong (29:14), mocking Putin’s bravado

• “Socialism is a miserable, horrible failure. But I’m glad Argentina is aware of that.”
  — Jack Armstrong (13:54)

• “That’s the game we’re playing. I try to not be frustrated by how stupid it is… The longer I observe politics… the more I realize it is the stupid stuff.”
  — Jack Armstrong (22:20)

• “I just don’t think you can possibly deny... every institution we’ve got has become more... call it feminized, call whatever you want. But more go along to get along as opposed to looking for excellence. Wow.”
  — Joe Getty (41:48)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Argentina’s Milei & Socialism: 00:44
• Halloween & Social Signaling: 01:41–03:32
• China Tariff Deal & Trump Negotiation: 03:32–06:41
• Canada’s World Series Ad: 04:40–05:21
• AI/ChatGPT Advice and News Headlines: 17:11–18:14
• Russia’s “Invincible” Missile & Title Quote: 29:14
• Partisan Media Spin & White House Renovation: 21:12
• Feminization Debate & Listener Mail: 38:55–41:48

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Overall Tone & Style

True to Armstrong & Getty’s style, the conversation swings from earnest concern to lighthearted mockery, political cynicism to cultural nostalgia. The hosts are openly irreverent, frequently inserting personal stories, asides, and playful jabs at politicians, media figures, listeners, and each other.

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Conclusion

This episode is a broad but substantive ride through the week’s major stories, from Argentina’s political shift, the ever-present fear of global conflict, to critiques of American political discourse and cultural trends. Whether listeners are after news, analysis, or a laugh at the absurdities of modern life, this episode of Armstrong & Getty delivers.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

From studio C. C sen is a.

[Joe Getty]

Dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. Brand new week. Who knows what's going to happen? And today, today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know this is kind of out there. I'm going with Javier Milei, the leader of Argentina.

[Joe Getty]

Shortstop.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just want to know he's indeed the president of that land. He just had his party had a decisive victory in the legislature. The people saying, essentially, yeah, this has been a tough trans, but we cannot go back to socialism. We're sticking with you. Let's hang with free markets and free people. It's awe inspiring. I was super afraid he was gonna lose because weaning the junkie off of socialism is really difficult once people get dependent on it.

[Joe Getty]

Sure Javier Millet didn't hit a clutch single in the sixth inning for the Blue Jays Friday night.

[Jack Armstrong]

He may have as well. He's a capable man.

[Joe Getty]

Could have swore that was the name. How y' all doing? Brand new week. Isn't it exciting? Halloween's this Friday. If you got kids or at a neighborhood with kids coming to your house or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lots of decades. I don't appreciate the Satanism, but, you know, you do. You.

[Joe Getty]

You say that every year.

[Jack Armstrong]

You die.

[Joe Getty]

I don't appreciate the Satan worship. I saw a lot of kids in Halloween costumes over the weekend. So there must be a, you know, you want to get more than one night's wear out of it. When I was a kid, we only wore it the one time, but I know now it's kind of become like Halloween week. You have a whole week of wearing your costume, which makes more sense to me because you took the time to pick one out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. It's funny you should mention that. My buddy Cal, the Canadian. That is a pseudonym, but I'm not going to use his real name Cal. I played golf with him yesterday. He's got a Halloween themed putter cover on. And I'm like, who has a Halloween putter cover? He says, I do. I get about two weeks worth of use out of it per year. Then I put it back in the garage.

[Joe Getty]

I saw somebody walking a dog yesterday in a Nemo outfit. Nemo the fish.

[Jack Armstrong]

The dog was in the Nemo outfit.

[Joe Getty]

The fish was in a dog outfit. No, it was the other way around dog was in a fish outfit and I thought, so you got your dog in a Halloween costume a full week early so that your dog gets all the use out of the costume.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Because the dog was so excited about dressing for Halloween. Yeah. Nice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great conversation starter, I suppose. Oh, look at your dog. Yeah, blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

They were thrilled that I brought it up. As I. As I tell my kids about stuff like that, I say people do that because they want you to talk about that. Because I brought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

I said something the other day to a guy who had a handlebar mustache. You don't have a handlebar mustache and not want people to notice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right.

[Joe Getty]

You know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, of course you do. The only. I was just reading about how the trend in breast implants is smaller. The only exception to that rule is breast implants. You're not supposed to say, oh wow, your boobs are really big now. I mean, for instance, you don't. Other things, though, they're designed to be noticed and remarked.

[Joe Getty]

You got Michael off guard. That's not the way he's been handling it. The President of the United States is on the other side of the world right now visiting various countries and dancing various folk dances. If you saw that over the weekend. Very charming. And he's going to be meeting with XI on Thursday and they're announcing some sort of big trade deal that the markets and everybody's very excited about in which the tariff will go down from 135% or whatever it's supposed to kick into down to 10% likely and much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lower than our current punitive tariff on Canada.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because. Goodness.

[Joe Getty]

Because of that Reagan ad. Which ad? Both ran both World Series games I watched. They got that running during the World Series game, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

How much money did Canada spend to get that add in, you know, a major sports event like that?

[Jack Armstrong]

A lot.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, is that taxpayer dollars? Was that. Is that an organization in Canada? The Canadian government buy ad time during the World Series. So Americans would see Ronald Reagan talking about the evils of tariffs. So what an interesting move.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it was the leadership of Ontario. Doug Ford. Who's the Ford? Who's not dead? Whichever one is still with us, I believe that was his doing. Who paid for it? I couldn't tell you. Do they have political action committees in Canada? Nobody knows.

[Joe Getty]

Harrison Ford.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wrong guy.

[Joe Getty]

Wrong guy. Henry Ford.

[Jack Armstrong]

Henry.

[Joe Getty]

No, but that's Ford's. So you got the World Series being played in a foreign land which just I can't get over. And they. They run commercials. They Pay to run commercials to affect the politics between the United States and Canada by. By, in theory, reminding conservatives that your favorite conservative president, Ronald Reagan, thought tariffs were a terrible idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he did, and he did. That much is clear. That is not in the least misleading.

[Joe Getty]

It is.

[Jack Armstrong]

It lacks context, but I don't think the context is fundamental to it.

[Joe Getty]

It is heavily edited, but it does not change the meaning whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

I agree. I agree completely. And I would be shocked if the Supreme Court does not seriously limit the unilateral tariff power of one man because it's a tax, for goodness sakes.

[Joe Getty]

Watching MSNBC about this whole tariff thing with China specifically, and they made the point and good for them that people say taco, but that's just so dumb. Trump's negotiating style, lots of people negotiating style is you shoot for the moon and then you get it down to a place that you wanted. That doesn't seem crazy by the time you get it down to that number, but is a huge win. So from Trump's standpoint, if the tariffs end up being 10%, if he had started at 10%, people would have been going crazy. A 10% tariff on absolutely everything out of China. Do you know what that. So much Chinese goods, how that's like a 10%, blah, blah, blah, and he's going to go from 135 to 10 and people. Oh, okay, good. So barely nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's not.

[Joe Getty]

Trump always chickens out. That's. Trump gets what he wanted is what that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump starts at a maximalist position. It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well.

[Joe Getty]

That's what that was. The goal was. So then it's gonna work, apparently, emotionally, but still, 10% tariff on, you know, everything on Amazon, practically, that's something. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

One more note about Canada. Speaking of my buddy Cal, the Canadian. So when we play golf semi frequently. And Katie, one of the. One of my kind of stock lines, when we're playing golf, if somebody hits a drive especially far or like, accidentally nukes an iron over the green, I. Strong like bull, you know, gets a little chunkle. Right. Okay. Well, Cal said to me yesterday, you got to start saying strong like transgender boy competing in girl sport.

[News Reader]

It's a little wordy, but I like it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I said, yeah, it's a little long, but it is funny.

[Joe Getty]

I just saw the clip again at Trump doing the Malaysian dance. Yeah, well, he kind of did.

[Jack Armstrong]

He met him halfway instead of just doing the stock Trump dance. He kind of, you know, he. He met him halfway with their. Their, you know, folk dance.

[Joe Getty]

Throwing a little the Malaysian folk dance, which. Oh yeah, reminiscent of how they ran from the volcano in the year 85 or something like that. Who knows what it was?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. It's those moves that probably lured Melania to a side back in the day. Women love a guy who can dance.

[Joe Getty]

Let's start the show officially before we get in trouble with the government. Even during a shutdown, the FCC is on our tail. I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this. It is Monday. Like I said, October 27, year 2025, where Armstrong and getting we approved of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, let's begin then. Officially, according to FCC rules and regulations, here we go at mark.

[Commercial Announcer]

That Zoharan is up against in this race mirrors what we are up against nationally. Both an authoritarian criminal presidency fueled by corruption and bigotry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Zorron. Zorron.

[Joe Getty]

We all need to get behind. Zorron. Manda every time she said that to. So is that the way we're supposed to say it now? I didn't realize that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just play the beginning of that, Michael. I need to.

[Commercial Announcer]

I'm practicing that Zoran is up again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Zoran. There's like a in the middle of it. Zoran.

[Joe Getty]

Where's he from or his national origin?

[Jack Armstrong]

His parents.

[Joe Getty]

Uganda, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, they're like Indian people from Uganda.

[Joe Getty]

Do you roll the R on the people from Uganda? Well, it's not an.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess it's a weird extraneous H sound more than an R roll.

[Joe Getty]

You sure that. I still don't know if that's right.

[Commercial Announcer]

Is up against.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know that it's wrong, but it's the first time I've heard anybody say it that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope the guy goes away and has never heard from again. I'm not gonna work.

[Joe Getty]

That is the opposite. We'll play that whole clip from the big rally they had over the weekend ber there talking about oligarchs. AOC brought it and then Zorron got up there and this is gonna be a heck of an experiment. The way they portrayed it on fox, which I thought was really interesting, is that was the big hitters. This is like the, you know, the middle of the order for the Toronto Blue Jays. This is the big hitters coming up saying, this is the Democratic Party now. This is what we are. All right? We're rent control. We're government controlled grocery stores. We're taking over. Get out of the way. That's what that rally was.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's free buses woke education. That's right. We're you know, it's funny on the the right in the center left, there's a view like all right, now everybody understands how crazy that is and how the woke left needs to go away. Well, the woke left doesn't get that they're not down with your plan.

[Joe Getty]

Does not agree with you that Zohran I'm so excited about the World Series game three tonight. I watched first two games. Very, very entertaining. Really enjoyable. It's tied one one and then Shohei Otani's pitching tomorrow night. Oh, for game four.

[Jack Armstrong]

Must see. Yeah, I'd say if it goes to four games, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's 1 1. I don't know. I haven't done the math on it yet, but I think it's gonna be, it's gonna be safe.

[Jack Armstrong]

It has to. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Cheapest ticket I think is 700 for tomorrow night because Shohei's pitching. I can't imagine that you can even get a ticket. But anyway, we got Katie's headlines on the way. We got a bunch of news to catch you up on. I hope you can stay here. It's gonna be good.

[News Reader]

Zoran Mandani.

[Jack Armstrong]

Zorron.

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Zorron.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's Zorron, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Want to talk about 60 Minutes story last night about Venezuela, which I thought was really, really interesting as we're about to invade that country. I guess I don't know what's going to happen there. We got as soon as the world's biggest aircraft carrier pulls in, we'll have 15,000 service people of various sorts, Marines and sailors and that sort of stuff, ready to invade.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ready to do what?

[Joe Getty]

Ready to invade the country. But anyway, they featured how that was a really great one of the richest countries in the world and now is one of the poorest countries in the world because of socialism. That story last night when you got next door Argentina reelected by a great margin their anti socialism president, which is very exciting. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

They affirmed his party anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was like they had the midterms.

[Joe Getty]

It was very exciting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Socialism is a miserable, horrible failure. But I'm glad free damn time.

[Joe Getty]

I'm glad Argentina is aware of that. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So and I like 60 minutes pointing that out that it was a once rich and prosperous. Then socialism came along.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Is that the effect of Barry Weiss already?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder if the, the moderate to conservative folks there are feeling empowered to write the truth now. I don't know. We'll have to see going forward. Hey, speaking of reporting, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green.

[Joe Getty]

Katie, a child told me one. Katie, what did the horse say when he tripped and fell? I don't know. Help. I've fallen and I can't giddy up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, jeez. A child.

[News Reader]

That's cute.

[Jack Armstrong]

You were a child.

[News Reader]

Very cute. I won't smash it because a child told you. Okay, starting with FOX News, NBA hall of Famer Chauncey Billups denies any wrongdoing after arrest in FBI gambling probe.

[Joe Getty]

So they're making some noise on FOX this morning about former Chargers star Antonio Gates playing at those games back in the day or something. And I didn't quite get the source of that, but the dragging the NFL into the games, I don't know.

[News Reader]

From the Guardian, U.S. and China reach, quote, final deal on TikTok sale.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, same question remains, and I still haven't figured it out. Is the algorithm come with it or not?

[News Reader]

That's the question no one knows. From the ap. Truck driver in fatal Florida crash repeatedly failed his driving tests. He failed the CDL 10 times.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody ought to be on the hook for murder for real.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no kidding.

[News Reader]

From the Wall Street Journal, America's hottest new investment rare earth companies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. This is really speaking of, you know, great developments of national awakenings and credit to the Trump administration. We as a country, private and public entities seem to be aware that, look, we can't be dependent on China for anything that's essential at all. Cheap, crappy toys, yes. Rare earths for batteries and silicon chips and the rest of it. No, no. And I hope that continues on to pharmaceuticals and medical supplies and all sorts of other stuff.

[News Reader]

This would have been a mess. NBC flights to Los Angeles International Airport temporarily halted due to air traffic controller shortage.

[Joe Getty]

And we're gonna hear more about that in the coming days if the shutdown doesn't end.

[News Reader]

From USA Today, quote, I am not done. Kamala Harris weighs in on another presidential bid.

[Joe Getty]

Go for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, wow, wow. Is that lack of self awareness?

[Joe Getty]

Is that because Gavin admitted over the weekend that he's running?

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I don't know. I don't know. It's like a band got booed off the stage, then they're backstage saying, should we go out for an encore?

[Joe Getty]

No, no.

[News Reader]

From the New York Post, the Real Life ways bad advice from AI bots is sending people to the ER with everything from anal pain to mini strokes.

[Joe Getty]

What did you do? I want to read that story. We'll have that story for you later.

[News Reader]

Study finds OpenAI slipped shopping into 800 million chat GPT users chats. So like, they would bring something up and then it would say, oh, well, there's a product that can help you with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And give them the link. Oh, that's not the least bit surprising.

[Joe Getty]

Hmm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, I tell you what, golfers, ChatGPT has given me a couple of great golf lessons.

[News Reader]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

I will, I will tell it. Hey, I'm struggling with this. How can I improve? And it'll say, great question. That's really common. What's happening is blankety blank. Here's three drills that really help. And you know, I don't want to put the golf pros of the world out of work, but it's like really good.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Like give you real time feedback as to whether you're executing it or not, but it helps.

[News Reader]

Katie, I wonder if you could show it a video and it would say here's I wonder.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sure you could.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh wow.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[News Reader]

Finally from the Babylon Bee Serial killer unwinds after a long day by listening to his favorite podcast about housewives.

[Jack Armstrong]

I get it.

[Joe Getty]

Guaranteed you could show a video or it will be able to at some point and then chat. GPT will tell you what to do to improve your your tennis swing or golf swing or whatever it is. That's wild. Gonna put a lot of pros out of business. Yikes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Guest Pundit]

Good grief. Of all the problems we have in this country, this should not rank in the top 100. Presidents have always renovated the White House. The White House, as you know, hasn't had a convening state space. That's why they've had to keep bringing in.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you heard Mark up to Grove. Nothing like this has happened to this scale.

[Guest Pundit]

The Oval Office as we know it is less than 100 years old. This idea that everything that sort of we've seen in TV has always been just isn't true. The White House has always been a work in progress. It's needed a large space for events. So we're going to have one. If Barack Obama had done this, Republicans would be losing their minds. Donald Trump is doing it. Democrats are losing theirs.

[Joe Getty]

That might be my favorite pundit in all of America, Sarah Isger of the Dispatch. She is really, really good.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was strong. Yeah, yeah. And she is not Trumpy.

[Joe Getty]

She worked in the Trump Justice Department and is not Trumpy. Yeah, I said this last week. I really think this is the best. Practically every topic you could do this on, whether it was masks during COVID or, you know, pick your topic where if you switched presidents in a parallel universe, everybody would be doing the exact opposite of what they're doing. But I really think on this one, I think a lot of y', all, if, if Joe Biden were doing this, would be going crazy about how awful this is, and Democrats would be arguing, the White House has always been renovated, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's, I mean, it's just completely based on who's doing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's the game we're playing. I try, I try to not be frustrated by how stupid it is because there are so many important things going on, so many important ideas that need to be considered. But I just, you know, the longer I observe politics, and I should have wakened, woken up to this years and years ago, the more I realize it is the stupid stuff. That's politics. Who wins that stupid, stupid game gets to do the things that matter. As Charles Krauthammer put it, wow, that.

[Joe Getty]

Would be a tiring job. I think you're right. I think the sort of person that can become a politician is the sort of person that can get out there every day in front of a group of people or sit down with somebody in the media and argue about the stupid crap and say stuff that they know themselves. They'd be on the Exact opposite side if the other party did the same thing. But you have to do that all day, every day to get to the things that the. Where the money gets spent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, in a way it's, it's weird and unrelated. It's like having to win a sprint to get into the finals of a chess championship. I mean, what does, what does duping people with more clever rhetoric have to do with sound fiscal policy? Very little. That's just the way the game is played. Speaking of politics, do you know Democratic Congressman Jared golden of Bangor, Maine? Wish my name was Jared golden, but he's.

[Joe Getty]

Hi, I'm Jared Golden. What are you doing, man?

[Jack Armstrong]

Guys want to be him. Girls want to. Anyway, he didn't just vote with Republicans on the houses of vote to avoid the government shutdown. He has said and is continuing to say they were right in their criticism of his party's stance. You know, not surprisingly, he's the swing district guy. But the House passed the GOP stopgap measure last month, but it's been blocked by Democrats in the Senate. There are still a few votes short. Golden has argued his party's health care demands and the government shutdown are totally separate issues and that government Democrats should not be using the shutdown as leverage. What they're doing is wrong, he said in an interview. He's a tattooed Marine Corvette 43 year old Centrist.

[Joe Getty]

So the shutdown still going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, apparently so. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schuma has demanded bipartisan negotiations to extend expiring Affordable Care act health care subsidies that were enacted during COVID Anyway, that's probably enough of that. We'll let the PR war continue. Continually shocked at how bad the Republican messaging is. Somebody tell me, what is the one other than the Schumer shutdown, which is just not great. I mean, make that part of it. Somebody please tell me what is the one sentence eloquent explanation of the American people of why there's a shutdown right now? I haven't heard it. Have you?

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

How can you. How can you're messaging people not have come up with that at this point.

[Joe Getty]

But it's, it's got to be something around the fact that we're going back to what the Obamacare subsidies were before the pandemic. It's not a big deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right there. You just drafted it. That's perfect. Hi, caramba. How do you ever win elections? Republicans? Speaking of the silly, silly game we play. Anyway, this Jared golden guy says Democratic leaders have fallen prey to the demands of far left groups who want Them to, quote, put on a show of their opposition to President Trump while hurting Americans in the, in the process. I would agree with them. Change of topic. This might be nothing or it might be huge. A US Military helicopter and a jet fighter from the same aircraft carrier crashed into the South China Sea within 30 minutes of each other yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

Seems pretty crazy. I saw Trump ask about it. His comment was, it's just, you know, just a random occurrence, no big deal. Might be, might might be a reason he's saying that. Seems like a heck of a thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it does. You're in one of the most disputed parts of the ocean in the world where China has been newly assertive in the last couple of years. Obviously, with the tensions around Taiwan going on, the Chinese have been bullying everybody in the area. You know, a giant aircraft carrier has a hell of a lot of, in this case, F18s and helicopters, and it's possible if they're really actively doing maneuvers. Yeah, you got two mishaps within 30 minutes of each other. But doesn't that sound like the opening to, like a really good, riveting war.

[Joe Getty]

Movie where you find out that China's got some sort of secret ray beam or some way to jam our computers and crash two planes and then let the Pentagon know? Yeah, that's us. And we can do that anytime we want, by the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. Some sort of, I don't know, navigation jamming frequency or something. I don't know. Obviously neither one of us are experts in this, but it just, it feels like the opening to a much bigger narrative to me. Everybody's okay. Thank God.

[Joe Getty]

Do you see that? Putin hailed some new can't be detected missile over the weekend that our Pentagon acknowledged exists. Some new fancy missile that can travel around the world and, you know, no time flat and can't be picked up by radar. Like a new, a newer version than the hyper missile. Like a really scary crap hope we have some way to stop it or we have something like that or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gotta just put up a big fence around the country. Like it's a driving range, you know, probably.

[Joe Getty]

Driving range. Yeah. Probably why Trump has been trying to push that golden Dome or Silver Dome or whatever he's talking about is because of this kind of technology. What was the name of the new invincible nuclear missile? That's what Putin called it. Moscow carried out a successful test of its new invincible nuclear capable cruise missile. With the Kremlin now working to deploy the doomsday weapon. Vladimir Putin said as a heck of a statement to put out days after Trump hits the two big oil companies with the tariffs that they're getting it positioned to be able to launch nuclear weapons if they need to.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is such a pisser that they have such a nuclear arsenal and missiles because they, well, they're, they're an unhealthy dwarf with one giant muscular arm. That's their nuclear arsenal. The other than that as a military and as a economy, Russia's a basket case.

[Joe Getty]

Putin previously touted the weapon as his invincible missile, capable of bypassing all current and future missile defense systems. That's an odd statement.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. He also claimed, did he say it? Shirtless while mounted on a tiger?

[Joe Getty]

He also claimed that the nuclear armed missile has a nearly unlimited range and an unpredictable flight path making it impossible to intercept. Capable of flying for 15 hours if it needs to, can cover a distance of 9,000 miles, which makes it easily capable of reaching New York city or Washington, D.C. which is what all the media cares about. So that ain't good.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no. Ah, let's hope it's never used. But the world is complicated to you. Few easy answers out there.

[Joe Getty]

What's that? What'd you say there at the end? I missed it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Me?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh. I said there are a few easy answers out there.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I mean, I got.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd say yeah. Yeah. Well, this is an easy one. Contributing to our friends at Warrior Foundation Freedom Station coming up, what is it, a war week from Thursday? Yeah, that's right. On the 6th. It's the annual Warrior Foundation Freedom Station Giveathon.

[Joe Getty]

This year marks 21 years of serving our ill and injured warriors. And this Giveathon is a chance to fly them home for the holidays, which is a cool thing they do every year because everyone deserves to be with their loved ones, especially those who've sacrificed so much for our country. You could donate money to make sure they get to wake up at home on Christmas day.

[Jack Armstrong]

And your t. Your tax deductible donation is more than a gift. It's a powerful way to say thank you to warriors who would never ask for help, but they need it. Warrior Foundation Freedom Station would not exist without the continued generosity of patriotic Americans like yourselves. To learn more and donate, you can just call 619-WARRIOR-619, WARRIOR or visit warriorfoundation.org Remember, this is not that similarly named organization which with much different numbers for effectiveness and efficiency. With your money, warriorfoundation.org got kind of.

[Joe Getty]

A breaking news story that the Donald Trump received an MRI result this week with no answers as to what it was for. White House faces new questions over Trump's health examination. With that news breaking out. Don't know that's anything or not. He's an old person. When you get to be 80 years old, which he almost is, you get all kinds of checkups and tests and things happen all the time because you're right. Blood pressure and cholesterol and heart and everything. Does things it's not supposed to do on a regular basis and your bones don't rip your bones.

[Jack Armstrong]

For all we know his elbow hurts all the time. And he said, and the doctor said, yeah, we'll do an mri.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, or he's a big fat guy. My stomach's always upset.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the deal?

[Joe Getty]

So they did an mri, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe he's got the anal pain Katie told us about earlier. Wow, did you get jacked that still.

[Joe Getty]

Like you should give us a warning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Before you say that's their fault.

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It's more fun that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shock. Ap.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy, got the AP going.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's tough to get. Tough to concentrate on what you're doing when you got the ap.

[Joe Getty]

No doubt, right? Especially on a Monday. You're starting a brand new week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Got traffic and I got a stack of work on my desk. And ap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Hard to keep a smile on your face. Worst time to have it.

[Joe Getty]

Michael. Starting a new week on a Monday, you get to work. Hey Jack, how was the weekend? Not so great. Anal pain?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, a lot. Anal pain. Oh, sorry to hear that, Jim.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God. The things have gone off the rails. We got to get this back on the rails with some more news and stuff. And Joe's got mailbag on the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay here. Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Joe Getty]

Guys are really, really enjoying watching the World Series, man. Getting into the rhythm of something that is, I don't know, normal feeling. You know, how the world has not seemed normal the last half dozen years.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, what's the word I'm always using? Precarious. To get together, you got the American League, you got the National League. They're going to play at best of seven series. Three strikes still makes, you know, an out, et cetera, et cetera. You got to run the bases around in that order. You can't, you can't have AOC run into third base first and crying racism or whatever the hell that Zohran. That's right. You don't have Zoharan trying to take us back to the glory days of the Soviet Union. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day sent along by Jeff and Hog's Nipple Tennessee. I believe that's an unincorporated area. It's from the great William F. Buckley, Jr. Quote, the best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish I'd known the word usurpatory when my kids were young. Hey, you're getting a little usurpatory there with your fresh mouth. All right.

[Joe Getty]

The best defense is a what? An aggressive citizen.

[Jack Armstrong]

An assertive. Right, Right. Of course, that was back when there was a Congress. You know, it'd be nice if the people still had representatives in the government as opposed to professional fundraisers, which is kind of the situation right now. Mailbag. Got a lot of great stuff on The Great Feminization. But first got this over the weekend and I liked it so much. We were discussing briefly last week guys taking their wife's name when they get married.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And how common that was. Jim says, I get it's odd, but what if she has a really cool name like Steel or Danger?

[Joe Getty]

I would agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree.

[Joe Getty]

I marry somebody named Holly Danger. I'm taking your last name.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm Joe Danger. Where do I sign? Hell, yeah. Great point, Jim. And he really enjoyed the feminization of organizations discussion we had last week. Speaking of which, we got this note from Lee. I'm in the education field. Our school is mostly remote. At a quarterly two and a half hour in person staff meeting on Friday. And the time is pretty valuable since we're rarely together in the flesh. The first 30 minutes of the meeting, we designated time to write postcards of gratitude to anyone in our organization that we wanted to thank. Then we had more time to go around and introduce ourselves and share how we were feeling. Feeling. I immediately thought of the. Go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

I just took the wind out of me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lee said, I immediately thought of the Great Feminization piece and was incredibly amused by the whole thing, which was totally Montessori kindergarten.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the key lines from the essay was, women can sue if their organization is a little too frat housing. But where do guys go to sue if the organizations run like a Montessori kindergarten? Right.

[Joe Getty]

No dudes would ever say, okay, and then we're going to take 20 minutes to go around and explain how we feel before. Before we start the meeting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm feeling like, let's get to work. Anyway, I spent my time. My heart is broken. All right. I spent my time answering important emails instead. And then shuddered, shuddered when I realized that everyone else probably sent out our supervisor gratitude postcards. And I would send out as the only one who didn't. Then I had to laugh again. This type of calculation, as if my good standing in the village was at stake. It struck me as very. A very feminine reaction, too.

[Joe Getty]

Clearly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. You're judged not by your skill as a warrior or business person or educator or sales guy or whatever. It's. Does everybody like you? Are you getting the approval of everyone? You know, we got this great email on the same topic. I feel like we don't have time for it. A very nice, well reasoned pushback from beloved female listener. Okay, we have three minutes.

[Joe Getty]

Three minutes. Yeah. Do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Okay, let's see. She's left leaning, which is fine. Thank you for Being here mostly, I just wanted to say, I think one of the things, the idea that, quote, institutions have been degraded by feminism or feminization seems to imply that these institutions were functioning ideally before. That's, that's a false argument. It's about a. It's a bit of a straw man, Emily. I would say they're functioning better before, but certainly with flaws. And when there was no feminine input, it lacked it, it needed it, in my opinion anyway. Perhaps they were functioning well for the people that were mostly working within them or that they served. However, during a lot of our history, women and other groups were not included as part of that opinion or conversation. You've expanded other groups making a bit of a nod toward racism, which again, it's a red herring. That's not the argument here at all. But your greater point. Do we need input from other than just quote unquote, old white guys? Sure, that's fine. Growth is good. Change is good. As Joe frequently says, societies tend to swerve from guardrail to guardrail and hit a period where things are smooth. Briefly in the middle. Where's their other key argument? While I see you both. Oh, she takes a shot at you, but it's a little long. At the risk of being even more long winded, but tangentially, I've heard you guys make the point several times that girls tend toward groupthink a lot more easily than guys. I fear again that this has targeted the argument specifically to one gender. This is not a female problem. It is an adolescent problem, or maybe even more human problem. And she talks about trends among youthful people. Yeah, but we're not talking about kids. We're talking about important adult institutions. Oh, and then she debates that all women are like X. But the point, and it was made very well in the essay, is that the larger the group, the more the average tends towards statistical averages. Obviously, an individual woman might be taller than an individual man, but if you get a hundred men and a hundred women, I guarantee you the average height of the man is going to be greater than that of women. And it's tendencies. It's not every single instance that women tend to be more, you know, tend toward feminine attributes that we were talking about. Anyway, I don't mind the pushback. I wish we had a little more time.

[Joe Getty]

I just don't think you can possibly deny the fact that every institution we've got has become more. Call it feminized, call whatever, call whatever you want, give whatever label you want. But more that more go along to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get along as opposed to looking for excellence. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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