Did You Just Call Me "The Fat One?"

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Did You Just Call Me 'The Fat One?'"

Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Producer/Staff Commentary: Katie Green, Michaelangelo

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Armstrong and Getty blend sharp political analysis, media criticism, and classic Super Bowl banter, with a humorous discussion on food guilt and cultural moments from the big game. The show’s main segments range from the evolving narrative around missing persons and law enforcement rhetoric to deep dives into the flaws of modern journalism and the changing landscape of American politics, especially in relation to upcoming elections and media crises.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. Media Handling of Missing Persons Cases

• Opening Segment [03:17 – 05:22]

  • The hosts discuss reports about an ongoing missing persons case.
  • Skepticism towards law enforcement's focus on "hope" in their public statements:

    "Ain't interested in hope as a strategy. Let's just go with likelihoods, facts, etc." — Jack Armstrong [03:25]

• Debate over whether authorities should publicly express hope or stick to facts:

  "I just think until you know somebody's dead, you proceed as if they're alive." — Joe Getty [04:02]

• Speculation on ransom and criminal strategy:

  "All the experts are saying, this is not like any ransom situation we've ever dealt with... None of that is happening right." — Jack Armstrong [05:05]

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2. Political Parties Swap Positions on Nationalizing Elections

• Sarah Isger Commentary [06:59 – 08:15]

  • Jack highlights Sarah Isger’s ABC analysis on Trump suggesting the nationalization of elections.

  • Isger’s quote on party hypocrisy:

    "We're seeing both parties switch sides. It had actually been the Democratic Party that had been in favor of nationalizing voter registration... And so once again, we see both sides switch." — Sarah Isger (via Armstrong) [07:31]

  • Hosts reflect on exhausting nature of political flip-flopping:

    "It's just exhausting." — Joe Getty [08:29]
    "It is exhausting." — Jack Armstrong [08:30]

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3. Super Bowl (Food, Culture, and Critique)

• Super Bowl Banter [05:30 – 10:01; 25:48 – 27:07]

  • Jack shares Chris Collinsworth's football commentary:

    "If you can't stop a four-man rush, you're not going to win." [05:37]

  • Food confessions—ribs, pizza, and the delusion of 'earning' cheat days with exercise:

    "I exercise before your big eating days. I feel like that might not work the way I think it works." — Jack Armstrong [09:28]

  • Mike Tyson’s nutrition advice (audio clip):

    "We're drinking and eating so much sugar, that's even becoming narcotic... addicted to sugar..." — Mike Tyson [14:34]
    "That is words live by, Mike. That's words to live by." — Joe Getty [14:55]

  • Super Bowl halftime show discussed:

    • Critique of Green Day’s "American Idiot" (anti-Bush) and Bad Bunny’s inclusion; confusion and generational gap felt by hosts on latter:

      “Why is Green Day singing American Idiot? ... It was a staunchly anti George Bush, I'm ashamed of my country anthem..." — Joe Getty [18:07] “I don't know no Bad Bunny song.” — Jack Armstrong [42:17]

  • Audience reactions and players' unfamiliarity with Bad Bunny:

    "Seattle Seahawks players asked their favorite Bad Bunny song and ... all the people interviewed there said, I don't have one. I don't know who that is." — Jack Armstrong [42:30]

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4. Uber Liability & Social Media Lawsuits

• Recent Uber Lawsuit [10:01 – 13:34]

  • Jury awarded damages against Uber after a sexual assault by a driver. Discussion explores corporate responsibility, rarity of such events, and legal precedent.

    "Expecting perfection—God. How many Uber drivers there are in the country?... Might be impossible." — Jack Armstrong [11:12]

  • Comparison drawn to other industries (McDonald’s, etc.), complexity of company liability.

  • Brief mention of upcoming social media trial and juries’ tendencies to punish large corporations regardless of strict scientific causality.

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5. Critique of Modern Media & Journalism

• Decline of Washington Post & Journalism [28:06 – 39:10]

  • Hosts reflect on the irrelevance and partisanship of the Washington Post:

    "Almost entirely. Not just like Democrats, but like the woke left pulling their hair out over how awful this is." — Jack Armstrong [28:23]

  • Peggy Noonan’s Wall Street Journal column cited:

    "I fear sometimes that few people really care about journalism, but we are dead without it." — Peggy Noonan (read by Armstrong) [30:48]

  • On changing business models and audience desires:

    "As a business model, there's just no point in even trying to start a newspaper. We're going to be fair to both sides... There's just not really a crowd for that." — Jack Armstrong [38:29]

  • Journalist career path compared to that of becoming a doctor, with criticism for the new, elite, college-to-column pipeline:

    "Now you come out of Columbia at age 22 with these ridiculous fantasy Marxist beliefs... it's a completely different profession." — Joe Getty [35:24]

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6. Political Skill & the California Political Machine

• Matt Iglesias on Newsom & Harris [18:34 – 22:13; 27:07 – 27:59]

  • Iglesias’s metaphor: Democrats often vault candidates like Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom who’ve only ever run in non-competitive states, likening it to “making the Super Bowl without ever beating top teams.”

    "A politician can achieve an extremely prominent role... without ever winning a hard race against a Republican." — Matt Iglesias (via Joe Getty) [21:01]

  • Critique of party overemphasis on demographics:

    "The rest of us are not obsessed with intersectionality like you are." — Joe Getty [27:27] "If you believe in the founding principles ... I don't freaking care at all." — Jack Armstrong [27:32]

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7. Miscellaneous and Cultural Side Currents

• Quick Commentary:
  • Discussion of Olympic coverage and gendered ski courses [22:13 – 22:35]
  • Reference to bizarre headlines (RFK Jr. and Epstein) [05:22]
  • Jokes about Spanish becoming the new normal in American culture, wry commentary on the Super Bowl’s outreach:

    “And now we're all speaking Spanish.” — Jack Armstrong [39:12]

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• On Hope as a Strategy:

  "Ain't interested in hope as a strategy. Let's just go with likelihoods, facts, etc."
  — Jack Armstrong [03:25]

• On Media Partisanship:

  "You're the only people that care that the Washington Post is going away. Woke lefties, the rest of us are a combination of 'I don't read it anyway' or 'I'm glad it's going away.'"
  — Jack Armstrong [28:23]

• On Uber Liability:

  "How many Uber drivers are there in the country? ... And you have to get not one employee that ever does this sort of thing? Might be impossible."
  — Jack Armstrong [11:12]

• On Bad Bunny & the Generational Divide:

  "I don't know no Bad Bunny song."
  — Jack Armstrong [42:17]

• On Super Bowl Halftime Shows of Old:

  "You don't remember the Super Bowl halftime shows of the 80s...bunch of young, fresh faced people smiling and dancing to pop music with people."
  — Jack Armstrong [46:21]

• Peggy Noonan's Journalistic Warning:

  "I fear sometimes that few people really care about journalism, but we are dead without it."
  — Peggy Noonan (read by Jack Armstrong) [30:48]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [03:17]–[05:22] — Missing Persons Case & Law Enforcement Rhetoric
• [06:59]–[08:15] — Sarah Isger on Nationalizing Elections
• [09:08]–[10:01] — Super Bowl Food & Personal Health
• [10:01]–[13:34] — Uber Sexual Assault Case & Liability
• [18:07]–[18:34] — Green Day/Band Bunny, Super Bowl Halftime Critique
• [18:34]–[22:13] — Matt Iglesias on Democrats’ Candidate Pipeline
• [27:07]–[27:59] — Intersectionality & Demographic Politics
• [28:06]–[39:10] — Washington Post & Media Decline
• [42:11]–[43:18] — Bad Bunny/Generational Disconnect
• [45:06]–[46:46] — Final Thoughts and Lighthearted Super Bowl Banter

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Tone & Style

• Sarcastic, irreverent, conversational
• Deeply skeptical toward political and media institutions
• Frequent use of humor, asides, and cultural references

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a microcosm of classic Armstrong and Getty: a bracing mix of timely news, political skepticism, pop culture irreverence, and food guilt confessions. The hosts deliver wide-ranging conversation moving seamlessly from sober topics—systemic media disintegration, legal liabilities, electoral politics—to giddy banter about Super Bowl snacks, awkward halftime shows, and generational musical touchstones. Throughout, Jack and Joe remain true to their trademark blend of cynicism, humor, and pointed questioning that challenges conventional narratives in politics and media.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Getty. There has been no proof of life at all. And we've talked to the sheriff here about that. He says he believes that she is alive. But that is a belief based on, on hope and on a positivity to, to keep detectives and investigators engaged and optimistic. To each their own. And I have no idea what I'd do if I was in that circumstance, but I feel like I'd say to the sheriff, ain't interested in hope as a strategy. Let's just go with likelihoods, facts, etc.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't guess that's what's happening. I just think until you know somebody's dead, you proceed as if they're alive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I get that, but, but he states, I think she's still alive. And when they ask him, he says, just hoping it's true. Okay, well then don't state you think she's alive. You okay? I don't know what you're doing.

[Joe Getty]

We're going to proceed as if she is alive.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's fine.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, that's, that's absolutely fine.

[Joe Getty]

I just interpret the one as saying the other.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I've only heard one FBI analyst say this, but I think it's true. They're negotiating with wackos. They're, you know, grasping at straws. You might as well, why not go on TV and say, hey, we're willing to pay and hope that there is somebody out there that's holding. But I think the most likely thing at this point is it was never a for ransom thing. Or if it was a for ransom thing, they botched it and she's dead.

[Joe Getty]

And home invasion gone wrong. But I don't think something.

[Jack Armstrong]

All the experts are saying, this is not like any ransom situation we've ever dealt with. They immediately go to the family, not to media they immediately show you, here, we've got her here. Here's proof that we've got here. Here's where you send them. None of that is happening right. Which is horrible.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your headline of the day. RFK Jr went dinosaur bone hunting with Jeffrey Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty good headline.

[Joe Getty]

It's a pretty good line. There's a lot there. I wonder if he found any dead bears while he's dinosaur hunting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got a couple more super bowl things. Maybe later in the hour. Here's my favorite quote from Chris Collinsworth in the fourth quarter. If you can't stop a four man rush, you're not going to win. So even at one point when Seattle only rushed four guys against your entire line, they all got through. I mean, it was just. That is, that is a bad situation. Those people that had to be so demoralizing, those poor linemen. God just runs by you. You're like, I don't. What am I supposed to do? I'm not as fast as them. What would you like me to do? Get faster? I wish I could.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Unfortunately, both sides of that four man rush coin explained the Seattle Seahawks and my beloved 49ers games. Just one team could stop the other team and protect their quarterback. The other could not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Does anybody ever say that? I suppose you don't say that during a game where you go back to coach and say, here's the problem. He's way faster and stronger than me. So.

[Joe Getty]

Well, actually, yeah, the coach should know. We got to get him some help. He's outmatched.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Then they would pull back all their players, but you got nobody to throw.

[Joe Getty]

To everybody around and protect him. And the quarterback's like, what am I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Supposed to do now?

[Joe Getty]

Era throw it to myself and try to run a little bit. Yeah, it was, it was a domination. Seattle, just the, the second half of the season was dominant.

[Jack Armstrong]

So among stories that got a lot of attention last week, and I thought this was really good from ABC this week. I love Sarah Isger. She's one of the best political pundits in America. It's almost unfortunate that she's also a young mom cranking out kids and that's her priority. So she doesn't have enough time to write or broadcast as much stuff as I'd like to hear cuz she's so good. But Sarah Isger on ABC this week on the topic of Trump saying he wanted to nationalize elections. Trump's gonna nationalize elections. He's just like Hitler. This is What Sarah Isger had to say about that.

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Well, once again, we're seeing both parties switch sides. It had actually been the Democratic Party that had been in favor of nationalizing voter registration, for instance, and having the federal government play a bigger role in our elections. And it was Republicans who said, no, it's actually far more secure to have 50 SE separate elections. And so once again, we see both sides switch. Democrats are discovering federalism and why, in fact, when you have a president that you don't like and you don't have control over which president's gonna win, you may actually want states to be in control. And it's Republicans now who seem to have a very short memory and attention span, who say, why don't we nationalize the election for three years and then definitely will never lose another presidential election again.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's a conservative, by the way, who.

[Joe Getty]

She's the best.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who worked in the Trump Justice Department. If you're wonder where she comes from. But, yeah, how is that the only person I've heard point that out that. Wait a second, Democrats. You've been for nationalizing elections for years.

[Joe Getty]

It's just exhausting.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is exhausting.

[Joe Getty]

Karamba. Okay, take a deep breath. Joseph, forge ahead. Be a brave little man.

[Jack Armstrong]

El gordo. What? I thought we all spoke Spanish now. Don't we know?

[Joe Getty]

Call me the fat one. Is that gonna buck me up a little bit? Me and Mike Tyson, side by side, eating a quart of ice cream per hour. £345. Oh, good, my weight is up. My buddy Brad, every year at the super bowl party, he brings this giant pan of slow smoked ribs that he's been working on, like, you know, all day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I did not eat anything that healthy. I ate lots of Michelangelo's diploma. I ordered a couple of pizzas. That's nothing wrong with Not a good day of eating, though.

[Joe Getty]

Pizza. Pizza is a fine food. Fine. You got your, you got your dairy group, you got your veg vegetables there in the sauce. You get your bready bread group, you got your meat group.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do this thing where I exercise before your big eating days. I feel like that might not work the way I think it works. I think it justifies in my mind going further than I would normally. I think it's a net loss.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so you exercise 300 calories worth and think, all right, neat, 600.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those are some low numbers. I, I might exercise 300 calories worth and then eat 2, 000 calories. I was trying more than. So I went out and went on a long bike ride on a beautiful day. Then ate like a. Like Mike Tyson. Like fat Mike Tyson.

[Joe Getty]

No boy gotta eat real food. Just like Iron Mike says. So let me pay this off then we don't have to talk about it anymore because it's unpleasant. It's rape and everything. But mentioned at the end of last hour that a federal jury in Arizona found that Uber was liable for a woman being raped by one of the drivers and is responsible for paying her $8.5 million. The plaintiff's legal team argued that Uber failed to implement adequate measures to protect passengers safety despite advertising safe rides and that the company had opposed measures requiring cameras inside its vehicles. The plaintiffs had sought 144 million DOL dollars in damages but the jury did not find the company liable for negligence. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. We don't need to get that far into the weeds. Spokesman for Uber said in a statement that the verdict quote affirms that Uber acted responsibly and has invested meaningfully in rider safety. We will continue to put safety at the heart of everything we do. That is a great corporate statement. Having lost the lawsuit. This is one of those. If you can get the jury on your side. There's no scientific test for have you made your ride safe enough or not? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And expecting perfection. God. How many Uber drivers there are there in the country. You might have that number in that article. I don't know. It's got to be a lot. And the number of rides per year and you have to get not one employee that ever does this sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Might be impossible.

[Joe Getty]

A couple of kind of head scratching points and I would explain them to you but I don't know. The company emphasized that the amount awarded was far below what the plaintiffs had sought in the case and that no punitive damages were awarded. They're going to appeal the decision. While the plaintiff reported the incident which occurred in November of 23 to police officials never made an arrest or brought charges against the suspect.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

What's going on there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I would have to assume because there wasn't enough evidence to go forward.

[Joe Getty]

I would guess I can't come up.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there wasn't enough evidence.

[Joe Getty]

There's record obviously who the Uber driver was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. So there wasn't enough to commit to charge with a crime. But you could still get the gazillion dollar judgment. Which reminds me of what we were talking about last week. The whole roundup causes lymphoma case where the jurors ordered, I think it was $90 million. Even though the Science doesn't say that's possible. And it gets to the trial that starts today. Jury selection is over, but the actual arguments begin today in the social media trial. And, man, I could see a jury. Or is it a judge? I think it's a jury. I see a jury. Google is in Zuckerberg. They're so rich, hit him with a billion dollars. Even though there's not real solid science about any of this.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. In that specific question, did that cause my relatives to commit suicide? Was it?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Or. Man, there's a hell of a thing, a lot of things that go into being really, really mentally unhealthy. Social media is part of it, but what part of it? How much of it? Yeah, Tough one.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I was just thinking about the Uber thing. So if a McDonald's employee commits a rape, is McDonald's on the hook? I guess to be, it'd have to be at the McDonald's. Although that's not the same as an Uber car. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's. It's tough to compare the two circumstances.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there any other circumstance you could compare it to? But I just. A company be on the hook for all their employees and everything they do.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah. Attorneys can convince the jury they didn't do enough to keep their customers safe. They should have known that there was a danger. Blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the having a camera in the car is going to be a cost thing. People provide their own cars. And so I'm a teacher and I want to pick up a few extra dollars driving Uber now. And then I'll use my own car, but now I have to spend. I don't know how many hundreds of dollars you'd have to spend to install a camera system and recording device. It wouldn't be cheap, I wouldn't think.

[Joe Getty]

I've actually been in a number that had the cameras, I think for their.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably, yeah, probably.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what that costs. It wouldn't be nothing. Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Let's end with 91. Let's end the segment with 91. Do you want to mention anything we're going to talk about coming up, Jack, or shall we just end it clean.

[Jack Armstrong]

As we say we can end it clean.

[Joe Getty]

All right. Oh. Coming up, Gavin Newsom is very similar to Kamala Harris. Super smart guy making the comparison. He's doomed. Doomed, I tell you. But first, Mike Tyson.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we're doing. We're drinking and eating so much sugar, that's even becoming narcotic. And we're getting addicted to we haven't become an addict before we even know it. Addicted to sugar. Sugar pretty much of a narcotic. So we all love sugar. I'm one of those people too. So we have to exchange our pattern of eating in order to be really the strongest country in the world.

[Joe Getty]

That is words live by, Mike. That's words to live by.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I own a tiger and I have a face tattoo. That is one interesting dude. And if you don't believe him, he'll gnaw your ear off. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.

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So it's a combination of. Of I guess the networks are woke too and. Or nobody pays attention to the lyrics. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's both of those. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It was a staunchly anti George Bush. I'm ashamed of my country anthem from the Iraq war era, if you're not familiar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

You know, and then Bad Bunny all in Spanish. I mean, how portraying us all as.

[Jack Armstrong]

Idiots and they only did a couple of songs. Green Day's got a lot of hits, so. Oh yeah, that surprised me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Anyway, so Matt Iglesias, a super good writer, he wrote a piece recently about how Gavin Newsom is so like Kamala Harris. And I'll skip over, you know, a big chunk of it, he says what disturbs me about Newsom's front runner status for the would be nomination for the 2028 Democratic ticket is that I get the sense that most Democrats do not see this as a case of identifying the single most similar politician in Kamala Harris in the entire country and trying to run it back again. And he points out that the idea that because Harris is a black woman, Newsom, who kind of looks like someone who might get cast as president on a television show looks different is a huge swing in the opposite direction when same unpopular Stances on cultural issues, you know, California politics and blah blah, blah, which is absolutely true. But then he puts it better than I ever have. This is the point I've been trying to make for a long time. You've heard me make it. To get to the super bowl, you need to win several playoff games against the NFL teams with the best records. To get to the playoffs, you need to win a lot of regular season games. To become an NFL player, you need to beat the opposing football teams in college. This is a pretty normal tournament type structure and one that we seem pretty. We see pretty frequently in a variety of contexts because the playoffs are single. Well, it's kind of an aside, but in a broad sense, the super bowl is a football game and you make it to the super bowl by demonstrating skill at winning football games. I think we can all agree on that. You can imagine a world where politics is like that, where a Democratic Party presidential nominee is normally someone with a lot of demonstrated skill at beating Republicans in elections, and the Republican Party nominee is normally someone with a lot of demonstrated skills at beating Democrats in elections. I mean, it's so. And you're way ahead of me. I know, but it's so self evident that that's true. It's kind of useful to say it out loud. But Matt writes, for that to be the case, though, you'd need to live in a world where the typical election was highly competitive. That's not the world we live in. The vast majority of House members and state legislators hold seats that aren't remotely competitive in a D versus R sense on purpose. Yeah. Senate races and governor's mansions aren't as skewed, but there are still tons and tons of safe seats out there. As a result, a politician can achieve an extremely prominent role in American politics, like governor of the largest state in the country, without ever winning a hard race against a Republican.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is true. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And he points out it's not easy to gain statewide office in California. It's actually incredibly difficult. But it's all Democrats in a crowded field elbowing each other for the prime jobs, which generally is pledging the most fealty to the unions and the most loyal fealty to the trial attorneys and just one or two other constituencies.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's obviously true. And I'm sure in red states it's true. Some red states states, it's true the other direction, that if I were going to run for office in California without thinking about it a lot, and I'm a Democrat, I'd think, well, I need you know, what's the argument against the Republicans? That's not how you end up in office. It's what's your. What's your argument against other Democrats? What's you're going to be your lane among Democrats.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Which is a very different skill set, particularly in a mobbed up state.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Which is why I think he's doomed. He has not played in a game yet, a game against the sort of opposition he's going to face in the super bowl of politics.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you know how much Breezy Johnson won the gold medal by she won the women's downhill on what was it called? The death ribbon or the Ribbon of death or whatever it's called.

[Joe Getty]

That's the dudes course. Yeah. The women is the ribbon of pink in their Ha.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't know they had a different course for the men and the women. They do. Why? There's no biological difference between women and women. Why wouldn't she use the same course?

[Joe Getty]

It's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

She won the gold medal by 4/100 of a second against the German.

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[Jack Armstrong]

New England trying to find something about 2/3 of the way through. What is one of the worst performances ever by an offense in the Super Bowl? Can they change it? Trying to step up and shoot one downfield. It's intercepted. Villen throw in the middle. Julian Love has it. And they bring a pressure as well. And they get the knockdown as winter Spoo came under pressure and Uchena Nu is going the distance for a touch touchdown. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know why you call it one of the worst offensive performances. Which it was, but it was tremendous defensive performance.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, right. Yeah. By the way, the meaningless escapades in the fourth quarter made me a lot of money. Holy cow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You had. You actually bet money on the game?

[Joe Getty]

No, I had a couple of squares in one of those blind pools and I won the first quarter and the final score. That was fairly lucrative.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, that first three quarters. That was some dull, dull football there.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I know people who are serious football fans who weren't even glancing at the tv.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

They're, like, chatting out of view of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nine. Nothing. Halfway through the second quarter or whatever it was. Field goals scintillating.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely. The other point, very briefly, of this Gavin and Kamala piece that Matt Iglesias makes is that that the Democrats way overestimate the power of demographics. We've got a black woman. We need a white man. I know we lost with Hillary. She's a woman. So clearly we need.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

The rest of us are not obsessed with intersectionality like you are.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no. You could have a. Honest to God, it could be. Hispanic, trans man, whatever you want to come up with. If you believe in the founding principles and you're a conservative and. And you're for personal freedom and. And restraining our spending, I don't care. I don't freaking care at all.

[Joe Getty]

You look like a girl with a mustache, but I like your views, so not gonna worry about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I took in a fair amount of information over the weekend over the last week about the demise of the Washington Post. I think it's pretty interesting, which I'll get to Peggy Noonan's column in the Wall Street Journal about it in just a second.

[Joe Getty]

But hello, Noonan.

[Jack Armstrong]

Almost entirely. Not just like Democrats, but like the woke left pulling their hair out over how awful this is. The fact that nobody else is pulling their hair out over it should be everything you need to know. You're the only people that care that the Washington Post is going away. Woke lefties, the rest of us are a combination of. I don't read it anyway, which is most people I know, or I do read it, and it was so biased. I hated it. So good. I'm glad it's going away. So it's either I didn't read it anyway, or I'm glad it's going away. That's a big, big chunk of the country. And then have you seen anybody, really, other than the woke crowd that. That is bothered by the demise of its current form? So that. Well, she doesn't like its current form, though.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

She wants to go back to what it was before. But I think that says everything you need to know. Like, I love it when people post current or former Washington Post headlines and say, surprising, they're going out of business. You know, just crazy. S. Like, they had one from yesterday about the, you know, the queer agenda of figure skating at this year's Olympics. Like okay, there you go. Who's that for? It ain't for most of America, I'll tell you that.

[Joe Getty]

Who reads that and says, wow, that's wonderful.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I used to make this joke every Mother's Day. I wish I had some of the headlines still in front of me. Every Mother's Day you go to the Washington Post and it's non stop articles that don't fit in with the majority of people's view of Mother's Day, which is mom, dad, kids, and isn't it great that we all have a mom? It's somehow, you know, it's articles about she decided not to have kids and she's never looked back. Or you know, two trans women and what it's like to be a mom or whatever. All crap like that and no, just mainstream. And you're surprised that your readership had fallen off for a long time. That being said, Peggy Noonan, just some highlights from her piece in the Wall Street Journal. Cuz she's bothered by this. I fear sometimes that few people really care about journalism, but we are dead without it. You could stop there. She is absolutely right. I think very few people do care about real journalism and we are dead without it. That's. Both of those things are 1000% true.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes. And the conclusion is inescapable. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So someday something bad will happen, something terrible on a national scale. And the thing we'll need most literally to survive is information. Reliable information. A way to get it and then to get it to the public. That is what journalism is. Getting the information. That's a pretty good description of journalism getting the information. But the Post's diminishment, which looks like it's demise, isn't just a media story. Reaction shouldn't break down along ideological lines in which the left feels journalism is the precinct of and is sad. And the right feels journalism is its hulking enemy and isn't sad. Treat it that way and will fail to see the story for its true significance. The capital of the most powerful nation on earth appears to be without a vital, fully functioning newspaper to cover it. That isn't an occasion of jokes. It's a disaster. It's a disaster that the Washington Post of 30 years doesn't exist. It's not a disaster that the Washington Post of last week doesn't exist. If anything, that might be a step in the right direction. But if your overall point is.

[Joe Getty]

But it won't be replaced by anything that resembles the old.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it won't be right. It won't be so, you know, she's elderly. Peggy Noonan's very old. She's significantly older than Joe and I. And she's longing for a day that is gone and is not going to return. I wish that wasn't the case, but I sure think it is.

[Joe Getty]

So I know you're not super interested in the history of the Washington Post, but I found this really, really interesting. Katherine Boyle, who is a former Washington Post high up staffer, left the paper 12 years ago. And she points. What nobody's talking about was the motto when she left before they changed it to Democracy dies in darkness was for and about Washington. They changed it to communicate the diminished ambitions of once grand paper. The edict that went out and this was what'd she say a dozen years ago was anything that didn't directly impact the Bethesda or Fairfax raider. The Washington metro area had already been cut. They really cut back and said, it's going to be a local city newspaper free from the cost of international bureaus and expensive teams. We're gonna localize everything. We're gonna give up the ambition of being a global paper. We're going to be the Washington metropolitan daily newspaper. And that didn't work. It was right when daily city newspapers were in decline. And then when they decided, nope, we do need to go back to being global, that coincided with the woke thing. So they were doing the right thing, but in the wrong way. And so it was those two bad moves that really doomed the brand. I thought that was interesting. Thanks for honorary producer Jeff sending that to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

The. I don't. I don't know if it would have made any difference. I'm not sure it would make a heck of a lot of difference if these news organizations like the ABC Evening News or the Washington Post, some of your traditional media had done a better job of being less, you know, partisan, because I think the younger crowd was moving away from that anyway. It just didn't mean anything to him. I don't know. It's hard to say because we'll never know because they did. They got way, way, way partisan. But, you know, the younger crowd does not care that. That me and my dad came home from work and watched the CBS Evening News every night and flipped to either the New York Times, Washington Post, or local newspapers who printed a lot of articles from those newspapers.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

They just don't care. They get their news from somewhere else. It's in their hand on their phone, and it's more entertaining and it moves a lot faster and it doesn't care a lot Whether it gets it right or not. And it's very ideological too. I just, I don't know, it might have been dead no matter what. This just hurried it along.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and people don't appreciate this, I don't think. Or maybe y' all do, I don't know. But now medical schools are woke and crappy right now. But I think we'll take care of that eventually. But everybody understands the process of becoming a doctor more or less. You know, you excelled in high school and college, probably studying a science. You go to medical school, you bust your ass in school for years and years. You do your internist or. Sorry, what's the, what's the term when you're like a half a student doctor, you're making the rounds with the full on doctors and blah blah, blah. What's that term I'm looking for? Flit it out of my old head. Doesn't matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, like an apprentice residency.

[Joe Getty]

Residency, that's it. Yeah, your residency. So anyway, that's how you become a doctor. It used to be like nearly 100% journalists would be blue collar people who reported on the most local and smallest stuff. They demonstrated their skill at that and got promoted to the city council meeting. Over years, these, you know, hardworking working class people would rise to the top and you would get the national column, you would become known, you'd become an editor and editor in chief, but quite notably, you would work your way up through the city politics, the police beat, you know, your state politics or whatever. So you would be a very down to earth and be very realistic about the way the world works. And that was the ladder of journalism. Now you come out of Columbia at age 22 with these ridiculous fantasy Marxist beliefs about the world and you get hired by whatever media outlet and you've got a column that circulates around the country. And if you're snarky and toe the company line, maybe you get known. But it's a completely different profession. It's as if doctors were 22 year old SOC majors, the children of the rich who just figured, I'm as smart as anyone so I'm going to operate on people without a shred of life experience.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's all true, but then how about you combine that with. I fear sometimes that few people really care about journalism. I don't know which came first. I think you could have great nonpartisan journalism in a lot of these places and it still wouldn't work as a business model. I just don't know if it works.

[Joe Getty]

That's an Interesting question. I don't have an answer to that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That.

[Joe Getty]

It's an interesting thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

It might work now, but it ain't going to work much longer. I think it would take a serious crisis, like the kind of crisis none of us want to live through, to get everybody focused on issues and seeking out real information.

[Joe Getty]

I think didn't happen in Covid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then. It didn't happen in Covid.

[Joe Getty]

How serious do you need the other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Direction during COVID Right, right.

[Joe Getty]

Do you still have that piece open by Peggy? Yeah, I loved at the end of it where she quotes Thomas Jefferson.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I actually don't have that part.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you don't? Oh, okay. It was essentially Jefferson said, given the choice between no government but media or no media. But actually he said it in the other. But he said he would much rather have a world with no government but a free media because at least you'd know what's going on. You'd have a hope. If you have a government but no media, you're doomed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Doomed.

[Joe Getty]

But we're doomed. But the. We've recognized.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what percentage of people are perfectly willing to choose a media that they know is biased and not giving them all the information? I think that's a lot of people.

[Joe Getty]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe most people correct.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, then you absolutely are doomed. And as a business model, there's just no point in even trying to start a newspaper. We're going to be fair to both sides and hit down the middle. There's just not really a crowd for that.

[Joe Getty]

Boy. Read either the new book about Tucker Carlson or a good thorough review of that book. That's precisely what he ran into. He wanted the Daily Caller. That was his outfit, right? He wanted it to be traditional, serious, smart, objective journalism. And then they dabbled in really red, meaty, clickbaity stories, and those just crushed the responsible stuff. And he said, okay, I get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dang it.

[Joe Getty]

Dang it is right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Screamed, screamed. And now we're all speaking Spanish.

[Joe Getty]

No bueno.

[Jack Armstrong]

D? Se Bad bunnies are new king. All right, we will finish strong.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry about that.

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I don't know who that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I never heard of Bad Bunnies.

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I don't know what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know no Bad bunny song.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I ain't never heard of bro till now.

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I don't have one.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't listen to him.

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I don't know any song.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think I have one. I don't have one. I don't really listen to Bad Buddy.

[Joe Getty]

I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a Seattle Seahawks players asked their favorite Bad Bunny song and they at least all the people interviewed there said, I don't have one. I don't know who that is. Is. And I don't deny that he's the top streamed artist in the world. I'm not pretending that that's not true. It's just I don't personally know anybody and my son's super into hip hop and all his friends and that kind of music, everything like that. None of them are in it. So I don't know who it is.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody is. It's people in some Spanish speaking people in the United States. But Mexico and Venezuela and Colombia and Peru and Ecuador and South America and Spain, presumably the. According to some, the wellspring of the Spanish language. So it's the rest of the world, which is what Roger Goodell is hot for, apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have.

[Joe Getty]

He's grabbing in his crotch like Bad Bunny grabbed it is yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have breaking Epstein news. Oh, good lord.

[Joe Getty]

So the donkey made that noise when Epstein touched him? Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ghislaine Maxwell is testifying today in front of Congress. Her attorney just said that she can clear President Trump's name in exchange for clemency. She can completely clear Trump's name if she's let loose and free, which completely.

[Joe Getty]

Removes any credibility to her clearing Trump's name. Please. I'll deny the existence of gravity for a million dollars there. Gravity doesn't exist. That's settled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why did she get moved to the cushy prison? That's pro quo. Well, what was the quid or the.

[Joe Getty]

Quo in return for the initial interview saying to the Justice Department officials, no, Trump didn't do anything wrong. They moved her to a cushy prison.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I just. Somebody just sent me a clip of the 1993 Super bowl halftime Michael Jackson, which it was all about love and bringing everyone together and blah, blah, blah. See that man? I get that small T, but at.

[Joe Getty]

Least I. Jacko was a hero, a real role model. I miss him.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was a half a pedophile or maybe a full pedophile. So I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Allegedly.

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It's final thoughts.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm stronger.

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It's final thoughts.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's final thoughts. I'm Stronger. Get ready with Katie Green and Michael Angelo.

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Final thoughts.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm strong together. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. There he is pressing the buttons in the control room. Michelangelo, lead us off, off, would you? Yeah, it's been a difficult time today. I've been sitting here in the control room trying to eat this small bag of potato chips. But I keep crying every time I open it up and think of the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Farmers, you know, right in the relationship between a father and a daughter.

[Joe Getty]

Such a moving potato chip ad. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, I just want to thank Michelangelo for the highlight of my super bowl.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which was that dip pretty good. The dip pretty dang good. Buy the dip. Although when you've eaten a pound of it like I did.

[Joe Getty]

Gonna have to eat a lot of prunes to balance that out. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you don't get to do that. You don't get to play on my emotions as a father and all these different sorts of things and then try to sell me junk food. That's not cool. Stop doing that.

[Joe Getty]

My final thought is three words. Three words.

[Jack Armstrong]

Words.

[Joe Getty]

Dogs catching frisbees. That's the next halftime show. Enough with the crap. You know, if you maybe the best college marching bands in the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't remember the super bowl halftime shows of the 80s. Old friend of the Armstrong and Getty show, Sandra Furlong Cozumor texted me, bring back up with people. She actually danced in up with people in the super bowl back in the day. A bunch of young, fresh faced people smiling and dancing to pop music with people.

[Joe Getty]

I guess I'm in favor of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

So many people to thanks. So little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com for the hot links. Katie's corner. Drop us a note mailbag at Armstrong&getty.com what do you think of all this stuff? Let us know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hanson just told me in my ear. He said saw up with people twice live. How did that happen? I will see you tomorrow. God bless America. Armstrong and Getty. If you're gonna tell this tale about your homeland, I didn't learn in a single thing.

[Joe Getty]

I can only come to one conclusion. The message is learn Spanish.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the way I took it. You don't like it, Learn Spanish.

[Joe Getty]

Like Jill Biden has.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Getty show. Get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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