Didn't We Already Eat Several Times?

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Didn't We Already Eat Several Times?"

Date: September 12, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview:

This episode of Armstrong & Getty revolves around the dramatic fallout of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, its cultural and generational impact—especially among young men—and the tension between reflecting on political violence and seeking normalcy in everyday life. The hosts also touch on related current events, the value of organizations like the Boy Scouts, and broader societal issues, all laced with their trademark wit and irreverence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Arrest in Charlie Kirk Assassination

• [00:46, 01:37] News emerges that a suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination has been apprehended, allegedly after confessing to his father, who convinced him to turn himself in with the help of a minister.
  • Quote (Jack Armstrong, 01:17): "Wow."
  • Both hosts express the widespread shock and cultural reach of the assassination, noting its penetration into mainstream consciousness—in settings ranging from social gatherings to major sports events like the Yankees’ moment of silence.
  • Quote (Joe Getty, 03:18): "I don't think I fully appreciated what a big Deal. He was to young men. I mean, the fact that the New York Yankees put Charlie Kirk's face up on the screen and had a moment of silence..."

2. The Impact on Young Men and Cultural Reflection

• Discussion about Charlie Kirk's resonance among young men:
  • Joe Getty (03:43): Shares that even Gavin Newsom’s son was a fan, underlining Kirk’s influence.
  • Armstrong notes Kirk’s unique stance of "rejecting the notion that to be a male is somehow to be diseased," reflecting what many young men have heard from educators.
• The assassination has become a generational touchstone, compared to historical events in terms of pervasiveness.

3. Handling of Political Violence in the Media

• Hosts address discrepancies in media coverage and the preliminary nature of some details (e.g., possible suspect motives, social media rumors).
  • Joe Getty (10:46): "I'm not surprised by that at all... all you have to say is preliminary law enforcement reports said. And that is disclaimer enough. People understand that."
• Discuss the possibility of “statistical distortion” regarding political violence and its attribution in media.
  • Jack Armstrong (18:09): "There is some serious statistic distortion slash gaslighting going on on the question of political violence."

4. Generational Challenges & Mentorship: The Boy Scouts Anecdote

• [05:26 – 07:56] Joe recounts his experience at a Boy Scouts fundraiser and praises the organization’s role in building leadership among young men (and now women).
  • Stresses the importance of environments where "toxic masculinity" isn’t a theme, and empowerment is central.
  • Joe Getty (06:07): "...it's really about leadership skills. That's what it's all about."
• Both hosts reflect on societal challenges faced by boys and men today.

5. Lighter Moments: Overeating and Everyday Life

• [08:10 – 09:32] Armstrong & Getty humorously discuss recent overindulgence at social dinners, with Armstrong quipping about family-style Italian food and Getty about desserts.
  • Joe Getty (09:20): "'Didn't we already eat several times?' What are we doing right?"

6. News Roundup with Katie Green

• [13:48 – 18:09] Katie Green returns as news anchor, delivering a rapid round of news:
  • Suspect in custody for Kirk’s murder (NBC)
  • Viral trauma of the Kirk assassination video on children (Washington Post)
  • Epidemic of “swatting” threats on college campuses post-shooting (ABC)
  • Gaza City destruction amid Israel’s ongoing military operations (CNN)
  • Public schools’ failing grades and parental demands for change (Fox News)
  • Oddities like an emotional support alligator banned from Walmart (NY Post)
  • Satirical note from Babylon Bee:
    • Katie Green (18:00): "Why won't conservatives give up their guns? Ask the people who continue to shoot at them."

7. Media Criticism & Political Violence Statistics

• Detailed discussion on partisan bias in media coverage of violence and the manipulative use of statistics to frame “right wing” versus “left wing” violence.
  • Jack Armstrong (26:18): "It is one of the... most almost hilariously dishonest expressions of statistics I've ever heard in my life."

8. The Psychology Behind the Suspect

• Examination of the personal dimensions: The suspect is only 22, with a possibly still-forming personality and ideological motivation.
  • Jack Armstrong (28:31): "...a 22 year old personality still forming, brain still forming... entirely possible we have an impressionable young man swept up by the ideology..."
  • Both express sadness at the tragic outcome and the frequency with which ordinary people make terrible decisions.

9. Legacy and Next Steps for Young People

• Listener emails prompt reflection on how those inspired by Kirk should move forward. Advice includes amplifying his civil approach, avoiding the “assassin’s veto” (being silenced by violence), and drawing on historical examples of resilience after assassination (e.g., post-MLK, post-crucifixion of Jesus).
  • Joe Getty reads listener Star’s email (37:03):
    • "Let's focus on the fear for our democracy and hammer more on the value of his methods... if followers... let us become disciples of Charlie's method. Civil dialogue over political issues."
• Debate around whether Kirk’s absence will galvanize other influencers towards healthier or more antagonistic rhetoric.
  • Joe Getty (38:28): "Are those young men going to... gravitate towards somebody else who wants to have reasonable debate, or are they gonna... be pushed into the more flamethrower type young man podcasters, influencers out there, say, see, they want you dead..."

10. International & Other Major News Briefs

News is put in perspective with other global and national crises (e.g., Russia-Poland drone strikes, Gaza, economics/inflation).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the Weight of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

• Joe Getty (02:30): "I continue to be mostly impressed by the way it's being handled in the main, better than anything I can remember."
• Jack Armstrong (03:18): "The penetration in the American consciousness is practically unprecedented."
• Jack Armstrong (03:56): "He rejected the notion that to be a male is somehow to be diseased..."

Media Critique

• Joe Getty (11:00): "You have to believe that if it said... MAGA on the bullets, they would have gone ahead and run with that story."
• Jack Armstrong (11:09): "...if some young lefty influencer was slaughtered... they would report that immediately, of course."

Civil Discourse & Legacy

• Reader Star’s email (37:03): "Let's focus on the fear for our democracy and hammer more on the value of his methods... let us become disciples of Charlie's method. Civil dialogue over political issues."

Lighter Banter

• Joe Getty (09:20): "I've been to meals before... didn't we already eat several times? What are we doing right?"
• On the alligator story (17:10):
  • Jack Armstrong: "Well, that's just racism, man."
  • Joe Getty: "Walmart was a bridge too far."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:46 | Breaking news: Kirk suspect in custody | | 01:37 | Details on turning in of suspect | | 03:18 | National reaction, Yankees tribute | | 05:26 | Boy Scouts fundraiser, generational mentorship | | 07:56 | Girl Scouts, overindulgence at dinners | | 08:54 | Italian food, “Didn’t we already eat?” anecdote | | 13:48 | Katie Green’s news segment begins | | 17:10 | Emotional support alligator, other quirky news | | 18:00 | Babylon Bee satirical segment on gun rights | | 26:18 | Discussion: political violence statistics in media | | 28:31 | Psychological profile of suspect, role of youth | | 37:03 | Listener emails on Kirk’s legacy and next steps | | 38:28 | Will future influencers escalate or de-escalate rhetoric? |

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, irreverent, but deeply reflective in the wake of tragedy.
• Witty banter and dry humor continue even amidst somber topics, providing moments of levity ("Didn’t we already eat several times?").
• Hosts strive for honest, sometimes blunt discussions of media bias, societal challenges, and generational divides.

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Conclusion

This episode interweaves national trauma, generational introspection, and the everyday absurdities of life. Armstrong & Getty dig into the meaning and aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination—especially for young men—and the dangers of letting political violence dictate civic discourse. Through it all, their signature wit keeps the discussion grounded and accessible.

If you missed the episode, this summary captures the essential news, cultural critique, listener engagement, and trademark humor that define Armstrong & Getty’s approach to turbulent times.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Announcer]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I'm Strong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now here's I'm Strong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from Studio C. This is the Armstrong and Getty Show. We're going to start the show officially.

[News Reporter]

At mark, I think with a high degree of certainty we have him in custody. I don't want to go too far. I'd like to tell you some stories at how it happened. But essentially somebody that was very close to him turned him in. And the person was involved with law enforcement, but was a person of faith, a minister, and brought him to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic. And the father convinced the son, this is it, and he's there now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. That's quite a development.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not sure precisely who's who in that story.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I got.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure that will all come out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I haven't heard a word on any news outlet other than what Trump said, that it was somebody that was very close to him that turned him in.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the father went to the son and said, this is it, and brought him in. Okay. All right. Well, we'll all find out, I suppose. But it would certainly appear, as the President was unequivocal, that they believe strongly they have the assassin of Charlie Kirk in custody.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, it'll be real interesting to hear what this crazy person thinks to the extent that we hear anything now. Lawyers will, you know, tell him to not say anything, I imagine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

But they will be able to dig. They'll dig through his social media background and computers and all kinds of stuff will come out. We'll find that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's entirely possible somebody who's willing to commit such a horrendous, inhuman act in the name of some beliefs is desperate to tell you what those beliefs are. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Joe Getty]

Right. We definitely will not spend all four hours on this today like we did yesterday, but we will spend some. It is clearly been a very big story for lots of people, and I continue to be mostly impressed by the way it's being handled in the main, better than anything I can remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Mostly impressed, definitely. I think it's interesting that you and I were both at organization social events last night, and mine was definitely not a bunch of college men. And everybody was completely aware of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and completely horrified by it, bar none. The penetration in the American consciousness is practically unprecedented.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't think I fully appreciated what a big Deal. He was to young men. I mean, the fact that the New York Yankees put Charlie Kirk's face up on the screen and had a moment of silence and everybody was silent. They. They either understood or there's enough young men that work with the Yankees or whatever. They realize this is our audience. We gotta, we gotta recognize this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Including players. Yeah, it's almost certain. Uhhuh.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and Gavin Newsom said, you know, Gavin Newsom, who had Charlie Kirk on for his first guest on his podcast, said, my son absolutely loves you. That's how I became aware of you. So it, you know, it was a big deal for that crowd. So.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Partly because he rejected the notion that to be a male is somehow to be diseased, which is what these poor young fellows have been hearing from their leftist educators and sickos now for. For a generation. It's horrible.

[Joe Getty]

So the FBI is going to do an update shortly on the assassination suspect. We'll bring you any news out of that, of course. Course. As we said in our promos for today's show, all the other big stories of the world do not get put on hold when another story gets all the attention. That's not the way life works, as you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. They don't wait for us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And you still got the whole Russia sending drones into Poland thing and how Europe's going to react to that and everything that went on with the, the strike in Qatar and Hamas and Israel and the economy. There is some inflation numbers that came out today and we can get to all that stuff, too. Although it is Friday.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is indeed. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I was at a dinner.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. I just confirmed that it is Friday. That's my role here.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm fact checking. Live fact check.

[Joe Getty]

I sort of felt like your confirmation was. And what difference does that make? Was yours.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, no, I was going to say something about. And we will certainly, you know, have some. Some fun and frivolity and that sort of thing. But then I thought, I don't have.

[Joe Getty]

The mood for Got the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stupid.

[Joe Getty]

I was in an event last night for the Boy Scouts. I've gotten super into Boy Scouts lately as I've talked about on the air a lot. My son joined the Boy Scouts last March. He is absolutely loving it. It's one of the best things that's happened in his life. I've learned a lot more about the scouting organization and how absolutely amazing it is for primarily young men. The.

[Jack Armstrong]

The.

[Joe Getty]

This was the big fundraiser in our local area last night, and it was because everything is scout run. Pretty much everything. I mean, there was an adult that came out and introduced the. But then was ran the whole thing. I mean, that's the way it all is. It's all about leadership qualities, which I didn't know. I thought scouting was all about learning to make a fire and what you do if you get bit by a rattlesnake.

[Jack Armstrong]

Certainly canoe paddling figures large. Right.

[Joe Getty]

But it's really about leadership skills. That's what it's all about. And anyway, the person that ran it was a girl Eagle Scout who ran the thing. But it's primarily men. And to have an organization out there that is about uplifting young men and empowering young men and making them feel like they can do things and, and it's, you know, the, the phrase toxic masculinity or anything like that is not going to be heard anywhere near anything in scouting. I just couldn't love it more because as we all know, boys are up against it in our current culture, in my opinion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And I know there's some sensitivity judging by emails and that sort of thing for the fact that now the Boy Scouts have been forced to include young women, girls.

[Joe Getty]

It's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would, I would suggest that. Yeah, the glass is 98% full. It is all about tradition and building strong, capable Americans. And let's, let's keep our eye on.

[Joe Getty]

Trust me, I'm very, very close to it. It is fantastic. It's one of the best things I've been around. We're going to get more involved in raising money for it next year. I just couldn't have been more pleased and ever. They put a thing up on the screen of famous Eagle Scouts and it was really cool. Lots of presidents, business leaders, athletes, very successful people. And doesn't surprise me that a lot of were Eagle Scouts. So I just love that and I throw that out as a. You know, the last couple of days been pretty negative and sad and it was a lot about this, this hero to young men, Charlie Kirk being assassinated and etc. And you know, I was at an organization that's all about boostering young men and young women if they want to. There is still the Girl Scouts. And I don't know exactly how you decide as a girl if you want to be in the Boy Scouts or the Girls Scouting USA or the Girl Scouts. But anyway, they announced a new Girl Scout cookie today. They're adding to their Girl Scout cookies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now you got my attention.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

So they don't call it the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts anymore. And you've Is it both Scouting USA or is it Scouting USA and the Girl Scouts is called also Scouting usa? I have no Scouting USA with ovaries.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's optional. I don't know and I don't care. This sort of thing is not what I get jazzed about. I think it's Scouting USA and Girl Scouts. But anyway, the main thing I was going to mention is there's a meal is a bit in the big hotel right here next to the radio station. If I didn't have kids, I would have just slept in our office last night because I was at this thing. I ate way too much. I ate every morsel they put in front of me. Oh, you know, so you got bread, you got salad. Then we had chicken, which was not rubber. It was delicious. And rice and vegetables. And then this piece of chocolate cake the size of my head. And just, just what you need at like 8 o' clock at night at the end of a long work day, it's a great big giant piece of chocolate cake to energize you for bed. Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, my thing, it was like family style Italian food and the courses just kept coming and coming and it was just, it was horrific. I was like over full before, like the main course came. And as I said, the old joke about Italian food, the problem with eating Italian food is two or three days later you're hungry again. Oh my gosh. Why are the Italians so thin, huh? Do they smoke a lot? Is that it?

[Joe Getty]

I have been to meals before they came bringing. They keep bringing out more rounds of food and like, did I have a stroke or wake up from a nap? Didn't we already eat several times? What are we doing right?

[Jack Armstrong]

I needed a map of this to know where I was going and how long it would take anyway.

[Joe Getty]

So is there anything that could come out of as soon as they make the announcements about this assassination suspect that would change anything in your mind?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's an intriguing question of.

[Joe Getty]

I thought it was interesting. Like I said yesterday, usually you have the person right away and then so immediately got all their information. And a lot of it becomes about that we had the interesting experience for what, 36 hours of being able to just kind of generally discuss political violence in the main without having a face to put on this one. And I don't know, I think as soon as information starts coming out on him and things are going to start to go a little sideways pretty quickly. I mean, did he actually have on his bullets some transgender antifa stuff? Has that been Nailed down yet?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, there's. I've heard nothing on that beyond the law enforcement memo.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody's disputed it, although I didn't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

All they've said is, you've got to be careful about preliminary Blah, blah, blah. That's.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. None of the newscasts had that info on them last night that I saw.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not surprised by that at all. Yeah, I mean, because all you have to say is preliminary law enforcement reports said. And that is disclaimer enough. People understand that. Throw in an extra sentence if you want, but no, they ignored it completely.

[Joe Getty]

You have to believe that if it said. I mean, this would have been weird, but if it had said MAGA on the bullets, they would have gone ahead and run with that story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, in a scenario where I'm not gonna name a specific person, but if some young lefty influencer was slaughtered. Yeah, they would report that immediately, of course. Oh, they're dishonest. Completely dishonest.

[Joe Getty]

And I was watching in the middle of the night because I ate so much chocolate cake I couldn't sleep. I was watching Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders. There's no tea in Sanders. What are you doing? There's no tea in my name. Bernie Sanders put out a four minute sitting at a desk video last night that Mark Halpern said was the best thing Bernie Sanders has ever done. I thought it was really good. It was the practically first example I've seen where people call out both sides, including their own side on this sort of stuff, and just flat out say that we can't, we can't operate like this. There's just no way we can go forward. So we'll play a little bit of that.

[News Reporter]

Bernard Sanders.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Bernie's an interesting character. He's wrong about everything. But I believe him to be sincere mostly, especially for a politician. He's like the most sincere. He's one of the most sincere on the scene. He's wrong about everything.

[Joe Getty]

I do like that about him. I think he actually believes all that stuff he says. And I mean, and he, he goes against his own party on illegal immigration and a number of things that, that. Because he solidly believes these things. But he also does believe you should be able to go out there and say things that are unpopular without getting shot. That's the only way we can operate as a country. And he's right about that. Anyway, we got headlines on the way and a bunch of other stuff. Here's our text. Line 415295, KFTC, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Hey, everybody, look, Katie's back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my gosh.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, Katie. Katie, the news lady.

[Katie Green]

Hi. Hi, guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

How you doing?

[Katie Green]

I'm doing well. I've missed you a lot.

[Joe Getty]

This should make you happy. A lot of people were really concerned when we had Jensen filling in that you had either quit or been fired or something.

[Katie Green]

Well, I'm very grateful for Jensen for filling in.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that was nice.

[Katie Green]

That was a much needed process I was going through. But everything's good and I'm happy to be back.

[Joe Getty]

So are you going to talk to us later about the whole IVF thing or maybe in the podcast?

[Katie Green]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

Awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, looking forward to that. Well, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Hooray, Katie.

[Katie Green]

Alrighty, let's start with NBC. Trump says person is in custody linked to Charlie Kirk manhunt.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And so it is being confirmed the guy, the person in custody, confessed to his dad that he's the guy who did it and then dad convinced him to turn himself in. Wow, you talk about some drama there. As a, as a, as a father. Whoa.

[Katie Green]

From the Washington Post quote, my kid has seen this. Now what? Parents reeling as Charlie Kirk video goes viral.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we talked about this yesterday. Both Hansen and I had the experience of, you know, this video. Do you want to watch it? Do you want to not watch it? Should it be on the news? You pick up your kid from school and realize they've seen every angle multiple times, slow motion all afternoon, them and their friends, that is. I don't think there's Any change in that reality. But that's disturbing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I continue to wonder whether the human soul is actually capable of enduring what we have brought upon ourselves in the modern world. But I don't know. As I often say, I guess we'll all find out together.

[Katie Green]

From abc U. S college campuses are expected experiencing an epidemic of swatting calls following the shooting death of Charlie Kirk.

[Joe Getty]

That's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder who is swatting whom.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, getting back to the video thing, we should talk about this more later. It's impossible that it doesn't desensitize people. I mean, that's just the way the human brain works. You can become desensitized to anything through repetition. Absolutely anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Katie Green]

From cnn, satellite images reveal wide destruction in Gaza City as Israel steps up its assault.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'll bet Israel didn't mind the focus being off them for the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

At least in the U.S. yeah. As Netanyahu had given a an evacuation order for all of Gaza's city and said, we're going to go in, we're going to mop up the last of Hamas and it's going to be rough. Rough for everyone.

[Katie Green]

From Fox News Nation's report card gives public schools a failing grade. Parents are demanding better.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they should. Vehemently, aggressively if indeed government schools can be saved. Some can, but a lot can't.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Post. Pennsylvania. Emotional support alligator banned from Walmart after receiving VIP treatment at restaurants.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's just racism, man.

[Joe Getty]

So somebody pulled off having an emotional support alligator at restaurants, but Walmart was a bridge too far.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, drew the line there.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, that reminds me, we got to get to this headline eventually. I want to get this exactly right. US Considers banning Iranians from shopping at Costco during UN Meetings. We're going to ban the damn Iranians from our Costcos.

[Joe Getty]

It's about time. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay with us.

[Katie Green]

Study finds listening to joyful music can ease motion sickness, but sad songs can make it worse.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I'll be damned. I have a real motion sickness problem at this point in my life. So joyful music will help with that. Okay.

[Katie Green]

And finally from the Babylon Bee quote, why won't conservatives give up their guns? Ask the people who continue to shoot at them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oof. Yeah, pretty good. There is some serious statistic distortion slash gaslighting going on on the question of political violence. I want to get to that because you're surely going to at those numbers.

[Joe Getty]

The FBI is going to release a whole bunch of information in just the next couple minutes. We'll have it for you on the.

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[Joe Getty]

The way he laid out the story earlier today that they they've caught the person they believe almost certainly that killed Charlie Kirk. But did he tell his dad or did he tell a pastor that Trump returned referred to as father? I guess we'll know pretty soon when the FBI has their little press conference.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two sources told CNN that the man in custody who's been named, he's a 22 year old Utah resident, confessed to his father that he was the shooter.

[Joe Getty]

Okay man, you talk about some serious, serious drama. Your kid come you I mean dad certainly had heard the the news. Oh it was the biggest news in America and it happened in their town, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if there's any helping you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if there's any joy to be found in this. I. You know, with all due respect to cow and your childish glee, we do have childish glee.

[Joe Getty]

And what did I do Michael? In your your ear he told me that he remembered I wanted to be on the record for I remember the week so.

[Katie Green]

Oh, so you got set up again.

[Joe Getty]

So I couldn't it couldn't be hung around my neck. I didn't want the goat's horns put on me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I actually find this inappropriate, but I will do it.

[Joe Getty]

Doing cow or mocking you for getting cow?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, not the mocking per se, but I just. What are we doing here?

[Joe Getty]

It's a good question.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean Charlie Kirk slaughtered in cold blood. They found the guy the news is just coming out.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, wait a second.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

Now you're at Joe Getty's school for arguing unfairly.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Getty]

No, absolutely not. You put us in a position where we can say nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's your fault.

[Katie Green]

We've been.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a bad wrestler. All right, so if the President was assassinated, we're just receiving word that President.

[Joe Getty]

Trump got a new traffic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Joe forgot cow. Hahaha. Seriously? Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, man. That's for you taking away my joy. Yeah, exactly. Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't deserve joy, Joe.

[Joe Getty]

Being a joy thief on Friday, that's what this is.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got. You got sucky joy. Get better joy. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Getty]

This is what I know. Yeah, it's been a rough couple of days. It's the only thing we had to look forward to. And now you're trying to stomp that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Out out a bunch of little children. That's my story. Huh?

[Katie Green]

Fun sucker.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, there are any other shows hiring, give me a call. I may be available.

[Joe Getty]

Katie may be with child and you're acting like this.

[Jack Armstrong]

We don't need you. That was a good one.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Katie's not supposed to be under stress. And look what you're doing.

[Katie Green]

And you're bringing my blood pressure up higher than it should be. I wanted some fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's hate speech. There you go. I'm reduced to that. You're a racist.

[Joe Getty]

That's all I got.

[Jack Armstrong]

The last refuge of the idiot. You're a racist. Right? All right, for the love of heaven, let's take a fond look back at the week that was. It's cow clips of the week right now.

[Announcer]

Shots fired during a speech by right wing activist Charlie Kirk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some disgusting coverage on msnb. Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.

[Joe Getty]

This nation is in desperate need of prayer and some kind of an intervention.

[Katie Green]

We only have a democracy if we settle our disagreements with words.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a dark day for our state. I want to be remembered for courage from my faith.

[News Reporter]

I think with a high degree of certainty. We have him.

[Katie Green]

Arena Zarud getting on the train. Brown rises from his seat and unprovoked. The video shows him stab her.

[News Reporter]

You know, when you have horrible killings, you have to take horrible actions.

[Joe Getty]

Poland saying 19 Russian drones violating its airspace again.

[News Reporter]

Guns of August. How about the drones of September?

[Joe Getty]

I'm worried.

[Jack Armstrong]

The point is, when there's dissonance in.

[Joe Getty]

Data that you have to sort of watch how it all works out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got it. The message apparently bears the signature of President Trump.

[Joe Getty]

And comes with an outline of what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Appears to be a naked woman.

[News Reporter]

I don't do drawings.

[Joe Getty]

Israeli airstrikes targeting Hamas leadership in Doha, Qatar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you get the targets you were seeking?

[News Reporter]

If we didn't get them this time, we'll get them the next time.

[Announcer]

The nation's report card for 12th graders across the US shows reading and math scores dropped to historic lows.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[News Reporter]

So if I don't know the two.

[Katie Green]

Baby raccoons immediately, I just started doing CPR on it because there's probably a.

[Joe Getty]

Lot of people out there that still only know me from those viral clips. A guy screaming tiger blood and winning and all this other nonsense, watching in the stands, his now favorite player on his favorite teams had just hit a homer. And Andrew, his dad, got that baseball. A woman started berating Feltwell, claiming the ball was hers.

[Jack Armstrong]

He took it from me.

[Joe Getty]

What was she screaming at you? I can't even repeat that on air.

[News Reporter]

She.

[Joe Getty]

Very vulgar.

[Jack Armstrong]

I may have suggested earlier in the show that the little boy should go to a baseball game with a real man and dad can attend a fashion show.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow. That was worse than the retelling than it was originally.

[Jack Armstrong]

The. At least the first two thirds of that was the darkest cow ever. It was a Black Angus, but, I.

[Joe Getty]

Mean, holy cow, it was the clips of the week. This has been a violent week. This will have lasting repercussions on the political body in one way or another.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Of what sort? It's so hard to know.

[Joe Getty]

You had within a couple of days of each other the most ubiquitous, ubiquitous killing videos I can remember. I mean, the Kennedy video gets shown a lot, but for most of us is long before, you know, we were born. It's a, you know, it's a. It's a historical artifact, but something that happened. You know, right now, seeing a human being being killed, two videos within a couple of days that, geez, what 80% of the country saw that's going to leave some sort of mark. I don't know what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you could. You could answer that in a number of different ways. I think it is notable, and I almost hate to go to this, but it's true that the first was directly related to progressive policies, and the second was almost certainly progressive activist pulling a trigger. And that gets to the statistic that's being thrown around a lot. And Hanson, I think, is working on the audio about the percentage of extremist violence that is right wing versus left wing. And a lot of lefties are pushing it. It is one of the most almost hilariously dishonest expressions of statistics I've ever heard in my life. And we'll explain why as soon as we get the audio.

[Joe Getty]

So the name is out of the killer. I have no interest, I don't want to know it, I don't want to remember it. I am not going to remember the names of scumbag killer. So I'm just not going to do that anymore. You know, part of what motivates them.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I would agree, is this one different. Maybe that it should live in infamy with John Wilkes Booth.

[Joe Getty]

Lee Harvey Oswald, maybe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Although even that's tough if your goal is to be Lee Harvey Oswald. Some somebody people talk about 60 years later mentioning your name. I don't know that that's a difficult one, but. So as the news is coming out that he, he kills Charlie Kirk, he jumps off that roof, maybe you've seen that video that's out now, jumps off the roof, runs across the lawn, apparently gets in some sort of vehicle, hops on the interstate, drives home. Then at some point guilt gets to him or something and he tells his dad and his dad convinces him to turn himself in. So dad sounds like a completely reasonable, decent person. Dad is going to tell authorities a lot about what his kid was like in his thoughts and political beliefs, I would guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And I suspect that we end up in a place of just sadness.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

A 22 year old personality still forming, brain still forming. As we've learned, you're ability to measure the good and bad, the risk and reward of what you're doing really doesn't solidify in most people, especially males until mid 20s. Mid to late 20s probably. I'm guessing, I don't know. And I will correct this the second I find out. It's entirely possible we have an impressionable young man swept up by the ideology that's been fed into his head over and over again. And he made the most horrific decision another human being can make.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we've had this experience over and over. When it turns out to just be a regular numb nut who did a dumb thing. It's just so depressing. It almost makes it easier if it's some complicated multi country James Bond like sort of. No, it's just some dope who had a gun. Very depressing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Who made a dopey decision. Anyway, Charlie's legacy will live on and I want to talk about that specifically. A lot of young people have reached out to us via email and said what am I supposed to do? Now, and I do want to talk about that. But speaking of legacies, a word from our friends at Trust and Will. This is important. It's not fun. Judy and I just went through the process, but it's incredible. It's a great feeling once you get it done. Get security and peace of mind by making an estate plan now so the people you love aren't doomed to lengthy, expensive, bitter legal battles over what your wishes would be.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

As a father of two teenage boys, I'm pretty intrigued by the drama around this kid. He's 22. So he's an adult. You said he's 22.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, according to reports.

[Joe Getty]

But, you know, you're a child telling his dad and his dad convinced him to turn himself in. It'll be interesting to know if this is one of those. Dad knew his son was troubled and had been trying to deal with it for years or a complete shock to him or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's some heavy drama, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yep. Terrible. Awful. Mailbag's gonna be pretty good, though. We can get to that.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think was the whole turn yourself in thing? Start there and if the kid says no, you call the police? I suppose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably. I'm guessing they had a reasonably good relationship and dad convinced them there is no good that can come of this. The least evil now is turn yourself in. And for whatever reasons the young man agreed. I can't imagine it's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

I'll shut up about this so we can get to Mailbag. But it's interesting. The kid had a fairly well thought out plan for escaping.

[Jack Armstrong]

To murder another human being and escape. Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

But nothing beyond the get in your car and drive home apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

And was compelled by his soul or something to confess what he'd done.

[Joe Getty]

Did he think there wouldn't be cameras that would lead to him getting caught. He thought he could go home and then just go back about living his.

[Jack Armstrong]

Life or I can't imagine.

[Joe Getty]

Me neither. Okay, so mailbag on the way.

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[Joe Getty]

Man USA Today has the greatest chart out about adult milestones and when we used to hit them going back to the 70s and when young people hit them now. And it's about like you'd expect.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I'll look forward to that. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day and before I unleash it, you know who's overjoyed giggling at the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping. Oh yeah, to wit, George Keenan, the statesman, the diplomat said this in 1946. And by the way, the Latin phrase modus vivendi means essentially an agreement, a solid agreement, a shared understanding. In summary, we have here a political force he's talking about the Soviet Union committed fanatically to the belief that with the US there, there can be no permanent modus vivendi, that it is desirable and necessary that the internal harmony of our society be disrupted, our traditional way of life be destroyed, the international authority of our state be broken. And they've been committed to tearing our society apart since the days of the Soviet Union and continuing in Vladimir Putin's Russia through a variety of means. Anyway, don't fall for it.

[Joe Getty]

Mailbag One interesting thing I heard pointed out yesterday, kind of, you know, ironic with what you just said. Charlie Kirk was huge on Tick Tock. One of the reasons so many young men in the country, saw highlights of him arguing with people in college and and gravitated toward him was all the fabulous Tick Tock videos.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Which is a Chinese spy instrument.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. So drop us a Note [e-mail] Sometimes I will lead up to the biggest, most important, my favorite email. But then we are squeezed for time. So I'm going to jump right in to Aidan's note. Guys, I'm a college student at Sacramento State University. Actually met you, Jack, not long ago. He was absolutely devastated by Charlie Kirk's murder. On Wednesday he writes and I'm attending a vigil to remember him this afternoon hosted by the local Turning Point USA chapter. I've been following for a while, really admired his mission to sped truth, spread truth on campuses and also share his faith with everyone. And now he's gone. But his message is alive and well. I wanted to ask what can I as a college student do to continue his work? He has inspired me and many of my friends to take a stand for what we believe. And I want to know what you think the best way to do this is. And he says, I know students across the country feel the same way. And I pray that God uses even this horrific event to spread the truth in a greater way. Thank you for the note and thank you for the question. I'm going to give you a very brief answer, Jack, certainly, if you'd like to. And then I'm going to read another email that is the answer to that question. My very simple answer is the assassin's veto. A more horrifying version of the heckler's veto can be answered in two ways. Number one, continue and amplify what the victim advocated with all the energy you can muster. And if you get confused, do the opposite of what the assassin wants to happen. Don't let them achieve their goal. And their goal is obviously to silence a particular point of view. And then this from Star, which I thought was terrific. Charlie Kirk. Guys. As tragic and horrifying as his assassination is and our fear for democracy, what would Charlie do? How would Charlie want his murder to benefit our political discourse? Imagine how Jesus followers felt about the future of his ministry after witnessing his crucifixion. How could they have not thought that the wisdom Jesus was spreading was all but dead? I looked up the definition of martyr. Charlie certainly fits the definition of a political martyr. So what's the value of being a martyr for Charlie? He wanted to be remembered for the courage of his faith. For the rest of us, we needed to continue to Use the example he said, Share his videos, amplify the method he used. We likely won't find another Charlie anytime soon, but if we can get use his passing to get younger people to understand the value of his approach, then maybe the voices of thousands may be able to carry on his political ministry. As difficult as it may be to do, let's focus on the fear for our democracy and hammer more on the value of his methods. How did civil rights leaders respond after MLK's assassination? How did Jesus followers react to the crucifixion? They show us the path to use this tragedy to crawl out of this dark place we find ourselves in. If followers, regardless whether one agrees or disagrees with Charlie's messages, let us become disciples of Charlie's method. Civil dialogue over political issues.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we'll see how that plays out. I was listening to a podcast yesterday where there debates pointing out that so Charlie Kirk's biggest audience was young people and specifically young men. And are those young men going to, you know, gravitate towards somebody else who wants to have reasonable debate or are they gonna, are they gonna be pushed into the more flamethrower type young man podcasters, influencers out there say, see, they want you dead. They're out to get you. The only way we can do it is with fire. Is that the way it's going to go?

[Jack Armstrong]

The answer is yes, both of those. Got another great email on that very topic, which we'll get to a little bit later on. But yeah, some people absolutely take the path of anger and violence.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And what percentage, that's what we don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's undeniable.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no doubt. Okay, we got a lot, a lot more to come. If you missed a segment an hour, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Announcer]

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[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I heart podcast.