Dig Up His Bones & Re-Ban Him!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: Dig Up His Bones & Re-Ban Him! Release Date: May 14, 2025 Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Reinstatement of Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe

Timestamp: 00:32 – 03:09

The episode kicks off with Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delving into the surprising news that Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson, both of whom were banned from Major League Baseball for life, have been posthumously reinstated. They discuss the implications of revoking such long-standing bans, especially considering both figures have passed away.

Joe Getty remarks, "Both of them are playing in the big league in the sky right now. Jack. They're with God. But both have been reinstated. Unbanned." (01:06)

Jack contemplates the fairness of honoring Pete Rose, acknowledging his prowess as a hitter: "It's stupid to have a Hall of Fame that says this is where the best baseball players are, but not the guy who is actually the best at, like, the main thing of the game, hitting it." (02:10)

2. Ethical Implications and Personal Opinions

Timestamp: 03:09 – 05:00

The hosts debate the ethical considerations of reinstating Rose and Jackson. Jack argues that while Pete Rose was a flawed individual due to his gambling, his on-field achievements warrant recognition. Joe counters by emphasizing that personal misconduct can taint one's professional legacy.

Jack Armstrong states, "I'll adjust my day accordingly. Yes." (02:24)

Joe Getty adds, "Justice delayed is justice enough. I don't even know what lesson is here." (01:31)

They further explore the idea of how sports communities handle the personal failings of their stars, contrasting Rose's gambling issues with other athletes' more egregious actions.

3. The Future of Legends in Sports

Timestamp: 04:29 – 05:35

The conversation takes a humorous turn as Joe suggests a morbid yet amusing scenario where Pete Rose's bones are set up at a casino, interacting with fans via AI.

Joe Getty muses, "I say dig up his bones and reban him. I've rethought it. Pete Rose's bones. You're now rebound." (04:33)

Jack adds to the imagery: "Some sort of AI voice that could even say your name. Hi, it's Pete Rose. What is your name?" (05:07)

4. Jake Tapper’s Upcoming Book on Biden’s Cognitive Decline

Timestamp: 05:35 – 23:28

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Jake Tapper's soon-to-be-released book, "Original Sin," which alleges that President Joe Biden is experiencing cognitive decline—claims Tapper asserts were overlooked or covered up by mainstream media.

Jack Armstrong highlights the controversy: "Mark Halperin did a episode of a show last night where he took apart Jake Tapper. In this book that's coming out good." (12:09)

The hosts critique Tapper’s assertions, questioning the credibility and timing of his revelations, especially since many listeners feel that Biden's cognitive issues are evident without needing Tapper's confirmation.

Joe Getty contends, "It's amazing. Mailbag." (23:28)

They express skepticism regarding the media's role in either promoting or dismissing Tapper's claims, suggesting a broader distrust in journalistic integrity.

Jack Armstrong asserts, "This is so crazy... we cannot function as a society if this is the level of credibility we have with our media." (27:30)

5. Current News Highlights

Timestamp: 13:08 – 18:44

The hosts review a variety of current news stories, ranging from Trump’s diplomatic moves in the Middle East to technological advancements in China.

• Trump’s Visit to Qatar: They discuss the use of futuristic Cyber Trucks for Trump's motorcade, speculating on its symbolic significance and the actual focus of his trip.

  Jack Armstrong questions the media focus: "The point was not talk about Israel." (15:29)

• China’s AI-Powered Robots: Highlighting a Reuters piece, they ponder the future implications of humanoid robots in manufacturing.

  Joe Getty warns, "They're not gonna take your eye out. They're gonna take your economy out, you fool." (15:50)

• Saudi Arabia’s Mobile McDonald's: They find humor in Saudi Arabia’s creation of a mobile McDonald's for Trump’s visit, noting cultural adaptations.

  Jack Armstrong remarks, "That is pretty funny." (16:08)

• AI and Labor Future: They discuss a segment by JT Livermore on AI's potential to revolutionize labor markets, forecasting a dystopian future where human labor becomes obsolete.

  Joe Getty summarizes, "We will become a planet of human volunteers and hobbyists because none of our actual value add to the production process will have any value." (36:19)

6. Listener Mailbag

Timestamp: 31:27 – 35:06

The hosts read and react to listener submissions, including opinions on Donald Trump's persona and a humorous anecdote about a poorly executed tattoo.

• Trump as a Carnival Barker: A listener likens Trump to a 'carnival barker,' emphasizing his salesmanship style.

  Jack Armstrong responds, "What kind of joke is this? And it is a joke." (30:49)

• Tattoo Tale: A listener recounts witnessing a botched tattoo under a cashier’s tongue, providing comic relief.

  Joe Getty chuckles, "He got a smiley face under his tongue?" (34:03)

7. Final Thoughts on AI and Society

Timestamp: 35:06 – End

The episode concludes with a discussion on the transformative impact of AI and robotics on global productivity and societal structures. The hosts express concern over a future where human contributions are devalued, leading to widespread unemployment and societal shifts.

Jack Armstrong echoes, "No doubt about it. We got a lot today." (36:19)

Joe Getty reinforces the urgency, emphasizing the need to address these technological advancements proactively.

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Notable Quotes:

• "It's stupid to have a Hall of Fame that says this is where the best baseball players are, but not the guy who is actually the best at, like, the main thing of the game, hitting it." – Jack Armstrong (02:10)

• "I say dig up his bones and reban him. I've rethought it. Pete Rose's bones. You're now rebound." – Joe Getty (04:33)

• "This is so crazy... we cannot function as a society if this is the level of credibility we have with our media." – Jack Armstrong (27:30)

• "They're not gonna take your eye out. They're gonna take your economy out, you fool." – Joe Getty (15:50)

• "We will become a planet of human volunteers and hobbyists because none of our actual value add to the production process will have any value." – Joe Getty (36:19)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty navigate through a mix of sports controversies, media critiques, political scandals, and technological forecasts. With sharp commentary and engaging banter, they provide listeners with a comprehensive analysis of current events, all while maintaining their signature humor and critical insight.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

You're listening to an iHeart podcast.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Getting Armstrong and getting. With special guest today, the Menendez brothers.

[Joe Getty]

Guys, hi, I'm Kyle. I'm Eric.

[Jack Armstrong]

That could be soon. More on that later.

[Joe Getty]

Live from Studio C C, a dimly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lit room deeper than the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. Today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of those being liberated, Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe. Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those are baseball players.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Both of them are playing in the big league in the sky right now. Jack. They're with God. But both have been reinstated. Unbanned. Well, they're banned for life, I guess. Now they're dead and they're unbanned.

[Jack Armstrong]

A couple old dead guys might have been reinstated in baseball. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Including probably the greatest hitter of all time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll adjust my day accordingly.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

As quickly as I can.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Justice delayed is justice enough. I don't. I don't even know what lesson is here.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got to be our age or older to, like, have really watched Pete Rose in his prime. So I don't know how many.

[Joe Getty]

How much gotta be Joe Biden's age or older to have watched old Shoeless Joe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

He swapped the horse hide around the yard. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there you go with that.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then, special guest, would you rather.

[Joe Getty]

Have Pete Rose show up outside your house at night or the Menendez brothers.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was always a Pete Rose should be in the hall of Fame guy. Always. Yeah, always.

[Joe Getty]

Always have a little plaque explaining the gambling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. It's ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

It's the best hitter ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's stupid to have a Hall of Fame that says this is where the best baseball players are, but not the guy who is actually the best at, like, the main thing of the game, hitting it. So hitting the ball. So. But we don't have him in here because of complicated. That's just dumb.

[Joe Getty]

I understand the reasoning. I just. I don't end up at the same place.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I do think it's different than the. Like, if you don't have Barry Bonds in the hall of Fame because then his records were affected by what he did, but Pete Rose's records were not affected by what he did.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good point. Yeah. The induction ceremony would have been a little weird, you know, having been banned for life for gambling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Anyway, poor guy. I wish Pete would have gotten that before he died.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You know, he was. He was an incredibly flawed human being. He had a screw loose. He's like a lot of the best athletes of all time in their sports. They're only half certain.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was a gambler. He was not a pedophile. He wasn't a wife beater. I mean, we put up with so much in sports.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, no, no, no. See, this is where your non sportsy status is showing itself. Even though you're a sports fan, you can't gamble on your sport. That. That would ruin it for all time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I completely get that. I 100% get that.

[Joe Getty]

But.

[Jack Armstrong]

But having the hatred for him, like, I mean, we put up with so much with athletes in sports that do horrible, horrible things. I'll go out to eat with a gambler any night. I will not go out to eat with the guy who beats up his girlfriends.

[Joe Getty]

Now you're missing the point completely. You can. You can have half the league beat up their girlfriend and it would be horrifying, but it wouldn't affect the games.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you're missing my point completely. You said it'd be an uncomfortable hall of Fame ceremony. I think everybody would have stood and chee. Because they liked the guy and he was a great hitter and you shouldn't gamble. You got to be kicked out of the sport for that. I get it. But in terms of, like, it'd be uncomfortable to be around him. No way. Not uncomfortable at all.

[Joe Getty]

I give up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Write your emails now. Somebody who cheats in the sport, that affects the actual playing, like Barry Bonds did. What? What the heck is that? You can't have him in the hall of it. Is he in the.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's why the gambling is so bad, because that inevitably leads to that. It is a fatal illness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, clearly I won because he is now in the hall of Fame and been reinstated in baseball.

[Joe Getty]

I say dig up his bones and reban him. I've rethought it. Pete Rose's bones. You're now rebound.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, man.

[Joe Getty]

For all of eternity.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then somebody. And then somebody would set up his bones at a card table at a casino and have his bones signing baseballs. 25 a shot.

[Joe Getty]

Right? He could pose with the bones. 20 bucks a shot. Exactly. Some sort of AI voice. Exactly. The line moving. Keep the line moving.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. You have an AI voice that could even say your name. Hi, it's Pete Rose. What is your name? Nice to meet you.

[Joe Getty]

Jack, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Thanks for supporting me in my AI.

[Joe Getty]

Robot signs the pick and you move on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Yeah. That might be actually happening. Soon, you know, I've been to the sphere where they got that robot out there that interviews you and talks to you and everything like that, and it's creepy. It asks your name and starts having a discussion with you and everything. Like, do that with celebrities. But you got the video of them, like a hologram of them or whatever, and they're, they're talking to you and have a conversation. People would do that, pose for pictures and whatnot.

[Joe Getty]

If it's realistic. Yeah, you're having a laugh with your old buddy, you know, Tom Cruise, whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, pathetic.

[Joe Getty]

But yes, people would do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, somehow I missed this story yesterday and I had to look it up to make sure it was true. David Ignatius of the Washington Post, the big foreign policy correspondent, said yesterday on msnbc, of course, this got no coverage because they hated it so much. Trump is definitely in the discussion for Nobel Peace Prize with what he's doing in the Middle east right now with, to the horror of the MSNBC crowd, apparently.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow. Well, they're dopes. Yeah. And interestingly enough, I've been pawing through email to get Mailbag ready and just the show in general, and there are a couple of really interesting theaters, theories, kind of frameworks that folks suggested to use to look at the frenetic and somewhat chaotic activity of Trump too. So far, some very critical, some very positive. And I think it's useful and interesting because the way he conducts, you know, the, the duties of the office are very, very different, is very, very different than, than what we've seen before. And, and some of it is off putting. But then you come around and you see, ah, now I see what he's doing. Some of it might just be off putting, but we will discuss.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he gave a speech yesterday, like 45 minutes long, and I read one segment of it and thought, wow, how have I already heard this today? Because he gave the speech in the morning and I hadn't heard much about the speech throughout the day. Then I was reading my favorite political newsletter from Mark Halpern today saying, this is one of the most extraordinary foreign policy speeches any president has given in a half a century. And it got zero news coverage. So we'll, we'll read a little bit from that later. I mean, it was a complete redoing of U.S. foreign policy in the way that we look at the world and very critical at previous administrations, particularly Republican administrations. So you'd think from that standpoint it would get a lot of coverage. But I don't think the media takes Trump seriously at all with any of his policy stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Both the positive stuff and the negative stuff are so personality based, you forget he's conducting the duties of the President of the United States and is going.

[Jack Armstrong]

To be present for another three and a half years.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah. You know, I heard a couple of specifics from the speech that were interesting, but not what you're referring to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's. It's some pretty big stuff and I think a lot of you will agree with it on the whole, you know, we went around the world starting wars and causing trouble. It's pretty damned interesting. So we'll get to that stuff a little bit later. We should start the show officially now. Now that Pete Rose is back in baseball. I just, I don't know, I feel lighter somehow. I feel like.

[Joe Getty]

Till I get the digger to the cemetery is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is a Wednesday, May 14, the year 2025. Armstrong. And getting me approved of this program.

[Joe Getty]

All right, let's dig in. Get ready for the first pitch. Precisely. According to FCC rules and regulations, the show starts at mark.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't see much sense in putting me on the ballot after I die. Most of the people who rooted for me my whole career would love to see me in the hall of Fame as a living player, not as someone is 10ft under.

[Joe Getty]

Do the great whacker of baseballs there pre mortem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. He also struck me as one of those guys that never really had anything else after sports that mattered a whole lot to him. Which would be a kind of a sad way to go through life because your heyday ended at 40, which is not the best thing for a 80 year old.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. There are plenty of human beings, many of them in sports, who became what they were, like the best ever or in that top, top, top, top tier because they were so obsessed and so unhealthy in a way that they dedicated everything they had to it and couldn't leave it behind. It's bittersweet.

[Jack Armstrong]

So was he a gambling addict? Is that what his thing was? How did he end up.

[Joe Getty]

He was a competition addict, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

How did he end up betting on baseball? Was it just. Did he finally get to the point that the only way it could be exciting enough is if his own team was involved in a bet? I wonder.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've just read about gambling addicts mostly through Norm MacDonald, the comedian who has lost everything he had three times as a gambling addict. That it's, it's all about the Risk. It's not even the winning. It's the risk. And the danger is what. And I wonder if Pete Rose just. It got to the point where the only way it could have any juices if I was so close to what the. You know, just the ultimate wrong thing to do. Because it's.

[Joe Getty]

It's.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's. It's some sort of negative energy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, getting it. Getting to the edge of losing everything you have. It's some sort of, like, negative. You know, if you believe in good and evil, evil pole on you. Because there's no reason. No, I don't. I do not get a charge out of having everything I've got that I've built on the edge of losing it today. That would not make me excited in a good way.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I. I'm looking at the other side of the coin. It's the ultimate adrenaline rush. It's do or die. He. He was addicted to the feeling of do or die. Whether it was in the batter's box or gambling. That was the only thing that could get his attention, I think, was the ultimate challenge.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's got to be horrible. I've known people like that, that. I mean, they've got that pull to just lay it out there all the time, the do or die thing. And the problem is, you know, if you're. You have to lose sometimes for it to be real. I mean, it's got to be the possibility that it can go the other direction.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. A good friend who, in dealing with some addiction problems, came to realize that his comfort zone was conflict and that he was causing conflict in his life out of, like, habit and upbringing and that sort of thing. And Pete's. I think his comfort zone is. It's Owen 2 with the bases jammed, and he's in the batter's box.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody's looking at you. It's all on you. It's all on you. And he needed that after he quit playing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I suspect so. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

How does. So we got Katie's headlines. We got Mailbag later. Mark Halperin and Jake Tapper are never going to be friends after yesterday. Mark Halpern did a episode of a show last night where he took apart Jake Tapper. In this book that's coming out good.

[Joe Getty]

Because it's a weasel and a db And I used to respect him and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is horrified that the mainstream media continues to pretend that they didn't know Joe Biden's brain didn't work. And it's pretty damned interesting. I watched. I watched a lot of it last night. And we'll get to that later, too. Our text line is 415295KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope I'm not stealing a headline here. I just saw this. Katie Trump given cyber truck motorcade through Qatar after he got his fighter jet escort for the plane. Wonder why? Using cyber trucks for the motorcade in Qatar. No, no. Is that a nod to Elon or something?

[Joe Getty]

It's kind of got a futuristic vibe that fits the new Middle east where they're building everything as fast as they can. Everything looks like a spaceport from the movies.

[Jack Armstrong]

They have them all wrapped in bright red. That looks pretty cool.

[Joe Getty]

My favorite headline of the day, hog makes Democrats squeal. Activist David Hogg really, really making some waves in DNC circles. I hate to see that. All sorts.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's an annoying, annoying kid.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, is he.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lord, he's one of the most annoying human beings to come on the scene in a very long time. And he gets the COVID of, you know, he was a kid at a mass shooting, but he's still an annoying human being.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Amen to that. All right, lot to talk about. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Kat Green.

[C]

Katie, starting with abc Cassie Ventura to return to witness stand today.

[Joe Getty]

Looking forward to a Diddy trial update a little bit later on. Katie is, you know, testimony unfolds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we know if it's more for the, I don't know how trials work. Is it more for the prosecution or when does she get cross examined and they try to make her look like a gold digging crazy woman?

[Joe Getty]

When the prosecution's done? Whenever that is. Days. I don't know. I haven't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, but that, how'd you like to have to take that on with the video out there and she's eight months pregnant. You're going to try to tear her apart in front of the jury. Good luck with that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Tread carefully, young attorney, USA Today.

[C]

Israel intensifies Gaza bombardment as Trump visits the region.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, got a great example of one of those. The mainstream media talking about Israel, Israel's attempted strike on a Hamas later yesterday, but they bombed a hospital. Another one of those stories.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, for goodness sakes, please. There are a couple of really notable Israel saying, wait, what moments during this Middle Eastern trip and the forgiving the sanctions on Syria and embracing shaking hands with the new Islamist former al Qaeda guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Even I even heard some, some speculation that the whole taking the plane from the Qataris is the shiny object to talk About. So you're not talking about the fact that Trump's really ignoring Israel on this trip.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think the plane thing is going to happen, by the way. More on that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if it's a distraction. That wasn't the point. The point was not talk about Israel.

[C]

From Reuters, China's AI powered humanoid robots to transform manufacturing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It doesn't start swinging its arms and take your eyes out.

[C]

No, but they're talking about a factory full of humanoid robots folding T shirts and making sandwiches, swinging their arms around like this, Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Right in the face.

[Jack Armstrong]

Take your eye out.

[Joe Getty]

They're not gonna take your eye out. They're gonna take your economy out, you fool.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wake up.

[C]

From Newsweek. Saudi Arabia rolls out custom mobile McDonald's for Trump visit.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty funny.

[C]

This was hilarious. It was just like a trailer McDonald's on the back of a semi just in case he wanted a Big Mac.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is pretty funny.

[Joe Getty]

So they got no McD's there in Saudi.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was it Camel?

[C]

Oh, geez.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I know that they do have a McDonald's in Saudi Arabia because my brother said when he stood in line at the McDonald's, there was a line for the men and a line for the women. You couldn't separate lines at the McDonald's.

[C]

This is a BYO Mickey D situation.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[C]

From the Hill. Americans embracing road trips for upcoming Memorial Day weekend citing flight uncertainty.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Even when the flights go well, it's a pain lately. Yeah.

[C]

From the Wall Street Journal. Women are drinking more and doctors are worried.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I was going to talk about that later on. The, the, the numbers are actually quite surprising, quite shocking.

[C]

Yeah. Thanks a lot, men.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're the reason we're driving women to drink and surprise me.

[Joe Getty]

I certainly have.

[C]

And finally, the Babylon Be. Jake Tapper uncovers startling evidence that Biden's decline was covered up by Jake Tapper.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this, this is an interesting development intra media and then for between the media and the public, we'll talk more about later.

[Joe Getty]

It's about time.

[Jack Armstrong]

The book comes out next week. His, his promotion tour could be pretty rough.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

So next week a book comes out that's going to get a ton of attention. It's already getting a lot of pre attention. It's called Original Sin. It's by Jake Tapper, the biggest star on cnn. And that's in finger quotes because CNN has such low ratings. Being the biggest star on CNN is not exactly that a big deal. They brought Jake Tapper over to try to, you know, get the network More competitive. They thought bringing him over would be a big get.

[Joe Getty]

And he is a big name. And a respected journalist.

[Jack Armstrong]

And a respected journalist.

[Joe Getty]

Partisan hack, is it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Ironically.

[Jack Armstrong]

And his book comes out next week. It's Jake Tapper. And Alex Thompson, who was with Politico, is now with Axios or the other way around. Doesn't make any difference. And couple of things on that. He's going to be doing a big promotional tour on this. I'm sure we could get him on the air. I'm tempted to want him to get him on the air and then have a Not like. What's that? We, like, lay in wait ambush. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Not like that's what I was planning on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not like an ambush, but more of a. Because I, I don't know why. I've always liked Jake Tapper. I used to. He built a lot of credibility with me over many, many years when he used to be on Imus's show and everything like that. But this one confuses me. And so I think there's something. I think there's something going on that's more than just you're a lib hack trying to get your guy elected. I think, I think there's some sort of more complicated. We could all, we can all be misled by our, our, you know, our wishes, being the father of our thoughts or something that.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know, the culture that surrounds us.

[Jack Armstrong]

The culture that surrounds us, who we hang out with or something like that. Where he got Jake Tapper, if you believe him, actually didn't see the cognitive decline of Joe Biden and really nobody else did either because the White House did such a good job of covering.

[Joe Getty]

It up, which is obviously laughable if you're not picking up on the sarcasm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. So there's been a fair amount of mockery of that whole thing leading up to the book coming up coming out next week. And I think the publisher is panicking, so they yesterday or over the weekend put out a sizzle reel to promote the book. Maybe we'll play that later also. And it's got a whole bunch of clips. Jake has been playing this on his show. A whole bunch of clips of Jake Tapper showing how hard he was on the Biden administration and how he did ask the tough questions. And everybody's misremembering his role in this. And it's got edit after edit after edit of Jake Tapper saying what about two thirds of voters who don't believe the president could serve another term or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah. Mark Halperin, who is my favorite political journalist, was incensed by that sizzle reel that could got put out over the weekend. And he and his team yesterday took it upon themselves. And I don't know how much time this took. They went back through every single clip and did a longer version of it in context to show how incredibly softly Jake, if at all Jake Tapper was pushing back in any of these situations.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. And went one by one editing fest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's like a half hour rebuttal to that. In which Mark Halperin's angle is not to boost Trump. His concern is, as I think a legitimate, honest journalist. His concern is he says Trump's doing all kinds of things right now that I think should be scrutinized heavily by the media. But the media has no heft anymore because nobody believes them because they lied about all that stuff under Biden. So they couldn't, they didn't hold Biden accountable and now they, we can't hold Trump accountable and we don't have a press that can hold any president accountable anymore. And that is a problem.

[Joe Getty]

And let's not forget that the whole just ludicrous Biden is sharp thing followed directly on the heels of the Russian collusion hoax. And so the impression formed in the center and right. That the press would print anything leaked to them by Adam Schiff, no matter how many times Schiff clearly lied. And so they were utterly undependable as arbiters of truth was then just completely reinforced by the Biden stuff. I mean, you know, we're, we're, we're at the therapist. Cuz you had an affair. And then I, I go out and realize you're having sex with the therapist while I'm in the bathroom. I mean, we're done here.

[Jack Armstrong]

So like I said earlier, I don't think Mark Halpern and Jake Tapper are ever going to be friends after this. I mean. Cause it was a pretty brutal takedown of all of Jake Tapper's soft pushbacks. But this is from yesterday. Jake Tapper's already started making the rounds. Media talking about the book and how he tried to hold the Biden White House accountable, but they were just too good at lying and that sort of thing. This is from Mark Halperin's show last night. We'll just play a little bit of it.

[D]

So Jake Tapper, his book coming out in a week. Here he is this morning on cnn creating a whole new set of realities. Watch this.

[Jack Armstrong]

You have an entire White House press corps though, following him around.

[E]

And I'm just curious as to whether.

[C]

Or not this kind of trying to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hide what was happening with the president at the time had an impact on the press corps.

[E]

Like, why didn't we hear some of.

[Jack Armstrong]

These details from what they actually saw.

[E]

And were dealing with, trying to get information? Well, Alex Thompson and I were on the case, as were lots of other reporters trying to figure out what was going on behind the scenes. But the bottom line is the White House was lying not only to the press, not only to the public, but they were lying to members of their own cabinet, they were lying to White House staffers, they were lying to Democratic members of Congress, to donors about how bad things had gotten. And in fact, Alex and I started writing this book after the election of 2024, and we spoke with more than 200 people, most of whom, almost all of whom were Democrats and almost all of whom wouldn't be honest with us or wouldn't be candid with us until after the election. And then after the election, we found out all of these things. And that when you looked at what was going on with President Biden at the time, it probably doesn't surprise you the extent to which he was deteriorating. But now we have anecdotes and facts about what was really going on behind the scenes with details that Democrats wouldn't share with us until after election day.

[D]

All right, again, amazing. True. Here's something true that he said that Jake Tapper said on CNN this morning, true that there was a cover up, that senior Biden officials worked very hard to cover up as much as they could his decline, including amongst other people in the government and in the campaign. That's true. Here's two things that are not true, okay? And this is where the credibility is just so important that people be honest. I shouldn't be the only one in the media being honest about this. It's bizarre. Okay? One thing that's not true is that you needed that the COVID up was so good that no one could see this, that we couldn't possibly have gotten to the bottom of this during the election. Again, it makes me mental. It was clear.

[Jack Armstrong]

Halperin does like 45 minutes on this clip by clip. It makes me mental. How can you possibly claim this? And that's why I'd like to have Jake on and ask him that. Seriously, what do you think's going on? You think it's just pure hackery? I think it's some, like, more complicated human emotion thing or something, which should scare all of us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I could believe pure hackery. I mean, because they get away with. I mean, if you're broadcasting to or part of a ideological media bubble, you get away with saying ridiculous things and nobody ever challenges you on them. So I could picture getting bolder and bolder in your hackery. Yes. At the same time. Well, I would have loved to have cross examined him after that question because again, the great lie of it, and this is getting to your question, the great ridiculous lie of it. And don't BS a BSer. I could see his BS working. Well, he talked to 200 people who were privy to behind the scenes, blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would only be honest after the election.

[Joe Getty]

Jake, the word literally is overused these days, but literally everyone saw it. Guess how many people I talked to who are behind the scenes in the White House.

[Jack Armstrong]

0. 0.

[Joe Getty]

And I knew it as clearly as I know my own name. Jake, your inability to divine what was obvious to the rest of America. Now that's an interesting story, right? Biden's old and decrepit. Yeah, we know.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. It is stunning. I'm hoping, and Mark Halpern is clearly hoping, that Jake Tapper doesn't get away with doing a kind of routine book tour where he does, you know, 60 minutes in every channel and every radio show and every newspaper outlet. And they all talk about. I'm looking at the New York Times, their, Their promotion that came out over the weekend, or their review of the book, a damning portrait of an enfeebled Biden protected by his inner circle. And act like it's not insane.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That the authors are trying to get away with. Here's what we've uncovered. Everybody knew it. Everybody was talking about it. But, you know, this is so crazy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and it's like some sort of weird second layer of the emperor having new clothes. Because now you have the New York Times and other enablers acting as if Tapper's book is actually an amazing set of revelations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Surely this isn't gonna work. I mean, I don't care if you are a progressive or a conservative. We cannot function as a society if this is the level of credibility we have with our media. I mean, that's not true. Your question is the right question. Okay, Jake, it doesn't matter what you thought. Why do you think 80% of Americans figured out the President wasn't capable of being president before you and your fellow journalists did?

[Joe Getty]

Having spoken to no inside.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. With no inside information, all we've got is what we watch on tv.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't that Interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Carefully, carefully. Hidden president no less. Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Another point.

[Joe Getty]

It was obvious to everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I just wonder if it's only gonna be in like right wing circles and Mark Halperin where there's a lot of the. Taking a look at Jake Tapper's past coverage of Biden's decline as this book comes out. He shouldn't be able to get away with this. He shouldn't get away with this even among the mainstream or we're doomed. I mean the ship has so sailed, it's over the horizon.

[Joe Getty]

Oh right, but they're not gonna accuse him of the very sin they committed with equal egregiousness. In fact I could argue that you know CNN for, you know if ask somebody not 40 plus about CNN they're being like I've heard of it. I think it may be on an airports its significance is is overstated these days. Having said that, the New York Times being 100% complicit, they're a far more significant media presence on earth than CNN is. So no, they're not gonna say hey Jake, everybody knew this. What kind of joke is this? And it is a joke.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well what I'd like to see is like when they do, you know, he'll probably do interviews in front of crowds where the crowd is just like oh you gotta be kidding. Oh come on. I would like to see that sort of reaction because it's that level of ridiculous like Halpert said it makes me mental thinking about it. You're not gonna actually pretend this, are you? Are you gonna get paid millions of dollars to go around now and act like you uncovered something that 8 out of 10Americans figured out on their own without your sources?

[Joe Getty]

Here's one of the go to phrases. Now we have anecdotes and facts about what was really going on behind the scenes with details that Democrats wouldn't share with us until after election day.

[Jack Armstrong]

The first nugget I hear that's even slightly surprising, I'll let you know. I haven't heard one yet that's even slightly surprising.

[Joe Getty]

Way to be a punchline, Jake.

[Jack Armstrong]

And everybody else that played along with it. It's amazing. Mailbag.

[Joe Getty]

Watch the news.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good idea. Mailbag on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Next, Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this is well put. This texture. Gaslighting once is annoying and frustrating. Gaslighting about the gaslighting is unforgivable. Yeah, you're gaslighting about the gaslighting.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's again, Jake Tapper and his book are mostly a punchline and I think that is appropriate and I love it. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. This all time favorite from Dwight D. Eisenhower.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hmm. Kansan.

[Joe Getty]

Pardon me?

[Jack Armstrong]

Kansan. We Kansans are proud of Dwight Eisenauer.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Abilene, Kansas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

If you want total security, go to prison there you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking is freedom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good one.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. As the budget negotiations get closer and closer to the Republicans becoming Democrats and the welfare state growing and growing and growing and no meaningful spending cuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got some interesting stuff on that coming up.

[Joe Getty]

Kind of takes the fun out of the next election. Here's your mailbag. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com another J from San Jose says, I've long thought of Trump as a carnival barker. Mr. Hype. We all know the type. Watching him in an interview today on his plane, it dawned on me that this tariff thing set up a door to door campaign with each country to sell them American stuff, then incentivize them to invest in America. Then we'll keep buying plenty of stuff from them. He's America's salesman. He'll get you to buy something from the catalog. More analysis on that coming up from various smart people. The worst place for a tattoo ever. Really charming tale. Todd in San Diego.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. I have some guesses.

[Joe Getty]

He was visiting Charlotte on business, went to a burrito place. Fella behind the counter was a big pasty dude with a close haircut who gave off an escaped mental patient vibe. After I ordered, I noticed one side of his neck. A tattoo of religious icon common in Southern California Mexican culture complimented him. Anyway, I've got to summarize this. He at one point he opened his mouth, lifted his tongue and showed on the other underside of his tongue a simple but recognizable smiley face in blue ink, which he did himself.

[Jack Armstrong]

He got a smiley face under his tongue?

[Joe Getty]

That's correct. Did it myself, he said, then continued. That's not the worst one though. Once I took some Viagra. Oh dear God no. I thought, and I'm trying to decide how much of this to read.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fireman's helmet.

[Joe Getty]

He tried to tattoo 100% Irish beef on his unit. Oh man, this is great. This is my favorite part time San Diego. I nodded. I nodded slightly in a way that I hope would commun that I knew what his weighing was, but not that I wanted to know anything more about this. But it hurts so bad, he went on. I only got to 100% Irish before I had to stop. Mercifully, my burrito arrived soon after. I wonder if he ever completed his masterpiece.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tattooing yourself under your tongue. I'm trying to figure out how you would. How would you see? You'd have to have a series of mirrors that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm terrible at that too. Looking at myself in a mirror and realizing, okay, I need to move the clipper a little closer to my ear and then I move it away. I'm helpless. Absolutely helpless. Let's see, we don't have a lot of time, do we? How about this great interesting thought from JT and Livermore about AI and he takes into consideration that in the past, labor saving just meant we were more productive and kept working the same amount because we had the ability to become more wealthy. But he says many human jobs can be replaced by specialized machines, but many can't yet. But as soon as human form robots are smart enough and cheaper than human workers, it will absolutely be a sea change to our whole way of life. An additional wrinkle that also comes into play when robots become cheap. Worldwide productivity is no longer gated by population. Imagine what a company could do if robot labor were, say, half the price of human labor. Whole new levels of production become profitable that weren't profitable using human labor. Da da da. And it'll get cheaper and cheaper and more and more effective like big screen TVs. That is when the true dystopia arrives. We will become a planet of human volunteers and hobbyists because none of our actual value add to the production process will have any value.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you're right. You combine AI with the robot technology we see on all the videos, and that will be a sea change for the planet. No doubt about it. We got a lot today. If you miss a segment, gets podcast.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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