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broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Not Finding this anywhere Fox had a headline up on the the TV said Marco Rubio says it could take days for the details to shake out on this deal. Not finding that anywhere else, but keeping an eye on the There he is up on the television right now, keeping our eye on this supposed end of the war deal that we've struck with Iran. The details are not known yet and Iran says we didn't agree with that, so I'm not exactly sure what's happening. Rubio will take a couple of days to settle any disagreements on the deal. You mean disagreements like whether or not the strait opens or whether or not they pursue nuclear weapons? Those are some pretty big disagreements.
Joe Getty
Whether Israel can keep fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon. Just I haven't seen anything that even looks like an agreement. I mean, the one thing that had to happen was the Strait of Hormuz being open. Or do you say Straits? But Iran was recently mining it and we attacked their mine land ships. So you're gonna waste your time, energy, men and boats mining something that you're about to open? It's bizarre. I can't figure it out.
Jack Armstrong
More on that later.
Joe Getty
So there was a guy by the name of Sidney Hook. He was a philosopher at New York University who was a Marxist and turned into through his life a harsh, harsh critic of communism when he realized how it actually worked. And one thing he wrote that I thought was so persuasive and smart, I posted it in the studio and he wrote the following I was guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and socialism by its hopes and aspirations, capitalism by its works, and socialism by its literature. To this day, this error and its disastrous consequences are observable in the judgment and behavior of some impassioned individuals, mostly young. The folks at Free Press went on the streets of New York to talk to Mamdani voters, accompanied by a Venezuelan who lived under the dream of socialism and is talking to the youngsters. Oh, that's right. The warm embrace of collectivism. And it went something like this.
Interviewer
Did you vote for Zoran Mumdani?
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Of course.
Interviewer
Yeah. Can't just for him. Beijing people support him. Are you worried that he is a socialist?
Jack Armstrong
Not really.
Joe Getty
I think socialism is actually really good for society.
Interviewer
Professor at nyu, I'm assuming.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Interviewer
Are you familiar with how socialism worked out in other countries historically? Just because it didn't work out so well in other parts of the world doesn't mean it won't work out well for New York. I actually have a friend of mine here who fled Venezuela. He is a living product of socialism not working out in other places.
Venezuelan Immigrant
Came from Venezuela nine years ago. It's the only country that was ever destroyed by socialism.
Interviewer
Democrats, Venezuela, y' all got a lot of other problems to do it.
Venezuelan Immigrant
The problems were caused by the socialist policy. My family went from making 2, $3,000 a month 20 years ago to $100 a month in 2016. That was because the government gave everything you can imagine for free. We went from being a normal middle class family with a car and then no electricity, no water.
Joe Getty
It's a little hard to follow.
Jack Armstrong
I remember I was talking to a woman from Mongolia. She grew up under Soviet rule. Mongolia was part of the Soviet Union. She was a little kid when it changed. But it got worse for them because they were part of the elite, which is the way it works in socialism. Her family was part of the elite, so they had a great life. And then when social when USSR fell apart, they had to, you know, try to figure out a way to make a go of it. Then you got people who aren't part of the elite who it's miserable for. That's the way socialism always turns out.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Let's roll on for at least one more segment.
Interviewer
What specific socialist policies?
Venezuelan Immigrant
The government took over people's businesses, farms, grocery stores, factories. Do you support the proposal of government groc stores?
Jack Armstrong
Of course I do.
Venezuelan Immigrant
There was very little supply of chicken toilet paper. It was a line for blocks and blocks for a grocery store.
Jack Armstrong
It's all about money, my friend. Corruption. Wait.
Venezuelan Immigrant
Why do you think the grocery store sells you food? For charity or for money?
Joe Getty
For money.
Jack Armstrong
That's not a bad thing.
Interviewer
What happened in Venezuela isn't going to happen. The policy is more focused on helping people out.
Venezuelan Immigrant
Every politician would promise to help the people. Socialism is the government owns and controls the means of production. That is the companies, the businesses. Like Mamdani says, the government will own the grocery store. Nine million of us escape our country. It's the largest refugee crisis in the.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Interviewer
There is a lot of opportunities to use the wealth of New York to help everyone else. You know, they have tried that in the Soviet Union. From where my parents and my grandparents are, from all their member grocery stores is empty shelves.
Venezuelan Immigrant
Himself said that his goal is to abolish property.
News Reporter
All of it.
Interviewer
He's going to take everything.
Venezuelan Immigrant
You want to live in a public house?
Interviewer
No.
Jack Armstrong
Why do our young people have so much anxiety? Is it because all of their media is edited like that? That that clip makes me want to run in front of traffic.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I know.
Jack Armstrong
I can't even hardly pay attention to it because it's so closely edited with the music in the background.
Joe Getty
Boom. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Be really interesting if it was slower and didn't have the music.
Joe Getty
Yeah. If you could actually understand ideas being expressed. Yeah. That is enough to make you insane. It is extremely difficult to bring reality to the ears of a young person who's convinced by principle and ideas. It wouldn't happen here. No, it's happened like that every time. No, but this is more focused on helping people. But it's corruption. The elite control all the money and everything and they're corrupt. No, that's not what we're going to do here. Short of slapping them or denying them the vote, I'm not sure what to do. Slapping is legal, so let's say you can't vote until either you're 28.
Jack Armstrong
So you're thinking an open handed hard slap on the face, they would all sudden thank you for that. You're right. Socialism is a stupid idea.
Joe Getty
No, but it would make me feel better.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, it's for you.
Joe Getty
Solve my problem.
Jack Armstrong
Slapping is for you.
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Joe Getty
If you gave them a nice good slap and every time they said it, at least they would stop saying it. I don't want to get slapped again. You can't have somebody that stupid and naive vote. Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'm reminded I'm looking up at the television. Trump's got his physical today. That's gonna be the big story.
Joe Getty
What's he hiding? Why the swollen ankles? Why the mysterious bruising?
Jack Armstrong
It'll be the big story later today and tomorrow because probably in Trump fashion, someone's gonna come out and say he's healthier than a 22 year old professional athlete. Something like that.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Always have to overdo it.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, I'm. I'm what, 25% younger than Trump and it was easy. He had a medical problem, he went to see the doctor. Yeah, it's always something once you Hit a certain age, it's fine.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of slapping people, this popped into my head. I was talking to somebody over the weekend who was a family member, was going to move to Texas. I think maybe they did move to Texas. Yeah. Move to Texas. But they were surprised when they got there, having their kids in the school district that they. There was a form to sign to allow corporal punishment in the school. I don't think they had films when I was a kid because they had corporal punishment, and that'd be hitting you with a stick. Swatting, they called it in school. Or spanking, I guess they did in schools when you were young. Paddling. Yes. They paddled kids when I was still in school. And I'm pretty sure there was no paperwork involved. They just did it and the parents were fine with it. But apparently in current times, you have to have a. Parents have to sign off on it. Yes. Yes, you can paddle, Jimmy. That's funny. I'm okay with it. I don't know if I'd want to sign a form that allows it. I don't know why those things don't fit together. But something weird about that. And then you got the whole problem of. In the modern school district in which I don't trust their judgment much at all.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
To give them that power, I would
Joe Getty
want to know a great deal about the person making the judgment about when it's necessary.
Jack Armstrong
My memory of school, I never got paddled. I was a good kid. My memory is that every kid that got paddled, that I remember getting paddled, had it coming. They were the kind of kids that needed paddled.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
That's my memory of paddling. Did you have that? I was making the decision. You grew up in California, Michael. Was there paddling in California? Probably not.
Joe Getty
No. Not. At least not when I went to school.
Jack Armstrong
It already passed. Yeah.
Joe Getty
That's why there's junkies on the street paddling. Clearly. Do the math.
Jack Armstrong
We didn't have our eighth grade English teacher, Mrs. Rutledge, I assume she's gone now. Gladys. I'm reminiscing. Gladys.
Joe Getty
Are you.
Jack Armstrong
Might have to paddle. Gladys. Gladys.
Joe Getty
Oh, Lord. Elder abuse.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, I wonder. Mrs. Rutledge paddled more kids than anybody. And she was like 4 foot 8. I mean, she was one of the shortest adults I've ever seen. And she was angry at the world. And I believe single. So she might have. She. She definitely could have had a. I'm angry. I'm very small. I'm single. I'm angry. I'm going to paddle the Young men of the world thing going. I don't mean like a sexual thing, just an anger thing.
Joe Getty
That sounds like she did a lot of paddling.
Jack Armstrong
But again, everybody I remember getting paddled had it coming. They should have been paddled. Hanson joins us. Executive producer Hanson must have a paddling story from his youth in South Dakota.
Hanson (Executive Producer)
I just love sharing this one. It's, oh, how much times have changed. When I was in fifth grade, our principal. Thank you, Gladys. At a presentation amongst combined classes. So it's like fifth and sixth grade classes. Smart Al kid. Ken, by the way, Ken picked him up by his shirt, picked him up off the ground in front of this presentation and slammed him up against a chalkboard.
Joe Getty
Whoa.
Hanson (Executive Producer)
Principal student.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Hanson (Executive Producer)
Quiet down, young lad. Was the message he was trying to deliver. But he felt like picking him up three feet off the ground and slamming against chocolate.
Joe Getty
There you were at dirty hairy elementary school.
Jack Armstrong
And was Ken the kind of kid that had that coming?
Hanson (Executive Producer)
Yes, yes. Frequently got on the wrong side of the law and was kind of a like, oh, darn it, I did it again kind of kid.
Joe Getty
So ask anybody who attended a Catholic school prior to, say, 1980, and man, they got hit for everything.
Jack Armstrong
Did your dad and have that experience?
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah. If you were looking anywhere but at the teacher or daydreaming or talking or misbehaving in any way, squirming too much, they'd whack you with a ruler or whatever they had handy.
Jack Armstrong
Looking at my sandals, that's a bad.
Joe Getty
Looking out the window, that's a paddling.
Jack Armstrong
Staring at mice handles, that's a paddling. Paddling the school canoe. Oh, you better believe that's a paddling. Oh, boy, I don't know you. Are you more or less in favorite or not. It's still going on in Texas. Are you a yes or no on that?
Joe Getty
Well, you know, your point about not trusting the schools these days to do anything right is a good one. How about you tell me what the kid did, sanction them according to school rules, and I'll decide who gets whacked. That would be my, my point of view. I mean, because unless the kid has established a pattern of behavior, you know, what are you doing hitting my kid?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I, I, if there is a pattern
Joe Getty
of behavior and we get together and I say, you know what? If you gotta whack them, whack them. That's a different circumstance. I say make it public. Public paddlings?
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
In the quad.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know why I was so terrified this, by this I mean it wouldn't, wouldn't feel good. I'm sure it stings but getting hit by a flat board on your buttocks. I'll live. Sure. No wonder the, the bad kids kept doing the bad things. It probably didn't hurt them much for, for us straight laced kids like myself was just horrifying me. I was more worried about the shame and the, the being singled out as a bad kid than I was the, the pain of the paddling.
Joe Getty
But now it was the ass pain that bothered me.
Jack Armstrong
I think let me come to your school. I'll walk the halls. I can tell by looking at them and I'll just based on how they look they'll get a paddling. I think that's why you want to do it.
Joe Getty
Wow. Nice. Let's see. Got this from longtime friend of the Show, Dave, my 6th grade teacher grabbed a kid by the collar, had him in the air, pressed him against the wall, yelling in his face, that kid is a judge. Now.
Jack Armstrong
There you go. Turned him around.
Joe Getty
That's right.
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oh my God. I'm transfixed by this video I just came across. The audio would be a little confusing, I think. What are they? That's Dr. Oz's voice talking to RFK Jr. So the video is. It's. It's RFK Jr. In his suit pants, tight dress shirt and skinny black. I'm a Kennedy tie and stocking feet on a patio. It turns out to be Dr. Oz's patio. So just all of this is just like if you went back in a time machine 15 years, you'd be like, what? Anyway, RFK Jr. In his sock. Feet on Dr. Oz's patio with the wife of Larry David from the Curb youb Enthusiasm show, which is, you know, JFK's RFK actual wife saying, oh, watch out. Can you get what? Be careful. There's a couple of snakes going crazy in the corner of the patio. RFK Jr walks over there in his socks, reaches down with his hands, scrolls around, grabs these two snakes. They're squirming around and flying around every direction. He walks over with a big smile on his face. They're all like, what are you doing? He's like, oh, they're harmless or whatever. And he's, oh, are they biting you? Yeah, that one kind of bit me. And he shakes his head.
Joe Getty
Gemini. It's no dead bear, but a couple of snakes will do. The fact that he was not shirtless wearing tight jeans is very disappointing to me.
Jack Armstrong
But I don't know.
Joe Getty
Stocking feet. So do you have to take off your shoes at Dr. Oz's pad? I hate that.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'll bet that's it. I'll bet Dr. Oz makes you take your shoes off when you go in and they're out on the back patio looking over the ocean. Because Dr. Oz, as a TV quack, apparently has done pretty good for himself.
Joe Getty
Yeah, please.
Jack Armstrong
What is with RFK Jr. I don't know many people in my life that would have gone over and just bent down with a big smile on their face and grabbed those two snakes and walked over and let them continue to bite him on the hands
Joe Getty
while they talk about really bad idea.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if he just really knows snakes and knew what kind of snakes they were or is okay with being bitten by. I don't even care if it's non feminist. I don't want to be bitten by snakes. I don't like the idea of grabbing snakes with my bare hands.
Joe Getty
I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I'm not.
Joe Getty
No if they're non venomous, but you could get horrendous infections. Are you kidding? A reptile is breaking your skin and
Jack Armstrong
he's just got this big smile on his face like, isn't this great? These two snakes that are swinging around and everything like that. And Dr. Austin chair lines are like, what the hell are you doing? What a nut he is.
Joe Getty
I, I. Marco Rubio's got to be thinking, what the hell have I gotten myself into?
Jack Armstrong
We're gonna post this at the website. I'm retweeting it.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
You think his dozen years of being a heroin addict just, like, numbed him to life or something? That is a wild video, huh? You don't see that every day.
Joe Getty
I'll go over there in my stocking feet and wrangle those snakes for you, Dr. Oz. No problem.
Jack Armstrong
I'm on Dr. Oz's patio and RFK. Isn't he like in his mid-70s?
Joe Getty
You'll be fine. Larry David's TV Life. I've got this. Yeah, he's an old steroid abusing super tan, insanely tanned. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Big smile on his face. Look at these two snakes I'm holding spinning around and biting him on the hands.
Joe Getty
What the hell?
Jack Armstrong
I know. I hope that's not AI. It doesn't look like AI.
Joe Getty
It looks real. Oh, wow. Wow, that's an interesting possibility.
Jack Armstrong
He just shuffles over there and. Yeah, I wonder. That'll be funny if it turns out to be completely made up AI.
Joe Getty
Speaking of AI, you got the Pope speaking out against AI. He's warned us that it's the modern Tower of Babel. You got reports on killer robots powered by AI. You got the FBI is warning that anti tech extremism is going to be a source of terrorism in coming days. Holy cow, it's gone wild. We'll have all that for you coming up in moments. Stay with us,
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Killer robots powered by artificial intelligence, helping commanders decide what to and when. Here at the largest US led war games in Africa. Now, this may look like a traditional operation, but what you don't see, at least not with first glance, is that this entire operation is being shaped in real time by AI.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's horrifying.
Joe Getty
It is, it is. Why don't we, why don't we hear a little more about it, then we will launch into a bit of analysis. Go ahead, Michael.
News Reporter
200 miles away, that invisible war is being fought here inside this joint operations command in Agadir, Morocco, where AI processes battlefield intelligence in real time. The Pentagon insists humans remain in the loop when it comes to taking a life. Lt. Col. Ramon Leon Guerrero suggested otherwise.
Jack Armstrong
There is systems out there that are autonomous, completely autonomous, and they'll engage without
News Reporter
the human in the loop.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, that is correct. I mean, it could be lethal or non lethal. Yeah, it's amazing to me that people are making, I guess it's not amazing, but that people are making such a big deal of the crossing the line from a human being making the call to AI making the call. It's gonna happen. If it, if it hasn't happened already, it's going to happen next week. It's going to become as regular as anything could be soon. I'll bet Ukraine's doing it and it practically has to.
Joe Getty
I heard a really, really interesting interview on a war technology oriented podcast where a guy who is, who works for one of these startups is talking about the fact that if you're talking missile defense, for instance, or drone defense. And we're dealing with that in real time in the Middle east, and certainly Ukraine's been dealing with it for a while, and everybody will be soon. You're protecting a much, much bigger area than, say, a military base. And you've got to have sensors collecting data essentially of what's flying around, what's a threat, what's not, et cetera. And then that much data has to be crunched by AI systems. You can't have human analysts sitting there dealing with that much data quickly enough to defend yourself against attacks. And so, yeah, those, those automated systems have to be empowered to take out the threat. Now, you could say, well, you can shoot down the weapon, but don't bomb the. Where it was launched from.
Jack Armstrong
Now, my guess is not realistic. My guess would be at the Pentagon, they realize, okay, we gotta. It's gonna take a while for the public to get used to this. So we have to claim, no, no, no, there are no automated. There will be.
Joe Getty
No.
Jack Armstrong
Nobody will be taking lives unless it's made. Decision made by a human being. They realize that that's just for now. People use the idea and come around to the fact that, yeah, this is what everybody's doing everywhere, and if we were to not do it, we'd really be behind, yeah, this is how we're
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General Dagvin Anderson, head of U.S. africa Command, told us much of the military's defensive systems are already automated. Sometimes the line between defense and offense can get a little blurry, as always. So what price are you willing to pay to have a human in the loop?
Joe Getty
I don't know that we. That's. So I guess that depends on the situation, doesn't it?
Jack Armstrong
Right. So there he's trying to come up with a politically correct way to answer that question. But the right answer is, well, we're not going to because it's better. Do you remember that story from a month or so ago about the kid that ran out in front of the Waymo and. And then the Waymo barely hit the kid. And then after a couple of days of coverage, it became clear that it stopped way faster than any human being would have been able to react? It's gonna be like that with warfare.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
AI can react quicker than a human being could ever react. So, yes, unless you want to lose to China and Russia and anybody else who attacks us, AI is gonna be making the call.
Joe Getty
Yeah. The way that question was posed was highly Highly annoying. Hey, look, we've got to be effective. We're talking about human beings dying here. I'm sorry you're uncomfortable with no human being in that loop, but that loop is gonna take, like, two seconds, so. No.
Jack Armstrong
So that idea of a battle happening somewhere else where there are no human beings and we're watching it from afar, that'll happen various places on planet Earth, but it's absolutely gonna happen in the sky, in space, when, you know, when we're building a data center and China tries to blow it up or whatever is going on, these battles will be fought in space. It'll be weird. Like day three of the battle for the data center in space or the middle of the desert somewhere or whatever. Let's check on the battle and see how it's going. It looks like China's winning right now. Oh, the USA takes a lead. Join us tonight. We'll see how it's going. You know, that's the way it's going to be, right?
Joe Getty
We've got an exciting new drone technology, space drone technology we're going to try out tomorrow, so don't worry. This battle isn't over yet. Right? Yeah. It's kind of funny that the greatest piece of science fiction ever produced, probably in terms of popularity, Star wars, had men in fighter jets, essentially, in dog fights in space. There'll be absolutely no need for that. Well, the Pope isn't happy about any of it, Jack, and is warning us that this is a modern Tower of Babel and AI is dangerous.
Jack Armstrong
Probably is.
Joe Getty
And, well, he's right. It will kill humanity. But what about China, Mr. Pope? Let's hear from Tom Sufi on ABC News.
Tom Sufi (ABC News Reporter)
Pope Leo warning world leaders to install safeguards for some of AI technology's most disruptive effects.
Jack Armstrong
I hear very troubling accounts of algorithms that can block access to health care, employment, and security on the basis of data tainted by prejudice and injustice.
Joe Getty
All right, all right, one more.
Tom Sufi (ABC News Reporter)
First ever papal encyclical, The Pope recognizing AI's power to heal, connect, and educate, but underlining the need to protect human dignity in an age when technology threatens to replace so many jobs and change the way we live.
Jack Armstrong
Artificial intelligence now demands to be disarmed, freed from logics that turn it into an instrument of domination, exclusion, and death. So easy to be the Pope or pacifists or, you know, lots of different kind of things where you can just. You can just, like, go with the highest ideal of what would be nice if that could happen. Ignoring reality and. And. And the insurmountable logic of what is going to happen. Just. Just live on a higher plane. This would be bad for humanity, so we shouldn't do it. Okay, well, we're gonna do it. It. China's gonna do it. So now what's your opinion?
Joe Getty
And, hey, what's up with the accent? You're from Chicago, all right? What do you sound like that for all of a sudden? Yeah. We must not embrace killing machines. The other guy's got killing machines, and he's gonna kill us with them. We gotta kill his killing machines. Well, nonetheless, I still say, okay, Mr.
Jack Armstrong
Pope, good for you.
Joe Getty
You know what? If you want to help me connect with Jesus, that I'm more than happy to. To hear your opinions.
Jack Armstrong
I mentioned this earlier. So a lot of that anti data center kerfuffle that happened over the last couple of weeks and protests and everything that was going on online about water usage and electric usage and why data centers are evil and we need to oppose them was coming out of China, it turns out. So Kevin O', Leary, Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank, his company's behind the big one in Utah. He's sunk gazillions of dollars into this thing because he thinks AI is the future. And he was wondering, where did all this come from, these protests? Who. Who's funding these protests? They came out of nowhere. And he tweeted out. Over the weekend, I shared 90 pages of evidence with federal law enforcement, raising concerns directly with contacts at the White House. This isn't speculation. The filings of the funding records, dates, connections, this is all documented. It's a coordinated PR war happening around energy, infrastructure and data centers. I'm not going to ignore it, but it's the Chinese. And he talks about, you know, how aggressive they're being on with the chips and stealing technology and why they want Taiwan and all this, and he ended it with this. This is no longer about stocks. It's a global race for AI dominance, and we need to win. That is what's going on here.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Mr. Pope.
Joe Getty
China is. Is funding all sorts of protest groups on all sorts of topics. But, yeah, AI especially because they're desperate to not lose the race. Mr. Pope. And this in a related story. In the wake of attacks on CEOs and a nationwide protest movement targeting data centers and increasing concerns about AI job replacement, federal intelligence agencies and domestic law enforcement are circulating reports with a new domestic target in mind. Anti technology extremists. More than 1,000 pages of unpublished reports from the Department of Homeland Security, FBI and similar obtained. Obtained by Wired.com show a national shift taking place to surveil this new and worryingly broad category of people and activities deemed an emerging threat. Now, they take the point of view, as you may have gleaned from that sentence, that all of this is overreached by the federal government. And I don't want a surveillance state either. But yeah, left wing extremism against technology is something to worry about.
Jack Armstrong
There's a whole bunch of Ted Kaczynski's out there. Like an organized group of Ted Kaczynski.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, absolutely. Well, organized or not, it's still a threat.
Jack Armstrong
I could see that happening. I mean, with all the boos at every graduation ceremony where anybody mentioned AI at all. Yeah, this is gonna be a thing.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And it's interesting. It looks like maybe the politics are finally starting to break one way or the other, where people who lean Republican are gonna be for AI and people who lean left are going to be against it. It's kind of interesting since the Republican party has become the party of the working class, which is going to be devastated by AI. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know how things will shake out over time.
Joe Getty
As we've discussed recently, what the party is changes constantly based on who's the presidential candidate. So there could be an enormous swap of identity election by election. We don't know. So one more bit on, on this, this alleged threat, which is probably real threat. The chaotic atmosphere that may result from emergent AI technology in the next five years may fuel large scale protests that devolve into civil unrest and anti tech violent extremist activities, especially in large urban areas such as New York City. The report reads. In the same intelligence bureau assessment, analysts also described a novel threat emerging in the wake of the arrest and trial of Ziz Laoda, an extreme rationalist, whatever that means, who allegedly led a small cult like Group 3 members of which had been charged with murder tied to an obsessive ideology focused on the existential risk posed by AI. Yeah, I could definitely see that becoming a big thing. Yep. Man, these times are too spicy. Sure ordered something else.
Jack Armstrong
So o' Leary had death threats against his family. Now that might have been a homegrown left wing nut jobs like anti technology nut jobs like you were just talking about. Or maybe that was organized by the Chinese to try to scare him off building the data center, who knows? But that's why I was watching him. He was debating Tucker Carlson over the weekend and really getting into it on why this is us versus China and we gotta win. And he said I am personally invested now that my family has been threatened in making sure we win this battle.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. What did Tucker say? In short, what are his arguments?
Jack Armstrong
As usual. And this goes way back to his TV show. I used to come on here all the time and say, I don't quite get what Tucker's philosophy is. Like. I would, like I would get into some of his rant every night. Yeah. But then I couldn't quite grasp the overall point. And I'm still there with Tucker.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. I could absolutely see evildoers harnessing the mum, Donnie, Luigi, Mangioni energy that's in the air among the young to go after the tech thing. I mean, number one, there are a number of billionaires involved and yeah, displacing the common man, putting people out of work.
Jack Armstrong
There's fertile ground there and I'm pretty scared about it myself.
News Reporter
What the type of AI it is.
Jack Armstrong
As you can hear that from that woman there. That's.
Joe Getty
That's the every woman right there. That's.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if that's every woman. Let's hear her again.
News Reporter
What the type of AI it is.
Joe Getty
It did. It is. Right? That's what she's asking on behalf of all of us. It did what the f. Type of AIs it is.
News Reporter
What the type of AI it is.
Jack Armstrong
It is.
Joe Getty
Right? It is.
Jack Armstrong
She's so busy, she doesn't have time to say, is this consonants, please. She's trying to fight AI so she only has time to say, Eddie, what
News Reporter
the type of AI shit it is.
Joe Getty
Question on everyone's lips.
Jack Armstrong
I know. Another question on everybody's lips. What killed that race car driver so fast? Oh, how do I know when I get a headache, I ain't got Whatever he had. We got a little info on that among other things on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Gettysburg,
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Jack Armstrong
Closest Indy 500 ever.02 seconds though at that speed it's not photo finished. She's still like a half a car ahead, but that is unbelievable.
Joe Getty
Oh, it was a nose. I mean it was like two feet. It was amazing.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you don't think that'd be Possible you'd race for 500 miles all day long and end up side by side coming to the finish line.
Joe Getty
Races got to be so long. Then you got the Coca Cola 600. How about we just dispass dispatch with the first three, 400 miles and, you
Jack Armstrong
know, I guess it's like, you know, you got to understand the sport. Any sport to enjoy. It's like, I don't get soccer because I don't. I never played it, and I don't get it. So I cannot imagine why. It's interesting to watch. Same with racing. 600 miles. But then I knew people when we lived. We lived in Charlotte, North Carolina for a while, worked at a radio station. I knew people that would wear the headphones and listen to the pit crews and watch the Entire Coca Cola 600 and BE, you know, enraptured by the whole thing.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Yep. True enough.
Jack Armstrong
You got to be into it. So, speaking of race car drivers, we all know famous race car driver died unexpectedly, Kyle Busch last week. So here's the rundown on that. So middle of May, it's only the 26th, so that's like a couple weeks ago. So middle of May, he had gotten. He had gotten a cold and had a lingering cough. Both my kids have lingering coughs right
Joe Getty
now,
Jack Armstrong
early midway mid May, coughing, not feeling right, but being told that, you know, you're. Well, you're getting over a cold and it's the lingering cough kind of cold that's been going around for some people.
Joe Getty
We've all had it. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
May 15, still healthy enough to race and win. On May 15, though, he was coughing, symptoms started to get a little worse. May 20, severe shortness of breath and coughing blood. May 21, collapsed and died. Pneumonia progressed into sepsis. And here's the info on that. That's one of the frightening things about pneumonia and sepsis, especially in otherwise strong, athletic people. Someone can still function at a very high level. While the infection is building in your body, you don't really feel it. You don't feel great, but you don't feel horrible. And then you deteriorate really fast once the body's inflammatory response spirals out of control with the sepsis. So it's. It's getting worse and worse inside you, and you're like, I don't quite feel right, but I can still go to work and win a race and all that sort of stuff.
Joe Getty
Oh, this is making me lightheaded. I hate this discussion.
Jack Armstrong
There's got to be some other signs that we. Because we can't all go to the doctor Every time we have a cough
Joe Getty
after a cold, it's lingering. Dr. Lingering. Yeah. That's just a nightmare. I'm gonna convince myself it's notable because it's so rare and go on with my day. Excuse me, I've got a cough, but you at least clear my throat.
Jack Armstrong
But you have the Haunted, which is a completely different thing, right?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. In retrospect, starting a rat farm was not the best idea. But we plowed all our money into it, so you got to stick with it.
Jack Armstrong
How are you going to make the money? Are you going to sell? Who are you going to sell the rats?
Joe Getty
I didn't figure that out.
Jack Armstrong
You hadn't thought through?
Joe Getty
Well, the rat farm salesman conveyed he was a fast talking chap.
Jack Armstrong
Turns out nobody's a mistake. People are mostly trying to get rid of rats and I just misread the room.
Joe Getty
Should have asked him. When I raise all these rats, what then?
Jack Armstrong
I didn't think of it. If you missed a segment at the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
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In this episode, Armstrong & Getty tackle the theme of “Dignity & Spankings,” weaving together spirited discussions on current geopolitical tensions, generational attitudes about socialism, the controversy over corporal punishment in schools, the frightening advance of AI in warfare, and cultural observations from viral moments to racing news. Listeners are treated to the show’s signature blend of humor, exasperation, and skeptical curiosity as the hosts engage with serious news and quirky diversions alike.
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Armstrong & Getty balance irreverence and insight, often using humor to spotlight absurdities or irritants in modern culture and politics. Their conversation is fast-paced, peppered with asides, generational in-jokes, and occasional moments of genuine concern or nostalgia. They maintain a skeptical, sometimes exasperated tone—whether mocking internet culture, wrangling with bureaucrats, or expressing worry about technological or political developments.
Even if you missed the episode, this summary captures Armstrong & Getty's lively blend of news commentary, cultural skepticism, generational gripes, and offbeat storytelling—covering everything from the world’s AI and political anxieties to school paddling stories and viral oddities.