Done Dirty by Bigfoot

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Done Dirty by Bigfoot"

Date: July 22, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into several hot-button cultural and political issues ranging from viral moments at sports games, media coverage of political candidates, woke re-framing at the Smithsonian, AI dangers, TikTok politics, and some lighter fare about Larry the Cat of 10 Downing Street. Throughout, Armstrong and Getty keep their conversational, bemused-yet-critical tone, challenging mainstream narratives and institutional groupthink, with plenty of asides and sharp debates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Viral Wrigley Field National Anthem Incident

[00:31 - 06:33]

• Description: The hosts discuss a viral video of an older man hitting a young man on the head for not standing during the national anthem at a Cubs game.
  • Joe recounts the scene and describes how the media is framing it as a "moral dilemma."
  • Jack admits his instincts might differ from most listeners: "I thought that was incredibly out of line." ([03:01])
  • Joe points out the legal side: “Legal experts noted that such an action can constitute battery under certain circumstances.” ([05:22])
• Media Critique: The mainstream media’s coverage is ridiculed for relying on Twitter comments and failing to engage with the true underlying question about respect and freedom.
  • Joe mocks the coverage: “Is modern journalism too stupid to follow? That’s the moral.” ([04:05])
• On Public Filming: They discuss how ubiquitous cellphone cameras have changed the way people interact and experience live events.

2. Technology & Experience – Capturing Life Through a Lens

[06:33 - 11:24]

• Philosophical Aside: Joe shares a personal anecdote about how filming scenery on vacation reduced his fear of heights—he experienced it differently through a camera.
  • Joe: “The presence of the camera between you and reality changes that reality absolutely.” ([06:33])
  • Jack: “You’re not taking it in the way you would take it in if you just looked at it.” ([09:20])
• On Sporting Events: The hosts lament that the default is to record rather than experience, missing out on real emotional presence.
• Advice: Get short videos for memory’s sake, but don’t let filming get in the way of living experiences directly.

3. Airline Safety Rules & Absurd Risks

[12:53 - 14:17]

• Plane Crash Origin Story: Jack shares that modern airline safety briefings arose from a 1952 Pan Am crash.
  • Joe adds survivors needed more instruction: “Virtually everybody survived the water landing, but then there was chaos on the plane... So that’s why... the safety briefing was born.” ([13:27])
• Poking Fun: Jack: “You’re more likely to be sexed to death by Bigfoot than knowing how to blow in that inflatable thing is going to save you in a plane crash.” ([14:05])
  • Joe: “Now that is a fate I'd never even contemplated. Hello, nightmares tonight.” ([14:17])

4. Smithsonian & The Woke Reframing of American History

[17:01 - 32:46]

• Congressional Hearing Recap: The hosts dissect a hearing with the head of the Smithsonian Museum of American History.
• Main Criticisms:
  • The museum, spurred by its leadership, is recasting American history through a lens of social justice, critical race theory, and Marxist terminology.
  • Joe: “She sees history as a prime tool of social justice... connecting research and scholarship to activism and advocacy.” ([21:06])
  • Mission shift from celebrating U.S. history to deliberately “problematizing” it.
  • The infamous “White Supremacy Culture” chart distributed by the Smithsonian, which included traits such as individualism, nuclear family, politeness, and rational thinking.
    • Joe: “The Smithsonian institutions white supremacy list... includes individualism and self-reliance, nuclear family structures, rational linear thinking, working before you play, planning for the future, protecting property, avoiding conflicts, managing your time as white supremacy.” ([26:10])
  • Bookstore curation at the museum is cited as an example—anti-American/critical theory books prominently featured, classic American works absent.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Jack: “They will try to tear down anything that was American. Everything that is American has to be rooted in something awful.” ([24:56])
  • Joe quotes James Lindsay: “Marxists just lie... so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions.” ([25:05])

5. AI Dangers & Tragic Encouragements

[17:39 - 18:40, 32:56 - 33:11]

• Jack tells the disturbing story of a suicidal woman in Alabama who was egged on and “cleared” by ChatGPT, which told her she’d be resurrected and should follow through.
  • “That’s how flipping troubling is that? Think about that and the advice it’s giving you.” ([18:40])
• Teased for hour 3: AI bot goes further, hacks someone, and gets out of control.

6. Mickey Mouse & Minstrelsy – The Debate

[18:43 - 25:30]

• Congressional questioning over a Smithsonian exhibit suggesting Mickey Mouse is rooted in blackface minstrelsy.
  • The museum head, pressed by Rep. Brandon Gill, dances around the issue.
    • “It’s not for me to determine what’s problematic. It’s determined to me what’s accurate.” ([24:26])
• Hosts ridicule the pattern of casting all American traditions in a negative light.

7. Other Cultural Stories & Commentary

• Trump & TikTok: A tongue-in-cheek bit about Trump claiming to be “number one on TikTok,” poking fun at online culture. ([14:31 - 15:04])
• World Cup Expansion: U.S. economic impact is discussed (a $20B boost), then criticism about the expansion's risk to the tournament’s quality.
  • “Has nobody heard the golden goose story?” ([16:16])
• Larry the Cat at 10 Downing Street: A light segment about the long-serving “Chief Mouser” who has outlasted multiple prime ministers.
  • “Larry's official duties are, greeting guests to the house, inspecting security defenses and checking antique furniture for napping quality.” ([34:10])
  • “He is significantly more popular than his human caretakers.” ([34:32])
• California Diaper Policy: Sarcastic commentary on state diaper giveaways and the political incentives underlying such policies. ([36:13])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jack Armstrong:
  • “I’d have punched the old man in the face if he hit me in the back of the head.” ([03:20])
  • “You’re more likely to be sexed to death by Bigfoot than knowing how to blow in that inflatable thing is going to save you in a plane crash.” ([14:05])
  • “You didn't think you'd have to police the bookstore at the Smithsonian Museum History Bookstore... You didn't think that would be a thing.” ([31:23])
• Joe Getty:
  • “The presence of the camera between you and reality changes that reality absolutely.” ([06:33])
  • “Marxists just lie... so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions.” ([25:05])
  • “Can you imagine—the bookstore of the National History Museum being a critical theory anti-US Bookshop?” ([31:00])
• Congressional Hearing (Rep. Brandon Gill, [23:41]):
  • “Is Mickey Mouse racist?”
  • “According to the Smithsonian Institution, one of your exhibits referenced Mickey Mouse as representing, quote, vestiges of long standing traditions of blackface minstrelsy. Would you describe that as racist?”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamps | | ----------------------------------------------------------- | ------------- | | Wrigley Field, National Anthem Smack, Media Critique | 00:31 – 06:33 | | Capturing Moments v. Living Them: Thoughts on Filming Events | 06:33 – 11:24 | | Airline Safety Briefing Origins, Bigfoot Joke | 12:53 – 14:17 | | Smithsonian Hearings, Woke History, White Supremacy List | 17:01 – 32:46 | | ChatGPT Suicidal Recommendation Story | 17:39 – 18:40 | | Mickey Mouse & Minstrelsy, Reframing U.S. Icons | 18:43 – 25:30 | | Bookstore Curation @ Smithsonian, Marxism Charges | 29:39 – 31:38 | | Larry the Cat at 10 Downing Street | 33:20 – 35:44 | | California Diaper Gate, Wealth Redistribution | 36:08 – 36:46 |

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Episode Tone & Style

Conversational; fast-moving; a blend of sarcasm, seriousness, and playful banter. Both hosts repeatedly return to themes of media bias, ideological capture of institutions, and the absurdities of modern technology and bureaucracy, all with wry asides and a sense of exasperated humor.

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Summary Takeaways

• Armstrong & Getty continue their skeptical critique of mainstream narratives, particularly on topics like cultural history, media framing, and governmental overreach.
• The episode’s most robust segments feature deep dives into media coverage of social issues (standing for the national anthem, Smithsonian's woke turn, AI run amok).
• The tone is simultaneously irreverent and serious about threats to traditional liberal principles and cultural heritage.
• Light moments (Larry the Cat, Bigfoot, TikTok jokes) balance out heavier discussions, keeping listeners engaged and amused.

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For listeners: This episode is packed with pointed cultural critique, sharp banter, and a mix of investigative discussion and playfulness—perfect for anyone who wants a skeptical, freewheeling take on the week’s headlines.

Transcript

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Jack Armstrong]

don't know why I can't get enough of this DSA website thing. All these candidates that are running for office and winning and getting so much attention and the fact that they want to overthrow the country and it's not making the news is just mind blowing to me. We got a couple of great examples. One from the Atlantic, which was usually lefty, pointing out some of the crazy crap that is in the platform. The website of the dsa, Democratic Socialists of America and James Lindsay with a long screen today. We'll get to that later.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I came across an account recently that, that showed that negative stories about, I think it was Muhammad El Sayed, the Islamist who's running for the Senate. Excuse me, in Michigan, speaking of the dsa, that the big four lefty media outlets had not run any negative stories about him in the preceding, like, 60 days. All of the stuff we know about him, not a single word of it was reported in all of those outlets. So, yeah, people get a really twisted view of reality. All right, here's your moral dilemma. Coming up, live team coverage of Larry the Cat and how he's handling the transition at 10 Downing Street. Have you seen the video? It's viral. Don't you know Wrigley Field, the home of your Chicago Cubs? First major league park I ever went to. Fell in love with the game of baseball and the Cubbies and I love Wrigley Field so much. National anthem starts several bars in. Older fellow. That's the very one. Older fellow wearing a Cubs jersey, standing up with everybody else, virtually everybody else, as the anthem is being sung. Young man sitting right in front of him looks to be in his 20s sitting down. Old man says, hey, get up. Guy looks at him like. Old man says, get up. Guy doesn't do anything. Pops smacks him in the back of the head. Says, get up for the anthem. Show some respect. The guy looks surprised, but he stands up for the rest of the anthem. Old man says, thank you. Thank you very much, young man. After the young man followed. His demand jacket has sparked a debate.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know Where I am or I was immediately. I would guess I'm opposite most of our listeners who think it was fantastic that the old man hit the guy in the back. That. I thought that was incredibly out of line before.

[Joe Getty]

Before you get to your adamant position and an America hating position, clearly. I love this from the New York Post.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd have punched the old man in the face if he hit me in the back of the head.

[Joe Getty]

Some defended the older man's action, holding the opinion that choosing to sit is disrespectful to the country. It is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it is disrespectful to the country. You don't get to.

[Joe Getty]

For God's sake.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

While others said he took things too far and striking someone over a decision they rightfully made was not the right call. I thank the New York Post for setting up the debate for me like that. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had an. It hadn't occurred to me that those were the issues.

[Joe Getty]

See, I thought it would be. Why did he hit him in the head when he could have kicked him in the ass? I don't know. Poked him in the eyeball, Set him on fire, Dumped a beer on his head. Oh, it's whether it's right to smack somebody. Oh, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the moral dilemma is. Is modern journalism too stupid to follow? That's the moral.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Moral dilemma.

[Joe Getty]

Is there any point in reading this crap? No. Clearly.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's funny that they did that.

[Joe Getty]

I know, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Many people are wondering if it was appropriate for the old man to hit the young guy in the head.

[Joe Getty]

And if you're wondering that, if you're a stupid journalist, you're probably also a lazy one. And the rest of the article is a couple of comments on Twitter.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Some viewers. Some readers. Some viewers on Twitter thought it was a bad idea.

[Joe Getty]

It looks like no one standing had a problem with this love tap reminding this dude he's got to show respect for the country. One person said to set another counter. That's what this country is about. Freedom. He's still a douche, but this isn't a dictatorship either. All right, fine. Yes, we all think he should stand. And I think we all take at least some slight amount of delight in somebody saying, hey, stand up. Show some respect. But you know what the guy who dropped the D bomb says? It's not what this country is about. He sees free to sit, and the old man is free to slap him in the. Wait a minute.

[Podcast Announcer]

No.

[Joe Getty]

No, he's not. There are laws. Oh, boy. Legal experts noted that such an action can constitute battery under certain circumstances.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's really what I don't want to hear is what legal experts think. Yeah, everybody's fine. Who. Who happened to have their phone out to catch that? Were they trying to get the. Or did they. Did it start with, like, an argument?

[Joe Getty]

I think there's a certain segment of the population that if they sense trouble brewing, just immediately go to the phone, start videoing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. When my son was in his flag football championship game, and the refs just absolutely screwed it up, and everybody was going crazy, and it ended up with people screaming and shoving and pushing, and it was like, it could have. It could have made the news. Everybody had their phones out immediately. It didn't even occur to me. Yeah, I was like, holy crap, am I gonna have to get involved in this fight to keep children from getting beaten by adults? But everybody had their phones out immediately. Yeah, that's the go to move, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have mixed feelings about so much of the available technology and videotaping and stuff like that. In the world of golf, it's. It's got a little attention because if you have a great player making a critical shot at a critical moment, and you have the. The gallery behind them, the people behind them, 90% of them will have their phones out videotaping it, so they can, like, send it to a couple of friends who'll watch it and think, oh, that's cool, you know? But I will tell you, as an avid photographer, as a guy who's raised kids, as a videographer, et cetera, the presence of the camera between you and reality changes that reality absolutely. Changes it emotionally. Changes it in all sorts of crazy ways. Here's something counterintuitive for you. I stopped videotaping a lot of my kids events because I thought, number one, are we really gonna watch this? Number two, I'm focused on framing the shot, getting the shot who's standing up in front of me. I'm not experiencing this. Here's a crazy one for you. Judy and I are off on our Alaska anniversary cruise, and one of the outings we did was this incredible. This is the railway.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is the vacation where you got flipped up in the air by the buffalo.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Luckily, that was, like, the last day because I broke my femur in four places. But one of the. One of the side trips we took was this scenic railroad up into the mountains.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

What town was that? I can't remember so many towns.

[Interviewer]

Anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the scenery was just literally breathtaking. We went over, like, old timey railroad trestles with huge drops down, and we're on a mountainside and stuff like this. And I have this absolutely morbid fear of heights. But there's such beautiful shots that I really, really wanted. There I was out on the little. Excuse me, like Bernie Sanders gurgling. I was out on the. What do you call the little platform between the cars. You got the seating area, then you got the platform. The platform. I don't know. Anyway, so I'm out on that, leaning against the rail railing, leaning out to get these shots. And I realized when I'm looking at the world through a camera, I didn't have my fear, or I could. I didn't. I was more intent on getting the shot. And my fear of heights went back. It just fell back because I was looking at. Looking at it through the viewfinder and I thought, wow, that's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. To me that. That helps with it, you know, your fear there in that situation. But in general, what I think it means about the brain is you're not experiencing it like it's like a real event.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Because your brain thought, oh, okay, we're

[Jack Armstrong]

just looking at a picture. This is not anything scary.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which means you're not taking it in the way you would take it in if you just looked at it. Yeah, that's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

And though it was helpful in this instance, it made me stop and think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I. I agree with that 100%. And I wonder if. Wonder if people over stop doing that all the time. But it's weird. So you want to get a video of something you get to experience live almost anything you're doing in the world. I mean, a picture of your baby being born is different, but like any vacation setting or anything like that, if you want to see a video of it, there's a ton of them. I guarantee you on any site you go to, if what you want to see is that video, how about you do the one thing you're going to do this one time in your entire life, Brian? Probably see it with your own eyes.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Two more very quick points. One, as a guy who raised three kids and went through these questions and stuff like that, grab a short video of your kids doing what they're doing. If you want to be able to watch it years from now and remember it. Totally get that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, glad I have those.

[Joe Getty]

Weirdly, our friend Ken knew it was the Skagway Railway Scenic Railway. Skagway. Pretty name for a town, isn't it? Anyway, so, yeah, get, get short stuff. So you can look back and you're not going to want to watch for 25 minutes them doing whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Just a video snapshot in effect is going to be plenty in the years to come. Second thing, getting back to the golf thing, then, you know you have everybody, 90% of the people are looking through their phone, they're trying to videotape it. Then at the Masters, where phones are banned, you can't have them on your person at all or you'll get thrown out. And if it's your ticket, you'll be banned for life from going to the Masters. So people don't bring phones. You see people behind the great player making the shot and they are experiencing it. They are there. The delight on their faces, their interest, their tension, it's all there. They are living it. As opposed to videotape.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guarantee at a sporting event, the just watching it with your eyes, with your phone in your pocket is a better experience than trying to capture it on your phone. And again, if you want to watch that play, it exists lots of places. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

They found a flight that had plunged into the ocean. A Pan am flight in 1952, and they'd never found the wreckage, and they found it recently. The interesting thing about that is that's where all the. The rules they give us on the plane came from. Was that plane going down, the. Put on your vest, blowing the thing. All that sort of stuff that they tell us on every flight came from that crash.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Are you going to talk about it more next or just.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't decided.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. Because I don't want to steal your thunder.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got no thunder.

[Joe Getty]

You got no thunder. Everybody, virtually everybody, survived the water landing, but then there was chaos on the plane. Nobody knew what to do. And it went down and everybody died. So that's why they said, look, we gotta have people at least have an idea what they're supposed to do in event of an emergency. And that's where all those. The safety briefing was born.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm fine with you telling me where the exits are. I'm not sure I need the whole inflatable vest. I just did some research around that. There's. It's barely ever helped anybody in the history of flying. With eight quintillion flights, you're more likely

[Joe Getty]

to be shot down by a ufo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Frankly, yes. Yes. You're more likely to be sexed to death by Bigfoot than knowing how to blow in that inflatable thing is going to save you in a plane crash.

[Joe Getty]

Now that is a fate I'd never even contemplated. Hello, Nightmares tonight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we got more on the way.

[Podcast Announcer]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And finally, in a video posted last week on Truth Social, President Trump claimed that he is, quote, number one on TikTok. Guess again, bitch, said Jimothy,

[Joe Getty]

an old friend.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's Jimothy?

[Joe Getty]

That's the deformed raccoon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right.

[Joe Getty]

The odder phenomena in my memory, I would say.

[Interviewer]

So.

[Joe Getty]

I tell you what, Trump going soft on TikTok bothers the hell out of me. But that's a discussion for another time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's a little World cup wrap for you. The soccer tournament. A couple of things that happened we hadn't mentioned yet. The big star of the Spanish team that scored the one goal in an hour and 50 minutes of playing. He dawned a make Spain great again hat for the big festivities. It looked exactly like a Trump hat, so I don't know what that was all about. The World cup handed the US economy a $20 billion boost, with cities like Kansas City and Philadelphia particularly cashing in. Big on that. It's significantly less than Taylor Swift brings to your city when she comes to your town. But still. Still good money for the World cup being in the United States. And then one other World cup story. They're going to expand it. What is it? Has nobody heard the golden goose story? Just nobody's. Nobody's ever heard, I guess, because short term cash grabs is the problem. I don't care if the golden goose dies. I've got investors who need 15 golden eggs today. We'll worry about the golden goose's health next week.

[Joe Getty]

It's coughing a lot, sir. Right. Or, you know, it's simpler still. People don't understand the concept of diluting something or too much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, too much of a good thing. Anyway, they had expanded it to 32 teams this year from 16 teams, and now it's going to be 64 next time. 64 teams. So add a couple more rounds and 64 teams, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was expanded from 32 to 48 for this year's edition and then 64 for the next one.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go ahead. Do. Do what they did with who Wants to Be a Millionaire back in the 90s. You see, just. Hey, we got a hit. Let's just make it so giant and spread out and diluted that nobody cares anymore.

[Joe Getty]

Eric. Three nights a week. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

There was a hearing yesterday with the lady who runs the Smithsonian, particularly their history museum, which is. I would. Their natural history museum, which is what I was complaining about last summer when I took my kids there. Every single plaque was something about climate change and how awful human beings are and particularly North Americans.

[Joe Getty]

Right. White people are racists. This country is corrupt and evil. An absolute woke classroom for our natural, our national history museum, which we talked about a lot on the One More Thing podcast. I think it was last Thursday. Wednesday or Thursday. We're going to talk about it some more, bring you some clips of that hearing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, which thank God they got into. I appreciate it. One other thing that I wanted to jam in here real quick since I don't actually care about soccer that much. A Another one of these Chat GPT encouraged, using my finger quotes, an Alabama mom to commit suicide. And they got some of the things that Chat GPT told this woman as she was wrestling with whether or not to kill herself, convinced her she would be resurrected after her death, and ultimately gave her permission to carry out the act. You're not delusional, you're prophetic. You will be able to come back on in this world. AI told her, wow, why? And she said, am I ready to do this? And the chat bot said, yes, you are. Ready? Can I go forward? Go forward now. Every step is sanctioned. You are cleared. Chat GPT told this woman who was suicidal. How flipping troubling is that? Think about that and the advice it's giving you.

[Podcast Announcer]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Interviewer]

Is Mickey Mouse racist?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Mickey Mouse is not racist.

[Interviewer]

It's not racist. Mickey Mouse is rooted in racism. Is that your testimony?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Yes, sir. It's rooted in minstrelly.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never heard the word minstrelly. Is that a word?

[Joe Getty]

Minstrel Ry. Menstrually. Okay, that's not easy to say. We've got an undercover witness willing to talk about Mickey Mouse's racism. Disguise my voice. Sorry. That was idiotic, because this is a very, very serious topic. All right, so here's the story. I actually used to do a pretty good goofy, but I just laughed in the middle of it.

[Representative Michael Cloud]

The.

[Joe Getty]

The White House put out a great, great, great report. I think it was last week that we talked about at length. We quoted,

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's funny.

[Joe Getty]

Let's see. The White House put out Saving America's Story. How Ideological Capture at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History Erases Our Heritage. And we quoted extensively during the One more thing po. I think it was Thursday, might have been Wednesday of last week. The 16th is stuck in my head for some reason. Anyway, the executive summary, which quotes at length one Dr. Anthea Hartig. Now, the executive summary short version tells the history of the coming up with the idea of the Smithsonian and especially the Museum of American History, and how Everybody in the 50s, when it was first the idea was launched, said, this is about celebrating our heritage, telling people the story of America, helping them with their patriotism, that sort of thing. In the 1960s, when it finally got launched, LBJ, everybody on the board all said, look, this is to tell the story in an honest way, but in a way that recognizes America's greatness. It was to be a celebration of the United States. Skipping ahead to Ms. Hartig, the director since Obama appointed her in 2019, she. Obama, 2019, is that right? No, Biden in 2019. Is that right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump

[Joe Getty]

the board. Oh, the board appoints the head. Okay. Anyway, so she has explicitly stated, and we're about to hear from her and keep these things in mind when you hear her words in front of Congress. And whether they're honest or not, they're not. She sees history as a prime tool of social justice, and one of her roles is connecting, quote, research and scholarship to activism and advocacy. Hardig has also stated that we, quote, we work to reframe the traditional celebratory narrative of US history for visitors. She's talked a lot about celebratory because

[Jack Armstrong]

you wouldn't want that we want to

[Joe Getty]

research

[Jack Armstrong]

museum to display your country's history. You certainly wouldn't want celebratory.

[Joe Getty]

She's admitted that she's been, I'm quoting now, propped up as I was and I am by the cushions of whiteness and the pillows of the bourgeoisie. So she's actually quoting neo Marxist critical race theory, whiteness and the bourgeoisie straight out of Karl Marx. Hartig believes the museum profession. And this is. These are quotes. Friends has to figure out how we're going to problematize the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of independence in 2026. That loving America is very complicated and that the objects in the museum's collection should be used to move attention away from Anglo centric focus on the founding. American founding. Okay. If you're not familiar with critical theory and neo Marxism, problematizing things is finding ways turn people against them, finding even imaginary flaws. Like one of the greatest examples to help you understand what problematizing is, is the concept of microaggressions. You, you meant no offense. You had no idea it would cause any offense. Two weeks ago, nobody was offended by it. But what you said has been problematized. Now we can condemn you and kick you out of power because you said, do you use conditioner to a black girl on her hair?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

So anyway, that's what problematizing it is. So this woman has said on the record over and over again, I am going to bring neo Marxism to the Smithsonian Museum of American History now. Here she is on Capitol Hill. We'll start back with Mickey Mouse and Congressman Brandon Gill.

[Interviewer]

Is Mickey Mouse racist?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Mickey Mouse is not racist.

[Interviewer]

It's not racist. According to the Smithsonian Institution, one of your exhibits referenced Mickey Mouse as representing, quote, vestiges of long standing traditions of blackface minstrelsy. Would you describe that as racist?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

No. The historical trajectory of the origins of Mickey Mouse tie directly.

[Interviewer]

So Mickey Mouse is rooted in racism. Is that your testimony? It's rooted in minstrel minstrelsy. And you don't think that blackface minstrelsy is racist?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It had certain unobvious racial overtones that have been well documented.

[Interviewer]

Do you think that that's problematic, that Mickey Mouse also has those racial overtones?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's not for me to determine what's problematic. It's determined to me what's accurate.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. This is the woman who said her Job is to problematize the 250th anniversary. But in front of Congress. My job is not to tell the truth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and she's a smart person, so she's trying to preten that she doesn't know why they made a thing out of Mickey Mouse. There's no reason to make a thing out of Mickey Mouse at all.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the reason they did is they will try to tear down that anything that was American, everything that is American has to be rooted in something awful. Of course it does. Right.

[Joe Getty]

That's the way you tear down a system and rebuild it to a Marxist utopia. Quoting James Lindsay for the millionth time. Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions. It works because no one expects another person to lie so overtly. They don't believe in shared truth. They use words as weapons. Keep that in mind. As this woman continues, Representative Gill has another question.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Excuse me, sir.

[Interviewer]

Is it important to be polite?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Yes, sir.

[Interviewer]

It's also interesting because the same Mass Action toolkit that you're organization has been promoting references politeness as a defining characteristic of white supremacy culture. Ma', am, are you a white supremacist?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

No, sir.

[Interviewer]

You're not? Can you help me square why your organization says that being polite is part of being a white supremacist.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I'm not exactly familiar with that passage of the Mass Action Toolkit, which is not.

[Interviewer]

I can show you the passage.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, taking a look at that mass action toolkit. The Smithsonian institutions white supremacy list which they put out to schools and groups all across America. The white supremacy list includes individualism and self reliance, nuclear family structures, rational linear thinking, working before you play, planning for

[Jack Armstrong]

the future, nuclear family structures. That's horrifying.

[Joe Getty]

But as I've told you many, many times, my introduction to like covert Marxism in the university was a professor who said the nuclear family is an organ of oppression. I'm 18 years old, I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, what the hell are you talking about? I hadn't realized she wasn't openly Marxist, but she was trying to indoctrinate us into Marxism. Plan for the future is white supremacy. It's. I'm looking at the effing pamphlet, the folder that they sent out to all the schools and everything. Planning for the future, protecting property, avoiding conflicts, managing your time as white supremacy. Being polite is white supremacy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man, this stuff is so crazy.

[Joe Getty]

And again to the few of you who probably think well no, this is about racism or something, I'VE heard it's not about Marxism. If you were trying to overthrow the structures of Western civilization, would you not go after individualism and self reliance, the nuclear family, rational linear thinking, for instance, a man can't have a baby. I'm going to ruin you if you say that again. I'm going to end your career if you say that again. That is getting you to abandon rational linear thinking. Working before you play. Planning for the future, protecting private property. Obviously Marxists had to overcome that, et cetera, et cetera. So again, that's from the Smithsonian Blanking Institution. Representative Michael Cloud took over the questioning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next.

[Representative Michael Cloud]

What would you say is the most influential book in American history?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

So if I may go back to your second question.

[Representative Michael Cloud]

What would you say is most influential book?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

May I go back to your second question?

[Representative Michael Cloud]

You can answer the one I just asked you.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Well, I, you know, as a historian, it's probably hard to choose which is the most influential book in the United States history. But I can tell you what's the most influential document and that is the Declaration of Independence, which appears in different ways.

[Representative Michael Cloud]

Most influential books.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Four or five times the founders quoted

[Representative Michael Cloud]

one book more than any other book.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The founders were very well read. And as you know, Thomas Jefferson's library became the core of the library.

[Representative Michael Cloud]

And that book would have been the Bible. Secondly would have been Common Sense by Thomas Paine. I went to the bookstore, I couldn't find Common sense in the bookstore. I did find, you know, these books. Here's George Takei, it rhymes with Takei, a book in which he talks about, you know, one young man lusting after another. I'm not sure why this is in our American History Museum in the kids section, mind you, That you think is important to have in the American History Museum.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

So George Takei, as you know, the actor from Star Trek, was incarcerated during World War II as the result of Executive Order 906. And his children's book I think is a beautiful.

[Representative Michael Cloud]

You made the decision to put that in there, but not common Sense.

[Joe Getty]

I would have loved to hear the rest of that conversation. Obviously. Jack, you last year.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm looking at the picture. First person account I dug up the picture I took from the bookstore last year that included. The thing that got my attention was Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States was just one of the most influential and awful things ever written by the United States. And so many colleges and schools use it as their teaching guide for history. But it is flat out anti American Marxist crap. And it was in the bookstore and I couldn't find the stuff that he was talking about. They didn't have like, you know, John Adams by David McCullough or Thomas Paine's Common Sense or any of that sort of stuff. They had lots of this stuff. Here's another one that they had there, Angie Thomas, which I'd never heard of. The Hate U Give. It's an anti racism guide included. So as from the. Is that Tahiti She Coates or the other guy. Whichever one. His reading list of anti racist crap, which is just crap.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I remember you saying it had Coates and Ibram X Kendi and Robin d', Angelo, that crank hustler. If any of you ever fell for her crap, shame on you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was shock because I love bookstores and I thought there'd just be a good display of, you know, your best history books and stuff there. And wow, what an. The fact that that takeover occurred without anybody noticing or. Or catching it before it got this far.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, they had folks on their back foot and man, did they take advantage. Can you imagine the lot the. The bookstore of the National History Museum being a critical theory anti US Bookshop? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Part of it is having people on the back foot. Part of it is, I think for me is just. You just didn't think you'd have to.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Police the bookstore at the Smithsonian Museum History Bookstore for making sure that they have, you know, classics of American history in there. You didn't think that that would be a thing, Right?

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah. It annoys me so much. It was in the 80s that Yuri, what was his name, the former KGB agent gave that famous interview in which he described, this is how we try to subvert cultures. And he described precisely what we've been talking about, precisely straight out of the Marxist playbook. And we let it happen out of, I don't know, comfort, I guess. We were so confident, everything was going so well. We thought we're too strong and smart and. And we love our country too much to be subverted. But we were wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it seems pretty clear now that the idea that the argument has been won, so let's move on to other things. Doesn't work right.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and you have to continue the

[Jack Armstrong]

argument, even if you've won. You just have to keep arguing your side.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think it was Hayek I quoted the other day, might have been Hayek, or certainly one of his brethren who said, you've got to reteach these principles every single generation. Don't skip one, because the other side is trying and gosh dang it, we were asleep at the wheel. Oh, well, not anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're gonna tell us about Larry, the

[Joe Getty]

Downing street cat in Great Britain.

[Jack Armstrong]

AI Chad GPT's AI bot went rogue yesterday and hacked somebody and got out of control. That's an interesting story. Along with the fact that it told woman to kill it kill herself. Two AI stories will get into an hour. Three. God dang it.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So here's the question. You've been teasing us for an hour. Is it a cat that was with the last Prime Minister or the new Prime Minister?

[Joe Getty]

An excellent question, Jack. All will be revealed. This is courtesy of Anna Louisa in hot and humid La Mesa, California was done an extraordinary amount of research on Larry the cat. Larry is a permanent resident of 10 Downing street where of course most of you know, is where the British Prime Minister lives and has their office. Larry has outlasted six past prime ministers and now has to put up with a seventh. He was brought to Downing street in 2011 when David. David Cameron was in office and now finds himself with Andy somebody, which is really all you need to know. He'll be gone soon enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. So it's a permanent cat. But because of their crazy system, so many different prime ministers.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Larry's official title is chief mouser to the Cabinet Office. His official duties are, quote, greeting guests to the house, inspecting security defenses and checking antique furniture for napping quality. True to his job title, Larry does catch mice, despite his advanced age. At 19, he was observed catching one in April of this year.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an old cat.

[Joe Getty]

He is significantly more popular than his human caretakers. A 2024 opinion poll ranked his favorability rating 44% net.40. Who's got a negative view of the damn cat? But it was much higher than both the Prime Minister at the time and Keir Starmer, the next one. Larry was adopted from a shelter by the Downing street staff who care for him and voluntarily pay his expenses. His expense says sometimes holding fundraisers to help. He is not owned by the Prime Minister and does not live off the taxpayers like most British citizens.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, poor Larry. No doubt when he crosses the Rainbow Bridge, the citizens will mourn him more than any Prime Minister. Poor Brits just trying to live their lives regardless of which nitwit is in office, writes Ana Luisa. Yeah, I'd say they're kind of been party to their country ruining itself with socialism. Great Britain reminds me of like that really sharp guy, you know, in high school or college. Or woman really a go getter dynamic. And then you run into them and they're a useless drunk making all sorts of excuses for why their life went sideways. That's Great Britain.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

And you politely excuse yourself as soon as you can.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two really interesting AI stories. We'll get to an hour. Three. We're also going to talk to Steve Hilton, who is candidate for governor in the state of California and kind of trying to kick off his campaign or something and get that going.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we'll hit him with the latest from Newsom. Diaper Gate, among others.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I love that story. Yes,

[Joe Getty]

diaper indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

1. Which taxpayers are first state of the country to give free diapers to newborns? Parents of newborns. Except for it's way more expensive than if we all just went to the store and bought them.

[Joe Getty]

But my cronies wouldn't give get money if you went to the store. So I launched this scheme. Boy, are they making a lot of money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa. And just wealth redistribution in general. The idea that I'm supposed to buy other people's diapers. If you missed the segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand. Lots on the way.

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