Don't Pee On My Silver Lining!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "Don't Pee On My Silver Lining!"

Episode Date: April 22, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on the mounting chaos of current U.S. and international politics, the state of democracy in America especially regarding gerrymandering, updates on the ongoing war with Iran, and cultural commentary ranging from water snobbery to NBA feats. The tone is classic Armstrong & Getty: irreverent, sharp, occasionally dark-humored, but underpinned by genuine concern for civic life and the sanity of the nation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Earth Day and National Mood (03:16-04:01)

• Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty kick off with sardonic remarks about Earth Day, dismissing it as a "ridiculous and meaningless holiday."
• "But idiots in the media, including me, feel obligated to mention it for some reason."
  — Jack Armstrong [03:28]

2. Iran & U.S. Diplomacy: Confusion, Pressure, and War

• The hosts discuss the latest on U.S.-Iran tensions, including delayed negotiations, internal Iranian discord, and the U.S. strategic posture.

Talks About Talks (04:15-06:48)

• Trump extended a pause in military escalation, reportedly at Pakistan’s request to allow Iranian factions more time to get organized.
• The hosts express frustration with the inconsistent U.S. approach but acknowledge murky realities behind the scenes.
• “We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. ...The intelligence agencies are telling the President about the state of Iran he did truthed out and we'll read it later, that they're weeks from collapse... Why bomb all their infrastructure to dust if they're weeks from collapse is a legitimate question.”
  — Joe Getty [05:33]

The Playoff Analogy; Chaos in Iranian Negotiations (06:11-06:48)

• Jack analogizes Iran’s fractured power structure to a multi-team playoff just to decide who the U.S. is even dealing with.

Economic Leverage and U.S. Strategy (25:23-27:09)

• Citing CNN and Washington Post reports, the hosts note Iran is suffering nearly half a billion dollars a day in economic losses due to the U.S. blockade. This immense pressure is a bargaining chip as talks stall.
• “Iran is losing a half a billion dollars a day by having the Strait closed and that's putting a tremendous amount of pressure on them.”—Joe Getty [25:48]
• “We are stacking our leverage against Iran's regime right now even though there is a pause right now. …Our boot is still on the neck of the Iran regime. They know that our finger's on the trigger.”—CNN Middle East Expert [26:10]

U.S. Munitions and Military Stockpile Worries (30:37-32:36)

• Reports have emerged that the U.S. has used up significant portions of key munitions in the ongoing Iran conflict (e.g., 50% of THAAD interceptors, 45% of precision missiles).
• “That's pretty scary that we got half of a lot of our important stuff if we were to end up in a real war with somebody."
  — Joe Getty [32:04]

The Role of China and peace prospects (29:50-30:37)

• Discussion of possible next steps: resumed peace talks, Chinese diplomatic pressure, or a resumption of attacks. Emphasis that all analysis must account for China as an essential player.

3. Gerrymandering: Virginia, California & Race to the Bottom (06:58-12:24)

• The hosts deplore Virginia's newly redrawn districts, giving Democrats disproportionate representation relative to the popular vote.
• “[Virginia] is now 10 to 1 democrat district to republican district based on barely 50% of the citizens voting for that redistricting. It’s an absolute horror. …It’s just deeply discouraging.”
  — Jack Armstrong [07:47]
• California and Texas cited as further examples; both parties share blame.
• There’s resignation and outrage about the broken state of U.S. democracy.
• “We are teenagers the parents can’t leave at home for a night.”
  — Joe Getty [09:36]
• “We haven’t grown up, we’ve grown down. May God help us.”
  — Jack Armstrong [12:49]
• The only “silver lining” they find is that maybe this egregiousness will finally wake people up—though they’re doubtful.
  (“Don’t pee on my silver lining, sir.” — Jack Armstrong [11:10])

4. Political Theater: Sock Puppets & Senate Antics (13:15-14:15)

• The hosts riff on recent U.S. Senate hearings and grandstanding, focusing on John Kennedy’s performance art-style questioning.
• “Pretty soon he’s Carrot Top and he’s opening up a trunk. Here’s a toilet seat.”
  — Joe Getty [14:06]

5. Headlines & Quick Takes with Katie Green (19:00-22:45)

• Iranian Naval Aggression: Iran’s Revolutionary Guard seizes vessels in the Strait of Hormuz just hours after the U.S. extends a ceasefire [19:00].
• Flu Shots for Troops: U.S. scraps mandatory flu shots for service members [19:40]; hosts express bemusement over politicization.
• Ten Commandments in Classrooms: Fifth Circuit allows Texas to require Ten Commandments displays [20:01].
• Napping as Health Warning: Dismissal of a medical study that says napping could be a health warning (“Shut up. Not you, the study. Mind your own business.” — Joe Getty [20:44]).
• Finnish Penis-Shaped Flight Path: Air force cadets’ juvenile display (“Young men gonna be young men.” — Joe Getty [21:22])
• Water Snobbery: Playful argument about men vs. women being particular about water taste.
• SATIRICAL Babylon Bee: Joking that no one has ever actually liked U2.

6. Listener Mailbag & AI Chatbot Comedy (41:21-44:48)

• Troll letter about Democrats defecting to Iran.
• Pronunciation debates ("Iran" vs. "I-ran"); extended mockery for pedantry.
• Poor AI performance and the limitations of current large language models:
  • "The reality is that this is not an issue or failing on the part of the AI. It’s actually part of its design." — G, the engineer [45:15]

7. NBA Sideline: LeBron James' Greatness (36:20-37:31)

• Lauding LeBron’s playoff achievements at 41, especially playing as lead without top teammates and sharing the court with his son.
• “We do need to take apart his DNA and study it at the university level to figure out how you can be so big, so strong, so durable as a human being.”
  — Jack Armstrong [37:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Gerrymandering:
  “We are all juvenile delinquents who can't be trusted with good things. We can't run our own affairs. We're too partisan and selfish and unpatriotic these days. Something's gotta be done... We are completely ridiculous.”
  — Jack Armstrong [09:12]

• On U.S.-Iran Strategy:
  “It's all incentives and disincentives for various behaviors. And the fact that the economic damage is being done behind the scenes... that's like an enormous pressure point.”
  — Jack Armstrong [27:09]

• On the mood of the country:
  “We haven’t grown up, we’ve grown down. May God help us.”
  — Jack Armstrong [12:49]

• On Senate Grandstanding:
  “Pretty soon he’s Carrot Top and he’s opening up a trunk. Here’s a toilet seat.”
  — Joe Getty [14:06]

• On Napping:
  “There’s nothing better than a nap. Nothing. Go ahead, try.”
  — Joe Getty [20:46]

• On Water Snobbery & Masculinity:
  “If you’re picky about water, you are an effeminate, limp wristed, panty wearing, frilly little man. And I say that without any judgment.”
  — Jack Armstrong [22:17]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:05 — Show kicks off: Earth Day, frivolity
• 04:15 — U.S.-Iran drama: failed negotiations, behind the scenes
• 06:58 — Gerrymandering meltdown in Virginia
• 10:06 — Broken representation & the need for reform
• 13:15 — Senate sock puppet routine
• 19:00 — Katie Green: News headlines block
• 25:23 — Iran war: US leverage, economic damage
• 30:37 — China’s role & US munitions supply warning
• 36:20 — NBA: LeBron James’ resilience
• 41:21 — Listener mailbag: pedantry, AI failures

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Final Thoughts

Armstrong & Getty bring their trademark blend of biting satire and civic alarm to an episode preoccupied with democratic decay, the fog of war, the hazards of political theater, and the everyday weirdness of American life. Both hosts sound exasperated by partisan gamesmanship—whether in war strategy, redistricting, or the culture wars—but find a silver lining in public awareness, however dim. The episode is peppered with humor and quotable moments, balancing doomsaying with wry observation.

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Useful For:
Anyone wanting an engaged, irreverent, and context-rich digest of the day’s big stories and cultural quirks, with an unvarnished sense of political and societal absurdity. Great for catching up if you missed the broadcast.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Lost the phrase that I wanted to use here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Standby live.

[Joe Getty]

Delivering crushing blows beyond imagination of information. It's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, live from Studio C. That was great Seor.

[Joe Getty]

A dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And today we are on a Wednesday. We're toiling under the title of the

[Jack Armstrong]

show There's a winner in the Race to the Bottom, Virginia or Happy Earth Day to you. Happy Earth Day to you.

[Joe Getty]

Today's Earth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. A ridiculous and meaningless quote unquote holiday. That was briefly a thing a while back. For some reason. Yes. But idiots in the media, including me, feel obligated to mention it for some reason. How dare you.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't get a cake for the kids or anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Spherical earth shaped cake. That'd be very cool. You'd have to hold it up on some sort of, I don't know, prop spindle perhaps. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

The Revolutionary Guard vowed today to deliver crushing blows beyond the enemy's imagination.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's where that I can imagine some pretty crushing blows. So that'd be crazy.

[Joe Getty]

And it's beyond your imagination.

[Jack Armstrong]

So super extra crushing. Yeah. Damn it.

[Joe Getty]

Like if a bear attacked you and then you dropped a boulder on them or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

I can imagine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unthinkable. Meanwhile, the. The hammer blow that we were going to administer has been held off again having talks to consider. Talks about having talks.

[Joe Getty]

I. I don't know if I can keep talking about this.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just said what I said and I'll leave it there. This is odd. Very odd. The Pakistanis asked Trump to hold off, would you. We're still working. We're trying to get like a coherent group of Iranians to negotiate with and it just. Let's give it a minute, huh? And he said, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So I feel like it looks weak. But Trump claims Pakistan contact him and said, look, they're not sending anybody. We need more time to figure out who's coming and if they're coming. And Trump said, okay, we'll extend it. Which might be reasonable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or on what he knows about what's happening behind the scenes.

[Joe Getty]

True. And he has.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's back to your frequently stated principle that there are things going on we will not know about for years.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, the idea that the cable news panels sitting around a desk are working with all the information when they make their strong statements is hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. That's a silly conceit.

[Joe Getty]

We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. What the. The intelligence agencies are telling the President about the state of Iran he did. Truth out and we'll read it later. That their weeks from collapse, which there are news reports out there and if that's the case, why bomb all their infrastructure to dust if they're weeks from collapse is a legitimate question. I think so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because we'll have to participate in the rebuilding at enormous expense. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I think it makes a angle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I think it makes it more likely of some sort of crazy civil war or something like that if you have a society with no water and electricity and everything else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the whole Trump pattern of constantly making threats, then walking them back, making promises than walking them back, giving timetables and ignoring his own timetables, it is frustrating and annoying and it does not, not look good at all. At the same time, I, I could believe that. It's, it's almost like, you know, you gotta figure out who you're playing in the next round of the playoffs. There's a play in game. Except in Iran, there's like a three or four team playing tournament to figure out who you're even playing with, slash negotiating with. They've gotta settle that before we get on to the next step. But all that, oh my gosh, chaotic.

[Joe Getty]

And we're sending another aircraft carrier, which is going to be there soon, which probably not doing that for no reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would think not. Who knows?

[Joe Getty]

So, so Virginia voted to redistrict. So that's where we are now. So we're pretty soon every state's going to decide, well, I guess this is just what we do now. And whichever party controls the legislature in that state, you gerrymander out pretty much the entirety of the opposition. Even if it's like California is what, a 60, 40 state? 70, 30. I mean, 40% of your population. That's a landslide win if you're 60, 40, sure, but that's millions of people that deserve to have representation that aren't going to get it in California, aren't going to get it in Virginia, aren't going to get it to the extent they should in Texas because Republicans have done it too. And now, and now we've just decided to, that that's what we're gonna do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just to drive home the point. In Virginia, which is a 6 to 5 state in terms of voting, it is very, very purple. It's currently slightly more Democrat than Republican. Look at it as a 6 to 5 state. It's now 10 to 1 democrat district to republican district based on barely 50% of the citizens voting for that redistricting. It's an absolute horror. It's a race to the bottom. Trump is at fault. Texas is at fault. The Democrats are more than happy to jump in on the, you know, the hog trough of gerrymandering, you know, just garbage. It's just, it's deeply discouraging. Sorry, the, Sorry to discourage you. Deeply. Friends.

[Joe Getty]

It's going to be challenged in the courts in Virginia, I guess, but can't, can't somebody at some point make an argument of taxation without representation,

[Jack Armstrong]

gosh I'd have to dig into that. Maybe. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I've heard that burble up in arguments before, but that, that seems like that that's what's happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

At some point you could absolutely make the case that they have been deliberately denied that representation. I mean, specifically they had the representative taken away. You know, I once read a lot about this and realized it's a little more complicated and difficult than it seems. But the Supreme Court almost has to come down with an 800 pound gorilla of a ruling or, I don't know, order Congress at gunpoint. Can they do that? The Supreme Court, I don't know. To draw up an ironclad statute, maybe even amend the Constitution. All right, here's how we draw districts, period. We are all juvenile delinquents who can't be trusted with good things. We can't run our own affairs. We're too partisan and selfish and unpatriotic these days. Something's gotta be done. We're, or this is just. We are completely ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

We are teenagers. The parents can't leave at home for a night.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, yes. As a people, that hasn't been the case. But now we are that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And it would be pretty clear, I would think just your drawing the lines for a representative has to match up with the demographics. The end. I realized there'd be more details than that. But it's got to get close to that. And right now there's a whole bunch of states that aren't even within a mile of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And we can't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. I think we needed to start with bedrock principles like you're, you know, trying to lay out two or three, two or three of them. Just bedrock principles. Then if we have to get a little more detailed because of. Oh, what about this? All right, great, we'll get a little more detailed. But by God, we've got to start with those bedrock principles because this is ridiculous. A 6 to 5 state becomes a 10 to 1 state when barely 50% of the population votes for the horrors of it just come on.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and that's what California is doing. It was already unfairly drawn. And then they all right to go

[Jack Armstrong]

further, take it to the extreme with the excuse of but Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, right. A friend of mine text yesterday said this race to the bottom, it was after Virginia, the voting came in and it was a close vote. But the race to the bottom, he said the Democrats are going to, at the federal level are going to end the filibuster as soon as they get in charge. So the Republicans might as well do it. And I, I'm not in favor of particip racist about him, but I understand, I understand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. If he's right, I get the point. I hope he's not right. But God knows at this point the, the only silver lining I can come up with in this giant black cloud belching filth under the countryside is that this could be the ultimate. Oh my God, that's wrong. That wakes everybody up. I doubt causes some sort of reaction like I was talking about before. So the pee on my silver lining, sir. I'm trying to find a silver lining.

[Joe Getty]

I bring evidence, not just opinions in that while the Washington Post did have a column over the weekend that said they're being incredibly dishonest in Virginia with their advertising to try to pass this, the bad guys won yesterday in Virginia and a whole bunch of power players in the Democratic Party, including the power player of all, Barack Obama, with a long post. Congratulations, Virginia, on standing up for democracy, blah, blah, blah. For your thing to work where we're all waking up and saying this is too far, you'd need the Barack Obama's the world to say while I blah, blah, blah, I don't appreciate. You know, I don't think we should have this. And that's not where we are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Texas was un American. California is un American. Virginia's un American.

[Joe Getty]

Illinois has been forever. It's a whole all the northeast states. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It's discouraging. It's very discouraging.

[Jack Armstrong]

A republic if you can keep it. And Ben Franklin wept. I'm Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

We are the teenagers parents can't leave at home for even one night. Yes, that's what we are as a country. It's disappointing.

[Jack Armstrong]

We haven't grown up. We've grown down. May God help us. I'm Joe Getty. Still.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. Still. He's still Joe Getty. Okay, let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. On this earth day, Wednesday, April 22, the year 2026. Don't beat a beaver to death with a stick or something. I don't know. We're Armstrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

You get in.

[Joe Getty]

We approve of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's begin officially then, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark.

[Joe Getty]

Professor. What's the sock puppet?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's that thing you stick your hand in.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, kind of like this. Are you going to be the president's human sock puppet Senator?

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely not.

[Joe Getty]

Are you going to be anybody's human sock puppet?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that's the world's greatest deliberative body, the United States Senate.

[Joe Getty]

More fisting references in the Senate yesterday than you usually get. Why does John Kennedy feel like everything he says has got to be some sort of that Cutesy, cutesy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everything's got to be clever. Clever and fun.

[Joe Getty]

Cutesy. What's a sock puppet? Are you gonna be the president's sock? Is this a sock? But did he have a sock puppet there? Did he stick his hand in a sock? No, it sounded like he had a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Brought a prop.

[Joe Getty]

Pretty soon he's Carrot Top and he's opening up a trunk. Here's a toilet seat. You saw the video, Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you gonna be like a frog on a hot roof or more like a cat looking for a fat mouth? What?

[Joe Getty]

You saw the video, Katie. There was no sock.

[Katie Green]

There was no sock. But there. The Kevin Warsh did kind of do an air pump and then realized what he was doing and kind of diverted away from it.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, all right. Want to talk about sports?

[Joe Getty]

Are you gonna make a beeline for the door? And he holds up a giant B. And then. All right, we've got Katie's headlines on the way. I've got something. I meant to get to this the other day, but I keep forgetting there's a new book out, one of the great what ifs of history that got derailed by Monica Lewinsky that's really, really fascinating. And I'll give you a rundown of that back from the Clinton Gingrich days.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something that changed America.

[Joe Getty]

It is. It is the thong that changed America. Well, it's the horn dude. Who couldn't, like, you know, not go there. Who changed America, really? We've got Katie's headlines on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Just right down. Read the WaPo David Ignatius. His piece on Iran today. I think he nails exactly where things are. I have to get to that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay. That's helpful to know a lot of good stuff to squeeze in. A lot of it totally unrelated to politics. Nor war. Just about life. Imagine that. We'll have to get to that. But first let's figure out who's reporting what. It's Lead story with Katie Green. Katie, hit it.

[Katie Green]

Of course, the lead story is war. ABC IRGC says it seized two vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. CNN A third vessel was also targeted by Iran's Navy. The incidents come hours after Trump extended the cease fire. And NBC, an intelligence agency assessment says Iran still has significant military capabilities.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, we'll run down that in a little bit. The numbers that were floating around yesterday of how many roc tickets they have left or this and that, if it's true, highly troubling.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

I always got to take this stuff with a grain of salt because there's so many people out there that seem to be rooting for the iranians. But we can get to that later.

[Katie Green]

Cbs Pete hegseth scraps mandatory flu shots for u. S. Service members.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Is that just a. I don't have any idea whether that was a. A detriment to our fighting forces, the flu shot, or if that was just going along with his co secretary, RFK Jr.

[Katie Green]

From the Washington Post. Fifth Circuit allows Texas to require the Ten Commandments in classrooms.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I didn't read that. I'm. I'm curious to know what the reasoning was.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Texas requires it. It's okay for Texas to require. It was the ruling.

[Joe Getty]

I don't. I'm pro 10 Commandments. I'm pro God, I'm pro all that. I don't know that I want my schools having the ten commandments in the

[Jack Armstrong]

classroom we can discuss.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

USA today study shows that napping may be a warning of health issues in older adults.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, shut up.

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[Joe Getty]

Shut up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not you, the study. Mind your own business.

[Joe Getty]

There's nothing better than a nap. Nothing. Go ahead, try.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sign of a health issue. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Try to come up with something better than a nap. You can't.

[Jack Armstrong]

New York post nap after sex. Maybe that's still a nap.

[Joe Getty]

That's.

[Katie Green]

The New York post. Finnish air force cadets under fire for drawing giant penis shaped flight patterns during training mission.

[Joe Getty]

Young men gonna be young men.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, sure. Come on. Finn's gonna fin. That's what I say.

[Katie Green]

Study finds America's water snobs. 65% of adults admit they're picky about their H2O. Hell yes.

[Joe Getty]

I am a water snob. You are? Well, hell yeah. I'll give you a pass for being a girl. I gotta tell you, I meet a guy who's like, yeah, I don't like the way this water tastes.

[Jack Armstrong]

No respect.

[Joe Getty]

No respect.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. No, no, no. I will not go in a foxhole with you, sir. Is it a woman thing? And. And I have a feeling it's one of those taste perception things because my wife will. Will travel or whatever and she'll be like, oh, this water is kind of off. And I'll be like, what the hell? It's fine.

[Joe Getty]

It's water.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I think maybe she tastes things. I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know, to protect the baby or whatever. That could be.

[Jack Armstrong]

It certainly could be.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Now, men, explain yourselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you're. You're half a woman is the thing. If you're picky about water, you are an effeminate, limp wristed, panty wearing, frilly little man. And I say that without any judgment.

[Joe Getty]

No offense.

[Jack Armstrong]

No offense.

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And finally, the Babylon B study finds no one ever actually liked you two. It's just that everyone thought everyone else did. No one wanted to speak up and make it awkward.

[Joe Getty]

I thought that was really funny. I like YouTube, but I still thought that was really funny.

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[CNN Analyst]

It sounds like this US Blockade is

[Jack Armstrong]

giving the US Tremendous leverage right now.

[CNN Analyst]

We're not hearing about this, but the economic damage to Iran is $435 million a day according to a American researcher, Miyat Nadiki, who has written about this in Foreign Affairs. And this is something that we need to keep in mind. As much as Iran has leverage over the strait, it is a self inflicted wound that is actually working against Iran's own interests.

[Joe Getty]

Appreciate that from cnn. That is an analyst from UCLA saying basically what Trump truth doubt today, that Iran is losing a half a billion dollars a day by having the straight closed and that's putting a tremendous amount of pressure on them. Again, that was on cnn, not Fox. Here's another CNN Middle east expert.

[CNN Middle East Expert]

I think this campaign was designed to have a lot of off ramps on the part of the United States so that Donald Trump can offer diplomacy and he can also reclaim that leverage when he wants to. And I think this pause is exactly that. We are stacking our leverage against Iran's regime right now even though there is a pause right now. We're out of the ceasefire, but now we've extended. He said he wouldn't extend. But at the same time maritime pressure, sanctions remain. Our boot is still on the neck of the Iran regime. They know that our finger's on the trigger. We will start the war again if we have to. And that has been communicated well to them.

[Joe Getty]

Now I picked on purpose some analysts yesterday that thought we're in a decent position or good position right now because there are plenty analysts that say the other. But just because you don't hear a lot of the positive talk. There was a couple on CNN yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mm.

[Joe Getty]

That we are stacking up pressure on them. Iran's losing a ton of money every single day. They can't do this forever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. I think it helps to do view war not as the alternative to diplomacy but part of it. It's all negotiating. It's all incentives and disincentives for various behaviors. And the fact that the, the economic damage is being done behind the scenes that you just referred to, that's like an enormous pressure point. So can we hold off on bombs? Because they certainly have negatives to them while that pressure is being applied. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Joe Getty]

And I like when Trump decides not to bomb the bejesus out of the country, which the left hates. They attack him for not following through on his promise to bomb the bejesus out of the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So, David Ignatius in the Washington Post. I thought this was an interesting phrase that Donald Trump has decided to treat his adversary as a real nation, find out if it's ready to act like one. So that's kind of interesting. Can you guys actually show up with some sort of delegation and negotiate or not?

[Jack Armstrong]

The most interesting clip I think we played this week, and I've repeated it to a couple of friends who found it interesting indeed, is the one where they were talking about the Pakistani intermediaries were spending as much time trying to get the Iranian factions to come to an agreement as they were to get Iran and the United States to come to an agreement. I mean, that's really revealing.

[Joe Getty]

Here's Mark Halpern's analysis based on all the other pieces that are out there today from different people. American optimists believe that time now favors the US Because Iran needs to move oil to keep its infrastructure working and for the revenue. As Trump truthed out today, cops aren't getting paid and all kinds of things are going bad in Iran right now. And that can only last so long right before cops decide, I ain't going to work because I ain't getting paid, and I don't have any reason to think I'm ever going to get paid or anybody else who gets a paycheck. The Iranians are not acting like they need the money. Halperin writes, I believe now that the Iranians divided, are incapable of acting in a decisive manner. That's almost the worst case scenario, because I don't know what happens then. If they're incapable of being a real country, if Trump's going to treat them like a real country and they can act like a real country, I don't know what happens then.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's going to be really tough to deal with, right? Yeah, for a variety of reasons. I mean, because bomb them back to the Stone Age in terms of their weapons capability. Okay, that's good. But then the factions that remain will continue to, you know, hold the Strait of Hormuz hostage and the rest of it that they're doing right now. So, yeah, that's. That's a hornet's nest you can't quite kill.

[Joe Getty]

The next meaningful step is likely one of three things. I think this seems pretty obvious. The resumption of peace talks in Islamabad, a major put this one, I hadn't thought of a major push by The Chinese on Tehran to end the war where China really leans on the Iranians says, okay, it's over, you got to end this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've got more information on China's involvement in this and the effect it's having on them and others later on

[Joe Getty]

or in a renewal of the attacks, which of course is always on the table. And nobody hopes that that's what's going to happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would summarize what I've learned about China with this. Any analysis of what's going on without a at least tip of the cap to what about China? Is an incomplete analysis because they absolutely are a player.

[Joe Getty]

So this came out yesterday, this is a report and Noah Rothman of the National Review retweeted this. He is super into this topic and would not retweet it if he didn't think this was accurate. Approximate estimates of percentage of U.S. munitions expended in the Iran war so far. Oh, 50% of our THAAD interceptors, 50% of our Patriot interceptors, 45% of our precision strike missiles, 30% of our Tomahawk missiles, 20% of our joint air to surface standoff missiles, 20% of our SM3 and SM6, also those kind of missiles. The U.S. military has significantly depleted its stockpile of key missiles during the war with Iran and created near term risk of running out of ammunition in a future conflict should one arise in the next few years. According to three experts and three people familiar with recent internal Pentagon assessments. Not sure that's the sort of thing that should be leaked out to our adversaries, but somebody leaked it out. Maybe they leaked it out because they wanted political pressure to, hey, we gotta

[Jack Armstrong]

rebuild their stockpile, right? Yeah, yeah, both, both sides are right. The whole, hey, we're running through a lot of this and we're very, very slow to replenish or that it's true as part of our post WW2 or post Cold War really fat and lazy period. Yeah, we got armaments. What are we gonna need them for? Yeah, that's over.

[Joe Getty]

That is, that's pretty scary that we got half of a lot of our important stuff if we were to end up in a real war with somebody,

[Jack Armstrong]

especially given Iran's enthusiasm for, and all the developments in Ukraine for the whole. Flood the zone with cheap drones and cheap armaments. The whole, I'm gonna throw a $5,000 armament at you, you're gonna spend $5 million to knock it down. How long do you want to keep this up? I mean, that's the new reality that we have to wake up to in a big hurry.

[Joe Getty]

And then to the argument of how serious are the Iranians about wanting peace. With six hours left in the cease fire deal yesterday, before Trump extended it, the Iranian armed forces brought to the square in Tehran their giant medium range Gadar ballistic missile. Giant? Giant. Like the sort of thing that they used to do in the Soviet Union where they would bring those out to show the world how scary they are. Iran did that yesterday, hours before the end of the ceasefire. That's a pretty belligerent move.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Gosh, it's hard to even use the term Iran, though. What does that mean? The irgc, but probably not the civilian leadership. And God help the people of the country.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. And then the other interesting detail is Britain and France and 30 other countries are meeting today on what can they do to reopen the Strait of Hormuz so that they can start getting their stuff particularly energy flowing again.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I would guess, I hope I'm wrong, but I would guess the leading strategy would be capitulate to Iran. Just do whatever they say.

[Joe Getty]

Well, their leading strategy is let the United States deal with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Although they're so, I mean, I called us fat and comfortable as a country. They are so beyond help. Oh, they're better. All they know is capitulation.

[Joe Getty]

They're. They're grafted to their couches.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, indeed. Well said. Yeah. I mean, to the point that Germany, for the love of all that is delicious and schnitzel and, and, and, and German said. Yeah. All right, we'll just, we'll lay down in front of Vlad Putin and have him build a pipeline. We'll depend on him for our energy, even though we're always saying he's a danger. I don't know what else to do. Europe.

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[Joe Getty]

Anyway, that's an update of where we are today. We didn't mention, we did mention earlier in the hour that Iran fired on. Looks like three different ships. One ship they know Iran fired on, the other two still don't know who fired on it. I'm gonna go out on a Lemons game with Iran. So I think Iran fired on three ships today, and I don't know what they're hoping to gain from that.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow, Michael. Oh, I didn't realize. Michael's the only person on the show, other person on the show that watches the NBA like me. I didn't realize. The Lakers won again last night and that's what Durant back for the sun. So the lakers are up 20 without their two leader scores. It's might be basketball fans are saying, or experts are saying this might be LeBron's greatest achievement he's ever, ever had. If he gets them past the first round at age 41, having to take the lead without their best players because they're hurt and they're up 2 0. And he's had a couple of great games, which is really cool.

[Jack Armstrong]

One for the books.

[Joe Getty]

Playing with his son the other day, he said, I was on the court in a playoff game playing with my son. This is the most amazing thing that's happened in my career. That would be pretty cool. It'd be hard not to enjoy that.

[Jack Armstrong]

We do need to take apart his DNA and study it at the university level to figure out how you can be so big, so strong, so durable as a human being.

[Joe Getty]

I heard an NBA player say the other day that he played with LeBron when he was 15. LeBron was 15, like freshman in high school. He said he easily could have played in the NBA when he was 15.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

What a beast of a human.

[Jack Armstrong]

Strong like bull.

[Joe Getty]

We have got email on the way and a whole bunch of other stuff. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Democratic gubernatorial debate tonight. I love saying the word gubernatorial for some reason. And they're actually going to have a debate. Remember they had. They tried to have a debate a couple weeks ago at USC and somebody canceled it because there weren't enough people of color on the stage, which is so classic California Democrats. Anyway, they're going to have the debate tonight and then we're hoping to have Steve Hilton, who's the guy currently leading in the polls, on Tomorrow, to talk about it. Get out of my shot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will do, sweetheart.

[Joe Getty]

She is a delight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my gosh, the flower of American womanhood, as I often describe her. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day, sent along by Drew the Millennial. I like this one. It's from Dave Chappelle. If you are so angry or passionate about something that you feel the need to police comedy in order to get your point across, then you should reassess your point.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is pretty good. Mailbag. I apologize in advance. Some stuff that I thought printed didn't, so I'm scrambling to organize. Drop us note, would you? [e-mail] you know what you need?

[Joe Getty]

A three ring binder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do I?

[Joe Getty]

Isn't that the best way to get organized? It was when I was in fifth grade.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's certainly a way to get organized. Yes. Antonio writes all the Democrats should defect to Iran so they can hate America with their friends. Allah would be proud. I like that idea. This is from Alan on the pronunciation of Iran.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

The I can be ire, as in irresponsible. Oh, ear. But R A N is ran, not ron, not ren, not rin. Please say ran when you mean ran.

[Joe Getty]

Alan, I got a couple of comments.

[Jack Armstrong]

To you first or for you first

[Joe Getty]

of all, I don't even know what I say. Iran. I guess I say Iran sometimes.

[CNN Analyst]

You do.

[Jack Armstrong]

The entire world, including Iran, pronounces it Iran. Americans in the 1970s got in the habit of pronouncing it Iran in the same way that at first we said Vietnam and that sort of thing. It's fine. It doesn't really matter. There are some people who say Iran or Iran or Iran. The point is you are a pedantic person, like to the extreme because you don't recognize that. I mean, for instance, the entire world, except for you, pronounces it Iran, which again is fine. But for you to, like, correct us when you have no idea what you're talking about. Alan, people don't like you. And it's because you're a pedantic, know it all.

[Joe Getty]

You say you're helping them now, and

[Jack Armstrong]

if you can reign that in a little bit and just think, yeah, different people, different strokes for different folks. It's helped me in my life and it will help you too, Alan, and I wish you the best. Moving along on the topic, soon it

[Joe Getty]

will be a spot on the map where Iran used to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Perhaps. Yes, Here is your meme of the day, sent along by Drew. Jack, you'll love this. It's a man talking to AI holds up a mushroom. Is this mushroom edible? AI says, yes. Next. You're right, that mushroom was poisonous. I'm sorry for the confusion. AI says, speaking to his grave, would you like to learn more about poisonous mushrooms?

[Joe Getty]

I know. I like it when he gets something completely wrong and then it just. It just yada, yada, yadas it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Joe Getty]

I asked you about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I missed that one.

[Joe Getty]

I asked him about a basketball game, says that game did not happen. And I say, yes, it did. It happened. I watched it. Oh, you're right. My bad. Wasn't that a great game?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Actually, if we have time. I'll get to that in a second. But Tommy from New Braunfels, Texas, writes on AI and universal high income. I think you're forgetting about human nature. Well, we never forget about human nature, but I'll read on. You're thinking that all these people living on this high basic income will be living in some modest government housing, when in reality it will be some s hole apartment in another government project. They may be happy getting stoned all day, but that won't last. When the people want more money to go to work and buy more things and live in a nice private home, the people on welfare will get jealous and want what the workers are getting, then vote to steal that from the workers. Is that starting to sound familiar? Thank you for your attention to this matter, Tommy.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if I believe in the whole forcing the government to put guardrails on this stuff thing or not. But if these masters of the universe, Altman and Elon and everybody are going to go around talking about this plan, I think we should, as a population, force them to sit down at a roundtable and explain exactly how this is going to work. Because there's a bunch of details missing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, like one of these, your Senate hearings that aren't a sound bite. You know, just showboat fest. Yeah. A serious discussion of it. I would love that.

[Joe Getty]

There'll be an abundance of giant homes. That doesn't make any sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

It really doesn't.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

How's that going to work? Let's get specific. So, G, the engineer says, want to chime in on something briefly AI related? There have been a number of times on the show that Jack has complained about AI being clueless. Whether it was looking for Marty supreme or the basketball game. The reality is that this is not an issue or failing on the part of the AI. It's actually part of its design. Keep in mind that today's AI is more specifically put in LLM or large language model. These models are trained using large troves of textual dash, be it written works, transcripts or what have you. All this information is commonly referred to as training data. Now to Jack's complaint, the frustration that he that he is feeling stems from what is known as the knowledge cutoff. Basically, the LLM is being asked about specific subjects or events that are outside or simply post date their training data. In other words, the LLM doesn't know anything about Marty supreme because there was no data about the movie included in its training data. Or more simply, the movie came out after the LLMs knowledge cutoff. Same reason it doesn't know about last night's basketball game.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but, but. So like reading James Joyce's Ulysses, I can hit chat GPT with a sentence. I don't even need to say what the book is from. I can say what does this sentence mean? And it'll just jump in and say, that's from James Joyce page blah blah blah blah. And I'm in an instant and I'm like, how in the hell did you figure that out? But then you don't know the basketball game, so I don't. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, because of what G just explained. Yeah, I still think it's limited.

[Joe Getty]

Weak. Google it. Have a way to Google it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. He points out some LLMs have more access to the web than others, which is interesting. Maybe we can discuss that later on Armstrong and Getty.

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