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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
And now here.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Gary, live from Studio C, senor, a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound.
Jack Armstrong
It's Friday, and today we're under the.
Joe Getty
Tutelage of our general manager, the Nobel piece of crap.
Mike Hansen
That's what I say.
Joe Getty
Trump didn't get it. A Nobel piece of crap. You can keep your prize seven up your hours.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, they announced Nobel Peace Prize. It's some chick who's fighting communism or something, whatever.
Joe Getty
Bravely and at risk of her own life every single day. That's right. Yeah. Some incredibly courageous, you know, something or other.
Jack Armstrong
Now, Trump wasn't expecting to win the Nobel Peace Prize this year, was he? I mean.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah. There was an 11th hour, like hardcore.
Jack Armstrong
Press, really, because I would assumed all the voting and all the decision making was done at least a week ago, if not a month ago.
Joe Getty
You know, who chooses the winner? Five Norwegian jackasses. I know I've, you know, why did.
Jack Armstrong
We do a deep dive on this? A couple. Oh, and when Barack Obama won it, I think.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Which was ridiculous and he knew it, but we did a deep dive on the Nobel Peace Prize and, and, and figured out as everybody does that, yeah, it's five Norwegian jackasses. Anybody can be nominated. Like, if you got a friend who works at a university, you can get nominated for the Nobel Peace Press. And I mean, it's like a 25.
Joe Getty
Fee or was at the time.
Jack Armstrong
Congratulations on the guy who invented dynamite and had a bunch of money left over and decided to set up this prize system to try to encourage people to do good science and, and, and, and write good books and, and, you know, work for peace. The. How it got elevated to, like God's own word of what is the best of this is.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know how that happened.
Joe Getty
You know, it's a peculiar aspect of Trump's ego that he really wants the prize to put on the shelf and so he can claim he got it. I heard the, the fabulous historian Neil Ferguson say the other day, really, after high school, you shouldn't be worried about awards. The achievement is the award. You've done it. You don't need some five Norwegian jackasses, according to some sources, to give you a certificate. Come on.
Jack Armstrong
And. Well, for one thing, a year from now, I think this will seem so.
Joe Getty
Far in the distance past, plus all.
Jack Armstrong
Of the, all the Complications will have shown themselves. So it might look completely different. So it'd be tough for him to win next year, I think.
Joe Getty
Yeah. He's made the case that he's intervened in a positive way in quite a number of conflicts. He's kind of exaggerated how many and what effect the US had in some of them. But it wouldn't have been unquestionable. He is on a crusade to stop people slaughtering each other.
Jack Armstrong
It wouldn't have been crazy to give him the Nobel Prize.
Joe Getty
Not at all.
Jack Armstrong
At all. You know, I was thinking about that. People keep talking about the whole. He seems to be, like, really bothered by death in wars and stuff like that. My son was watching the ridiculous movie Primitive War, which, once again, if you have not heard of it, it was in the theaters for like a day, but before they realized, oh, geez, nobody wants to see this, and then they. So they re released it on streaming services.
Joe Getty
I gotta watch it.
Jack Armstrong
It's. It's Apocalypse now meets Jurassic Park. It's a serious Vietnam War movie with dinosaurs.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
And it's. It's so such a ridiculous present.
Joe Getty
Francis Ford Coppola's kicking himself as we speak. I should have had dinosaurs. Marlon Brando and dinosaurs.
Jack Armstrong
And it's got some real actors in it, known actors turning in serious performances. It's like. It's not like Sharknado, where they were.
Joe Getty
Trying to be funny, right?
Jack Armstrong
They're not trying to be funny in this movie. They're trying to be completely serious. You get me those Marines back, you know, who just got eaten by a dinosaur. Anyway, what's my point? Oh, I was watching the movie and I just. I think it's age. I just like the idea of young men dying because they were told to go take that hill. Just is a. So awful to me at this point in my life, regardless whether it's Russians or Americans or whoever. Just the whole premise is so horrible. And I wonder as an old man, if he isn't, you know, in that stage of life where you just. It just seems so awful that it ever has to happen. And he wants to stop these wars wherever he can.
Joe Getty
It takes a little life experience and a little perspective to understand what you are sacrificing. You're sacrificing everything that happens after that age.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah, maybe that's it. Yeah, that. That probably is it. You know, when you're 20 and you, you, you don't care if you find me, I'll die, die by 30 and leave a tan corpse. You know, when you're 20 that doesn sound like the best idea when you're 60. Right, but. So he might be really, really into this idea of stopping wars, but it wouldn't have been a crazy idea to give it to him. But there's a quote I heard a couple times this week. I think it was Tony Blair going off to some Middle east piece, something or other and saying to Bill Clinton, if I won the Nobel Prize, you'll know I failed with the idea that the Nobel Peace Prize has gone to the people for things that didn't work out many, many times.
Joe Getty
Yeah, right, right. Yeah. I think it's just as you indicated. It's just overrated as a thing. It's like the Pulitzer Prize for journalism. It's the woke Pulitzer folks saying, yeah, you argued my point of view real well, so I'm going to give it to you. I mean, there's been some wonderful journalism that's won those prizes, but it's just kind of. It's tainted these days. So just do the good work. The good work is the reward for the good work.
Jack Armstrong
True, but you don't get to put a good work medal on your wall and point to it or on your resume. Does Trump need a resume?
Joe Getty
Well, no, just in general.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, it would look good. It'd be in the first line of his obituary.
Joe Getty
Speaking of Pulitzers. Yeah, that's a good point. First line. My obituary would be overrated. Underachieving radio guy is finally dead.
Jack Armstrong
Finally dead.
Joe Getty
So I don't know who wrote this obituary, but he'll win zero Pulitzers.
Jack Armstrong
Not a friend, obviously.
Joe Getty
You know what? I think the smartest, wisest typewriter tapper in America might be Peggy Noonan.
Jack Armstrong
She is brilliant.
Joe Getty
Currently editorial writer for the Wall Street Journal. Long way to Reagan. Speechwriter, et cetera. Her analysis of the Trump peace deal and Trump and all. It blew away virtually everything else I read. Well, that's overstates it because I read some good stuff. It was. It was uniquely wise. So we'll share that with you.
Jack Armstrong
You have some of that for us? Because I actually haven't read it. I just saw a link to it in. Oh, it's so good. Yeah, so good. Doesn't surprise. Let's start the show officially. That'll give us a little something to talk about. We got clips of the week today. I'm not going to forget it because I've forgotten the last two weeks and I've gotten the buzzer and I've gotten all the harsh criticism that comes with forgetting clips of the week. So we are going to we would.
Joe Getty
Have won a Marconi by now if you weren't so damn forgetful. Probably.
Jack Armstrong
Instead it went to some chick fighting communism.
Joe Getty
Right? Some brave crusader for, I don't know, something.
Jack Armstrong
Starting the show officially, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It's Friday, October 10th, the year 2025, where Armstrong and Yeti and we approve of this program.
Joe Getty
All right, let's go. Officially. Now, according to FCC rules and regulations, the show begins at mark.
Mike Hansen
No balls in a strike. Pajes breaks his back. Kirk Ring gotta find it, throws to the plate. Oh my goodness. He throws it away. And the Dodgers have won. The Dodgers win.
Jack Armstrong
And the.
Mike Hansen
And they are moving on to the nlcs.
Jack Armstrong
And the pitcher stands there with his hands on his knees, staring at the.
Joe Getty
Ground, trying to sink into the ground, never be seen again.
Jack Armstrong
So that's good hands. And so it's the bottom of the 11th inning, bases loaded elimination game to go to the league championship series. I mean, it's high drama. And the pitcher makes the sort of error I make playing little league baseball. And all your play. The other players look at you like, how did you do that, Jack? Good lord, why are you on my team? Baseball player did it.
Joe Getty
Little peek behind the scenes. Michelangelo is off. Executive producer Mike Hansen is running the board. He is on the microphone.
Mike Hansen
Hanson, throw them on the first.
Jack Armstrong
Mike Hansen, actual, actual little league coach.
Joe Getty
And I a longtime baseball coach. If a 12 year old made that mistake, you shake your head and you think, all right, we gotta keep working on that stuff. 14 year old makes that mistake, or 16 year old, you'd think, come on, we've gone over this. The plays at one major leaguer does that. You're thinking, I guess I'll go play golf. That's what you're thinking, because your season is over.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that was something. And he, you know, he was the best player on his little league team as a kid and then his high school team and the best player on his college team and been in the major leagues for a long time. And then he does that.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
What I would like to know is. And a lot of it was cool because in team sports you should have the attitude is we wouldn't lose as a team and blah blah, blah, all that for real. But man, all the players that came over to try to, you know, say it's okay or whatever, but the, the manager really grabbed him, talked him for a long time. Did you see that?
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
When he was going into the tunnel, I would look, I thought was cool. I Would love to know what he said to him because he talked to.
Joe Getty
Him for quite a while.
Jack Armstrong
Did he say to him, look, I think you're going to become. You remember Billy Buckner? I think you're going to become a household name. They're going to be a lot of memes. If I hear you, I'd kill myself.
Joe Getty
Stay off the Internet, probably forever.
Jack Armstrong
Get a new job. Change your name. Grow a fake Mustach.
Joe Getty
Listen, there are a lot of jobs in H Vac these days. The trades are hot.
Jack Armstrong
But you probably. It's over for you. Everything you've ever cared about is over. Is that what he said?
Joe Getty
Coach a college, well, high school team.
Jack Armstrong
But they're going to bring it up all the time. Even as a coach in the high school team, every player, every, every year, the new freshman's gonna say, what was it like that one time when you.
Joe Getty
Made the most embarrassing play anybody ever.
Jack Armstrong
Seen on national television?
Joe Getty
Son, I got a question for you. If John Wilkes Booth was still alive, how often do you think they'd ask him about acting? Never is the answer. Never. It'd be shooting Lincoln. This is your shooting Lincoln. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, he must not have known there was two outs or forgot there was two outs or who knows?
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, well, as, as not only a former baseball player, but, but a pitcher, you are so close to home plate and you have a force out anywhere, it's easy to forget that the guy on third was poised like a sprinter halfway up the line to come home. The batter was screwing himself into the batter's box trying to hit wall. He's still standing there. You've got all day to throw to first. But the temptation, look, home place right there. It's such a short play.
Jack Armstrong
It was a. Well, and it was a terrible throw. So, I mean, not only was it the wrong place, but it was, you know, the catcher couldn't catch it.
Joe Getty
Well, he, he rushed it because he had to rush it. But enough baseball talk probably.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I didn't want to make a baseball talk. I wanted to make it failing in life talk, which anybody can relate to. I mean, just a huge, huge giant. Oh, my God, how did I make this mistake? How am I going to live with this? How am I going to forget that I did this?
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
It's a two foot putt to win the Masters scenario. Although, you know, they weren't necessarily going to win, but they would have stayed alive anyway. Poor kid.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what you could relate it to in other life. Like, I don't know, you didn't get the paperwork in on a giant business deal time or something. I don't know what but right. That is rough. That is rough. We get to have clips of the week. We got headlines from Katie Green coming up. We got the text. I'm wearing a Dodgers hat today.
Joe Getty
Here you go. I got there. I got the right metaphor for you. You've just closed a zillion dollar deal with a real hard assed businessman and you text your boss what an a hole this guy is. But you accidentally text the client that's a good one. And lose the deal.
Jack Armstrong
Woman says she'll marry you.
Joe Getty
Yes. Gorgeous gal.
Jack Armstrong
Charming. As long as you're on time for dinner tonight and you get the a.m. p.m. Wrong on your alarm clock.
Joe Getty
Rookie mistake.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, we gotta take a break. Stay here.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
Remember how I ended up in the ER from drinking too much coffee a couple months ago I got to. I gotta watch that today. I'm kind of. Kind of hitting the coffee heavy. Kind of getting wound tight here. Gonna take her down a notch. Yeah, I'll end up there. And the. All the things turned on my chest and my head and then measuring my heart.
Joe Getty
Deep breaths or breathe into a bag or something.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Katie Porter
Katie, I just don't understand why you continue to drink too much coffee.
Jack Armstrong
It's like being an alcoholic. It's. It factors into being an alcoholic. Why do you keep drinking when you're already hammered drunk?
Katie Porter
Fair enough. Wondered that myself.
Joe Getty
I can still remember one of my problems. All right, let's figure out who's reporting what it's the leading story with the sober Katie Green.
Katie Porter
Katie, from ABC News. Ceasefire is in effect as IDF repositions.
Jack Armstrong
So one of the most amazing parts of the agreement is is Israel pulling out Gaza. Nobody would have ever suspected that that was going to be, you know, sort of thing that they would get an agreement on.
Joe Getty
Yeah. With a force to replace them. And they're pulling out notch by notch too. It's worth remembering.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, and I don't know if you, if I'm stealing your headline, but this is one of the biggest headlines of the day. We're taking, we're sending a couple of hundred U.S. troops. Couple hundred U.S. troops. I mean, that is so anti maga ish. I can't even imagine. I haven't heard any blowback or seen any blowback though on it.
Joe Getty
Yeah, they're non combat support roles allegedly. But more on that to come. But you're right, that's a huge headline.
Katie Porter
From NBC News, Trump to get semiannual physical after previous checkup back in spring.
Jack Armstrong
I just saw him sitting at the desk there in the Oval Office talking to reporters. I feel great. Feel great. I'm headed over there now to get checked. And then we'll get the hilarious results of height and weight that don't seem to match up with his physique and.
Joe Getty
The statement that he is the healthiest man of his age ever. He's healthier than most 23 year old Olympic athletes, etc.
Katie Porter
From the Wall Street Journal, Americans are falling behind on their car payments.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, we are going to dive deep into this. It's like record setting, falling behind all time record setting.
Joe Getty
It is troubling. It's weird that we have a population that is completely self indulgent to the point of spending itself into oblivion and a government that's just the same.
Katie Porter
From the New York Post, Florida man stole $7,000 in scratch off lottery tickets and then returned to the same store to redeem them just hours later.
Jack Armstrong
That's a guy with a good plan. That is a well thought out plan, sir.
Katie Porter
From study finds runny noses, black toenails and quote corgasms 7 weird ailments that can be triggered by exercise.
Jack Armstrong
I'd like to know what a corgasm is. We're gonna have to look into that. We'll get to that story later. That sounds like a Good Friday story.
Joe Getty
Oh boy.
Katie Porter
And finally from the Babylon Bee, Trump broker's historic peace deal between Yankees and Red Sox fans.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, good luck with that.
Joe Getty
Might be a little harder than what he's engaged in right now. So I'll bring you Peggy Noonan's fabulous perspective on the peace deal coming up in a few minutes and we'll figure.
Jack Armstrong
Out what a corgasm is. Yeah, a couple hundred US troops to Gaza. That's, that's, that is amazing that that has slipped in the last 24 hours and I haven't heard what the JD Vance crowd thinks of that, but we'll talk more about that later. A lot of good stuff. If you missed a segment, get the.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh my God. I was just reading an amazing article about AI in the New York Times, which includes one of the top AI scientists in the world, who's a professor at some university who can't sleep at night currently so convinced AI is going to destroy humankind, his close friend and collaborator who happens to work for Meta, says that's gonna be great. And they're friends and both study the same thing and anyway, more on that later.
Joe Getty
Good Lord. Yeah, I have a great, great deal to say on that topic, but I will remain disciplined for once and move on. We have that fabulous Peggy Noonan analysis of the Trump the Israel, Hamas peace deal. But first, it's time to take a fond look back at the week that was It's Cow Clips of the Week.
Mike Hansen
It's Clips of the Week.
Joe Getty
Who we are N I am doing.
Jack Armstrong
The super bowl halftime show.
Joe Getty
I wanted you to know that I'm.
Not dying and I'm not ready to die yet.
Katie Porter
No, you're disrespectful, you're entitled, and you're.
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Joe Getty
King James highly anticipated announcement turned out.
Jack Armstrong
To be an ad.
Joe Getty
Sanchez again advanced towards the driver saying the driver thought, this guy's trying to kill me.
Both Israel and Hamas have signed on.
To the first phase of his 20 point peace plan.
The world has come together around this deal. It's gonna be a different world.
Mike Hansen
What do you guys have to say to President Trump?
Joe Getty
Thank you.
Mike Hansen
Thank you.
Joe Getty
Gotta start working out and put the bottle down. Cause I really wanna see how this all plays out.
Jack Armstrong
I love it that we need at least 50% of the Palestinian government to be trans women.
Joe Getty
Antifa is real.
Jack Armstrong
I took this flag from that. From that man that was burning it in the street.
Joe Getty
Do you know? Give it to the attorney general and let's start prosecutions.
Senator, I don't think a lot of people like that. You were out protesting with Antifa.
Your vehicle driven by Border Patrol agents was allegedly rammed and boxed in by two cars.
One of the things I've been dealing with all day here in Portland is a bunch of pansies.
Jack Armstrong
So when this person's committing six or seven crimes, I don't know his or her story. Maybe they were abused as a child. Maybe they're hungry.
Joe Getty
This is the most stupid thing I think I've ever witnessed. Witnessed in Washington D.C. you're a complete and total embarrassment. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
You're embarrassing yourself in your district right now. So I am anxious to administer the odor.
Katie Porter
Jay Jones sent texts that imagined shooting the Republican speaker of the House.
Joe Getty
Can you tell me why my phone.
Records when I'm the chairman of the Judiciary Committee were sought by the Jack Smith agents?
What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win who voted for Trump? How would I need them in order to win, ma'?
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Joe Getty
Well, to those voters. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
So. So you.
Joe Getty
I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you.
And the state could lose.
Jack Armstrong
Get out of my shot of the week.
Joe Getty
Hey now that's too many things that have happened this week. I hereby declare need fewer things to happen. I would say three a day. Four if the fourth one is fun. Four things can happen per day and that's enough.
Jack Armstrong
But it's a week that Katie Porter woman would like to try again.
Joe Getty
Get out of my shot. I'm not in your shot. You anyway.
Jack Armstrong
She has got to be one of those people that has hundreds of persons in her wake rooting for her to fail because she has made them so angry.
Joe Getty
Correct? Correct. We could philosophize on that, but we don't really have time. Let's see the other aside I was going to make. I can wait. So, my two favorite analyses of the the peace deal. First one comes from a trio of reporters in the Wall Street Journal who, who really highlight the fact that forever the tradition has been your lower level guys, your diplomats work for weeks, months, years to iron out differences behind the scenes, getting way, way, way into the weeds and the. And only when that is hashed out do the leaders swoop in and say we have a deal. And Trump did it upside down. He said, you agree to the basics, right? You agree to the basics, right? We have an agreement. We're gonna hash out the details. But if anybody flakes, I'm gonna kill you. In essence, that's a gross oversimplification of the pressures he could exert as the President of the United States. But that's essentially the way it went. And it's, it's, you know, you'll get paywalled. I'd put the link up, but, but I'm not sure you can get to it. But it's great analysis. It's a very different way to do things. It's very Real estate developer ish. But my fave of all I heard.
Jack Armstrong
Somebody saying yesterday about how it was an advantage that he doesn't come with any ideological baggage of like really being invested in the Palestinian cause if you're on that side or you know, Christendom being saved along with Judeo, blah, blah. He has none of that.
Joe Getty
It's just making a deal with all.
Jack Armstrong
Of that extraneous stuff not involved.
Joe Getty
I actually heard somebody who I really like and respect talking, but they come at a lot of this from an academic background and we're mentioning all sorts of paradigms and structural analyses and theories of governmental organization and interaction and the rest of it. Sometimes that stuff helps, sometimes it's just academic claptrap in my opinion anyway. So Peggy Noonan with a great piece in the Journal. I'm gonna skip over a bunch of it and summarize it for you. First of all, she says, give Trump your applause fully. She has a wink at how Trumpian his announcement was that it was a big, big day, a beautiful day, potentially one of the greatest days ever in civilization. And it is funny. She describes the multi part peace plan. She says here, any reliable pundit would counsel caution. It could all fall apart. My joy may be premature. All true, but I'll take my joy premature. Bartender. She makes the point that you've been making we haven't come this close in forever, really. And then she talks about the Barnum Bailey aspect of the Trump administration. Not the chaos, but like the color, the human non gray academic feel to it. Talks about Trump's support. But then she gets to the part I really like. I want to pay tribute to the wonderful creative insanity Donald Trump can display on the international front. At moments when the Mideast is blowing up, American presidents always begin to ape the language, preoccupations and granular knowledge of the regional experts, some of whom follow from White House to White House. It's always into the weeds with them. The settler issue may complicate the loan guarantee schedule if the 67 lines are even retrievable. It was all opaque and meaningless and meant to be. That isn't what Mr. Trump did in this crisis. He look, the whole complicated picture, the long history, the writing etched on the stones of the oldest archaeological sites and said, that's fabulous beachfront property going to waste. We can build a luxury resort with hotels, casinos, beaches, a slide for the kids. And she says, decorous bordellos with golden stairways. Actually what he said in February was that Gaza could be the Riviera of the Middle East. It has the best weather, etc. Generated those AI pictures that we all chuckled at. But a few days later, Peggy writes, I saw a friend who knows his foreign affairs and he said, do you believe the idiocy of this guy? And I surprised him. I kind of liked it. I think I love it, I said, because it was absurdist. And here's the part Peggy Nunes is so smart because it was absurdist. It changed the picture you have in your head. It was a reorienting thought. The world knows it's ridiculous and yet, yeah, that land would come cheap and it could be a gold mine. Gold mine. It was so Trumpian. He thinks everything can be a big building with his name on it. But in his insane way he was saying, imagine it differently. And for a second you did. The region is full of greedy, grasping men on all sides. They feel more secure in their palaces when their people are employed. And an 18 year old boy on the street would think, I'd like to not live in a sand hole, but wear a tuxedo in a casino with girls in sequins walking by. Can't we rely on simple human vice for progress anymore?
Jack Armstrong
I'd like to not live in a sand hole.
Joe Getty
Yes, here is something the world needs more of. It comes from the old parable of the prisoners in the cell and it has many variations. A handful of prisoners are chained to a wall in a room, and only one of them can see through the window, high up. Instead of saying the truth, there's nothing out there, just air, he describes for his cellmates beautiful scenes, people strolling on the street, a pretty girl. The sun is shining. He dies. A new prisoner is dragged in and put in his chains. He can see the window, and they ask, what's outside today. He almost speaks, looks at them, realizes everything. He has a job. Give them something to live for. He looks out the window and says, there's a parade and a great princess is walking by in all her finery. It isn't bad to give people something to live for. And she says, I close with the special force of the idiotic idea. Sometimes in life, you're an idiot. You make the investment based on insufficient data because you got a feeling in your gut, you marry the guy you met three days ago. Sometimes you go broke and tell your funny story about the importance of due diligence to young investors. Sometimes you tell your story about the Elvis Chapel In Vegas, your 38th anniversary as your grandchildren eat chocolate cake. It isn't the worst thing to have a good story to tell. And some do end well.
Jack Armstrong
That's a great.
Joe Getty
But I really, really like that part about, how about we just chuck everything and reimagine what this area could be?
Jack Armstrong
I'll bet Donald Trump doesn't even know what you're talking about when you talk about the 67 lines. I'll bet he has no concept of.
Joe Getty
That and doesn't care.
Jack Armstrong
And doesn't care, says, what difference would that make? What's that got to do with any.
Joe Getty
Right. Right. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the Balfour Declaration. What are you even talking about?
Joe Getty
It's an odd person to quote, and I hesitate to even mention who I heard say this. It was Donald Rumsfeld, who had some good ideas and some bad ideas and some good ideas he implemented horrifically. But he said something really interesting. When you have an intractable problem, make it bigger. And that's what Trump did. And Jared Kushner and I don't know what Steve Witkoff's actual involvement was, but his team, Trump's team, they looked at the Israel, Hamas thing, Gaza, October 7, and they made the problem bigger. The whole Middle east is screwed up. You have these forces and these forces. What if we could get all of them to agree on precept. Who do we have to punch in the mouth and who do we have to bribe? And they went to work.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And as we were talking about yesterday, one of his greatest strengths is he doesn't care what anybody thinks. And one of his biggest, you know, things that holds him back is he doesn't care what anybody thinks. But they're pointing out this morning on MSNBC the amazing thing that was him going to Middle east and visiting all those Arab countries and not going to Israel. How many times do you hear is the first time a US President has gone to the Middle east and not visited Israel? He went to all those Arab countries, met with all those people talking about this stuff, apparently, and skipped Israel. He didn't care that no president had ever done that before. The detractors say that is a bad look. He didn't care.
Joe Getty
It signals blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. A few weeks later, a few days later, nobody cared. And. Yeah, right. And he reached out to Bibi if he thought it was necessary, and obviously things worked out fine.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the point was it made all those Arab leaders think, okay, he's serious about trying to, you know, figure out our end of the deal.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Absolutely true. And this all follows on the heels of his courageous, for some reason, finally saying, yeah, the capital of Israel is Jerusalem. Of course it is.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Shocking. Earth shaking. Oh, my God. President setting. Every president has said it, but nobody would let them do it. And Trump said, what the hell are we doing here?
Jack Armstrong
That's a good one. Quick, before we take a break, just because you brought it up, I've been watching the Tucker Carlson nine documentary in five parts. I'm two parts in. Anyway, it's got some Rumsfeld clips on it, and I've always wondered why people mock the Donald Rumsfeld moment where he talked about, there are known unknowns, there are unknown unknowns, and it's always mocked. And I think that's a brilliant way to look at things.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Why is that mocked, silly or simplified or something? I don't know why that is. It has been since the day.
Joe Getty
Sounds like a word game of some sort. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know either. That's a great way to look at life or problems. Yeah. We got known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I don't know why that's a problem. Anyway, we got Mailbag on the way. Bunch of other stuff. Stay here.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Apply so I know what job I.
Joe Getty
Would like to have.
Jack Armstrong
If I were smarter, I'd like to be an AI jailbreaker. I was just reading about that in in the Times. That would be a cool job. We'll explain that in our two really interesting AI story. Also, I've been reading Katie's thing. She brought us earlier runny noses, black toenails and core gasms. Weird ailments that can be triggered by exercising.
Joe Getty
Runny nose. I'm familiar with black toenails I'd rather not have. But the third one is the intriguing.
Jack Armstrong
Well, there's a couple others that I won't even say right now. Rough, rough things that can happen when you're exercising.
Joe Getty
Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. It's from Gina, Jenny Rumetti, whoever that is. And it doesn't really matter. Continuing or finishing up our series on change. I like this one. Growth and comfort do not coexist. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
That is. I like a lot of these, but the the want to write them down and carry them in my pocket are few and far between. I want to write that one down and carry it in my pocket.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Say it again.
Joe Getty
Growth and comfort do not coexist. So true.
Jack Armstrong
Pain.
Joe Getty
That's how you end up with black fingernails and toenails in the the gym.
Jack Armstrong
I'm familiar with this phrase. Pain is the touch tone of spiritual growth. It's a very similar thing.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Comfort does not go along with growth. That's a good one.
Joe Getty
More or less. Yes. Mailbag, drop us a note mailbagarmstrongetti.com Here's a note from David. If I'm arrested in California and Sam female, I go to female prison. If I say I'm a furry, do I go to A kennel. Let's see.
Jack Armstrong
All right. I don't know if you want to be in a kennel with a bunch of pitbull puppies.
Joe Getty
Then he says, jack the kid cooking breakfast thing is not that amazing. Getting them to clean up would be the amazing thing. Took me five years to get them to at least put the dishes in the sink. Another two to the dishwasher.
Jack Armstrong
That's from the One More Thing podcast the other day. If you didn't hear it, you should be listening to that on a regular basis. That doesn't air on the radio show.
Joe Getty
Right? We have plenty of serious stuff about the Middle East. Maybe we'll carve out a part of the show to read your your thoughts on that later. But, but sticking with the more light hearted stuff here, what about the protesters? Barry from Thailand writes very concerned. What will Greta Thunberg do with her life now that her two principal causes are in the dustbin? Let us pray for this lovable little muppet.
Jack Armstrong
Poor girl. I have nothing but compassion for the whirlwind she got tossed into.
Joe Getty
Yeah, she is obnoxious, but she has some incredibly good excuses for being obnoxious.
Jack Armstrong
Well, she was an upset that kid with autistic kid. Autistic kid and, and then, you know, the world grabbed hold of her. And then that could happen to anybody.
Joe Getty
With activist progressive parents who thought yes, people are paying attention to her because she's cute and young. Let's trot her out. Moving along. Republicans suck at messaging. Right? Steve from ever Washington Always true. Democrats unanimously chose to raise rates on Obamacare at the end of this year. They chose the sunset date. They did. Which explicitly stated in the Inflation reduction act of 2022, blah blah blah. So when Schumer, Durbin and crazy Maisie from Hawaii caterwaul about the rates going up, Republicans should. Republicans should remind the American public that Democrats unanimously chose it to play out this way. The commercials write themselves.
Jack Armstrong
Why are Republicans so bad at pushing back on like your Sunday talk shows? They're terrible at it. Always have been.
Joe Getty
I don't know. They feel like they have to explain everything, like using the words and approaches of the host as opposed to saying no, you've got this completely wrong. It's backwards. It's the opposite of what you're claiming. Moving along Number of emails on Nasty nasty Katie Porter of California Guys, I'm down here in Orange County. Behind the Orange Curtain where Katie Porter was is my former representative because of the incident with her ex husband, she's affectionately known here as Mrs. Potato Head. Ah.
Jack Armstrong
All right. Don't sit on me.
Joe Getty
Margaret writes, I must correct your references and pronunciation to Katie, who is running for governor of California. It's Katie Porker, not Porter. No, that is childish and wrong. That's. Even if you're a woman, Margaret. There's no.
Jack Armstrong
That's a shot at her physique, and I didn't. Don't approve of that.
Joe Getty
My, my, my.
Jack Armstrong
Don't sit on me had nothing to do with that.
Joe Getty
Wow. Once again, I must disavow what the co host has said here. I disavow.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well, she brought it on herself. What an. What an unappealing human being. We have a lot in our two. If you miss any of it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
This is an I Heart podcast.
Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer/Guests: Mike Hansen, Katie Green (news), Katie Porter (briefly featured)
In "Don't Sit On Me!", Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty tackle a wide array of topics ranging from the credibility and meaning of the Nobel Peace Prize (with a special nod to Donald Trump's latest ambitions), to current headlines—including a pivotal Middle East peace deal, AI fears, celebrity gaffes, and a viral baseball blunder. The episode is characteristically irreverent, mixing sharp commentary with their signature humor, while also including thought-provoking analysis, notably an in-depth discussion of Peggy Noonan’s take on Trump’s Middle East strategy. The hosts also reflect on failure, resilience, and the peculiarities of fame and recognition.
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[34:24–35:10]
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On the Nobel Peace Prize:
"You know who chooses the winner? Five Norwegian jackasses."
— Joe Getty [01:31]
On seeking recognition as an adult:
“Really, after high school, you shouldn’t be worried about awards. The achievement is the award.”
— Quoting Niall Ferguson, via Joe Getty [02:31]
On failure and resilience:
"If John Wilkes Booth was still alive, how often do you think they'd ask him about acting? Never is the answer. Never. It'd be shooting Lincoln. This is your shooting Lincoln. Okay."
— Joe Getty [11:13]
Peggy Noonan (read by Joe):
“Because it was absurdist. It changed the picture you have in your head. It was a reorienting thought…In his insane way he was saying, imagine it differently.”
— Joe Getty reading Peggy Noonan [27:16]
On growth and risk:
“Growth and comfort do not coexist.”
— Quoted by Joe Getty [34:39]
The episode is high-energy, irreverent, and often sarcastic, mixing serious analysis with comedic asides and barbed commentary. Armstrong and Getty favor quick, witty exchanges, often lampooning media, politics, and even themselves, while occasionally pausing for genuine insight—especially around the psychological roots of current events and public discourse.
This summary provides all the major themes and insights from this Armstrong & Getty episode—balancing satire, skepticism, and sharp commentary on awards, political process, leadership style, failure, and hope. Not only will you find their take on the day's news, but also their reflections on the quirks of humanity—both in the headlines and behind the scenes.