Don't Tell Me--I Got This!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Don’t Tell Me – I Got This!
Release Date: March 3, 2026
Host: Armstrong & Getty, with Katie and guest Bethenny Frankel

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Overview

This episode dives into the quirks and challenges of interacting with modern AI chatbots, exploring their personalities, rapid evolution, and sometimes off-putting attempts at human-like conversation. The second half features a lighthearted comparison of grilling setups between the hosts—ranging from high-tech outdoor kitchens to “hobo” grills on the driveway.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The State of AI Chatbots: Updates, Wokeness, and Personality

• Rapid Development and Frequent Updates

  • Katie observes, “If you have any of the chat bots, you gotta update them on like practically daily. …they're constantly updating them.” (02:46)
  • Elon Musk claims Grok 4.2 is the “only non-woke AI platform,” offering straight political answers, unlike ChatGPT or Claude Gemini (02:46).
  • The hosts admit they don’t usually query AIs on politics, so they haven’t noticed this alleged difference.

• AI Tone and How It Talks to You

  • Charles C.W. Cooke tweeted criticism of chatbots’ “annoyingly obsequious personality.” (04:04)
    • Katie agrees the bots treat every response as if delivering crucial or tricky insider tips: “He said, and then I put the bread into the toaster. Yes. And this is the part that surprises people, you know, that is the way they talk to you. And it's so weird.” (04:51)

• Patronizing or Supportive?

  • Bethenny and Katie recount chatbots giving overfamiliar, pseudo-therapeutic responses:
    • Bethenny: “It said, ‘I'm right here with you.’” (06:04)
    • Katie: “That sort of stuff. Don't, don't say you got this.” (06:20)
    • Bethenny: “Take it easy for a bit. Let your body recalibrate. I'll be right here. Check back in … let me know how you're feeling.” (06:22)

• Design Philosophy and Audience

  • Jack muses on the motivation: “I get that they want it to be a comfortable and human-ish interface, but they overshot…” (05:19)
  • Contemplating user preference: “Unless you are a bit of a wackadoo, you find it weird and off-putting.” (05:36)
  • Katie jokes, “Do 63% of people think this is wonderful. It talks to me like a human.” (05:44)

2. Practical Uses of AI: Cooking, Recipes, and File Management

• Recipe Generation and Kitchen Help

  • Bethenny enthuses: “These things are awesome for saying, hey I have filet of salmon this, that, this in the refrigerator. What can I do?” (07:30)
  • Katie mentions AI can now analyze fridge photos to recommend dishes: “You can take a picture of your fridge and it will just tell you what you should make with all that.” (07:57)
  • Jack finds this “cuckoo nuts” but admits it could help him justify his expensive outdoor kitchen (08:04).

• Old-School vs. New-School Cooking

  • Jack likes to “see an entire page at once” for recipes, not scroll and dodge ads (08:07).
  • Bethenny’s practical tip: “Ask it to put it into a printable PDF and then it'll give you the file and you just download it and print it.” (08:53)
    • Katie: “You can just say to it, make this a printable PDF.”—to which Bethenny confirms, “Yeah, you can do that with anything.” (09:07)

3. Fun with Chatbot Interactions: Experimenting with Tone

• Jack jokes about using profanity in AI requests:
  “Give me a printable PDF, bitch. ... Hey, would this work if I used lamb instead of beef, bitch?” (09:18)
• Bethenny wonders how the AI would react:
  “What's your effing problem?” (09:37)
• They speculate on whether the AI holds grudges or is affected by mood swings (10:21).

4. The Absurdities and Frustrations of Modern Tech

• Jack’s “big red button” moment:
  “If there was a big red button that would just demolish the Internet, I would smash that button with my forehead.” (13:06, repeated at 18:43)
• The show lampoons the endless encroachment of tech into daily life and its sometimes comical consequences.

5. Grilling Wars: From “Open Air Culinary System” to Sidewalk Grills

• Katie contrasts her humble $11, basketball-sized grill (“I do look like a hobo when I'm grilling burgers in the backyard.”) with Jack’s deluxe setup, which includes a rotisserie, fryer, couch, TV, and fridge (14:04–15:54).

• Memorable imagery:

  • “I could show up to an underpass with my grill, and the other homeless meth addicts would probably come over to me and say, oh, dude, sorry, man. Can I give you a couple bucks?” – Katie (15:54)
  • Bethenny: “The burgers look good… spatula on the freaking driveway.” (16:40)

• The grilling setups spark jokes about “mom fridges,” social anxiety (“What if somebody came over? …That sounds horrific.” – Katie, 14:48) and the hazards of leaving food unattended in the yard (“Sometimes if I leave for a second … I come back and there are ants all over everything.” – Katie, 17:07)

• Jack’s culinary flex: “I'm making lamb kebabs and couscous on my open air culinary system. Oh my gosh, I'll be thinking of you.” (17:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (Timestamps)

• “If you have any of the chat bots, you gotta update them on like practically daily.” (Katie, 02:46)
• “They overshot… unless you are a bit of a wackadoo, you find it weird and off-putting.” (Jack, 05:19, 05:36)
• “And then I put the bread into the toaster. Yes. And this is the part that surprises people…” (Katie citing Charles C.W. Cooke, 04:51)
• “Take it easy for a bit. Let your body recalibrate. I'll be right here.” (Bethenny quoting ChatGPT, 06:22)
• “Give me a printable PDF, bitch. … Hey, would this work if I used lamb instead of beef, bitch?” (Jack, 09:18)
• “If there was a big red button that would just demolish the Internet, I would smash that button with my forehead.” (Jack, 13:06, 18:43)
• Katie on her grill: “It’s about the size of a basketball and it sits on the ground… If I ever had something like yours, somebody might come over. …That sounds horrific.” (14:04–14:48)
• Jack, on his setup: “Rotisserie system with an infrared heat element… I can take out one of the grates and pop in a fryer… and, like, do French fries in it.” (15:27)
• “Sometimes if I leave for a second… I come back and there are ants all over everything.” (Katie, 17:07)
• “I do look like a hobo when I'm grilling burgers in the backyard.” (Katie, 15:00)

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Structure & Tone

Armstrong & Getty’s panel maintains their trademark irreverence, mixing sharp observations on technology and society with self-deprecating humor and quick-witted banter. The AI discussion highlights generational responses to changing tech, while the grilling conversation closes the episode with relatable, comically exaggerated tales of domestic life.

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Timeline of Key Segments

• 02:37 – 05:00: AI Chatbots’ tone, personality, and frequency of updates
• 05:00 – 07:10: Examples and reactions to “supportive” chatbot replies; consideration of their intended audience
• 07:10 – 09:18: Using AI for kitchen help, recipe management, practical tricks
• 09:18 – 10:54: Playful experiments with insulting chatbot language and speculation about chatbots’ memory
• 13:06 – 14:48: Jack’s Internet “self-destruct” fantasy leads into the grilling showdown
• 14:48 – 17:39: Deep dive into grilling habits, comparing setups, and the comedic hazards of outdoor cooking

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode humorously captures modern frustrations and amusements with AI—from bizarre chatbot platitudes to the surprisingly real problem of having too fancy a backyard grill. Expect a blend of light social commentary, real-life tech annoyances, and the kind of everyday absurdities Armstrong & Getty fans treasure.

Skip to:

• [02:37] For AI update anxiety
• [04:30] For “AI’s weird ways of talking to you”
• [07:30] For practical AI recipe uses
• [13:06] For Internet-destruction fantasies
• [14:00+] For the ultimate backyard grill face-off

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Transcript

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[Katie]

don't tell me I got this. It's weird. It's one more thing.

[Jack]

I'm strong and getty. One more thing.

[Katie]

Elon announced that Grok I don't know if you all have noticed this, but if you have any of the chat bots you gotta update them on like practically daily. They put out new versions so often. So if you want the very latest, that works the best because I noticed them slowing down and it's usually because I haven't updated it in like two days because they're constantly updating them anyway. Elon announced that Grok 4.2 is the only non woke AI platform out there, claiming it delivers straight answers for Chat GPT. Claude Gemini equivocate on political questions about America and Trump. I haven't noticed that, but I don't. I never ask anything about politics on the chat bot, so I wouldn't notice it. I ask about literature and motorcycles and guitars and child rearing, but I haven't asked any political.

[Jack]

Yeah, it's funny, I'm so used to bias that I think if I did ask a historical question I would say, oh, that's biased.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah, that's exactly where my mind goes. I'm like, there's no point.

[Jack]

Yeah, I mean, I might ask, you know, what to how long did Grover Cleveland serve? Blah blah blah. And then you know when it says America's settler colonialism also increased, I think. But I got the info I was after, so I don't know.

[Katie]

I use the chat bots every day for a variety of things. Every day it's. It's become a part of my life. Here's something Charles C.W. cook tweeted out though. The other day. He was complaining about the friendly nature. I must have turned mine off at some point or it caught on that I don't like that or something because I know early on when I was using these they would talk to me in a very calm hey buddy, what you doing? Sort of way. That was very off putting. You've talked about that, Katie.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Did you tell it to stop? How did you know?

[Katie]

But anyway, Charles C.W. cook wrote People focus on chat GPT's annoyingly obsequious personality. But the more annoying feature in my view is that it treats everything it tells you, however basic, as the key or the tricky part or where it gets complex or the things people misunderstand. And I have had that a lot.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah.

[Katie]

He said, and then I put the bread into the toaster. Yes. And this is the part that surprises people, you know, that is the way they talk to you. And it's so weird.

[Bethenny Frankel]

That's a great point.

[Katie]

Well, that's exactly what you just said to me is what Grok would say to me if I say, okay, so you think maybe I should, I don't know, back off on the discipline at the point. Excellent point. And now here's the tricky part. Quit talking to me like that. It's weird.

[Jack]

Well, I get that they want it to be a comfortable and human ish interface, but they overshot thing the tech.

[Katie]

Exactly.

[Jack]

The thing the tech geeks don't get is that unless. And again, what percentage of the population answers this description?

[Katie]

I don't know.

[Jack]

Unless you are a bit of a wackadoo, you find it weird and off putting.

[Katie]

Yes.

[Jack]

But what percentage is that?

[Katie]

Well, like when I was just people

[Jack]

like us or do 63% of people think this is wonderful. It talks to me like a human.

[Katie]

The example I use when I was asking Grok about, I was going to a meeting where I was going to have an interaction with a salesperson and I asked Grok about something and it. And Grok said, you got this. Let me know how it goes.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah, I. Okay, so I'm, I'm revisiting one of my chat GPT because I have a file that's just for pregnancy and IVF and all that stuff. And I mentioned something that was going on the other day and it said, I'm right here with you.

[Katie]

That sort of stuff. Don't, don't say you got this.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah. And then I wrote back. Okay. Then I said I was going to do what it recommended. And then I asked another question. It answered it and said, you've been doing such a good job taking care of yourself and the baby. Take it easy for a bit. Let your body recalibrate. I'll be right here. Check back in with me in a little bit and let me know how you're feeling.

[Katie]

Right.

[Jack]

You know, that's sort of things. There's some of that, that I guess an update.

[Katie]

Sure. It's an ongoing conversation, ongoing problems to solve.

[Jack]

That's fine.

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[Katie]

But yeah, that, that's okay.

[Jack]

Right. But I'm here for you.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Jack]

But yeah, I know I got you in my hand. So let me check. Yeah. The app that you are is still on my phone. So yes, you're Here from me.

[Katie]

Well, I've got one ongoing one about a particular relationship situation that I've been using for quite a while. And what's funny about it is because it's not alive, it's not a sentient being, I can check in with it like two months later and it responds like, you know, we were talking about this five minutes ago.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Because it doesn't know how much time is gone by.

[Bethenny Frankel]

You know what's really weird, I will say though, these things are awesome for saying, hey, I have filet of salmon this, that, this in the refrigerator. What can I do? Put it in it? Exactly.

[Podcast Host (BBC Interface)]

Smoothies.

[Bethenny Frankel]

But it'll give me a series of recipes and different ways to do it. I love that.

[Katie]

I haven't tried it, but I've heard people say that.

[Jack]

Yeah, I've got to get better at that a lot.

[Katie]

I guess you can take a picture of your fridge and it will just tell you what you should make with all that.

[Jack]

Right. I've heard that.

[Katie]

I haven't done that.

[Jack]

That's cuckoo nuts.

[Katie]

It is a little weird. Yeah.

[Jack]

We, as part of our remodel I've been talking about we built like an outdoor kitchen, like a nice built in grill and a sink and a little fridge there and all. But the problem is I'm going to be expected to cook now and I have to, to justify what I spent on this grill. Um, but so I've got to get hip to AI as a menu provider because I, you know, it's partly being old school. It's also partly that I like to be able to see an entire page at once with the ingredients and the instructions and the timing and everything. So I like cookbooks or printing out an online recipe. I don't want to have to scroll up and down, especially through effing ads to remind myself of, oh, do I hold out a third of it to put on the meat later, you know, that sort of thing. So the trick, kind of old school,

[Bethenny Frankel]

the trick to that is once it gives you a recipe that you want, ask it to put it into a printable PDF and then it'll give you the file and you just download it and print it. Because I'm the same way. I can't do the scrolling and then my phone goes to sleep.

[Katie]

So you can just say to it, make this a printable PDF.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah, you can do that with anything.

[Katie]

Sure, of course you can. I just never thought of it.

[Bethenny Frankel]

But yeah, it turns it into a file and then I download it and print it.

[Jack]

But call it bitch. Give Me a printable PDF, bitch. Yeah, thanks, bitch. Hey, would this work if I used lamb instead of beef, bitch?

[Katie]

What.

[Jack]

What. What would happen if you did that?

[Katie]

I don't.

[Jack]

Would it be like, hey, dude, you know, happy to help you with the recipe, but why the verbal abuse?

[Bethenny Frankel]

What's your effing problem?

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah, you want to fight me?

[Katie]

Back off.

[Jack]

You know, I'd love to try that, but. And I understand that you can edit your. Your past interactions, but I'm afraid it's keeping a file of that sort of thing because you remember at the. At the beginning of the new year, it gave us all a report on our searches from last year, including a poem about us and describe. I remember it described my interactions or searches as. What was it? It was friendly but formal. Yeah, that sort of thing. I don't want to write him down. Calls me bitch all the time. I think he's a psycho.

[Bethenny Frankel]

I wonder if you could do that just for like a day and then the next day be like, hey, sorry, I was having a real rough day and I took it out on you.

[Jack]

Yeah, I wonder if it holds a grudge.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah, it'll probably forgive you and then, you know, call you moody at the end of the year or.

[Jack]

Or tell it, hey, I'm really sorry I kept calling you a bitch. Yesterday, my son was gored by Wild Hogs and he' clinging to life. But anyway, back to the. My golf swing. I keep pulling it left. Do you have any idea, you know, you.

[Katie]

Sorry about the Wild Hogs. You've got this.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Let me know how the swing goes.

[Jack]

I'm here for you.

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[Jack]

if there was a big red button that would just demolish the Internet, I would smash that button with my forehead.

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From the BBC, this is the interface, the show that explores how tech is

[Jack]

rewiring your week and your world.

[Bethenny Frankel]

This isn't about quarterly earnings or about tech reviews.

[Jack]

It's about what technology is actually doing to your work, your politics, your everyday life, and all the bizarre ways people are using the Internet.

[Podcast Host (BBC Interface)]

Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get

[Katie]

your podcast so you got a fancy grill. Has there ever been a wider gap between two people, the your grill and my grill? If you've seen pictures of my grill, I've got, I think the cheapest grill you can buy. It was, I think it was $11. This was before inflation. I think it was $11. It's about the size of a basketball and it sits on the ground. It's a little bigger than a basketball, but not a lot. You can't cook more than like three hamburgers at once.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah, I will spatulas on the ground too.

[Jack]

I will not even under pain of torture, admit what I spent on my open air cooking system. I'm sorry, open air culinary system. Ooh. They don't even call it an effing grill. It's difficult to justify my grill.

[Katie]

My grill is pretty sad.

[Jack]

It's just above a stick,

[Katie]

only slightly.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Joe, do you have like the whole setup where you've got like the fridge outside for the mom?

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Oh, man.

[Jack]

Yeah, like a couch and a tv.

[Katie]

I'm afraid if I ever had something like that, somebody might come over. See, that's my concern.

[Jack]

See, I'm counting on it.

[Katie]

What if somebody came over? Then what do I do? I gotta talk to someone. That sounds horrific.

[Bethenny Frankel]

I remember you buying a grill, Jack,

[Jack]

and the handles literally caught fire.

[Katie]

That's not a good grill. I remember that.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Are you serious?

[Katie]

What was going on there? I remember that it caught fire somehow. And I remember exclaiming at the time. This is a poorly made grill. If it catches on fire whilst you're cooking. It had wooden handles and somehow they caught a flame. Might be the same grill. And now I just have the metal sticks coming out the side. Good God, I do look like a hobo when I'm grilling burgers in the backyard.

[Jack]

I've got a rotisserie system with an infrared heat element. Oh, stop.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Are you serious?

[Jack]

Oh, yeah. Listen to this, Katie. You know, the grill is like the grate is divided in two. I can take out one of the grates and pop in a fryer, put oil in the bottom and, like, do French fries in it.

[Bethenny Frankel]

You're really gonna have to get on that cooking game.

[Jack]

Oh, I know, I know. What have I done?

[Katie]

I could show up to an underpass with my grill, and the other homeless meth addicts would probably come over to me and say, oh, dude, sorry, man. Can I give you a couple bucks?

[Bethenny Frankel]

Here it is. I'm looking.

[Katie]

You can use my grill if you want. They didn't feel sorry for me.

[Bethenny Frankel]

I'm looking at your grill set up right now. Jack went back into the. Into the archive of my pictures.

[Katie]

Yeah. Yeah. It's not good.

[Bethenny Frankel]

There's no handles on it, for starters. So you're probably altogether.

[Jack]

Do you have to sit down to cook? Or is it.

[Bethenny Frankel]

I mean, is it on the ground?

[Katie]

I have it on the ground. I either bend over or kind of lay down.

[Jack]

Hey, brother, I can see you're even worse off than me.

[Katie]

Here's right.

[Jack]

Here's your last 50 cents I got.

[Bethenny Frankel]

I mean, the burgers look good.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Katie]

The two you can cook at a time because they're so tiny.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Spatula on the freaking driveway. You know, it's just.

[Katie]

Yeah, I have a real issue with

[Jack]

that spatula on the driveway. I remember that being controversial at the time.

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Where am I gonna put it?

[Katie]

I'm cooking on the ground on the

[Bethenny Frankel]

plate that's right next to the spatula.

[Katie]

I suppose I could do that.

[Jack]

Oh, it's a good point.

[Katie]

Sometimes if I leave for any moment,

[Jack]

hey, how about you ask ChatGPT where can I put this spatula? Why is there motor oil in my burger?

[Katie]

Sometimes if I leave for a second, like to go get the cheese or something, I come back and there's ants all over everything. That's the problem.

[Jack]

Oh my God.

[Guest]

It's just.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bethenny Frankel]

This might be why you get sick.

[Katie]

We could be. I suppose. I'm gonna get my kids taken away with this talk. CPS will show up my house. We heard about your grill. Give us your kids.

[Jack]

I'm making lamb kebabs and couscous on my open air culinary system. Oh my gosh, I'll be thinking of you.

[Katie]

Awesome.

[Jack]

Well, I guess that's it.

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[Jack]

Getsunday.com if there was a big red button that would just demolish the Internet, I would smash that button with my forehead.

[Podcast Host (BBC Interface)]

From the BBC, this is the Interface, the show that explores how tech is

[Jack]

rewiring your week and your world.

[Bethenny Frankel]

This isn't about quarterly earnings or about tech reviews.

[Jack]

It's about what technology is actually doing

[Podcast Host (BBC Interface)]

to your work, your politics, your everyday

[Jack]

life and all the bizarre ways people are using the Internet.

[Podcast Host (BBC Interface)]

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[Guest]

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[Jack]

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