Dress Like A Man You Preee-vert!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand – “Dress Like A Man You Preee-vert!”

Date: April 23, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Guest: Lanhee Chen (Hoover Institution, Stanford University)

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Overview

This episode pivots around several core themes:

• Government bailouts and intervention in private industry, focusing on the proposed Spirit Airlines bailout
• Controversies around the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) reauthorization
• California political landscape and reflections on candidacies
• Rising media bias and questionable media practices
• Technology advancements in AI (robots in table tennis)
• Turmoil and strategic maneuvering in U.S.-Iran relations
• Shifts in campus culture, with a deep dive into student funding for identity-based groups at Stanford
• Broader trends such as the decline of reading and the transformation of university environments.

Throughout the episode, Armstrong, Getty, and guest Lanhee Chen mix insight, sharp commentary, and their signature irreverent, sometimes sardonic humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Spirit Airlines Bailout – Government Ownership

[02:44 – 06:44]

• News breaks that the Trump administration is considering a $500 million bailout for Spirit Airlines, potentially giving the government warrants for up to 90% ownership.
• Joe Getty: “So we taxpayers are going to run a sucky airline better than the professionals could on their own and turn it profitable somehow.” (03:14)
• Conservative senators (Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton) are vocally opposed.
• Lanhee Chen: (Stanford, Hoover) is deeply critical of the idea.
  • “I'm not sure that the government is well equipped to run an airline...it's not a good idea for the federal government in particular to muck around in owning private companies.” (04:05)
  • Compares the proposal to China’s "golden shares": “That is the hallmark of a control command economy. And that's not what we have in the United States.” (04:29)
  • Stresses government ownership is fundamentally economically unsound, regardless of which industry or company is involved.
• Hosts ponder the constitutionality of the plan but Chen focuses on economic rationale over legal analysis.
  • Lanhee Chen: “From an economic policy perspective, it is not a good idea.” (06:44)

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2. FISA Reauthorization – Civil Liberties vs. Security

[06:44 – 09:44]

• The hosts and Lanhee Chen discuss the renewal debate of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), especially Section 702 concerning tech provider cooperation.
• The law’s initial intent was counter-terrorism, but abuse and overreach are concerns.
• Chen:
  • “One of the most controversial things is whether the government can compel tech providers...to turn over communications data of foreigners...who they believe have information related to terrorism or other national security threats.” (07:20)
  • “There is a lot of controversy over whether the law should be extended or whether it should be reformed.” (08:00)
  • He supports tight reforms, especially around warrants, but insists “FISA is an important law. I do want to see it reauthorized...” (08:45)
  • Stresses absolute clarity about protecting Americans from undue surveillance.

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3. California Politics & Chen’s Reflections

[09:57 – 14:16]

• Joe and Jack praise Lanhee Chen for his 2022 run, where he garnered more GOP votes in California than DeSantis did in Florida.
• Disillusionment with the Democratic field, specifically poking fun at Javier Becerra grading Gavin Newsom an “A” on homelessness.
• Jack Armstrong: “Is there any context anywhere where we give people grades for effort? And by the way, he doesn’t even get an A for effort…” (11:49)
• The field is described as "unserious," with Joe noting Eric Swalwell “was the leading light in that crowd.” (12:16)
• Chen alludes to suspicion around timing of Swalwell’s "downfall," jesting about the machinations of California politics. (14:09)

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4. China & The Upcoming Trump–Xi Summit

[14:17 – 15:40]

• Lanhee Chen:
  • “There’s no more important relationship the US has than with China.”
  • Notes China’s economic troubles and questions what the US might give up in exchange for a deal. (14:25)
  • Frames the summit as “a really, really significant and seminal event in world politics.” (15:31)
• Hosts pledge to revisit post-summit.

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5. AI Progress—Robot Table Tennis

[19:20 – 21:47]

• Discussion of Sony’s robot "Ace" defeating top table tennis players.
• Emphasizes the transition from pure programming to reinforcement learning, i.e., the robot learning by experience, not instruction.
• Jack:
  • “[The robot] learned through simulation and reinforcement learning rather than being hand programmed for every move…It was learning on its own how to react to various shots. This worked when I did this; it didn’t work when I did that. So next time I will adjust…” (20:18)
• Joe notes this means it could be deployed in countless scenarios — battlefield, warehouses, etc., raising questions about future AI capabilities.

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6. Updates on Iran – Tanker Clashes & US Strategy

[26:38 – 30:37]

• Coverage of Iran’s publicized seizures of international cargo ships, with staged video reels for propaganda.
• US responded by seizing Iranian oil shipments globally.
• Joe Getty:
  • Critiques media (WSJ) for framing as a “crippling limbo between war and peace” instead of a clear, escalating US strategy to economically strangle Iran. (29:13-30:03)
• Armstrong sums up: “One combatant lives in a grocery store and the other is down to its last box of crackers. It’s not a standoff at all.” (30:03)

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7. Media Bias & The NYT Bestseller List

[31:03 – 33:43]

• “Ridiculously blatant media bias of the day” segment:
  • Exposes Ad Fontes Media, which advises colleges on media trustworthiness, but rates left-wing sources as “more reliable” and employs staff with ties to Iranian state media.
  • The NYT adds Gavin Newsom’s memoir to its bestsellers list despite bulk sales—something it docked Republicans like Ted Cruz for.
  • Joe: “But when the Democrats do it, no, it’s just people’s legitimate interest in Gavin Newsman.” (33:23)

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8. The Death of Reading

[36:20 – 37:41]

• Jack laments long-form literacy’s decline, suggesting the era of books is a “blip” in human history likely to fade in coming decades.
  • “It really does seem…that the literacy age in terms of…reading books is just gonna go away.” (36:20)
• Both discuss personal journeys with reading; Jack discovered it late, regrets its waning popularity.

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9. Stanford Student Funding – Priorities in Campus Culture

[41:15 – 46:34]

• Stanford gives five times more to its campus drag troupe ($50,000) than to the undergraduate veterans association ($10,000); also, more funding for furries than for the Republican club.
• Noteworthy recipients include a $175k grant for the Muslim Student Union.
• Joe Getty: “Furries got more than the Stanford Republican [Club].” (43:39)
• Armstrong questions, “What ARE they getting money to do?” as the drag group mostly hosts performances and a Drag Fest for “drag and queerness.” (43:31-44:34)
• Raises concerns about double standards, frivolous grants, and whether campus funding reflects real priorities.
• Name of the episode gets mentioned:
  • Joe Getty: “Dress like a man, you preevert.” (46:31)

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Notable Quotes

| Time | Speaker | Quote | |----------|--------------|-------| | 04:05 | Lanhee Chen | "I'm not sure that the government is well equipped to run an airline…it's not a good idea for the federal government in particular to muck around in owning private companies." | | 11:49 | Armstrong | "His answer on homelessness was, you know, I give him an A for effort. And I thought to myself, is there any context anywhere where we give people grades for effort?" | | 14:25 | Lanhee Chen | "There's no more important relationship the US has than with China. I mean that from the perspective of global stability, but also an economic perspective as well." | | 20:18 | Jack | "[The robot] learned through simulation and reinforcement learning rather than being hand programmed for every move…It was learning on its own how to react to various shots." | | 30:03 | Joe Getty | "One combatant lives in a grocery store and the other is down to its last box of crackers. It’s not a standoff at all." | | 33:23 | Joe Getty | "But when the Democrats do it, no, it’s just people’s legitimate interest in Gavin Newsman." | | 36:20 | Jack | "It really does seem…that the literacy age in terms of…reading books is just gonna go away." | | 43:39 | Joe Getty | "Furries got more than the Stanford Republican." | | 46:31 | Joe Getty | "Dress like a man, you preevert." |

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Memorable Moments

• Multiple jabs at California’s “machine politics,” the unseriousness of the political field, and Newsom’s homelessness crisis grade.
• Joe Getty’s mock solution for retirement: haunting bookstores and berating buyers of dumb books. (34:15)
• The hosts’ exasperation over the bizarre logic—and funding priorities—at institutions like Stanford.

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Topic | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------| | 02:44 | Spirit Airlines bailout controversy begins | | 06:44 | FISA law explanation and debate | | 09:57 | Lanhee Chen on his California candidacy | | 14:17 | Trump–Xi summit and US-China relations | | 19:20 | Robot "Ace" beats human table tennis champions | | 26:38 | Update on Iran's maritime and missile posturing | | 31:03 | Media bias: Ad Fontes and NYT bestseller list | | 36:20 | Societal decline in reading | | 41:15 | Stanford funding for campus drag troupe, veterans, etc. | | 46:31 | “Dress like a man, you preevert!” |

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Tone & Style

Armstrong & Getty keep the discussion irreverent, skeptical, and briskly paced, mixing earnest policy critique with satirical asides and deadpan comedic exchanges. Their outsider take on establishment politics, bureaucracy, and cultural trends defines the episode’s tone.

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For an episode that jumps effortlessly from government bailouts to the future of reading, with pit stops at campus drag, Iranian strategy, and robot ping pong, this A&G outing is classic: wry, sharp, and in tune with America’s absurdities.

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

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The Trump administration is in advanced discussions with Spirit Airlines over a bailout worth up to $500 million, staving off the twice bankrupt carrier's liquidation and keeping its planes flying.

[A]

In exchange, the government would get warrants

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to purchase up to 90% of an airline that hasn't made a profit since 2019 and projects it will lose nearly $200 million this year, a CBS News data review found.

[A]

When an ultra low cost carrier like Spirit exits a route, fares tend to increase.

[G]

So we taxpayers are going to run a sucky airline better than the professionals could on their own and turn it profitable somehow. Ted Cruz called it an absolutely terrible idea. Tom Cotton said taxpayers should not be running an airline. A number of other prominent conservatives have come out against Trump's idea.

[D]

Well, if only we had a recognized expert in domestic policy studies. We do, actually. Lon Hee Chen, who's the director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University and the David and Diane Steffey Fellow in American Public Policy Studies at the Hoover Institution. And he joins us now. Lan. He. How are you, sir?

[A]

I'm doing well. Great to be back with you guys again.

[G]

We don't need to be on this topic very long, but where are you on taxpayers bailing out a bad airline

[D]

and just the whole buying up shares of corporations, whether it's in video or whatever, that the Trump administration's been doing?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, this makes me very uncomfortable because you guys hit the nail on the head, which is I'm not sure that the government is well equipped to run an airline. I think we've actually played this experiment out before. If you recall, there was a period of time where, you know, we saw heavier government involvement in the aviation industry, and it tended to lead to higher prices and sort of worse customer service.

[G]

Shocking.

[A]

And I, you know, I tend to think that the people who run the DMV may not be best equipped to run airlines. I mean, you know, call me, call me a cynic, but look, I think more broadly, the bigger issue we have is that there is this mindset that, that has pervaded this administration in some ways, whether it's on the intel deal or on other things that they propose. The Spirit Airlines thing is the latest. It's just not, it's not a good idea for the federal government in particular to muck around in owning private companies. This is what they do in China, by the way. They have something called golden shares. And the concept of the golden share, in part is that the government can come in and make important decisions about what the company does. And that is the hallmark of a control command economy. And that's not what we have in the United States. So I just think that this idea is not, it does not strike me as a good one, and I hope it doesn't go through well.

[D]

And I find myself wondering, though, is this unconstitutional? It's more than unwise, the idea that the United States government becomes a gigantic holding company of private industry.

[A]

Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, I think it's, I'M not sure about the constitutionality of it, but I will say that from an economic perspective, from an economic policy perspective, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And by the way, I would say the same thing if it weren't an airline that was Spirit, right? I mean, Spirit Airlines is not exactly the paragon of fine customer service in the air, but I would say that about a well run airline, that in any of these situations, the idea that the government can come in and somehow improve the condition of an airline or condition of an industry by getting involved. It's the same reason why I posed, for example, the government getting more involved in our healthcare markets. Right. The idea that government would come in and have a plan that competes with private providers. That's why I'm against that too. It's the same principle, but applied across industries. And I don't think the airline industry is all that different, quite frankly. So yeah, the constitutionality is a great question, but I'll just tell you, from an economic policy perspective, it is not a good idea.

[D]

So speaking of policy, we originally called you last week hoping you could come on during the hearings over renewing the FISA laws. And I was super intrigued because I hadn't done a ton of reading about it, the current battle. But I noticed a lot of folks I respect on Capitol Hill said we've got to get this renewed. It's an incredibly important tool. And then a lot of folks I respect were saying there have been way too many abuse. We can't let this go. Unreformed thoughts, perspectives on what's fisa? Well, right, let's see. Yeah, we can start there. What's that all about?

[A]

Well, this is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance act and the law is set to expire, I think it's April 30th. It's coming up very soon in any case. And it is a law that essentially allows for the US government to engage in various forms of surveillance, spying on Americans. One of the most controversial things is whether the government can compel tech providers, US tech providers, to basically turn over communications data of foreigners. That's at least what the law provides for who they believe have information related to terrorism or other national security threats. So this was actually a post 911 kind of creation along with a few other things. And the concept was, look, we need to figure out a way to beef up our surveillance and our intelligence of particularly of foreign nationals in the US and so there's been some debate, for example, about you guys have alluded to it. Has the law been abused to actually spy or surveil U.S. persons. And that could be U.S. citizens, it could be people with a permanent residency status, it could be other US Persons under the law. Or have tech companies, for example, been forced to turn over information on citizens or on others who technically don't fall under the ambit of the law. So there is a lot of controversy over whether the law should be extended or whether it should be reformed. I tend to think, broadly speaking, there are a couple of areas, particularly around what tech providers need to turn over. Do they need a warrant? This is one example, for example, of a question of a reform that we might look at for the law is do we need to have stricter requirements around when warrants are required in order to get access to this kind of information? So I personally think that FISA is an important law. I do want to see it reauthorized. I do think that what I would prefer is for them to really look at some of these areas, like this thing called section 702 that allows the government to compel these tech providers to turn over this data to make sure we're absolutely clear when a warrant is and is not required and to make absolutely certain that U.S. persons, including U.S. citizens, are not subject to the surveillance the law would, Would. Would want them to. To be for foreign nationals. So there's some areas where I think we could tighten it up.

[D]

Although if Johnny Jihad calls Jack here three times in a week, you know, the government takes an interest in that and, you know, where do we go from there is one of the touchy questions.

[A]

Yeah, they should for sure. Yeah.

[G]

So you ran for office fairly recently in California, and in that election you

[A]

got more, believe it or not.

[G]

What's that?

[A]

Yeah, it's been four years.

[G]

Has it really been that long?

[A]

Wow. Yeah, it feels like recently, but yeah,

[G]

it's been four years, but you got more votes than any Republican in the entire United States. Was there any part of you that considered running for governor, looking at the people on stage last night?

[A]

Yeah, of course. I mean, you know, you look at the relative unseriousness of the people up there, particularly I thought the, you know, the several Democratic candidates who, some of whom have gotten a lot of publicity recently, like Javier Becerra, we could talk about his performance last night, but sure, I mean, look, we've got serious problems in the state of California and what it was going to take to solve them is not a bunch of talking points. And unfortunately, what we heard last night was a lot more of the same. Why didn't you Run, but I think it's exceedingly difficult. I mean, look, I have the realistic experience of having tried to run in the state as a Republican oriented towards solving problems. And, you know, it was still, I was still about a million votes short in that election in 2022. So I just want to be realistic about it. And I didn't, I didn't think this cycle was going to produce the outcome I wanted, which is ultimately to win and to be able to govern. So that's really what it came down. But, but, but I, you know, I applaud people who have stepped up to run and I think it's, you know, I think it's good they're doing it. But, boy, that debate last night was really dismal in my view. Not in terms of the. I was going to say not in the debate. I actually thought that the journalists did a fair job of trying to hold the candidates accountable, but the actual candidates themselves were pretty abysmal.

[G]

The fact that Javier Becerra gave Gavin Newsom an A for handling homelessness, oh, it's nuts.

[D]

Hilarious.

[G]

Hilarious.

[A]

His answer on homelessness was, you know, I give him an A for effort. And I thought to myself, is there any context anywhere where we give people grades for effort? And by the way, he doesn't even get an A for effort in my. If you look at the nature of the, if you, if you look at what's happening throughout our state, it's shameful to stand there and say that the governor gets an A for anything. Oh my God, absolutely shameful.

[D]

It's machine politics at its worst. For those not familiar with the history of Lonhi's candidacy, he was endorsed by every major newspaper in the state, including the leftiest of lefties, and ended up losing to a hack with a D next to their name. My words, not yours, Lonhi. And your description of the field and the debate stage last night, it occurs to me, I mean, the only reason any of these people have a chance is because that paragon of good governance that modern Abraham Lincoln, Eric Swalwell, had to drop out. He was. I mean, you talk about, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king or the smartest horse. Eric Swalwell was the leading light in that crowd. Good God, yeah.

[A]

I mean, it is intriguing that of his down and I don't know if you talked about.

[D]

Oh, oh, you're breaking up, you're breaking up. See if you can reestablish connection there, Michael. It's terrible, terrible. Cut it off, cut it off. Thank you.

[G]

Stop. We don't want to miss out on any delicious Swalwell bashing. We're about out of time anyway.

[D]

Why don't we take a break and see if we can.

[G]

It's interesting. You know, I can understand what his thinking is, but when he ran four years ago, Lonhi, our friend Lonhi got more Republican votes than even DeSantis got in Florida with his dominating win to get reelected as governor.

[D]

Right, right.

[G]

Lon, he.

[D]

When we broke up, I think you were about to make a pithy comment about the great Eric Swalwell, perhaps.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, maybe people are listening and they didn't want me to make my comment, but basically what I was going to say is like, the timing of his downfall to me is always a little bit suspicious because a lot of were known, were known, were known. And it's like, how, how horrible would it be if he was the one who advanced in the top two with a Republican and all of this were to break in the general election.

[G]

Right.

[A]

And God forbid if we were to elect a Republican governor of the state. I mean, that's that. Call me a little suspicious, but I thought the timing was interesting.

[G]

Ye, of course.

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Hey, I know you're interested in the upcoming Trump Xi summit. We barely got like, two minutes, but what's your take on that?

[A]

I think that there's no more important relationship the US has than with China. And I mean that from the perspective of global stability, but also an economic perspective as well. And so I'm just really interested to see what the President's posture is going to be going into this thing. I mean, she is a thug, and the way he's run China is as a complete autocrat. And if you look at the Chinese economy, it's not doing nearly as well as people had expected it would be. There's a lot of things that are happening in China that I think are sort of causing issues with his leadership. But I'm very, very curious to see what the President ends up doing, how he approaches this summit. Obviously, the President's goal is to come out with some kind of an economic arrangement, but I think there are questions. For example, what does that mean in terms of what the trade off is going to be? Right. What are we going to be willing to give up in order to get some of this economic benefit from China? So I am watching this closely because it is, I think, a really, really significant and seminal event in world politics. And it comes at a time when obviously we've got the situation in Iran. There's a lot of things going on in the world, but it's easy to lose sight of the fact that this meeting is coming up, I think, in early May, and it's going to be a really, really significant get together for the two leaders of the world.

[G]

We'll keep our eye on that and

[D]

we'll talk again when it happens. Lon Hee Chen of the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. Great to talk to you. Lon he stay in touch.

[A]

Yeah. Thanks guys.

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Coming up, now that robots can beat

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President Trump signed an executive order over the weekend to expedite medical research into psychedelic drugs that can be used to

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So it's interesting he signed that law about that drug that Joe Rogan's into. And then today Trump signed the moving marijuana from a downgrading it to a much lesser drug. Is he just doing what he thinks is right or is he trying to get a certain young crowd to back him in the upcoming midterms as he starts to lose support in various other sectors? I don't know.

[D]

Well, he's so anti drug.

[G]

Yeah, he definitely.

[D]

I'd be surprised if it's the latter.

[G]

That's a good point. Mentioned earlier that an AI robot was able to beat some of your elite tennis players, challenge them, and in some cases beat them. And this is really notable as I was reading more about it, the robot named Ace, a table tennis robot built by Sony that challenged and beat some top players this month using multiple cameras that can track the ball. I mean, you've seen, you've seen like elite table tennis. I mean, you can barely see the ball. So with all the cameras, this robot was able to see the ball and react with like, you know, a minuscule delay into how to swing the paddle, the angle to have the paddle at, how hard to hit it, all that different sort of stuff. And researchers said, and this is the important part, it learned through simulation and reinforcement learning rather than being hand programmed for every move. So it was, you know, it's the sort of thing they talk about with artificial general intelligence, where it was, it was, it was learning on its own. It wasn't being programmed to do this. It was because they can program computers to do all kinds of amazingly precise things, but it was learning on its own how to react to various shots. This worked when I did this, it didn't work when I did that. So next time I will adjust, which is something, I mean, it's almost hard to even imagine. And a robot that could react that quickly to elite Level table tennis. God, what could it do on the battlefield? What could it do in a warehouse? You know, name, name the situation.

[D]

And we talked about the blinding speed of like, pro level table tennis. But how about the spin? Not only, you know, I've played some fairly competitive table tennis. I'm not good. But you've got to a anticipate the spin of the shot coming out at having witnessed, you know, the movement of the other player's paddle. But then you've got to impart your own spin intentionally in a way that's going to work and be accurate. I mean, that's incredibly sophisticated. It's not just whacking knuckleballs back and forth. In effect, it's, it's mastered all the nuances, apparently, which is just mind blowing.

[G]

Yeah. And then you put that into application and all kinds of different things. Obviously, you know, you think about those robots delivering food to houses. Well, if you can have a robot that can play table tennis, they could deal with traffic and, and obstacles and all kinds of unforeseen things, I assume.

[D]

Never mind menacing Chinese robot dogs with machine guns coming out of their eyes.

[G]

Yeah, we ought to check in on Iran where things are there. Joe's headline for the day is that nobody cares.

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[G]

Oh, really?

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Far more rotten.

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Visitors to the National Zoo got the public's first look at lin Mai, the

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first baby Asian elephant born at the

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zoo in 25 years.

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The two month old, already about 500 pounds, stuck pretty close to family there.

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Apparently though, Lin Mai's birth mom struggled

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to bond with her. So that's her aunt there nurturing the calf.

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Lin Mai is sassy, according to a zookeeper. Oh, wow. So it started like awe inspiring and ended up kind of tragic.

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Yeah, Mom. Mom. Bad mom.

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Wow.

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Probably on drugs. Yeah. You know, I could never get excited about Asian elephants because there's the ones with the little ears. I was just always an African elephant guy. Big floppy ears.

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Go ahead and shazam it while I hum it and you'll find out that that song is called Baby Elephant. The baby elephant walk.

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Correct.

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They like putting those stories in the evening news. I feel like they're hanging on to a formula from a half a century ago or they need to throw in things like that, but whatever.

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Maybe I don't know. Well, they're, they're, they're. Viewers typically are like three quarters of a century old, so.

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That's true.

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That's why it's a good point.

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Let's check in on Iran real, real quick here and what's going on.

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Heavily produced video released by Iran's Revolutionary Guards, complete with soundtrack and drone footage, is said to show Iranian fast boats ditching one of the cargo ships. Masked men boarding the MSC Francesca, then boarding and capturing a second cargo ship. Ship monitoring websites track the vessels to a few miles off the Iranian coast. No injuries were reported on either ship.

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That music wasn't the CBS Evening News. That was the cool dramatic music that the Iranians put behind the video that they released to the world yesterday, making them look like they're super cool military. They were combating the video that we put out with the Marines boarding some of their ships. They wanted to make it look like, you know, we can do the same thing and have the same expertise. And they put a cool music behind it and everything like that. And it looked all dramatic. Here's a little more with what Iran did yesterday.

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Iran says the attacks were in retaliation for the US blockade and seizure of two vessels. This week, a member of Iran's Parliament taunting an eye for an eye, a tanker for a tanker. In a further show of defiance, state TV showed what it said were two ballistic missiles being paraded through crowds of Iranians shouting death to America.

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Yep. Two giant ballistic missiles that can reach all your European capitals as they chant death to America.

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I realize we're in a quote unquote ceasefire, but why didn't we blow those to kingdom come as they paraded him down the street? I mean, that would have just been perfect. Oh, those are pretty missiles. Kur bluey. Kur bluey. Now they ain't so pretty is day.

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Sorry, Were.

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Yeah, exactly. Come on.

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That's a good question. I feel like where things are now. Oh, by the way, we boarded a couple of ships way, way far away from the blockade, thousand miles away in the Asian Sea that were headed to India or China or who knows where they're headed. But they are Iranian oil tankers that we intercepted, so it ain't just right there. I think where things are now is it's going to be the slow strangling of the country of Iran until it falls. And I don't know if that's going to take weeks or what, but they can't, they can't. They can't deal with it forever.

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Right? Right. As I Mentioned earlier. I was so annoyed. There's a cabal of young journalists writing for the Wall Street Journal who are portraying this paragraph after paragraph as a crippling lingo. Limbo, rather not lingo. Limbo. A crippling limbo between war and peace. A standoff that has high risks. And at no point do they ever say one of the combatants is one of the richest and most successful countries in the history of the world and whose economy appears more or less untucked. More or less. With all due respect to the gas prices. And the other one is a country that depends entirely on petrodollars. And those have been choked off completely, hinting that this latest Trump strategy is just a standoff. It's limbo.

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It's not limbo at all.

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Earlier one. One combatant lives in a grocery store and the other is down to its last box of crackers. It's not a standoff at all. It's a specific strategy with specific goals. And the fact that a paper, the website as auspicious as the Wall Street Journal has journalists who either don't understand that or choose not to write it. Well, we could do this annoying.

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We could do this tfn and they might have days or weeks left that they can put up with it. So yeah, that's the difference.

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My point exactly. Yeah, yeah. Hey, speaking of that sort of thing, Michael, I had Hanson get some theme music together. Do you know where that is? You got that, Andy? Let's slip this in right now. It's the perfect time. It's the ridiculously blatant Media buyers of the day.

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Like that.

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That's. Oh, that last note. That was awesome.

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Oh, that last flatulent Barry Sacks note. Makes it. It just makes it. It's funny because Hanson mentioned to me that it was having. He was having an extraordinarily difficult time making it. Say blatant. Kept mispronouncing the word. Play it again. The way it pronounces ridiculously is pretty funny too. It's the ridiculously blatant Media buyers. If it were not for that, it would be flawless. I love that. Anyway, your ridiculously blatant media bias of the day. Two things. First of all, there is an organization you probably don't know about it. It's called Ad Fontes Media that furnishes its services and curriculum to colleges and universities to help educate the kids about media bias and good reporting and that sort of thing. It's entirely left wing and includes a guy who used to work for the Iranian state affiliated newspaper who's been a death to Israel, death, death to America guy. And so this organization evaluates U.S. news outlets by political leaning and trustworthiness. The chart, and I'm quoting now, an actual media analyst from the Free Beacon. Let's see. The chart consistently rates left wing sources as more reliable and often less biased than their conservative counterparts. Journalist magazine the Jacobin, by the way, enjoys a higher reliability rating than the National Review, the New York Post in the Free Beacon. And on television, the chart says Fox News host Laura Ingram and Jesse Waters are far less reliable than their Ms. Now counterparts, Chris Hayes and Jen Pasaki. And again, they're employing a Iranian media guy, a state media guy, and then the New York Times. Ah, the old gray lady has placed Gavin Newsom's new book on its best sellers list, even though Gavin is admitted using bulk sales to send tens of thousands of copies of his memoir, Young man in a Hurry. The Times has cited such sales in the past to disqualify Republican politicians from the list, including Ted Cruz, of course.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, we're that game for a long time when Republicans do the same ploy, buy up a bunch of their own books to try to get it on the charts. The New York Times is calls them on it. But when the Democrats do it, no, it's just people's legitimate interest in Gavin Newsman. That's a good, it's a good cover and title, I think.

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Yeah, they put a little asterisk next to the title that if you go to the trouble of looking up what that means. It says what the tile indicates that some retailers report receiving bulk orders. But again, Republicans do this band. Gabby Newsom, number four on the list. And that's your. It's the ridiculously blatant media buyers of the day.

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God, I want to just maybe this is what I'll do in retirement. I'll hang out at bookstores. I love that note. Yes, I'll hang out bookstores and berate people who buy dumb books. This bookstore is full of great books. There's so many great books or literature, history, and you're gonna buy that stupid freaking book. That's what I'll do in my retirement.

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Glad to see you have goals. Yeah, no kidding. It's your next chapter. I love it. You gotta do it quietly or they will heave you out. Although wait a minute, wait. In California, they don't heave you out for stealing. So if you just yell you're doing this cuz I'm a minority. They'll be like all Right? Eff it. Let him do it.

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As a, as a guy who loves reading more than pract anything on earth, it might be my favorite single thing to do. To be alone with a book. People buying crap like that hurts my heart.

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much I like it, I came across another article the other day about the death of reading. Any sort of long form reading. And it really does seem that the literacy age in terms of, I mean we'll still be able to read, but the idea of reading books is just gonna go away. And it was a blip. It only lasted a couple of hundred years. People only really had access to books starting around 1700 when you could mass produce books. And it's gonna be over around 20, 20, 100.

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In depth. Looking into things, going with or taking a look at complex ideas. Yeah, it's all about to end.

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Let's.

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I would worry about it though.

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Hey, something I don't know for people like particularly my oldest sons like, thank God, can't go away soon enough.

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Oh no, son, no. You weren't much of a reader as a youngster.

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No, I was not. I came to reading a late in life.

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Yeah.

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And I have no idea, I have no idea why either. No idea why. I can. I can almost remember the moment when I decided I should start reading. And then I. I haven't stopped since. But yeah, and I hope that happens with my my youngest son is super into reading. My oldest is not. But and neither are many of his friends. I mean, it's just like I said, statistically, it's, it's a. It's a dying thing.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, how will he get into a university that will pervert his mind and indoctrinate him? We'll have a report from fabulous Stanford University. It' almost hilarious, really. It's so terrible. It's so awful. It's almost funny. Cool.

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That's on the way. Stay here.

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First of all, the fairy tale life

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of Fernando Mendoza ends tonight as he will be the number one pick in the NFL draft and have to go get the hell beaten out of him and lose a lot of games playing for the Raiders after winning that amazing national title at Indiana that everybody loved so much. Also, our four We've got to get to our latest Gavin Newsom's Old lady clip. I just listened to it.

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Oh my boy. What the hell is going on?

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She is something.

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Oh what a long day that woman is.

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He has got to have a team deciding how if I run for president, how are we going to handle her?

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I almost said something incredibly controversial. I held back. For once I'll say this instead so every year, Stanford University, one of the leading lights of education. Jack. I mean absolutely wonderful awards, huge grants of money to various student groups. Everybody kicks in their their student activities fee and then the administration decides who's on the list and then the students vote who should get what. And here are some of the results. Stanford University is awarding five times as much to a campus drag troop as to an undergraduate veterans association after students overwhelmingly approve those grants and the grants in the campus wide vote. So five times as much for a drag troop. We'll get back into that.

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Oh yeah, I need more information on what the hell is a drag troop and what do they need the grant to do.

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The grants, which are funded by student dues, also include $175,000 for the Muslim Student Union, more than the budget for every Christian student group combined, according to a review of the grants.

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You need a separate student union for the Muslim faith?

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Yeah, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Because they have very different laws and traditions than we have in the west and indeed loathe us and our traditions. The numbers offer a window in the priorities of Stanford administrators who determine which groups are eligible and the students vote. 3,000 students voted on nearly 150 grants, each of which passed by large margins. The awards include a $50,000 grant to the Stanford Drag troupe, which last year sponsored a performance by two drag queens, Slut the Rock Johnson and ZZ Chic as part of a sex trivia event entitled Are you smarter than a sexpert the rock jumps. That's correct at $50,000 grant dwarfs the $10,000 earmarked for the Stanford Undergraduate Associate of Association of Veterans, as well as the 14,000 earmarked for Stanford Soul Ballet Group, the Cardinal Ballet Company. It also exceeds the $19,000 earmarked for the Stanford Jazz Orchestra, likewise the Late Opera Company and the Stanford Symphony Orchestra. The drag troupe got much more.

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I know I say this every time the topic comes up, but I don't understand what drag is. What are we doing here? What are they getting money to do?

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Dress up like a cartoon of women to blur the lines between the sexes to reestablish radical gender theory? Stanford Republican Club, meanwhile, receives just $7,500 under the new budget, less than the $10,000 he marked for Furries at Stanford, a 15 person club that refers to its members as Stan Furs. So the furries got more than the Stanford Republican. The grant to the Republican Club sparked the most opposition from the students who voted with nearly 25% voting against the funds. By contrast, only 16% voted against funding the drag group. Other clubs with larger budgets than the veterans group, including the Stanford Video Games association and the Society of Latinx Engineers.

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I think I want to eliminate all of those. Let me just. How about no grants for any of you? You're rich kids at Stanford. You're already privileged. Just do your thing.

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So to the administration's approving or disapproving of anybody even getting on the list for the vote, the school is unlikely to approve, quote, a charitable organization designed to provide health education resources in Tanzania. The website states, since the intended beneficiaries are not Stanford students. More successful examples include Black and Queer at Stanford, a support organization dedicated to the. Well, you can guess what it said. I have a guess, yeah. The drag Troop initially requested 75 $70,000 in its application.

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So they could.

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And they only got 50,000, which had to be disappointing.

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But now they'll have to get by on to.

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I'm going to answer your question, Jack, entirely to your satisfaction. The application said the money would support up to 11 performances over the next year, including Stanford's annual Drag Fest, which the application claims is one of the most highly attended free events on campus. Quite quote each show is meant to be catered to cover all experience levels with drag and queerness in general. One of our core values is to make drag comprehensively accessible for all Stanford students.

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But these. All these definitions of drag, though, always seem like. It's like when you look up a word in the dictionary and it just uses the root word to define it. Yes, it always seems like that to me. It's like, oh, we're right. It's. It's too to do drag. But why? To support drag. Which does what?

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If you believe sex is entirely a social construct and you can declare yourself a woman and trans women are women, then you trot out men dressed as cartoonish women, trot around and you offend anybody who doesn't agree with critical gender theory, and you feel all enlightened. That's it.

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I had a drag float in the parade in my town last week and it's having the same thing. So what are we cheering about here?

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Dress like a man, you prevert. That's what I would have yelled.

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Wow.

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