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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
85 year old Motown legend Smokey Robinson has been a accused of sexual assault by four of his former housekeepers. Robinson plans to beat the charges by being dead soon. That was funny.
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Jack Armstrong
He has a point.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, no kidding. Those of you who like flavored coffee. So I'm out of my good. My coffee. That's like coffee flavored coffee. Which is what I think coffee should taste like. And the worst part is you lose the smell. I'm making my coffee and it didn't smell like coffee. Which is one of the greatest smells in the history of the world. It smelled like chocolate or hazelnut or something. What the hell? What is wrong with you people?
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Jack Armstrong
I am staunchly anti flavored coffee. I say to each their own.
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Joe Getty
No, I don't. You're wrong. You're deeply wrong. If you like flavored coffee characters flawed. I do want it to. Another thing you may or may not be wrong about.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, we're getting a face from Katie. What are you? Flavored cup. Well, you're a girl.
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Katie
No, I like my coffee black. But says the guy who just put creamer in his. What flavor was the creamer you put in your coffee like a week ago?
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Joe Getty
Cream flavored cream tastes like cream. Like from a cow.
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Jack Armstrong
You sure it wasn't almond berry?
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Joe Getty
No, I don't do flavors. I don't do flavors.
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Katie
Strawberry whipped cream.
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Jack Armstrong
It's whatever came out of the cow. Flavored. Huh?
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Joe Getty
I do want to talk about Mother's Day a little bit. I. I noticed yesterday there's two very divergent views on what Mother's Day. How it should be celebrated. And I just wondered where most people are on that. Also I gotta mention that the tariff thing, the war with China. The tariff war with China is over. They ended it. So they. The 90 day pause. And, and, and, and I feel like it's probably just gonna stay that way. And so that whole thing, I'm ready for the historians to write what we got out of it.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the crazy part is over. There's still some jawing to be done and numbers to be set and, and, and you know, honestly I'm, I'm not quite as rosy as you are. I'm drinking the black coffee of reality here. We still are an enormous trading partner with a malevolent communist power that seeks our destruction. So what about that part? Anyway, we will see going forward. I don't know if you're familiar with this. Trump has the White House, the Republicans have the White House in both houses of Congress at barely. But there's a midterm coming up. So what are the Democrats up to? A couple of interesting perspectives. Quoting a bit from the fabulous Nellie Bowles of the Free press. She is highly amused that tariffs are now what she says is MAGA coded. They're co dead. They're associated with maga. So socialists are finally realizing that these are a bad idea to begin with. So suddenly everybody on the left is turning pro free trade and anti tariff. Complete flip. Bernie Sanders saying it's a bit arrogant to say, well maybe kids have too many toys and the price may go up a bit. I think billionaires like Trump and Musk do not have a clue what it means for working class families. So all of a sudden Bernie, who's been like pro labor and anti tariff his whole life are like free. That's funny.
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Joe Getty
He was pro terror of his whole life. Correct?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Joe Getty
You said anti so I just did.
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Jack Armstrong
He is now. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Sorry.
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Jack Armstrong
So Bernie led a movement that fought hard against free trade for decades. Like his own Senate page literally says he has, quote, helped lead the effort against disastrous unfettered free trade deals with China, Mexico and other low wage countries. All we needed was one trumpo and every socialist in America's waxing poetic about cheap China made toys on Amazon and how they're the American dream.
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Joe Getty
I love that man. I want about 8000 pencils today on Amazon. I'm so excited about the good times being back the gravy years where you can have as many pencils and dolls as you wanted.
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Jack Armstrong
So many dolls. I've assembled a doll Congress. I have $435 that I call the House of Representatives and then $100 I call the Senate. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Then I have one giant doll I call Trump.
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Joe Getty
A pencil in their hand.
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Jack Armstrong
That's right, please. So it's well known that the Democrats are out of power and out of sorts. Nobody knows what they believe in. They ran a mummy and then they realized that was a bad idea, so ran a dummy and she got trounced by Donald J. And nobody knows what they stand for. Well, it's starting to take shape a little bit. Nelly Bowles writes My beloved Technocrats. New York Times columnist and podcast hosts Ezra Klein and data whiz David Shore have been tapped by Senate Democrats to be their special guests at their annual retreat. Only a few years ago, David Shore was fired for posting data suggesting that the riots following MLK Jr's assassination likely tipped the 1968 presidential election election in Nixon's favor. And that was interpreted as a veiling, as a thinly veiled critique of the Black Lives Matter protests. So he was fired for that. So the fact that Senate Democrats are picking Klein and Shore, who the left really tried to destroy because they were normal, indicates a massive ma. A massive messaging shift is coming our way, sure enough. And then here's Gavin Newsom. Last week, we lost the popular vote. We lost the electoral vote. We got crushed. And we need to be humble about that and we need to have some grace and we need to understand why. Was it because of immigration? Was it because we were too, quote, unquote, woke? And then Pete Boot Edge. Edge. Sporting a beard, by the way. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, Mayor Pete's got a beard.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, he's rocking a beard. Yeah. And he's hitting up the manly podcasts, too. He's appearing anywhere on the, like, moderate to right manly men podcasts.
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Joe Getty
He drinks hazelnut coffee, if you know what I'm saying.
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Jack Armstrong
I do know precisely what you're saying. You're saying he's gay. Anyway, Boot Edge.
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Joe Getty
Edge.
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Jack Armstrong
So anyway, he said, it is so hard to build and do things in this country. And I lived this when I was at the Department of Transportation. Too much regulation, standing in charge in the way of progress. And Nelly writes, that's the closest thing we've gotten to a mia culpa culpa for Pete having seven and a half billion dollars installing a total of seven charging stations in two years. I'm ready to forgive you, Pete.
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Joe Getty
I listen to.
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Jack Armstrong
No kidding.
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Joe Getty
I was listening to the Dispatch podcast last week and they had an interesting conversation. Sarah Isger on there said she's on ABC this week every week. But she said, and I think she's absolutely right, she said, in what sense are there political parties anymore? There aren't. I mean, they wait for a personality to emerge and then they go with whatever that personality believes they don't have. So the Republican Party does what Trump is into now, but as soon as he disappears from the scene, it will, it will be as it. See as the Democrats are right now who are waiting for somebody to emerge and then they'll adopt whatever policies that person is. If it's Bernie, they'll be a Bernie person. If it's, you know, somebody more moderate, they'll adopt that person. But the parties aren't driving it. The personality that emerges is driving it. So there aren't really parties now.
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Jack Armstrong
I've been resisting the temptation to get into the Medicare reform negotiations, which are making me insane. The so called moderate Republicans are just trying to somewhat cap the explosive growth in waste, fraud, abuse and perversion of this medic medical, you know, care for the, you know, the poor and the old and the rest. It's just expl, it's exploded. Medicaid too, but. Well, with Medicaid, you know, you got the federal government paying 90% of the bill for healthy, working aged males who are just too lazy to work. You've got them paying about a third for poverty stricken pregnant ladies. It's become so perverse and upside down. But the so called moderate Republicans are saying, hey, we shouldn't crack down on this because it's, it's real easy for them to portray us as mean. And so let's just keep letting it explode out of control. No, you got fiscal hawks saying, for God's sake, we gotta do something about this. But they're being shouted down in the Republican Party. I said to Jack, was it, I think it was verbally, before the show. I said, the Republican Party doesn't stand for anything anymore. I have no idea what it is, neither party. So it's funny you should bring that to us. Yeah, yeah.
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Joe Getty
It's a personality driven on both sides. Part of it is the way financing works now and all that.
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Jack Armstrong
And in the air of Trump, you can have everybody bellowing from the same hymnal on the right. Then Trump changes his mind two weeks later, and then everybody's bellowing the opposite. Sure, it's enough to make you cuckoo nuts. Anyway, I love this. Back to kicking the Democrats who deserve it. Nelly Bowles in the Free Press brings up the project. Hey la, you know what? You're slacking. Listen to what Philly's doing. You think you can squander enormous amounts of money on practically nothing. Philadelphia has a project to build 57 units of affordable housing. So far it's taken over six years and many, many meetings and they still haven't even broken ground six years, tremendous amounts of money and haven't even stuck.
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Joe Getty
A shovel in the dirt on only 57 units anyway.
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Jack Armstrong
Yes, yes, that's correct. And, and, and they're six years into the project, whatever that means. I guess I'm six years into my becoming an astronaut project too. Anyway, this is, this is the punchline, folks. I went to the actual website to verify these numbers. They are act. They, they are literally in print. The city of Pasadena. Is it Pasadena? Yes. Pasadena, California is putting their electrical cables underground. There are a number of cities in California and around the country that do this. It helps maintain the reliability of electrical power during storms and that sort of thing. It also prevents, you know, crappy poles from falling down or poorly secured wires from falling and igniting the underbrush and forests and causing horrific wildfires that kill many people and then ruin, ruin many lives. All right, so there are a lot of good reasons to put these electrical cables underground. The city of Pasadena's website estimates that it will take 400 years to put their electrical cables underground. This is real quote, according to that construction timeline, category two streets, it's going to take. Category one streets is the most important priority streets. According to the website, it will take 100 years to put the power underground for the priority streets. 100 years. Now let me read from the website. Category 2 streets would be completed. Completed in approximately 400 years. That's right, folks. It will take longer than America has existed to put electrical cables under the sidewalk. Progressives have decided that since getting things done is right wing coded now, we must remain completely still. We must put down our hammers and let the buildings around us slowly decay. We must embrace decay and death as the truest expression of what it means to be American. What it means to be human. Pasadena measures civic improvement projects in centuries. Like redwoods, like shark teeth. Like the wind.
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Joe Getty
That's funny.
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Jack Armstrong
Honest to God. The city website says we're estimating it will take approximately 400 years to complete the phase two straits.
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Joe Getty
And that's why there's an opening for that whole abundance Democrat movement that's catching on that we talked about on Friday.
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Jack Armstrong
Right? Exactly. It's. You know what? It's very blue doggy. Or so it seems in its early days.
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Joe Getty
What is Mother's Day supposed to be? Came across two diverging opinions I wanted to bring up and a bunch of other stuff on the way to your Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
The four ducklings rescued from a sewer drain in Northern California. Firefighters jumping into action after the mother duck quacked for somebody to help Mama ended up reunited with her babies just in time for Mother's Day.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, well, Jan, thank goodness those baby ducks weren't swept way into the sewers to drown or be eaten by rats. In sports news, the A's were.
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Joe Getty
I like that. That's their happy Mother's Day story.
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Jack Armstrong
Ducks rescued from a sewer. Well, I'm, I'm glad. Well done, San Mateo Fire Department.
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Joe Getty
I don't wish that the sewer ducks had perished on Mother's Day or any other day, really. I'm glad that they.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'm pro duck.
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Joe Getty
So I am trying not to have any judgment on this and realizing that I may have been misled by my own experience and circle of friends my whole life into having a certain view of what Mother's Day or Father's Day is. I'm from the Midwest that maybe that has something to do with it as opposed to like California LA style Mother's Day. Maybe it's an ERA thing, I don't know. But my experience with Mother's Day and Father's Day as a child and then as an adult has always been the kids and the parent spending time together on that day. But I, I became aware yesterday that I was, I was confronted with a. No, no, no, no, no. That's, that's not what Mom's. Mom's. That's a day for moms to get away from their kids. Manny's Petties, champagne brunch with the girls. That's what Mother's Day is. And I, I realized maybe I've been off base all these years. I feel like all the people I know, it's way more hanging out with the kids. Ish.
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Jack Armstrong
But that's a long running joke in society is that Father's Day is for dads to spend time with the kids and Mother's Day is time for the mom to get away from the kids. I mean, it doesn't need to be that way. You, you do you. But yeah, Right.
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Katie
Yes, Katie, the, the trend I've seen this year with my mom friends was they get away for the day and then they have the evening, the dinner together.
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Joe Getty
Interesting. Yeah, Yeah. I don't. Again, my own small circle of experience has not been that at all. But it doesn't mean that that's the prevailing view.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it was always. No, Judy was the primary caregiver, stay at home mom for a lot of years. So, yeah, Mother's Day was a, a day to indulge mother.
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Joe Getty
Okay.
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Jack Armstrong
And yeah.
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Joe Getty
I know one mom was. I, I heard from yesterday spent, like, was exhausted from a weekend of doing things with the kids because the kids wanted to do Mother's Day things all weekend. Made them feel good and so, you.
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Jack Armstrong
Know, not nearly so sweet. Opening statements from the Diddy trial shaping up to be as horrifying as you might guess. Stay with us. Back to you, Jack.
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Joe Getty
Do we know any more about the witness that has disappeared? That was the story this morning that shocked me from News Nation. One of the key witnesses has just gone awol and with even some concern that they might have to delay the trial because the kind of hinged on this person's testimony.
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Jack Armstrong
Some of the rap moguls have influence, connections very reminiscent of crime bosses of old.
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Joe Getty
Absolutely. And do they offer you, hey, how about $5 million and you don't show up? Or how about you show up and I'm gonna, you know, your children are gonna disappear. Either one of those combination of that sort of thing, watch your back for.
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Jack Armstrong
The rest of your life because I'm gonna get you.
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Joe Getty
Wow. Wouldn't that be something?
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Jack Armstrong
They have intermediaries that can deliver that sort of message. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
So the Diddy trial really kicking off today. So we've got an update on that coming up in a little bit. Good, I'm looking forward to that. We also Trump said a few things today before he jumped on a plane to go to the Middle East. There's so many huge stories going on right now. Are Zelinsky and Putin going to meet face to face on Thursday? Zelinsky says he'll be there waiting for him.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'm skeptical, as I said earlier, but we shall see. Plus, the US China trade deal is taking shape. All those giant tariffs are off. The stock market has exploded. I haven't checked recently, but a pencil.
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Joe Getty
In every dollhouse going forward. Great gravy. Times are here again. Isn't it exciting?
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
The first week of jury selection in the Sean Combs trial has ended without a jury being selected. Well, yeah, I mean, where are you going to find 12 people who haven't had sex with Diddy? So today's a big day in the Diddy trial. We're about to hear some details and I'm wondering if this isn't going to be the first big celebrity trial we've had in a long time where we have practically daily updates on it here on the show.
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Jack Armstrong
I think so.
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Joe Getty
Probably start getting big time celebrities names thrown in there or some wild details like we've got today.
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Jack Armstrong
What do we have, Katie? Opening statements have begun.
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Katie
Yeah, they right now the defense is starting to talk about Diddy, but the prosecutor just finished up. She talked a lot about Cassie Ventura and Jane, who was a girlfriend that Diddy had back in 2020, how he they were going to describe for you in painstaking detail how they were forced to perform at Freak Offs. Another part says that Combs had found out that Cassie Ventura was seeing another man in a rage. Comb took his gun, his bodyguard and kidnapped an employee to go to the unnamed man's house. Combs said that he was going to kill the man that Cassie was with. And another detail, they were going through allegations of regular physical abuse, saying that Combs sometimes beat Cassie Ventura when she took too long in the bathroom. And when she tried to run away, he always found her, often with the help of his inner circle.
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Joe Getty
Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's pretty brutal. I'm reading some of the descriptions of what they're talking about. Yeah, this is not going to be like sexy and funny and exciting. I think it's going to be mostly sickening.
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Katie
Well, yeah. And the defense just came out saying Sean Combs is a complicated man, but this is not a complicated case she's talking to the jury about. This case is about love, jealousy, infidelity and money and voluntary choices made by capable adults. And the defense plans to present text messages from Sean Combs employees. For the most part, the evidence will show you it's talking to the jury that they loved him.
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Joe Getty
Well, they loved the lifestyle that came with being around him.
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Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
And then if things got ugly enough, he would put you in a position where he couldn't leave because you were scared for your life. Probably. What, what obviously is going to emerge over time is how in the world in the year 20, all the years this has been going on, how in the hell in the modern arrow with the number of people that would have had to have been aware of this lifestyle can you continue to pull this off in the United States of America? That's what's, that's what's going to emerge I think can be, be quite amazing.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. So the prosecutors previewing some of the evidence the jury should expect test messages, text messages about prostitutes, videos of Combs assaulting Cassandra Ventura. Videos of some of the freak offs which the government says show that Combs was directing the encounters. Of course you know there's, that's not a crime. But you will see for yourself the defendant's violence and aftermath. They described accounts of two women including former girlfriend who say Combs coerced them into drug fueled orchestrated sex marathons with male prostitutes. Government says a third woman and a former employee will testify about times that Combs forced himself on her sexually. Case resolved around Combs conduct but also that of members of his inner circle who are accused of working to cover up their boss's crimes.
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Joe Getty
So this is a good entry from the Washington Post today from reporters who were in there and tapping away on their phones. Sean Combs has been still an expressionless looking intently at the prosecutor and the jury box as a woman detailed the government's case against him, including an alleged incident when Combs paid for host hotel security footage of him abusing Cassie Ventura. That's the video we've all seen of him dragging her by the hair down the hallway. Johnson said Combs arranged for his workers to pay for what they thought was the only copy of the footage with a brown paper bag filled with a hundred thousand dollars in cash. High ranking employees who allegedly helped Combs cover up his crimes included his chief of staff as well as others. So they, so you know, at a, at a hotel, of course there probably would be only one copy of something like that. They tried to show up with a paper bag full of a hundred grand and say hey, give it to us, this is yours. No, no harm done, no foul, keep your mouth shut.
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Jack Armstrong
Well that's what happened.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
The money was exchanged and the silence was maintained until somebody had made an extra copy because people tend to do that. Decided to leak it a year later.
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Joe Getty
Right in the modern world, it'd be pretty easy to make an extra copy, whereas, God, it wouldn't be that many years ago you'd had to been like a, you know, an audio visual major in college or something to be able to do that. But wow, that's how these people get away with that. They've just got so much money to throw at these situations because without that video, this trial doesn't happen. I don't think so.
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Jack Armstrong
Speaking of throwing money at situations, his Lawyer team makes OJ's dream team look like a double A ball club. Damn. I mean, you're not going to know all these names, but they're like the biggest names in especially New York defense attorneys, including folks who defended pharma bro Martin Shkreli. Remember him? Keith Rainier, the leader of the Nexium sex cult. Dominique Strauss Kahn, the former managing director of the IMF. Remember in 2011 he was accused of sexually assaulting an hotel maid. They've defended Louis Mangioni, among others. He's got just, he's got quite a few super heavyweights.
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Joe Getty
Well, he's a billionaire, right?
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Jack Armstrong
Including the daughter of Mark Garagos, by the way. A little tie in oj. Yeah, I think he is something like that. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
So that gives you, you know, quite a bit of money to spread around.
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Jack Armstrong
On lawyers team also includes Alexandra Shapiro, prominent appellant court lawyer at the firm Shapiro out of Bach, who was once prosecutor in New York. She graduated from Columbia Law School and was one of the first clerks of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg at the Supreme Court. She also wrote a novel entitled Presumed Guilty. Oh.
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Joe Getty
It'S sort of Shakespearean when you just get to the idea of you got so much money and power that you just, you know, you run amok, your, your most base instincts run amok and you feel like you can do anything because he was doing anything and getting away with it for a very long time. And it would seem as a fan of Shakespeare and human nature, that your appetite for that sort of thing grows with the eating. I mean, the more you get to do whatever you want and can pull it off, it makes you want to just explore further. That part of your personality seems to happen.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, Shakespeare was a plagiarizer, Jack. This stuff straight out of the Old Testament. There are a number of tales of kings of old who, who grew bold and greedy and expressed contempt toward the laws of God and man and, and found themselves falling. So, yeah.
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Joe Getty
How many movie stars, actresses, musicians that we do respect knew this was going on?
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Jack Armstrong
Had an idea of it? Yeah, you could be like the ugly particulars.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I, I think you could have an idea. He's pretty freaky. And not have any idea of like the hardcore violence and threats and all that sort of stuff. The rape.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. I have known a handful of people in my life who have been kind of pleasure seeking types, hard partiers in the direction of, of old Diddy. And yeah, they, they want everybody to have a good time. And they don't necessarily, you know, show you the inner workings of how everybody happened to be there. What substances and the rest of it. No, that's the part of throwing a good party. You don't tell them, hey, I've threatened these prostitutes with a pistol whipping.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Jack Armstrong
Be a bad form.
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Joe Getty
It's not romantic or sexy. If that video had stayed hidden, I think he would, he wouldn't even be in jail right now. I think that was the big deal. And I mean, it's been stated as such by all kinds of legal experts in all the articles I read over the weekend. That's going to be huge for showing the jury what kind of person he is.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. Not only that, but I read with interest, mentioned this a little earlier, but prosecutors say they have trouble convincing juries that somebody like Diddy allegedly can be that brutal and cruel over that long a period of time, because most normal people don't have that in their life experience. Somebody who is so, who so disregards kindness and compassion that they can just brutalize people. Would you have a hard time picturing that?
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Joe Getty
Would you want to be a jury on a trial like this?
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So to finish the thought, to show somebody brutalizing somebody else, the jurors say, oh, wow, he is capable of that. That's terrible in a way that, you know, I don't need. But I'm a cynical man. Having got it, I'd love the ugliness of humanity for an entire career.
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Joe Getty
Yes, I would love to be a juror. What a fascinating experience that would be. Six to eight weeks of listening to this and then, and then applying the law to it with the evidence and everything. That would be so interesting.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's, you know, it's one of the downsides of the jury system and, and we around here advocate very, very strongly for you to not try to get out of jury duty. Try as hard as you can to do jury duty because it's a constitutional responsibility of all of us. And it's just crazy interesting in all sorts of different ways. I really, really recommend you try to get on a Jury.
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Joe Getty
Plus, you could end up.
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Jack Armstrong
Any common sense whatsoever. We need you.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. You could end up on the other end of this someday where you didn't do anything. Do you want a bunch of numbnuts making the decision?
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Jack Armstrong
On the other hand, six to eight weeks, I mean, there are plenty of us who that. That would not do. I just can't do it.
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Joe Getty
No, I couldn't. Single parent. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Full time primary caregivers. Just somebody with the nature of their work. You can't have Jim cover your accounts while you're out for six weeks. You're a sole proprietor, for instance. A proprietor, for instance. Or you do a radio show slash podcast and then nobody could come close to your brilliance to fill in. So, yeah, it's tough, but it's important.
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Joe Getty
I'm not a guy who's. I don't think would be shocked by any of the stuff that's going to come out of this trial, but there are probably jurors on there. I'm like trying to picture my mom or somebody who might be like, I mean, really kind of hard to wrap their heads around what they're talking about.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. There are occasional discussions of having professional jurors in this country to simplify things and not have to run through zillions of people who are trying to make excuses and get out of it, blah, blah, blah. It's just a whole rigmarole. It's an intriguing notion. There's some pretty strong pros and some cons, but tell you what, if that were the deal, man, when and if I ever retire from this dead end gig, I could absolutely see doing that being a professional juror. I wouldn't want to work full time all the time, but. Oh, it's so interesting.
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Joe Getty
Hey, so is there a racial element to this? You know, the whole OJ Thing really turned into a black white, you know, the riots afterwards and everything like that. Is there a racial element to this? Is this black community standing up for Diddy Combs or is he not? Is that not the thing here?
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Jack Armstrong
I don't know, Katie, have you heard anything like that? I've been unaware of any dynamics like that, which doesn't prove anything, but the.
- [31:05]
Katie
Only person I've seen cheering for Diddy is Kanye.
- [31:08]
Joe Getty
Right, Yeah, I agree. Which is not like somebody you want on your side.
- [31:12]
Jack Armstrong
No. Nazi sympathizer. Yes. Not the best look, hey, thanks for the offer. Yay, but ye. Yay, but.
- [31:22]
Joe Getty
Yeah, I'll bet Yay shows up at the courthouse at some point. He is going to be out front There at some point doing, he's going.
- [31:29]
Jack Armstrong
To be wearing his clan robes, yelling about Hitler.
- [31:32]
Joe Getty
It's all.
- [31:32]
Jack Armstrong
Again, not helpful.
- [31:34]
Joe Getty
Hey, you're, you're not helping. You're not helping me here with the clan.
- [31:38]
Jack Armstrong
You think you're helping and I appreciate it, but you and your clan robe and your Heil Hitler. Go.
- [31:47]
Joe Getty
Trump is headed to the Middle East. He might be getting a new plane from the. From who? Qatar. It's gonna provide him with a plane. That's kind of a story that the left's really into right now. I don't know if it's.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, they're gonna lend it to him as Air Force One. Then when he's out of office, he'll just keep it. Theoretically.
- [32:07]
Joe Getty
Okay.
- [32:08]
Jack Armstrong
No.
- [32:09]
Joe Getty
Okay. We got a bunch of stuff to update you on. Stay here.
- [32:12]
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
- [32:15]
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- [32:45]
Joe Getty
So for the first time in many years, we'll slash the cost of prescription drugs and we will bring fairness to America. Drug prices will come down by much more. Really? If you think 59, if you, if you think of a drug that is sometimes 10 times more expensive, it's much more than the 59%. You know, it depends on the way you want to analyze it, but in one way you could analyze it that way, but between 59 and 80 and I guess even 90%, I don't know any of those numbers mean, but President Trump signed an executive order that are supposed to really slash prescription drug prices. He signed it today. Now, he tried to do the same thing in the first term, but the court stopped him saying he doesn't have the ability to do that. I don't know if he feels he has the ability to do it here. It's another example of something that, you know, Congress could write a law about and could be a permanent part of our lives. But we don't do things like that anymore, right?
- [33:40]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I've got to admit I'm torn on this topic. I've heard some pretty steady roland, reliable people say we're removing the innovation, the R and D the incentive to come up with groundbreaking new drugs. And Trump is saying, now that's, that's not true. We're getting ripped off.
- [34:01]
Joe Getty
I'm completely at sea. And I think 99% of people are on all this stuff. I mean, I don't have the slightest idea what things cost.
- [34:08]
Jack Armstrong
I got.
- [34:08]
Joe Getty
I'm on eight different drugs for my whooping cough now. Eight. I was at the doctor for three hours on Saturday. Lots of drugs. I went and picked up four Saturday afternoon. They ranged in price that I paid, that I had to hand money over to someone. They ranged in price from 0 to 35 cents to $48. And I just pay it just like everybody else does. Why is that 148 and why is that 1 0? I don't have any idea. I don't question it. What am I gonna try to figure out? Why? And where would you even start?
- [34:43]
Jack Armstrong
And who's paying how much to a pharmacy or a pharmacy benefits manager, an insurance company or whatever.
- [34:49]
Joe Getty
Yeah. And I don't know if that one that cost me 36 cents was outrageously priced that my insurance company picked up, but is now spreading that cost among. I, I don't have any idea and neither do you. And so, yeah, I don't even know what it means when he says I'm going to lower prescription drug costs. I have insurance and my drugs don't cost much. So I don't know.
- [35:12]
Jack Armstrong
Right.
- [35:13]
Joe Getty
It doesn't mean they don't cost me much. They might be costing a ton of money and it might be horrible and we might be all getting ripped off and we're all paying way too much for insurance. My insurer, my premiums are high enough. My deductibles, insane. Maybe it's because insur. And the drugs are too high, but I don't know. And I. I'm never going to sit down to figure it out either.
- [35:30]
Jack Armstrong
No. And every good and thorough explanation I've ever gotten of how our health system works, including the government's involvement in it, you go through it's like the stages of accepting death. I mean, there's the eyes glazing, then there's the anger, then there's the discouragement and the sadness. And you realize not. Not only do I know this system is crazy and confusing, I know I will never be able to understand it. It is so complex and mob.
- [35:57]
Joe Getty
Oh, and I got a lot.
- [35:58]
Jack Armstrong
I don't mean to be discouraging, it just is.
- [35:59]
Joe Getty
I got a letter the other day on some medical bill. They're going to turn it over to collections because I owe 5.24 that somehow slipped through the cracks of and I tried to pay it and that yeah, I punched in the code of the account I've got and they claim it doesn't exist. I know I've done this before. It's 5.24. Good freaking God. And I have no idea what was from or where. That sort of stuff is just nuts.
- [36:24]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:25]
Joe Getty
That's what pushes people toward wanting a single payer system. But I guarantee you a single pair system is going to feel a lot like being at the dmv. You might not be paying out of pocket per time the same way, but the hassle paperwork getting denied will be insane.
- [36:42]
Jack Armstrong
So love a lot of what Trump's doing on a lot of different fronts, but the whole having a tariff against foreign movies to help out Hollywood thing, there's a rather a good argument against that. I would like to make it among other fair next hour. Plus in California's crumbling update In a related story, if you don't get next hour, grab it by a podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You probably ought to subscribe.
- [37:08]
Joe Getty
I just read a detail from the Diddy trial today what one of the women is going to explain G Rose so I mean there's stuff there that will shock the conscience of anybody but a merchant marine.
- [37:21]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'm not sure we want to hear about it.
- [37:23]
Joe Getty
No, I'm not going to tell you about it. We got more an hour four. If you don't get it, get the podcast.
- [37:29]
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
- [37:34]
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