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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
The medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Jack Armstrong
This medal is for the men who went down that day.
Joe Getty
On Medal of Honor Stories of Courage, you'll hear about these heroes and what their stories tell us about the nature of bravery. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now he Armstrong and Getty.
Chad Wolf
What they're telling the American people is that none of this would have occurred if ICE just would have ignored their authority and the mandate given to them by members of Congress to go in there and remove dangerous individuals and other individuals from these communities. And so they're actually saying law enforcement and the ability to carry out lawful orders is what has caused this. I think that is a crazy position. Instead of putting the fault where it lies, which is you've got violent opportunists and others that are taking advantage of the situation and going in there and causing a lot of violent activity. That's a pretty cool name he's got there. That's Chad Wolf, former DHS secretary. I don't think anybody, including me, could have named him as a former DHS secretary. He was for a cup of coffee at the end of the Trump administration anyway, saying it's crazy to say that there'd have been no unrest if LA hadn't, if ICE hadn't gone in. So just ignore the law and let LA violate the law. We'll just give you a pass because you said you don't care. So what are we going to do? And well, if you're going to enforce the law, you go in there and it turns into this. So I, I agree. How you going to get around this? You're either going to enforce it or you're not.
Jack Armstrong
That is a bizarre point of view.
Chad Wolf
Yeah, we got a fair amount of punditry.
Jack Armstrong
Never arrest anybody. There will be no resisting arrest.
Chad Wolf
Right? Yeah, that is exactly what they're saying. That's a well summarized. Got some Republicans, got some Democrats that are going to weigh on this, all roughly, roughly with the same take. Here's Brit Hume on fox. He's their senior political correspondent and I think he's very fair about Trump. Very critical sometimes. But this is to the whole, these are peaceful protests.
Jack Armstrong
Which number and the other Thing about this I don't understand is, I mean, people can look at this and tell when she says these are peaceful demonstrations. Well, some may be, but a lot of them are not. And you know, people do not approve of chunks of concrete and rocks being thrown at cars. They don't approve of cars being set on fire. They don't approve against violence, against law enforcement officers. And make no mistake about it, it's not the federal authorities that are federal troops that are in there that are being attacked. It's the local police and this, this talk by Nancy Pelosi, the Governor Count, Governor Newsom and others, Karen Bass, the mayor, gives every appearance that they are on the side of these violent protesters. I think that's a terrible look for Democrats.
Chad Wolf
Yeah. Brett Hume says, I have seen some things, but this is politically insane to be on the side of the protesters on this. For the Democrats, I would agree. Okay, well, you say he's a Republican. How about Dan Turntine? You might not know his name. He, he's a big wheel Democratic strategist. He's the D that Mark Halpern has on his video cast every night. He has Sean Spicer as the R strategist. This guy Dan Tarantin as the D strategist. He's always on the side of lefties. But this is what he said yesterday.
Joe Getty
Politics, the optics of this are horrific.
Jack Armstrong
You have a major city in your.
Joe Getty
State with people who are here illegally.
Jack Armstrong
Not waving American flags, waving Mexican flag.
Joe Getty
Attacking US Property, federal officials, police cars, lighting them on fire, blocking highways.
Jack Armstrong
And that's what you're, it says to.
Joe Getty
The rest of the country, like, these are our values, this is what we're okay with.
Chad Wolf
There's a Democratic strategist just beside himself. He goes on for some time about how awful this is as they're trying to dig out of the hole of having lost the last election to be on the side of the attacking police waving Mexican flags.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. And I would say the, the more you drill down into the chance, I mean, what's no ice, no kkk, no fascist usa? What percentage of Americans hear that and say, yeah, we don't want that? And what percentage say, you people are radical scumbags, we don't want you around.
Chad Wolf
Yeah, I don't remember which pundit I heard make this point yesterday, but the George Floyd thing, as awful as it was, and most of us who are law and order of all stripes, didn't think that was okay. But at least you looked at the George Floyd video and thought walk and see why they're mad. Most of America is not looking at this and saying, oh, I can see why they're upset. You're here illegally, you gotta go is what most of America thinks. So you're on the wrong side of it in every way. Substance, method, tactic, everything. Here's John Miller of cnn. I don't know his politics. We all know where CNN is. Usually he's a former FBI guy talking about who's doing this stuff.
Jack Armstrong
The law enforcement who already know who the. You can call them anarchists. Some of them call themselves anarchists. You can call them agitators. They already know who they are. Their specialty in these things is taking the people who are there to protest for the actual cause and then bringing their groups together and basically hiding in the middle of the crowd, egging people on to violence or committing acts of violence and then going back into the crowd. They are opportunists when they see a chance to confront the government, confront authority, and attach themselves to one of these issues.
Chad Wolf
So Pam Bondi issued an indictment yesterday on one dude who seemed to be the ringleader of throwing cement at the police over the weekend. Big chunks of cement, and his mask slipped down at one point. And with facial recognition technology, which scares the hell out of me, they figured out who he was very quickly. They know he is. They've already raided his house. They're gonna find him. I can't believe over all these years that we haven't, like, really nailed down the ring or the group or the organization of these people that John Miller was just talking about.
Jack Armstrong
And I understand, at least in theory, free speech concerns if it's a political movement or, you know, they're having legitimate protests. But these, we're talking about shipping pallets of bricks around. You remember during the George Floyd thing, there would be mysteriously appeared pallets of bricks ready to be thrown through windows. Who bought the bricks? Who shipped them? Where's the trucker? All of that. Why is the FBI not on this?
Chad Wolf
I don't know. And these are people who, they believe in the whole propaganda of the deed idea, going all the way back to Black Hand and, and, and Franz Ferdinand. Just the idea of this is our. This is our way of protesting violence, killing people, destroying things, whatever. In addition to the Marxists just want to destroy society and the anarchists. I don't quite understand anarchy. I've read a lot about it. I don't get it, how it holds together as a philosophy.
Jack Armstrong
It just doesn't. It's ridiculous.
Chad Wolf
It doesn't. So I'm not missing Anything?
Jack Armstrong
No, no. I've tried and tried and it just. No, there's no there there. You get to the end of the rainbow and there's just chaos.
Chad Wolf
If you're ever in Seattle, walk up the hill from the. From the Pike Place Market or the original Starbucks, you walk up the hill. There's a little bookshop there that is the number one anarchist bookstore in America. And I've sat in there and read the books and just tried to understand what the hell's going. It just makes no sense. But you're claiming it doesn't make sense. So.
Jack Armstrong
No, it's a fantasy anyway.
Chad Wolf
Is it.
Jack Armstrong
Is it.
Chad Wolf
Is it just like a slightly more cerebral version of I'm spray painting this wall because I'm mad at the world?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think that's fair. I understand it as a philosophy. It's a. It's a useful mental exercise to really take a look at anarchy and the idea that any interaction which isn't voluntary is improper outside of the obvious. If you're trying to murder me, I'm going to hit you in the head. And that's involuntary on your part, certainly from your point of view, but. And it helps to understand the proper encroachment of order upon liberty, in my opinion. But, like, as something to strive for. No, it's Looney Tunes. It ignores all of human activity from the moment we emerged from the primordial ooze.
Chad Wolf
Yeah. A couple more things I'll read and then an ultimate point that I'll make. And then I will shut up about this because I find the whole thing just really quite fascinating. Here's US Senator John Fetterman, Democrat, Pennsylvania. I unapologetically stand for free speech, peaceful demonstrations and immigration. But this is not that. This is anarchy and true chaos. My party loses the moral high ground when we refuse to condemn setting cars on fire, destroying buildings and assaulting law enforcement.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, he gets it.
Chad Wolf
Here's a guy who writes for the Atlantic. I don't care if you're raising Kenosha, storming the capital, or doing whatever this is in la. No democracy can function when every group and identity block decides it has the right and moral authority to take its specific political disagreements into the streets. I've heard a number of people bring this up and I think it's actually true. We have a what protests are problem in this country that stems from the 60s because it was a just cause with a good result that almost all Americans agree in civil rights, you know, ending up where they were supposed to end up 100 years earlier, Black people finally being able to vote, go to school, all these different sorts of things. But because of those protests, and a lot of them violent and you know, often violence on the side of the cops with fire hoses and dogs. But because of those protests, we kind of got in our bloodstream this idea that that's what protesting is, but that's not what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be a very, very orderly get a permit march with signs, try to register voters for the next go around of election, write some legislation. That's what the process is supposed to be. But because of the success of the 60s protests, we've kind of just got it into our heads, or some people have, that this is what you do all the time.
Jack Armstrong
Right. A couple of principles, the second of which was new to me the other day. But the first is just because you're angry doesn't mean you're right. People are angry and wrong all the time. Do not assume that because somebody is chanting and yelling they are correct. They may well not be. And the second thing is, and there's probably a formal name for this, but the idea of it is we unconsciously measure the righteousness of a cause by the extremeness of the protest. For instance, among certain people, there is an assumption that if Hamas is going to slaughter a bunch of Jews, rape the women, murder the babies, et cetera, take hostages for years, plus murder them, hold onto their bodies, that must be, I can assume safely because the horrors perpetrated against them are commensurate.
Chad Wolf
Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
And it's a weird assumption we make as human beings and there are a thousand examples of where that was absolutely not tr. And religious extremism is a good place to start. But yeah, I think people soft headed, well meaning people make that assumption all the time. These people are throwing chunks of concrete at cops because that's how bad the oppression of these poor immigrant people is. No, they're anarchists who want to overthrow Western civilization. There was one more thing. Oh, the one thing that's been reassuring to me lately is having seen poll after poll after poll about this sort of thing or men playing in women's sports. The rest of it, you realize, you know, everybody's been agreeing with me all along. We're like 75, 80, 85% strong and we all got deluded, or at least some of us did, misled by the idea that the media portrayed, which was that, oh no, it's actually only a very small minority people who think we should enforce the law and they're fascists and racists probably.
Chad Wolf
Well, I would say if you're an actual racist or you're anti any immigration at all, like Stephen Miller or whatever you couldn't buy with money.
Jack Armstrong
Mucho de niro.
Chad Wolf
Better propaganda for your side than what I'm looking at at TV right now. Big shirtless guy waving a Mexican flag, throwing things at cops. You couldn't do better for your side than that, which is quite the result. Any thoughts that? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY.
Joe Getty
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Jack Armstrong
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
Joe Getty
I'm J.R. martinez. I'm a U.S. army veteran myself and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Jack Armstrong
In New Mexico, battery consists of the unlawful touching of another person in a rude and insolent manner. So in this case we don't have any touching of another person. New Mexico doesn't have a statute that makes it criminal for someone to mess.
Joe Getty
With someone else's food or pee in a water bottle.
Jack Armstrong
While the act is gross and not right, it's not a crime in New Mexico.
Chad Wolf
What happened there?
Jack Armstrong
You got a bunch of jug peers in New Mexico, Jack. Nearly three months after a 16 year old Rio Rancho JV baseball player admitted to peeing an opposing team's water jug during a game.
Chad Wolf
During the game. How in the heck did he go he walk around the field to the other dugout. Hey, look over there.
Jack Armstrong
A bear.
Chad Wolf
And then grabbed their jug and feed it.
Jack Armstrong
Who's that center fielder? Oh, Jimmy. Yeah, he's got an unbelievable arm and he can pee 30ft. The Sandoval County District Attorney's office said it was not a crime. Because it was in the jug?
Chad Wolf
Because it wasn't in a violent or indolent manner, which was the rules.
Jack Armstrong
Former prosecutor and current state senator Mo Maestis disagrees. Quote, if I spit in somebody's hamburger and they take a bite, that's a battery.
Chad Wolf
Oh, yeah. And, you know, I don't know which one's worse, but yeah, we're urinating in my water jug. Yes, Katie.
Jack Armstrong
Well, we just.
Chad Wolf
We just had that story a couple months ago about that janitor that was peeing in the coworkers water bottles, and he got aggravated assault, which sounds. In Houston, which sounds appropriate to me.
Jack Armstrong
If you spit, we will not acquit. That would be my policy.
Chad Wolf
If you spit, we hit. That's what Trump says.
Jack Armstrong
That's right. According to an email sent to parents, some students drank from the contaminated jug. The teen was facing 15 battery charges. Interesting. You know, I've been sitting on a story for a long time about how New Mexico is the only southwestern state that's not experiencing an economic boom. It's because it's so lefty and so over regulated, so completely stifling of business and liberty.
Chad Wolf
Well, Michael after. Because we were discussing the peeing in the jug story during the commercial break to get it set up. And Michael said, and that's a reason why you shouldn't go to New Mexico. Like, New Mexico is off limits as a state because of this one little.
Jack Armstrong
That seems sensible to me. I tell you what, keep your jug covered here in New Mexico, right? It's like being a woman at a bar. Don't leave your drink unattended. Somebody's gonna pee in it. In law. And apparently over hydrated. New Mexico.
Chad Wolf
How old was the kid? Do we have an age on this?
Jack Armstrong
I think I said he was 15.
Chad Wolf
16. 16. You're getting a little on the older side for me. Writing it off as youthful hijinks.
Jack Armstrong
No, that's sociopathic. I'm not saying it is, definitely. But I would be curious to know more about the youth.
Chad Wolf
See, I think like 12 year old, it's still weird. I would be very unhappy if my kid did it and worry about them.
Jack Armstrong
But of course, you know, pranks, a long part of baseball lore. I mean, shoe, shoe pooping. I remember back when I played, that was a big thing. Crisco on the bat. A hundred different pranks is all in fun.
Chad Wolf
The old hot foot, maybe, you know, drop a deuce on their sandwich. Just fun, just kids, kids.
Jack Armstrong
It keeps the dugout light, keeps everybody's spirits up, don't you know. So I tell you who spirits are not up. The mainstream media. Right now they are getting absolutely devastated. Not just because they suck. And they do suck. It's financially. We'll explain in moments. Hang out if you can. Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Jack Armstrong
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
Joe Getty
I'm J.R. martinez. I'm a U.S. army veteran myself and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and I Heart podcast from Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal. To Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice.
Jack Armstrong
Advice.
Joe Getty
Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Chad Wolf
We have a brand new Gavin Newsome saying, come arrest me. Okay, cool. Exciting.
Jack Armstrong
Stop arresting. Resisting. Gavin, stop resisting.
Chad Wolf
That's two days in a row you've threatened.
Jack Armstrong
That would be troubling. That's. I've. What? I threaten no one, sir, but the liars with my truth bombs or something.
Chad Wolf
I threatened the liars with my truth bombs.
Jack Armstrong
I mean you. You're like accusing me on the air of threatening a government official, you lunatic.
Chad Wolf
Well, I just don't know.
Jack Armstrong
You can't say that.
Chad Wolf
I don't know how I'm supposed to interpret these things.
Jack Armstrong
You jackass. Hope you're gonna bail me out when Gavin's secret police come for me. So what was. There was something else I was gonna say something serious. Oh, well, we'll have that stuff coming up. This is the brilliant Nellie Bowles of the Free Press writing about a story that was the only thing anybody was talking about for like two days. And that's one of the interesting aspects of the modern world and the 24 hour news cycle and the chaos and madness is just when we're getting anywhere close to making sense of something or truly understanding it, five other things happen and just you move on. I'm talking about the Egyptian immigrant, Islamic supremacist, Jew hating, anti Semite who set fire to those poor Jewish people in Boulder, Colorado.
Chad Wolf
You probably remember that story from Three years ago? What was it, two weeks ago or last week?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. So Nellie Bowles in the Free Press writes Mohammed Solomon, Egyptian immigrant, is accused of firebombing a small weekly vigil in Boulder held for the Israeli hostages. Solomon, who reportedly had a tourist visa, then a work authorization under Biden, both of which had expired. But it was the era of immigration. Yolo. See, we was in Colorado Springs having a blast. Said he did it for Palestine. According to authorities, he was quite direct. Immediately getting back to Nelly. Now, given that reporters are in favor of that movement, the mainstream media had a few options to disappear this one. And they tried them all. First, they tried to make it sound like the opposite. Maybe this was an attack on a protest for Gaza. Ever consider that? And she shows the NBC News headline, multiple Gaza Hostage awareness marchers injured in attack in Boulder. Gaza hostage awareness marchers. Fine. That didn't stick. What about the attacker was a lone wolf whose act had no political implications. You ever thought of how hard it is to make town squares into military grade security corridors? That's the question to ask. Now she's referring to another NBC News headline, lone Wolf Attacks on Jewish Americans in Boulder and D.C. highlight the difficulties in securing public spaces. Those insecure public spaces are the real criminals if you ask me. She says, others asked us to consider whether the elderly Jewish Americans Muhammad allegedly set on fire were truly peaceful. Here's cnn. Wow.
Chad Wolf
Wow. Oh my God, is this going to be cnn? So, so many news sources have gone with, what's happening in LA is peaceful. Now they're going to try to claim this thing in Boulder was not peaceful. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Here's cnn. A man reportedly set people on fire in Boulder, Colorado, leaving multiple individuals injured. The city's police chief said as people gathered for a peaceful pro Israeli demonstration, they put quotes around peaceful.
Chad Wolf
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, we're getting somewhere. Next we just need to forget those charred Colorado Jews and focus on the flamethrowers family. The only victim USA Today chose to profile was the suspected Molotov man's daughter. Quote, boulder suspect's daughter dreamed of studying medicine. Now she faces deportation. Yeah, very smart to keep her centered here. Now we're cooking. ABC News thought it was a good peg to note that Islamophobia is the real problem, not anti Semitism. And I quote ABC News. While some politicians and pro Israeli activists have used anti Semitism as a catch all word for an alleged motive in the attack, the suspect told investigators, quote, this had nothing to do with the Jewish community. Nelly writes, well, that clears it up. Thank you abc. I was worried for a sec, but if it has nothing to do with the Jewish community, I'll just go ahead and stop locking my door. So, in conclusion, nothing happened. It's weird to jump to that conclusion. Potentially Islamophobic. And if it did happen, it's not what you think. Also, do we really want to discourage doctors from. Oh, I'm sorry, that was. Oh, do we really want to discourage young doctors from practicing in America? Sounds anti American if you ask me. Me. And if we get rid of the doctors who will treat the burns of the people who had a Molotov cocktail.
Chad Wolf
Thrown at them, that's pretty good.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it is, it is. Anyway, the media, which is earned most of the derision heaped upon them. I'm not sure they earned this, but it's just interesting from a business perspective. News sites are getting crushed by AI for some reason, the Wall Street Journal says are getting crushed by Google's new AI tools. Well, I guess, okay, I understand why people go to Google still a lot of people, I guess, and say what happened in Colorado Springs? And instead of getting a dozen different news sites links, it gets that AI.
Chad Wolf
Summary, which is what I usually read if I use Google. But now I've kind of moved on to Chat GPT. Although there was a. Who was it? Washington Post, I think, broke down the four top AIs out there and they did not choose ChatGPT as the best one. I forget which one they did, but that app is available also.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I got to dig back into that because I read a long piece that tried like six of them doing six different tasks and the ranks changed like for every task.
Chad Wolf
Right. Which is an excellent point because I am going to use it for mostly just kind of general searches. I'm not an academic or a movie maker or, you know, so I don't need some of the specific stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, it's worth digging into. It probably changes week to week too, as they continue to develop stuff. But anyway, back to the damage done to the poor beleaguered media, which includes us. But although the web search thing doesn't really affect us at all, traffic from search to huffpoes desktop and mobile websites fell by just over half in the past three years. Over half. Wow. And by nearly that much. At the Washington Post, Business Insider cut 21% of its staff last month because of this.
Chad Wolf
Well, every. I hadn't thought about this, but how many fewer news sites have I clicked on just in the last couple of months because of this? Lots and lots.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, 55% website traffic decline between April 22 and 24. Wow.
Chad Wolf
And the problem with that is that is not necessarily good news. I mean we don't want to starve more news outlets into even being crappy.
Jack Armstrong
Or out of existence and depend on Google's probably woke AI to deliver our only view of the world. That troubles me a lot. It's absolutely the Internet which is decimated. Local news just crushed the vitally important localism of media. Now it's even crushing the super giants, the national platforms.
Chad Wolf
I don't know what's going to emerge out of this news wise. It's going to take a while though.
Jack Armstrong
The one practically modernity proof news outlet, the monstrous New York Times. The share of traffic coming from organic search to the papers desktop and mobile website slid 36 and a half percent in April 25 from almost 44%. Oh I see. Okay, so it declined like 8% according to total percentage of their traffic.
Chad Wolf
I mean the closest thing I've got to local news in my small town though there's still a newspaper that I don't subscribe to is next door. And you gotta wade through the. Has anybody seen my cat? Or would anybody like an old sofa to get to, you know, any news?
Jack Armstrong
To paraphrase Willie the gardener on the Simpsons, I ate your cat.
Chad Wolf
Oh, it's an accent.
Jack Armstrong
And your cat pooped on my lawn and I ate that too. Hate, hate. He's a Scotsman.
Chad Wolf
You see Katie, he drops the H. I ate that. He drops the huc. It's a. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So shock at what seemed like a shocking revelation.
Chad Wolf
It's not that much.
Jack Armstrong
So much more mundane. Back to you. I vote we isolate it and use it often.
Chad Wolf
We have a new AI Trump. What I'm looking forward to. Love it when this stuff comes.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you can't. Oh my God.
Chad Wolf
Well, we'll have to discuss this because I.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I'm ready to discuss it and.
Chad Wolf
How I, I'm worried about the not giving it away on some of this AI stuff and where this is headed because people are going to think they heard that they're going to repeat to friends, it's not going to be good.
Jack Armstrong
War of the Worlds etc.
Chad Wolf
Yeah. So we'll, we'll explain what we're talking about coming up next day here.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and style. Sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Jack Armstrong
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
Joe Getty
I'm J.R. martinez. I'm a U.S. army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and I Heart podcast from Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of honor on the iHeartRadio radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Jack Armstrong
My fellow Americans, it is with overwhelming enthusiasm that I am declaring that anyone who protests or interferes with ICE and their operations is officially gay. Big time. With that being said, go ahead and call your dads. Tell them about your alternative lifestyle as a gay communist, and then, who knows, maybe eat a lollipop. I don't know what flamers do with their time, but I'd imagine it's something along those lines. Maybe decorate a bathroom. Who knows? In either case, this is who you are now, and everybody knows that. Cats out of the bag. Cat is out of the bag.
Chad Wolf
Wow. Now, that one's pretty obviously AI because of what he said, but not like, 100%, partially because Trump's such a loose cannon. I mean, you know, if that was George W. Bush, you know, you know, not a chance, but wow. I. I don't know. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the guy who's doing those videos right now, and they're great up in the top left corner, whatever it is, toward the end, it says this is AI. Obviously, his point being, folks, you got to get hip to this, all right? It's the era of anything that could be fake.
Chad Wolf
Get hip to what? Don't believe anything.
Jack Armstrong
Correct.
Chad Wolf
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Don't believe anything from any source. Oh, goody. All right, well, you can believe this. This is one 100% authentic audio. It's time to get to know the protesters. Who are these people smashing stuff up and lighting fires and trying to assault brave police officers and chanting against ICE and the kkk? What? What are they thinking? Let's find out.
Unnamed Protester
We don't agree with the term illegal. We're undocumented. We've been here for thousands of years before you guys showed up. Screw up everything. We think we should organize together with the US Working class and Fight together and create a better system. We're anti capitalist. We think socialism does work. Real socialism. Not Venezuela, not Cuba, not any of that crap that they try to sell us, the socialism. And we believe it would be a more humane system that will take care of most of all, people's necessities.
Jack Armstrong
Woo.
Chad Wolf
There's a lot there.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Chad Wolf
There is a lot there. There are like eight different topics there.
Jack Armstrong
Do you want to delve into any of them?
Chad Wolf
Including the classic socialism works. It just hasn't been tried in its purest form yet. It always gets well started by somebody.
Jack Armstrong
Surely firms up his argument here. Is there a country we can look to to kind of model the socialism idea?
Unnamed Protester
The only model would be Soviet Union. The first four years after that, it became a mess. Sadly, there was a bureaucrat leadership that grew out of that. But it has to do mainly with the attacks of the US and all big powers against that system that was working. In the few years that it lasted, it showed the world that it could do much better than capitalism.
Chad Wolf
All we got to do is hang 1000 kulaks. Lenin said, for somehow, for whatever reason, that early period of the Soviet Union got away with being. No, that worked. That was the Gen. It was when Stalin took over that things got bad. Yeah, okay. No.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I feel like. Can I sum it up? The strength to even respond to that argument. It's like that whole, no, socialism hasn't been done right yet. If you do it right, I put it right up there with fashioning shoes out of sliced salami. Just hasn't been done right. If you use sausage casing as the laces, crummy shoes could really work.
Chad Wolf
Oh, I feel like a hot summer day. That would get a little gamey.
Jack Armstrong
People still arguing that, no, no, no, socialism will work. Oh, good Lord.
Chad Wolf
You know, rather than argue this because there's no point, maybe the important thing is, like you say, a lot of these people on the streets are, you know, are Marxists or communists or whatever. They actually believe that as.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, let's compare and contrast. I think this might be useful. This is a woman. I think she makes it clear herself, is a lawful immigrant to the United States of America.
Unnamed Legal Immigrant
Michael, I am a legal immigrant and I want to tell you something. I'm disgust by what people from other countries like Mexico are doing right now in my new country. I came from Mexico. I came legally. I have worked all my life here to get what I have. I didn't come here to get something from the government. I came for an opportunity and I got It. And I have the American dream. What about all of those people protesting in California and New York? What are they doing? They are burning the city. If you don't like to be deported and you want to stay here, you have to have your best behavior, not the worst behavior. You think that we want you here with that behavior of burning cars, burning the entire city?
Jack Armstrong
Why?
Unnamed Legal Immigrant
And for the people that are defending this violent attackers, people that don't deserve to be here, Shame on you. You are waving the flag of another country that you love.
Jack Armstrong
Go.
Unnamed Legal Immigrant
You don't need to be here. You don't deserve to be here. You don't deserve another opportunity in this country because apparently you don't love this country like I do. So go away.
Chad Wolf
Yeah, I don't understand why that nuance, it doesn't seem very complicated. Isn't more prevalent in the Democratic Party? Lots of Hispanics don't like illegals either.
Jack Armstrong
Boy, that little gal went pinata on those socialist scumbags, didn't she? Love that. Absolutely love that. You know, we haven't talked about San Francisco.
Chad Wolf
You're. You're pretty. You like. You got a little. Little shot of endorphins out of that, didn't you?
Jack Armstrong
What?
Chad Wolf
The whole pinata thing. You.
Jack Armstrong
You. Useful metaphor.
Chad Wolf
You're feeling good about yourself.
Jack Armstrong
So the protest spread to San Francisco, testing the resolve of the new mayor who's doing a fabulous job. Daniel Lurie ran as a moderate Democrat and he's cleaning streets fast as they can. So thousands of people marched for miles Monday night before police declared an unlawful assembly around 10 o' clock. Contingent refused to disperse, appeared to resist arrest and were met with force by the sfpd. Shout out to our friends in the San Francisco Police Department who warned they would deploy chemical agents, batons and projectiles if anyone else tried to flee.
Chad Wolf
Sticks.
Jack Armstrong
And listen to this.
Chad Wolf
I had a friend in college who got in fights a lot. He always said, nobody's tougher than a stick.
Jack Armstrong
Distracting me. That and that statement came after about 150 arrests by San Francisco police on Sunday. More than double the number reported by the cops in la. The takeaway so far? The city is seeing a new era. Era? The city of San Francisco.
Chad Wolf
Awesome.
Jack Armstrong
Dan. Lori ain't putting up with that s. Love it. Way to go, Mr. Mayor. You have our full support.
Chad Wolf
I'm just curious at what you're laughing at, Katie.
Jack Armstrong
What.
Chad Wolf
What struck you as funny in our conversation?
Jack Armstrong
I'm trying so hard to put it down, but you. Baton sticks. Well, I'm like Elon Musk. Chainsaw. That's exactly where my brain went.
Chad Wolf
I'm pro sticks. I am pro stick when it comes to law and order. If you have to. If you. It's your last resort. You just got so juiced. Yeah, damn right, I did stick. If you miss a segment, we do four hours every day. If you missed a segment or an hour, get the podcast. You should subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
Jack Armstrong
That's some good advice right there. Well done, Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Jack Armstrong
This medal is for the men who went down that day.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "Drop A Deuce On Their Sandwich" – Detailed Summary
Release Date: June 10, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
The episode kicks off with Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty setting the stage for a discussion loaded with political commentary, societal observations, and sharp critiques of contemporary issues. While the podcast typically celebrates heroism through stories like the Medal of Honor, this episode diverges into a fervent debate about protests, law enforcement, media integrity, and the rising influence of artificial intelligence.
The conversation delves deep into the nature of recent protests, particularly focusing on violent acts juxtaposed against claims of peaceful demonstrations.
Chad Wolf, a guest and former DHS Secretary, initiates the discourse by criticizing the portrayal of law enforcement actions as the root cause of unrest. He argues that violent opportunists exploit situations, stating:
"They’re actually saying law enforcement and the ability to carry out lawful orders is what has caused this... [instead of] putting the fault where it lies, which is you've got violent opportunists... causing a lot of violent activity." (00:58)
Jack Armstrong counters by highlighting the discrepancies in labeling protests as peaceful, emphasizing acts of violence such as concrete and rock throwing, car fires, and assaults on local police rather than federal authorities. He remarks:
"Some may say these are peaceful demonstrations, but a lot of them are not... It's a terrible look for Democrats." (02:45)
The hosts critique media figures like Brit Hume and John Miller for their perceived bias, suggesting that even within political lines, there's a reluctance to condemn violent protesters adequately. They also touch upon the complexities of defining and addressing anarchism and Marxism within protest movements.
Shifting gears, the podcast examines a peculiar legal loophole in New Mexico regarding battery laws. The hosts discuss a recent incident where a 16-year-old admitted to contaminating an opposing team's water jug during a JV baseball game.
"In New Mexico, battery consists of the unlawful touching of another person in a rude and insolent manner. So in this case, we don't have any touching of another person... it's not a crime in New Mexico." (15:18)
Chad Wolf humorously critiques the state's lax stance, contrasting it with reactions to similar misconduct elsewhere:
"Former prosecutor and current state senator Mo Maestis disagrees. 'If I spit in somebody's hamburger and they take a bite, that's a battery.'" (16:31)
The discussion highlights inconsistencies in legal repercussions for youth behavior, questioning the state's regulatory environment and its impact on broader societal issues.
Armstrong and Getty transition to a critical analysis of the media landscape, attributing significant decline in traffic and influence to the advent of AI-driven tools like Google's new AI features.
"News sites are getting crushed by AI for some reason... traffic from search to huffpoes desktop and mobile websites fell by just over half in the past three years." (25:01)
They lament the dwindling presence of traditional news outlets, citing layoffs and reduced readership. The hosts express concern over the consolidation of information through AI summaries, fearing a homogenization of perspectives and a loss of nuanced reporting.
A standout segment features what appears to be an AI-generated imitation of former President Donald Trump, delivering a vehement denunciation of protesters and ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement). The synthetic speech vehemently labels protesters with derogatory terms and mocks their actions.
"My fellow Americans, it is with overwhelming enthusiasm that I am declaring that anyone who protests or interferes with ICE and their operations is officially gay. Big time." (30:00)
Chad Wolf identifies this as an AI creation, highlighting the challenges of discerning authentic versus synthesized content:
"Now, that one's pretty obviously AI because of what he said, but not like, 100%, partially because Trump's such a loose cannon." (31:28)
The hosts discuss the implications of AI-generated content on public discourse, emphasizing the need for vigilance against disinformation and the erosion of trust in genuine communication.
The conversation further explores the ideological underpinnings of contemporary protest movements, debating the viability and historical precedents of socialism and anarchism.
An Unnamed Protester articulates a vision of organized, anti-capitalist activism aimed at societal overhaul:
"We think we should organize together with the US Working class and fight together and create a better system. We're anti-capitalist... we believe it would be a more humane system." (32:32)
Jack Armstrong and Chad Wolf dissect these viewpoints, questioning the practicality and historical success of such ideologies. They critique the persistence of flawed socialist models and express skepticism about the cohesiveness of anarchist philosophies.
The episode returns to on-the-ground reports of protests in San Francisco, applauding Mayor Daniel Lurie's efforts in maintaining order amid escalating tensions.
"Thousands of people marched for miles Monday night before police declared an unlawful assembly... San Francisco Police Department warned they would deploy chemical agents, batons, and projectiles if anyone else tried to flee." (37:13)
Armstrong commends the police response and Mayor Lurie's leadership, contrasting it with earlier segments that criticized law enforcement's handling of protests.
As the episode nears its end, Armstrong and Wolf touch upon the relentless pace of the news cycle and the challenges of maintaining coherent narratives amidst chaos. They reinforce their commitment to providing unfiltered commentary, encouraging listeners to stay informed through their platform despite the evolving media landscape.
Chad Wolf (00:58): "They’re actually saying law enforcement and the ability to carry out lawful orders is what has caused this...instead of putting the fault where it lies, which is you've got violent opportunists... causing a lot of violent activity."
Jack Armstrong (02:45): "Some may say these are peaceful demonstrations, but a lot of them are not... It's a terrible look for Democrats."
Joe Getty (14:25): "The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves."
Unnamed Protester (32:32): "We think we should organize together with the US Working class and fight together and create a better system. We're anti-capitalist... we believe it would be a more humane system."
AI-Generated Trump Imitation (30:00): "Anyone who protests or interferes with ICE and their operations is officially gay. Big time."
"Drop A Deuce On Their Sandwich" serves as a fervent exploration of the tumultuous interplay between protests, political ideologies, law enforcement, and media integrity. Armstrong and Getty leverage sharp rhetoric and critical analysis to dissect the complexities of modern societal conflicts, urging listeners to question prevailing narratives and remain steadfast in their pursuit of truth amidst a rapidly changing informational landscape.
For more insightful discussions and in-depth analyses, subscribe to "Armstrong & Getty On Demand" on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.