Effeminate Dwarves

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Effeminate Dwarves"

Date: March 20, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty dive deeply into historical parallels in wartime decision-making, offer sharp commentary on recent political developments, especially regarding Gavin Newsom’s wife, and analyze signs of Iran’s position in the ongoing conflict. They blend humor, dry skepticism, and genuine concern over world affairs, all while weaving in pop culture references and engaging banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. March Madness and Tucker Carlson

• The show opens with light "bracket busting" talk as Jack laments Wisconsin's surprising loss in the NCAA tournament ([03:21]).
• Conversation pivots to Tucker Carlson, with Armstrong expressing alarm at Carlson’s inflammatory content and referencing a “Saturday Night Live” parody of Carlson ([03:40]).

2. Historical Revisionism: Churchill, FDR, and Tucker Carlson's Assertions

• The hosts critique Tucker Carlson’s claim that Churchill imprisoned the opposition during WWII, reading a detailed rebuttal from British commentator Konstantin Kisin ([08:55]).
  • Kisin’s rebuttal quote:

    "Tucker is amazing at confidently delivering absolute lies... Churchill led a National government that is one that included leaders of the opposition parties in prominent roles... The person Tucker is talking about is Oswald Mosley... head of the British Union of Fascists..." ([08:55])

• Jack and Joe elaborate on Mosley's status and Britain's restraint during WWII.
• Joe recommends Five Days in London, May 1940 by John Lukacs for exceptional insight into Britain’s critical wartime decisions ([10:58]).

3. Historical Context: How Close the Allies Came to Defeat in WWII

• Discussion about Churchill’s early doubts and the miraculous evacuation at Dunkirk, emphasizing the fragility of Allied fortunes ([12:17]).
  • Armstrong’s reflection:

    "The evacuation of Dunkirk was a miracle. The British army would have been decimated... a couple turns of the weather and an enormous coming together..." ([12:17])

• The hosts lament how modern understanding of WWII often glosses over the true peril Britain faced ([12:44]).

4. American Public Opinion and Fascism in the Interwar Period

• Joe notes the historical reluctance of Americans to support Britain or enter WWII, attributing it to lingering isolationist sentiment ([13:28]).
• Armstrong adds context about the widespread appeal of fascism—seen as a bulwark against communism—even in the U.S. ([14:12]).

5. Gavin Newsom’s Wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, in the Spotlight

• Armstrong launches into a critical, often mocking, assessment of Jennifer Siebel Newsom, calling her a “dedicated Neo Marxist” and referencing her penchant for “upper class twit promoting revolution” behavior ([19:04]).
• Clips play of Siebel Newsom's public remarks on activism and the role of a “first partner” ([19:51], [20:40], [22:22]).
  • Notable Siebel quote:

    "It's not always a woman behind a man, but the partnership is what's important and that partnership will make the world go round." ([19:56])

  • Joe’s reaction:

    "I hated this when Bill and Hillary ran on, you get two for the price of one." ([20:26])

  • Armstrong, sarcastically:

    "It would be like a gold mine, at the bottom of which was a productive oil well that accidentally shed diamonds off as it pumped the oil." ([15:04])

• They debate the role of spouses in politics, expressing skepticism and fatigue at the “two for the price of one” mentality ([22:01]).

6. Iran War Analysis & Victor Davis Hanson’s Insights

• Trump’s claim that Iran’s military is completely obliterated prompts the hosts to examine media and political narratives about Iran’s strength ([27:06]).
• Joe summarizes Victor Davis Hanson’s argument that observable global diplomatic shifts indicate Iran is seen as the losing side, citing European, Gulf state, and regional alignments ([32:03]).
  • Quote from VDH (paraphrased):

    “Europeans never agree to go near a conflict unless they think the winning side has already been determined. They didn't help in the early days. Now they’re starting to move.” ([32:03])

• Discussion around the symbolism of American aircraft freely operating in Iranian airspace ([33:18]).

  • “You only deploy those aircraft when there is effectively no air defense left to threaten them. Pentagon says Iran has no meaningful air defense left.” ([34:03])

7. Kissinger on NATO and ‘Effeminate Dwarves’

• Drawing from Kissinger’s critique of European defense reliance, Armstrong describes NATO as “one giant and six dwarfs. Not even particularly brawny dwarfs. Like weedy, effeminate dwarfs” ([35:49]).
  • Memorable quote:

    "NATO is one giant and six dwarfs. Not even particularly brawny dwarfs. Like weedy, effeminate dwarfs. Yes. No good in a fight." ([35:49])

• They underscore how traditional allies have ceded responsibility, relying on U.S. military strength ([36:29]).

8. How Wars End & Uncertainty in Conflict

• History lesson on the persistence of defeated regimes, referencing Germany in WWII and Hitler’s last days ([37:53]).

  • “How incredibly defeated was Germany and he still had to go all the way to freaking Berlin to end it, right?” ([37:53])

• They debate what the “rump” regime in Iran could look like, stressing that endgames in war are rarely clean or predictable ([37:31]).

9. Lighter Segment: Afroman’s Lawsuit & Police Misconduct

• The hosts recount rapper Afroman’s use of video footage (from a police raid) to create mocking music videos—leading to a high-profile defamation case ([41:26]).
  • Armstrong:

    “He used a lot of his home security video and video his wife took… of the bust in a bunch of music videos mocking the cops.” ([41:26])

  • They also describe police misconduct being exposed during the trial, including abuse of power and sexual harassment ([44:22]).

10. Final Thoughts:

• Reflections on Chuck Norris’ death ([45:29]).
• LeBron James breaking NBA records while still performing at a high level ([46:02]).
• Armstrong closes with skepticism about Siebel Newsom’s Stanford MBA credentials. ([46:32])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Armstrong (on Siebel Newsom):

  “She is a dedicated Neo Marxist… She is what Matt Taibbi described as an upper class twit promoting revolution.” ([19:04])

• Joe Getty (on politics):

  “What other area of life ever do you hire somebody, choose someone with the husband or wife as part of the deal? Nobody does that.” ([22:01])

• On Iran:

  “You only deploy those aircraft when there’s effectively no air defense left to threaten them... Iran has no meaningful air defense remaining.” ([34:03])

• Armstrong (NATO):

  “One giant and six dwarfs. Not even particularly brawny dwarfs. Like weedy, effeminate dwarfs. Yes. No good in a fight.” ([35:49])

• Victor Davis Hanson (paraphrased via Joe):

  “When the Gulf states expel Iranian military attachés, intercept missiles, say nothing about American strikes, reaffirm investments... they are placing bets.” ([32:16])

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Important Timestamps

• Brackets & NCAA upsets: [03:21]
• Tucker Carlson critique/SNL reference: [04:06]
• Churchill/WWII/Historical facts & Kisin rebuttal: [08:55–10:58]
• Dunkirk & WWII context: [12:17–13:09]
• Siebel Newsom clips/reactions: [19:51–23:21]
• Iran War Analysis/VDH: [32:03–34:03]
• Kissinger/NATO/Effeminate dwarfs: [35:49]
• Afroman lawsuit: [41:26–45:26]
• Final thoughts: [45:26–46:50]

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Overall Tone & Style

The episode is classic Armstrong & Getty: rapid-fire, irreverent, sometimes cynical, but rooted in historical perspective and studded with pop culture humor. Their skepticism applies equally to media narratives, political activism, and international affairs. Discussions are peppered with tangential riffs and biting sarcasm, especially regarding politicians and pundits.

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For New Listeners

This episode encapsulates the Armstrong & Getty experience: a blend of smart skepticism, playful banter, and hard-earned historical insight—perfect for listeners who want news, history, and opinion, but can also appreciate the hosts’ disdain for political theater and media hype. If you want to understand the big issues without the noise, this is your show.

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Are you kidding me?

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio

[Jack Armstrong]

studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Guest or Caller]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't have Wisconsin losing to that unknown team in my bracket. My bracket's already busted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Damn it. Damn it. You and most everybody. I remember after two games I saw the stat that there were only 33% perfect brackets left.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Two games? Yeah. One of them was an upset. Yeah. And there you go. The the call from when High Point University beat Wisconsin Round 1125 upset. So Tucker Carlson has lost his mind or become evil or something. Great example of that. Recently posted. I'm still mystified by Tucker.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, everybody is including his friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, fair enough. So we've got a lot of stuff, really good stuff to stuff into. That's a lot of stuff stuffed into that sentence.

[Joe Getty]

Did anybody see the guy doing Tucker Carlson on Saturday Night Live? He was really, really good. Gotta check that out. One of the new cast members does a Tucker that's pretty funny and subtle. I like the subtle impersonations. Very, very good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gavin Newsom's Marxist wife is really feeling her oats and and speaking out on all sorts of different topics and it's enjoyable as hell. So we'll be playing some of that audio as well. But first, the cherished Friday tradition. Let's take fun. Look back at the week that was it's cow Clips of the week.

[Joe Getty]

Clips of the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Venezuela the best in BAS.

[Joe Getty]

We will see you in the round of 32. Oh wanna feel it Living Pound cake.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pound cake. You were called Officer Pound Cake multiple times. You sleep hundreds of pound cakes at work.

[Guest or Caller]

We're all on a spectrum, right? It's just how society kind of pushes us and pressures us into these limiting gender roles.

[Jack Armstrong]

Aura is a low key center. Why do you not use capital letters? And as I said it, I felt myself develop osteoporosis like from how old I was. Governor of Texas Greg Abbott coming out

[Joe Getty]

saying we are not going to do

[Jack Armstrong]

Cesar Chavez day which was planning he

[Joe Getty]

believed in non violence except against 13 year old girls if he was horny.

[Guest or Caller]

I do believe I'll be the honor of having the honor of taking Cuba.

[Jack Armstrong]

He told the media that I was a freaking snake. You support the felonious violent attack on me from behind. I did not say I supported it. I said I understood it. That monster storm triggering major flight disruptions. Our people are hurting every single day. We have individuals sleeping in their cars, drawing blood to afford to pay for

[Guest or Caller]

gas to get to work. We've not yet seen any proof of

[Jack Armstrong]

life from Moshtab Hamanai, the last job anyone in the world wants right now, senior leader for the IRGC temp jobs.

[Joe Getty]

He went down the stairs. He was headed outside for something he had to like.

[Jack Armstrong]

As Iran keeps its iron grip on the Strait of Hormuz.

[Guest or Caller]

We didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Okay, why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Chuck Norris doesn't listen to Armstrong and Gettysburg. Armstrong and Getty listen to Chuck Norris.

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[Joe Getty]

The great Chuck Norris passed away while we were on the air today

[Jack Armstrong]

and the president made a Pearl harbor joke in front of the Japanese prime minister. Those two things happened. And other things, I just came across

[Joe Getty]

something good I'm going to get to later. Victor Davis Hansen, historian, who Joe has dined with.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have indeed. And tried desperately to come off as a non idiot with yes on obvious

[Joe Getty]

signs that we are really past the tipping point of winning the war with Iran. And it really makes a lot of sense. Good stuff. We'll get to later this hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Love, vdh. Much respect. So speaking of historians, this is extraordinary.

[Joe Getty]

Let's just.

[Jack Armstrong]

First of all, this is just posted, I think yesterday or the day before on Tucker Carlson's network Twitter feed. I'm sorry, Michael.

[Guest or Caller]

Number nine, Winston Churchill, who I know were required to deify, presided over the imprisonment of his opposition party during the entire length of the war. And their families and their wives, they were rotting in prison away from their little kids, in some cases their infants. And their crime was being the opposition party and being disloyal and unpatriotic. They weren't. The opposition party was led by a first World War war hero who fought not just as, you know, a pilot in the sky, but and in the trenches, like one of the great war heroes for a member of parliament the country ever produced. And he and his wife and his compatriots and their wives interned without charges by Winston Churchill for the duration of the war. And that happened in Britain, which is like much more humane than a lot of places. FDR interned the Japanese, including American citizens. That stuff happens during war. And so I think we should be on guard.

[Joe Getty]

So what was his ultimate point? Are we about to intern someone, internment camp someone.

[Jack Armstrong]

This stuff happens during war about to happen.

[Joe Getty]

I watched the whole Tucker Carlson thing with Joe Kent and they got into a lot of that stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let me read the reply from Constantine Kissen, who is a Brit who I am very, very fond of. He says credit where it's due. Tucker is amazing at confidently delivering absolute lies. Here he is claiming the Churchill locked up members of the opposition party during WW2, when in fact Churchill led a National government that is one that included leaders of the opposition parties in prominent roles. Labor leader Clement Attlee was appointed Churchill's deputy, and other leading labor and Liberal politicians held major roles in the cabinet. The person Tucker is talking about is Oswald Mosley, who was the leader of the British Union of Fascists and was not elected to anything. He wanted Britain to become a fascist country and worked with Hitler. Work with Hitler. Despite this, contrary to Tucker's claims, he was not detained for the full duration of the war and was released in 1943, two years before it ended. In most other countries he would have been hanged for treason without a second thought the day the war started. Britain's treatment of this tiny group of fascists, that is Enemy sympathizers and collaborators during WWII is an example of extraordinary restraint and respect for the sanctity of human life and freedom that was not only unparalleled in the world at the time, but arguably remains rare and hugely admirable even by the standards of today across most of the world. In short, Tucker is completely wrong and we can only conclude that the spreading of these malicious lies is motivated not only by his ignorance of history, but but also by the fact that he will say anything he deems necessary to suit his political agenda. His opposition to the current war in Iran, about which I myself have expressed some skepticism, does not justify this behavior and is in fact undermined by it. No right thinking person can take him seriously after this and the context, the reader context, the notes on Twitter, I still call it Twitter post mostly was not a leader of the UK opposition. He was head of the British Union of Fascists who married his wife at the home of Joseph, Joseph Goebbels and later was described as a Jew baiting Nazi apologist, blah blah blah. There's dreams of evidence for that.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, while we're on the topic, I have been listening to this book. I was unaware of this book. I don't know when it came out. Man, if you're a World War II person and you haven't read or listened to Five Days in London, May 1940 by John Lucas. Man, is that good stuff. But it is, it's. It's inside the British government during like a two week period, specifically five days, but where they were going to go one way or the other. They were going to either fight the Nazis or surrender. And. And they had to get a new prime Minister because that was all falling apart. And Winston gets elected and he's got some quotes in there I'd never heard before. Right after Winston Churchill gets elected and he's Prime Minister, he gets into the car, he's driving, and this was a quote from the driver saying, congratulations to Winston. And Churchill had tears in his eyes and he said, yeah, the only problem is I think it's too late. I mean, he, as optimistic as he was, thought it was too late to turn things around. But they were going to be defeated by Hitler and the Nazis actually thought it was too late. They were going to lose something during that period of time with Dunkirk and the evacuation and all that sort of stuff, if you're a World War II guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah, I would describe him more as resolute than optimistic because it was so dark. Oh, my God. The evacuation of Dunkirk was a miracle. A miracle. The British army would have been decimated. And just a couple of turns of the weather and an enormous coming together of all sorts of civilian and military efforts, evacuated hundreds of thousands of troops. Yeah, that was work. Dark days.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I'd say it's a, It's a. It's amazing that we don't recognize that more. It's just so easy. I mean, I think about young people. I know. And it's just kind of a. You know, Hitler attacked people and we defeated them and you move on. It wasn't like how close Europe came to being under the sway of Nazi Germany for decades, forever, who knows?

[Jack Armstrong]

Mm. Yeah. Yeah. God knows what that would have looked like.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, that's. I realize it's been done, but that's a pretty good alternative history project.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What would the Nazi Empire have looked like across Europe? How about 10 years after its establishment? What would the resistance look like?

[Joe Getty]

You know, and during that period of time before we were in the war. One thing that they do a good job of at the World War II Museum there in New Orleans that I went to is they have the polling, public opinion polling as you walk through the museum, month by month, day by day, year by year. And man, the. The US Was not into coming to Great Britain's aid until way late. We were perfectly okay with them being taken over for whatever reason coming out of, you know, not that long before World War I and everything, and just an isolationist attitude and all and all. But there was no enthusiasm for helping out Great Britain or France from getting run over by the Nazis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, there was enormous enthusiasm for fascism as a counter to communism, partly in Europe and in the US like everywhere around the world, people were seriously taking fascism. Well, seriously taking it seriously as a political system that might be necessary. Lot of the intellectuals of the day in the US who weren't communists were thinking, you know, it's unfortunate you got to be so tough, but it takes being tough to be effective. I'm down with the fascist thing.

[Joe Getty]

Joe has got some clips that I haven't heard yet of Gavin Newsom's old lady.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Who might end up being the first lady of the United States of America. I don't want that for my country politically. As a radio talk show host, I kind of want him to win and have her be in the White House, but not as a citizen of the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

It would be like a gold mine, at the bottom of which was a productive oil well that accidentally shed diamonds off as it pumped the oil. It would be a miracle and, yes, a horror for the country. So Jennifer Siebel, Marxist, coming up in a couple of minutes.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's a good nickname. Okay, that and other stuff on the way. Stay here.

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code iheart20 the wife of Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, is a handful of things. She is a dedicated Neo Marxist, whether she knows it or not. Straight out of the critical theory school. She's the worst sort of limousine liberal. She is artist. She is what Matt Taibbi described as an upper class twit promoting revolution.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like you're not appreciating her art,

[Jack Armstrong]

but is super enthusiastic about it and also has Jack, a bit of hot chick syndrome. Very attractive gal. So all of her jokes have been laughed at and people have nodded their heads as if she's saying something very profound most of her life. We have a couple of samples. She's out and proud now, talking to the press and doing all sorts of stuff. We'll start with 80. Michael.

[Guest or Caller]

I don't know if our country is ready for first partner.

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Okay.

[Guest or Caller]

Sadly, I don't know if they are. I'd like to think, and I'm going to work really, really, really, really hard for people to see what's been rendered invisible and devalued in our society and to go, oh, that's actually important. It's not always a woman behind a man, but the partnership is what's important and that partnership will make the world go round.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's implying she wants to be like an activist, a real activist partner to the President.

[Joe Getty]

I hated this when Bill and Hillary ran on, you get two for the price of one.

[Jack Armstrong]

And here I'm told it's not only obnoxious, it's pretty incomprehensible. Let's roll that one, Michael.

[Guest or Caller]

That said I, you know, I have respect for institutions. California is sort of this petri dish of innovation. I threw it out as a whim to everybody when we were in the transition period and they were like, they kind of like liked it, they thought it was cool. And I was like, okay. And so if not me, hopefully somebody someday will continue to assert and stand up so that more people see the value of the partnership and the value of the care and that that person, whether it's a man, a woman, you know, gender non conforming individual, that they're critical to that person's success and that they're part of the other life, that other life of theirs that allows them to lead, that allows them to be successful.

[Joe Getty]

Stop.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's great. That's totally cool. I get that. I should probably mingle, circulate a little bit. So great to meet you.

[Joe Getty]

That's like, yeah, it's like the Saturday Night Live Seth Meyers woman you got stuck talking to at a party. That is, that is exactly what it's like. So, you know, if it's a wife or a husband or a gender non conforming individual, I, I again, I hated this back in 92 when Bill ran on it with Hillary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two for the price.

[Joe Getty]

What I just whatever. What other area of life ever do you hire somebody? Choose someone with. With the husband or wife is part of the deal. Nobody does that. Your police chief, your CEO, you're nothing. No. In no other area of life do you do this.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, I really want to squeeze in the last one. Go ahead.

[Guest or Caller]

You know, just because you're giving me the opportunity to just talk about two amazing first ladies. Three Jill Biden, Michelle Obama, and Hillary Clinton have demonstrated what's possible when you give a really strong, smart, and powerful freedom to be herself. I'm not saying that actually Secretary Clinton or Michelle Obama or even Jill have that much freedom because I know there are a lot of constraints on just women generally in leadership, but especially a first lady. But I think that it is exciting to see the partnership and the respect between two individuals who bring something unique and different and are demonstrating to the world the value of the feminine and the value of the woman next to the man. Having a voice and having a platform where she can help people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Si se Podway. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Gavin. Either Gavin has acknowledged it or people around him, like somebody who would be his chief of staffer or is like that, you know, run his campaign, realize she is going to be a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's not gonna have bimbo eruptions, although he certainly had plenty of those. He's gonna have Jennifer eruptions during his campaign.

[Joe Getty]

He definitely, definitely is. Especially in a general election.

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[Guest or Caller]

We've obliterated there just about everything there is to obliterate, including leadership. Their Navy's gone. Their Air Force is gone. Their anti aircraft equipment is gone. We're flying wherever we want, Pete. We have no nobody even shooting at us. Their leaders are gone. They pick new leaders, they're gone. They pick new leaders, they're gone. And now they're looking for new leaders again.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's Donald Trump yesterday. He's trying to combat, I think to a certain extent the well, I'll read the New York Post editorial board headline today was Ignore the media's hysteria. Iran's reduced to tactics of desperation. You'd never know it from media reports, but the Iranian regime is struggling to survive what's left of it. And the idea that the media is acting like Iran is either winning or battling us to a draw, which is is doesn't appear to be the case.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I think that's hard to claim that, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Why Trump was saying that. We'll get to. So a little more news of what's happening right now with the war and then some really interesting analysis on how close we might be to the end of it. Ian Bremmer tweeted out yesterday the United States threatening Iran with additional destruction is no longer a deterrent for Iran's remaining leaders. I wonder if that's true. It's just like, good, good. You know, you're going to keep bombing the crap out of us. We know they're dead end or religious fanatics.

[Jack Armstrong]

That would make sense.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I don't, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got one more question for you. After he said, nobody's even shooting at us. Do we know more about that stealth fighter that was hit? I think it was yesterday. And believed to have been hit by Iranian fire.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I don't know much about fog of war.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. They got off shocking because those stealth fighters are practically invisible to radar.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Victor Davis Hansen kind of gets into that a little bit here in a second, which I think will make sense. A couple other points of note. There have been a couple of rockets hit really close to your holiest of holy sites there in the old city of Jerusalem. And one reporter at least is wondering if this is on purpose. It's starting to look. Well, I'll read the original one. This map of Jerusalem shows how a black rectangle marking the Temple Mount, the site of the Dome of the Rock. The red dots indicate the approximate locations of Iranian missile impacts in Israel's capital over the last two weeks. Could the IRGC actually be trying to hit the Al Aqsa Mosque, one of the holiest sites in all of Islam. And some deranged Hail Mary attempt to frame Israel for damaging it and, you know, rouse all Muslims around the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

With video here showing this cluster munition that flew directly over the Al Aqsa mosque and landed just 200 meters away. The shell would have destroyed the domes. So there's some belief that they think that by destroying the holiest site in their religion, they can somehow get Muslims all worked up about. I don't know, I wondered that when I saw some bombs be hit close to the. Some other historic. You know, they're for Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Some of the most holy sites in the entire planet are right there within a couple of blocks of each other. And a rocket hit close by and everybody's like, what were you trying to hit there? Was that a stray? But now there have been a whole Bunch of them hit nearby.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've got to remind yourself, yeah, they're a government, but they're also a death cult. So there's really no. No tactic, no move they wouldn't make. That's. Oh, that would be too desperate and bizarre.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just really, you can't say that.

[Joe Getty]

Now getting to Victor Davis Hansen and his explanation of how he thinks we're close to the end. I thought this was really interesting. Victor Davis Hansen, he's a historian. We've had him on the air a few times. He's written some really great books. He has spent 50 years studying how wars end, man. His book, the Father of Us all, about just about war in general, how it's just always existed, always will exist, and it's just part of the human condition is really good. But he has been studying wars his entire life, going back to the ancient wars. So his argument isn't based on what the Pentagon is saying in news reports. It's based on how everyone else is behaving, starting with the Europeans. Victor Davis Hansen says Europeans never agree to go anywhere near a conflict unless they think the winning side has already been determined. They didn't help in the early days. Now they're starting to move. That movement is not idealism, it's a calculation. They've looked at the battlefield and decided which way this ends. That's pretty interesting. Why did the Europeans all of a sudden sign on to that letter with Japan yesterday? VDH thinks it's because they've determined we're gonna win, Iran's gonna fall, and they want to be on the winning side of it. I got a great thing I didn't get to round a reading. It's from the Kissinger biography that Neil Ferguson wrote and it's from 66, late 60s and Kissinger saying even in the 60s, how Europe is of no help and will never come to our help under any circumstances and we need to stop picking up the bulk of the tab for all world defense because they've just caught on to the fact that we'll always do it and they don't have to. And that was in 68 or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

He said, oh, you're so right. Anyway, I hope they don't design an entire society around that fact and have a giant bloated welfare state and completely choke their economies off.

[Joe Getty]

So it's not just the Europeans that may have recognized how this war is going to turn out. The Gulf Petro nations, the Saudis, the Emiratis, the Qataris. These governments have survived for generations by reading the regional climate with precision. When they expel Iranian military attaches, when they intercept Iranian missiles over their own capitals and say nothing about American strikes, when the UAE reaffirms its $1.4 trillion investment commitment to the United States mid war, they are not making ideological statements, they are placing bets and they are betting in the United States is going to win this thing. That's an interesting one. And then this one, Morning Joe Scarborough on MSNBC the other day was reading this Al Jazeera news report. This is the one that should stop you cold. Al Jazeera, the Qatari state media network historically critical of American military action, the network that Tucker Carlson and the anti war right love to cite against Israel, is now calling the U. S. Bombing campaign brilliant and effective and saying it has been underestimated. When the media outlet of a nation that hosts both the largest American air base in the Mideast and a Hamas political office starts praising American military effectiveness, this message is unmistakable. They think we are going to win. And then a military signal that he said is important. The A10 Warthogs and Apache helicopter gunships are now flying strike missions in Iranian airspace at will. You only deploy those aircraft when there is effectively no air defense left to threaten them. They're slow, low flying close support platforms. Their presence confirms what the Pentagon has been claiming. Iran has no meaningful air defense remaining. Iran's strategy is now rope a dope, run out the clock, wait for American public to shift, hope the midterms create political pressure on Trump to stop. It's the only play they have left.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought all that made analysis.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I thought all of that made really good logical sense. The way Europe's behaving, the way the countries around Iran's behaving and the fact that we're flying low, low, low, flying slow aircraft around Iran now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Yeah, that stuff about the Gulf states is so clearly true. You know, as I'm always saying, you don't have friends in the Middle east, you just have transactional relationships. And I remember of all people, Osama bin Laden saying, you know, in their culture, you always back the strong horse. I mean, you root for the strong to triumph. And they're looking at the equation, making the obvious conclusion.

[Joe Getty]

Here is the, here's the thing. Henry Kissinger wrote in 1968 about Europe and us taking the role of the world's policeman and all that. It is neither, it is in neither our interest nor that of Europe that Europe become the Greece to our Rome, a political backwater. Interesting culturally, but Unable to play an active role. This would not be. This would not be healthy for us because hedging me, being the main power is an influence, is demoralizing in the long run. I'm urging that the only way we can maintain our influences by reducing our formal predominance. The present system encourages too many of our allies to shift the costs and responsibilities of the common defense to us. Kissinger recognized that that was happening in the late 60s and was going to happen if. If unless we could turn it around, I don't know how we would have changed it. We. You'd have had it. You'd had to have a Trump who badmouth them all the time and said, hey, we ain't going to rescue you anymore. You need to pony up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The bluntness of Trump, which is way too much sometimes, I think that was perfectly well placed with NATO and long overdue. And the way the, you know, foreign policy establishment, and especially the media reacted to all that, oh, he's dishonoring NATO. He's gonna blow up NATO. What is NATO? NATO is one giant and six dwarfs. Not even particularly brawny dwarfs. Like weedy, effeminate dwarfs. Yes. No good in a fight. Boy, that's funny. Kissinger was just so right.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's obvious what's going on, but it's like there's one town, you know, it's kind of a big town, but it has a really robust police force and it's willing to help the towns around it. After a while, those towns start thinking, you know, having a police force is expensive. We could have, like, nicer parks and pay ourselves more and all. Let's get a big swimming pool. And every time there's a crime, we'll call America Heights and say, hey, can you send a couple of cars over there? Because they always do it. Before long, they don't have a police force at all. They got like, one Barney Fife with a car that doesn't run.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

All you call it, Henry.

[Joe Getty]

I hope the tide has turned the way Victor Davis Hansen sees it and that Iran really is on the ropes. I mean, hoping for a change with the midterm elections. That's November, eight months from now, seven months from now. That's a long time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there's. They're 100 on the ropes. That the question is because the knockout blow is super crazy hard to deliver. I mean, to. Unless you invade. Invade. And even then, it's harder than hell. What does the. The rump regime look like? What does it do? What power can IT project. And in what ways?

[Joe Getty]

Hate to always go World War II, but I mean, how incredibly defeated was Germany and he still had to go all the way to freaking Berlin to end it, right? I mean, they were done for a long time before that.

[Jack Armstrong]

The H man himself in his bunker. They were a couple of blocks away when he was still moving around imaginary tanks before he, you know, gobbled the barrel of that gun and people still

[Joe Getty]

listening to him and, you know, kind of doing what he's at.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So I don't know how this ends. We will finish strong with something lighter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Jack Armstrong]

America won. America still has freedom of speech. It's still for the people, by the people. That legendary rapper Afroman he of the because I got high hit of a number of years ago we talked a great deal during the Armstrong and Getty One More Thing podcast yesterday that would be the 19th, I guess March 19 about his civil suit case and the more I learn about it the more interesting it becomes. He had been getting harassed and targeted by this small town Ohio cop shop for a while and had a terrible relationship and God, he's just brutal on the police chief who's a woman in one of the videos. But they raided his house on like alleged kidnapping and drug trafficking charges and there wasn't evidence to either one of them and no charges were ever brought. He used a lot of his home security video and video his wife took with her cell phone of the bust in a bunch of music videos mocking the cops. Okay. And we're pro law enforcement around here but sounds like they are way out of line and and they sued him for like defamation and emotional harm and the rest of it and and he said bring it on and exposed. I mean for instance one of the cops claims that that's really one of the reasons that his marriage broke up was the mockery he'd received. And and the Afroman's attorney called his ex wife to testify and she's like no had nothing to do with it. Right. And so Afroman and it's I think it's unerable but he put out a video which in England included video of this guy who would bust women for drugs and tell him he'd turn them loose if they could have sex. And he did this over and over again and videotaped a lot of it. Oh my God that's why his marriage broke up. Whoa. So Afro man went like, big on the. Ms. Sean Foreman or whatever his name is. I don't call him Afro Man. He went. He went big on this stuff and put out music videos.

[Joe Getty]

Put it all out. Good for him. That's a terrible cop right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it is absolutely terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And impugns all the good peace officers everywhere. Awful. But yeah, yeah. And you're telling me my favorite note or.

[Joe Getty]

Or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

You're telling us yesterday in the podcast, Katie, that Afroman was a big part of your youth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, that. That Because I Got High song. Everybody knows it. Oh, yeah, all the words.

[Joe Getty]

Afroman. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Commenting. It's been huge online following this trial and then the response and watching the videos and stuff like that. Somebody commented that I'd like to teach a law school class about this case, and it does include all sorts of interesting aspects of law enforcement and warrants and defamation and expectations of privacy and free speech. All sorts of stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Scumbag cop was not only, I mean, yeah, arresting chicks and then having sex with them.

[Guest or Caller]

That.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, that is beyond awful. But then he makes a claim that his marriage ended because Afroman's videos.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Yes. Wow. Now that was a different guy than the pound cake guy who, as we described yesterday, again, the Armstrong and getting one more thing Podcast. Podcast. Subscribe to the Ang on Demand and it comes automatically. He stops with a gun out. He's in the house serving this morning. Stops and does the most hilarious double take you've ever seen because there's a big old pound cake on the counter. Oh, wait a minute now. And so Afroman wrote a song called Pound Cake about him, and he was sent hundreds of pound cakes at his place of work. Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day and the week. There he is, Michelangelo, pressing the buttons in the control room. Michael, what's your final thought? Yeah, I'm sad about Chuck Norris passing away. Texas Walker Ranger was kind of a guilty pleasure. My dad and I used to watch. I used to like to watch him kick butt. Pretty sure some of those words were out of order, but he was a fine fella. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, I am just praying that I don't find one of those flying venomous spiders anywhere near my house, because I'm

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

I know some of y' all hate on LeBron James and some of you say he's the greatest ever. Whatever. 41 year old LeBron James last night tied the record. He'll break it this weekend for the most NBA games ever. Ever played. And he had a triple double as a 41 year old. Went 1950 and 15 and 10. Everybody else on that list of most games ever played their last seasons, they're riding the bench and barely on a team. He's starting on a playoff team and getting a triple double as he ties the record for most games ever played.

[Jack Armstrong]

My final thought is one final shot at the first lady Marxist partner of California, Jennifer Siebel Marxist Tim Correspondent Tim points out she allegedly has an MBA from Stanford.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I sense a large check was written there. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's so many people to thank, so little time. Go to armstrong yeti.com for the hot links. A lot of good stuff to click on there. Grab some ang swag for your favorite ang fan.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe it's you, man. When you hear here so and so has a degree from a prestigious university. All our minds go to the same place now they ruined that whole thing themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

See you Monday.

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God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. There's a freaking war going on. They are ruthless. Well, you're being a wise guy with me a little bit. I think that you may be over egging the pudding.

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I haven't said a word, so stop yelling at me. We must together.

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Animus. Have a great Friday, you mother. Armstrong and Getty, this is Martha Stewart

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