Elbow To The Chops!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Elbow To The Chops!
Date: February 23, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In “Elbow To The Chops!”, Armstrong & Getty dissect contemporary crises in Western civilization, explore the erosion of traditional values, and sound off on the criminal justice system’s perceived failings. Sprinkled with biting humor and cultural commentary, the episode also covers breaking news from Mexico’s escalating cartel war, notable U.S. political moments, and the exhilarating U.S. Olympic hockey victory. The tone is candid, irreverent, and frequently satirical as Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty trade sharp, unfiltered takes on the news.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Crisis of Western Values & Education

[02:13 - 03:44]

• Bill Maher’s Critique: The episode opens with Bill Maher's defense of Western civilization amidst widespread criticism, targeting younger generations and the political left.
  • “The west has also given us everything that makes your life good here… rule of law, respect for minorities, democracy, scientific inquiry. These are all good things that came from the Western world. I wish schools would teach that again.” (Bill Maher, 02:51)
• Armstrong & Getty’s Response: The hosts share concerns about the decline of Western values in schools, with Armstrong worried about a lack of defenders on the political left.
  • “I don't know how many people are left on the left side of politics who... are willing to say that. That's Bill Maher from his HBO show on Friday. But that's really troubling. This is not a minor thing.” (Jack Armstrong, 03:04)
• Systemic Change: Joe Getty brands the infiltration of radical ideas into education as insidious yet strategic.
  • “The radicals gave up on the factories, the Marxists, and concentrated on the schools. Brilliant. Insidious and brilliant. No, these people utterly reject our values.” (Joe Getty, 03:26)

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2. Modern Racial and Cultural Narratives

[03:44 - 06:07]

• AOC’s Comments: The hosts lampoon Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s statements on whiteness and culture from the Munich conference, finding them divisive and incoherent.
  • “She said people act like whiteness isn't a thing... but whiteness is. None of it made any sense. But it was some sort of weird white people or evil.” (Jack Armstrong, 04:04)
• Satire of Stereotypes:
  • “Black people have music and dancing, and Hispanic people have food and family. White people have hatred. That's white culture.” (Joe Getty, 04:24)

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3. Failures of the Criminal Justice System

[06:07 - 13:54]

• Case in Louisville, Kentucky:
  • Judge Tracy Davis drastically reduces the sentence of Christopher Thompson, convicted of horrific violent crimes, despite his obscene and unremorseful outbursts in the courtroom.
  • “He said fu and threatened to rape her and everybody else in the courtroom. And for that she cut a sentence in half. Man, these people are crazy. I mean, they're actually nuts.” (Joe Getty, 10:55)
• Systemic Weaknesses & Identity Politics:
  • Armstrong argues that reflexive leniency based on the defendant's background disregards justice.
    • “You can't believe that somebody of a... minority race could also be just an evil loser who would be better off locked up forever. You just can't imagine it.” (Jack Armstrong, 11:13)
  • Getty notes: “Anybody capable of that is irredeemable. Put him in prison for decades... You don't cut a sentence in half because of some vague guilt that a black fella is going to go to prison for a long time.” (Joe Getty, 12:23)
• Historical Parallels: The hosts mention parallels with Soviet and Marxist criminal theory, critiquing an ideology that blames systems rather than individuals.
  • “It's exactly Lenin's thinking... the only reason we have crime is because of the oppression in the system and everything.” (Jack Armstrong, 11:38)

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4. Mexico’s Cartel War and American Safety

[14:35 - 27:36]

• Major Developments: News breaks of violent cartel reprisals after the Mexican military kills cartel leader El Mencho.
  • “Explosions erupting across Puerto Vallarta. Black smoke seen rising over the resort city... Mexican officials say during their operation, military personnel were attacked, several cartel members were killed, including El Mencho.” (Jack Armstrong, 24:35)
  • State Department advice: “If you're an American in Mexico, just stay in your hotel until things cool down a little bit.” (Jack Armstrong, 25:08)
• Impact & Broader Warnings:
  • Getty and Armstrong paint a dire picture of Mexican lawlessness, predicting further escalation.
    • “You do not have a society if you anger us. The message I believe Mexico's top defense official just gave...” (Joe Getty, 25:41)
    • “If I'm wearing any sort of government uniform in Mexico today, I'm on my toes, man.” (Joe Getty, 26:14)
  • Armstrong shares chilling details about El Mencho’s brutality:
    • “He would cut the heads off government officials and police officers and display them on the steps of the elementary schools their kids attended.” (Jack Armstrong, 44:12)

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5. State of the Union Anticipation & Domestic Politics

[17:57 - 21:33]

• Congressional Dysfunction: Discussion about the Supreme Court curtailing presidential emergency powers; uncertainty over whether Congress will step up.
  • “Presidents cannot do the job of Congress by themselves.” (Tara Davis Woodhull, 17:30)
• State of the Union Dynamics:
  • Previews disrespect and protest expected at Trump’s State of the Union, with hosts critiquing performative outrage.
  • “Oh, the amount of money you'll raise. I'm sure various people know the exact amount. No, I can guarantee I'll get $5 million within five hours if I'm the one that interrupts his speech.” (Jack Armstrong, 19:08)

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6. Political Optics, Approval Ratings, and Epstein Fallout

[19:16 - 21:44]

• Trump Approval Woes:
  • “His numbers equaled his low point first term after January 6th. Could his numbers be as low as they were January 6th, including among independents?” (Jack Armstrong, 19:54)
  • Both hosts lament Trump’s tendency to say damaging things even as policies are praised by some.
• Epstein Files Arrest:
  • Brief coverage of a former British ambassador arrested for leaking state secrets to Jeffrey Epstein—not related to Epstein’s sex crimes, but illustrating how deep the saga goes.
  • “Just that whole network of favors and mutual obligation... everybody could get rich.” (Joe Getty, 21:33)

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7. Candidate Gaffes and Public Persona Skewering

[28:49 - 34:59]

• Gavin Newsom: Armstrong & Getty ridicule Newsom’s attempt to seem relatable by touting a mediocre SAT score to a Black audience.
  • “Is that Gavin Newsom speaking to a black audience and saying, in effect, I'm just as dumb as you are?” (Jack Armstrong, 29:26)
  • “It's the only job... where being average is one of the keys to getting the job.” (Jack Armstrong, 29:48)
  • Extended banter pokes fun at politicians’ appeals to mediocrity.
• AOC’s Foreign Policy Fumble:
  • Deconstruction of Ocasio-Cortez's much-mocked, awkward answer on Taiwan at a foreign policy forum, followed by her emotional video defense.
  • “I think she was bawling her eyes out... she cries and cries and cries on the couch... then says that nonsense about if you think me pausing is a problem. The problem’s with you.” (Jack Armstrong, 32:28)
  • “You're a lightweight. Pretty face who's good at impressing 23 year old SOC graduates and raising money. You've done nothing to dispel that.” (Joe Getty, 34:19)
  • The hosts lampoon the emotional video as counterproductive and extend the bit into absurdist humor.

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8. U.S. Olympic Hockey Triumph & Patriotism

[39:00 - 43:09]

• The Gold Medal Moment:
  • Emotional reactions to Team USA’s hockey win; celebration of patriotism, resilience, and athletic excellence.
  • “I love the USA. I love my teammates. It's unbelievable... I'm so proud to be American today.” (Jack Armstrong quoting a Team USA player, 39:11)
  • Armstrong describes kids celebrating at peewee hockey games across the country.
• Hockey as Metaphor:
  • “What you saw today was the build of a generation, inspired perhaps by that team that lost in 2010... that's when these guys were doing what you're doing, watching on tv. And they were young and they were living the dream.” (Mike Tirico, 40:14)
• Irreverent God/Bible Joke:
  • “That was God favoring the United States over Canada.” (Jack Armstrong, 42:05)

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9. Final Thoughts & Sign-Off

[43:33 - 45:17]

• Bobsled Dreams & Missed Birthday Cake:
  • Lighthearted final thoughts from the crew about sports and birthdays.
• Civilization, Violence, and National Pride:
  • Getty: “Those snaggle toothed, scarred faced young bucks playing hockey love their country... you gotta take care of [those undermining it], if you know what I'm talking about. Elbow to the chops.” (Joe Getty, 44:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The radicals... concentrated on the schools. Brilliant. Insidious and brilliant.” (Joe Getty, 03:26)
• “I don't know how many people are left on the left side of politics who... are willing to say that.” (Jack Armstrong, 03:04)
• “Anybody capable of that is irredeemable. Put him in prison for decades...” (Joe Getty, 12:23)
• “Just the system caused you business. It's exactly Lenin's thinking.” (Jack Armstrong, 11:38)
• “Explosions erupting across Puerto Vallarta… Mexican officials say… El Mencho, head of the new generation Jalisco cartel [was killed].” (Jack Armstrong, 24:35)
• “If every hockey game had that level of intensity and speed and action and all, oh, it'd be as big as it used to be.” (Joe Getty, 42:29)

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Key Timestamps

• 02:13 – Maher and hosts on Western civilization & teaching history
• 06:07 – Louisville judge sentencing controversy
• 14:35 – Mexico cartel crisis, State Department warning
• 17:57 – State of the Union preview & Congress/Executive tension
• 19:54 – Trump’s poll numbers and effect of rhetoric
• 21:33 – Arrests in the Epstein files fallout
• 28:49 – Gavin Newsom’s SAT admission before Black voters
• 31:00 – AOC’s Taiwan gaffe and emotional response
• 39:00 – U.S. hockey gold medal win celebration
• 43:33 – Final thoughts and show close

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Overall Tone

Armstrong & Getty blend dark satire with serious social critique, lambasting what they see as cultural, educational, and political decline. The episode combines news analysis, comedic riffing, and moments of genuine patriotic inspiration.

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End of Summary

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[Bill Maher]

Now I want to first of all say something about Western civilization. Kids, they think Western means white and white means bad kids. First of all, everything bad that white people did. People of color did it too. The Japanese before World War II and during World War II and Genghis Khan and I could go on and on. The left is very down on America, very down on the West. And it's ironic because the west has also given us everything that makes your life good here. Don't ask Billie Eilish or Chapel Roan about What the Western values are. Cause they'll just say it's about oppression.

[Joe Getty]

But it's not about oppression.

[Bill Maher]

It's about rule of law. It's about respect for minorities, about democracy. It's about scientific inquiry. These are all good things that came from the Western world. I wish the schools would teach that again.

[Jack Armstrong]

My God, he's an old man. And I don't know how many people are left on the left side of politics who are willing. Who understand that and are willing to say that. That's Bill Maher from his HBO show on Friday. But that's really troubling. This is not a minor thing.

[Joe Getty]

I say it's the biggest problem facing America.

[Jack Armstrong]

It certainly could be. Or all of Western civilization.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's wild. The radicals gave up on the factories, the Marxists, and concentrated on the schools. Brilliant. Insidious and brilliant. No, these people utterly reject our values. We must teach their children our values.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's right too. Aoc. This hasn't gotten near as much of attention. I just saw it last night as her Taiwan answer. But when she is at that Munich conference last week, she did this thing about. About whiteness. She said people act like whiteness isn't a thing. I mean, we have.

[Joe Getty]

There are.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are black people and they have their own culture, and there are Hispanics who have their own culture, but whiteness is. None of it made any sense. But it was some sort of weird white people or evil.

[Joe Getty]

To the extent that there is white culture, it's entirely evil.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yeah, it was really strange.

[Bill Maher]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Black people have music and dancing, and Hispanic people have food and family. White people have hatred. That's white culture.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. There weren't black African tribes abducting people, holding them as slaves and then selling them for profit, or all the things that, you know, the Spaniards did or whatever. None of that ever gives white. I don't even know what to say about that.

[Joe Getty]

And quite literally claiming the offspring of. Well, the ancestors. Not ancestors. What's the opposite of ancestors? Progeny. The many generations after of the conquistadors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Descendants.

[Joe Getty]

Descendants. That's the word I was looking for. The descendants of conquistadors are actually the victims of colonial oppression. What? Well, it's incoherent, but it's just. You're repeating the pledges of your sect, your cult. Honestly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, she mocked. She. I don't know if you're following this, but she mocked Marco Rubio's speech, which got hailed by all quarters as being quite amazing. She marked Marcos Rubio's speech because he Mentioned that the Spanish brought horses to the Americas, which they did. Yeah. And she mocked. That is like so stupid. She said, I think African Americans like a word about that. And so would Hispanics. Well, yeah, Hispanics have horses because the Spaniards brought them over anyway, but. So I saw one pundit say her last name is literally Cortez.

[Joe Getty]

This is going to take a minute, so we need to launch into it. This is Louisville, Kentucky Judge Tracy Davis sentencing a 24 year old man and trying desperately to let him off before we even get appearances. Mr. Thompson, I'm going to need you to be respectful. This is less than 30 seconds into Christopher Thompson's final sentencing. I ain't doing nothing with my D. He responded. This is unbelievable obscenity. Wow. I'll keep it clean. Well, it's fine. Okay. She said what? He asked. It's fine. That's how the hearing began. He was convicted in December of robbery, kidnapping, sodomy, sexual abuse for an attack on a woman he did not know. The details are almost too chilling to repeat. He wore a ski mask, abducted the woman her own car, drove her to a school parking lot, forced sex acts at gunpoint, drove her to an atm, robbed her, drove back to school. Sexual. More sexual assault, rape at gunpoint. As the assistant district attorney said, this was every woman's worst nightmare. And she asked the judge to uphold the jury's recommendation. I'm sorry, were you gonna say something? That Thompson received 65 years for the crimes. Reading into the record the Kentucky statutes that dictate when a judge should consider a reduction in jury recommend. So a jury of his peers had recommended that the major factor is the defendant's behavior. The defendant's behavior. In Thompson's case, that behavior, exactly what the prosecutor wanted Judge Davis to keep in mind. It was conduct that had already been read into the record by Judge Davis herself. Off the record, the dependent, the defendant was speaking to the prosecutor lady and stated, quote, I will see you in 20 years. Judge Davis read aloud on the record in front of the entire court, he stated, dsf y' all kids and F y' all's dead loved ones. In addition to that, speaking directly to the court, he said, eat my. I'm going to blank your blank and s blank you blank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an example. This is an example. And I realize why this can't happen. But this is an example where I think just a little bit of vigilante justice would be okay. Just because in the old days, that guy gets the mother blanking crap beat out of him by some Cops in the hallway and when they put him in, it's what happened to that guy? I don't know. He must have stripped and fell.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it gets worse.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that sort of thing happens. You don't get away with saying this stuff.

[Joe Getty]

So the judge emphasized how long 65 years is and Mr. Thompson is not mentally matured yet and had never really had a real shot at getting help. She read aloud his record, which included juvenile crimes, theft, robbery, truancy, failure to pay restitution, felony gun possession, fleeing and evading police, probation violation, blah blah, it take too long, blah, blah, blah. Judge Davis went on to explain her thoughts for the record, while Thompson repeatedly stated he did not care. Below is the exchange that preceded the judge's decision to forego the jury's recommended sentence in favor of a sentence of less than half of that. Thompson. I don't have sympathy for nobody. Judge Davis. Well, if you come in here and show the court I don't have sympathy for you, the victim, the victim's family, we don't need your sympathy. I don't care. That's fine. Boo hoo. Judge says if you were to come in here and instead of being hurt and angry, which is what this court hears. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

As a 20 year old African American male that has been, you know, experienced this society, etc. And you would show that? Yes. Okay. This is the situation. This is who I am. I don't want to be this person anymore. I don't want to be in jail forever. That's what y' all trying to make me as. I didn't say that. Yes, you did. I didn't find you guilty. I'm not trying to argue. Well then don't just sit back. You don't even have to actively listen. You just sit back and be quiet and let me make a record and talk to the right noise. You don't want to hear anything. You're going to. So with that being said, it is just a shame that you can't look at all of this, all these things and say, as of today, you can't tell me how to look at anything. Just say February 22nd or 2nd of 26, I want to be a different person. I want a better outcome. I want to be an asset to society, blah, blah, blah. And on it goes. So in spite of his refusing defiantly and angrily to even hint at regret,

[Jack Armstrong]

well, he didn't need to actually regret anything. He just needed to say the words out loud for the judge to.

[Joe Getty]

I'm trying to make a record Here? Yes. Yeah, but no. He said fu and threatened to rape her and everybody else in the courtroom. And for that she cut a sentence in half. Man, these people are crazy. I mean, they're actually nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

You can't believe that somebody of a. A minority race could also be just an evil loser who would be better off with locked up forever. You just can't imagine it. Nobody who's of whichever downtrodden group you want to pick could ever just be a bad person for all the reasons other white people are bad people.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just the system caused you business. It's exactly Lenin's thinking. VI Lenin to start the Soviet Union. That just the only reason we have crime is because of the oppression in the system and everything. But we're going to have to kill a lot of people to get this all straightened out. But once we get it all straightened out, everything will be fine.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And some people, including this judge, can't even deal with the notion that maybe, maybe I concede everything she said, that this guy never had a chance. He's not mentally developed. He had a bad upbringing, whatever. He grew up in a bad place. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anybody capable of that is irredeemable. Put him in prison for decades. Bring it up at the parole hearing. If he finds God, he matures, you know, whatever. We'll talk about it, but not at the outset.

[Bill Maher]

No.

[Joe Getty]

You don't cut a sentence in half because of some vague guilt that a black fella is going to go to prison for a long time. God, that judge ought to be heaved out on her ass.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding. You should not be a judge. That is so horrifying. Screaming all kinds of horrible things at the judge. And the judge continues to say, all I'm seeing is someone who is hurt. I'm just seeing someone who's acting out because they're hurt. You're a nut job.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I don't even have it in me to. I had a companion story with this about North Carolina, that Roy Cooper, when he was governor there. He's running for Senate now. So this is getting attention. But in the wake of the George Floyd crap, North Carolina under the Democrats was one of those states that just went crazy releasing people from prison. Just anybody, anybody who is more darker skin than me was released from prison, including this guy who committed a crime so unspeakable against an elderly North Carolina woman. I can't even. I won't even describe it to you. Convicted in 1995, sentenced to life in prison. A monster, a sub human monster. But In March of 21, he walked out of North Carolina prison a free man to the horror of the victim's family. After Roy Cooper and his administration agreed to fast track the release of 3,500 inmates as part of a legal settlement with the NAACP, it was the what do we decide? The the whole Covid George Floyd period ought to be called the woke Apocalypse

[Jack Armstrong]

or whatever that is.

[Joe Getty]

The Woke Apocalypse. Yeah. The the time of insanity. Great Scott. You know, and we were discussing this earlier. I can't even remember the context, but oh, it was the Mexican drug cartels that are now engaged in open warfare with the government. If you give away law and order, civilization, the rule of law, you will have to fight a war to get it back.

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Yikes. Yeah, maybe we'll check in on what's going on in Mexico because it's insane. I hope you're not there on vacation right now because you ain't leaving anytime soon. Among other things on the way.

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This is the most consequential case on presidential power that we've probably had in decades, but it also is in line with what they've said before. Presidents trying to use vague emergency powers delegated by Congress simply are going to lose at the court. Biden student loan, debt forgiveness. Trump trying to send the National Guard to Chicago and now tariffs the court saying Congress needs to get in the game. Presidents cannot do the job of Congress by themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will Congress get in the game though? That's an open and open question. Trump will be standing before Congress tomorrow night for the State of the Union address. Big question out there. How disrespectful the Democrats are going to be or how many of them are even going to show up. I just saw Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania say Democrats need to show respect for the office and keep their traps shut during the speech, which I like.

[Joe Getty]

I wish him well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Not sure that's going to happen.

[Joe Getty]

Although the first person to shout raises the most money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there's a bunch of counter events going on. Couple different ones on the steps.

[Joe Getty]

And is Kid Rock singing at any of Jean shorts?

[Jack Armstrong]

Joy Reed's doing something.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, good.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's some counter events you can go to, but you won't get near the attention. Obviously not a tiny percentage of the attention you get by showing up and yelling at the President during the speech. I mean, if you interrupt his speech to the point that it's the news story, like has happened several times. Oh, the amount of money you'll raise. I'm sure various people know the exact amount. No, I can guarantee I'll get $5 million within five hours if I'm the one that interrupts his speech. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Say something about ice. How much money would they raise?

[Jack Armstrong]

I wasn't planning on bringing this up, but there is.

[Joe Getty]

Who?

[Jack Armstrong]

Was it CBS or abc? One of your big news organizations had a poll come out yesterday and it's worse than recent Trump polls have been, so it could be an outlier. We'll have to wait to see if more polls come out to see if it's a trend line. Wouldn't shock me, really, but it's pretty low. His numbers equaled his low point first term after January 6th. Could his numbers be as low as they were January 6th, including among independents? He was actually lower among independents in this poll, one of your respected polls, than he was after January 6th.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, he's lost a lot of people with the immigration thing. People have hated the tariffs. Well, the beating up of Canada.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, like, the beating up of Canada. So I was talking to a. I mean, this is anecdotal, but I was talking to a person yesterday who is a Trump supporter. But just like, why does he gotta do this? Why does he gotta say that? And I mean, like, Friday, man, you can't be the president. You can't come out and say the Supreme Court justices are a disgrace to America, traitors to their country, their families should be ashamed. You just can't do that.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's horrible. Honestly, to the extent that anybody takes it seriously, it's horrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

But. And the person I was talking to, they use the example of. And when Rob Reiner dies, just leave it alone. You know, you don't need to go attacking people who are murdered in their own homes because they said something negative about you three years ago on Twitter. You just don't have to keep your

[Mike Tirico]

eye on the ball.

[Jack Armstrong]

The big things are so good. We like the big things.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I wonder if that factors into the approval ratings. I have no idea. Different topics. Almost got to kind of breaking news that Mandelson. Mandelbaum. Mandelbaum guy from Great Britain and he just got arrested. Actually arrested. Former British Ambassador to the United States arrested because they always say because of tied to the Epstein files. Well, yeah, he's tied to the Epstein, but not the sex stuff. He was. He was giving state secrets apparently information to Epstein that he's not supposed to do. That's why he's being arrested.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, just that whole network of favors and mutual obligation. What favors did he have? Not a sex island. He had insider information so everybody could get rich.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, but man, there have been some number of people drop and this information was not going to come out unless there was this political pressure to release the Epstein files using my finger quotes. It's going to bring down the British government. Likely. Anyway, we got more on the way. Hope you can stay here. If you missed a segment, get our

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10 minute oil change explosions erupting across Puerto Vallarta. Black smoke seen rising over the resort city on Mexico's Pacific coast. Mexico's military forces launching a daring operation to capture cartel leader Ruben N. Known as El Mencho.

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Mexican officials say during their operation, military

[Jack Armstrong]

personnel were attacked, several cartel members were killed, including El Mencho, the head of the new generation Jalisco cartel. The violence forcing the Puerto Vallarta airport to suspend all flights. This stranding many US Citizens trying to get home. Yeah, the State Department is saying shelter in place. If you're an American in Mexico, just stay in your hotel until things cool down a little bit. Two thirds of the country are experiencing explosions in grocery stores, cars being set on fire, gunfights in the street. The cartels have declared war on the Mexican government and Mexican groceries apparently. Well and just, well, they're trying to sow chaos and fear which they have been doing for many, many years.

[Joe Getty]

You do not have a society if you anger us. The message I believe Mexico's top defense

[Jack Armstrong]

official just gave a speech sobbing as he announced 25 National Guard members killed. Oh, since the taking of El Mencho. Talking about the cowardly attacks on 27 cowardly attacks against authorities. Man, you talk about brave patriots. Your kid goes off to join the Mexican National Guard and take on the cartels.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy. And if I'm wearing any sort of government uniform in Mexico today, I'm on my toes, man. From garbage collectors to soldiers to cops to I don't know what, building inspectors.

[Jack Armstrong]

So El Mencho was the most wanted man in all of Mexico. He was the, the number one cartel drug kingpin. Little information we just got from our old friend Dave. One of our many bosses over the

[Joe Getty]

years, known as El Davo.

[Jack Armstrong]

El Davo, this dude. Born in 1966 in Mexico to poor farmers. He moved to California as a teenager. El Mencho. There he twice faced charges of drug trafficking as a young adult. Returned to Mexico after his second arrest, worked briefly as a police officer and ended up working his way up through the cartels. He'd actually entered the US illegally, was deported twice. Known heroin dealer in the United States. Like a number of people that come to this country illegally, he was not just a hard working, law abiding, wanting a better life for him and his family sort of person.

[Joe Getty]

No, he's a criminal who saw a great market for his wares. Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's quite the situation in Mexico. Holy crap.

[Joe Getty]

Where does it go from here?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know that I watched a little bit of that. The head of the military there in Mexico talking about all his soldiers being killed. This could be the beginning of a very serious couple of days or weeks or months in Mexico.

[Joe Getty]

I could easily see. I mean, there are a hundred different examples. It could be the wrong soldier gets killed. He happens to be the son of the minister of Whatchitz, what's whatever. Or, you know, they assassinate the governor of a state or something like that. I mean, it could escalate in a hell of a hurry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, we'll be keeping our eye on this one. Maybe even come up with a reporter because the California Post, we like the new California Post. The New York Post has a sister publication now in California, the California Post. Maybe we'll talk to one of their correspondents because they're all over that story. Two things we need to check in on here. We're following the attempt to be the nominee for the Democratic Party with two candidates we uncheck in real quick. Here's Gavin Newsom speaking in front of a primarily black audience over the weekend and saying this for some reason.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960sat guy. And you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. You know, trying to act all there. If you got 960, 40, but literally a 960 SAT guy. I cannot. You. You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech. This may be the wrong business to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the question is, is that Gavin Newsom speaking to a black audience and saying, in effect, I'm just as dumb as you are. I'm no more than that. I'm just as dumb as black people? Is that what Gavin is saying?

[Joe Getty]

Had a bit of a feel of that, yeah. And what's the deal with pitching yourself as a candidate for, like, the highest offices? I'm a half wit.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm a. We've. We've talked about this many, many, many cycles. For whatever reason, it's the only job on planet Earth where being having, like, struggled and being average is one of the keys to getting the job and any other job you want to be. Yeah, I was first class at Harvard. I had a perfect score on this, and blah, blah, blah, I turned it, blah, blah. But now running for president's guy, oh, I worked my way up eating rocks and barely get to school. And, like, I could. I couldn't read.

[Joe Getty]

Takes me three tries to put on my pants in the morning. I don't know much about lush, I'll tell you that. I'm just. I'm just stupid. Well, you have my vote, because you're just like me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Takes me three tries to put on my pants.

[Joe Getty]

I got all D's.

[Jack Armstrong]

C students.

[Joe Getty]

Hell, I looked up at the C students wishing I could be like that. I'm a D student at best.

[Jack Armstrong]

I try to put on my pants, and I realize I got them on backwards. So I turn them around, but I turn them a full turn so they're all backwards again that second time.

[Joe Getty]

Then I try to pull the legs on over my shoes and not the wide part. And then I thank God I'm so damn stupid, I should be president.

[Jack Armstrong]

Realize the key to this is a half turn, not a full turn. So I turned my pants a half turn, and then I get them on correctly on that third try in the Oval Office. So we got that. And the other candidate that's at the top of all your lists, aoc, she had her disastrous performance in Munich, where she was asked about Taiwan and China, and she went,

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[Jack Armstrong]

And then she got killed by lots of punditry. Right, left, and center on that for several days and on the talk shows over the weekend. So she put out this tweet yesterday. Key question for Katie, Having just watched it after you hear it here, this is what it sounded like.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry, Michael, you're gonna get distracted. She's she's sitting there on her couch. She got her dog next door and the dog is snoring. So that's what that sound is.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So a lot of people were saying she looks like she's been crying based on having a number of women cry in my presence for a variety of reasons. She. She looked like it to me, but we. We left it to an expert. Another woman, Katie. You watched the video. Does she look like she's been crying? Totally has been crying, without a doubt. And her voice sounds like it too. So she's so. I think she was bawling her eyes out. She watched the Sunday morning shows, realized everybody, including people on her side, are saying, whoa. She may have taken herself out of the running with that one. And she's cries and cries and cries on the couch. I picture her laying on her stomach on the couch, kicking her feet and crying with her dog, trying to snooze. And then she finally decides, I need to do something here, I need to spin this. And then she jumps on the phone, her eyes still red, no makeup, her horse voice from crying, and then says that nonsense about if you think me pausing is a problem. The problems with you. All right, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, she, she, she does sound

[Jack Armstrong]

a little bit sick, but from looking

[Joe Getty]

at her, her eyes are glassy and she's puffy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not sick puffy, but she's crying puffy, right? And oh my God, wow.

[Joe Getty]

The dog's been listening, rant and rain for hours. He's like, God dang it, I gotta go to sleep. And he finally falls asleep and she s. Post half drunk, I'm guessing, having been weeping at the mockery she's received in the middle of the night. Good decision.

[Jack Armstrong]

That did not help.

[Joe Getty]

Got one glass of chardonnay left in a fresh bottle.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's one of those deals where all you did was extend the story by another cycle or two.

[Joe Getty]

Well and precisely. And reinforce the narrative.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

You're a lightweight. You're a lightweight. Pretty face who's good at impressing 23 year old SOC graduates and raising money. You've done nothing to dispel that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I heard one pundit say and this is not a right wing pundit. Say she ran on or the big story about her when she got elected was everybody underestimate. Underestimates me. I'm just the bartender. Blah, blah, blah. Run against the entrenched power, blah, blah, blah. And that ever since the whole underestimated her thing, everybody has overestimated her.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is I think sounds about right.

[Joe Getty]

Only if the dog had broken wind could that video have been more perfect. Just really, really let one go.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if it like attacked her and she has to fight it off and so hold on. Just.

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I'll be with you in a second.

[Jack Armstrong]

She fight the dog.

[Joe Getty]

Ow.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh God, that is too good. You can't in that hoarse voice with your obviously just cry guys. Well, if you think me pausing his problem. The problem's with you, okay?

[Joe Getty]

You just gotten used to Trump who never stops to think. I was just thinking you.

[Jack Armstrong]

And by the way, I have many new boyfriends and they're all hotter than you anyway. So.

[Joe Getty]

So I don't care. I never loved you. And I've lost five pounds. And look at me now in my bikini. The dogs like it. Oh my God. I can't take another minute of this. I'm out.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, we will finish strong.

[Joe Getty]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Jack the first gold medal for the

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

United States in 46 years and you delivered it. Can you just describe the emotions of this moment right now?

[Jack Armstrong]

This is all about our country right now.

[Mike Tirico]

I love the usa. I love my teammates. It's unbelievable. The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong and we have so much support from ex players. I'm so proud to be American today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have you seen the video of the peewee hockey match that was going on during this and they announced that the US had won the gold medal and all the kids just go crazy with excitement. It's very, very cool. Very, very cool.

[Joe Getty]

Love that, love that, love that, love that. Yeah. Jack Hughes and his brother Quinn, members of Team USA Jewish American, both bar Mitzvahed and his Sequoia Capital partner Sean McGuire putting in a post on X quote for last year. There's been a whole lot of just asking questions about Jewish Americans loyalty Jack Hughes is the perfect metaphor. Takes a stick to the face to win Team USA gold against Canada. Then spouting pure patriotism. Good for him. Good for him. Mike Tirico with the wrap up on NBC. This is pretty good. Let's listen to Mike.

[Mike Tirico]

But what you saw today was the build of a generation, inspired perhaps by that team that lost in 2010 in Vancouver to the Sidney Crosby golden goal in overtime, or the team where TJ Osha had all those shootout goals in 2014. That's when these guys were doing what you're doing watching on tv. And they were young and they were living the dream. So for all the young people out there, not just the hockey, but all the Olympics you've watched, those dreams are formed. Now go chase them and go get them. Because our country loves sports and it brings us together unlike anything else. And if you didn't know that, if you haven't been watching the last two weeks, you saw it in Team USA Hockey. Hockey winning the gold. Over there are tribal Canada here in Milan to wrap up these 25th Olympic Winter Games.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never seen people on the losing side as despondent as those Canadian hockey players were in any sport I've ever watched. You know, people are always down or whatever, but they just looked like everything had been taken from them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Goliath beat down David and the David fans were really bummed because they. The whole narrative was in their heads. Trump and the belligerence and the big US and all. Well, this is our game and we're going to show them who we are as Canadians. And it didn't work out. Yeah, they played great. To the Canuckers. They failed to do one thing. Put the little disc in the goal. Oh, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

That one goal we keep talking about. You got to save if you have any interest in hockey at all. The save. Yeah. How the goalie stopped that one. They've got all kinds of slow motion angles on it.

[Joe Getty]

It's just. What if it were in the matrix? You'd roll your eyes and say, oh, come on. Miraculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was God favoring the United States over Canada.

[Joe Getty]

God bless Canada. No, it's America. It's right there in the song, which I think is right out of the Bible. Bless America. That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish I'd watched it. I didn't watch. It was on 5:00am West Coast Time and I was not going to get up at 5am to watch hockey. I'm not a big hockey fan. I wish I'd have watched it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it was. It was here's the way I described it to my sweet wife. I said it was an all star game where all the best players played. They got to practice and play together for weeks and they cared as much as they've ever cared about anything. That was the level of hockey that was played. It was unbelievable. If every hockey game had that level of intensity and speed and action and all, oh, it'd be as big as it used to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's interesting that you can get professional players who have, you know, millions on the line if they were to get injured or something like that, lay it all out for their countries.

[Joe Getty]

100%. It was unbelievable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who knows how long I've listened. I started four hours ago. Now it's time for Final Thoughts with our co host, Jack and Joe. Love it. I didn't know there was a big finish. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, leading us off in the control room. Michael Angela Little Michael. Yeah. Last night was the closing ceremonies for the Olympics. And I'm going to miss the Olympics. It's fun. If there's one sport I could do, it'd be bobsled. I'd love to do the bobsled and jump in. Let gravity take over. Try not to die. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, we went all four hours without the biggest news. Jack, did you have a piece of cake for your birthday?

[Jack Armstrong]

Did not. Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know how I feel about this. I'm surprised. I meant to ask earlier. Katie, this is shocking. We'll have to follow up tomorrow. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very serious. Final thought. El Mencho, the drug cartel leader that they shot down in Mexico that has started what might turn into a civil war. He would cut the heads off government officials and police officers and display them on the steps of the elementary schools that their kids attended.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

To keep people in line. Line. That's the kind of guy he was.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, should have had you go last. My final thought is those snaggle toothed, scarred faced young bucks playing hockey love their country. They're proud of it. The Canadians too. And I love my country too. And I think you do too. And those of those people who've taken over our schools trying to teach the opposite. You gotta take care of them, if you know what I'm talking about. Elbow to the chops.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how you can enjoy your gold medal. With the level of income inequality we have in this country.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty revving up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

Stick to the bridge of the nose, that'll shut you up good. Armstronggetty.com Drop us a note [e-mail] See you tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

God Bless America. Armstrong and Getty Back across it comes. Jeff Hughes wins it.

[Mike Tirico]

The golden goal for the United States. I love the usa, I love my teammates, and I'm so proud to be American today.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, you've only played.

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Not bad.

[Mike Tirico]

So for all the young people out there, not just the hockey, but all the Olympics you've watched, those dreams are formed. Now go chase them and go get them.

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