Extraordinary Unleashing Of Bile

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Extraordinary Unleashing Of Bile
Date: February 2, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Main Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this spirited and wide-ranging episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dissect the week's biggest media controversies, celebrity scandals, the fallout from the Epstein files, and the nature of modern journalism. They also engage in sharp banter about clickbait culture, the fleeting fortunes of Olympic athletes, the dignity of protests, and a notably sycophantic Vogue profile of Gavin Newsom. True to form, the hosts deliver biting commentary, memorable one-liners, and thought-provoking analysis—backed by their trademark wit and skepticism.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. The Grammys, Trevor Noah, and Trump’s Outburst

[01:31 – 04:42]

• Armstrong and Getty open with a satirical take on the Grammys, Trevor Noah's hosting, and Billie Eilish’s win.

• Jack cracks: “Wow, that is a Grammy that every artist wants. Almost as much as Trump wants Greenland…” [01:31]

• They question Trevor Noah’s comedic credentials and marvel at his run as Grammys host, with Jack stating:

  "Trevor Noah has never said to my mind one funny thing. Not one. How did he host the Grammys six years in a row? I don't get it." [02:33 — Jack]

• Discussion pivots to Trump's fiery Truth Social reaction to Noah’s joke referencing Epstein’s island:

  "Noah, a total loser. Better get his facts straight and get them straight fast. Looks like I'll be sending my lawyers to sue this poor, pathetic, talentless dope of an mc." [03:32 — Jack, reading Trump’s post]

• Joe lampoons Trump's overreaction:

  "Well, he didn't like stop to throw a rock at the dog that barked. He's unloading an Uzi." [03:58 — Joe]

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2. The Epstein Files Media Frenzy

[04:42 – 15:19]

• Jack discusses the "extraordinary unleashing of bile" in response to late-breaking leaks from the Epstein files—3.2 million pages of documents, 2,000 videos, and 180,000 pictures.

• He pokes fun at people's literal reading of his quip about reading 1.2 million pages over the weekend. [04:42]

• The hosts break down mainstream media coverage, pointing out irresponsible reporting—names being splashed without substantiated accusations.

  "You don't want to live in a country where any investigation that anybody's name gets swept up, gets thrown out there into the media… That's outrageous." [08:56 — Jack]

• They clarify that most Trump mentions in the files are trivial—Epstein obsessively clipping news about Trump, not evidence of wrongdoing. [07:04-07:50]

• Joe exposes clickbait culture in media:

  "The New York Times dresses up its clickbait like in a tuxedo and top hat... but everybody's clickbait." [11:19 — Joe]

• The conversation turns to allegations against Robin Leach (of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous") found in the files—deemed utterly unsubstantiated yet reported by the press.

  "So you go ahead and run with a claim that Robin Leach strangled a girl to death… I think is insane." [13:18 — Jack] "You can't prove a negative. … The strongest word you can use is unsubstantiated." [13:36 — Joe]

• Discussion on the dangers of guilt by association and the irresponsibility of publicizing unverified claims:

  "We can't live in that world." [14:24 — Jack]

• Analysis of Tucker Carlson's descent into "clickbait and extreme madness," tying it to broader media trends:

  "He totally abandoned any pretense of honor or standards and just went full click bait and extreme madness. And it's all a version of that." [15:05 — Joe]

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3. The Nature of Protest: Now vs. Then

[17:45 – 20:14]

• Joe reads Peggy Noonan’s eloquent essay contrasting the dignified civil rights protests of the 1950s–60s with contemporary demonstrations:

  "Its power came from a dignity that was majestic and couldn't be denied... Current protesters should emulate that dignity and power, not fall into formless jeering and harassment..." [18:19 — Joe, quoting Noonan]

• The hosts lament the shift from moral seriousness to “a spirit of I’m so upset, I have a right to act out” [20:00 — Noonan via Joe]

• Jack points out a difference:

  "Also, you didn't have large elements in the civil rights movement who were Marxists who just wanted to tear down all of Western civilization." [20:06 — Jack]

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4. The Fleeting Fame & Fortunes of Olympic Athletes

[21:30 – 32:37]

• Jack marvels at how media stardom doesn't guarantee lifelong success for Olympians. He shares stories from a New York Post article listing Olympic stars who ended up broke, addicted, or in obscurity.

• Examples include swimmer Ryan Lochte (selling his gold medals) and wrestler Rulon Gardner (quickly bankrupt despite fleeting fame).

  "Becoming a household name for a week in some obscure sport doesn't make you rich for the rest of your life." [22:44 — Jack]

• Joe bemoans the lack of guidance for athletes on the brevity of their earning window, noting the NFL’s rookie seminars:

  "Unless you’re one of those transcendent, you know, winners. That would be good for those people to know. I feel bad for them." [27:18 — Joe]

• Both agree that the modern “worship of fame” distorts young athletes’ expectations:

  "Everybody wants to be famous and thinks they're going to be famous, and thinks fame alone is currency. When it's not." [28:52 — Joe]

• The discussion concludes philosophically—winning Olympic gold may only yield “an interesting trivia thing somebody throws out at dinner” years later. [32:04 — Jack]

  "There's no such thing as a happy ending. It's all just where you roll the credits..." [32:39 — Jack, quoting Drive-By Truckers]

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5. Law Enforcement, Doxxing, and Masked ICE Agents

[35:16 – 37:39]

• The hosts debate the complexities of ICE agents wearing masks for protection vs. the tradition of open law enforcement.

• LAPD declines to enforce California’s ban on masks for ICE agents, calling it a pointless misdemeanor pursuit.

  "You're not going to have the LAPD going and giving tickets to or arresting ICE agents over something that is, you know, a misdemeanor at best..." [35:54 — Jack]

• Joe highlights the hypocrisy of masked protesters vs. potential danger for law enforcement families:

  “Meanwhile, every Marxist smashing up a window in America is wearing their fake Covid mask… but so much virtue signaling.” [36:41 — Joe]

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6. Vogue’s Sycophantic Gavin Newsom Profile

[37:39 – 40:33]

• The hosts mercilessly mock Vogue’s over-the-top feature on Governor Gavin Newsom as he flirts with a presidential bid.

• Jack reads the opening with incredulity:

  "Let's get this out of the way. He is embarrassingly handsome. His hair seasoned with silver. At ease in his own eminence. Live, ardent, energetic. A glimmer of optimism in his eye… Kennedy-esque." [38:11 — Jack, quoting Vogue]

• Joe reacts:

  "I gotta take a knee. At ease in his own eminence.” [38:17 — Joe] "If I had Pelosi money in my pocket, I could be a self-made millionaire too.” [39:57 — Joe]

• The segment devolves into laughter as they satirize media fawning over politicians.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Trevor Noah has never said to my mind one funny thing. Not one.” — Jack Armstrong [02:33]
• “He didn't like stop to throw a rock at the dog that barked. He's unloading an Uzi.” — Joe Getty, on Trump’s social media blasts [03:58]
• "We can't live in that world." — Jack Armstrong, on unsubstantiated guilt by association in media [14:24]
• "The New York Times dresses up its clickbait like in a tuxedo and top hat, but that Trump appears 235 times in the Epstein, that's clickbait wearing fancy clothes." — Joe Getty [11:19]
• “Everybody wants to be famous and thinks they’re going to be famous, and thinks fame alone is currency. When it's not.” — Joe Getty [28:52]
• "Let's get this out of the way. He is embarrassingly handsome. His hair seasoned with silver. At ease in his own eminence. Live, ardent, energetic. A glimmer of optimism in his eye. Kennedy-esque." — Vogue, read by Jack Armstrong [38:11], with hosts’ uproarious reactions

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------| | 01:31 | Grammy Awards satire, Trevor Noah, and Trump’s rant | | 04:42 | The Epstein files: media coverage & clickbait | | 17:45 | Civil rights protests vs. modern protests | | 21:30 | The fleeting wealth of Olympic athletes | | 35:16 | ICE agents’ masks and LAPD’s stance | | 37:39 | Vogue’s fawning Gavin Newsom profile |

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Overall Tone

The episode is sharp, sardonic, and full of quick banter. The hosts maintain their signature balance of skepticism, irreverence, and pointed cultural critique. Whether lampooning the press, celebrities, or politicians, Armstrong and Getty keep the conversation lively, accessible, and deeply entertaining.

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For those who missed the episode, this summary captures the heart of Armstrong & Getty's commentary, the flow of arguments, and the unique edge of the show’s dialogue—cutting through hype, clickbait, and political gloss with humor and incisiveness.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[iHeart Radio Announcer]

See broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Song of the Year.

[Jack Armstrong]

Congratulations, Billie Eilish. Wow, that is a Grammy that every artist wants. Almost as much as Trump wants Greenland. Which makes sense. I mean, because Epstein's island is gone, he needs a new one to hang out with Bill Clinton, so. Oh, I told you, it's my last year. What are you going to do about it? Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

All right, I've got to. Come on, Andy. Oh, I've made a really super dangerous joke in front of 100% people who will love that joke. You're so brave.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, When Ricky Gervais does that sort of thing, it's my last year. I'll do whatever I want. He, like, took some brutal shots at Hollywood elite right in front of them. Trevor Noah said exactly what they all wanted to hear and then acted like he was right. I agree with you. I do not get the Trevor Noah thing. And I'm not one of those people that he's not funny because I don't agree with the politics. I think Jon Stewart's one of the funniest people who's ever lived. And I don't agree with much of what he says. Lots of examples like that.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trevor Noah has never said to my mind one funny thing. Not one. How did he host the Grammys six years in a row? I don't get it. Anyway, it doesn't matter. So Donald Trump responded to this. What does he always say about barking dogs or something?

[Joe Getty]

Well, Churchill used to say, you can't stop and throw rock at every dog that barks and it's actually superpower. I learned it as a kid. Some kid would be trying to get your goat and tease you or whatever. You just look at him and ignore him.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like a superpower.

[Joe Getty]

But Trump's the opposite. Anybody can pick a fight with Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Long Truth Social Post last night Late at night the Grammy Awards are the worst in all caps. Virtually unwatchable. CBS is lucky not to have this garbage litter their airwaves any longer. The host, Trevor Noah, whoever he may be, is almost as bad as Jimmy Kimmel at the low ratings Academy Awards. Noah said incorrectly in all quotes are in all caps about me that Donald Trump and Bill Clinton spent time on Epstein Island. Wrong. Exclamation point. Explanation. Explanation. I can't speak for Bill, but I have never been to Epstein island nor anywhere close until tonight's false and defamatory statement. Have never been accused of being there, not even by the fake news media. Noah, a total loser. Better get his facts straight and get them straight fast. It looks like I'll be sending my lawyers to sue this poor, pathetic, talentless dope of an mc.

[Joe Getty]

Well, he didn't like stop to throw a rock at the dog that barked. He's unloading an Uzi.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll be sending my lawyers to sue this poor, pathetic, talentless dope of an emcee and suing him for plenty of dollars. Ask little George stephanopoulop no Sloppidopoulos. Ask little George Sloppadopoulos and others how that all worked out. Also asked cbs. Get ready Noah. I'm going to have some fun with you. President DJT and I guess since then he's announced a $5 billion lawsuit. Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

If he were just the host of the Apprentice, that would be an extraordinary unleashing a bile on social media as the potus. Good lord, these are odd times.

[Jack Armstrong]

So as we mentioned at the end of the show on Friday, because it happened right before we went off the air, they've released basically everything that people call The Epstein files. 3.2 million pages. That's funny. I tweeted out over the weekend I've made it through the first 1.2 million pages of just 1.8 million to go and I'll talk about it on Monday. And so many people. I don't know if you're like being level three sarcastic or what, but a lot of people seem to take me completely seriously. Thanks for putting all that time and effort in. And yeah, I did not pour through 3 million pages of documents over the weekend there were 2,000 videos and 180,000 pictures, which is a stunning amount of stuff. And as I mentioned last hour, I thought it was kind of interesting that the big three Sunday talk shows, your cbs, abc, NBC, NBC did it like as their third story. CBS ignored it completely. Good for Barry Weiss and her influence on Face of Nation. I have to believe that's Barry Weiss's influence. The fact that they didn't even mention it. As far as I could tell, ABC this Week with George Slopinopoulos led with it and like did 20 minutes on the Epstein Files with as Joe always points out, let me know if anything interesting happens with nothing interesting. Right. Actually. Well, I'll get to that in a second. So here is one of the many headlines in the New York Times over the weekend. I don't know how many articles they had about it. A dozen on just Sunday alone. How Trump appears in the Epstein files. The New York Times found more than 5,300 files with references to Mr. Trump and related terms. They include salacious and unverified claims as well as documents that had already been made public. And then when you get into the paragraphs of the story, it shows that almost all of the mentions of Trump came after he and Epstein quit hanging out together. And they're just, Epstein was following Trump like really closely in the news and everything like that. And like every newspaper article that would ever come up or TV appearance or anything like that, he would, he would like document or keep or send to somebody and say Trump, blah blah, blah, blah blah. So they're all those, they got nothing to do with nothing.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And same with Trump as all these other names like ABC News. I should have grabbed the audio. So they have their legal correspondent, blah blah blah, head of Wells Fargo bank, blah blah blah. Who wants blah blah naming all these names appear, appear in the Epstein files. And then they would go on to mention that the, this Justice Department and other justice departments, cuz this stuff has been around for a long, long time, deemed the evidence unverifiable, the sources were, you know, making it up, blah blah blah.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody was ever charged or the mentions were completely innocuous. Like, hey, the latest season of the Apprentice is boring and Trump sucks. I mean that's in the Epstein files, quote, unquote.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, some of it was people like not even being, not even being falsely accused of somebody by somebody that the Justice Department then deems an A not credible witness. Sometimes it was like you said, yeah, they're just like somehow mentioned get mentioned like, I don't know I was at a party where somebody who ends up being a criminal 20 years later was there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And somehow that gets mentioned and these news organizations that put those names out. H. How do you not have any standards whatsoever? And then the, and then ABC News said after that they'd say, you know, one of the names that they mentioned, head of this financial firm, when asked by ABC News, said, I'm guilty of nothing, have never been charged with nothing and didn't do anything. We're still waiting for comments back from blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you went to these people for comments when they've never been accused of anything at all, ever?

[Joe Getty]

They were at a fundraiser 20 years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's outrageous.

[Joe Getty]

Would you like to explain yourself? No.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the reason I'm making a big deal out is you don't want to live in a country where any investigation that anybody's name gets swept up, gets thrown out there into the media for people who, you know, hate your politics or your company or whatever, so they.

[Joe Getty]

Can hint darkly that it's some real dirt about you. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

To act like something happened when nothing happened, not just hasn't been proven yet. I mean, there's no indication to have any reason to think that anything happened. And you put his name and picture up on ABC News on your, on your most valued news show. That's outrageous.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Getty]

It's shameful.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, we have no standards. And that was the very argument that Trump was. And the Justice Department was making all along. Well, if we release all these documents, all kinds of names are going to be thrown around that just were tangential to investigations. Never found them to be guilty of anything. There's no reason. But the names got thrown out there and the media did exactly what was predicted, acted like it means something, as we predicted.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

What would you do if news organizations started coming to you for. Because, you know, hell, I don't know Jeffrey Epstein, but I could have been. We could have been at a talk radio event in New York sometime where he was there. I have no idea. If, if, if a news organization came to you for a comment, I, I just think I might ignore it.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Yeah, Yeah, I think so. Because this, like the other waves, will go away and never be discussed again. So I'd be tempted to do that. But you do risk the whole dignifying it with a denial thing. I may have attended a fundraiser or two in which Mr. Epstein was there. I have never committed a crime. I' accused of a crime. Never been with an underage girl, blah, blah, blah, blah. It just seems like, oh my God, how about witches? Are you a witch? I'd like a detailed denial of your witchiness.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the New York Times acts like it's meaningful that Trump's name shows up all those times, even though then they many paragraphs later point out that his name just shows up because Epstein was obsessed with Trump and, and was constantly emailing people about Trump. That doesn't mean Trump did anything. It's just, it's so, I don't know, it's so. Just seems like amateur journalism, which you ought to expect better than that from the New York Times. It kind of is.

[Joe Getty]

I've just recently read two really good things about journalism. One, Peggy Noonan commenting on just how journalism has fallen and a long, long profile of Tucker Carlson and why he's gotten as crazy as he has. And it all has to do with clickbait. And I think the New York Times dresses up its clickbait like in a tuxedo and top hat, but that Trump appears 235 times in the Epstein, that's clickbait wearing fancy clothes. Whereas your ABC News and then you're, you get down to the Guardian or whatever, they're just, they're just, you know, trampy clickbait, but everybody's clickbait.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, like, so one of the stories is that do you remember Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous Robin Leach, if you remember that show?

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Champagne caviar wishes and champagne dreams or what was that slogan?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous host, Robin Leach. And that was back what, the 90s. Does it go all the way back to the 80s? I don't know. I think the 80s he was a big deal to done. Allegedly strangled a young woman at a sex party. According to the latest Jeffrey Epstein document dump, a purported victim told authorities that leech who died a long, long time ago was spotted at orgies. According to the FBI document, he was never charged in connection with any wrongdoing related to the disgraced pedophile complaint. Claims to have a video of high profile sex parties dealing with cartels and having witnessed Robin Leach strangle a young girl to death at a party, according to an unsubstantiated claim. So you go ahead and run with a claim that Robin Leach strangled a girl to death and that at these, at these orgies people just be, ah, dang, another one died and would be all part of a cover up of strangling a young girl to death.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that that actually happened and, and of course, when it was investigated, and lots of people have investigated these things for many, many, many, many years, there was nothing. The person was a crackpot or a drug addict or whatever the hell their problem was, Right? And yet the New York Times.

[Joe Getty]

You can't prove a negative. Right? The strongest word you can use is unsubstantiated. You can't say false in the law enforcement business unless, you know, except in certain narrow circumstances.

[Jack Armstrong]

But that is why this stuff shouldn't come out. I mean, that's crazy. I think I know, I know personally a few people that believe all this stuff is true, that the rich and powerful are trafficking around, you know, young people and having sex with them and murdering them and all kinds of stuff. The panda eyes thing that we talked about and just all. I don't think any of that stuff's happening. I just don't. The idea that Robin Leach, a big star, strangled a young woman to death in a giant orgy and, you know, the powerful covered it up, I think is insane.

[Joe Getty]

But what would Don Johnson say, huh? Just trying to come up with a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Contemporary, but then to put the guy. The guy's dead, but the put the guy's name out there with this false claim that nobody ever substantiated. We can't live in that world.

[Joe Getty]

So the long and short of the Tucker thing was that he became more and more crazed for clicks and responses, particularly in a war with Breitbart when it was run by Steve Bannon, and that he started with very, very high aspirations. But as it became more and more and more clear that the more salacious and the more like tribal direction signally it was, the more clicks it got. He totally abandoned any pretense of honor or standards and just went full click bait and extreme madness. And it's all a version of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the most interesting thing about that book, there's a new whole book out about Tucker Carlson's rise is it basically lays out how much money there is in clicks. It's just, you know, we all know that, but it's even magnitudes more than I even realized.

[Joe Getty]

And in media, that's the only money there is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So that's what leads you to, you know, put out an article that says, Robin Leach strangled a young girl to death at a party. Is the headline so that you like I click on it. Any thoughts on any of this? Text line 415295 KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Friday kick off the Winter Olympics in style with the opening ceremony from Italy featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey. Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold. Lindsey for sensational the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Guest Commentator]

You have the governor and local officials there in some cases inciting violence. They're encouraging citizens to disrupt the operations of law enforcement and it sets up a dangerous situation.

[Joe Getty]

They're calling for peaceful.

[Guest Commentator]

Well, they are, but they're also saying to resist. They're also saying to, you know, they're doxing the agents of, of ice. So the reason that ice agents wear masks is to protect their own identities and protect their own families. And in some circumstances they've, they've had a price put on their heads effectively by local officials. And that's what's created the dangerous conditions.

[Joe Getty]

More on the question of masks coming up for law enforcement because it is an interesting topic to discuss, but I wanted to hit you with something really eloquent. Peggy Noonan wrote Protests in Minnesota. She said those who've taken to the streets are indignant, emotionally engaged, opposed and driven to show opposition. But watching them, I thought we don't know how to protest anymore. We're losing this knowledge within human memory. America was the stage of one of the greatest protest movements in all history, the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s. Its power came from a dignity that was majestic and couldn't be denied. Go back to the photos of the marches in Selma, Montgomery and Birmingham. The protesters mean their their faces were sober. They presented themselves as adult who were morally serious. They were morally responsible and meant moral business. Look at their faces. They were sacrificial. They were risking their physical safety by putting themselves on the line for great purpose. They knew civil disobedience must be civil and peaceful resistance. Peaceful. They deliberately appealed to the conscience of a nation and were certain that that nation, America, had a conscience to which an appeal could be made, which was a compliment. She mentions MLK non violence is morally grounded in Christianity and historically tested by Gand. He knew that was the way of the strong, not the weak. She talks about Bull Connor and the fire hoses and the police dogs and how King knew which side America would take and he was right. Current protesters should emulate that dignity and power, not fall into formless jeering and harassment. And here's their key sentence. Instead they seem to have a spirit of I'm so upset I have a right to act out due to my sharper sense of injustice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mm.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, therefore interfere with law enforcement and fight them and feel like nothing should happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also, you didn't have large elements in the civil rights movement who were Marxists who just wanted to tear down all of Western civilization.

[Joe Getty]

Right. They had a wanted violence specific goal.

[Jack Armstrong]

And yeah, the masks thing is interesting and the LAPD just made an announcement about that. We'll get to that. Among other topics coming up. Hope you can stay here. Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[iHeart Radio Announcer]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

This is pitiful. A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. What a hype. Early spring, probably. They used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out and they used to eat it. You're hypocrites, all of you. It's one of my all time favorite movies. Groundhog Day with Bill Murray. So deep. So much to ponder there. Maybe I'll watch some of it today with my kids on this Groundhog Day. And they did pull the groundhog out of the ground and he said ice out. They stuffed it back at the ground for making a political statement.

[Joe Getty]

It's not the time of place. Groundhog, shut up and be a groundhog.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm as interested in what a rodent thinks of our immigration policies as any musician, I will tell you that.

[Joe Getty]

Booyah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just came across. I'll have to get to this later. Why did New York Post do this? So the Olympics start in right after the super bowl, the Winter Olympics there in Italy. And it's got a laundry list of well known Olympic stars over the years who then either went bankrupt or became drug addicts or became prostitutes or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's a very New York Post.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. Because becoming a household name for a week in some obscure sport doesn't make you rich for the rest of your life. Which you might not understand as a 19 year old, whatever you are, and you want a silver medal, gold medal or whatever, you're not, you're not set for life because of that. We, you know, we make the joke every year we all become ice skating experts. You know, for two weeks we care about ice skating, then we don't care at all. Which is something you might want to pay attention to. If you own the gold medal of ice skating, nobody's gonna. You were. I kind of remember the name.

[Joe Getty]

What year was that?

[Jack Armstrong]

You did something. But I'm not.

[Joe Getty]

It's gotta be tough though, because. Oh yeah, world, sure. You're huge.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of what they talk about in this article. But long, long list of these huge stars and how many of them have sold their medals over the years?

[Joe Getty]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which I could understand.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, 10 years in, you're just a regular person living in a suburb somewhere. And you think somebody would give me $80,000 for this thing? Yeah, I'll sell it.

[Joe Getty]

What does that metal cost, though? Because I was gonna say it's not like you get $600,000 for it. Depends on who you are. You get 10, 15, 20 grand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Depends on who you are. You remember Ryan Lochte?

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's the one who faked being robbed and all that different sort of stuff. The swimmer, remember him? He was all kinds of trouble.

[Joe Getty]

That's some sort of wacky experience in Brazil. A gas station bathroom or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, he made the whole thing up. Then they had it on video and he had to admit it and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, he won. He's one of the most decorated stars in Olympic history. But he ended up going broke, like so many of them do. Then just last month, the 41 year old, he's only 41. And it was a long time ago when he was a star. He sold all three of his golds at an auction for $385,000. I don't know who would buy those. I don't know why you think they're worth that. But I gotta believe if you think you could get 400 grand for those things, how would you make the argument to keep them? Some of them may got a lot less, though. I guess I'm gonna do this here. Remember that great big fat wrestler? Poor guy. Can you give me a little more on Gardner? Oh, the miracle on the mat. He beat the Russian legend and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, he went broke really, really fast. Poor guy. He got a few endorsement deals after the Olympics that paid around $5,000 each.

[Joe Getty]

Boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which didn't do much for the $70,000 in credit card debt he had racked up during that period of time where he, you know, he's probably on going on Tonight show and all this different sort of stuff. And it was a really, really cool story. Yeah, but you're like 20 years old. Okay. And now, you know, that's all the attention I've got for amateur wrestling. I'm gonna go back to my life now and there's just not necessarily that much money in it. Just because you won the gold medal.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

That.

[Joe Getty]

That one makes me sad. I know. Yeah, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're all.

[Joe Getty]

It was the toast of the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they talk to these various athletes who talk about how, you know what? I dedicated my entire life to this. I got up early in the morning and went and skated every single day and after school and then I finally reached the pinnacle. And yeah, that's all true, but the universe doesn't owe you being wealthy because you got really good at an obscure talent. Right?

[Joe Getty]

What's interesting is that the media have figured out that we love that quest and we love those stories and we love to watch them. And so is it NBC has the Olympics? I think so NBC, they, they really, really, really play this stuff up. And so it feels for a minute like Rulon Gardner is one of the most important people in the world and will always be beloved in the rest of it. But then, you know, it's just, it's fool's gold.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a tough one.

[Joe Getty]

It is.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a bunch of big names that you would remember over the years. I won't go through each one of their stories. They're all sad and tragic and so many of them and a lot of them, they just, you know, they have multiple divorces and they lose all their money and then they end up selling.

[Joe Getty]

Their medals and oh boy, it reminds me of the NFL, which has gotten a lot better at this. I, I don't know the, the long and short of it, but of rookies. They have seminars, meetings for the rookies and they tell them, look, the average NFL career is, whatever it is, 2.3 seasons or whatever, the vast majority of you guys are gonna make a pretty good chunk of money very, very briefly. Remember that, please. They ought to have that for Olympic athletes too. Here's your window. Here's your probable window of financial gain as a gold medal winner. Unless you're one of those transcendent, you know, winners. That would be good for those people to know. I feel bad for them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's a 34 year old shot, only 34 at this point, won their medal years ago. Whatever medal they won was a manager at a Memphis bakery talking about how it's just very difficult for a shot putter out there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm sure. Probably really good at this. Heave the cake over there. Needs to be over there on the shelf.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't, I don't know. So what do you. I guess, huh? That's a tough one. Because your kid. So you're getting, you're driving your kid over to ice skating practice at 5 o' clock in the morning so they can skate for an hour and a half before school starts and then doing some more, whatever, gymnastics after school and on the weekends, going to all the tournaments and everything like that. As the parent you got to kind of think about is this, do we want to spend all our time on this, or am I telling them on a regular basis? You know, even if you become the best in the world at this, maybe even for a couple of Olympics in a row, might not necessarily be worth anything. So just as long as you know that.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think.

[Joe Getty]

I think probably what's changed in the equation is the worship of fame in the modern world. I mean, people have always looked to famous people and oud and odd and that sort of thing, but everybody wants to be famous and thinks they're going to be famous and thinks fame alone is currency.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

When it's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. I think that is absolutely true. That is probably the big difference.

[Joe Getty]

I know the polls of little kids asking them, do you want to be this, that, or the other famous has gone from, you know, a rare answer indeed to virtually everybody says, I want to be famous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You can't go to the bank and say, I'd like to get a loan for a home and say, I'm famous. So if I could get a loan.

[Joe Getty]

My collateral is people know me wherever I go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Doesn't work that way currently. They might not a month from now.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what I think of that. That's interesting. I'll bet you. Well, if we're old, Joe and I are in the winter of our lives.

[Joe Getty]

And the winter Olympics of our lives. That's the way I like to think of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Back in the day, it seems like your Dorothy Hamills or whatever that won gold medals in the 70s became, you know, giant pitch people for, you know, Ford or Tide or whatever for many, many, many years. And you probably did become wealthy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think that probably has to do with the. The whole. The flattening of the media and flattening of who becomes famous. Just the number of people who you would say are really, really famous. It was like, you know, five a year back in the 1970s, as opposed to now. There's a new one like in the morning and then a new, new one in the afternoon.

[Jack Armstrong]

True. That is true. What a downer of a story. The New York Post does wonder if they could work that into the Olympic coverage. And now we got the gold medal competition. Keeping in mind that the last six gold medal winners ended up either drug addicts or prostitutes. Let's watch their routine.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's been a springboard for a lovely philosophical discussion, so I thank the New York Post, but, yeah, that would be. What do you think's More likely, Jim, she turns out to be a prostitute or a drug addict or both.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm predicting a series of broken marriages and then a foreclosure. Jim. Let's see if she lands the double axel. And she lands it. Oh.

[Joe Getty]

She can see the gold medal from where she is.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then the homelessness.

[Joe Getty]

But first, the gold medal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somewhere out there, a future ex husband who will take all her money as applauding. That was quite the routine.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's the fame thing. It's absolutely the fame thing. Because I think back in the day, if you were a wrestler or whatever, you would realize I really care about this. I love this. I'm approaching being the best in the world or damn near. And I'm gonna go for this fully cognizant that then I'm gonna go back to work at my dad's, you know, auto parts store or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. God, I feel like somebody like a manager or a coach or a parent should be stepping in with all these people. I feel like if one of my kids was like the world's greatest bobsledder or something like that, I would at some point gently tell them, you could win the gold medal in bobsledding, but that's, you know, you're still gonna have to get a job doing something.

[Joe Getty]

Their loved ones are gonna have to tell them that because the coaches, they want the, the athletes to think this. I will transcend human life if I win this medal. I will become a God.

[Jack Armstrong]

It will actually, like, in not as many years as you think, become kind of like an interesting trivia thing somebody throws out at dinner while you're all eating. Hey, you know, something interesting about Jim here. When the gold medal is a bobsledder back in 98. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

That must have been cool. Yeah, it was kind of cool.

[Joe Getty]

It's amazing. Is it scary? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's about all it'll be worth, right? Yeah. What an interesting situation. Thank you. New York Post. Trying to undermine NBC before the Olympic. You know, the, the, the, the. It's not under its reality.

[Joe Getty]

You're not a fan of reality.

[Jack Armstrong]

The sheen of everything being wonderful. And like, like that line I like from the drive by truckers. There's no such thing as a happy ending. It's all just where you roll the credits on the. In the Olympics, they roll the credits at your 18 years old. You just won the Olympics. Time stops. You're, you know, you're. You're in. You're an amber now for forever as that thing.

[Joe Getty]

You are the toast of the entire globe. And you roll the credits and you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don'T need to worry about another thing.

[Joe Getty]

Even though witticisms from Snoop Dogg generally at the Olympics these days.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, even though you're only 18 years old. Anywho. Okay, so the LAPD came out and said something interesting about a new idea Gavin Newsom had going against Gavin Newsom's idea for making it illegal for ice officers to wear masks in the state of California. And LAPD came out and had something to say about that. We'll get to that next. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Ilia Malady redefining the Sport.

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[Jack Armstrong]

If you want to throw up in your mouth a little bit, stay tuned because Vogue gave Gavin Newsom the full happy ending tug article. What the hell is going on as he gets ready to run for president in the way that Vogue always does with Democrats. Remember when they did that to Beto o'? Rourke?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yes, the infamous Beto.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, it's, wait till you hear this quote about what they said about Gavin. It is, it's hard to believe. It's not parody. It really, really is.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. So.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole masked ice agents thing is, is quite the interesting story. And I don't know exactly where I am on this or how we're going to figure this out as a country because you got these ice agents mask. We generally don't like the idea of our law enforcement being masked for all kinds of, you know, I think obvious reasons. But now in the world of doxing, if, if people can figure out who you are and they hate you, well, then they figure out, you know, who you are. And people are getting threats at home or their wives threatened and at the front door of their own house or kids at school and all kinds of horrible stuff. I don't know how we're going to work this out.

[Joe Getty]

I don't either, really. It's a real conundrum.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, Gavin Newsom came up with this idea. California has got a ban now on ICE masks in California. ICE cannot wear masks. Calling. But in a rebuke of Gavin Newsom's ban, this is what the LA Police Department has said. The reality of one armed agency approaching another armed agency to create conflict over something that would be a misdemeanor at best, or an infraction. It doesn't make any sense. So they're not going to do it. You're not going to have the LAPD going and giving tickets to her or arresting ICE agents over something that is, you know, a misdemeanor at best, as he said. Or an infraction. It's like a parking ticket.

[Joe Getty]

Meanwhile, every Marxist smashing up a window in America is wearing their fake Covid mask. And I get the difference. I really do. But so much virtue signaling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you got to interesting some of the stories of these ICE agents of, like, getting a letter. Here's a picture of your wife and kids, you know, in their back in the backyard of your home.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, that's horrible. Really is. Okay, so we'll get away from horrible because this is just too good. This is just too good. So Vogue is doing the full glossy Gavin Newsom's the next JFK thing that they do with Democratic candidates every now and then. I just sent everybody the picture to the group text. Did you see the picture? Is that one of your Annie Libbyitz pictures? She's the famous photographer that makes everybody look so fantastic. It's a family picture of Gavin Newsom. And one kid's holding the other kid upside down because they're so wacky and normal. They got all their dogs in the picture again.

[Joe Getty]

Everybody's just so beautiful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Katie, you have a comment on that? Before I get to this quote, that.

[Joe Getty]

One dog looks like we all feel.

[Jack Armstrong]

He'S trying to get the hell away from. From him.

[Joe Getty]

But listen, that dog's moving, Idaho. He's half out of the frame.

[Jack Armstrong]

Listen to this from the new Vogue profile of Gavin Newsom. Starts this way. Let's get this out of the way. He is embarrassingly handsome. His hair seasoned with silver. At ease in his own eminence. Okay, I gotta stop there before I go on. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta take a breath. I gotta take a knee. At ease in his own eminence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, there's more, there's more. I'll read that sentence again because that is just. How are you not embarrassed to fawn over anybody like That I already feel.

[Joe Getty]

Like I'm in a bar fight and a guy just like really tagged me and I'm thinking, oh, this is. This is bad. I'm getting woozy already. Yeah. Oh, this is bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get this out of the way. He's embarrassingly handsome, his hair seasoned with silver. At ease with his own eminence. Live, ardent, energetic. A glimmer of optimism in his eye.

[Joe Getty]

Kennedy, you almost have to slow down a little bit. There's so much here.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm comfortable with my own eminence. I need to get more comfortable like Gavin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's right. Not only does he have eminence, he's at ease with it. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Which is just interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

At ease with his own eminence. Live, ardent, energetic. A glimmer of optimism in his eye. Kennedy esque.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, how would you describe Joe?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Lithe and ardent. I mean, let's start there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come for the live, stay for the ardent. That's what I say.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord, this is too much.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is like a parody. If I was going to write a parody of Vogue doing a Gavin piece, this is what I would have said.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. This is Andrew Styles in the freebie.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's embarrassingly handsome, his hair seasoned with silver. At ease with his own eminence. Live, ardent, energetic. A glimmer of optimism in his eye. Kennedy esque. Add that to his stunning wife and four adorable kids and the executive strut of a self made millionaire.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. God, if I had Pelosi money in my pocket, I could be a self made millionaire too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. Add that to his stunning wife, four adorable kids, and the executive strut of a self made millionaire.

[Joe Getty]

His other dog just moved in Nashville. Whoops.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that is unbelievable. I gotta read the whole article. I mean, if that's the opening paragraph, what is this article like?

[Joe Getty]

You know what? I gotta dig up the old Beto one and we'll play a little game. Beto or Gavin?

[Jack Armstrong]

God, you have no shame. Vogue. If you missed the segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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