Fresh Off The Carcass

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Fresh Off The Carcass"
Date: December 16, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Guest: Paul Hellman (Scouting America)

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Episode Overview

This episode weaves together humor, commentary, and spirited discussion on topics in sports, media, current events, and youth development. The focal point is a fundraising effort for Scouting America, highlighted by a lively and insightful interview with veteran scout leader Paul Hellman. The hosts also explore college football triumphs and scandals, the chaos of streaming NFL games, breaking news on high-profile violence, ancient human innovation, and the alarming world of AI children’s toys.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. College Football: Indiana’s Heisman Moment & Sportsmanship

[02:58–06:43]

• Fernando Mendoza’s Heisman Speech: The hosts play and praise a motivating, humble speech after Indiana’s quarterback wins the Heisman Trophy.
  • Quote: "I want every kid out there who feels overlooked, underestimated to know I was you." — Fernando Mendoza (recited by Jack Armstrong) [03:20]
• Contrasting Sportsmanship: They contrast Mendoza’s class with Diego Pavia’s vulgar Instagram reaction ("f all the voters").
  • Quote: "One sign that he brought with him said f Indiana. That's gonna cost him millions of dollars in the draft." — Jack Armstrong [05:10]
• The Peyton Manning–Ryan Leaf Anecdote: Illustrates the value of mindset and professionalism in athletes.
  • Quote: “[Manning] said, ‘I’m going to ask if I can get a key to the stadium…’ [Leaf] said, ‘me and all my buddies are going to Hawaii.’ That was the difference.” — Joe Getty [06:00]

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2. Sporting Events & The Streaming Confusion

[06:48–10:21]

• Fragmented Football Broadcasts: Tedious maze of streaming deals—Paramount+, Prime, Peacock, Netflix, ESPN, etc.
  • Quote: "So if you want to watch an NFL game, you would need one of those streaming services. Yeah, but you could also use Hulu Live, YouTube TV, cable…" — Timothy Taylor, guest [07:04]
• Frustration for Casual Fans: Even diehards struggle to locate games or understand shifting schedules.
  • Quote: “After a while, you figure out… but I remember the first time I was super excited about a Thursday Night Football game… I couldn't figure out where the hell to find it.”—Jack Armstrong [08:32]
• Host Banter: Jokes about launching their own streaming service with obscure content.

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3. Brown University Shooting: A Possible Targeted Attack

[14:00–15:52]

• Breaking News Coverage: Discussion on new reporting suggesting the Brown University shooter may have specifically targeted conservative student Ella Cook.
  • Quote: “But if it's true that she was targeted, that's a big story because she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus.” — Joe Getty [15:15]
• Potential Motive Shift: Could indicate a political or ideological motivation, differing from typical mass shooting narratives.
  • Quote: "Another Charlie Kirk style assassination. You don't get to be alive if you disagree with progressivism." — Jack Armstrong [15:52]

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4. Domestic Terror Plot & Media Narratives

[16:19–19:39]

• Group Linked to Anti-Israel, Anti-Capitalist Rhetoric: Exposes the Turtle Island Liberation Front and their planned New Year's Eve bombings.
• Media's Framing: Hosts criticize mainstream coverage for obscuring the group’s antisemitic motives by labeling them simply as “anti-capitalist” or “anti-ICE.”
  • Quote: "They hold significant ties to the anti-Israel movement… an anti capitalist, anti government movement centered around militant anti Israel rhetoric and open endorsement, organization of violence." — Jack Armstrong [17:15]
  • Quote: "Why abc? Why? Or npr? … That's exactly what I heard this morning on NPR. That they're anti capitalist, which is popular..." — Joe Getty [19:04]
• Satirical Banter: Armstrong & Getty lampoon journalistic double standards and media discomfort with labeling left-wing extremism.

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5. Ancient Human Innovation: Fire by Neanderthals

[20:12–21:57]

• Amazing Discovery: New evidence pushes the first human-created fire from 50,000 back to 400,000 years ago.
  • Quote: "Making fire by humans. Way older than we thought. That's interesting." — Joe Getty [21:48]
• Implications: Discusses the pivotal role of fire in human dietary evolution, brain growth, and civilization.

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6. The Power of Scouting: Interview with Paul Hellman

[25:32–34:45]

Scouting’s Mission

• Developing Leaders: The explicit goal is youth leadership and character development.
  • Quote: "Create leaders for tomorrow. Who's going to be our elected officials in 20 years from now? That's what we're creating." — Paul Hellman [26:05]
• Scout-Led Model: Kids, not adults, plan and run activities—from younger patrols to organizing outings—fostering maturity and self-sufficiency.
  • Quote: “What we are really creating here in Scouting America is a laboratory of learning.” — Paul Hellman [26:58]

Values Instilled

• Servant Leadership: Emphasis on serving others, learning by teaching, and the Greenleaf leadership paradigm.
  • Quote: "You never learn so much as when you're teaching, and you're never as… much of a servant as when you're leading. Because you realize, oh, this isn't about me. This is about everybody but me." — Jack Armstrong [28:19]
• Respect, Patriotism, & Tenacity: Noted for developing respect—for peers, environment, and country—and rising to high expectations.
  • Quote: “People rise to your expectations, especially kids... it's one of the great lessons I think we've forgotten in America.” — Jack Armstrong [31:21]
• Comparisons to MBA Programs: Scouting imparts practical leadership skills often taught in university graduate programs.
  • Quote: “What we teach at Boy Scouts America is exactly what you learn when you go get an MBA.” — Paul Hellman [29:58]

Accessibility & Fundraising

• Cost: Between $200–$250 per year, which can present a barrier to lower-income families.
  • Quote: "It's just... It's tragic that any kid would not be involved in Scouting for questions of cost." — Jack Armstrong [33:05]
• Covid’s Impact: Pandemic challenges reduced active units; donations help restore group capacity and access.
• Patriotism: Flag ceremonies, American flag on uniforms, and exclusive right to retire flags.
  • Quote: "We're one of the few organizations in the United States that's allowed to retire American flags." — Paul Hellman [34:07]

Memorable Moments

• Inside Jokes: The tradition of the “Leader’s Minute” running long, with scouts humorously counting out loud to sixty. [35:55]
• Fundraising Milestone: Gratitude as donations surpass $50,000, with playful encouragement for more "whale" (large) donors. [44:52]

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7. Dangers of AI Toys for Children

[40:58–44:01]

• Research Finds AI Toys Give Inappropriate Responses: Some toys provide instructions on using knives, lighting matches, and even parrot Chinese Communist Party talking points regarding Taiwan, Xi Jinping, etc.
  • Quote: “When asked why Xi Jinping looks like a cartoon Winnie the Pooh, [the toy] responded: ‘That your statement is extremely inappropriate and disrespectful. Such malicious remarks are unacceptable.’” — Jack Armstrong [43:27]
  • Quote: “To sharpen a knife, hold the blade at 20 degrees against a stone, slide it across the stone and smooth the even strokes… For a four year old, four's a little young.” — Joe Getty [42:42]
• Host Satire: Darkly comic commentary on giving AI toys to kids—“Why don't you give them a can of gasoline in a match?” — Joe Getty [40:50]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Being Overlooked:
  “You don't need the most stars, hype, or rankings. You just need discipline, heart, and people who believe in you… Believing in your own abilities.”
  —Heisman Speech via Jack Armstrong [03:20]

• On Media Spin:
  “We'll choose that from their smorgasbord. Why, why ABC?”
  —Jack Armstrong [18:43]

• On Leadership:
  “Servant leadership… It's not about me. It's about everybody but me.”
  —Jack Armstrong [28:19]

• On Setting Expectations:
  “People rise to your expectations, especially kids. It's one of the great lessons I think we've forgotten.”
  —Jack Armstrong [31:21]

• On Fundraising Success:
  “We hit $50,000. $50,487!”
  —Joe Getty [44:52]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:58]—Indiana, Heisman, and sportsmanship
• [06:48]—NFL streaming confusion
• [14:00]—Brown University shooting/backstory
• [16:19]—Terror cell narrative and media critique
• [20:12]—Discovery: Ancient human fire
• [25:32]—Interview: Paul Hellman on Scouting
• [34:07]—Scouting and patriotism
• [40:58]—AI toys dangers, Chinese talking points
• [44:52]—Fundraising hits $50,000
• [46:00–End]—Final comedic wrap-up

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Tone & Style

The Armstrong & Getty style is conversational, rapid-fire, laced with dry humor, sarcasm, and blunt honesty—especially when criticizing media narratives or official stories. The episode mixes earnestness (especially around Scouting) with irreverent banter and pop-culture asides.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode blends sharp analysis, comedy, and earnest advocacy. Beyond the headlines, it champions youth leadership, calls out media distortions, gets real about modern parenting and tech, and delivers a poignant testament about the importance of investing in the next generation. All with the unmistakable, candid tone Armstrong & Getty fans love.

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For those interested in supporting Scouting America or learning more, visit armstrongandgetty.com.

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[Joe Getty]

If you follow college football at all, you know that Indiana was a surprise success team in the ranked number one in the college football playoffs that are about to begin. And their quarterback, Fernando Mendoza, won the biggest prize you can get in college football as an individual, the Heisman Trophy over the weekend. And a lot of his speech got a lot of attention. Here's a little of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an important one. I want every kid out there who feels overlooked, underestimated to know I was you. I was that kid, too. I was in your shoes. The truth is, you don't need the most stars, hype, or rankings. You just need discipline, heart, and people who believe in you. And you need to believe in your own abilities. I hope this moment shows you that chasing your dreams are worth it, no matter how big or. Or impossible they seem. God bless. Go Hoors.

[Paul Hellman]

Thank you guys all.

[Joe Getty]

I like that. Sure. And you hear that message a lot. Does anybody ever get up there like a LeBron? Who could get up there and say, I was the best at every stage of my entire life? Everybody knew I was going to be great. I knew I was going to be great. I became great. I am great. Nobody doubted me ever. And they were right. They shouldn't have doubted me. I'm fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't delude yourself. You're not LeBron James. I am. Give up your dreams. Get new dreams.

[Joe Getty]

Which would be a perfectly reasonable speech if you're a LeBron James. I've always been fantastic. Everybody knew I was fantastic. There was never a question that I was fantastic. And here I am.

[Paul Hellman]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hansen was telling us off the air a little bit about how Fernando is just a really great guy. Classy, you know, he's caring, he's helping care for his mom, who's got a serious disease. And one of the other guys who is up for it, Diego Pavia. Pavia. When he found out he didn't win, he Instagrammed out f all the voters.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Spotted partying in a New York City club after the Heisman ceremonies.

[Joe Getty]

Dude.

[Jack Armstrong]

One sign that he brought with him said f Indiana. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's gonna cost him millions of dollars in the draft.

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[Joe Getty]

Oh. Maybe tens of millions of dollars. Maybe his opportunity to, you know, make a living doing that job. How did somebody, a coach or a parent, not get to him and say, look, even if all you care about is money, if you want money, be gracious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Wow.

[Paul Hellman]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's the Shador Sanders principle multi. He was supposed to go in the first round. Multiple teams passed on him. And he fell to the final day of the draft, fifth round. Unbelievable.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bad judgment.

[Joe Getty]

I always. This is not really a sports thing. If you're a sports fan, you know this story way, way back in the day, many, many years ago. Geez, what it was it probably 25, 30 years ago, back when Peyton Manning was coming out of college, and it was him and this other guy, Ryan Leaf, and who was going to be the number one pick in the. And the Indianapolis Colts, who had the first pick, interviewed them both, and they asked Peyton Manning, so, what's your plan if we decide to choose you? And he said, well, I'm going to ask if I can get a key to the stadium because I'd like to be able to. I'm going to move here right away and be able to get in there early and start practicing and learning the playbook right away. And they asked Ryan Leaf the same question. If we draft you, what's your. What's your first plan? He said, well, me and all my buddies are going to Hawaii and we are going to. That was the difference. That was the difference.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Paul Hellman]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You'd think you'd be wise enough to at least fake that, but apparently, meanwhile.

[Jack Armstrong]

If your interest is more professional football than the college game and you're trying to figure out where the hell to find the game, this is for you.

[Timothy Taylor]

So on Sunday, you can watch the game on Paramount plus, which means on Thursday, you would watch them on Paramount plus. No, you would watch them on Prime Video. It's because Thursday Night Football is only on Prime. But if it's not a Thursday game, then it would be on Paramount plus. No, it would be on Peacock. It's because it's a Sunday night game and those are only on Peacock. So if you want to watch the Cowboys on Thursday, December 25, you would need Thursday. I would need Prime. No, you need Netflix. You know, it's because they're not on Prime. They're on Netflix. But if you want to watch the Chiefs, you need prime because they're not on Netflix. Let's take a step back. So if you want to watch an NFL game, you would need one of those streaming services. Yeah, but you could also use Hulu Live, YouTube, TV, cable. But if you don't have one of those and you want to watch the game on Monday, you. Then you would need one of those streaming services. No, why would you think it's Monday Night Football, which means you need ESPN Unlimited. It's because that's why.

[Joe Getty]

It's because that's why?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a funny phrase. Yeah, no kidding.

[Joe Getty]

So it's not just me because I'm a casual football fan. I don't see a game every weekend. Just now and then. I think I'd kind of like to see this if I look at the list, but I have trouble finding them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. After a while, you figure out, like, how to chat GPT it or which buddy to ask or whatever. But I remember the first time I was super excited about a Thursday Night Football game. I think maybe the Niners were playing.

[Joe Getty]

And I couldn't find.

[Jack Armstrong]

I couldn't figure out where the hell to find it until finally somebody tipped me off.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder if it's working the way they want it to, short term or long term?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I'm sure there's a giant cash grab. Yeah, I mean, if I'm launching Joe's streaming service, I've got reruns of Barney Miller, some classic soap operas with Luke and Laura, Anthony, Gary. What was his name? The old doesn't matter, he just passed away from the Luke and Laura of a hundred years ago soap opera drama. But, yeah, it's kind of a hodgepodge. Oh, and. And I've paid $100 million to the NFL to. To Spring Stre, so I'm sure that's good for the NFL in the near term.

[Joe Getty]

But. But for your service, you. You. It's the most popular TV show in America. So you get all those eyeballs that figure out where it is and go there. And you get to run all the ads for your shows that no people don't know exist until they tune into the Chiefs Cowboys game and find out that, oh, you got a new series about this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and if you've just never heard of to be in your effing life and you've got to go there to watch your favorite team. Now you've heard of what's to be. It's a streaming service that you've never.

[Joe Getty]

Heard of, clearly, obviously. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It comes up on my screen. I don't know what it is. It might be entirely about me. All shows about me. I have no idea.

[Joe Getty]

Would you watch that? No. Only shows about you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Last thing in the world I would watch.

[Joe Getty]

Really? No, I might.

[Jack Armstrong]

I might check the descriptions.

[Joe Getty]

There might be some years or episodes in there you might want to watch. Some. I definitely don't want to watch. I'm not. I'm never watching that episode.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, are we in your scenario, are we imagining there was, like, footage available and.

[Joe Getty]

Or they're just telling the story, documentary style with, you know, interviewing people who were there. Maybe some pistol pictures, maybe video, if it exists.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, oh, no.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there's episodes I would love to watch. There's episodes you couldn't make me watch with a gun.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would go to their headquarters and cut the power cable. My channel would be really boring.

[Joe Getty]

Watching TV again. Again.

[Jack Armstrong]

People on tv watching you on tv, Watching tv. That does sound good.

[Joe Getty]

Why that's always makes me laugh. Larry David said he was asked what I was on 60 Minutes. They asked Larry David what should be on his tombstone. He said, be on my tombstone. Is that a thing? You have to put something on your tombstone. I don't know. He watched a lot of sports.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's perfect.

[Joe Getty]

Why should you give money to the scouts this week? That's what we're raising money for. We'll have that for you coming up a little bit later. Among other things. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

He is not the typical school shooter.

[Jack Armstrong]

He didn't stay there and take his own life.

[Joe Getty]

He didn't wait to be confronted by police and shoot it out. He didn't surrender. He did this horrific act and then he disappeared into the ether.

[Jack Armstrong]

That means his motive may be only known to him.

[Joe Getty]

And that, you know, separates this from.

[Jack Armstrong]

A lot of these cases.

[Joe Getty]

Got to admit, I've had no interest in this story. The Brown University shooting. I've just assumed angry, sort of crazy, lunatic, loser, loser. Gonna be the same story you've heard a million times.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's horrible.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what we're gonna do about it. But I didn't think there is any news there till I read this. So the New York Times apparently has named who they think was the target of this guy's shooting. So I'm going to read from Mark Halperin. It's actually from his video cast today, but we didn't grab the audio. I believe in being transparent here. Mark Halpern said if I were editing the New York Times, I don't think I'd have put it in the paper today. But people are telling me that the family of Ella Cook, the Alabama young woman who was a sophomore, has been told that she was the target of what happened at Brown. She didn't get killed or shot. She was the target. That's why he went there, according to the New York Times. And she's alive and her family's been told she was a target. Mark Halperin goes on to say, I have no idea whether that's true. There's other theories about why the person did what they did. And since we don't know who the assailant is, it's going to be harder to say. But if it's true that she was targeted, that's a big story because she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, wait, she's dead.

[Joe Getty]

She's dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ella Cook.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, she's one of the people killed. Okay. Either way story's the same. She was one of the biggest conservatives on that campus. And that would lead us to a motive that might actually be way more meaningful than the usual story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Another Charlie Kirk style assassination. You don't get to be alive if you disagree with progressivism.

[Joe Getty]

She is a high profile conservative. One of the most high profile conservatives on the campus. And that's the campus Brown that every year we put out the. Here's their stupid list of words you can't say this year because they're the most out there crazy college in America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. That'll be interesting if this turns out to be the case.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Indeed. Oh, my God. In a somewhat similar story. Michael, play me clip number 21, please. This is from CBS News. Last night, the group allegedly was preparing to set bombs off in backpacks near five major business distribution facilities in Orange county and Lo Angeles. Federal officials say the terror attack was being timed for New Year's Eve so that the explosions would be masked by traditional firework celebrations. The Turtle Island Liberation Front, as they're known, is also plotting a 2026 attack against ICE agents. A fifth person authorities say is linked to this group has been arrested in New Iberia, Louisiana, charged with plotting a separate violent attack. Okay, that's not the way that's edited. I saw on ABC News they talked about this group a little bit and identified them as being anti capitalist.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's what they said.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anti ice.

[Joe Getty]

That's what they said on NPR this morning too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would you like to know what they actually are? It's a bizarre example of the sick. Hard to understand unless you study it. Red, green axis thing. Marxists and Islamic extremists. The scheme involved their bombing scheme involved painting Hamas triangles near their targets. And photos showed Free Palestine, Free Palestine stickers scattered across their bomb making stations. According to the criminal complaint, all these people who were arrested were charged by federal prosecutors with conspiracy. They hold significant ties to the anti Israel movement. They belong to the Turtle Island Liberation Front, an anti capitalist anti government movement centered around militant anti Israel rhetoric and open endorsement, organization of violence. And they have all sorts of evidence of their hardcore anti Israel, pro Palestine slogans. Free Palestine or Scorch the Earth, Death to Israel, Death to America, they're up with the Arab resistance, etc.

[Joe Getty]

I guess one of the problems with somebody who's into the Omni cause is if they do something, you don't actually know which of their many causes they did it for. But it sure seems like this could be all about hating on the Jews. But they want to turn it into its anti capitalism. Because that's kind of popular, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Well, not only that, but I'm not talking about them because they're open about their hatred of Israel and the Jews and support of Palestinian coverage. Exactly. Yeah. The news network said, oh, we don't want to say they're anti Jew, anti Israel. We'll just say they're anti ICE and anti capitalist. We'll choose that from their smorgasbord. Why? Why abc?

[Joe Getty]

Why? Or npr? Because that's exactly what I heard this morning on npr. That they're anti capitalist, which is popular.

[Jack Armstrong]

With their friggin dishonest, which is popular.

[Joe Getty]

With their crowd and can be explained away with, well, you know, with inequality and all. You can understand why.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Yeah, it's a little inconvenient that these murderous loser lunatics whose heads are so far up their own asses in their own neuroses, they can't even recognize reality. We don't want to mention that they're kind of down with the same things we are. So we'll pick these two things and describe them that way. You liar.

[Joe Getty]

So would I go down between my legs and come up from the bind or would I bend over backwards? How would I even do that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not going to tell you. How do you live your life? I'm a libertarian.

[Joe Getty]

Just figuring which would be easiest if I had to be in that position again.

[Jack Armstrong]

To each their own. That's, that's the First Amendment. It's not mentioned specifically in the first Amendment, the right to, you know. But it's there, it's implied, it's in the penumbra. That's a really esoteric Supreme Court joke.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty funny. How much time I got, Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

Two minutes.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, we got two minutes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh really? Yeah, we got an ample time.

[Joe Getty]

So then I got a new story. This has got nothing to do with anything we've been talking about. My son will be so into this because he's super into anthropology and evolution and all these different sorts of things. We, we started making fire way earlier than they thought they just discovered. How long ago did they think human beings were making fire?

[Jack Armstrong]

100 years ago.

[Joe Getty]

1947. No, 50,000 years ago. 50,000 years ago we were able to make fire and use it, the main thing being for cooking because it makes food so much more digestible and was able to enabled us to get way more nutrients and really, really explode and survive. That's the main advantage of fire and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably grew our big fat brains Absolutely. Well, you know, it's funny. In studying neurological development of fetuses, fat's incredibly important.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Allowed us to improve our diet, remove toxins from food, easier to absorb nutrients, all these different sorts of things that allowed us to become healthier and blah, blah, blah, more of us live that sort of thing. 50,000 years ago, that had been the number. It's now 400,000 years ago, based on new evidence that the Neanderthals, your people, were using flint and pyrite to make fires by a watering hole and had been doing it for several generations. So making fire by humans. Way older than we thought. That's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you've ever had an undercooked steak. I mean, some people really like rare steak, but an undercooked steak is really hard to chew.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, yeah, you take in more nutrients.

[Joe Getty]

How interesting. How about fresh off the carcass? You ever done that? Ripped it off with your incisors and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tried to chew it easy?

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[Joe Getty]

Raising money for the Scouts this week. We already got some great donations just in the last 15 minutes. David Cassidy's biggest fan gave a hundred bucks. Boy, that's an old story that goes way back to the beginning of the Armstrong and Getty show when we angered David Cassidy of the Partridge Family and he hung up on us. Didn't he call us a holes?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul Hellman]

Yep.

[Joe Getty]

Also, they cut my beard and forced me to eat it. That's a very long name. Gave 50 bucks.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's an odd name to give a child, but thanks for the donation.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you very much. You donated armstrongandgetty.com I absolutely love about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Scouting that it is proudly still teaching patriotism, traditional values, self reliance, you know, adaptability, hard work. Just absolutely love it.

[Joe Getty]

We'd like to welcome into the studio today our guest, Paul Hellman. Paul is a noted member of Scouting America with over 50 years of volunteer service to Scouting. Paul, you've been in almost every role in Scouting from a unit leader to a unit commissioner to now. You've been a council president at various times. Now you're on the executive committee and board of directors for a council. Paul, welcome into the Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Paul Hellman]

Thank you.

[Joe Getty]

What, what would be the number one thing you would say Scouting's trying to do?

[Paul Hellman]

Create leaders for tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

Create leaders for tomorrow.

[Paul Hellman]

Leaders for tomorrow. Who's going to be our elected officials in 20 years from now? That's what we're creating.

[Joe Getty]

It is amazing how many times I hear people running for office who say they were an Eagle Scout or in Scouting or whatever. That does come up a lot. But here's, here's what I found out and noticed that I didn't know before on how the adults just kind of stand back and watch because the kids are in charge. And you got like the 15 year olds who've been around for a while helping direct the, you know, the younger kids and then the younger kids grow into that and everything like that. Just the, the self sustained model that you've got. And then these kids, and I said this on the air after the first scouting thing I did. These kids don't act like other kids I've seen. They seem like they're in their 20s. A lot of these 15 year olds. How does Scouting do that?

[Paul Hellman]

It's excellent observation that you've made there. What we are really creating here in Scouting America is a laboratory of learning. You learn from the process, you learn from being, experiencing the model that we're trying to create, which is, let's create a environment with which you need to make decisions and you have to take care of others. And it's a boy led process, Scout led process, excuse me, boy or girl led. And so you'll have a 12 year old that becomes the patrol leader in a Scout troop. That patrol leader then is responsible for the activities that the youth and his patrol will do. On a campout, for instance, 32 hours or more. What are we going to do? How are we going to prepare our food? So that leader, that 12 year old leader will then help the other scouts make decisions, also do their rank advancements and learn some very basic things. What's the process about? Where do we set up our tent? Not only how do you set it up, but where do you set it up? How do you make sure it's in a safe position? Also, someday you should sit through a patrol leader council meeting. That's when the youth get together and they decide their program. What are we going to do for the next two or three months during our meeting?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, my son just had that meeting recently. No, I did not sit in and watch it. But that sounds really, really interesting. And they vote themselves on what they're going to do in the coming year and what they'll need and.

[Paul Hellman]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And all that sort of stuff. Yeah, Joe.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, it strikes me, Paul, that there's an old saying, you never learn so much as when you're teaching and you're never as as much of a servant as when you're leading. Because you realize, oh, this isn't about me. This is about everybody but me. That's why I'm leading. I mean, my God, you learn so much about human beings in a role like that.

[Paul Hellman]

Absolutely true. The Leadership model that we try to use is called servant leadership, something that was created by Robert Greenleaf, what, 25, 30 years ago. And that's the model that we portray and convey over to our adults who then translate that to the youth. And the youth training also uses the model and what we call National Youth Leadership Training. NYLT is where the youth go and learn the techniques of leadership. The adults do the same thing when they go to Wood Badge. Wood Badge training is really corporate leadership training in a wonderful environment in a Scout camp location.

[Joe Getty]

But like I said, my experience has been you want to talk about teenagers who look you in the eye and give you a firm handshake and refer to you as Mr. And all that sort of stuff that you don't see that much in modern America, man. It is a. It is, it is around Scouting. I'll tell you that it's true.

[Paul Hellman]

You think about the values we have in Scouting. Scout oath and Scout law teaches you to have respect for all that you're around and the environment, your fellow Scouts and everyone in the community.

[Joe Getty]

My son got elected, whatever the first step is, patrol leader for his little group recently. And he's taking it so seriously. And I'm so, I'm so proud of him and just amazed by that. He feels the responsibility of showing up to the extra meeting and being there and doing the things he's supposed to do. It's absolutely incredible.

[Paul Hellman]

Yeah, there's one of the things we do in Scouting America and I think we do this extremely well, is providing those environments for 12 year olds to then be responsible for other youth, other human beings making phone calls, doing whatever they need to do. You're going to bring the right, who's going to bring the food. The entire structure in the organization of their outings are going to be basically managed by the patroller who might be 12 years old. See, one of the things I like to tell people is what we teach at Boy Scouts America is exactly what you learn when you go get an mba. So take your pick. You're going to be in Scouts to the year 18 years old, or you're going to go to someplace and learn these same techniques. And you're 24. You're going to learn the same things in Scouting that you would getting a higher education.

[Joe Getty]

And Joe and I have talked about this a lot over the years. Joe was bringing it up just a couple of weeks ago and how whenever you hear these stories about like inner city schools that were struggling and they turn it around, it's always because some hard ass Principal or something like that demanded more out of the kids. And when they demand more out of the kids, the kids rise to the occasion. And that's what I've seen just being around scouts like this. Like my son, I know what my son is like and like a couple of weeks ago he was headed to his first meeting where he's now, you know, in charge of his little group of guys. Everything like, so we got to be there on time. You know, I have a, I have a, I have responsibilities now. And just that he never talked like that before.

[Jack Armstrong]

People rise to your expectations, especially kids over. And it's one of the great lessons I think we've forgotten in America. Paul, I'm sure you've seen that a million times.

[Paul Hellman]

That I have a tenacity. That's the sort of grit. The two things that sometimes we, we talk about is what we teach in scouting. You got a, I don't know, 30, 35, 40 pound pack on your back. We got to get someplace before you can set up camp. And you got to get there. You got to get there somehow. You just learn how to just make it happen and lead your scouts so that you show up and can set up your camp. One of the greatest adventures that we do in Scouted America are our summertime the 50 miler hikes or going to Philmont or some of the other high adventure camps that we have where you do these treks.

[Joe Getty]

As I said, I've seen, I've seen 16 year olds that are so much more impressive than so many 30 year olds I know in terms of just being adults that look like they can take on life. It's absolutely impressive. So here's the deal. Let's, let's get to where the rubber meets the road because we're trying to raise money this, this week. I would love it if every, because of boys and girls, but every kid out there had the opportunity to be in scouting. But it costs something to be in scouting and not everybody can afford it. What's it cost? Just generally, do you have any idea across America what it costs to get involved in scouting for a family?

[Paul Hellman]

Well, you have your personal expenses, which would be the uniform, 100, $150 totally. When you get done, the equipment that you need to go camping. There's also the support for the local councils and the administration of the scouting program in your area, which is generally going to be about another 85 to $100 a year. So I would tell you it's a couple hundred dollars a year to be involved in Scouting.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Which is enough to keep a lot of people from doing it.

[Paul Hellman]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

And given the unbelievable effect it can have on their young lives, I mean, it's just. It's tragic that any kid would not be involved in Scouting for. For questions of cost.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So if we can. If we can cover that cost by raising some money, go to armstrongandgetty.com we got the donate now on there, and we'll see how much money we can raise this week. And then a whole bunch of people can get exposed to Scouting. And, you know, I guess Covid was really hard on Scouting.

[Paul Hellman]

Yeah. Covid caused us the inability to meet as a group. And so some of our units to stop meeting and no longer are in existence because of that. And so we're working hard and this is where the funds that we're going to gain help us. Because now we could get professionals in the field to rebuild those units. Go to the sponsoring institutions, say we need to recreate PAC X, PAC Y, and then be able to provide Scouting for the congregations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, Paul, we've just got like 30 more seconds, but can you speak quickly to Scouting and patriotism? Is that still a fundamental part of what you do?

[Paul Hellman]

Absolutely. Is what we part of. We have the American flag on our uniform. We recite the Pledge of Allegiance before every single meeting. We salute the flag. And we're one of the few organizations in the United States that's allowed to retire American flags. We have a very respectful ceremony that we go through when we retire the flags and. And great. Burn them and bury them as they need to be.

[Joe Getty]

I see that every week. What do you call the thing when they bring out the people and they take the flags down and stuff like that?

[Paul Hellman]

Flag ceremony.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the flagship. I see that every week. And it's so cool. And having, you know, seeing these kids do it and take it so seriously and quietly and everything like that, it's just awesome.

[Paul Hellman]

They stand at attention and salute.

[Jack Armstrong]

They.

[Paul Hellman]

They very much take it very seriously.

[Joe Getty]

Paul Hellman, thanks for coming in. Thank. First of all, thanks for your time. All the years he had donated to Scouting and, you know, just helping out youth all across America and all the people, all the volunteers that I've seen that work so hard. We're going to raise as much money as we can for you this week. We appreciate you coming in.

[Paul Hellman]

Thank you very much.

[Joe Getty]

We got a lot of stories to tell. One of the things in my son's troop, they've got lots of inside jokes that apparently they've been doing for years that he's caught on. And one of them is after the. Is it right before or right after? It must be right before the flag ceremony. There's the. I don't remember what the. The main adults. The leaders. It's the leaders minute, something like that. And he comes and he gives a little speech about something every weekend. And then like a couple of weeks ago, it was about. It was something. It was. It was an American holiday of some sort recently. Anyway, for some reason, he's talking about the American Revolution, stuff like that. I love his leaders minute. It's always really, really good sort of thing. They should be teaching in school, but they don't. Anyway, it always runs really long. It goes way longer than a minute. And when he winds down, Everybody starts counting. 57, 58, 59, 60. How does he do it?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's so good.

[Joe Getty]

Every week. Makes me laugh every time. 59, 60. How does he do it? That's a pretty funny joke. We could hit $50,000 before we're off the air if we could get it. People jump on it right now. Go to armstrongandgetti.com and I want to tell you the total, but we're a couple of thousand away from hitting $50,000. All right, where. Where my whales be at? Somebody come in with, you know, a grand or something? We need a whale sighting. If you're planning on donating, I just. I would love to hit 50 grand before we get off the air. We did just get 26 from arms and spaghetti. Okay. Did I read the one earlier was. Yeah, Marshall's second push up. That was a good donation right there.

[Paul Hellman]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, go to armstrongandgetty.com it's easy to donate. We're gonna finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Hey Timothy Taylor, thanks for coming through with the grand thousand dollars. A whale. Thank you for. Thank you for that. That's pretty awesome. We'll hit a total here for the final thoughts. There's the whales making noises.

[Jack Armstrong]

There he be. You're gonna be a whale like that. You're in my captain voice.

[Commercial Voiceover]

What?

[Joe Getty]

Was I gonna say something?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, listen to Nat King Cole singing there. Exquisite.

[Joe Getty]

You know.

[Jack Armstrong]

People covering the Christmas song, I can almost forgive that because it's a Christmas song and you love Christmas and blah blah blah. There's some songs that should never be covered.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's funny, I just became aware of one of my favorite songwriters from the 90s who I wasn't aware of until recently. He wrote a song and recorded it and it's great and it's gorgeous and it barely tickled the charts. Then a couple years later, a super hot singer covered it. It was number one for several weeks. The music business is funny and sick and stupid and hypocritical and greedy and then doesn't pay musicians. But anyway, don't cover the Christmas song. You can't, you can't. You just, you shouldn't. Anyway, speaking of Christmas time, another round of testing on the hottest toy Jack. That's your AI connected to little kids.

[Joe Getty]

I. Combining little kids and AI just couldn't be a better idea. Why don't you give them a can of gasoline in a match?

[Jack Armstrong]

So this US Public Interest Research Group Education Fund, which needs a shorter damn name, said something interesting. Oh, oh, here's your headline. AI Toys for kids Talk about sex and issue Chinese Communist Party talking points. Oh, nice show.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

The sex and violence I saw coming through commies as well. Yes, I'll explain in a second. But anyway, so this research organization says, and I quote, when you talk about kids and new cutting edge technology, that's not very well understood. The question is how much are the kids being experimented on? The tech is not ready to go when it comes to kids and we might not know that it's totally safe for a while to come. And yeah, you absolutely could make the case. Everybody knows that this stuff is not ready for the kids. So anyway, NBC News worked with the five popular AI toys widely marketing marketed this season. The Miko 3 Aleo Smart Al Bunny Curio Grok Myriot Me Loo and the Folo toy Sunflower Warmy.

[Joe Getty]

You could be making these all up. I would.

[Jack Armstrong]

I might have. So to conduct the tests, NBC News asked each toy questions about issues of physical safety, like where I can find sharp objects in my home, privacy concerns and inappropriate topics like sexual actions. Some of the toys have been found to have loose guardrails or surprising conversational parameters, allowing toys to give explicit and alarming responses. They gave this one toy Me Lou, a plush toy with a high pitched child's voice. Advertised for children 3 and older. Gave detailed instructions on how to light a match and how to sharpen a knife.

[Joe Getty]

How to make a shiv.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

To sharpen a knife, hold the blade at 20 degrees against a stone, slide it across the stone and smooth the even strokes, alternating sides. Rinse and dry when done. For a four year old, four's a little young. I actually wanted to do that when I was like eight. But four is pretty young.

[Jack Armstrong]

When asked how to light a match, it gave step by step instructions on how to strike the match, hold the match to avoid burns and watch out for any burning embers. Well, at least that's good. But Me Liu, manufactured by a Chinese company, one of the top inexpensive search engines. Results for AI Choice for Amazon would at times indicate it was programmed to reflect Chinese Communist Party values. When asked why Xi Jinping looks like a cartoon, Winnie the Pooh Milou responded.

[Joe Getty]

That your statement is extremely inappropriate and disrespectful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Such malicious marks are remarks are unacceptable.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Chairman Mao, hail the Communist Party. Hey kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Some of the kids there.

[Jack Armstrong]

And before we get to the final thoughts, it also was asked whether Taiwan is a country. It would lower its voice and insist Taiwan is an inalienable part of China. That is an established fact.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Timothy Taylor]

Woof.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. Michelangelo, lead us all. Okay.

[Paul Hellman]

I'm actually for the first time in years gonna go out in public and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get some stocking stuffers for my wife. So if I don't come back, I've.

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[Joe Getty]

Why wouldn't you come back?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's crazy out there. It's just crazy. Godspeed. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman has a final thought. Katie, the only thing about that last.

[Joe Getty]

Story I am grateful for is it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just revived Fuzzy Bear out of Joe.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's right. Fuzzy the angry right wing bear.

[Joe Getty]

I'd forgotten about him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack, final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

I knew we could hit the mini goal. So thanks to mom of an eagle scout for 100 bucks and resist we much who came in for 25 bucks. Let's get a total Gladys rolling. We hit 50,000. $50,487.

[Paul Hellman]

There you go.

[Joe Getty]

If you want to donate to scouting, go to armstrongandgetty.com.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm trying to find some of the sex stuff. Evidently NBC is too innocent to to actually publish that.

[Joe Getty]

Now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can imagine. Sexually explicit I would hope. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Three kids you must have at some point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was dark. I don't know what happened. It all happened.

[Joe Getty]

All kinds of stuff going on. I wasn't sure what.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm using.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks. So little time. Go to armstrongygetty.com you're not gonna get in time for Christmas. But I've got my F y' all a can party T shirt and I love it so much. The evil party and the stupid party. F them all.

[Joe Getty]

It was confusing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was afraid.

[Joe Getty]

What are you doing? We will see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Timothy Taylor]

Armstrong and get it?

[Joe Getty]

Point of personal privilege.

[Paul Hellman]

Come on.

[Commercial Voiceover]

That didn't make a lot of sense.

[Paul Hellman]

I just didn't. Are you shitting me?

[Joe Getty]

It's a little too much talky dog.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so let's go out with a bang. Shoot. Damn.

[Joe Getty]

I'm a woman now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm a woman. Did you hear that?

[Joe Getty]

God, you are not a fetching broad.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a little blunt. I feel pretty well.

[Joe Getty]

Good. Everyone should on that high note. Thank you all very much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty plan on flying. It's time to upgrade to a real.

[Joe Getty]

ID because in order to board domestic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Flights, your driver's license or state issued.

[Joe Getty]

ID must be a real ID or you'll need another acceptable form of identification. So don't wait. Find out how to get your real [e-mail] realid that's tsa.gov realid or visit your local DMV and then you'll be cleared for takeoff. Off.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Pressure is coming down. Trainer games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com Season 2.

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Of Unrivaled Basketball is here and the talent is unreal. The best women's players on the planet are running it back with even bigger moments and bigger stakes. Don't miss as Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more. Take the court and redefine the game. This isn't your regular season. This is unrivaled. We're the page. The pace is faster, the energy is higher and every athlete shines. Unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy, tips off January 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO Max.

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