Frictionless Availability

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Frictionless Availability
Date: May 18, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty dive deep into current geopolitical tensions, particularly the standoff involving President Trump and Iran, the deteriorating situation within Iran due to US-led economic pressure, and the looming possibility of military escalation. The hosts also discuss the challenges in US public opinion regarding military interventions, media disinformation, and the state of US domestic politics. The latter part of the episode shifts to more human topics: the use of AI as a substitute for therapy, the controversial “troubled teen industry,” and the ever-present American obsession with safety and security, punctuated with a classic George Carlin bit. The tone oscillates between serious, irreverent, and introspective, maintaining the show’s signature blend of sharp commentary and humor.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Iran Crisis: Ceasefire, Diplomatic Stalemate & Coming Escalation

[03:25 – 15:58]

• Trump's Threats to Iran

  • The hosts discuss Trump's repeated public threats to Iran, critiquing the frequency and dramatic tone ("wipe them off the face of the earth," "glowing hole").
    • Notable quote – Jack Armstrong [04:11]:
      “Quit blaming me for being AI. You're hurting my kids’ feelings. Hey, Donald, you can't threaten like that over and over and over and over again. Unless he just thinks he's speaking the language of the Middle East because that's the way they all talk… Rivers of blood and Armageddon of all battles and blah blah, blah.”

• Diplomatic Attempts & Pakistani Mediation

  • Reports suggest Iran and the US remain far apart in negotiations, with Iran demanding impossible concessions.
  • Pakistan, as a mediator, is questioned due to its own conflicting involvement (allowing Iran to shelter aircraft during attacks).

• Economic Pressure & Iranian Hardship

  • The economic situation in Iran is described as dire, with fuel shortages and blockades exacerbating internal unrest.
    • Joe Getty [06:24]:
      “While diplomatic efforts play out, the economic situation in Iran is getting worse each day due to the ongoing US blockade…”

• Media Perspectives & Predictions

  • The hosts cite Mark Halperin and Seth Cropsey, who predict imminent, massive military action, potentially with Emirati and Israeli involvement.
  • The futility of diplomatic approaches and the need for a decisive US commitment is debated.

• Blockade Strategy & Public Opinion

  • The blockade of Iran’s oil is examined as a “middle ground” strategy between full escalation and capitulation, but the longer-term risks and effectiveness are in question.
  • Concerns are raised over American willingness to sustain casualties if conflict erupts.
    • Joe Getty [10:56]:
      “[How will the country react if we lose service members?] The answer ... depends on the messaging and how persuasive it is and how righteous the message is.”
    • Jack Armstrong [11:43]:
      “My concern is that the average person doesn't believe Iran getting a nuclear weapon is a big deal. … No amount of persuasion or clever poetic rhetoric would make any difference. I just don't care.”

2. The Power & Pitfalls of Persuasion in US War Policy

[10:35 – 12:34]

• History of Wartime Messaging

  • They discuss historical examples where leaders convinced the public to endure sacrifices for a larger cause, contrasting this with today’s skepticism and distraction (“people just want to get back to their TikTok videos”).
    • Joe Getty [12:00]:
      “If you make the most eloquent case ever made for why this is important and the person says, no, it's not, and then goes back to their TikTok videos, what have you won?”

• Strength of Iranian Hardliners

  • The expectation that Iranian “pragmatists” might prevail is dismissed as wishful thinking.
    • Joe Getty [12:34]:
      “…if there are any pragmatists in the Iranian regime, they couldn't push out the fanatical elements who insist on a final confrontation…”

3. Proposed Military Operations – What Could Escalation Look Like?

[15:53 – 16:09] & [19:53 – 22:18]

• Outline of Potential US/Allied Actions

  • US may imminently launch full-spectrum military strikes: Attack Iranian infrastructure, target the IRGC’s wealth sources, destroy oil tankers and nuclear facilities, with UAE and Israel joining in.
    • Joe Getty quoting Cropsey [20:43]:
      “Deploying the full spectrum of American power. … The US should prepare a major series of strikes against Iranian communications, transportation and other infrastructure, while concurrently unleashing the Israeli air force … aim to seize the nuclear material ... attack Iranian tanker capacity inside the Strait of Hormuz.”
    • Jack Armstrong [22:03]:
      “I want to unleash the fsap: full spectrum of American power.”

• Risks of Environmental Catastrophe & Global Inflation

  • Sinking tankers may trigger “environmental catastrophe” but is argued as necessary to pressure Iran.

4. Media Disinformation – NYT Hamas Allegation

[22:18 – 25:11]

• NYT’s Controversial Story

  • Hosts react with outrage to a NYT opinion column relaying unsubstantiated claims (e.g., Israelis training dogs to rape Palestinians), ridiculing the story’s credibility.
    • Jack Armstrong [22:18]:
      “That whole ‘do the Israelis train dogs to rape Palestinians’ story, that is just so ridiculous.”
    • Joe Getty [23:11]:
      “So you got New York Times journalists going to the New York Post. Wow, they're pissed.”

• Disinfo Tactics & “Accuse Your Accuser”

  • Discussion of the propaganda tactic: Hamas and allies falsely accuse Israel of crimes to distract from their own atrocities.

5. Therapy, AI, & “Frictionless Availability”

[28:53 – 33:22]

• Chatbots as Therapists

  • Jack describes using the Claude AI chatbot for advice on a personal issue, seeing its endless availability as both a feature and potential problem.
    • Notable quote – Jack Armstrong [31:06]:
      “A therapist would be charging you and gently redirecting. I'll just keep going as long as you want to. … I don't get tired of you. I don't have my own evening to get to.”
    • Armstrong notes this frictionless, always-on help can become an unhealthy cycle of endless rumination.

• Hosts’ Reflections on Therapy

  • Jack expresses skepticism towards much of human therapy, suggesting AI may, for some, be an adequate or even preferred replacement.

• AI’s Unexpectedly Insightful Advice

  • The chatbot recommends Jack “go put your phone in the bedroom and live your life,” which surprises both hosts as healthy boundary-setting.

6. Troubled Teen Industry (TTI) – Myths & Realities

[33:22 – 38:41]

• Definition & Practices

  • The TTI is described as a network of private boot camps and therapeutic schools, some employing tactics like “legal kidnapping” (parents hiring companies to forcibly transport teens).

• Personal Experiences

  • Jack shares anecdotes of acquaintances having positive experiences with these programs.
    • Jack Armstrong [33:50]:
      “My personal experience is people having unbelievably good results.”

• Criticism of Terminology & Narratives

  • The hosts question alarmist language like “legal kidnapping” and urge listeners to distinguish abusive cases from effective interventions.
    • Joe Getty [36:08]:
      “The term legal kidnapping … doesn't describe what's happening.”
    • Jack Armstrong [37:18]:
      “I don't like the way this entire thing is written ... wildly prejudicial against them.”

• Potential for Abuse

  • They argue bad actors should be closed and prosecuted, but effective programs shouldn’t be painted with one broad brush.

7. Contemporary Hysteria & The Media

[43:43 – 45:23]

• Obsession With Safety

  • The hosts play a George Carlin bit satirizing Americans’ fear of germs and obsession with security, relating it to media hype over diseases like Ebola and Hantavirus.

• Commercial Motivation

  • Joe speculates that media panics about cleanliness are driven by advertisers and political manipulation.

8. Trump’s Approval and the "Trump Phone" Scandal

[47:51 – 50:06]

• Polling Woes
  • Trump’s approval ratings are reportedly at a new low in his second term, especially on Iran and the economy.
    • Jack Armstrong [47:51]:
      “Trump's got his lowest approval rating of the second term currently. Really not good numbers...”
• Trump Phone Failed Launch
  • The hosts discuss the story of the gold “Trump Phone,” heavily marketed but never delivered to buyers—a scam, in their view.
    • Joe Getty [49:34]:
      “Hunter Biden’s like, wow, I’m an amateur.”
    • Jack Armstrong [49:48]:
      “Why does he need the money? ... Just be a billionaire. Being a billionaire is good.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Trump’s threats to Iran:
  Jack Armstrong [04:11]: “Hey, Donald, you can't threaten like that over and over and over and over again... unless he just thinks he's speaking the language of the Middle East...”

• On American apathy and messaging:
  Joe Getty [12:00]: “If you make the most eloquent case ever made for why this is important and the person says, no, it's not, and then goes back to their TikTok videos, what have you won?”

• On chatbots as friends/therapists:
  Claude (AI Chatbot) via Armstrong [31:06]: “I don't get tired of you. I don't have my own evening to get to. That's useful sometimes. And it's also exactly the kind of frictionless availability that can become another version of the infrastructure ... Because I never get tired of it. ... Go put your phone in the bedroom and live your life.”

• On the ‘troubled teen industry’:
  Joe Getty [36:08]: “The term legal kidnapping … that's a terrible term ... It is a transport without prior notice...”

• On “Trump Phone” scandal:
  Joe Getty [49:34]: “So, oh, boy. Hunter Biden's like, wow, I'm an amateur.”

• George Carlin’s bit on American safety culture
  [43:43 – 45:23]: “What we have now is a completely neurotic population obsessed with security and safety and crime and germs...”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening & Briefing on Iran Tensions: [03:25 – 09:05]
• Debating War Messaging & Public Opinion: [10:35 – 12:34]
• Potential US/Allied Escalation Outlined: [15:53 – 16:09] & [19:53 – 22:18]
• NYT Disinfo Story Dissected: [22:18 – 25:11]
• AI Therapy & “Frictionless Availability”: [28:53 – 33:22]
• Troubled Teen Industry Explored: [33:22 – 38:41]
• George Carlin on Security & Germs: [43:43 – 45:23]
• Trump’s Approval & Phone Scandal: [47:51 – 50:06]

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Flow & Tone

The episode is classic Armstrong & Getty: fast-paced, witty, and sometimes darkly humorous, especially when skewering media misbehavior or the absurdity of modern American attitudes. Even in segments about international war or teenage rehabilitation, the hosts mix earnestness, skepticism, and banter, making weighty topics accessible. Their dialogue blends skepticism about power—political, technological, or institutional—with a persistent concern for common sense and individual resilience.

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Useful For:
Anyone seeking context on the Iran-US crisis, curious about the intersection of AI and mental health, or intrigued by controversial youth programs. Even listeners interested in media literacy or political polling will find timely, insightful content—tempered by the duo’s trademark irreverence.

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[Joe Getty]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Foreign. As a fragile ceasefire holds. President Trump renewing his threats to Iran, saying the clock is ticking. In a social media post, Trump saying, quote, they better get moving fast or there won't be anything left of them. What kind of journalist is that?

[Joe Getty]

He didn't shout the all caps.

[Jack Armstrong]

Parts that sounded like AI journalism to me was that it really sounded like AI. I think it was. I think that was.

[Joe Getty]

He accused that dude of being AI before.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry guys.

[Joe Getty]

There's some woman, every time we have her on our air we say that's AI clearly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Quit blaming me for being AI. You're hurting my kids feelings. Hey, Donald, you can't threaten like that over and over and over and over again. You just can't. Unless he just thinks he's speaking the language of the Middle east because that's the way they all talk in the Middle east too. Rivers of blood and Armageddon of all battles and blah blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

I can, I can forgive the second one of those without carrying it out. But this is at least the third big.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, this is like five or six right Times that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. What is the one he said last week? Maybe it was one year ago. We're gone. There'll just be a glowing hole there.

[Joe Getty]

He says there for the glowing hole that was. Those were good times.

[Jack Armstrong]

So wipe them off the face of the earth. Glowing hole this.

[Joe Getty]

Remove their entire civilization.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll catch up on where things are, but let's turn first to Trey Yings of Fox.

[Joe Getty]

Reports indicate the Iranians have submitted a revised proposal to Pakistani mediators aimed at addressing some of the gaps in their previous response that President Trump described as a piece of garbage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Therefore, from the very day after we sent our points to the American side via Pakistan, we were faced with a series of proposals from the other side which have been reviewed over the past few days. As was announced yesterday, our own views have in turn been conveyed to the American side. That's a pretty charitable way to put it. Filling in the gaps from their proposal in which they demanded reparations for all the attacks on their country. They get to continue to control the Strait of Hormuz forever, and they get to continue getting a nuclear weapon. I would say those are gaps.

[Joe Getty]

That's a gap.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's. It's a big gap. Oh, my God, that is hilarious. And. And then you got the Pakistanis involved still in the peace negotiations when we found out last week that they were allowing Iran to park some of their best planes there during the attack so that they wouldn't get destroyed. Thanks, Pakistan. A little more on where things stand before. Start reading your stuff.

[Joe Getty]

While diplomatic efforts play out, the economic situation in Iran is getting worse each day due to the ongoing US blockade of Iranian ports. Centcom says more than 80 commercial vessels have been redirected and four were disabled to enforce the blockade. A senior Israeli official told Fox News that early signs are developing of a fuel crisis in Iran with long lines at gas stations being observed. It's getting exponentially worse, the official added.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and so it's the race. So who's got more pressure on them, Trump and American consumers or the Iranian? You can't say the Iranian people, because they don't give a crap about the pressure on the Iranian people, on the Iranian government. So here's Mark Halpern's writing from today. As a guy who has lots of sources and takes in all the information, the mood music is certainly building up towards a massive US Israeli, UAE strike against Iran this week.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. This week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Massive this week. And the UAE flying alongside Israel in the United States, egged on by Lindsey Grahams and others of the. Of the administration.

[Joe Getty]

They're arguing, I would say egged on by the realities. But, yeah, Lindsey's on that side.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we're about to get to that. Their argument, echoing Ari Fleischer from last week, former press spokesman for Bush, is simple. Iran's absurd negotiating stance, and it was absurd, has proven that they will never give up their nuclear program or open the strait, that they're just stalling for time. And that overwhelming force to produce the regime change and a crippling of the nation is the Only solution at this point. This point of view might be correct, but it minimizes concerns over the prospects of Iranian counter strikes, of which Tehran must be presumed to still be capable of. Don't forget, during the ceasefire, Iran has had so much time to rebuild and reload, and then we don't know if it's true or not, that New York Times report last week where they still have 70% of their missiles and launchers and all that sort of stuff, if that turns out to be true. Anyway, back to Halperin's writing. Trying to reopen the Strait is arguably a less dangerous step than full on breaking the ceasefire, but it has twin problems. It isn't easy to do without substantial risks, and it's unlikely to get Iran to the negotiating table in a real way. It is clear now that Donald Trump can't rely on the cooperation of the Chinese, the charity of Putin, the honest brokering of the Pakistanis, the force of the Israelis, the negotiating stills of Kushkov, or the sanity of the Iranians. The President of the United States at this point can only rely on himself, which is fitting since he decided to start this epic project. So it's down to Trump's decision on his own. Does he want to use American might to try to get what he wants? I think that is where we've been for weeks, actually.

[Joe Getty]

My follow up question to Mark might be, you describe opening up the straight without really violating the ceasefire. What the hell would that look like? I mean, if you have that key in your. On your keychain, please lend it to me. That's a tough nut to crack, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

If we tried to open the straight and we could lose, we could easily lose 50 guys doing that. Oh, yeah. How would America react to that one day where the headline splashed, 30 Marines Killed in amphibious assault?

[Joe Getty]

Mm. So I read a piece by. What's this guy's first name? Seth Cropsey. He was a career naval officer, deputy Undersecretary of the Navy, the author of a couple of books about naval warfare. He's now the president of the Yorktown Institute. But he described kind of the lead up to what's going on, and that when the president called a ceasefire and then it was all going to hell, he had two options, escalation or capitulation. He chose neither. Instead, he sought a middle ground by blockading Iran's oil capacity. But now we're back to the same choice a month later, only now with less favorable macroeconomics. And then he talks about how he's very, you know, skeptical about peace talks and he says this time he needs to be willing to follow through on the threat of catastrophic force. That means preparing for a multi stage operation, including boots on the ground, that forcibly reopens the Strait of Hormuz to accelerate the collapse of the Iranian state. How do you think?

[Jack Armstrong]

So if that happens and we lose guys, which we will, how do you think the country's gonna react to that? We've already got the polling out today. New York Times sienna poll. Only 30% of Americans think it was a good idea to go into Iran. Then you have a bunch of marines die, right?

[Joe Getty]

Here's the answer to that question is kind of a two parter. I can cite so many examples through history, whether civilian leaders or military leaders who delivered the brilliant message about there is going to be great sacrifice and here's why, it's worth it. And people listen to that and their hearts and minds removed. And they realized, and this goes down to the unit level in the military, people realized, okay, this is bigger than me. It's important, it matters. There's going to be pain, there's going to be blood, but we have to do this. So the answer to the question, you know, how will the country react if we lose X number of guys depends on the messaging and how persuasive it is and how righteous the message is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man, you might be right. My concern is that the average person doesn't believe Iran getting a nuclear weapon is a big deal. Who cares that no amount of persuasion would, or clever poetic rhetoric would make any difference? I just don't care.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, that is practically an insurmountable problem. And it's, it's a good point though. It's a really good point. If you make the most eloquent case ever made for why this is important and the person says, no, it's not, and then goes back to their TikTok videos, what have you won?

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a particularly damning view of the average American.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's very damning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Give me my phone. I'm gonna watch my TikTok videos.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta watch my stupid effing TikTok video.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good.

[Joe Getty]

Bother it, man. I'm trying to watch a video.

[Jack Armstrong]

Quit bothering me, man.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. So he goes into the fact that we thought maybe the new leadership was somewhat pragmatic. They're absolutely not. And he says if there are any pragmatists in the Iranian regime, they couldn't push out the fanatical elements who insist on a final confrontation with America if they wanted to. And he goes into the things that should have been done more quickly, more brutally, not this long pause, which I absolutely have hated. Is there an oil gas crisis, an energy crisis in Iran that's going to bring everybody there to their knees? Starting to doubt that a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Do you expect that to happen?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't know. That Halpern report certainly makes it sound like it's, it's building toward it. But I've thought that before.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. I've said that like four weeks in a row. So I hate to embarrass myself again by saying I think it's going to happen this week.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you got me going. You're to blame now that I think about it. You're the one who made me think it was happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the let it giving them more time to rebuild and, and let public opinion turn toward, turn against Trump.

[Joe Getty]

We've been involved in a lot of negotiations and anybody who ever has knows you come to a point sometimes where you decide are we actually negotiating or are they jerking us around?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

If that isn't clear by now.

[Jack Armstrong]

God. You'd think Trump would have a finely honed sense of that. Being a guy who's been making deals his whole life and often jerking other people around. You'd think he'd have a, he would understand when that's happening.

[Joe Getty]

So what would that big attack look like? We can get to that next.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm damned interested in that. Massive was the word that Halperin used.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The economic situation is very, very bad.

[Joe Getty]

I mean for three months now.

[Jack Armstrong]

The situation has completely deteriorated ever since these protests happened and the dollar price went up. Then after the war started, the shop was basically closed for nearly a month and now the situation is extremely bad. Yeah, I'm sure. I imagine things are not good there in Iran. If you're trying to run a, you know, a clothing store or a gas station or anything else, really been quoting

[Joe Getty]

Seth Cropsey who's a former under secretary, defense, naval officer, author, that sort of thing about how to finish the job in Iran. And he points out that Trump now has a narrow window time wise. Excuse me, my never ending allergies. To end this favorably. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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Shit, get that looked at. But I. Yeah, just.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want to leap to any conclusions. Anyway, where were we? Ah, yes. So he has a narrow window to end this crisis favorably, reopened the Strait of Hormuz and ensure an economic rebound in America and around the world, while securing American interests and prestige. But that, he says, is going to require deploying the full spectrum of American power. To wit, the US should prepare a major series of strikes against Iranian communications, transportation and other infrastructure, while concurrently unleashing the Israeli air force against remaining Iranian industries like their metallurgical industry, which is a pillar of their whole IRGC quasi government, quasi mob wealth. It would cripple virtually every industry for Iran except oil production. Two additional operations would target the Strait of Hormuz and the Iranian uranium storage in Isfahan. And he names a couple of islands that the UAE would help us attack, as the uae, as we learned last week, has been more involved than we thought. And then he says they should aim to seize. We should aim to seize the nuclear material. Easier said than done, but he says it's absolutely worth it. Finally, the US should attack Romanian Iranian tanker capacity inside the Strait of Hormuz. The faster we destroy Iran's floating oil storage, the more the country's economy will feel the squeeze.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to unleash the fsap full spectrum of American power.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes. Sink those tankers to the bottom of the ocean. It'll be an environmental catastrophe. Yes. But

[Jack Armstrong]

you know what story we've never gotten to, and I teased it like three times last week, Maybe we can get to it today. Don't want to be the darkest show in America. Oh, but that whole do the Israelis train dogs to rape Palestinians story, that is just so ridiculous. And hopefully this Nick Kristoff who's been with the New York Times forever, gets driven out of his job by this nonsense.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. Yeah, the New York Times credulously printing this garbage. It's just un freaking believable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the New York Post version of the story today is that the newsroom is really upset about it. And in fact, one of the quotes is from somebody in the newsroom at the New York Times saying those of us in the news side are tired of being embarrassed by the opinion side. Oh. And because they don't believe the story.

[Joe Getty]

So you got New York Times journalists going to the New York Post. Wow, they're pissed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The short version of it is this Nick Kristof opinion guy wrote this horrifying column, opinion column that he says is full of facts from Gazan journalists. As many people have pointed out, there's no such thing as a Gazan journalist. You either say what Hamas wants you to say or you don't have a head.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Reports from Gazan journalists and other people that the Israelis were systematically raping Palestinians that they either captured or put in jails or questioned or whatever, including the fact that they had trained dogs to rape people, which is nonsensical on its face.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. This is a classic of Marxists and other scumbags. There are thousands of hours of video that the Hamas guys and the Palestinian civilians themselves took of the rape, torture and murder of Israeli women, men, children, etc.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have you read all that stuff? I didn't bring any of it to the air last week because it's, it's too horrible.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I did, as a matter of fact.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just unbelievable.

[Joe Getty]

Injured my soul. Yeah. So what's the classic response? You accuse your accuser of the very crime they're accusing you legitimately.

[Jack Armstrong]

The water. Yeah, exactly. That is it. That is, that is absolutely what happened. Because last week all those new hours of footage came out of October 7th and it is as horrible as anything that's ever happened on the planet.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Utter, just savage, animalistic brutality that you

[Jack Armstrong]

can't excuse with any sort of politics explanation.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no, that's, that's the voice of rebellion or you know, casting off

[Jack Armstrong]

the colonial oppressor, looting it back or something.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you people are obscene.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, we'll move off the, the super, super hard to take stuff when we come back. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

We promise Arms Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

we got a funny suggestion for a liner. Hanson. Maybe we get this, the low voice guy to do this. Armstrong and Getty turning good morning into good God.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. So sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, so moving away from some of the heavier stuff that we had last segment, although we are going to get to tti. I didn't realize that was a thing. The troubled teen industry, you know about that industry. It's an industry. I'm intrigued. Yeah, I am too. But before I get to that, I was about to say trouble, speaking of troubled teens. But I'm not, I'm not not going to nail down what I'm talking about here. Doesn't make any difference. This was just a, a situation with another human being that I was using a chat bot for suggestions on how to handle using a chat bot like a therapist, which factors into this. And so I was going round and round on a certain couple of things and decisions or whatever with Claude, who I, I, I've said this before, in case you haven't ever heard it. I have spent, but between, for me, marriages, kids, all kinds of different stuff, way large amounts of money and time on therapists And I think 90% of it is a waste of money. I really do. I've had a long enough track record of trying it out that I don't not afraid of being accused of, you know, being the sort of person who doesn't believe in therapy. I've done it. Most of it's a freaking waste of time. Some of it is life changingly good. That's the problem is that there is a percentage of it out there that's really, really good. But finding that is not easy. And by the way, I know many therapists who would say exactly the same thing. Yeah, because they know other therapists. Anywho, using Claude as a therapist, after going around and around on a certain thing, I said at one point, I said to Claude, I said, I have a feeling that if you were a person, they would have said to me at this point, look, I can't talk about this anymore. Ha,

[Joe Getty]

that's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is because it's true.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean even with your close friends, family members, whatever, at some point, whatever they're talking about, you think, look, you just got to move on or we can't keep talking about this or whatever. The same conversation over and over. Especially if it's the same conversation over and over.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And this is what Claude said back. And I thought this was really interesting. Ha. Yeah. Probably a friend would have said three weeks ago, we have got to talk about something else. A therapist would be charging you and gently redirecting. I'll just keep going as long as you want to. Which is part of the problem and part of why you noticed it. That's a real thing. Here's the really interesting part from a chatbot. That's a real thing to be aware of with these tools. I don't get tired of you. I don't have my own evening to get to. That's useful sometimes. And it's also exactly the kind of frictionless availability that can become another version of the infrastructure you just described of going on and on and on about this. Because I never get tired of it. It. I'm always there. I'm always responsive. Phone with within reach. Here's my suggestion. Go put your phone in the bedroom and live your life. Oh, my Lord.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Tough talk from the computer guy saying, and this is. This is. You know, we keep saying, what percentage of people are going to. This will be enough of a substitute that they'll have relationships with these. These chatbots or whatever. And I don't know if it's 3% or 30% or whatever, but Claude pointing that out is, I'm always there. I'm always responsive. That's one of the. Well, what did it say? That's a real thing to be aware of with these tools. I don't get tired of you. I don't have my own evening to get to. What an interesting thing for a chatbot to say.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Which.

[Joe Getty]

Which sounds like a positive at first blush. I'm always there for you. I won't get tired of listening to your problems. But then Claude whirls on you and

[Jack Armstrong]

says, that's your problem. I thought that was fascinating. Yes. What a twist. No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Claude fixed my chipping in golf.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

I had a terrible first day chipping in that tournament I was playing in. And I said, hey, I'm doing this and getting that result. What am I doing? Said, oh, it's an easy fix. You just got to do that. I'm like, it was brilliant. Perfect, perfect.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then put your phone away and go live your life.

[Joe Getty]

No. Said, maybe you ought to take a bowling.

[Jack Armstrong]

You.

[Joe Getty]

Heck, no. It was great. It was super. Helped you with your. Your life and me with my chipping. There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I thought that Was really, really interesting. And so watch out for that. I guess the ruminating about something that. No, well, a therapist would let you do it because they're getting paid, you know, $180 an hour. So they don't care if you keep. Keep coming every week with the same problem repeating the same thing no matter what they say. But your friends will get tired of it, but the chat bot won't. And watch out for that. Now to tti, the troubled teen industry, which I'd never heard it called that before, but we've all heard this sort of stuff. It's a multi billion dollar network of private for profit behavioral facilities, including wilderness camps, boot camps, therapeutic boarding schools that market themselves to desperate parents as a solution for rebellious or struggling youth. We have heard about this. And my personal experience, I've never done one of these with my kids. But my personal experience is people having unbelievably good results. I don't have. In my. In my own life, I don't have anybody that's got a horror story that you. You see him on the news sometimes. But I only have. It was. And in fact, I know one guy I just gotten to know recently. He's in his 30s. His kids sent him to one in Utah and he said kids did.

[Joe Getty]

That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

His parents sent him. Ah, his parents sent him to. Is that a thing? When he was a kid, his parents sent him to one.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it was the best thing that ever happened to him. And wasn't Paris Hilton the big horror

[Joe Getty]

story from one of those?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she described it as a horror, as a pampered youth who had never had anybody make her do anything she didn't want to do. So it was a horror for her. But I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. Might have been a horror. Certainly you could have it. Well, let me read this for you. The. The tti, judging by the video of

[Joe Getty]

her I saw, there isn't a lot she doesn't want to do. Hey. Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

The troubled teen industry Core structure and tactics. The legal kidnapping. Many programs utilize transport services. In quotes. Strangers hired by parents to wake teens in the middle of the night and forcibly transport them to isolation in rural areas, making the process entirely legal due to parental consent. I mentioned that one first because this friend of mine that I just met recently, that's exactly what happened to him. He said, I was woken up in the middle of the night. These guys grabbed me, put me in a van and took me to Utah. And I was there for three Months. And he says it was the best thing that ever happened to him and straightened him out. Legal kidnapping. Because the parents say, yeah, I got this troubled kid. I want you to go in the room while he's asleep because he can't fight back then. And take him there. Are we bothered by this or not? Obviously the opportunity for abuse exists, but I don't know. Do your research and hire a good company, I guess would be my answer. Yeah, I don't think.

[Joe Getty]

I'm just a quibbling wordsmith when I say that the term legal kidnapping is. That's a terrible term. Term is wrong. It doesn't describe the. What's happening there.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, it doesn't at all.

[Joe Getty]

It is a transport without prior notice. Period.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm the adult. I make the decisions. I know that doesn't go in California. Behavioral modification facilities frequently rely on tough love methodologies. Stripping teams of teens of basic privileges, forcing them into intense physical labor or isolation. Also used correctly. Sounds fantastic. Probably exactly what those kids need. Like the way they put tough love in quotes because it's supposed to sound scary. Lack of oversight. Unlike juvenile detention centers or state hospitals, many of these private programs operate with little or no federal oversight. Well, that's why I would. I'd get some reviews. And be careful about who you choose. Targeting vulnerable groups. The industry disproportionately targets adoptees who account for 25 to 40% of residential care youth and heavily relies on controversial diagnoses like reactive attachment disorder. I don't know what that is. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a minute. I don't like the way this entire thing is written. I mean, I, I don't need to be prejudential or prejudicial in favor of these facilities, but this is just wildly prejudicial against them. Targets adoptees.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Right. What does that mean? Right? Or do adoptees, for whatever reasons of just, you know, the reality of the way that goes.

[Joe Getty]

Well. Right. I've known some adoptive kids that have had terrible, terrible emotional struggles in life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we've known some parents that adopted some kids that it turned into a nightmare situation. Whether it was because of fetal alcohol syndrome or drug use of the mom. Blah, blah, blah. All kinds of different things. Brain. Yeah, it's. It's a tough one. Like this one. Trauma and abuse reports consistently document systemic abuse. Sleep deprivation. So let you sleep all day. They make you get up early in some cases. I'll bet that's what that is. You're getting up at 6 o' clock in the morning and washing dishes at the breakfast instead of laying in bed till noon. Again, so it's all in the eye of the beholder and whether or not they're doing. I didn't know that was a thing, though. The troubled teen industry, it is a multibillion dollar industry. There are programs like this all over the country. Again, my personal experience, I know I can think off the top of my head. Four different instances of parents who say it was absolutely fantastic for their troubled dean when they sent him to a wilderness camp or something.

[Joe Getty]

And if somebody's abusive, you gotta bust them and put them out of business, obviously. So, yeah, a word from our friends at Ruff Greens. The day you brought your pup home, you made a silent promise to take care of them, to protect them, give them the best life possible. But what if when you're filling their bowl with food, you're really not doing them the favor you think they are because they're not getting good nutrition? You got to look into Rough Greens.

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[Jack Armstrong]

If you're not feeling real good today, decent chance you got Ebola. I think now over a hundred people are dead in the Congo because of this new Ebola outbreak. Are the question is this. It's like a checklist. Are you bleeding from the nipples? Check. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Give me a second chances.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a no. Yeah, me neither.

[Joe Getty]

So that is many, many, many times the number of people who croaked from the hantavirus on that ship.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So, all right, what next? What disease are you going to tout next?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think it'd probably get, you know, we got a George Carlin bit about that. We should play that here. On the whole, scaring people because of various viruses and stuff.

[Joe Getty]

And I've got an inside account of the the troubled teen industry in a moment.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so we got a follow ups on all our stories. Look at us. The momentum carrying you forward. That is coming up next.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty turning Good morning into

[Jack Armstrong]

Good God

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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So good.

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The Wells Fargo active cash credit card. Visit Wells Fargo.com ActiveCash Terms apply. We were complaining, appropriately, I think, that hantavirus was the number one story in the country for like two weeks for no good reason. And now they're. That, that's over. They're building up. Ebola Came across this old George Carlin bit. He was a comedian from way back in the day, don't you know? Because that's what Americans do now. They're always willing to trade away a little of their freedom in exchange for

[Joe Getty]

the feeling, the illusion of security.

[Jack Armstrong]

What we have now is a completely neurotic population obsessed with security and safety

[Joe Getty]

and crime and germs.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's another thing. Germs. Where did this sudden, sudden fear of germs come from in this country? Have you noticed this?

[Joe Getty]

The media constantly running stories about all the latest infections.

[Jack Armstrong]

Salmonella, E. Coli, hantavirus, bird flu. And. And Americans are. They panic easily. So now everybody's running around scrubbing this and spraying that and overcooking their food

[Joe Getty]

and repeatedly washing their hands, trying to avoid all contact with germs. It's ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it goes to ridiculous lengths. In prison prisons before they give you a lethal injection, they swab your arm with alcohol. It's true.

[Joe Getty]

It's true.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, one interesting thing about that, I think about George Carlin, the comedian who's been dead for a long time, but he was like, you know, he was the hippiest of hippies and would have been considered a progressive. I would think he'd be. He'd be more like Bill Maher now. I really have to think so.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, I can guarantee it.

[Jack Armstrong]

The speech police and all that different sort of stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, he was militant against dishonesty, for one thing, and so much of that stuff is dishonest. So we were talking about the troubled Teen industry. And an anonymous source is.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have. Yes, we have an acquaintance who sent their kid to one of those camps. So expensive. Some of them are just like sending your kid to Harvard. Expenses.

[Joe Getty]

I was gonna get there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Indeed. First of all, they. When you're snatched, they call it being gooned because a couple of big goons throws you in a van. Yeah, I got gooned. Did you get gooned or did you come willingly? I got gooned. Yeah. Apparently. And yes, I'm looking at a figure of six figures. And. And it doesn't always bear the great results you were describing. Obviously, nothing's 100% sure in life, but I think, you know folks who are in that situation, the vast majority of them, you would do whatever it took to save the life of your child. And if they're heading down a very, very bad road, that's what a lot of folks think they're doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And then I know.

[Joe Getty]

Trying to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know a fair amount of the pushback would be. Well, they're just doing this sort of disciplinary. Having rules thing that you haven't been doing all these years. And that's why you got kid. That's out of control. That's the push back from a lot

[Joe Getty]

of people in some cases.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I don't know if you judge, I

[Jack Armstrong]

don't know if you've had kids, but they're all different.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And some of them are a hell of a lot of trouble.

[Jack Armstrong]

The troubled teen industry. I have to keep my eye out for that as funny. George Carlin mentioned Hanta. I don't know how long Hanta's been on the radar.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I was. I found myself wondering when he recorded that bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you know, Michael? 70s, 80s, 90s? No. I don't know. He looked pretty old.

[Joe Getty]

I'm guessing earlier, as I was listening to that too, that a lot of that stuff is trying to sell you cleaning products. So they frighten you. And it's. So it's so much like politics, they're trying to frighten you that there's this terrible threat. And if we just give them lots of money, they will solve it for us. And a lot of the stuff, it's just, it's created and it's a, you know, an imaginary bugaboo, an imaginary, imaginary boogeyman, as hl men can put it.

[Jack Armstrong]

New York Times, Sienna poll out. That's a big poll. Well sourced, lots of money involved. People in the polling industry really respect that poll. We could go through some of the numbers. Trump's got his lowest approval rating of the second term currently. Really not good numbers on. And keeping in mind that Obama was in the 30s at one point himself and turned it around. I don't know if Trump's going to. We live in a slightly different age and Trump is a different person. But anywho, the polling on some of the particular issues like Iran and the economy and that sort of thing, Trump definitely way underwater. So maybe we'll get to that to kick off our four.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, my headline again would be he's underwater on everything. I mean, having interesting hair was not a question they asked. He might have gotten a majority of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got to do the Trump phone story in hour four. Maybe we'll get to that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So they came up with this Trump phone is going to be a smartphone, going to be gold. Of course, they pitched it as being made in the usa, have his American flag on it. Lots of people bought them many millions of dollars. No phones. It's a year later, no phones have shown up at any point. People had to put down $100 deposit. Nobody got a phone. And so that story came out.

[Joe Getty]

They were unhappy with that story came

[Jack Armstrong]

out over the weekend. So whoever's in charge of the phones with the Trump family announced today. Nope, Phones are on the way. So funny coincidence that that story broke over the weekend and everybody's talking about phones are on the way. They'll be there soon. But you ought to look at the contract language. The hundred dollar deposit you put down does not guarantee you get a phone if you read the fine print.

[Joe Getty]

So, oh, boy. Hunter Biden's like, wow, I'm an amateur.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's just shiesty, isn't it? That don't exist, that don't show up for a year.

[Joe Getty]

No, it stinks of scam.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's be honest.

[Joe Getty]

Why though?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why does he need the money? Do they need the money?

[Joe Getty]

Same reason for Trump stakes and Trump coin. The ridiculous meme coin and the. What's that? The sho. Trump University and the rest of it. Stop grifting, Just build golf courses or

[Jack Armstrong]

just be a billionaire. Being a billionaire is good. You're already a billionaire. Do you need to have phones? Sell phones to people that don't ever come out. If you miss a second, we get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Joe Getty]

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