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Jay Shetty
Hey, it's Jay Shetty with On Purpose. My newest episode is out now with Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson
To be open to learning does mean, at least to some degree, always asking, what am I doing wrong? What do I have to give up? What do I have to transform? That could be very painful. There isn't anything better that you can do with failure, no matter how unjust, than to learn from.
Jay Shetty
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Unknown Host of Fiasco
It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here? Fiasco is a history podcast from the co creators of Slow Burn. In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics. The 2000 election, which resulted in a high stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. So if you're trying to make sense of the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty and now he.
Jordan Peterson
Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Any possibility that the President would end.
Jack Armstrong
Up pardoning his son?
Unknown Host of Fiasco
No.
Joe Getty
I just said no. I just answered, go ahead. Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is?
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
And have you ruled out a pardon for your son?
Jack Armstrong
Yes. I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter.
Jordan Peterson
I'm not gonna do anything.
Jack Armstrong
I said I abide by the jury decision. I will do that and I will not pardon.
Joe Getty
Does the President have any intention of pardoning him? We've been asked that question multiple times. Our answer stands, which is no.
Jack Armstrong
President Biden says that he's not gonna pardon his son. Hu. He going to ask Donald Trump to do that.
Joe Getty
I don't have anything else to share about that. I'm not going to get and go down a rabbit hole on this. I've been very clear, the President's been very clear when we've been asked this question. Well, and then Hunter Biden had December, which it now is circled on his calendar for quite some time because in the next couple of weeks he had two different cases in which he was going to be sentenced for things he was already found guilty of. And then he had been shuffled off to jail for one to however many years as a wealthy guy in his mid-50s who's not used to that sort of lifestyle. And his dad came through yesterday with a blanket pardon of the last 10 years which will keep him out of jail and any trouble from here on out. I was just looking at Hunter up on the tv. First of all, it's interesting that every news channel I've got leading with the Hunter Biden pardon story, so it's getting a lot of attention. And Hunter, a really good looking guy with good genetics in his background, has meth mouth. Full meth mouth. Now kids don't do the drug no matter what you look like. You're going to look like a meth head after you do it for a while. I learned from the Bob Woodward book that I almost finished over vacation that I either were reminded or never knew that Hunter was actually making crack. He learned how to make crack and was making crack resourceful. And he had accomplished what is known as a bell ringer cracks holy grail, which is the ultimate feeling you can get from doing crack. And, and he had, and then he chased that for years. Once you have a bell ringer, it's like your only thing you want is to get another bell ringer. But so that's, it's like when that.
Jack Armstrong
That the first time you brew up a batch of home brewed beer and it's just perfect. I'm. Way to go, Hunter. Way to hang in there until you like, you're like breaking bad. You burn down your rv, you get, you get exploded in the desert. But you hung in there. Gotta go, bud.
Joe Getty
Got himself a bell ringer. But doesn't matter. Whatever he did wrong around not paying any taxes as a rich guy, the.
Jack Armstrong
Rich need to pay their fair share.
Joe Getty
Unless their name's under Biden. Uh, taxes, guns, whatever else. Not registering as a foreign, all that sort of stuff. Don't have to worry about it anymore. Your dad pardoned you.
Jack Armstrong
Now the Bidens are above the law. Bingo. Just suck it up, America. So the President has issued a pardon. I'm going to read part of the official bit of it. For reasons that shall become obvious, A full and unconditional pardon for Robert Hunter Biden for those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024. Why that was yesterday. So presumably if he commits another crime today, they can go ahead and prosecute him. But yes, that is a decade long pardon for anything that ever comes up. I don't know about y'all. I haven't committed that many felonies that I would need that sort of blanket everything I did. Pardon for a decade, which dates from almost to the week. Right. That he took the gig as a director at Burisma in Ukraine and laundered millions of millions of dollars for the Biden family and 10%, of course, for the big guy.
Joe Getty
Wow. So pardon for things he is convicted of and anything he could be convicted of. That's handy.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. So the statement from the president today. I signed a pardon for my son, Hunter, from the day I took office. I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department's decision making, and I kept my word, even as I've watched my son being selectively and unfairly prosecuted. If you're. If you're, like, a comedian or you're doing a live show or something like that, you gotta pause for a second. It's called a laugh break. Right? Isn't that what it's called? You gotta pause for the laugh. And then I go on the idea that he was selectively and unfairly prosecuted without aggravating factors like use in a crime. Oh, this is about the gun charge. Multiple purchases or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser. People are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form. The gun charge is actually interesting from a Second Amendment point of view. We've discussed this a little bit. The idea that I can't buy a gun if I have used illegal drugs or am, quote, unquote, an addict. Who decides that? It's a fundamental right. Yeah.
Joe Getty
You don't have to start quartering troops because you were a drug addict at one point.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I mean, somebody could absolutely make the argument that I'm a Scotch addict. I don't think I am, but. And therefore I give up my Second Amendment rights. All right, so we'll table that motion and put it aside. Those who were late paying their taxes.
Joe Getty
Well, the problem with that. Not to interrupt. But I am. The problem with that is he's not out there making some argument for a change in the federal law.
Jack Armstrong
No, no, no, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. I just. I choose to focus on the other stuff because it is unimpeachable part of the expression from any direction on any level. The tax stuff is as solid as Gibraltar. Anyway, here's back to the mummified president's statement. Those who are late paying their taxes because of serious addictions, but paid them back subsequently with interest and penalties.
Joe Getty
If a weirdo rich guy you meet.
Jack Armstrong
At a party donor decides to pay off your bills for Some reason Democrat ass kickers, kisser and donor. Yes, he paid off Hunter's penalties anyway. They're typically given non criminal resolutions. It was clear that Hunter was treated differently. The charges in his case came about only after several of my political opponents in congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election. That was your own justice department who prosecuted the guy. Then a carefully negotiated plea deal agreed to by the Department of Justice unraveled in the courtroom, with a number of my political opponents in congress taking credit, blah, blah, blah. I would love to depart for a moment and talk about that unholy sweetheart plea deal that the judge said. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Am I reading this correctly? And then ask the prosecutors, have you ever cut a deal like this before? No. Have you ever even heard of a.
Joe Getty
Deal like this before?
Jack Armstrong
Well, I guess not, your honor. So Joe Biden is now claiming that that plea deal was, quote, carefully negotiated, agreed to by the Department of Justice. Oh my God. Had the plea deal held, he writes, it would have been a fair, reasonable resolution of Hunter's cases. No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's cases can. Any other conclusion that Hunter was singled out because he is my son. And that is wrong. There has been an effort to break Hunter, who's been five and a half years sober. Even in the face of unrelenting attacks and selective prosecution and trying to break Hunter, they've tried to break me. There's no reason to believe it will stop here. Enough is enough. For my entire career, I've followed a simple truth, a simple principle. Just tell the American people the truth. Excuse me for a moment. Full academic law school scholarship. Only one to get the scholarship. Graduated top of his class. Won the international moot court competition. Graduated with three degrees. His son Bo died in Iraq. He was a civil rights warrior. Been to Iraq 40 times. Appointed to the naval academy. Arrested with Nelson Mandela. I'm a truck driver. Spoke to the inventor of his insulin. His house burned down. Raised in a Puerto Rican community. Visited the Tree of life synagogue. Amtrak travels full professor at UPenn. Great grandpa was coal miner. Uncle was eaten by cannibals. Stats at congressional baseball game. He's a football star. He was shot at overseas. First to graduate college in his family. Arrested civil rights process. Number of Tristan, a number of meetings with Xi Jinping. Drunk driver killed his family. That is not even the full list of all the times Joe Biden has been caught lying like a rug to the American people.
Joe Getty
But back uncle was eaten by cannibals. It still gets a laugh out of me.
Jack Armstrong
Now I will tell you this list. This list also includes the battle with Corn Pop. I choose to believe that the story of Corn Pop was true because I enjoy it.
Joe Getty
It's like believing in Santa. You don't want it to not be true.
Jack Armstrong
Corn Pop was a bad dude. So anyway, I've always told the American people the truth and they'll be fair minded. Here's the truth. I believe in the justice system. But as I've wrestled with this, I also believe raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscarriage of justice. And once I made the decision this weekend. You made that decision the second your son was convicted, you lying mummy. There's no sense in delaying it further. I hope Americans will understand why a father and a president would come to this decision. That's because you're kid.
Joe Getty
Well, it's a heck of. Yeah. And again, most people I suppose, would do that. But that's a heck of a phrase. The whole I believe in the justice system, but it was corrupted by politics and came to an unfair verdict. Okay, then you don't believe in the justice system.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
So go ahead.
Jack Armstrong
I was just going to say Mike the lawyer from Chicago says, here's thought the Justice Department challenges the validity on the pardon on the grounds that the president lacks the mental capacity to understand.
Joe Getty
The meaning of the He's a kindly old man with a bad memory.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Exactly. I love it.
Joe Getty
The New York Times writes, of all people, Mr. Biden's pardon will make it harder for Democrats to defend the integrity of the Justice Department. Of course, because he just said they bend to political will sometimes and stand against Mr. Trump's unapologetic plans to use it for political purposes even as he seeks to install cash Patel, blah, blah, blah. We all know that story or we're going to get to it later. It would also be harder for Democrats to criticize Mr. Trump for his prolific use of the pardon power to absolve friends and allies, some of whom could have been witnesses against him in previous investigations.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
This does make it easier for Trump to get away with a iffy pardon. Obviously, even some supporters of Mr. Biden writes. The New York Times said his decision opened the door for Mr. Trump to further warp the system by pointing to his predecessor's own words and actions.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
So yeah, that's obviously true.
Jack Armstrong
Prosecutors said Hunter Biden evaded taxes by claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in false deductions, including the infamous writing off payments to and dancers sex club membership, his daughter's law school tuition, his business expenses, and again, the president's son filed tax papers after he had become sober.
Joe Getty
And the party of the rich don't pay their fair share. I mean, that's just too rich for me. I mean, I, yeah, like I'd have to scrape the frosting off of this cake. It's too rich. I need a cup of coffee to cut it. You're the party of the rich don't pay their fair share. But in this case, the rich was paying nothing. He was paying zero on his millions of dollars coming in. And his dad pardons him when he gets caught.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Right. Final note. Noah Rothman, National Review points out that when it comes to what he calls Hunter's sordid conduct, the voting public never believed the President, despite the administration's protests and its defense in Hunters, staggeringly large majorities believe the President's son was guilty of the charges against him. A majority said they thought the government had provided Hunter with a with more favorable treatment than a less well connected figure would receive. When a jury convicted Hunter of the charges against him, most voters, in spite of the attempt at the backdoor sweetheart deal, most voters approved of that outcome. They told pollsters they believed that the President had benefited from his son's indiscretions and that his interventions on his son's behalf were inappropriate.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Majorities of all voters on all of those side issues, Trump has got to.
Joe Getty
Be thinking, this is just awesome. This is awesome. So you just made it clear to everybody that this is a game of the Justice Department. Goes after people they want to bring down and then the president can pardon whoever they want. You, man, you just played right into his whole thing.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I am comforted by the notion that Hunter will be alive when all of the Biden money laundering family truths come out eventually, as I suspect they will.
Joe Getty
Boy, I think it's dead and gone. I hope you're right.
Jack Armstrong
No, I, I think it'll come out. In fact, I'm very, very confident of that. How much attention it will get. Given our fixation on the politics of the moment, maybe not that much.
Joe Getty
Happy Cyber Monday, everybody. We've got some interesting economic news coming out of Black Friday and a bunch of other stuff on the way.
Jack Armstrong
Stay here, Armstrong and Getty.
Jay Shetty
My latest episode is with Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson
To be open to learning does mean, at least to some degree, always asking, what am I doing wrong? What do I have to give up? What do I have to let go of? What do I have to transform? That can be very painful. There Isn't anything better that you can do with failure, no matter how unjust, than to learn from one of the.
Jack Armstrong
Most articulate men of our time, clinical.
Joe Getty
Psychologist turned culture warrior, Dr. Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson
The men who prefer short term mating opportunities communities are psychopathic, narcissistic, akubalian and sadistic. So one of the unintended consequences of the sexual revolution is that the freed up women have been delivered to the psychopathic men. Most people who have post Traumatic stress disorder don't have it because they were hurt. They have it because they encountered someone who wanted to hurt them.
Jay Shetty
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Unknown Host of Fiasco
In the aftermath of a transformative election like the one we just had, it's hard to read the news without asking yourself every five seconds, how did we get here? That's exactly what we're always trying to figure out on Fiasco, a history podcast from the co creators of Slow Burn. In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics. The 2000 election, which came down to a recount in Florida in ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. In many ways, it's the beginning of the story we're living through right now. So if you're trying to make sense of the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore and find out how a statistical tie in the Florida vote count put the nation into an unprecedented holding pattern during which American voters waited with bated breath to find out whether Al Gore or George W. Bush would be the next President of the United States. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Experts tell us that the steepest deals will likely be on Cyber Monday for things like electronics and apparel. And because the online sales for Black Friday were so strong, that bodes well for what could be another record breaking day on Cyber Monday as well.
Joe Getty
Yeah, but sometimes, as we know through the year, sometimes the money just gets moved around. You're going to spend a certain amount and you spend it on these days as opposed to closer to Christmas or whatever. So you got, you got to wait and see how it turns out.
Jack Armstrong
What percentage of the population do you believe still thinks the best deals are like Black Friday to today?
Joe Getty
I don't know. I've never thought that. It doesn't make any sense. So I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I never have thought about in my lived experience.
Joe Getty
No, I've just never thought about the so called Sales, unless it's a door buster to just get people in door, which you have to roll around on the floor at the Walmart and fight somebody for. And it's usually some piece of Chinese crap that you don't need any. But did you see some of the fight videos from around America? That was a good time. All we are an American tradition. People rolling around on the floor of their Walmart, beating on each other.
Jack Armstrong
No, it's silly me. I was standing, spending time with family and good friends.
Joe Getty
So I don't know if there are more of them than they used to be, but everybody's got a phone now, so there's, you know, wasn't that many years ago you could have one of those and it would disappear. Nobody would hear about it. Now, one fight, one Walmart anywhere in the country, there's going to be 20 different angles of it right as people scream and yell and bash their heads against the floor. It's just absolutely amazing. People are animals given the right circumstances. Speaking of Thanksgiving and sales and all that sort of stuff, I just saw this. I'm a doctor. This is a headline in the New York Post. I'm a doctor. What to do if you haven't pooped since Thanksgiving.
Jack Armstrong
Holy cow, that's in the paper today.
Joe Getty
What's that? Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, four days.
Jack Armstrong
Later, you gotta go for the big E. I mean, you gotta get things moving. That's. Wait, what Since Thanksgiving, what did you eat?
Joe Getty
I'm guessing you're pretty well, maybe you ate, I don't know. Did you bring us this Last week I saw the headline and move over kale. There's a new nutrient in town, beans. So I saw the headline and thought, oh yeah, Joe told us about the beans. So that's all your hip friends are gonna be talking about. Oh, you don't eat beans. You gotta eat beans. They do this and that, whatever, as they.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I brought the story and completely forgot about it.
Joe Getty
Every couple of years.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, beans.
Joe Getty
Every couple of years they come up with a new one. That's just. Here's, here's my tip as a guy who gained three and a half pounds over the last week. Don't eat so much pie and milkshakes and you'll be less likely to gain weight. That. That's what I've learned.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, my house is pilus. For the first time since last week, we. I finished off the pumpkin pie last night. Dang it.
Joe Getty
That's the advantage. That's possible. Or maybe you're dying. That's the advantage of host. As I went to my parents house and it was fabulous with the kids and my brother was there and stuff like that. But you know, no leftovers to bring home. So disappointing.
Jack Armstrong
Coming up, the Oxford University Press has named its phrase or word of the year and I actually think it's pretty good one plus, let's take a look at some of Trump's recent nominations or would be appointees in an unbiased, non mainstream media, hysterical way.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the new FBI director getting the most attention. So we'll talk about that.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Jay Shetty
My latest episode is with Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson
To be open to learning does mean, at least to some degree, always asking what am I doing wrong? What do I have to give up? What do I have to let go of? What do I have to transform? That can be very painful. There isn't anything better that you can do with failure, no matter how unjust, than to learn from one of the.
Jack Armstrong
Most articulate men of our time, clinical.
Joe Getty
Psychologists turned culture warriors, Dr. Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson
The men who prefer short term mating opportunities are psychopathic, narcissistic, acuvalian and sadistic. So one of the unintended consequences of the sexual revolution is that the freed up women have been delivered to the psychopathic men. Most people who have post traumatic stress disorder don't have it because they were hurt. They have it because they encountered someone who won to hurt them.
Jay Shetty
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Unknown Host of Fiasco
In the aftermath of a transformative election like the one we just had, it's hard to read the news without asking yourself every five seconds, how did we get here? That's exactly what we're always trying to figure out on Fiasco, a history podcast from the co creators of Slow Burn. In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics. The 2000 election, which came down to a recount in Florida and ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. In many ways, it's the beginning of the story we're living through right now. So if you're trying to make sense of the present moment, check out Fiasco Bush v. Gore and find out how a statistical tie in the Florida vote count put the nation into an unprecedented holding pattern during which American voters waited with bated breath. To find out whether Al Gore or George W. Bush would be the next president of the United States, listen on the iHeartRadio Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Joe Getty
President elect Donald Trump announcing he plans to nominate Cash Patel as the next director of the FBI, a longtime Trump ally. Patel rising to prominence as a congressional aide pushing back against the Russia investigation during Trump's first term. But Patel's nomination still needs to be approved by the Senate. Yeah, I guess you start with naming a new FBI director is not a thing really like it is having an Attorney general or a Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The FBI director has a 10 year term and if it's up, you pick somebody, but if it's not, you usually let it run its course. Which is part of the whole wanting the FBI to be separate from politics thing.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Worth noting that the precedent of letting the guy, you know, run out his term was broken by Trump the last time when he fired Comey, who needed to be fired, that one in favor of Chris Wray, who's currently in the game.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Firing Comey, perfectly justifiable. Ray is somebody Trump picked and is, is respected and liked by a fair number of people. But having bounced around a lot of social media over the last 48 hours, a lot of you, if you're a MAGA Trump person, are really excited about Cash Patel taking on the FBI and doing his thing. A couple of. Let me hit you with a positive thing before I get into some of the negatives that the mainstream media are putting out about Patel.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And if I might just jump in and say we are, I am speaking for myself, just in a finding out, appraising and weighing mode. A lot of the media and a lot of humanity immediately leaps to he's evil because Trump appointed him and here's why. Or he's the hero that America needs because Trump appointed him and here's why. And we're just going to take a look at it.
Joe Getty
No, I don't know if I'd ever heard the guy's name before. So I, I went in with no opinion. I still have no opinion at this point. I think Marks Halperin writes in his newsletter today there are definitely, and we'll get to some of the troubling stuff. There are definitely some troubling, questionable aspects of Patel's background that must get scrutiny and explanation. But approximately 75% of what Ruth Marcus and the New York Times reporters have seized on appears to be just nitpicky McCarthyite establishment opposition. Thought that was interesting.
Jack Armstrong
That doesn't shock me.
Joe Getty
No. Patel might not make it through the confirmation, but the rallying around him by both MAGA and most Republicans on the Hill is quite a bit different. Than it was with Matt Gaetz when he was named for attorney general. So there's much more rallying going on already now. Some of the things that Patel. Well, first we'll play this clip. This was a Patel on Steve Bannon's radio show. Whenever it was back in the day, he said this. We will go out and find the conspirators not just in government, but in the media. Yes, we're going to come after the.
Jack Armstrong
People in the media who lied about.
Joe Getty
American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections. We're going to come after you, whether.
Jack Armstrong
It'S criminally or civilly.
Joe Getty
We'll figure that out. But yeah, we're putting you all on notice. So he's going to go after people in the media who said things that were true, untrue, according to him, about the whole Russia hoax. And there was a lot. But that's not really a thing we do where we, you know, put you in jail.
Jack Armstrong
Egregious examples of deliberate slander and that sort of thing.
Joe Getty
Yeah, one more of these before I. What do I. What's that? When you caveat to this, I guess. Patel, I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal here. Patel, one of the FBI's sharpest attackers, said in a September interview on a conservative podcaster show, so this was just a couple of months ago, that if he were FBI director, he would shut down the FBI Hoover Building on day one and reopen it the next day as a museum of the deep state. He suggested that the bureau had become too powerful and that he would strip it of its intelligence gathering role and purge of it employees who refused to go along with Trump's agenda. My, my caveat would be that in the modern world, politicians and certainly just regular guests say all kinds of crazy ass that they don't mean or plan to follow through on whatsoever. But you definitely gotta ask the guy about that in a confirmation hearing, obviously. Is your plan, if your FBI director on day one, to close the building, lock the doors and turn it into a museum of the deep state the next day? Just confirming.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And again, the reason why hair isn't on fire in either direction for a lot of these nominees. And Patel reminds me a little bit of Tulsi Gabbard in some ways, which I'll explain in a minute. But to your point, because I was thinking the same thing in the modern world of media, and I just don't mean mainstream media here, but the alternative media, podcasts and the rest of it, as you move from one role to another to Another from. He was a top eight on the House, which one of the investigative committees looking into the Russia collusion hoax. He had a very specific role, and he measured his speech in specific ways. And then he was a private citizen and Trump campaign advisor and surrogate and went on these talk shows and he couched his phrases and his speaking as a guy in that role. If he became FBI director and, you know, I'm sure you're tracking with me, fine, but what I mean is he said stuff in a really entertaining. It'll cut through the clutter way then if he's sitting in the big chair. I'm sure as a very bright guy, he will readjust again. But I'm glad there's going to be a hearing. But, you know, somebody said something wild on a podcast, therefore, dot, dot, dot. Nah, sorry.
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, he'll have the opportunity there in the hearing in front of a bunch of senators, to come off as a, you know, a different sort of guy or not. And we'll get the chance to see that. Patel, who worked in Trump's first administration, according to the Washington Post, has publicly mused about targeting journalists and government officials, as we just heard. And he published a list of deep state names in a book last year called Government Gangsters. Promotional materials for the book included a quote from Trump, who called it a roadmap, highlighting every corrupt actor, and a blueprint to help us take back the White House and remove these gangsters from all of government. I'm fine with that. Appearing last night, last year in the war room. That's the clip we just played where he was on Steve Bannon's show and vowed to go and find the conspirators, not just in government, but in the media. We're gonna come after these people. We're going to come after you, either criminally or civilly. And we'll see if he stands by that. He has very little management or law enforcement experience. Getting back to what we were saying about Heath and Department of Fence, I don't know. Defense. I don't know what I think about that either.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the fact that administrative or law enforcement, to me, that's. That's a troubling, you know, aspect of this, because the FBI, for all of its sins, does incredibly important work protecting all of us from organized crime, from Chinese intelligence agents, from drug traffickers, from just all sorts of stuff.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And then I was trying to find. I've got it here somewhere, the quote from Bill Barr, the former attorney general, who people on the left think was a, you know, A toady of Trump's. When Cash Patel was put up to be the second in command at the FBI, Barr said, over my dead body, this guy is not going to be involved in the FBI. So that was Barr's feeling about Patel.
Jack Armstrong
Is he reformed or is he there to lay waste to it out of sheer meanness and retribution?
Joe Getty
Let's ask him, you know, that whole struck and his girlfriend and you know, we've got a backup plan and all that, all that stuff that came out that was all bad stuff has a lot of people that seem pretty politically motivated. The lying about information so you could get a warrant to spy on people and stuff. There's some bad stuff that happened, happened there over several years. Is that common? Is there a way to root that out? I would like to know that.
Jack Armstrong
And I could certainly defend the idea and I'm not defending Patel in particular because I'm not sold on him, but the idea that somebody might come in for a limited period of time and see as his brief his mandate to fix what's wrong, to really go after what had gotten twisted within the FBI. Maybe he's not long term leader. Maybe as it turns out he will just be the angel of change and reform and you know, opening the window and letting the sunshine disinfect and then he gives way to somebody who's a more, you know, conventional leader. That might actually be useful. But again, I make no prejudgment. I do, however, have a strong opinion on Omaha Steaks, our beloved sponsors. Nothing delivers comfort and joy quite like the unrivaled quality and taste of Omaha Steaks. Perfect gift. Give it to my dad every year. He loves it. Oh my gosh, the quality. And we're both steak snobs around here. Yeah, love the steaks.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, well, as Halpern wrote, the entire audience for all of this is the Republican senators. Because you just, you need 50 Republican senators to say he's okay with me. And so you lose four and you're done. So that's the whole ball game right there. How many Republican senators are going to say, no, I don't want this guy to be the FBI director? Does Trump fire Ray, which again is unprecedented except for Trump doing it one time to fire the FBI director because the way it looks, does Trump fire Ray before the hearing? And then so you've got an opening, you got to get somebody. Is that the way it works?
Jack Armstrong
Hmm. Interesting question. One more note for me from quoting the Wall Street Journal editorial board will paraphrasing. Anyway, they pointed out that and this, I mean this flows directly from Joe Biden. Absolutely. Perverting the Justice Department or clouding its reputation by his own Justice Department convicts his own lawless tax evading money laundering son and then he pardons the boy for all sins real and imagined over a 10 year period including money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent and the rest of it. And then claims in the pardon notice as we were discussing that. Well, I had to do this because the Justice Department is so corrupt and perverted. I mean so. Oh come on. But the idea that the Wall Street Journal is putting forth is the country doesn't need a GOP version of the worst of the excesses of the Democrat run Justice Department because it's bad for the country. And I know that the temptation among a lot of people is they hit us in the mouth, we got to hit them in the mouth Chicago way. But I think a better idea is let's do it right, show America how this is better and then win elections.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So a number of things. I followed the news a lot more than I probably should over vacation. I got a whole bunch of different tiny little things I'd like to get to including the.
Jack Armstrong
What is it? The word or phrase of the year.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, one definitely want to hear that. I love end of the year lists. I don't know why I've loved him since I was a kid. Also give my son a speech that you gave your son one time years ago. I probably used the same words over the break, which was handy. I already had it ready to go. I already have it in my pocket. Since you'd given it, I'm intrigued. Among other things. On the way.
Jack Armstrong
Stay here, Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
I was straight across from Taylor Swift at Arrowhead Stadium on Friday. I waved to her, but I don't know if she saw me or not.
Jack Armstrong
She's probably trying to play it cool, you know, the way celebrity Celebrities do. She's like, hey, there's Jack.
Joe Getty
Yeah, cool about it. I don't want Travis freezing. I'm not used to cold weather. I don't think that would have bothered me back in the day, but it was like 30 degrees. And then when the sun went down behind and it got cloudy, I mean, it was getting dark. It was cold in there.
Jack Armstrong
There's no question. As a former Chicago boy, you de. Acclimate to cold weather. Absolutely.
Joe Getty
Yeah. The other locals seem to be fine, but I was dying. So were my son.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Oof. So the good folks at Oxford University Press have, as is their won't declared their phrase or word of the year. It is a term that captures concerns. Well, that's.
Jordan Peterson
You're.
Jack Armstrong
You're giving away the punchline. The. The phrase that won this year is brain rot. Brain rot. It is a term that captures concerns about the impact of consuming excessive amounts of low quality online content, especially on social media.
Joe Getty
Well, I don't know if I've heard anybody use that, but that is a good phrase slash term that we should all be aware of because I know people who suffer from it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Now, granted, this is Oxford. They're in England. They don't even speak our language. Foreigners, but they. Apparently usage of the term saw an increase of 230% from 2023 to 2024. The phrase I tell you who doesn't have brain rot is my daughter, who is home with us all Thanksgiving week. But she was studying for 9, 10 hours a day for her law school finals. Her first law school finals. And we told her, look, we're on Team Delaney. We're going to do nothing to distract you. We're not going to guilt you into coming down to do this. You tell us how we can help. And boy, did she work like crazy. But anyway, turns out, actually going to law school is a lot more work than thinking about it, which is what I did. Anyway. Brain rot beat 5. Beat out five other phrases on the short list, which included demure. I have no idea why that would be on the list. It's. You know, it's kind of restrained in appearance or behavior. Not showing. Yes, Katie, this. This trans guy made demure take off on Tick Tock about a month ago.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
That's why that worked back.
Joe Getty
What did he do?
Jack Armstrong
He was sitting in his car and said, of course he was. Yeah, right. Where all videos are shot, apparently said, I'm mindful and demure, and was talking about how he puts his makeup on. And for whatever ungodly reason it Took off.
Joe Getty
Right. Gotcha. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
All right, sir. Dynamic pricing also made the short list, which.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good one.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And I found that out when I got the Baconator at Wendy's, and it was 12 bucks because we bought it during dinnertime.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. I still don't know what I think about. I mean, I know what I think about it intellectually, but whatever you want. All right. Yeah. And if I don't like it, I won't come anymore. But in my gut, pun intended. If I get there and they've jacked up the sandwich because this is the time of day when people are hungry, I'm like, dudes. Lore was on the list. Romantic, A genre of fiction combining elements of romantic fiction and fantasy, typically featuring themes of magic, the supernatural, or adventure alongside central romantic story.
Joe Getty
Something I would hate and run from as if I were on fire.
Jack Armstrong
You're not very well rounded. And finally, slop, which is art, writing, or other content generated using AI, shared and distributed online in an indiscriminate or intrusive way and characterized as being of low quality, inauthentic or inaccurate.
Joe Getty
Okay, Slop. How much time I got, Michael? Depends on if you keep eating like that.
Jack Armstrong
Well played. About two minutes.
Joe Getty
Okay. So I mentioned I gave my son a speech that you gave your son once. I'm trying to remember if you said this on the air or not. I hope you did.
Jack Armstrong
Was it the same speech Pete Hegseth's mother gave him?
Joe Getty
Oh, we have to do that an hour.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of nominees, I still want to talk about him and Tulsi Gabbard and a couple others.
Joe Getty
We have to do that in hour three. So I think you said thus in the air, but your. Your son had a certain hairstyle once, and then you talked to him about. You are fine with that. But. But, you know, you're portraying a certain sort of person, and you're going to get treated that way, and you just need to understand that. And. And I had that conversation with my son, as he always gets pulled out of line at the airport and the full frisk down, which I've never happened. He's had it happen, like, 10 times in his life. And he also talked about people following him around the stores. When he goes in the store, they follow him around. He's. I said, well, dude, if you're gonna. I won't explain his look, but he has a certain look because he thinks it looks cool.
Jack Armstrong
The Kim Jong Il look.
Joe Getty
If you're gonna go with that look, people are gonna keep an eye on you. They're gonna think you might be there to steal. Or maybe you're a terrorist and it's just. I mean, so you can do it if you want, but you're projecting a certain look. And so when people react to that look the way you're projecting, you can't blame them.
Jack Armstrong
Is the juice worth the squeeze? Is it worth the trouble? Whatever you're expressing that changes through a person's life. Life.
Joe Getty
Right, right, right, right, right. So I'll see how that lands suggest.
Jack Armstrong
To be more demure.
Joe Getty
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Het's mom weighed in on his whether or not he ought to be Secretary of Defense. That's odd. Stay tuned.
Jack Armstrong
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary – "Full Meth Mouth"
Release Date: December 2, 2024
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Sponsored by iHeartPodcasts
In the "Full Meth Mouth" episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into the controversial pardon of Hunter Biden by President Joe Biden. The discussion navigates through the legal implications, political ramifications, and societal perceptions surrounding this high-profile decision. Additionally, the episode explores the nomination of Cash Patel for FBI Director, analyzing its potential impact on the integrity of federal law enforcement.
The episode begins with Armstrong and Getty outlining Hunter Biden's legal challenges, including tax evasion and money laundering allegations. Hunter Biden faced multiple charges, with discussions focusing on his alleged misuse of funds and involvement in questionable business dealings.
Quote:
Joe Getty at [02:05]:
"Hunter, a really good looking guy with good genetics in his background, has meth mouth. Full meth mouth."
President Biden issued a comprehensive pardon for Hunter Biden, covering offenses from January 1, 2014, to December 1, 2024. The hosts scrutinize the scope and timing of the pardon, questioning its impact on ongoing and potential future legal actions against Hunter.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [05:18]:
"So the statement from the president today. I signed a pardon for my son Hunter from the day I took office..."
Armstrong and Getty express concern over the blanket nature of the pardon, arguing that it undermines the principle of accountability, especially for individuals with political connections. They highlight the perceived double standard in how justice is applied to the wealthy and influential.
Quotes:
Jack Armstrong at [04:03]:
"Rich need to pay their fair share."
Joe Getty at [05:24]:
"Pardon for things he is convicted of and anything he could be convicted of. That's handy."
Analysis:
The hosts argue that pardoning Hunter Biden not only questions the impartiality of the Justice Department but also fuels cynicism about political favoritism. They discuss how such actions can erode public trust in the legal system and exacerbate partisan divides.
Armstrong and Getty delve into how the pardon may affect the reputation of the Department of Justice (DoJ). They suggest that this move could be perceived as the administration undermining the DoJ’s independence, leading to skepticism about the department's impartiality.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [12:27]:
"Perverting the Justice Department or clouding its reputation by his own Justice Department convicts his own lawless tax evading money laundering son and then he pardons the boy for all sins real and imagined over a 10 year period..."
Referencing a National Review piece by Noah Rothman, the hosts cite polling data indicating that a majority of voters believe Hunter Biden received preferential treatment. This perception contributes to frustration and distrust among the electorate regarding political bias in legal proceedings.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [13:11]:
"A majority said they thought the government had provided Hunter with a more favorable treatment than a less well-connected figure would receive."
The episode shifts focus to President-elect Donald Trump's nomination of Cash Patel for FBI Director. The hosts examine Patel’s history, including his aggressive stance against the media and his book, Government Gangsters, which outlines his plans to purge perceived corruption within the government.
Quote:
Joe Getty at [25:09]:
"We will come after you, whether criminally or civilly."
Armstrong and Getty express apprehension about Patel’s suitability for the role, citing his lack of traditional law enforcement experience and his confrontational rhetoric. They question how his leadership style might influence the FBI's operations and public image.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [29:34]:
"The FBI, for all of its sins, does incredibly important work protecting all of us from organized crime, from Chinese intelligence agents, from drug traffickers, from just all sorts of stuff."
The hosts discuss the broader implications of Patel’s nomination, suggesting it could either lead to significant reforms or further politicization of the bureau. They highlight the importance of maintaining the FBI’s non-partisan stance to uphold national security and public trust.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [30:03]:
"Is he reformed or is he there to lay waste to it out of sheer meanness and retribution?"
Armstrong and Getty note the divided opinions among Republican senators regarding Patel’s nomination. While some express strong support, others urge caution, leading to a fragmented response that could affect the confirmation process.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [32:50]:
"Some of the things that Patel... has a lot of people that seem pretty politically motivated. The lying about information so you could get a warrant to spy on people and stuff."
The hosts anticipate intense media scrutiny and public debate over Patel’s qualifications and proposed policies. They emphasize the need for a thorough confirmation hearing to address these concerns and assess Patel's commitment to upholding the FBI’s integrity.
Quote:
Joe Getty at [25:33]:
"We're putting you all on notice. And we'll see if he stands by that."
In a lighter segment, Armstrong and Getty discuss Oxford University Press’s designation of "brain rot" as the word of the year. They explore its relevance in the context of excessive low-quality online content consumption and its impact on society.
Quote:
Jack Armstrong at [38:24]:
"The phrase that won this year is brain rot. It is a term that captures concerns about the impact of consuming excessive amounts of low quality online content, especially on social media."
Armstrong and Getty conclude the episode by reflecting on the intertwined nature of politics, justice, and public perception. They advocate for transparency and accountability in leadership roles to restore faith in governmental institutions and ensure equitable treatment under the law.
Final Quote:
Joe Getty at [34:49]:
"The country doesn't need a GOP version of the worst of the excesses of the Democrat run Justice Department because it's bad for the country."
The "Full Meth Mouth" episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand provides a critical examination of President Biden’s pardon of Hunter Biden and the contentious nomination of Cash Patel as FBI Director. Through incisive analysis and candid discussion, Armstrong and Getty highlight significant concerns about political favoritism, the integrity of the Justice Department, and the future of federal law enforcement leadership. This episode serves as a thought-provoking commentary on the current state of American politics and justice.
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