Get Ahold Of Your Panties!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "Get Ahold Of Your Panties!" Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty, Jack and Joe dive into some of the country’s hottest current events with their signature sharp banter and satirical tone. The main theme revolves around the Supreme Court’s oral arguments on presidential tariff powers—a highly anticipated and potentially transformative case. The episode also weaves in commentary on the looming government shutdown and its impact on air travel, political culture wars, tech frustrations, absurd news stories (including Japanese bear attacks), intra-party turmoil, and the cultural fabric of America. The tone is lively, opinionated, and decidedly irreverent.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Supreme Court Tariff Powers Case (00:44–13:40)

• Main Issue: The Supreme Court is considering the extent of presidential authority to impose tariffs. The oral arguments highlighted the constitutionality of delegating taxing power from Congress to the President, with pointed questions from several justices.
• Joe’s Take: Joe listened to almost the full two and a half hours of arguments, providing insights into the rarely transparent workings of the Court.
• Notable Quotes & Analysis:
  • Joe Getty: “It’s the road I did not travel. It’s like a super hardcore football fan listening to a conversation between Bill Belichick and another legendary coach.” (01:57)
  • Chief Justice Roberts’ view: concern that giving the president wide latitude to impose tariffs is a “major authority” not supported by a proper legal basis. (00:45)
  • Justice Gorsuch: “The power to reach into the pockets of the American people is just different. And it's been different since the founding and the navigation acts that were part of the spark of the American Revolution.” (07:06)
  • Joe: ongoing concern that “You can’t claw that [tariff] power back without a two thirds majority in both houses… once you grant a president that sort of power, ain’t no president of either party gonna give it back willingly… referred to as a one way ratchet.” (10:10)
• Character Takes on Justices:
  • Elena Kagan: “incredibly bright… a serious, serious legal mind. She’s just wrong.” (03:48)
  • Clarence Thomas: reputation for being silent is misinterpreted—Joe calls him “a serious, serious man with a very low voice.” (04:00)
  • Ketanji Brown Jackson: “Not a dope… looks at life through an emotionalistic, progressive lens… but she asked some really good questions.” (04:45)
  • Amy Coney Barrett: Jack teases, “Smart as a whip, cute as a button,” Joe clarifies, “in both intellect and demeanor, I find her comely, indeed.” (05:31, 08:12)
• Case Context & Implications:
  • The justices seem skeptical that national emergencies justify broad tariff powers, raising constitutional guardrails over taxation—a central Congressional power. How to “unring the bell” and fix past tariffs if the Court rules against the President remains an open, confusing question. (13:03–13:37)

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2. Government Shutdown & Massive Air Travel Disruptions (13:53–25:59; 19:01–24:58)

• Context: Looming government shutdown triggers the FAA to announce a 10% cut of flights at 40 major U.S. airports—potentially canceling 4,500 flights daily.
• Impact Analysis:
  • Major airports affected: Atlanta (Hartsfield), Denver International, Chicago (O’Hare), LAX, SFO, Oakland, Phoenix, and every other major city. (19:23–23:47)
  • “This is when the shutdown has reached the ‘Okay, that's enough’ point, I think, for everybody.” —Jack Armstrong (20:19)
  • Jack predicts intense public pressure as Thanksgiving nears, while Joe disputes commentary suggesting blame has to build: “My reaction was immediate and strong news. I don’t need it to happen for a few days before I realize what it means.” (20:39–20:51)
• Political Dynamics:
  • Democrats reconsidered reopening government after surprisingly good election results boosted their leverage, reversing “readiness to cave.” Trump said, “We lost because of the shutdown. We're getting blamed for the shutdown. That's why we lost. We need to end this.” (21:31–21:54)
  • Both parties waiting for the other to blink, and poor Republican messaging was harshly criticized: “The Republican Party is just bad at it.” —Joe (23:02)
  • Jack predicts a quick resolution: “I would be shocked if this doesn't get worked out in the next 48 hours.” (24:46–24:58)

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3. Political & Cultural Polarization (25:59–32:18)

• Neighborhood Drama: Jack relays a story from a liberal college town where neighbors freaked out over a MAGA-stickered truck in a driveway—amplifying cultural divides.
  • Jack: “What you do is you ignore somebody else's truck in somebody else's driveway.” (26:54)
  • Joe riffs: “Get hold of your panties, pull them in this direction, then that direction and that should unwad them.” (27:03)
  • “People on the right think the people on the left are wrong. People on the left think the people on the right are evil.” —Jack (27:13)
• Satire and Absurdity: They escalate the scenario with escalatingly ridiculous suggestions: “What are our options… set it on fire?” “Maybe we should close the schools.” “Report a pickup truck with a very hostile bumper sticker…” (29:58–30:46)

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4. News Roundup and Quick Hits

• Japanese Bear Attacks (14:44–16:11): Bear attacks in Japan’s north prompt military intervention. Joe jokes: “Japanese Bear Attack: the name of my new band. We're gonna tour with Toad the Wet Sprocket and Panic at the Disco.” (15:20–15:32)
• Tech Frustration & ‘Textastrian’ (17:54–18:53): Jack vents about confusing online bill payments, invents the word “textastrian” for that unique tech-frustrated feeling. “That feeling is my least favorite feeling.” (18:04)

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5. Intra-Conservative Fights & Drug Pricing (16:11–17:12)

• Heritage Foundation resignation over association with Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes stirs debate about policing political extremes.
  • Joe: “We police our crazies, unlike the left.” (16:39–16:48)
• Trump administration teases big announcement on slashing weight loss drug prices.
  • “Classic Trump… Nation of fat people who want their fat drugs cheaper.” —Jack (16:48)

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6. Cultural Commentary & Critique (34:26–37:20)

• Multiculturalism vs. “No American Culture”:
  • Joe responds to lefty podcast host Jennifer Welch’s assertion, “White people need to be taught this… There is no American culture except for multiculturalism.” (34:49–34:58)
  • Joe: “American political culture — free speech, entrepreneurialism, individual rights… has been so incredibly successful and popular around the world.” (35:59–36:16)
  • “How we do things around here is our culture… for this malignant ignoramus to claim that Americans have no culture except for multiculturalism. She's evil. Evil and ignorant.” (37:20)

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7. Political Extremism, Security, and “Sharia Law” (31:05–34:26)

• Montage of audio clips: lefty celebrations over Dick Cheney's death and the election of socialist/Islamist NY politicians.
  • “Sharia law starts today. Islamic Caliphate of New York starts today, baby.” —Supporter (31:33)
• Joe and Jack react in disbelief, noting the slippage between freewheeling speech online and dangerous ideologies.
• FBI thwarts planned ISIS attack on LGBTQ bars; Jack and Joe briefly praise law enforcement. (33:00)

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8. Lighthearted End Notes

• “Japanese Bear Attack” as a band name and logo. (37:22–37:42)
• Full moon stories and oddities to be discussed, teasing content for hour three. (37:31–38:00)

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On Supreme Court Arguments:
  “I love it. It’s the road I did not travel. It’s like a super hardcore football fan…” —Joe Getty (01:57)
• On Justice Kagan:
  “She is a serious, serious legal mind. She's just wrong.” —Joe Getty (03:48)
• On Elastic Tariff Powers:
  “You can't claw that power back without a two thirds majority... referred to as a one way ratchet.” —Joe Getty (10:12)
• On Tariff Rollback:
  "Do you get your money back or how does that all work?" —Jack Armstrong
  "Nobody knows." —Joe Getty (13:29–13:38)
• On Polarization:
  “People on the right think the people on the left are wrong. People on the left think the people on the right are evil.” —Jack Armstrong (27:13)
• On Government Dysfunction:
  "I'm just so discouraged by the state of our government." —Joe Getty (25:59)
• On American Culture:
  "How we do things around here is our culture." —Joe Getty (36:30)
• Satire on Neighborhood Culture Wars:
  “Get hold of your panties, pull them in this direction, then that direction and that should unwad them.” —Joe Getty (27:03)
• On Japanese Bear Attacks:
  “Japanese Bear Attack: the name of my new band.” —Joe Getty (15:20)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:44–13:40 — Supreme Court case on tariffs
• 13:53–25:59 — Shutdown & air travel chaos
• 14:44 — Japan bear attacks segment
• 17:54–18:53 — Tech frustration & “textastrian”
• 25:59–32:18 — Political polarization, culture wars
• 31:05–34:26 — Extremism, NYC, and ISIS foiled plot
• 34:26–37:20 — American culture & critique of the Left
• 37:22–38:00 — Band name riff and episode wrap-up

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This summary encapsulates the breadth and humor of Armstrong & Getty’s episode, retaining their lively banter and pointed commentary. Listeners (or readers) will walk away with a clear sense of the major news stories dissected, the justices’ personalities, cultural rifts explored, and a few satirical gems—no prior listening required.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio.

[Producer/Announcer]

Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Getty. The justification is being used for a power to impose tariffs on any product from any country for, in any amount, for any length of time. That seems like, I'm not suggesting it's not there, but it does seem like that's major authority. And the basis for the claim seems to be a misfit. That is Chief Justice Roberts during the oral arguments of the hotly anticipated tariffs case yesterday at the Supreme Court.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let me throw in the CNN headline is Trump threatens to cut flights at 40 airports. That's a slightly different take on what is probably the biggest story of the day. We will get to that. It's got to do with the government shutdown coming up in a little bit.

[Joe Getty]

I think the headline is CNN still exists and anybody watches it. Pile of garbage.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there are oral arguments yesterday around this giant, giant tariff decision and you listen to them. How many hours did you listen to do?

[Joe Getty]

Well, there were two and a half hours worth. And I've just got half an hour to go and. Wow, that's dedication. Yeah, I'm fascinated by this stuff. I love it. It's, it's the road I did not travel. It's like an, like a super hardcore football fan listening to a conversation between Bill Belichick and, you know, another legendary coach. So I just really enjoy it. But we've all heard the caveats, right? It's difficult to read the tea leaves of the oral arguments, blah, blah, blah. And the other thing I think a lot of people who aren't into this don't realize is that it's not like they flip open a binder and say, oh, it's the tariff thing. All right, let's hear the oral arguments. And then at the end of the oral arguments, they think, yeah, yeah, I'm sold. Like a, a trial, like a criminal trial might be. They've been looking at this stuff for months, reading all sorts of briefs from both sides and then amicus briefs, which means, you know, friends of the court saying, hey, we're on this side as a respected think tank and here's why. And their clerks have been working like lunatics for weeks, weeks and weeks studying this stuff. And what the oral arguments is, generally speaking, is the justices think, you know, I want to hear from the lawyers involved on this point because I'm a little fuzzy on this, or I want to make sure I've got this right because I'm going to lower the boom and I want to make sure my reasoning is sound so it doesn't tell you which way it's going to go. But it's not useless either.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, any, any. Before you get into the specifics of this case, any takeaways from the justices themselves? And in terms of level of talent, slash intelligence.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody stand out either direction?

[Joe Getty]

I will tell you this. Elena Kagan, with whom I disagree about everything, is incredibly bright.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I've heard people.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've heard people say that. And every time I hear her talk, I feel that way, too, too.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Like I say, I disagree with her on virtually everything. But I would be honored to have a conversation with her. She is a serious, serious legal mind. She's just wrong. The idea that Clarence Thomas doesn't belong to be there, doesn't belong there and is some sort of Uncle Tom and the fact that his silence through the years is an indication of something or other, nothing could be more wrong. Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

He.

[Joe Getty]

No, serious, serious man with a very low voice. Yeah. You know, Katanji Brown Jackson, the newest, youngest, and most blah, blah, blah of the justices, is not a dope.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, God, I would hope not.

[Joe Getty]

No, no. She's obviously very, very bright. And I'm not surprised after we had the story yesterday about the fact that she's decided that the decorum of the court and the dignity of the court, she's not going to be held back. She's going to speak her mind and tell her truth to the media or whatever, or bring really strong dissents where she really kind of grandstands. She's just. She looks at life through an emotionalistic, progressive lens and comes off a little bit that way on the bench. But she asked some really good questions anyway. And, you know, I could go on and on. I. I'm a huge Brett Kavanaugh fan and a huge Neil Gorsuch fan in particular.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm always. I don't take it in there as Much as you do. But that Amy Coney Barrett really like a.

[Joe Getty]

Smart as a whip, cute as a button.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got both the going, huh?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, boy. Anyway, Mr. Barrett, I tip my cap to you. Anyway, back to the actual testimony. And for what it's worth, I've read reams now on the oral arguments as well as listening to it. Every single headline is virtually the same. For instance, this is SCOTUS blog. Court appears dubious of Trump's tariffs. Whoops, that one's about Venezuela. That would not help us at all. In the Wall Street Journal, Trump's tough day at Supreme Court puts tariffs in jeopardy and similar no matter where you look. Here's Justice Gorsuch. It does seem to me, tell me if I'm wrong, that a really key part of the context here, if not the dispositive one for you, is the constitutional assignment of the taxing power to Congress. The power to reach into the pockets of the American people is just different. And it's been different since the founding and the navigation acts that were part of the spark of the American Revolution. And let's see, we had another great clip of. I thought we had. Where's the Chief Justice? Do we not have that one where he makes clear that there's something very, very special in our system and our history about taxation? There was no Boston Licensing party or there was no Boston Quota party. The Boston Tea Party was about tax, period. And we overthrew a government because of taxation without representation. And the problem with the government's position to me is that they say, okay, we have an emergency. Yeah, maybe. And ipa, the law we've all heard about, says you can do certain things in emergencies, doesn't mention tariffs, mentions regulation. Maybe you could say that includes tariffs or is it a tax? I don't know. But then when you get into taxation, that's like the giant kahuna of who does what. When they designed our system. The power of the purse is Congress's. It cannot be in the hands of the king. I mean, president and several justices said, you know, Congress can delegate a lot of stuff, but that power, we gotta be super, super careful. Here is the aforementioned cutie pie. That's terrible. Brilliant legal mind, Amy Coney. I find her attractive.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the most misogynist thing you've ever done.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, please. In both intellect and demeanor, I find her comely. Indeed. Wow.

[Producer/Announcer]

Justice Barrett, I want to ask you a question about unusual and extraordinary threats, which we have not talked about yet. And I specifically want to talk about the reciprocal tariffs. These are Imposed on. I mean, these are kind of across the board. And so is it your contention that every country needed to be tariffed because of threats to the defense and industrial base? I mean, Spain, France, I mean, I could see it with some countries, but explain to me why as many countries needed to be subject to the reciprocal tariff policy as are.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody brought up Sweden. We've got a huge trade surplus with Sweden. What was the emergency there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, remember when the original list came out, it was like every country on earth. Right. And there were different numbers. And then they had that formula for how they came up for the number for each of the hundred countries or however many it was. And it was a fairly complicated formula no one could quite understand. But yeah, they couldn't all fall under the same emergency.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Let's flip to 44, Michael. It's B. John Sauer, who is the attorney for the President and his side, and the aforementioned Justice Kagan jawing. The President has to make a formal declaration of a national emergency, which subjects him to particularly intensive oversight by Congress. Repeat, you know, natural lapsing, repeated review reports and so forth. It says you have to consult Congress to the maximum. I mean, you yourself think that the declaration of emergency is unreviewable. And even if it's not unreviewable, it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course the kind of determination that.

[Joe Getty]

This court would grant considerable deference to the, to the President on.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that doesn't seem like much of a constraint.

[Joe Getty]

But it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

And in fact, you know, we've had cases recently which deals with the President's emergency powers. And it turns out we're in emergencies, everything all the time, about like half the world.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Which ought to bother you if you're a lover of liberty. This constant state of emergence. The other really interesting point that a couple of the Justices made was that if we were to play a little fast and loose with granting this power of taxation and tariffs or taxes to the President, you can't claw that back without a two thirds majority in both houses. Because once you grant a president that sort of power, ain't no president, either party's gonna give it back willingly. So you've gotta be willing to or able to overcome a presidential veto to claw that power back to Congress, which a couple of the justices referred to as a one way ratchet. Uh, one final note. Justice Alito, who I also am a big fan of, he seemed much more sympathetic to the President than the others in 46.

[Jack Armstrong]

You say that this is not this.

[Joe Getty]

Case, does not these executive orders do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not Address an unusual and extraordinary threat. I understand that argument.

[Joe Getty]

Suppose that the facts were that it was indispensable. Suppose that there was an imminent threat of war. Not a declared war, but an imminent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Threat of war with a very powerful enemy whose economy was heavily dependent on U.S. trade.

[Joe Getty]

Could a president, under this provision impose.

[Jack Armstrong]

A tariff as a way of trying.

[Joe Getty]

To stave off that war? Or would you say no, the president lacks that power? Yeah, the answer was long, but Alito was finding a way to. He was trying to find a way to protect what somebody else referred to as the president's toolkit.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you said yes yesterday. I don't remember if you said it on the air or not. You think Justice Roberts is really going to try to get a 90 vote on this against. Yeah, the Trump having the power to do this.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I reached out to some of my favorite legal authorities and they said, yeah, he would like that, but it's unlikely. So, you know, it's, it's going to be interesting to see play out. And they're going to get to the decision, I'm told not next June like they usually do, because it's too big a question, too urgent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, didn't they need to get to it, like eight months ago?

[Joe Getty]

Would have been helpful. Takes the time to write them legal briefs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump said yesterday in his interview with Bret Baier that this is one of the biggest decisions the court's gonna make in his entire administration.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and Trump said, yeah, if it goes the wrong way, it'll cause a worldwide depression for the rest of our lives. To which I actually laughed out loud. I hope he's wrong. It won't. Well, what's going to be the unraveling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of the tariffs, though, if the court does decide, no, the president can't do this. How do they, how do they unring the bell?

[Joe Getty]

What's that process? That is unclear. Might have to go back to lower courts to adjudicate that issue. Works its way back to the Supreme Court. Somebody might hint, hey, Congress, why don't you freaking do your jobs and come up with a solution?

[Jack Armstrong]

But all kinds of companies have paid, you know, lost tons of revenue or had to adjust prices in a way. And then consumers.

[Joe Getty]

Foreign and domestic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, foreign and domestic. And consumers have paid, you know, x thousand dollars more for this or that because the tariffs. Do you get your money back or how does that all work?

[Joe Getty]

Nobody knows.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody knows. Okay. We got more than waste.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Japan is grappling with a grisly problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Deadly bear attacks. A record 12 people have been killed.

[Joe Getty]

In more than 100 bear encounters since April.

[Jack Armstrong]

Al an issue so serious the country's pacifist military has taken the extraordinary step to deploy forces to the northern Akita and Iwate prefectures armed with shields, bear spray and traps. Watch out, bears are gonna go Pearl harbor on you. What they got? It's a national emergency.

[Joe Getty]

Bear attacks in Japan.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's exactly right.

[Joe Getty]

There's one. Yeah. Japanese bear attack. The name of my new band. We're gonna tour with Toad the Wet Sprocket and what's another good multi word panic at the disco.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

In an all wordy band festival.

[Jack Armstrong]

Japanese bear attack.

[Joe Getty]

What an interesting situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

They rarely use their military for anything. We trained for a Chinese invasion or attacking the United States. Again, we've trained for all these things but ain't got a lot of how to handle bears.

[Joe Getty]

While we were watching China, our bears rose up. Yeah. Oh, you know what? Donald J. Got very little credit when he was in Asia a couple of weeks ago for brow beating a number of our allies to spend more on defense. For God's sake. To get beefed up, get strong. Because they're gonna need it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because of bear attacks.

[Joe Getty]

No, no. I was thinking more in terms of China. But.

[Jack Armstrong]

A couple of things I want to get on before we have to take a break again. I do want to get into this person from the Heritage foundation that resigned yesterday. So unhappy about the leader of that conservative organization backing Tucker and Nick Fuentes the way he did. Now he has apologized even further. That's quite the interesting inter intra conservative argument. That's going on there. But.

[Joe Getty]

And, and it's kind of a cool thing, too, because we police our crazies, unlike the left.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'Ve been talking about. Affordability is like the word of the last 48 hours with the election, everything like that. Trump administration just announced there's going to be a big weight loss drug price announcement coming today. That is classic Trump right there. Nation of fat people who want their fat drugs cheaper. That's what Trump's thinking. And I'm going to announce that we're going to cut those way down and you can afford your dope me fat drug.

[Joe Getty]

That's a nice way to step on yesterday's headlines.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Came across this. Who's in charge of security at the Louvre? Me. The Louvre museum surveillance password was Louvre.

[Joe Getty]

Holy crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

They shouldn't have put me in charge because that's the way I do things. And that's something that's like the guest.

[Joe Getty]

Password at your dentist's office.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

You know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And that's the security password.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty funny. How much time I got, Michael?

[Joe Getty]

Depends how you keep eating.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

About one minute, though.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know we came up with a word for this. When you're flummoxed by some sort of technical thing and you just. And it's the feeling you get when you're having that. It's just. It's its own unique feeling.

[Joe Getty]

I think we. We decided on text Austrian.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was trying to pay a bill online yesterday, and you go, you had to go through, like. And you have to pay it this way. And I had to go through like, 90 steps to get to the end. It took probably 15 minutes at least.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, press one for this, press two for that, and then they say it and blah, blah, blah. And at the end it was, we'll send you a code. You have to type in the code to show that you knew this is the right phone. And every time I typed in the code, it would read back the wrong numbers. I would type in 6039 and it would say 5026 is the wrong number. That's not what I typed in, you bastards. Anyway, I did it like three or four times, and I was getting so mad, I thought I was going to punch a hole in the wall. That feeling is my least favorite feeling.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The scourge of the modern man.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's nobody to complain to. That's what's so maddening about it.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

The impact here will be huge for the American traveler. And Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy just said.

[Joe Getty]

If there is no deal ending the government shutdown, this policy will go into.

[Jack Armstrong]

Effect starting Friday morning.

[Joe Getty]

To put this simply, the FAA is imposing a 10% cut to flights at.

[Jack Armstrong]

40 major airports across the country.

[Joe Getty]

Those specific airports remain undisclosed. So what the FAA is talking about here is equivalent to canceling about 4,500 flights a day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that was undisclosed. The list is now out, and we'll get to that in a second. 4,500 flights a day starting tomorrow. 40 airports. As Joe predicted, it's not going to be, you know, tiny little airports. I'm not going to read all 40. I only need to hit you with a couple. Hartsfield in Atlanta, Denver International, the big airport in Chicago, lax. I can go through the whole list, but that should be enough to let you realize it's going to be a giant mess.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and I guarantee Phoenix and JFK are in there.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're all on here. Every big airport you can possibly think of. Sfo. You know, if I'm going to do local, Oakland international, somewhere around 4,500 flights, it'll be canceled tomorrow. This is when the shutdown has reached the. Okay, that's enough point, I think, for everybody.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there's gonna be some political pressure. Now. Mark Halpern wrote in his newsletter, he doesn't think the political pressure will start to mount until it gets closer to Thanksgiving. But every day we get closer to the biggest, biggest travel week of the year, more and more people are gonna get angrier and angry. You can't have 4,500 flights canceled every day for three weeks, though, can you?

[Joe Getty]

No. And I disagree with Mark. My reaction was immediate and strong news. I, I don't need it to happen for a few days before I realize what it means.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I, I think this is going to be the forcing mechanism. What's interesting is there's been a bunch of reporting that the Democrats were ready to cave. I don't know if that's fair or not, but give in. And, and enough of them were going to come across to sign on to open the government back up again until they had such a overwhelmingly good day on Tuesday, bigger than they even thought. And then enough people inside the caucus said, wait a second, we got the upper hand. They're on the back foot. Now's not the time to cave. And so they decided, we ain't gonna cave. And now we're back to square one, with both sides thinking the other side is getting the worst of it. It's interesting. On the same Day that Trump said in what was reported as a very quiet room, when he came out and said, we lost because of the shutdown. We're getting blamed for the shutdown. That's why we lost. We need to end this. And everybody, all the Republicans in the room are like, dead quiet, like, oh, the President has just said it's our fault. So where do we go now?

[Joe Getty]

I don't even agree. I mean, it may have been a factor, but please. Spanberger didn't beat Winsome Sears.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

In Virginia because of the shutdown.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't agree either. The, the real point is that, you know, he, he, he took any cover they have for blaming the Democrats. I mean, if the biggest political voice in America as a Republican says it's our fault, doesn't help your argument.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I actually, I was listening to NPR to punish myself for the bad things I've done. And, and they had a moderate Congress guy from Colorado on, and he's part of the Problem Solvers Caucus, and they're trying to come to some sort of compromise and reopen the government. But. And I thought, okay, surely, dude, you will say something like, the Republicans are just for following what the Democrats passed two years ago. The Democrats have said, no, no, no, no, no. We want more to reopen the government. But he never enunciated that. I'm not sure I've heard any Republican enunciate that with any clarity.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't either.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you're bad at your jobs. I realize, you know, your job mostly is to legislate, but let's face it, the big part of your job is to get elected and to communicate with the people and help them understand your policies. And the Republican Party is just bad at it.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I could go through the list of airports that they're going to cut 10% of flights just based on cities. We're on Salt Lake City International, San Francisco, Seattle, Tacoma, San Diego, Phoenix, Portland. We on any stations in the Chicago area?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Chicago. O', Hara. Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

Sorry for saying shout out to our friends in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Oakland.

[Joe Getty]

Hanson is shaking his head.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know he's angry with me.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, again, as usual. Oh, there he is, glowering into the camera.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lax, Vegas. Yes, I could go on and on.

[Joe Getty]

But, you know, all, all the begins.

[Jack Armstrong]

All the big airports are cutting 10% of their flights. That's many hundreds of flights. Oh, God. And you know how that affects things. So everybody, People that have to get somewhere are gonna have to get onto a different flight, which makes those more crowded, which makes all the flights more expensive and cascading is the word of the day Joe came up with on this whole thing. And people decide, screw it, I'll drive. Then all the rental cars are used up, right?

[Joe Getty]

Well, in picture flying during the holiday season. And all those empty seats, Wait a minute, there aren't any. So what are you going to do with the 10% of air travel that now has no seat? Where are you going to put them? In the overhead bin, have them walk? They'll have to go days later, which is not the way holidays work, really.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it's not. You show up Sunday morning for Thanksgiving. It's not the same thing. I don't think that's going to be a problem. I would be shocked if this doesn't get worked out in the next 48 hours.

[Joe Getty]

I hope you're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, just don't think there's a chance they're going to let 4,500 flights a day be canceled and put up with the noise that. That is. Both parties, Schumer and Trump or whoever who's leading this goat rodeo on either side are going to get together and say, okay, what do we do? How do we. I'll let you save face. You let me save face. We got to end this.

[Joe Getty]

I'll say something bad about AOC once a week. No, that would actually help her, you know? Cause that's, that's what this is all about is Schumer getting primaried by AOC and them thinking, yeah, the expiration of our extra subsidies to Obamacare, which we signed into law, fighting against that and claiming it's something evil the Republicans are doing. That looks really good for us. So it's all just dishonest politics. But again, without good messaging, you can't communicate that to people. But I suspect you're right that it will end by the end of the week. I don't know. I'm just so discouraged by the state of our government.

[Jack Armstrong]

How would you not be? And you know, and just our politics and our culture and everything like that. To that point yesterday I, I was in my liberal college town, like all college towns are, and I was going to pick up a friend of mine. We were going to go eat lunch and he said, drive your cyber truck. It'll drive my neighbors crazy. And. And then he told me a story about a friend of his from one of your red counties in California. Showed up in his pickup truck that had like Trump stickers on it and all that sort of stuff. I mean, like a full on MAGA stickered up truck was parked in his driveway and he said the neighbors talked to his wife because they didn't want to talk to him because they knew he was sympathetic toward. He got neighbors talked to his wife and we're having a conversation of like what do we do? What should we do? And his response was what you do is you ignore somebody else's truck in somebody else's driveway.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, what do you mean what you do?

[Jack Armstrong]

But I just thought that was such.

[Joe Getty]

A reach down, get hold of your panties, pull them in this direction, then that direction and that should unwad them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, each side likes to claim the other side is worse. But I really do think in general, people on the right think the people on the left are wrong. People on the left think the people on the right are evil. It's we have wrong. You think I'm evil because if I see a truck in my neighborhood and then parked next door and it's got the coexist and Kamala Harris, Biden Harris bumper sticking on the seven. I roll my eyes and that's the only that's the last of me thinking about it.

[Joe Getty]

Go about your life. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wouldn't get with my other neighbors. What should we do? What should we do? What the hell are you talking about?

[Joe Getty]

That's hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, isn't it?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just the non hilarious side of that way of thinking. Coming up in a little bit, we've got some audio of people including Mumdani supporters who may well rouse you to want to get into the fight. Before we get to a word from our friends at prize picks, a quick shout out to 13:40am WJOL in Joliet, Illinois. Will counties news celebrating 100 years on the air in beautiful Chicagoland where I grew up.

[Jack Armstrong]

100 years on the air. Wow. Going back to 1925, that's at the very, very beginning of radio. Yep, Charles Lindbergh has crossed the atlantic. I could have done that. I could have been on back then. We got football going on tonight, so get involved prize picks wise. Thursday night Football, if you didn't know that Raiders, Broncos. But whether it's Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes or Steph Curry and Luka Doncic, there's all kinds of ways to get involved in price pick. You pick more or less on a couple of categories. In fact, with prize picks now offering stacks, you can pick the same player up to three times in the same lineup, which is really, really cool. Take your sports opinion, turn it into money. Download the prize picks app today. Use the code armstrong to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Try to picture this. A group of neighbors knocking on the door to talk to the wife to say, we're trying to decide what to do about that truck that's in your driveway with the Trump bumper sticker on it. I would have wanted to play along.

[Joe Getty]

Precious. Oh, yeah, it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy. What are our options? Things to do, I suppose. I don't know. We could set him on fire.

[Joe Getty]

Could we? Should we call the police advocate that. I think we should call the police. Try to goad them into calling 911. I think we should report the report. A pickup truck with a very hostile bumper sticker in a driveway in my neighborhood. Maybe just so that 911 tape would exist and leak its way into the media.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you suppose they should close the local schools until it leaves and.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

Is the person in the truck doing something? Now it's the very presence of the truck that bothers us so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're all gathered in.

[Joe Getty]

I don't understand. Is it parked illegally? Is it? No, it's got a Trump bumper sticker on it.

[Jack Armstrong]

What should we do?

[Joe Getty]

What should we do? Go hide in those bushes and just sit there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Arm yourselves. Hide in the bush. Keep an eye on it. You need to work on shifts so nobody ever lets the truck out of its sight. All night long, you weirdos. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. When the day starts with Dick Cheney being dead, it ends with Mamdani winning. Oh, yes. Oh, I'm so happy. Oh, my God, I'm so happy. All right, that's a lefty woman celebrating. Well, it's clear what she was celebrating. Big Mandami fan. Here's another Mumdani fan in New York City.

[Producer/Announcer]

Korea law starts now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely. Zahrani Islamic Caliphate, our brother in Islam. Islamic Caliphate of New York starts today, baby. Sharia law starts today. Islamic Caliphate of New York. Zoran, our brother in Islam.

[Jack Armstrong]

So being happy that Dick Cheney died the same day socialists got elected mayor of New York is. I mean, it's one thing to have those feelings, and it's another thing decide to post it. You know, you wouldn't think you'd be the sort of person that ever post glee over anyone's death, but the more disturbing one is celebrating the. The caliphate is coming. What in the world?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, she said the quiet part out loud. There are a number of Muslim supremacists, Islamists, if you prefer the term, who are very happy about Mumdani's election for a variety of reasons, mostly having to do with establishing a worldwide caliphate and overthrowing democracy, Christianity and Judaism. More on that to come. Headline. There it is. More arrests have been made as part of that ISIS terrorist plot against LGBTQ. Plus minus over the power. Three bars on Halloween. According to the acting U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey, the arrests in New Jersey were a couple of Muslim fellows who were on their way to Newark Liberty International Airport to flee to Turkey because their buddies in Michigan had been arrested. These guys had actually traveled to Michigan to discuss shooting up gay bars with the guys who got arrested the other day in Michigan. Two of the guys pledged themselves to isis, posed for photos in front of an ISIS flag, planning a terrorist attack on US soil. All of them, I believe, in their 20s. Yeah. So well done, FBI. It's testament to the great work that agency and others do that kept us protected. Anyway, on that topic, here's somebody who has only dimly aware of Jennifer Welch. She is. She was known Bravo tv, one of those home many home shows. But she's a way, way lefty. Like a bitter, nasty, angry lefty. In her Far Left podcast, I think it's We've had it I think is the name of it is a big deal on the Far left, I guess this audio is not great. I will interpret it as necessary. Here's Jennifer Welch. I've grown up in those circles. Everybody needs some spices of color in their lives. Life's a lot better.

[Producer/Announcer]

And that's the coolest thing about America.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is the coolest thing about culture. Well said.

[Joe Getty]

And we need to teach people how to embrace that. Okay, so what she said was, look, we're surrounded by a lot of white People, Americans have no culture except for multiculturalism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is she white?

[Joe Getty]

White people need to be taught this. Crusty white people need to learn how to embrace it.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's a self hating white person.

[Joe Getty]

There is no American culture except for modern multiculturalism, says this Jennifer Welch monster. America hating xenophile ignoramus. The idea that we don't have a culture, the ignorance is astonishing. Never mind the political perversity of it. American culture has been so dominant. Both, you know, culture as people refer to it, arts and entertainment, that sort of thing. But American political culture, the culture of free speech and religion, entrepreneurialism, individual rights, all of it has been so incredibly successful and popular around the world. People like you used to say, our culture is too dominant in the world. We need to not dominate other cultures.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Being less entertaining or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact that you can go to any corner of the world and there's a McDonald's and somebody wearing Levi's jeans waiting in line for a Big Mac is, you know.

[Joe Getty]

And people yearning to breathe free and speak freely and come to the United States literally by the billions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Because of our culture.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe the thing we take the most for granted is the lack of corruption in our culture compared to other countries. Because, man, that's a hard thing to get going and a tough thing to get back if you lose it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And one more time, and I'm borrowing a little from Samuel Huntington on this, but culture, here's what culture is. It's how we do things around here. It's not just your native dance and your traditional clothing that you throw on at your national holidays. It is the relationship between people and their government, between husbands and wives, children and their teachers. It is our arts and entertainment. But it's also. Free speech is part of our culture. The freedom of religion is an incredibly important part of our culture. The fact that we don't have government corruption on the level of other people. How we do things around here is our culture. And for this malignant ignoramus to claim that Americans have no culture except for multiculturalism. She's evil. Evil and ignorant.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the name of your band gonna be?

[Joe Getty]

Japanese Bear Attack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Japanese Bear Attack. That's right. Yeah, I'm gonna gotta remember that. That's a good one.

[Joe Getty]

Great logo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie brought us the news that the year's closest super moon.

[Joe Getty]

I'm thinking it'll be a samurai like protecting itself as it is beset by a bear. That'll be our logo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie told us about the year's closest supermoon the other day. The results of that are quite amazing to me. I want to work that into hour three, the way that seems to affect people, according to a couple of medical professionals I talked to.

[Joe Getty]

What? Yeah, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Seems crazy, doesn't it? So I hope you can get hour three.

[Joe Getty]

If you don't get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I heart podcast.