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Jack Armstrong
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Vizio
What's good? It's Colleen Witt and Eating While Broke is back for Season three, brought to you by the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. We're serving up some real stories and life lessons from people like Van Lathan, D.C. young, fly phone Thugs and Harmony and many more. They're sharing the dishes that got them through their struggles and the wisdom they gained along the way. We're cooking up something special, so tune in every Thursday. Listen to Eating While Broke on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple.
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Jack Armstrong
Podcasts, or wherever you get podcast presented by State Farm. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
It was the underpinning of the Democratic campaign that we, that Donald Trump is a fascist. And what I see in this, what it tells me and what it ought to tell Democrats is they didn't mean any of it. It totally blows up the way they ran this campaign. At the end of the campaign, you.
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Jack Armstrong
Know, I'm glad it's a peaceful transition of power, but what happened to the threat of democracy talk? What happened to the fascist talk?
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Mike Tyson
By the way, how do you go.
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Jack Armstrong
From he's an extensional threat to democracy to welcome back. He was happy, too. He was happy. He was smiling, he was grinning, he was teasing.
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Joe Getty
And I do think that the public see, some of the public sees this and they're like, okay, so was that all totally overstated or was he just.
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Jack Armstrong
Saying that to win or to scare people about Trump?
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Joe Getty
Well, that's what I said the other day. I'm, I'm kind of happy that this next generation of voters got their first dose of, oh, this is all phony now. I get it, cuz that happened to a lot of us many, many years ago when we realized that people say all kinds of crazy crap during campaigns that they don't mean at all. But the next round of young people or new voters always buy it and think it's real until you see, you know, commonly get up there and give her speech and say, the fight goes on. We'll get him next time. What? What do you mean, get him next time? You said last night there will never be another vote if Trump wins. Shouldn't we be, like, marshaling our forces to figure out how to fight the fascist before he gets in office?
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Jack Armstrong
Why are we not crafting swords and shields out of old auto parts? I mean, this is an existential war.
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Joe Getty
Like, like Margaret Brennan asked Rokana on Face the Nation, are you legislation to deal with the fascist takeover or was that just talk?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. You know, hyperbole, like, well, like a lot of things has to increase over time because yesterday's hyperbole is kind of quaint. Right? And so I, surely I'm about to say something that I will regret. Surely we're like at the top of the hyperbole scale. We'll never have another election and you will be enslaved. And he's beyond that. You'll be eaten.
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Joe Getty
What's beyond? He's Hitler. He's Jeffrey Dahmer. He's Jeffrey Dahmer. He will go home to home and eat you. He will drug you, have sex with you, your sex zombie body, and then eat you.
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Jack Armstrong
All right, exactly. I guess that's all that's left. Anyway, we can look forward to that in 2028, if not the midterms, right? Speaking of the over and lunatic reaction to the recent election, boy, I would like to dig into white women losing their freaking minds over the election and cutting off family members and having psychological meltdowns. And what does it mean? I mean, I, you know, I would like to have a fun and entertaining conversation about it. I would also like to learn to hear learned, you know, sages try to explain the phenomenon because it's, it's disturbing. Our politics should not be like this. Or is it before we get into the bulk of what we wanted to talk about this segment, or is it, and I have to remind myself constantly, nut jobs, cuckoo birds, whatever you want to call them, have always existed. But unless one lived next door to you, you never knew about it in the past. But with the Internet, everybody is their own publishing company. And because of, what is it called, notability bias or something like that, if somebody says something completely fruit loops, you're much, much, much more likely to hear it than if somebody says something perfectly reasonable. Is that why it seems like more people are having absolute inexplicable meltdowns online or.
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Joe Getty
I don't know. I mean, what you just said is true, but I personally know people, not a lot of people just because of the circles I run in, but I personally know people that are pretty crazy over this stuff.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it runs both ways.
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Joe Getty
And I never did before.
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Jack Armstrong
It runs both ways now that I think about it for five seconds. The inputs of the crazy ideas are much more common and they're more easily reinforced. It's like every other crazy ass Internet thing we've talked about. If you were, you know, not very many years ago at all, and you were in your hometown and you said, you know, if Trump wins, I think he's going to impose a Hitler like, Nazi regime and we'll never have another election, everybody would say, dude, no, he was president for a while and January 6th sucked and all. But no, like everybody came together and said, no, we preserve the union custody. It'll be fine, Jim, it'll be fine. And you would be dissuaded now you get online and you might have to cover the entire globe to find 10,000 people who agreed with you, but you'd find 10,000 and it would feel like a lot, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Humankind can't take the Internet anyway. Speaking of. Go ahead. Was there more on that?
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Joe Getty
No, I can't. And I don't want to use up all the time, but I've been making my way through the book Sapiens and. Wow, is that a good book. Into the. What we know about Homo sapiens and our ability to, you know, gather together over ideas and how important it is to our survival and why we beat out all the other human species because they couldn't do that. Fits in with this perfectly. And the Internet exploits that in the same way that candy bars exploit our desire for sweet, but the only sweet that used to exist is fruit. Our desire to take in information and band together around, around. It used to only be pretty real. Information from our village is now being exploited like a candy bar by the Internet.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. For profit. Yeah. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Bridge clip here to get us into the main theme of things. Speaking of freakouts, the brilliant Riley Gaines. Mike Lynn in 71.
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Vizio
When your political party or your ideology.
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Joe Getty
Calls for you to shave your head, block your friends on social media and cut off family members, you are no longer dealing with a political party. You are in a cult. I think the irony of this is that this is the crowd that claims to be tolerant and accepting and welcoming to diverse groups, but clearly they're not welcoming. They're not welcoming to diverse thought. And that's been made very clear over the past four years. That's the environment that the previous, the current, I guess, administration has created.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, right. It's like the great lie of dei. They don't mean diversity, they mean us. You have to let us in. Then the moment they control it, there's zero diversity.
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Joe Getty
But cult is thrown around too often. But if you're claiming my side's a cult, but you're banding together by shaving.
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Jack Armstrong
Your heads, that's kind of a cult.
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Joe Getty
Go to the whole shaving your heads thing.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And the media has been in on it because they're mostly soft heads are way lefty or just go along to get along. But their. Their coverage of a lot of the gender bending madness stuff, which Riley Gaines is a big activist on. She's incredibly courageous because she wants get this hit, this craziness. She wants only women in women's sp. So anyway, you got Seth Moulton, the Democratic congress man who was doing an autopsy of the election said, look, Democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend anyone rather than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face. I have two little girls. I don't want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete. But as a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that? Well, one of his top aides resigned, essentially calling him a bigot and a transphobe for even saying that. Who's in a cult. And you didn't hear this because the incredible bias of the media, but an Indiana law banning gender affirming care for minors. Hey, Newsmax, why do you use that term? That is an incredibly prejudicial term intended to prejudge the question.
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Joe Getty
Sure. Gender affirming care means there's such thing as that.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
And more than half the country thinks there isn't such thing as that.
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Jack Armstrong
No, you're. You're signing on a radical gender theory that a boy, well, a boy is a boy maybe, but can choose their gender, whatever the hell that means. Doesn't mean anything. With the right care and brutal, horrific experimental surgeries and drug treatments on those few youths, is gender affirming. Again, you're letting them win the argument with the very words you're using. Stop it. But a panel of Judges on the 7th U.S. circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2 to 1 Wednesday that the law's restrictions are absolutely within the purview of the Indiana General assembly and do not infringe on the constitutional rights of quote, unquote, transgender children. There ought to be quotes around that. It's a radical gender theory. Wackadoodle, unsupportable theory of, quote, unquote, gender. Anybody who uses the term transgender for children, it ought to be in quotes, but it doesn't infringe on anybody's rights. And the Circuit Court of Appeals upheld it. Good. A quick word from our friends at prizepix, then. I want to get to some audio we played the other day, but I didn't fully appreciate how Looney Tunes it was. And I want to highlight that after a word again from Prize Picks. The best place to get real money, sports action, over 10 million members, billions of dollars in awarded winnings, and it's fun and easy. You just pick more or less on at least two players and their stats for a shot to win up to 100 times your cash.
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Joe Getty
I'm taking the over on one ear chewed off by Mike Tyson. I think Jake Paul will leave the ring with zero ears. Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
You think he'll both chewed off completely off. Boy, that's not only morally but logistically challenging.
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Joe Getty
Won't be easy.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no. Well, he's got to get in there and start chewing anyway. The whole transgender thing is a cult. It's absolutely a cult. And it's sad that the poor adolescent girls in particular, and some gay boys or effeminate boys are getting whisked down this road by activists oppose it everywhere. No cruel experiments on children. But CNN the other day had J. Michelson, who's a lefty LGBTQ plus minus over the power of four barbecue activist and Shermichael Singleton, who is a youngish black man who is a moderately conservative fella. And they were talking about boys playing girls sports. And I just heard the audio and I hadn't seen the video, and so I'd lost a lot of significance of it. But go ahead and play it. First of all, Michael, 70, I think there are a lot of families out there who don't believe boys should play girls sports.
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Joe Getty
They're not boys. I'm not going to listen to transphobia at this table. I am not going to listen to you.
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Jack Armstrong
Allow me to finish my explanation.
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Joe Getty
When you use words to slur, I'm going to interrupt. That's not how it is change. They're not boys. They're not boys. They're not playing girls softball. I'm not going to sit there for a second.
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Jack Armstrong
But that's why Republicans kept running those ads over and over and over again, because they saw the metrics, suggested that.
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Joe Getty
They were working those ads over and over again and using rhetoric like you just used saying, this is boys playing girls sports. First of all, we're talking about which side language. We're talking about trans girls playing, playing, being allowed to play with the people.
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Jack Armstrong
Who are in their gender.
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Joe Getty
And if you don't believe, you don't have to listen to me. Listen to the American Medical association, the American Psychological Association.
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Jack Armstrong
All right, so there's so much crosstalk, you missed some of it. First of all, the lightweight, empty headed hostess there whose name I don't recall, maybe somebody can pipe in. Doesn't really matter. During the. Well, let's start with the fact that Shermichel Singleton said we can't have boys playing girls sports and the J. Michaelson character said they're not boys, they're girls. No they're not. You're a lunatic. You're in a cult. You can't change your sex by declaring it. That's just. And what's interesting is the hostess jumps in and says, sure, Michael, let's be respectful and asks him not to use the terms that J. Michaelson is objecting to. Don't say they're boys. Wait a minute, that's the entire question. So here on cnn, you're saying, as Charlie Cook pointed out on the National Review, I'm seeing their apples. You're saying they're oranges. And you're telling me I'm not allowed to say they're apples because that offends the guy saying they're oranges. What the hell kind of show is this? Secondly, CNN seemed just perfectly content with a white guy shouting down a black guy and saying, you don't get to talk. Cause you're offending me. Oh, that's kind of funny, cnn. It's kind of funny that you're fine with that all of a sudden.
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Joe Getty
Wow, no kidding. On any other topic, that's the whole they're not boys.
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Jack Armstrong
Yes they are, you crazy person. And folks, we gotta stand up and say that. Don't let them force you to say something you know not to be true.
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Joe Getty
My mom for the first time weighed in on presidential cabinet pics in an email yesterday for some reason. And I think she's right. Among other things on the way. Stay tuned.
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Mike Bagley
Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Well, they changed right side tires. Only the entire wheel came off.
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Jack Armstrong
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Mike Bagley
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Jack Armstrong
I was flying not terribly long ago and I can't remember it was somebody in the airline. I had a question and they said yeah, just type the flight number into your browser and hit return. It'll automatically go to our like not super public facing website and you'll have all the info you need.
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Joe Getty
Wow, that's a handy. How do I just know this now, right? Or do they not want everybody to know it?
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Jack Armstrong
Don't know.
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Joe Getty
I would think that there'd be signs everywhere saying that, huh?
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Jack Armstrong
Save them. You know, people calling and I don't.
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Joe Getty
Know why did I dig the moon Driving away work today. Last night when boys and I went out to eat, super bright, big round, obviously full moon. I didn't realize this though. It's an extra special beaver moon. It's the last super moon of the year, so enjoy it tonight. Again.
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Jack Armstrong
An extra special beaver moon.
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Joe Getty
You know, if you're into the fancy moons. So Alina Haba, my mom sent me this email which is very out of character for her. She said, Alina Haba, Trump's lawyer in all his court cases, that's the super hot lawyer you'd always see. Oh, any court case. Yeah, she was being considered for his press secretary, then she withdrew her name the same day Matt Gaetz was named. And my mom's theory is that Matt Gaetz won't get confirmed and then he's going to put her in for attorney general. His personal lawyer? I have no idea. But I did look into her background a little bit and she is a very religious, very respected, upstanding citizen. Kind of the opposite of Matt Gates in terms of her personal life. But whether or not she'd be the AG I have no idea. 1 here's one interesting thing from her background though, and I didn't know anything about her. She's married to a guy. She's from New Jersey. Her and her husband are both from New Jersey. Her husband is a businessman in parking lot in the parking lot management industry in New Jersey.
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Jack Armstrong
Forget about it.
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Joe Getty
So she's a lawyer for Donald Trump and he's in the parking lot management industry in New Jersey. No kidding. Forget about it. How New Jersey is that?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, parking lots are a handy service to something.
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Joe Getty
Hey, they don't manage themselves, right.
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Jack Armstrong
Exactly. You gotta be proactive about that crap, huh?
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Joe Getty
RFK Jr gonna be the secretary of HHS for better or worse. His name was put up yesterday, officially. We can talk more about that at some point.
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Jack Armstrong
Or is Trump just establishing, as he often does, a kind of wildly aggressive opening position that he's more than willing to back off of with some of these appointments as a negotiation of his demands?
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Joe Getty
Yeah, Mike Tyson gave an interesting interview I'd like to play a portion of at some point also. Stay tuned.
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Mike Bagley
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Old boxing legend Mike Tyson is coming out of retirement to fight 27 year old youtuber Jake Paul. I'm a little nervous because there's a 30 year age gap between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. I mean think of it the other way around. If Mike Tyson was boxing, Al Pacino would be okay with this amazing big fight is tomorrow and fans are already making signs to hold up at the arena and we saw some earlier.
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Mike Tyson
We have some right here.
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Jack Armstrong
Look at this sign. It says these punches are softer than the food Biden eats.
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Joe Getty
These are signs are holding up, gearing up.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow, look at this. Other's fine this time says my girlfriend who lives in Canada is more real than this.
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Joe Getty
Oh my. Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
It's just very cynical. My God, that's good. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Look at these of the signs people are holding up. I did just see. So Katie hipped us to the fact that there's some supposed controversy around Jake Paul crawling like a monkey on stage. And that was racist or something like that. I would have never thought of that because I don't think about the world in those terms. But it was a weird way. I just saw it the way he monkey crawled onto the stage. I don't know. I think he's just trying to be entertaining in a Goofy, I'm a YouTube star sort of way. But it'd be a pretty old school sort of comment, wouldn't it?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, he's a provocateur and offender.
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Joe Getty
I'm going to try to pretend that I think there's something somewhat interesting about this, like, on a deeper level rather than just kind of funny. Mike Tyson did an interview with some young reporter yesterday, and she was asking him about his legacy or whether this will damage his legacy or whatever. And the key to the visual is that she looks like she. Well, she's like five, four and a half feet tall, 80 pounds, and, like, looks like she's 16 years old, which she looked horrified by talking to this giant old man. But this is how the interview went.
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Vizio
Well, in your return to the ring for this fight, you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to see the legend, Mike Tyson in the ring for the first time. So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done?
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Mike Tyson
Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I just think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed on to. Someone said that word and everyone grabbed on the word. So now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm gonna die and it's gonna be over. Who cares about legacy after that? What a big ego. So I'm gonna die. I want people to think that I'm this. I'm great, I'm. No, we're nothing. We're just dead. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing. Our legacy is nothing.
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Vizio
Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That is something that I have not heard before. Someone say that as an answer.
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Mike Tyson
Can you really imagine somebody say, I want my legacy to be this way when I. You're dead. Why do you want somebody you think somebody really wants to think about you? How? What's their dad's dad think? I want people to think about me when I'm gone. Who the cares about me when I'm gone? My kids. Maybe grandkids.
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Jack Armstrong
And she cried herself to sleep.
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Joe Getty
And she just says, well, thank you for that answer.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
And he's got this very, like, serious look on his face. He's looking down at her. If you die, you're just dead. You're dust. Nobody cares. You're dead. Thanks.
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Jack Armstrong
You know that she Handled it with aplomb, no doubt.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I do think that's interesting though. I've thought about that since I read Woody Allen's autobiography that he put out a couple years ago that he has. He doesn't care at all what mark he left on the movie industry. He enjoyed making movies, but beyond that, you know, I'll be gone and eventually they'll never be remembered again. I just, I never think about. He said, I never think about it ever. Like whether people liked it or not or it's, you know, groundbreaking or whatever the whole legacy thing is. Another word for ego is actually a pretty interesting view of life.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. For all of the easy jokes that come when you're discussing Mike Tyson. He really is an interesting guy in a lot of ways. His life path, what he's lived through, the heights, the depths, his combination of like brutality and he's no intellectual, but he is a thoughtful guy in a very unique way. His sort of thoughtful guy generally doesn't get quoted and looked at and listened to. He's a complicated guy. No doubt.
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Joe Getty
What do you think? That, that in general. And I think I would do a carve out for. I would like my legacy to live on with my children will feel like they were well raised or I will have some influence on their parenting or whatever, that sort of thing. But in terms of like, you know, all kinds of other stuff, what difference does it make?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I. I think this is the kind of question that you might change your mind depending on what mood you're in. But I totally see his point. I mean, that poor girl.
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Joe Getty
Thank you. Thank you for that answer. When you die, you're dead. You're effing dead. Nobody effing cares.
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Jack Armstrong
You're dust.
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Joe Getty
Oh, okay. Can I go home now?
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Jack Armstrong
I'm 14. Yeah, that's okay. So I guess my answer briefly would be I completely get the idea of you want to be remembered fondly or with respect, and maybe you have a project, whatever it is, a book, a symphony, whatever, and you would like that to endure as really good work. On the other hand, as the great philosopher Mike Tyson pointed out, you're going to be gone and will be totally unaware of it, at least depending on your conception of the afterlife and whatever. And I don't want to get into that. Is it just a desperate effort to deny mortality? It feels like you will keep living on because people are still reading your book.
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Joe Getty
Well, does anybody's view of the afterlife include your financial successes or fame having a role? I don't think so, no.
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Jack Armstrong
No. But is it worth producing something or sharing an idea or introducing compassion, even, that influences people after you're gone? I think if you think you're truly. I mean, if you're like some brilliant constitutional scholar who helps people understand why, for instance, even though Donald J. Wants all of his appointees appointed without Senate approval, if he can't get it, why, that's probably not a good idea. If you can communicate that in a way that persuades people three generations down the line and keeps the Constitution intact, that's really, really cool.
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Joe Getty
Sure. Absolutely.
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Jack Armstrong
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Have you.
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Jack Armstrong
It's a good question, especially as posed by a man who punched other people in the head for a living and.
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Joe Getty
But a man. Zero. Have you seen any of the videos of RFK Jr. Lifting weights shirtless?
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Jack Armstrong
I think I did once.
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Joe Getty
I think he was. I think he was in that famous. Where they lift weights on Venice beach in la. And he's walking around, his shirt off, or he's walking around regular clothes, and he took off his suit jacket, his shirt, so he's in jeans. And he's like. He looks like a bodybuilder. I mean, he looks like a flipping bodybuilder. And he does some bench presses. He's 70 years old. He is a freak of nature in terms of.
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Jack Armstrong
He's a roid guy, isn't he?
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Joe Getty
Hey, I don't know if he does roids. He admits to testosterone, but I don't know if he does roids at all. He's quite large. Yeah, Quite a bit larger than he was when he was much younger. And I don't know if he's going to prescribe that for everyone. If he's HHS secretary, all males will get a free prescription. I don't know.
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Jack Armstrong
Sounds good to me. Quick on RFPA junior. There are several stances he has. I'd like to hear him flesh out. Maybe they've been overstated or twisted by the mainstream media and big Pharma or whatever. I'm willing to give the guy a full hearing completely. The bear prank was funny. That is not evidence that he's unfit for anything. He comes across a dead bear, he thinks, hmm, one doesn't come across a dead bear every day. What profit might there be in this dead bear? There's certainly none for the bear. And he thought, you know, it'd be funny if I left this in Central park. And people would say, a bear got run over by a bike. And you know what? That's GD funny. I do it for a living. That's funny.
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Joe Getty
How about the disqualifying the fact that.
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Jack Armstrong
The guy thinks out of the box and he's got kind of a nutty sense of humor. Good for you, rfk.
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Joe Getty
How about the chainsawing off the dead whale's head and strapping it to your van with the juices running down the windows?
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Jack Armstrong
That's so gross. On the other hand, to have at a fully intact whale skull would be.
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Joe Getty
Kind of cool, quirky, but not disqualifying in my mind in terms of being HHS secretary.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, I would think of it. But he was with his wife and children at the time, wasn't he? Yeah.
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Joe Getty
His daughter tells that story. He himself told the bear story, and then his daughter tells the whale head story.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think I would think that of the whale, but I would be vetoed so vehemently by the particularly the women in my life that I would not have chainsawed off the whale's head and put it on the roof of.
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Joe Getty
My car just in case. I don't know what all yalls media flow is, but every media outlet talking about RFK Jr calls him anti vax. He specifically, specifically said to every microphone he could come in contact with yesterday that he's not anti vax. So that will have to be, you know, fleshed out. As Joe said, figure out where he is on what kind of vaccinations and all that sort of thing, but don't take the mainstream media's word for it that he's officially anti vaccinations across the board.
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Jack Armstrong
And one more quick note. Pete Hegseth, Trump's pick for defense secretary, was investigated for alleged sexual assault in 2017. And now all the mainstream media guys are reporting on that. He was almost immediately cleared. There was nothing there as far as they could tell. Some late night incident, somebody got mad and called the cops. But anyway, so there's. I don't think there's anything to be uncovered there, but it's getting a lot of attention.
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Joe Getty
Listen, little girl, when you die, you're dead. You're effing dead. Life is pointless. All right, thanks. Thank. Thank you. What a funny thing to say with his demeanor.
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Jack Armstrong
Say it to me. Say it to me. I'll be dead soon. To a child journalist, like, enjoy life for a little bit there, Mike.
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Joe Getty
So Elon put out an interesting tweet yesterday with his preliminary look at all the waste in government. It's not hard to find. It's a rich vein of opportunities. We can hit some of those. I mean, some of the stuff we spend money on by the billions is.
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Jack Armstrong
Just people who are going after them. Elon is this Vivek is that. I tell you what, let's have a try. Let's give it a try, right? Let's see what happens. Maybe it's half successful, maybe it's a 10th successful. How is that worse than not trying? Go get them. That's what I say.
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Joe Getty
Yep, more on the way.
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A little bit about something that matters to Joe and I. We both have been in the radio business our whole lives and cared about radio our whole. And one of our favorite radio hosts got fired. He was calling it yesterday in the Bay area of San Francisco. We've been on the air in San Francisco. We were on a couple different stations. KGO now KSFO, over 21 years that we've been on in San Francisco and a little longer than us. Tom Tolbert was doing sports in the afternoon on KNBR in San Francisco. And I loved his show. And for whatever reason Cumulus let him go and he, they let him do a final show yesterday. And I was just hoping mentioning on this year it somehow would seep back to him at some point that the Armstrong and Getty show is a big fan and supporter of Tom Tolbert and his show in the afternoon. Great, great radio. I admire people who do great radio. I have since I was a little kid, before I ever even knew I'd be in the industry.
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Jack Armstrong
There's nothing like Mr. T. Is one of my favorite personalities of any sort of radio. Just absolutely terrific. Loved him. Was one of the high points of my day, flipping on his show whenever I could through the years with various co hosts. But it's budget cuts. It's the, you know, a lot of traditional media is really, really struggling. CNN's about to lay off hundreds of people. Of course they suck, unlike Mr. T. But yeah, it's challenging times, no doubt.
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Joe Getty
Well, sometimes, depending on the situation with the company, if you're successful and have a high salary, you're first because they gotta cut salary. So yeah, to the cable news industry. On Tuesday, one week after the election, CNN and MSNBC drew their lowest in demo ratings in a quarter of a century. CNN with the lowest ratings they'd had since 2000, MSNBC the lowest since 2001 going down. So that's why you're seeing a whole bunch of people get fired there. So, yeah, it's. The newspaper industry got hit hard. The radio industry, I'll make it clear, since we're in it still very, very effective for advertisers and everything like that. But it's a different dynamic with the way stations are structured and we're on many, many stations across the country and just, you know, it's a different structured business than it used to be.
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Jack Armstrong
Sure, yeah. With podcasting and everything else, you know, the luxury you don't have anymore in broadcasting or cable news is to be sucky. You don't have the luxury of being bad at your job. And CNN is sometimes pretty good, but they're often terrible and a waste of your time. And, you know, I would watch now and again and we've played some clips even today where this is a difficult screen to put together, you know, in brief. But either they had the wrong people if they were going to trust the instincts of their hosts and their creative people, either they had the wrong people in charge or they had some sort of consultant driven view of what the people want. And that almost never works.
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Joe Getty
Nope. No, it does not. Getting back to Tom Tolbert, afternoon sports guy, San Francisco I listened to for all these years, no consultant built that show.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, no.
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Joe Getty
Nobody told him to talk about WWE wrestling or cooking ribs or whatever as much as he did. That was just his personality and his ability to relate to an audience. Yeah, it's, you know, and again, I just, I like good radio so much. What? I listened to his final show yesterday and just, there's a, there's a relationship and intimacy that comes with live radio that you can't get any way else. Just like a magic thing that happens sometimes. And I know some of you feel that way about this show, which I really, really appreciate, but I hated to see another one of those shows that I really like go away.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, agreed.
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Joe Getty
Also kind of getting to Mike Tyson's thing earlier about legacy and all that sort of stuff. Time goes by, times change. Everybody has their time in the sun and it ends. And it's just, it's just the way, the way it is. Just the way it is.
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Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
Always has been, always will be.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. I'm, I'm ready for that moment to come and I've got a list of those I'm going to take with me. So you're going to, I think, is the healthy way to look at it.
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Joe Getty
So vengeance on your way out the door is the way we picture it.
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Jack Armstrong
Of course. Of course. You know what clip we need that we used to play occasionally. Michael, ages ago was Schwarzenegger in what was his first big role? Conan the Barbarian.
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Joe Getty
Oh, gee.
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Jack Armstrong
Where he's talking about their greatest pleasure is to drive your enemies before you and hear the lamentations of their women. Right.
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Joe Getty
I've always loved the greatest pleasure.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I kind of like a sunny afternoon with a good friend and a cold drink. But, you know, teach their own.
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Joe Getty
You like that, huh? Drive your enemies before you and hear the lamentations of their women. Yes.
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Joe Getty
So, for instance, Elon and Vivek, their first target, $6.75 trillion of government waste. They're doing a deep dive into federal spending and have come up with some jaw dropping examples of waste. We got $1.3 billion that we're sending to dead people that we've known we've been sending to dead people for a while, but for some reason just can't stop the machinery of sending out checks.
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Jack Armstrong
Turns out Tyson was wrong. You keep getting government money after you're.
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Joe Getty
Dead, but last year $171 million went in benefits to prisoners that weren't supposed to go, 101 billion in improper Medicare that they know is improper but will continue again next year unless somebody steps in and stops it somehow.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, there's so much fraud. Yeah, let's try everybody. Hey America, Somebody might be slightly uncomfortable for a week. They might make a mistake. But can we try?
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We got a lot more on the way. Again, get the podcast if you miss an hour.
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