Get Your Chi Flowing

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Get Your Chi Flowing"

Date: May 11, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode weaves together a variety of timely topics, with the main narrative thread being critical scrutiny of government programs—especially California's new "free diapers for newborns" initiative. The hosts unpack how such policies often translate into bloated spending, serve political interests, and enrich connected nonprofits rather than truly supporting those in need. Other key segments cover school curriculum critiques, a bizarre diamond theft story, major geopolitical developments (Trump-Xi summit), the evolving nature of warfare (drones), and a fascinating exploration of acupuncture's potential scientific basis. The atmosphere is characteristically irreverent, skeptical, and sharp, punctuated by memorable one-liners and candid banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Teacher Appreciation and Sketch Comedy

• [02:48] Joe notes it's Teacher Appreciation Week and pivots to a witty thanks to "the greatest teacher of all time"—"Dad's belt"—eliciting lighthearted, dark humor.
• [03:20] Joe, a self-professed SNL fan, critiques the show's politically charged sketches, especially a recent one about Brett Kavanaugh, labeling it "disgusting on so many different levels" ([04:39] Jack, agreeing).
• Memorable quote:

  "You're taking one of the Supreme Court justices and running with the, he's a drunken gang rapist on Saturday Night Live for the opening. I thought that is—I almost wanted to turn it off." (Joe, [04:12])

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2. School Curriculum Critique

• [04:50] Joe and Jack vent about the inefficacy of many school requirements, such as memorizing state capitals and especially foreign language mandates.
• Joe fields a supportive listener text ([06:24]) from a Spanish teacher who agrees that language classes shouldn't be mandatory:

  "The class gets watered down when kids are forced to be there."

• Jack shares shock at how little language skill persists, even after years of study among high-achieving students ([06:48]).
• Both advocate for “tearing down the system” and “starting from scratch.”

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3. California’s Diaper Program Exposé

Main Segment: [07:55] – [16:33]

• The core of the episode is a critical analysis of California’s $20 million diaper giveaway.
• Joe outlines the math: The state spends 50 cents per diaper, despite bulk diapers costing 12–16 cents at Costco/Target. This means taxpayers overpay by 3–10x.
• Hosts argue the real aim is political image-building and funneling money to nonprofits, drawing a parallel to Gov. Newsom’s wife’s charity (which paid her and her film company millions).
• Jack:

  "Like with the diaper scam... it’s a feature, not a bug. The diaper program exists to make Gavin look good as a candidate and to funnel huge amounts of cash to his cronies. It doesn’t exist to put diapers in the hands of new moms." ([11:38])

• [15:20] Steve Hilton (guest clip) demonstrates in Target that diapers retail for a third the cost of what the state pays, underscoring the inefficiency and cronyism.

Notable quote:

"They could have just handed every low income new mom $100 cash and told her to go to Costco. She'd get more diapers, better ones if she wanted, and still have money left for formula, wipes, and whatever the hell else she actually needs." (Joe, [10:12])

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4. The Swallowed Diamonds Story

Segment: [19:53] – [23:08]

• A thief in Florida swallows $770,000 in Tiffany diamonds as police try to arrest him.
• The hosts riff on the logistics and inherent comedy of recovering stolen gems via natural processes.
• Quote:

  "Oddly, his excrement also contained two other earrings which were not part of the Tiffany haul. And nobody's quite sure how those got inside him." (Jack, [21:33])

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5. Trump-Xi Jinping Summit and Geopolitical Risks

Segment: [26:37] – [36:12]

• The ongoing war with Iran unexpectedly overshadows the previously planned AI-focused summit between Trump and Xi.
• [27:55] Senator Marco Rubio, in a played clip, insists stability over Taiwan is mutually beneficial:

  "The Chinese understand our position on that topic. We understand theirs. I think both countries understand...it is neither one of our interests to see anything destabilize happen in that part of the world."

• Jack and Joe discuss the likelihood (or lack thereof) that any president would truly defend Taiwan militarily.
• They highlight China's economic weaknesses and military ambitions—settling on skepticism that the summit will shift the balance, especially regarding Taiwan, trade, or AI.

Notable quote:

"Beijing will be happy to make pronouncements about responsible stewardship [in AI] and then pursue its own interests with little regard for norms or laws." (Jack, [32:01])

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6. Drones and the Evolution of Modern Warfare

Segment: [37:03] – [38:59]

• Joe recounts harrowing video of Ukrainian drones chasing soldiers, underscoring the new terror and inhumanity of drone warfare.
• Discussion of the rapid technological evolution of these weapons; the hosts reflect on the psychological impact for those targeted.

Quote:

"For some reason that's more terrifying than if it were a dude with a gun. Just the fact that it's just this nonhuman...it's like a nightmare." (Joe, [38:07–39:01])

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7. Science Behind Acupuncture & Rediscovering Qi

Segment: [43:32] – [47:59]

• Jack introduces scientific research suggesting the existence of a third circulatory system, the interstitium, which may explain how acupuncture works.
• Ancient Chinese medicine is vindicated: dye travels along meridian-like paths through the interstitium, not blood/lymph vessels.
• Joe remains skeptical about broader claims (e.g., for insomnia/anxiety), but is open to the idea of benefits for pain and physical ailments.
• Discussion notes the challenge that acceptance often comes bundled with unscientific "Eastern" practices, much like chiropractic care.

Quote:

"Those specific acupuncture points are within the same areas of connected tissue where fluid flows through the interstitium...When they injected dye, it slowly migrated up the arm along a meridian. This pathway...flows through the interstitium between the muscles." (Jack, [46:52])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "That's disgusting on so many different levels." (Jack, on SNL Kavanaugh sketch, [04:39])
• "We're onto something. This truly has to do with acupuncture." (Jack, on interstitium discoveries, [47:34])
• "I just wish we could tear it all down again. Erase our [curricula] and start from scratch." (Joe, [05:47])
• "If you had really high quality diamonds, you wouldn't need very many to be $770,000...Here's more than I want to defecate." (Joe, [22:21])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |---------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:48 | Opening, Teacher Appreciation, SNL critique | | 04:50 | School curriculum rant, foreign language debate | | 07:55 | California diaper program, nonprofit graft | | 15:20 | Steve Hilton exposes diaper pricing scam | | 19:53 | Swallowed diamonds story | | 26:37 | Trump-Xi meeting, Taiwan, Iran, China’s economic/military status | | 37:03 | Drone warfare in Ukraine | | 43:32 | Acupuncture, interstitium, scientific validation of qi/meridians |

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, skeptical, and fast-moving
• Blend of sharp social criticism and snarky humor
• Willing to engage with listeners, spotlight honest disagreement even among experts
• Frequent, vivid analogies and asides that ground complex issues in relatable terms

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For Further Listening

If you enjoy government accountability deep-dives mixed with skeptical commentary on both policy and modern life, this Armstrong & Getty episode is a quintessential listen—especially for the breakdown of the diaper program, the pragmatic skepticism toward education, and the entertaining science-meets-ancient-wisdom angle on acupuncture.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. This week was Teacher Appreciation Week. So thank you. Teacher Appreciation Week.

[Jack Armstrong]

So thank you to the greatest teacher of all time.

[Joe Getty]

Dad's belt. Want to take back the applause?

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So

[Joe Getty]

most of you probably don't watch Saturday Night Live. I watch it every week. I have since it first came on in 1975. For whatever reason, I like sketch comedy. I always have. And it's Saturday Night Live is so annoying because they do the political stuff that makes me insane and then they do sketch comedy like just all day. That's some good one. Saturday night of just regular, incredibly silly, no meaning to them whatsoever. Just sketch comedy. Which I've always loved. Going back to Monty Python. I mean, very Python esque sort of stuff that they had with Matt Damon and a couple of different things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Love it.

[Joe Getty]

But did you see the opening?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Unbelievable. So they've got Pete Heath at a bar drinking hard. Okay, fine. You know, he's got that hanging around his neck and all that sort of stuff. And he's the current sec Def on. But then they have Matt Damon doing this. Kavanaugh comes in and they joke about Kavanaugh getting drunk and you know, gang rape and various stuff like that. I thought, wow. I thought that had been thoroughly. At this point, there's, there's, there was no meat on that bone whatsoever. So you're taking one of the Supreme Court justices and running with the. He's a drunken gang rapist on Saturday Night Live for the opening. I thought that is. I almost wanted to turn it off. Thought that is just too much.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's disgusting on so many different levels.

[Joe Getty]

It really, really is. God dang it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Oh, and then bubbly, bubbly bubbles.

[Joe Getty]

That joke about teaching reminded me we got this text. So I was complaining before we get into the important news. I was complaining last week about. I feel like so much of the stuff that's in schools doesn't need to be there. It's a waste of time. If you are going to start a school, like erase everything from your mind and start a school. I don't Think a lot of the things that we do in every public school for every single kid, we would do. I just don't think anybody. What I think we ought to do, I think we ought to memorize all the state capitals. I don't think everybody raised their hand and think, you know, that's something we should all do everywhere in America. I don't think anybody would even think of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I know. This is your jihad.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's just an example.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, sure. I think if you watch the state curriculum guidelines being developed, you would have an aneurysm watching the various committees and activists and a woke crowd insisting on this and that and all agreeing, oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Joe Getty]

I just wish we could tear it all down again. Erase our. And start from scratch.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do we.

[Joe Getty]

What do we want kids to come out of school having learned to go out into the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And I, And I think. And so one of the ones I was banging on is this foreign language requirement. Nobody I know, like, can speak a word of whatever they were mandated to take, right? So it's. There's an hour of your day every single day, plus the homework you have to do on something that is a complete waste of time at the time when we know where we are in terms of reading proficiency, math proficiency, Incredib. Credibly low.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

We got this text from. I'm a high school Spanish teacher. I totally agree. It shouldn't be mandatory. Mandatory? The class gets watered down when kids are forced to be there. I hadn't even thought about it from that angle. So you got kids that maybe they would like to learn a foreign language, actually would try and maybe benefit from it. Now you have to water it down for all the people like my son were forced to be there that have no interest whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a good point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was shocked, shocked, shocked. I'll leave names out, but asking a couple of super achieving bright students in the latter stages of high school been taking Spanish in this case for several years, saying, can you ask them, you know, what time it is? Or how do. How do I tell him thanks for doing a good job? And they're like, I have no idea. What, what, how can that be?

[Joe Getty]

What do you mean?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how to say I'm sorry to some Spanish speaker?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay, I'm sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

I left that obviously important part out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like, how do I say thanks for doing a good job? They're like, gracias. I know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know that one too. But again, so tear it down. To the nuts and start completely over.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Never mind the utter perversion of the way they teach history.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, again, for the millionth time, I'm. I don't think there's any fixing our government schools. I think you need to just look at alternatives or inoculate your kids against the, the horrors of it.

[Joe Getty]

So let's get into a little bit of this story that came out over the weekend and we'll do some more of it later because we're gathering the audio. I want, I want some of the audio from various news coverages of this over the weekend that all got all excited about Gavin Newsom, Governor of California. Governor Newsom announces free diapers for California newborns. And I saw it on a couple of different news channels where it was just smiling. Oh, that would have helped me out when I had a baby. I know, me too.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's so generous. Right?

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. When new parents need help, when even just on the face of it, before you get into the details that we're about to get into, it's just wealth redistribution. That's all it is. The people that pay the taxes are buying diapers for people that don't have much money. But it's just another part of wealth redistribution which you're either for or you're not. But if you want to get into more of the specifics of it and it's. So here's a guy that was in the baby formula business and also the diaper business for a long time and he said, I know this baby to baby non profit. This is, there's a non profit involved.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, yes. Well, they're, they're, they're up to nothing. Nothing but goodness. They're not for profit. I can tell now.

[Joe Getty]

So I, I meant to say this at the beginning. If you don't live in California, whatever. This is a great lesson in what so many of these kind of programs, whatever state, city, county, you're in, in America, the way these work and the

[Jack Armstrong]

reason they actually exist.

[Joe Getty]

And I had another point.

[Martha Stewart]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

And it's the whole high cost good and you know, good intentions thing. Let's dive into the absolute grifting nonsense. Prepare to be shocked, writes this person who is in this industry and worked with the baby to baby nonprofit. California is about to spend $20 million of taxpayer money to give a hundred thousand newborns 400 diapers each through baby to baby. Do the math. A hundred thousand babies times 400 diapers equals 40 million diapers. 20 million divided by $20 million. With the 40. With the 40 million diapers, it's 50 cents a diaper that. The math is pretty obvious on that. Now, walk into any Costco in California and you can buy the exact same quality diapers for either 12 cents to 15 cents each.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

That's $48 to $60 for 400 diapers. So the state is paying between eight and 10 times more per diaper than a regular family buying in bulk, which when you have a baby, you buy in bulk. They could have just handed every low income new mom $100 cash and told her to go to Costco. She'd get more diapers, better ones if she wanted, and still have money left for formula wipes and whatever the hell else she actually needs. But nah, that wouldn't give Gavin and his connected nonprofit people running the show out there the opportunity to cut ribbons, take photos, do galas, and be friends with celebrities. And brag about the first in the nation program. Oh, that was part of the story everywhere it went.

[Jack Armstrong]

First.

[Joe Getty]

First time this has ever happened anywhere in the country. Gavin Newsom, Free diapers for newborns while skimming their cut for administration and partnerships. Because you're running it through a nonprofit. That's where the, the math comes in on these sorts of stuff is you, you give all that money to the nonprofit, it comes out the other end, you know, with the cost of the diaper, where'd all that money go in between? Well, that's a good question. We have this. I haven't confirmed this, and this was floating around on the Internet. Gavin Newsom's wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom. This is talking about her nonprofit. Just to give you an idea of how nonprofits work, that a word that should be from the English language, really a phrase anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

And keeping in mind that, like with the diaper scam and what you're about to say, as they say these days, it's a feature, not a bug. The diaper program exists to make Gavin look good as a candidate and to funnel huge amounts of cash to his cronies. It doesn't exist to put diapers in the hands of new moms. It exists to hand out that money.

[Joe Getty]

Right. So his wife is not running the diaper to diaper baby to baby or whatever that is, but to give you an idea of the way nonprofits can work, like the one that she has, she paid herself and her company $3.9 million from her gender justice charity, a third of its entire annual revenue. IRS filings show $1.8 million salary to her 2.1 million to the, to her for profit film company for school funded

[Jack Armstrong]

documentaries about gender bending madness, by the

[Joe Getty]

way, not about justice. That was in quotes. I should have said. This is in quotes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I see.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, Gender justice is in quotes as in, yeah, justice if you're into the whole transit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gender justice. What the hell?

[Joe Getty]

But, so $3.9 million went to the charity. She took an almost $2 million salary and the rest of that millions went to her film company, which is a for profit business. So paid ridiculous. Way more than anybody was ever gonna pay her to make these films that they then showed in schools. Do you see how this works?

[Jack Armstrong]

My, I've seen figures like that and I believe that's over a few years. I could be wrong on that, but the point remains. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. I just don't. Well, I think for the grace of God, we're gonna teach kids radical gender theory and you know, postmodern and gonna get paid for it by the taxpayers.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's, that's an extra layer of ick and anger that you put on top of it. But even if it was, you know, something good, teaching kids how to ride bikes or something good, the fact that you call it a non profit and pay yourself a two million dollar salary and then the other millions go to your for profit company, even if, like I said, if you're making movies on bike safety, I still would hate it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? It's still graft, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's still corrupt.

[Jack Armstrong]

You laugh. I laugh. Yeah. Because nobody cares. You should laugh, Gavin. You've done it successfully and are not at risk.

[Joe Getty]

Do we want to after we tell you about Rough Greens. Let Steve Hilton explain the diaper scam. Yeah, it's. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

So Steve Hilton, he's a Republican at the top of some polls running for governor in California, explaining how this whole diaper thing works.

[Steve Hilton]

All right, so Gavin Newsom is taking $20 billion of your money to send 100,000 babies. 400 diapers. That works out at 50 cents per diaper. We just came into Target to check out what you could buy it for in the store.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here you go.

[Steve Hilton]

Just check this one out here. 1 62, $26. That works out at 16 cents per diaper. Gavin Newsom's diapers are three times more expensive. This isn't even Costco. Why is it three times more expensive for Gavin to make money? And that is what is wrong with California. Instead of just cutting taxes so you can afford diapers and sending it out in this ridicul bureaucratic scheme.

[Jack Armstrong]

Apparently there was a BS bomb in the middle of that that was not caught. And thank God we dumped it because people would have driven off the road and crashed and died having heard a word they use every day.

[Joe Getty]

Kids would have cried.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Families would dissolve. They would have had to cancel school.

[Jack Armstrong]

Grannies would have died on the spot clutching their chest. I know, bs. This is my campaign for the rest of my life. The BS words should be allowed on the air. It probably is, honestly.

[Joe Getty]

But whether you heard it there or not, Steve Hilton was at a regular store and the diapers were a third as much. You go to Costco, we're talking eight to ten times the price.

[Jack Armstrong]

But then the cronies don't get bought off.

[Joe Getty]

That is unbelievable.

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[Joe Getty]

It's actually completely believable. We got more on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Open your mouth. You're not opening your mouth. You're about to get paid. Open your mouth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Open your mouth.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, you're about to get paid. You better open your mouth. Open his mouth and start chewing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he's still trying to swallow.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I'd seen the video of that. So that's a guy arrested after swallowing $770,000 worth of diamonds. So it sounds like they nab him, he puts him in his mouth. The cops are yelling at him to open his mouth. You're gonna get taste. Open your mouth. You're gonna get taste. And then, apparently, he swallowed them. Is that what happened? Michael, have you seen the video?

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't seen the video. Yes, indeed. I've got this story from the smoking gun.com charmingly entitled the man who Pooped Tiffany Diamonds. So they're about to try him.

[Joe Getty]

So how they get him out of you? They just wait? They just lock you in a cell and wait. They just feed you Papa John's Pizza and wait.

[Jack Armstrong]

Methods differ region to region, but. So he was yanked out of his vehicle. He threw the diamonds in his mouth, swallowed him, and subsequently asked cops, am I going to be charged with what's in my stomach? Later, he mused, I probably should have thrown him out the window. Yeah, probably. Probably so. Prison scan revealed that Gilder's stomach contained foreign objects. About two weeks after police guard put on police guard at a Florida hospital, he passed the stolen Tiffany merchandise. Two weeks?

[Joe Getty]

Is that how long it takes for something to pass through you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oddly, as if this isn't odd enough, oddly, his excrement also contained two other earrings which were not part of the Tiffany hall. And nobody's quite sure how those got inside him.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a second. Right? Well, is he saying, look, I stole those diamonds and swallowed them? I have no idea where those earrings came from.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is weird. You planted those big hoops.

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[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be uncomfortable recalling that he's been offered a negotiated plea deal. Blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

We're all wondering, how many, how big a bulk of diamonds are we talking about? Because if you had really high quality diamonds, you wouldn't need very many to be $770,000. Probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

I see three.

[Joe Getty]

Here's a more than I want to defecate.

[Jack Armstrong]

A doctor holding his blue gloved hand out showing three large diamonds, I mean they are if it's seven hundred and

[Joe Getty]

seventy noise that you would make if you had to pass those to give us an idea of how big they are

[News Reporter]

now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't do that. You know, I would dearly like to, but my better judgment says is it a.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God, help me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, but I'm not good at diamonds. I'm not very blingy, but I would guess these are multiple carrots, like three carat earrings. I mean big old wearing. They're like NBA star earrings.

[Joe Getty]

And that's a good plan he came up with though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he was under pressure. He didn't expect to be pulled over.

[Joe Getty]

Swallowed them in front of the cops and then I. And you know what they'll do? They'll let me go, I'll be able to poop them out. Then I will turn them into cash very easily, of course, and a live a life of Riley.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. And then was he taunting the cops when he said, am I going to be charged with what's in my stomach?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, dude, open your mouth or we're going to tase you. They should have just tased him.

[Jack Armstrong]

They probably did. Yeah. So Xi Jinping and Donald J. Trump meeting this week. Major, major summit meeting. We'll preview it for you coming up in moments.

[Joe Getty]

You steal the hope diamond like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're going to Armstrong and Getty.

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[News Reporter]

in China a short time, landing Wednesday, leaving on Friday. But in that short period of time, the White House is hoping to show a lot of progress on a number of different fronts. Iran is likely to dominate the agenda as China has both political and economic interests in the Middle East. As the Wall Street Journal points out, President Xi also wants the fighting to stop as Middle east turmoil restricts China's oil supply and shrinks the country's ability to buy Chinese goods.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's interesting, since this trip has been on the books for a long time that the war with Iran will dominate the conversation because originally when it was scheduled, that wasn't gonna be a topic at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it seems to me that's an opportunity since China's fairly desperate might overstate it maybe not fairly desperate to get the flow of oil going through the Strait. Again, a lot of folks, including the Wall Street Journal editorial Border, are concerned about Xi Jinping offering X and Y and flattering Trump and getting him to change policy on Taiwan. I see in the next clip Marco Rubio addresses that.

[News Reporter]

Play that, Michael, among other issues, the future of Taiwan, where the US Sells billions of dollars worth of weapons. And while China sees Taiwan as its own, the US Leaves its label a bit more ambiguous.

[Marco Rubio]

The Chinese understand our position on that topic. We understand theirs. I think both countries understand that it is neither one of our interests to see anything destabilize happen in that part of the world. We don't need any destabilizing events to occur with regards to Taiwan or anywhere in the Indo Pacific. And I think that's to the mutual benefit of both the United States and the Chinese.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'm glad to hear him say that. He's been in Trump's ear clearly on this because like I said, the Wall street editorial board, Wall Street Journal said the Venus fly trap Mr. Xi is setting for Mr. Trump is on Taiwan. She wants veto power power over US Arms sales to the island, pressing the US to formally oppose, in quotes, Taiwanese independence as opposed to our current posture of not supporting it. She will argue the tweak is of no great importance to you, but it's super importance to me. And they think he's going to say to Trump, look, you're bringing peace to another region, which of course is a crop crock of crap.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. That would be a good angle to go with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, Trump is flatterable. Some of the other stuff at stake, trade, technology, Iran. Obviously on trade, they say the best outcome may be ratifying the status quo truce on tariffs with a promise from Beijing not to hold the world's rare earth supply hostage again, as it did after the whole unfortunate tariff fracas last year. Let's see. Xi's oh, Xi's weak economy, which I want to get into in a second, is an incentive for him to cooperate because they desperately need exports. And he'll probably make more hollow promises about buying more farm goods. The soybeans, they're gonna buy a zillion tons of soybeans. It won't happen. Aircraft and more. And then the rare earth's wrangling. Be interesting to see if anything comes out of this. Oh, AI. I guess there are gonna be a lot of discussions about AI Arms control, quote unquote. And the best deterrent, they write, is US Dominance on models and Computing power, but that Beijing isn't far behind, particularly because they've been engaging in, as usual, industrial scale theft of America's AI technology.

[News Reporter]

Don't trust China.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I love the, the whole angle of them talking about AI, which was going to be the number one topic prior to the war in Iran, which now apparently is the number one topic now. The Wall Street Journal, which has many articles about this, has one paragraph that says Trump struggles to bring the war to a close on his terms have driven him to seek Xi's support. But the president analyst said should expect little from Beijing on Iran because China's strategy is to appear useful, appear useful in the conflict with Iran while avoiding Middle east entanglement of its own. Therefore, Xi couldn't end the war if he wanted, and he almost certainly doesn't want to because he likes us being bogged down and using a lot of our missiles and all that sort of stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I could absolutely say me hear him saying, yeah, the whole gas thing hurts, the oil thing hurts, but you know, man, they're squandering in their arms in a big hurry.

[Joe Getty]

What Senator Kelly, that's the astronaut from Arizona.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Mark Kelly.

[Joe Getty]

He was on one of the talk shows yesterday and you know, he, he hates Trump and he's a Democrat and he's got to present this as poorly as he can. But God, if he's anywhere close to accurate on where we are on a, various munitions stores, which we've talked about a lot, how degraded we are, how much, how much of our stuff we've used in Iran and how long it will take to replace it and how if we got into a long war with China, for instance, over Taiwan or anything like that, we just couldn't do it right now. I hope that's not true. I sure hope that's not true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, you'd hope. I have my problems with Mark Kelly. I think he's a patriot. He's just misguided on some things. But, but, and yeah, I know he's, he's throwing some political bombs lately. Hey, one more thought on AI. I like this. And this is all you need to know about China. Don't expect much from AI. Arms control and the best deterrent is US dominance, blah, blah, blah. Beijing will be happy to make pronouncements about responsible stewardship and then pursue its own interests with little regard for norms or laws. Yeah, absolutely true. And then this. Another perspective from the Wall Street Journal. Xi's China dazzling technology, milit muscle and an economic muss mess. I'm sorry I'm reading ahead. An economic mess. Government pours money into AI, electric cars and military power while consumer confidence sags and the job market grows bleak. So it dominates global manufacturing. Its technology pioneers are closing the gap with Silicon Valley. Yet big parts of its economy are a mess. A colossal property bust has destroyed trillions of dollars in wealth. Consumer confidence has been gutted and the job market has grown bleak. Disconnect shows how she has made China's security a priority over its economy. He's steering hundreds of billions of dollars into pursuing self sufficiency in AI, semiconductors and the other stuff that we mentioned while holding back on economic reforms that would help create more jobs and lift the country's middle class. That's because he's a communist. He's an actual communist? Yeah. It's impossible to know how serious their struggles are. We've talked about their demographic challenges, which are absolutely devastating because they have no meaningful immigration except for like practically slave laborers. But boy, there's a lot at stake in this summit this week. It'll be interesting to see what comes from it. I've got a feeling about it.

[Joe Getty]

I suppose there's not much chance we're gonna really ramp up the war while he's in China dealing with Xi.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because he's gonna be busy or.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or just to keep things a little cool. I don't know either.

[Joe Getty]

I think it'd be busy.

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[Joe Getty]

I think, I don't think Trump would defend Taiwan. I'm not sure any president would actually. I'm not sure Barack would or Biden would or Kamala or Gavin or whoever. I just, I just don't know if we would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Obama would issue half assed sanctions and hold talks, but I don't disagree with you. Well, they would defend it, but not with, you know, military means not going

[Joe Getty]

to go to war with China.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good, that's a good phrase. Would we go to war?

[Joe Getty]

And I don't think we would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would we?

[Joe Getty]

And then we live in a different world where China controls the flow of everything on that side of the planet. And that's just the way things are. We control things on this side, you control things on that side. And that's the world going forward.

[Jack Armstrong]

Certainly until the Taiwanese were completely pacified because I could see them pulling in Iran saying, no, you sail past us, we're going to sink you to the bottom of the sea. Just as a pressure tactic.

[Joe Getty]

But I just think about the way the world acted when China started to take over Hong Kong completely illegally and everybody said you shouldn't do that. You really shouldn't do that. It's really awful that this is happening. And then it just happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, how about Crimea or Georgia or Ukraine? Multiple times in Ukraine, some serious foot stamping and strongly worded letters were sent. Now we and the Euros increasingly have been arming Ukraine, helping them. But is their will to spend blood and serious amounts of treasure to resist that sort of 19th century, whatever John Kerry said, act in the 21st century, is there that much will? No, probably not. I mean, even after we guaranteed Ukraine's security, if they gave up their nukes, whoops.

[Joe Getty]

And Biden kept saying, we'll be with you to the end, whatever that meant. I'm not going to actually send you the good stuff, but we'll be with you at the end. As I mentioned at the beginning of the show, I've seen a number of analysts saying Russia's actually losing at this point. Ukraine is winning. Russia is losing. But I saw this video yesterday and you know, who knows when any video you see is in the Modern world, but it certainly looked real. It didn't have that AI look to it. It was. It was portrayed as some Russians running from Ukrainian drones. And God, that looked terrifying. They're driving in a car out on a road and then the drones come. You hear that sound of the drones coming after you? God, I'll bet there's a lot of places on planet earth right now where that is like the most terrifying sound that you can imagine is the sound of those drones coming after you. Anyway, they got out of their car because the zone, the drones were coming after their jeep. Then they got out and ran. And each and the individuals running were being chased by Ukrainian drones. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was going to say, all I can think of is open all the doors and run in different directions. Good luck, Yuri.

[Joe Getty]

That's what they did.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And they're all just running as fast as they could and they're. They're just in this empty field and they're breathing hard and they're trying to carry all this stuff, the drones going over their heads. And I thought that would be like the most. For some reason that's more terrifying than if it were a dude with a gun. Just the fact that it's just this non human. I don't know if that's an uncanny valley thing or whatever that is, but. But just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, in the knowledge that. God dang it, now I'm going to die tired. I might as well just stand still.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's the spirit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, what are you going to outrun a drone? Are you there, Jesse Owens? Usain Bolt.

[Joe Getty]

What, he's just going to stand there and say, I don't want to die tired?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, exactly. I could either die, you know, refreshed here or tired over there. Bring it on.

[Joe Getty]

I think you just have the feeling like, even if this one doesn't shoot me, they got a thousand more that are. Keep chasing me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no kidding. It's like a nightmare.

[Joe Getty]

It really is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And that's the future of warfare and is we learned on 60 Minutes a couple of weeks ago. And then I was hearing again over the weekend, they adjust the software on these things on like a daily basis. I mean, they're getting better 24 hours at a time. These drones are improving.

[Jack Armstrong]

Crazy.

[Joe Getty]

It is crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you see the pooter said the other day that the war will be over soon or the special military action or whatever he calls it? He said it should be over soon. Was that like a major signal that he's gonna claim victory? And I mean, he can't keep asking for territory he hasn't been able to conquer. I don't think the Ukrainians have any interest in a let us up. We've had enough giveaway and it's now

[Joe Getty]

lasted longer than their fight against the Nazis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct that they just celebrated with their giant victory date. Well, their less giant victory day parade.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that is something. I've got the latest in eating contests if you want that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a fascinating note from Science is I'm the sophisticated one about why they think acupuncture works and it's reading

[Joe Getty]

and all kinds of other stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God, you're so western belligerent. It's racism folks.

[Joe Getty]

The ugly lighting scented candles to drive

[Jack Armstrong]

out crystals, laying crystals on your nipples.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes, yes, all that sort of stuff. No science.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Got a bunch of stuff to get to. In hour three, we'll do some news for dumb people around the hantavirus. So if you're dumb, stay tuned for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just like Covid and has killed 300,000 people. If you can't stay tuned, that's what you need to know. Why did we get acupuncture like 25 years ago? Do you remember that? Yes.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think I've ever had.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think. I'm pretty sure both of us did. I can't dare. I think I was having back spasms or something, but I thought it was part of some station thing we did.

[Joe Getty]

You had gone to Thailand for vacation by yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

The shots weren't working and they convinced me that needles would. Anyway, I've had it done once. I don't have any memory if I. If I thought it did me any good whatsoever. But I'm gonna back up a little bit.

[Joe Getty]

You know, now that you mentioned, I think maybe I have had Acupuncture.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember.

[Joe Getty]

Have I ever been in the circus. Just wondering if there's other things I don't remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yes, there are, but. So everybody knows about the two systems in the human body that circulate fluids, specifically, and that's your. The lymphatic system, which was discovered in the 1600s. Before the circulatory system, weirdly enough. And six years later, they described the cardiovascular system which pumps blood through the arteries, veins and capillaries, etc. It all happened within six years of each other in 1622.

[Joe Getty]

Isn't that interesting?

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, so scientists now think they've come across a third, and here's a third system, and here's how it happened. It was just a few years ago they were examining the skin of people with tattoos, and the researchers saw in biological that the ink particles had traveled deeper into the body than they expected, through the skin into an interstitial space between it and from that space into the fascia, which is the connective material below that. And the discovery of a hidden pathway between two layers of tissue that weren't known to connect in this way was kind of a surprise. But they say it has far reaching implications for our understanding the human body and our health. Because that interstitial space doesn't just exist between the skin and fascia or fascia, Researchers discovered there are spaces like it throughout the body, forming pathways between organs and allowing fluid cells and molecules to move between them before re entering the lymphatic and cardiovascular systems. They're calling this interconnected network the interstitium. I've got a longer story about it, but it gets a little technical. But here's where we get humbled in the west, friends. The idea of a third circulatory system will not come as any surprise to anyone who practices traditional Chinese medicine. One professor told the researcher, quote, this knowledge is actually quite ancient. It's something that other systems of medicine have been offering for a long time, but they didn't have microscopes. Mention the interstitium to an acupuncturist and you'll probably get an eye roll like, yeah, no kidding. Acupuncture works. Of course, the studies are clear. People seek it out for treatment of all sorts of ills, from chronic pain and migraines to anxiety and insomnia. The discovery of the interstitium may help us better understand how it works. Then they get into the traditional Chinese

[Joe Getty]

medicine and insomnia, anxiety seems like a stretch, but that other stuff I certainly could believe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, traditional Chinese medicine says that acupuncture is a way to balance the flow of energy known as qi through one of the body's 12 main meridians. Acupuncturists insert these thin needles into specific points along those meridians to enhance the flow of qi. You gotta get your qi flowing. Those specific acupuncture points are within the same areas of connected tissue where fluid flows through the interstitium, researchers found. And when they injected dye into acupuncture points on the forearms of volunteers, it slowly migrated up the arm along a meridian. This pathway doesn't go in the veins. It doesn't go superficially. Instead, it flows through the interstitium between the muscles. Quote, when I saw that, I said, we're onto something. This truly has to do with acupuncture.

[Joe Getty]

My cheese all jammed up down by my lumbar. Got a backup.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's your diet.

[Joe Getty]

Probably my diet, yeah. The problem with this is, I mean, that all makes sense. And I could believe the problem is that anytime you get into the Eastern medicine thing, it comes with a. It's a package deal with a lot of people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, it comes with a bunch

[Joe Getty]

of other really annoying crap that they're going to tell you about. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It reminds me of chiropractic a little bit in that if you concede, okay, it does help back problems in a lot of cases you've kind of walked in the door of. It can cure acne, earaches, and saggy

[Joe Getty]

eyelids and everything else. And who's gonna tell you it doesn't? Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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