Get Your Cosmic Grove On!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – “Get Your Cosmic Grove On!”

Date: September 2, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty navigates a wide range of current events and personal stories with their trademark blend of irreverence and insight. The main themes include reflections on travel (especially Joe’s recent trip to England), commentary on violent crime and media narratives, the persistence of "woke" and progressive ideology in schools, U.S. foreign policy and global power dynamics—especially concerning China, and a candid discussion of gender ideology featuring a somber interview clip with Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson. Interspersed are engaging tangents on food, books, and the universal constancy of human complaints.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Labor Day Crime Stats and Media Narratives

[03:29–04:13]

• Chicago shootings: Jack shares stats—58 shot, 8 dead over Labor Day in Chicago, contrasting this with last year's higher toll, and notes the media's focus on criticizing Trump over potential National Guard involvement.

  "The headline for mainstream media is how dare Trump send the National Guard?" – Jack Armstrong [03:29]

• Joe points out that the idea of “crime is down” relies on a very selective perspective:

  “Nobody thinks that way but lefty advocates and the media.” – Joe Getty [04:00]

2. Travel Tales: England, Stonehenge, and Reflections on History

[04:13–12:23]

• Joe's England trip: Joe details his walking adventures in London and Cambridge, praising their efficient train system (“the next train was literally in one minute” [05:49]).
• Tourism and British economy: Britain is densely packed with global tourists, he notes—possibly even more so because of current US political tensions.
• King’s College Chapel, Cromwell, and Art Destruction: Visiting King’s College and its immense stained glass leads to musings on Cromwell's iconoclasm and historical parallels to the Taliban:

  "He was also a Puritan and very much like the Taliban... they literally shot the faces off of...religious statuary." – Joe Getty [07:33]

• Stonehenge Mystique: A sense of awe at humanity’s long fascination with Stonehenge, despite no one really knowing its purpose.

  "I did stand there feeling a bit of awe... people keep coming back to this spot and trying to get some sort of cosmic groove on..." – Joe Getty [09:13]

• Roman Baths and Human Nature: Most ancient offerings “to the goddess” were complaints about mundane theft—proof that humans haven’t changed much.

  “The oldest known writing on Earth was like, dude, what are you trying to pull here?” – Joe Getty [12:12]

3. Global Power Struggles & US Policy

[13:19–15:35; 19:56–32:47]

• Venezuela & Hemisphere Influence: Satirical analysis of Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro’s “over-the-top” warnings about US naval presence, poking fun at his hyperbole ("Fat Maduro, the communist scumbag dictator kleptocrat...") and referencing Ian Bremmer’s prediction of possible US military strikes [13:49–14:57].
• China-led Global Summit: Jack and Joe note the significance of recent summits involving China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, India, etc., and muse about a shifting world order:

  "That era is over. And they might be right. I'm not looking forward to it." – Jack Armstrong [28:03]

• China's Infrastructure & Nationalism: Admiration for China's engineering feats and rapid construction is mingled with concerns about anti-Japan propaganda and "stirring up nationalism" through film and media.

  "They're really whipping up the nationalism, anti-US, anti-Japan hate..." – Jack Armstrong [31:01]

4. US Cultural Trends: Education, Wokeness, and National Self-Perception

[32:06–36:32]

• Joe laments that while China is instilling patriotism, “we're teaching our children to hate their country and to believe that it probably ought to be torn down” [32:06].
• Land Acknowledgments and Pronouns in Schools: Jack’s “land acknowledgment” and pronoun form story highlights the expansion of progressive education protocols in public schools.

  "Who benefits? Is there one human being whose life is made even slightly better by a land acknowledgment?" – Jack Armstrong [35:45]

5. Gender Ideology & The 'Woke Mind Virus' Debate

[20:10–24:44]

• Elon Musk’s Family & Gender Transition Crisis: The hosts play a revealing clip where Elon Musk (with Jordan Peterson) discusses feeling manipulated into Grünfeld’s transition and the devastation that followed:

  "So my son Xavier is dead. Killed by the woke mind virus." – Elon Musk [23:39] “You work on these kids forever... trying to convince them that... they can change their sex. Then you tell the parents if you don't do this, the kid will kill themselves.” – Joe Getty [24:29]

• The hosts express profound concern for how progressive institutions approach gender transition among minors.

6. Human Nature: Universal Complaint & Enduring Grievance

[12:23–13:19]

• Wry humor emerges in recounting how humanity’s oldest writings—whether from ancient baths or cuneiform tablets—are, in essence, formal complaints.

7. Books, Art, and the Value of Difficulty

[36:32–47:42]

• Jack and Joe share thoughts on novels and the challenge/enjoyment of reading complex works like Martin Amis’s London Fields and James Joyce’s Ulysses.

  "I had to look up one to two words, virtually every page." – Joe Getty on Amis [37:21] "I'm loving it. I'm like absolutely freaking loving it. Probably the best thing I've ever read." – Jack Armstrong on Ulysses [39:10]

8. Food, Health, and American Excess

[39:24–40:36]

• Jack marvels at the calorie counts in Southern food:

  "2990 is the calories... 3,000 calories for one plate of food. Barbaric." – Jack Armstrong [39:58]

9. Sports and Culture

[43:59–45:24]

• Brief discussion on Amazon's policy against beer ads and the NFL expanding Thursday Night Football, including a game in Brazil.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the unchanging nature of humanity:

  "The oldest writing on Earth is 'I want to talk to the manager.' That is really interesting." – Jack Armstrong [13:19]

• On the shift in world power:

  "They want to change the world where the United States doesn’t make all the rules anymore… That era is over. And they might be right. I’m not looking forward to it." – Jack Armstrong [28:03]

• On modern US education:

  “They’re teaching their kids to love their country to the point of laying down their lives for it. And if they win, things are not going to be better here.” – Jack Armstrong [32:47]

• On “woke” education:

  "Who benefits? Is there one human being whose life is made even slightly better by a land acknowledgment?" – Jack Armstrong [35:45]

• On reading challenging literature:

  "I had to look up one to two words, virtually every page." – Joe Getty on London Fields [37:21] "I'm loving it... Probably the best thing I've ever read." – Jack Armstrong on Ulysses [39:10]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Labor Day Crime Commentary: [03:29]
• Reflections on England & Stonehenge: [04:13–12:23]
• Venezuela Naval Tensions & Global Influence: [13:19–15:35]
• Upcoming China Summit & Shifting World Order: [19:56–32:47]
• Elon Musk Interview Clip – Gender Crisis: [22:32–24:44]
• Land Acknowledgments & Progressive Education: [32:47–36:32]
• Book Talk: Martin Amis & Ulysses: [36:32–47:42]
• American Excess - Food Segment: [39:24–40:36]
• NFL, Amazon, and Football Culture: [43:59–45:24]
• Final Thoughts: [48:13–49:19]

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Episode Tone & Style

The tone oscillates between gallows humor, thoughtful historical and cultural observation, and sincere concern or frustration with political and social trends. Jack and Joe’s banter is sharp, candid, and often self-deprecating. Their focus on the theme of how little people change over centuries ties together many otherwise disparate topics, from ancient complaints to modern political correctness and global geopolitics.

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Conclusion

“Get Your Cosmic Grove On!” is classic Armstrong & Getty: a blend of world-weary skepticism, humor, and genuine curiosity about the way history, politics, and culture intersect in everyday life. Longtime listeners will appreciate the deep dives into both serious and trivial current events, while newcomers get an immediate sense of the hosts’ style, perspective, and wit.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. We should bring this story back up again later. So the Chicago Police Department has updated the numbers from Chicago. 58 shot, eight dead. That's the total from the Labor Day weekend in Chicago. 58 shot, eight dead. And the headline for mainstream media is how dare Trump send the National Guard?

[Joe Getty]

Well, crime's down, Jack. There were 71 shot and 11 dead last year. So nobody thinks that way but lefty advocates and the media.

[Jack Armstrong]

So more on that later. The scale was very cruel to me this morning. I lost all discipline over my little vacation that I did while Joe was in England. Like all discipline, like I, I'd forgot that it was a thing, apparently.

[Joe Getty]

Although calories, like money, don't exist on vacation. They're imaginary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although I did pass at Cracker Barrel. They had a chicken, fried chicken with like gravy, mashed potatoes, you know, that sort of meal that the calories according to the menu was 1930 calories.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's a big boy meal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. 2000 calories in one meal. Yeah, something. Congratulations, Uncle Herschel.

[Joe Getty]

As I mentioned earlier, is that the guy's name on the Cracker Barrel?

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess. And again, I didn't know anybody who had ever heard of that before in their lives. And that's the big controversy you're taking away, Uncle Herschel.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. Bunch of crackers eating on a barrel. That's what I say. Anyway. Yeah, I discovered, as I mentioned earlier in the show, that if you walk five to seven miles every single day, you can eat and drink whatever you want. And that's what we did in London town. We took two day trips. The second one was to Cambridge, which was absolutely terrific.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about their train system there? So fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we. We only used it late in the week because we walked everywhere, but. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. We picked up the tube at Oxford, Circ, took it to King's Cross, then transferred quite smoothly to the Great Northern Line to Cambridge. Oh, so great.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you're so efficient. Why can't we have that in California to get around?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. At one point, a couple of guys were running to catch a train and the door shut just before they could get on. And I said, ah, poor bastards. And then I looked up the next train was literally in one minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

One minute. Yeah, yeah, it was something. It was great. So, anyway, Cambridge was great. It's. It's a really cool, historic town. Although, like, everywhere, by the afternoon, it was overrun by throngs of tourists.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Everywhere we went, just. And part of it is people aren't coming to the US because they're angry at Trump over the tariff thing. But, yeah, it was just amazing if. If there was no tourism in Britain, I think the place would dry up and go away. It was just astonishing how many humans were everywhere. The highlight in Cambridge, I got a really nice T shirt that says Cambridge University. It's kind of a fancy T shirt, like, well made, because I'm hoping people think I went there because it sounds really classy, but we visited the chapel at King's College, which has the largest collection of stained glass in Europe. It's, you know, it's. It's your giant church with the most amazing stained glass I've ever seen in my life. Partly because Oliver Cromwell, who, you know, I thought was some sort of crusader for democracy as opposed to kings, he was also a puritan and very much like the Taliban when they took over in Afghanistan, they were so anti any idolatry, they literally shot the faces off of, like, religious statuary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Statues. That's a fancy word for statues. Or they, like, would. Would the equivalent of sandblast, you know, the. The features off of these ancient and beautiful pieces of art. And this Cromwell character, he had all the stained glass, like, everywhere smashed.

[Jack Armstrong]

This Cromwell character, he was a bastard.

[Joe Getty]

But he had, like, all the stained glass smashed out of churches because he thought it was id. Idolatry. But he left this intact because beloved King Henry VI had started it and he knew he didn't because Henry VI ended up being a saint anyway, and everybody, like, loved him. And so you didn't. No matter what you thought, you didn't undo what he did because it was just too dangerous politically. So he left all those stained glass and it's just unbelievably beautiful. That was the second day trip. The first day trip was to Stonehenge and Bath. There was a bit of a rain shower when we were in bath. I mentioned to Judy, we're taking a shower, we're having a shower in bath. She looked at me like, you know, you could give that a vacation if you want. That sort of observation, sort of a play on words. Yes, the irony, Michael. The irony at the heart of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jeez.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, but Stonehenge was quite a trip from London, but I'm glad we did it. It's.

[Jack Armstrong]

I skipped Stonehenge when I was in England for whatever reason. I don't remember. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

There's too much to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Big tall rocks. Is that right?

[Joe Getty]

Super big tall rocks arranged carefully by ancient hands to do something and they.

[Jack Armstrong]

Still don't know why.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the, the guide who we're talking to said, get used to the phrase we still don't know because that's, that's. And we never will. The Stonehenge story, although it certainly is aligned with the, the winter and summer solstices. So the light, it's, it's a timekeeping device of some sort, but built, you know, thousands of years ago. And one of the first things you learn is that it was changed a couple of times, the arrangement of rocks of various sizes over the course of 500 years. And you think, oh, from 3,500 B.C. to 3,000 B.C. then you realize, wait a minute, people have been coming here and rearranging these rocks for whatever purpose because it was important to them. Like important enough to spend incredible amounts of effort in the ancient world for thousands of years. And I'm not prone to weird psychic feelings of I got in tune with Mother Earth and the Druids or whatever, but I did stand there feeling a bit of awe about the fact that for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, people keep coming back to this spot and trying to get some sort of cosmic groove on, get your cosmic groove on of whatever sort they thought was appropriate. But, but it was kind of, it was kind of beautiful and heavy and mystical and weird and I could see how the soft headed sort would, you know, end up becoming a Druid or what have you. But it was, it's, it's an amazing place. You know, I'd go, I didn't change my life or anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

I always have those sets when I'm in those really great Big old churches like they got in England. You sit in there and it's, you know, they built that thing, whatever, 800 years ago. And you think the thousands and thousands of people praying for all the different things going on in their lives, just like your life today. Sick kid. You know, get a job. Whatever it is, it's. It's something.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that reminds me. I gotta find the picture of it. They have examples of. We visited the Roman baths at Bath. That was where there was a rain shower. Michael, did I tell you that story? Yeah, it was very amusing. Anyway, they have. They had a tradition then. You would like scratch out a message to the goddess and throw it in the. The baths is like an offering and the goddess would intercede on your behalf. Right. Cool. All of it, virtually all of it, was bitching about. Somebody had stolen my cloak or somebody stole my best spoon. And I think it's Vesuvius Jones. I'm pretty sure it's him. If it's him, would you punish the crap out of him for me, please? Because I can't prove it, but I think it was him.

[Jack Armstrong]

My best spoon.

[Joe Getty]

It was all stuff like that. It was all griping about stuff that got ripped off of all the spoons.

[Jack Armstrong]

You have to take that one.

[Joe Getty]

I got nothing but my crappy, My everyday spoons. It's embarrassing. Or occasionally, you know, this. This bastard took my girlfriend. Punish him if you get a chance. That sort of thing. A lot of griping. Which reminds me at the British Museum, which has the greatest collection of like the very dawn of history, when people start writing things down. Like the oldest writings that exist on Earth, they have a lot of them there and they're thousands of years old. And it's really interesting. The single oldest piece of writing they have, if, if I recall correctly, is a complaint that you shipped me the wrong grade of copper. I ordered the class B copper. This is class C copper. The oldest known writing on Earth was like, dude, what are you trying to pull here?

[Jack Armstrong]

The oldest writing on Earth is. I want to talk to the manager. That is really interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And the other oldest writing on Earth is. Some bastard took my bike. Human beings, oh my God, we haven't changed at all. No, no, you know, I'm sorry I went off at the mouth a little bit. I intended to talk about our upcoming naval war with Venezuela.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right, yeah, that's another interesting story. Sending warships to, you know, countries in our hemisphere.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. All about, excuse me, the drug cartels and that sort of thing. This is my favorite part of that. Story Fat Maduro, the, the communist scumbag dictator kleptocrat who runs Venezuela these days. He said of the US Navy presence. Venezuela is confronting the biggest threat that has been seen on our continent in the last 100 years. A situation like this has never been seen. I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. You got to pick one of those. You can't say, you know, if some dog walks into the, you know, your yard, it's 25ft at the shoulder, it's an enormous dog. You can't say this is the biggest dog that has been seen in the last 100 years. Because people are thinking must have been some big ass dog like 120 years. But then you say, yes, it's the biggest dog ever. No, it's one or the other, Nicholas. You gotta get better at your blood running through the streets. Arab style threats. It's just not good at it. Ian Bremmer seems dope.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ian Bremmer predicts an actual military strike on Venezuela at some point from the U.S. really? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I haven't been following that except, you know, glancing at the headlines.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wouldn't that be something getting back into that sphere of influence thing like we're gonna run our hemisphere because China's gonna be running their hemisphere.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, and, and that aspect of it, I don't hate. A more robust engagement in South America in a lot of different ways. Let's, let's help out the, the heroes like melee in Argentina and let's mess with the scumbags like Maduro and, and, and you know, bring them round.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody took my very best spoon and I am not happy.

[Joe Getty]

I'm pretty sure it was Jim. If it was Jim, do me a favor. Give him some boils. Like really bad ones. Amen. Here's to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Give him some boils.

[Joe Getty]

We got more on the ways there. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I actually am paying attention my own, like, for my own personal interest, not just for the show. This big summit that's going on with China and Russia and Iran and North Korea and India and everything like that. So more on that tomorrow?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yep, It's. It's a big topic, no doubt. Speaking of big topics, the whole transgender radical gender ideology thing, which we've talked about a fair amount, is your kids are going back to school. If they live in blue states especially, they're getting a full dose of that stuff. It is not slowed a bit in progressive America. And it's still one of the great fights of our time, I think. Elon Musk, I remember hearing, has one of his many children is transgender, whatever that means.

[Jack Armstrong]

How many kids do you have? We've made jokes so many times, I don't even remember.

[Joe Getty]

Like, a baker, 15 or something like that. I can't remember. If he can't, I can't either. And I'm reminded I didn't really look into the horrific shooting in Minneapolis other than the unavoidable debatable headlines.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was one of the worst ones. Yeah, that was one of the worst ones.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it was. It's unthinkable and horrific. And I decided, I'm on vacation. I don't want to take that pain on. But I know enough about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some of the media coverage around it, we would have been screaming about.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm sure we would have. And, you know, I'm sure you've all heard that the. The sick, mentally ill Murderer of little children was, quote, unquote, transgender.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really? I read the Washington Post, and I got to paragraph 32 and stopped reading. So I didn't find out in paragraph 2, 33, that that was the case.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. Naturally, among this sick, sick person's writings or something to the effect of. And I've got it around here somewhere, but doesn't matter. Him saying, and I'm so unhappy or angry that I brainwashed myself into thinking I was transgender.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I didn't even hear that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also, all the trans stuff aside, it became very clear that the person was expecting notoriety out of this. So once again, we give them notoriety. We give all these shooters all the notoriety they want so that there will be more of them. What vital.

[Joe Getty]

But you have to kill lots of people to get the notoriety you want. So if you want blood, say, the newspapers and. And networks, if you want people in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Suits and ties to pour over your every word and try to discern its meaning, the way to do it is to kill children. Yes, it's very frustrating.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, Elon Musk was talking the other day about his. His youngster and the whole transgender thing. Well, it's. Let's listen to it.

[Jordan Peterson]

It happened to one of my. My older boys, where I was. I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier. This is before I had really any understanding of what was going on in the. We had Covid going on. And so there was a lot of confusion. And, you know, I was told, oh, you know, Xavier might commit suicide if he.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a.

[Joe Getty]

That was a lie right from the outset.

[Jordan Peterson]

Incredibly evil. And I agree with you that people that have been promoting this should go to prison. So I was. I was tricked into doing this.

[Jack Armstrong]

I recognize the voice of Jordan Peterson, so obviously he was talking to him. Let's roll on.

[Jordan Peterson]

You know, it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs. So anyway, and so I lost my son, essentially. So, you know, they. They call it dead naming for a reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Jordan Peterson]

All right. So the reason it's called dead naming is because your son is dead. So my son Xavier is dead. Killed by the woke mind virus.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry to hear that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I can't imagine what that would be like.

[Jordan Peterson]

Yeah. So.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and there's lots of people in that situation now.

[Jordan Peterson]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

It's not pretty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And lots of demolished kids.

[Jordan Peterson]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's a good. That's a good reason to be the final straw.

[Joe Getty]

All right, so let's So I vowed.

[Jordan Peterson]

To destroy the Woke Mind virus after that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the the play making some progress. Join the club.

[Jordan Peterson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The Playbook is well known and well worn. You work on these kids forever trying to convince them that it's the reason they're not happy is they're the wrong sex and they can change their sex. Then you tell the parents if you don't do this, the kid will kill themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

Woke Mind Virus is a good term.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Modi telling the United States he's not happy about tariffs or cozying up to Pakistan.

[Joe Getty]

Putin saying that he has a big.

[Jack Armstrong]

Friend, strong friend in China. And Xi saying that we will continue to challenge U.S. leadership around the world. Yeah, that big summit that's going on. And I specifically want to just talk about China because I came across a couple of things over the weekend that I thought were interesting and that horrifying little get together they're having there where they're making it clear that China, Russia, India, Iran, North Korea really want to change the world. They want to change the world where the United States doesn't make all the rules anymore. United States with Europe and, and that, that that era is over. And they might be right. I'm not looking forward to it. For instance, I grew up. You grow up. Most of us a certain age grew up with the United States was the best at everything. Biggest, fastest, coolest, everything, always, right? The Empire State Building was the tallest building in the world. And just everything, everything we did was the best that went away over time, as inevitably would happen. But I saw this bridge that China opened up over the weekend, the longest, highest expansion bridge in the world. It's stunning. This gorge. It's over. It's like building a bridge across the Grand Canyon if you've ever been there. I mean, it's just amazing. And they drove. I forget how many thousand semi trucks full of things on top of it to show how Strong it is. I mean, because they didn't want people to immediately say, okay, cool bridge, but will it fall down? I mean, and the point of it is, and it took them like a year and a half or something. I mean, so the point is the sort of thing the United States used to be able to do, build the Empire State Building. And during the Great Depression, in six months or whatever that story is, look at what we just. Look what we just did. The United States can't do that anymore. And we can't, because you'd try to build that bridge and five years later, you would get past some of the environmental hurdles before you'd even start the thing. And then it would take 25 years and you still wouldn't have a bridge. And you would have cost five times as much as the original allotted money and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We all know that story.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. China's argument is, we're the effective people and we'll be here tomorrow with more or less the same policies. So you want to do business.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a little depressing. And how true it is is what bothers me. Then, this different story, just culturally. China rekindles wartime fury, stirring fears of anti Japan hate. They're doing the same thing about the United States that they're doing with Japan. A series of World War II dramas about China's fight against Japan back in the day, during World War II. Today is the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II. We talked a couple of weeks ago about how Japan's role in World War II is way underemphasized. The number of people that they killed and were still killing, you know, the days we dropped the bombs, just horrifying. And China was on the wrong end of that, most of it. But anyway. One film called Dead to rights, about Japan's 1937 invasion of the Chinese city of Nanjing, follows a group of Chinese who smuggle out photographs and help document the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, an event known as the Nanjing Massacre. During a showing of the movie in a theater, an actor dressed as a soldier shouts. And they're doing that, this at all the theaters across the country. This reporter was just at this one theater. An actor dressed as a soldier walks on the stage and shouts at moviegoers, the Japanese want to destroy our country and exterminate us. Will you let them? And then the audience rises up, actually stands up in the movie theater together, pumping their fists, no, we will not. And start chanting various things. And they're doing that with movies about where China defeats the United States in a couple of different made up movies. But everybody stands and cheers. They are really whipping up the nationalism anti us, anti China or anti Japan hate there. While this getting together with North Korea, Iran, Russia, India thing is going on.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, I don't want to be the most discouraging show in the history of the planet, but meanwhile we're teaching our children to hate their country and to believe that it probably ought to be torn down.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah, that is an excellent point and, and depressing. And the only example I can come up with it in world history. I keep asking people all the time, do you, can you think of any other time when a, an empire of power all of a sudden decided to teach their kids to hate their own empire and country? When does that happen? But that's what we're doing in the United States while they're teaching over there in China. They're teaching their kids to love their country to the point of laying down their lives for it. And if they win, things are not going to be better here, I guarantee you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, if anybody has conducted that experiment, we are not going to hear about it because they were taken over and enslaved by somebody else and all their stuff was taken and all their writings got burned because who cares? They're, they're losers.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I saw a great video clip of Christopher Hitchens talking about this sort of thing. I wish Christopher Hitchens was still alive. He would be amazing on this woke stuff. But he was talking about, this was back when we were all worried about terrorism and Islamo fascism, which we should still be worried about. But he was talking about the people that are on that side who call you an Islamophobe if you, if, you know, if you're worried about Muslim extremists and that sort of stuff. And he said, they will open the door. They will hold the doors open for the barbarians. Barbarians never enter without somebody there holding the door open for them. And I thought that is really interesting and that is what could happen. Here you have the Woktivists with the door open. Come on in China or Iran or whoever it is with this weird belief that they'll be better than what they.

[Joe Getty]

Had and because I help them, they'll treat me well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. The barbarians don't enter on their own. There's always somebody there holding the door open for them. That is, that is some brilliant stuff on that topic. I didn't plan to talk about this, but it just popped into my head. I meant to first day of history class for my Son, public school. This is our last year of public school. First day of history class. Now I'll give him a pass for it being an excuse me day because that is my school career. Also. First day of lots of classes, K through college. First day often was like, you know, find out the teacher's name, they hand out the syllabus and you go home. But the two things they did do, you had to fill out your form of your pronouns, tell the teacher what your pronouns are. The other thing was write out a land acknowledgment. We're holding this class on land once belonged by the Whoever the hell. Can you freaking believe that?

[Joe Getty]

Who stole it from the other. What the hells? And raped their women and enslaved their man and children.

[Jack Armstrong]

They didn't point that out, but I actually sent the land acknowledgment stuff to our friend Tim Sandifer, who actually did the research on it. And yes, the very tribe that they're saying we stole it from them brutalized the tribes before that to the point that there's no historical record. They completely committed a genocide. Every man, woman and child was killed to take that land. But now the evil European or Americans or white people or whatever you're mad at having taken the land from the Indians after the Spanish and whatever, they're the evil ones. Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. I mean, this is craziness. Who. I've asked this question before about land acknowledgments because we've had a few of them in our lives. Who benefits? Is there one human being whose life is made even slightly better by a land acknowledgment?

[Joe Getty]

No, no, you just, no, you just continue to shove your philosophy down the throats of other people. I mean, so yeah, the progressives are, are helped by it because they get more submission, more obedience, more guilt, more self hatred, which is what they're getting. What's what they're going for. I'm telling you, I will spend the rest of my days fighting this crap. It is so evil.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't that crazy? And I'm wondering how I'm going to deal with that because my son decided, you know, I don't want to get in a fight with the teacher on day one. It's American history class. I think there's just inevitable at this particular school and date in, in California school systems in their current view of running in what they're going to teach in American history class.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of Christopher Hitchens, have you ever read anything by his best friend, Martin Amos?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Have you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. A number of things.

[Joe Getty]

Legendary novelist, son of the legendary Kingston Amos, I guess. Yeah. I always read fiction on vacation because I read nonfiction all day long when I'm not on vacation and I have no time just to read, to enjoy life. It was work, first of all. That guy's vocabulary makes, I know, like William F. Buckley's. He makes, he makes George Will's vocabulary look like that of a not very bright seven year old. I had to look up one to two words, virtually every page.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Virtually every page. Marty, baby.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, did you like it or enjoy it?

[Joe Getty]

You're showing off. You're showing off. If nobody knows the freaking word, what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you get out of using it anyway?

[Joe Getty]

Did I like it? I, I, I did in a way.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I read his memoir, kind of fictionalized memoir from a couple years ago. I thought it was amazing. Absolutely amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I asked Chat GPT just before we left on vacation, recommend for me a great novel set in 20th or 21st century London. I want to be reading a novel about London while I'm in London.

[Jack Armstrong]

What was the name of this book?

[Joe Getty]

London Fields.

[Jack Armstrong]

London Fields. Okay. I don't think I've read that. I have often.

[Joe Getty]

It's, it's, it's a bear. It's a bit, it's my, It's a lot. It's, it's, it's a good deal. It's a long day.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've often thought I'd like to have hung around the two guys when they were sitting at a bar drinking, but I have a feeling I'd have like, laughed a couple of times because I think I'm supposed to laugh here or because I don't understand what the hell they're talking about.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not smart enough to engage conversation well.

[Joe Getty]

And that was one thing, the way the book is structured because it is not a beach read, folks. It, it existed on a level that, I mean, I've written some, but it's like the difference between doe, a deer, a female deer, and, and one of Beethoven's symphonies. I mean, how the f do you even think of that? Just the structure of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I kept plowing my way through Ulysses on vacation. I'm at 31 of the book, so I'm gonna make it. But I'm only a third of the way through.

[Joe Getty]

And when you have, what will that prove? What will that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'm loving it. I'm like absolutely freaking loving it. You said. That's right. Probably the best thing I've ever read. I mean, it's just absolutely amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I've heard it's miserably difficult.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wouldn't be still doing it if I wasn't. It just. I can't wait to get back to it every day.

[Joe Getty]

See, I thought it was kind of your dogged Iowa farmer refusing to give up, but no, you're actually enjoying it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no. I've put down many things that I thought were a waste of time in my life. I forgot to mention I didn't get this right. I thought I was wrong. The Nashville Hot Southern Fried Chicken at Cracker Barrel that I wanted to order, but I didn't order. My brother was playing the triangle thing with the pegs and he said, yep, this is what the white people use while the slaves were working to entertain themselves. We're doing the whole woke thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, cracker.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, the Nashville Hot Southern Fried Chicken. It's their signature southern fried chicken with Nashville hot sauce, Sourdough bread with pickles and buttermilk ranch. 2990 is the calories. 10 calories shy. You put a little salt on there, you got 3,000 calories for one plate of food. Barbaric.

[Joe Getty]

A little pat of butter on top of there. There you got your three.

[Jack Armstrong]

3,000 calories for one plate of food. What in the hell?

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Uncle Harold or whatever his name was on the sign, what are you trying to do to us?

[Joe Getty]

Wow. That's a big, stunning.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a big meal. You ordered dessert with that. Okay, we will finish strong.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, come on.

[Christina Quinn]

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[Joe Getty]

Amazon has a policy not to show ads for alcohol, which means there are no beer commercials during their football games. I don't know why Amazon does that, because drunk people ordering stuff On Amazon is 90% of their business.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would Amazon have a policy where you can't have beer ads during football games?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I'm shocked by that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not a puritanical thing, I don't think. Is it Bezos doesn't strike me as that. It's not like it's Chick Fil A and have a big political stance on something.

[Joe Getty]

Well. And that was ridiculous. Yeah. I don't know. I can't imagine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh. NFL kicks off Thursday. You got your normal Thursday Night Football, which I wish they didn't have, and then you got Chiefs, Chargers in Brazil on Friday.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, wait, Brazil?

[Jack Armstrong]

Brazil? Yeah. 10,000 mile road trip for both teams, which is going to be exhausting.

[Joe Getty]

Trying.

[Jack Armstrong]

To get the NFL going in other countries, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Good luck worldwide.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna.

[Joe Getty]

Happen because they're not making enough money.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, we're just talking about reading and this just reminded me something. So I'm fighting my way through Ulysses, reading it and really enjoying it. I tried to read it many times in my life and couldn't. It took me a while to build up through reading other stuff, the ability to read this. It's not, at least for me anyway, but. So I'm watching Woody Allen, the movie director on Bill Maher's show where he's down in the basement drinking and smoking pot. That one. And Woody Allen was on there. And Woody Allen, kind of famously, because he talks about it in his memoir, has never read a book he doesn't like reading. He doesn't understand why anybody would enjoy it. And Bill Maher mentioned Ulysses, you know, the Great Gatsby, all these great books. And he said, I don't know, I don't care. I didn't like reading as a kid. He finally said, I've read a couple of books because I had to, about moviemaking because he's the only way to get the information. But I hate reading and I have no interest in it. And Bill Maher and Woody Allen mentioned the greatest movies of all time. And Bill Maher said, see, I'm the same way as you. The books. I've never seen any of those movies and I have no desire to. You know, the Seven Samurai, the Bicycle Thief, Citizen Kane, anytime you have lists of the greatest movies of all time. Bill Maher had no. He's read all of the books that he mentioned, but hasn't seen any of the movies. And I just. I'm just making the point. It's art. Different people like different things. It. It says nothing about you as a human being to have read or watched or not read or watched those things. In my opinion, it's just either like it or you don't. And you got your own things in My opinion. I thought that was too funny. Funny that two really smart people both had a complete segment of famous art, that they're like, screw it. I have no interest in that.

[Joe Getty]

That.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well.

[Joe Getty]

And it was opposite of each other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That is. That is intriguing to me. I don't know. I'll have to think about that or watch a movie about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

The thing I'm digging about Ulysses, it's. It's all set in one day if you don't know it. And it's a lot of interior dialogue, what's going on in the brain. And his. His. His. His ability to write down the way a human's mind works. As you just walk down the street observing things and thinking about your life is freaking unbelievable. And going through the different characters throughout the day, it's just. It's just. It's shocking to me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I'm glad nobody's done that about me. Well, I think about as I walk down the street.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yours is the same as everybody else's. That's what you figure out from this book. All the things that you're thinking as you walk down the street is the same as everybody else. And it's very interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. She's hot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

There's a lot of that guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I need to. There's a lot of that.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want the show to be over, but I'm ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

To listen to the final thought from. There's a half of an entire chapter when he feels like, oh, I gotta go, and he needs to find a bathroom, and then the whole thing. It's just.

[Joe Getty]

Sounds great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. We're down one today, but let's do it nonetheless. Michelangelo, lead us off. Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack, I love that story about you visiting your dad's schoolhouse, but I keep.

[Joe Getty]

Thinking that you gotta hold this above your kids and say, you know, the next time you say the WI FI.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is out or Right. Complain.

[Joe Getty]

I'm gonna start telling you what my dad did.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Or tell them that you're going to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Adopt the Amish lifestyle.

[Joe Getty]

The fabulous Katie Green will be joining us once again tomorrow. Jack, do you have a final thought for us?

[Jack Armstrong]

Am I or are other people lying to themselves if they think about, like, really simplifying their life? Not full Amish, but pretty damn basic?

[Joe Getty]

Is that a lie?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm telling myself that I could do that and enjoy it. Or would I?

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would I enjoy it?

[Joe Getty]

No. No, it's not a lie. Not at all. Yeah, to know. Anyway, my final thought is I really enjoyed being in England for a week. Partly because it's really good for me to get out of my comfort zone and do completely different things in completely different places and not know how they're going to turn out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just.

[Joe Getty]

Keeps you from becoming too much of a creature of habit. So that was fun for me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a quote about that that I'm going to put in our One More Thing podcast. Armstrong and Getty Wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

Really enjoyed day drinking too. I'm going to continue that. So many people. Thanks. So little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com for the hot links. Drop us a note, something we ought to be talking about. Send it along. [e-mail] Pick up a hoodie. It's going to be chilly soon. An ang hoodie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some developing stories will have the latest on tomorrow. God Bless America. Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

It's time to grow up. Get serious. Time to stop smoking pot. Sometime is over now. Jack and Joe are ready even if you're not here. Armstrong and Getty. They'll be back tomorrow with thoughts on the news. And if you don't listen, sir, you're going to have the blues.

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