Go Eat An Oreo Sister!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode: "Go Eat An Oreo Sister!"

Release Date: August 1, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!

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1. Introduction and Overview

In the episode titled "Go Eat An Oreo Sister!", hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, alongside Katie Green and occasional contributions from Tammy and Michael, delve into a range of pressing political and economic issues spiced with their signature humor and banter.

2. Tariffs and Trade Policies

Timestamp: 01:14 – 04:57

The hosts kick off the discussion by addressing recent developments in U.S. trade policies, highlighting President Trump's imposition of 68 new tariffs intended to reshape global business dynamics.

• Jack Armstrong (01:14): "Trump dropped...68 tariffs last night before...exciting news with August 1st and all that sort of stuff."

• Katie Green (03:07): "It's horrible and it's dumb and it needs to stop."

They critique the 35% tariffs imposed on Canadian imports, emphasizing the negative impact on American carmakers like Ford, who rely on parts sourced from Canada and Mexico. The conversation underscores the broader implications of these tariffs on international relations and domestic industries.

• Jack Armstrong (02:41): "He hit Canada with a 35% tariff. That starts today. I say you sent us Celine Dion. This is fair."

The discussion also touches upon the legal challenges Trump faces, with an upcoming court ruling that could potentially nullify these tariffs if deemed unlawful.

• Katie Green (01:39): "These tariffs might come and go, like a dance craze."

3. Jobs Report and Economic Indicators

Timestamp: 04:55 – 07:32

The hosts shift focus to the latest jobs report, revealing that only 73,000 jobs were added in July, significantly below expert predictions.

• Jack Armstrong (04:55): "Employers added only 73,000 jobs in July, falling quite a bit short of what experts were predicting."

Katie criticizes the overreliance on expert forecasts, equating their predictions to "the Bible."

• Katie Green (05:11): "It's like the Bible to me. Boy, those experts hit me with a prediction. I just take it to heart."

The conversation explores the potential implications of this weak job growth on the Federal Reserve's decisions regarding interest rates.

4. Housing Market and Rent Issues

Timestamp: 07:34 – 10:46

Addressing the persistent housing crisis, Jack and Katie lament the skyrocketing rents and stagnant housing market.

• Jack Armstrong (07:34): "The rent is too damn high."

• Katie Green (09:36): "If you've got a loan on a house at 2.85%, you are not going to move... there's no math that works on it."

They discuss the challenges homeowners and renters face, including the reluctance to move due to low-interest rates and the lack of affordable housing options.

5. International Affairs: Russia-Ukraine Conflict and Israel-Gaza Situation

Timestamp: 12:11 – 30:35

Russia-Ukraine Conflict:

The hosts report on Russia's intensified military actions in Ukraine, noting the launch of 6,400 drones and missiles in a single month.

• Jack Armstrong (12:22): "Russia launches 6,6400 drones and missiles into Ukraine in a record-breaking month."

They critique Putin's strategy and its implications for NATO and global security.

Israel-Gaza Conflict:

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the contentious Israel-Gaza situation. The hosts discuss a new poll indicating that only 32% of Americans approve of Israel's military actions in Gaza, a decrease from 42% the previous summer.

• Katie Green (24:05): "American's overall view of Israel's military action in Gaza is at its lowest approval. Less than a third of Americans approve of what Israel is doing now in Gaza."

Jack draws parallels between current events and historical conflicts, particularly World War II, arguing that Hamas's refusal to surrender complicates the situation.

• Jack Armstrong (25:06): "They're fighting to establish a worldwide caliphate. That is their goal."

The discussion emphasizes the complexity of the conflict, the role of Hamas, and the broader geopolitical ramifications.

6. Political Commentary and Media Clips

Timestamp: 31:03 – 35:29

Katie introduces a segment titled "Katie's Headlines" where she shares various political and social news snippets, including Kamala Harris's latest comments and critiques of media representations.

• Katie Green (33:08): "Kamala thinks she did not do enough interviews."

The hosts also explore the impact of media narratives on public perception, using humorous examples like "robot bunnies fighting pythons" and critiquing how certain stories gain traction or are dismissed.

7. Mailbag and Listener Interactions

Timestamp: 32:35 – 34:11

Listeners' contributions are featured in the "Mailbag" segment. Eric shares an amusing incident involving an Indonesian monkey stealing his cookies.

• Eric (32:35): "A monkey jumped in, grabbed a small paper bag and went up a tree... he had made off with my snack size pack of Oreos and the famous Amos cookies."

This lighthearted exchange provides a breather from the intense political discussions, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and humor.

8. Technology and AI in Art

Timestamp: 34:10 – 35:39

Katie discusses the impact of artificial intelligence on creativity, referencing a listener's experience with AI-generated songs.

• Katie Green (34:10): "I used Suno to create three songs this week. It triggered an unexpected existential crisis."

The conversation delves into the pros and cons of AI in artistic endeavors, highlighting the tension between human creativity and machine-generated content.

9. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with continued banter among the hosts, leaving listeners with a blend of insightful commentary and entertaining discussions. The overarching theme centers on the intertwining of economic policies, international conflicts, and societal issues, all examined through the lens of Armstrong & Getty's unique perspective.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong (02:41): "He hit Canada with a 35% tariff... I'm drinking all the coffee."

• Katie Green (05:11): "It's like the Bible to me. Boy, those experts hit me with a prediction."

• Jack Armstrong (07:34): "The rent is too damn high."

• Katie Green (24:05): "Less than a third of Americans approve of what Israel is doing now in Gaza."

• Eric (32:35): "He had made off with my snack size pack of Oreos and the famous Amos cookies."

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This episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand" offers a comprehensive examination of current economic challenges, international conflicts, and societal trends, all delivered with the hosts' characteristic wit and depth. Whether you're a regular listener or new to the show, this episode provides valuable insights and engaging discussions on topics that shape our world today.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Katie Green]

And now here's I'm strong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna drink all the coffee today. I'm drinking all of it.

[Katie Green]

All of it. Alert Peru. Yeah. If you want a cup of coffee.

[Jack Armstrong]

You better get it down because I'm drinking all the coffee.

[Katie Green]

I'll end up with the crop to the donkeys.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna be back in the ER Coffee related Live from Studio C, senor, a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. Hey, y'. All.

[Katie Green]

Today, Friday. Ho, ho, ho.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're heading into a Friday weekend. We're under the tutelage of our general manager.

[Katie Green]

She' tanned, rested, and ready. Kamala Harris.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, geez.

[Katie Green]

Honorary. Honorary general manager. Radioactive wasps. Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

And of course, Trump dropped, what, 68 tariffs last night before. Before. Before everybody went to bed. That's very exciting news with August 1st and all that sort of stuff.

[Katie Green]

Is it. Is it exciting news?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's a. It's a big deal in terms of, like, rejiggering the way the world does business in a way that's completely different. It's been our whole lives, so we'll see how this all turns out.

[Katie Green]

Yes, indeed. There are several aspects to that story that I'm looking forward to talking about, believe it or not, and they're interesting. For instance, the big appeals court hearing the other day or yesterday. It doesn't look great for the administration. These tariffs might come and go, like a dance craze.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, but. So when are they going to make that ruling?

[Katie Green]

It seems like any minute now.

[Jack Armstrong]

It seems like the courts think, dude, you can't do this. I mean, there's been a lot of wasted blabber and ink spilled talking about this. If the courts say he can't do that. Oh, okay, well, never mind. We go back to the way things were before. What the hell, right?

[Katie Green]

Right. Let's see. Is there timing for a decision? I. I hear you. No, your point is well taken. You know, I don't. I don't have that information. Interesting. Oral arguments were yesterday, and I'll tell you all about them.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, if there's ever been a case for, like, expediting a decision, this would be it.

[Katie Green]

I would agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

We hit. He hit Canada with a 35% tariff. That starts today. I say you sent us Celine Dion. This is fair.

[Katie Green]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever it takes to even out that Atrocity.

[Katie Green]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

But that, that's, that's a pretty big deal. 35% tariff on everything coming out of Canada and everybody up there is mad and people don't like us anymore and blah, blah, blah.

[Katie Green]

It's horrible and it's horrible and it's dumb and it needs to stop. There you go. I said it. Joe Getty addressed your emails to me. It's horrible and it's dumb and it needs to stop. It's going to crush American carmakers who, because of the trade deal Trump made in the first term, source a lot of their parts from Canada and Mexico. So American car dealers like Ford is going to get hammered by the tariffs. BMW, not so much. Explain that to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I didn't want Kamala to win, so I have a different opinion than you.

[Katie Green]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I also don't like. And I also don't like Celine Dion. I thought it was interesting that clear Trump had to because of this court ruling you're talking about, because he's leaning on his emergency powers. He had to double down on the whole they haven't done enough around fentanyl thing yesterday to try to make the argument that this is about fentanyl, even though he said earlier in the day or had had truth out earlier in the day that he was very angry about them recognizing Palestine as a state and that, that, and they tied that to the tariff decision. So I think that's what had the bee that was in his bonnet was about Palestine, not fentanyl. But he can't say that because he can't claim there's an emergency around. They don't have the same foreign policy as us.

[Katie Green]

Although he slammed Brazil with big tariffs because he doesn't like the way they're treating old Bolsonaro, the ex president. But I mean, it's just. Here's a conservative publication's first two sentences about the oral arguments before the Federal Circuit yesterday. Well, that was painful for the Trump administration's lawyer, that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you never know how courts are going to rule, but they can need.

[Katie Green]

To get to it sometimes, you do know, sometimes, you know, they need to get to.

[Jack Armstrong]

It would be my point. Employers added only 73,000 jobs in July, falling quite a bit short of what experts were predicting. And as we all know, what experts predicting is the whole ball of wax for some reason. I have no idea why, even though experts are regularly wrong.

[Katie Green]

It's like the Bible to me. Boy, those experts hit me with a prediction. I just take it to heart.

[Jack Armstrong]

But does this have anything to do with Tariffs or not. I don't flipping. No, neither does anybody.

[Katie Green]

Did not reach expectations.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta go.

[Katie Green]

Were your expectations.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got a good clip. Maybe we'll get to bottom of the hour segment from msnbc. Last night I was watching their late night show before I went to bed and the host hit their guest with. So this is another taco, huh? Trying to set up for a good Trump bashing from her economic expert. And they went completely the other direction. Um, and it's pretty interesting to hear about. No, no, this is real. This is a really big deal. Whether or not it's gonna turn out good or not, who knows? It'll take time to find out. But this is a big deal. We have. We have changed the way the world does business. For better or worse.

[Katie Green]

That whole taco narrative is so stupid. How can an adult not see the. The stupidity of, well, I don't negotiate well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Like I said the other day, if. Have you never sold a used car you didn't like, have a price that you were planning to back off on, or the taco for you, you always back out? Or was your plan all along to list it for 65 and sold for 6?

[Katie Green]

Right, right. You know, and I mean this point quite seriously. And this underlies just many of the biggest problems we have with the left in American politics. People of the left, generally speaking, I'm going, you know, just, you know, a large percentage of them do not understand the very fundamentals of business and economics. They look at it through an emotional lens or a justice lens, and they have no idea how goods and services are bought and sold and traded.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I don't understand why Democrats aren't leaning. Well, Democrats have kind of been pro tariffs, though, my whole life. So I suppose maybe that puts them in uncomfortable position. Like, you know, Bernie and Biden didn't roll back any of the tariffs that Trump had from his first term.

[Katie Green]

No, no, there you go. He could have done that the same day he released all the Epstein files that they're so obsessed with all of a sudden.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Katie Green]

It's all so funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it is. Let's start the show officially. We don't want the FCC breathing down her necks and we get thrown into that El Salvador prison. I'm Jack Armstrong. Joe Getty on this. It is. Oh, my God. It's a brand new month. It's Friday, August 1st. The rent is due.

[Katie Green]

The rent is too damn high.

[Jack Armstrong]

The year 2025. We're Armstrong and getting. We approve of this program. You know that clip. Do we have any Idea how old that clip is. The rent is too damn high. It's very old. But back when the guy first said that, it was like true where he lived, but not really true generally. Now it's so very true everywhere.

[Katie Green]

He was a less slick mum Dami back in the day, running for mayor of New York. You know, Katie, rent is too damn high party. Yes. Yeah.

[Tammy]

2009.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And I remember at the time it was like, it was just kind of funny. But now it's like every month, I think. Yeah, I know. Mine is. It's too damn high. It's ridiculous.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, brutal. Brutal. All right, let's begin the show officially now, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark.

[Jack Armstrong]

If we don't put a stake into.

[Katie Green]

The heart of this administration, there may.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not be an election in 2028. Oh, my God.

[Katie Green]

Oh, Gavi. Cute little Gavi. Didn't get the memo. That whole apocalyptic Hitler there won't be any more elections thing. Yeah, everybody's kind of laughing at that now, so. And, and again, you're part of a one party state. You don't ever have to like, compete. So your game is very, very soft, Gav. Very soft.

[Jack Armstrong]

To the rent being too damn high. I was listening to a podcast the other day about housing prices, and this isn't new. We've had this conversation before, but the whole housing market nationwide is still stuck and nobody knows how it's going to.

[Katie Green]

Get out of it, which is why.

[Jack Armstrong]

Rents are too dime high. If you've got, if you're, if you're in a loan in a house that's like 2.85% like we got on our farm, or, you know, some really low rate, you are not going to move. I mean, unless you. Somebody dies or you, you get reload. I mean, some major life event, but you just, you can't move. I mean, even if you're planning to downsize, why would I go to half the house and end up with the same payment? So, I mean, it's just, there's no math that works on it, and so people aren't leaving or I don't know how we ever get unstuck from this.

[Katie Green]

Well, and even if you own your house free and clear and you're say an oldster and you want to downsize, it's just galling, right? You know, maybe you're selling a 4,500 square foot house for a 2,000 square foot house. That's the same price you just sold.

[Jack Armstrong]

Your old place for.

[Katie Green]

There's nothing for your Kids and grandkids or whatever. And you're thinking, what the hell just happened?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. It's hard to come up with a. Well, an economic reason that you would, that houses would start moving. I don't know how that ever breaks free. And, and, and, and we all have stuck in our heads those old interest rates that are never going to come back in our lifetimes. Now you're not going to be buying a house at, you know, under 3% interest ever again.

[Katie Green]

As I've said many times, and there is no better metaphor than this, go to your spouse and say, honey, you remember on our honeymoon when we had sex 14 times that week? I've noticed that we're not anymore. That those, those interest rates are every bit as unrealistic as your honeymoon lovin' not coming back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's an interesting comparison.

[Katie Green]

Well, I think it rings true.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we've got Katie's headlines on the way. We got clips of the week. We got Mailbag. We got some other news we need to get to. And it's. And it's just gonna be a party. It's going to be a Friday party. It's going to be an August 1st Friday party is what it's going to write.

[Tammy]

What a powerful metaphor.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, Kamala agrees.

[Katie Green]

Thanks, Tammy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we got a lot on the way. Here's our text line. 415295 KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

So on Fridays, I drive to work listening to music instead of news because I can't take it anymore. This week I went with Sturgill Simpson's album Metam Modern Sounds in Country Music that won so many Grammys and critical acclaim from 10 years ago. Go. God dang it. That's a good album. If you're a country, like a real country music fan, like outlaw country. And you haven't listened to that album. God put that on your list this weekend. Holy crap.

[Katie Green]

Excellent tip. I was elbow deep in tariff policy while Jack was gallivanting barf.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I was. All right, jamming that music, the windows down, driving to work, thinking tariffs.

[Katie Green]

Good for you. Were you smoking a J as well as you people call them judgy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Judgy as you people call them. That's funny.

[Katie Green]

Serious times.

[Jack Armstrong]

Half that song is about smoking, Jays.

[Katie Green]

I suspect it as much. All right, let's figure out who's reporting what. For goodness sakes. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie.

[Tammy]

Well, for goodness sakes. Let's start with ABC. Russia launches 6, 6400 drones and missiles into Ukraine in record breaking months.

[Jack Armstrong]

6400 for the month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is one of the reasons that Trump has soured on Putin, because that is no indication. So like I said the other day, I guess his plan is to somehow one day overwhelm their systems, right?

[Katie Green]

Oh, clearly. Absolutely. Deplete their. Their supplies mostly. Here's a question for you. Never mind what I want or what would be good. I just find it interesting. Putin and Medvedevs, a name that is impossible for most people to say. Their open disdain and mockery of Trump. How is that going to be useful, just strategically speaking? I don't get it. And normally, even as I recognize Putin's evil, I understand why he's doing what he's doing. But this one justifies me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is he trying to bait NATO into being into war with NATO? Last night we're gonna use up all Katie's headlines time. But last night, Lavrov put out a big statement about how all the European countries are part of the fourth Reich returning and Nazis trying to boost Ukraine. And that sounded like they're egging on a war with NATO.

[Tammy]

From NBC, Epstein, abuse survivor, wanted the files released before her suicide.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I wonder what she thinks is in the files.

[Tammy]

Her family has a lot to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I want to hear.

[Katie Green]

Well, let's hear them. Yeah.

[Tammy]

From the New York Times. With the new 40 tariff, Trump takes aim at U. S. Dependence on China's factories.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, kind of. Boy, it's complicated.

[Tammy]

All right, from popular science, robot bunnies deployed in Florida to fight invasive pythons.

[Katie Green]

I like it. Well, there's a lot there.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a lot there. Robot bunnies taking on pythons.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, straight out of Monty Python. The holy grail, by the way, innocent looking bunny just flashes its steely teeth and just kicks some python butt.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I've had the right amount of coffee. My heart is palpitating. Keep an eye on me, Michael. Got it.

[Tammy]

Jack, turn your heart rate monitor on on your iPhone or your apple watch.

[Jack Armstrong]

I will.

[Tammy]

That's a good idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

See if I'm going down.

[Tammy]

New York post drunk Wyoming traveler steals golf cart and goes on destructive ride at Buffalo international airport.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's a good way to get life goals.

[Tammy]

No, come on, I want to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, sure, it sounds fun. Yes, but they don't, they don't play around with the whole security thing at airports, you know?

[Katie Green]

Michael, I'm just trying to get four ounces of toothpaste through the. The line. You'll find out. Fafo, baby.

[Tammy]

Michael, I'm so Sorry. How much time do I have?

[Jack Armstrong]

Depends on how many days you go to the gym.

[Tammy]

Yeah, I go four to five days a week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then you probably got a good notice. I probably got 30 years.

[Katie Green]

40 years.

[Tammy]

30 years. I'm gonna live to 66.

[Jack Armstrong]

I realized how young you were after I said thank you so much.

[Tammy]

Okay, I've got two Babylon B headlines for you because I couldn't decide between one. So the first one is. Investigation concludes that Trump is the only one who didn't collude with Russia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, boy. There's some new stuff on that that came out yesterday that has a lot of attention from the Trump side of the aisle.

[Katie Green]

Right, right. And it's so stupid that that's the way we are as a people, but it is. I was struck in reading about that. The number of stories that are really, really important and they affect our lives and they matter to the republic, but they take a little bit of explaining. You can't do them in 30 seconds. Therefore they are utterly absent from the national discussion. And. And a lot of so called journalism too. If it takes more than a 30 seconds, they think, nah, it's kind of boring. People won't listen to this.

[Tammy]

So I picked this second Babylon B headline to start a fight. Okay, that's what I'm here to. Man. Man with strong urge to eat a wicker basket settles for Triscuits instead.

[Katie Green]

Wait a minute. How dare you.

[Tammy]

See, I know, I know, I know.

[Katie Green]

Delicious, crunchy cracker treat.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know about delicious. It's a good. It's a good platform for something else, but it is.

[Tammy]

You're chewing on hay.

[Jack Armstrong]

You could, you could dismantle a wicker basket and accomplish the same thing.

[Katie Green]

The soft, soft Generation Z or whatever you are, you are. You are the olive oil and rosemary Triscuit for the sophisticated non child palate. It is absolutely delicious.

[Tammy]

It is crap. If you have to dress it up.

[Katie Green]

That much, well, go eat an Oreo, sister. Shred the child.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

A jobs report just out that will challenge the Fed to want to cut rates, which is what Trump wanted all along. Anyway, we can get into some of the analysis of these new jobs numbers in just a moment.

[Katie Green]

Yes, one of the great aspects of Friday, aside from the fact that we don't have to do this stinking job tomorrow, is that it's the Friday tradition. Time to take a fond look back at the week that was. It's Cal. Clips of the week.

[Michael]

Clips of the week.

[Katie Green]

Because we have so much growth that the Fed won't cut what The. Oh, my. Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Tammy]

And no one's picked the object up yet, you guys. Oh, my gosh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Michael]

Oh, no.

[Katie Green]

Oh, no.

[Michael]

Oh, no. She gonna go.

[Katie Green]

Head to the back.

[Michael]

Did you get to see my driver in the first hole?

[Katie Green]

You hit it straight pretty long.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's no Joe Biden I thought was a flippant. Flippant Fliver.

[Katie Green]

Wow. What now?

[Tammy]

I came out of that book like a Vietnam vet and aged 10 years and 200 pages.

[Jack Armstrong]

A terrifying new drug trend is sweeping our streets.

[Katie Green]

It's called 7 hydroxy.

[Jack Armstrong]

But some are calling it gas station heroin. Throw the knife that way.

[Tammy]

Throw it away.

[Jack Armstrong]

Footage showing people attacking a man who is shoved to the ground and kicked several times. There's too much going on in this country. People's due process rights and freedom of the speech rights. And secret police are running around this country.

[Michael]

He stole people that work for me. I said don't ever do that again. He did it again and I threw him out of the place. I think she worked at the spa. I think so.

[Joe Getty]

Patel reportedly found burn bags of rush to paint materials. And we'd love to get your thoughts on that.

[Michael]

He said, what now, Burn Bag? I thought you said appointed a man named Burn Bag.

[Joe Getty]

The president shrinking his 50 day deadline.

[Tammy]

For Putin to reach a ceasefire.

[Michael]

I'm gonna make a new deadline of about 10, 10 or 12 days.

[Jack Armstrong]

I should be working right now. Instead, I'm pumping iron in the gym.

[Katie Green]

I wonder if this will help me win back fangping because that's actually more believable.

[Tammy]

Sometimes the fight takes a while.

[Katie Green]

A woman confronts a man at a Barnes and Noble for getting uncomfortably close, seeming to sniff her.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you doing?

[Joe Getty]

Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.

[Katie Green]

Sydney Sweeney has great genes. The pun.

[Joe Getty]

Good genes activates troubling historical associations.

[Tammy]

You don't get to drop lines about inherited traits. Blue eyes and great genes while zooming in on somebody that could have walked straight off of a Nazi propaganda propaganda poster.

[Katie Green]

These maaque monkeys.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't say that on the air.

[Katie Green]

I think I can.

[Tammy]

I'm cringing everything I know.

[Katie Green]

I love macaques. Clips of the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Operatic is what that is.

[Katie Green]

AI guy can really hold a note, huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

So the Dow Jones Industrial Average is down about 500 points currently. Is it on the tariff news of last night? Is it on the jobs numbers that just came out? Who knows? The headline is that the labor market is worse than previously thought because they downgraded the last two months. So you had a weak number come out today and then the two months before that, they downgraded those numbers, said we were wrong, they were lower than we thought. So that means the labor market being worse than previously thought, showing the United states created about 106,000 total jobs in the past three months. That's the weakest pace of growth since the 2020 pandemic started, which is not necessarily good. And then the Wall Street Journal analysis of that is it is going to test the Fed's reluctance to cut rates, that it's actually a slow enough number that the Fed might want to cut interest rates. So we'll see what that does. Just on the tariff front, the Wall Street Journal says Apple is expecting a $1.1 billion tariff hit just next quarter. Now, if, as we're being told, mostly the company is going to pass that along to you, the consumer, me, the consumer, what does that mean? $1.1 billion tariff hit in one quarter for Apple?

[Katie Green]

Yeah, I just. This is doing so much damage in so many different directions and it's just begun. And look, there are probably some of you are thinking, no, no, no, you got to let it play out. He knows what he's doing. It's not all the dust hasn't settled yet. Have faith. And I tell you what, if it all works out great, I will say it as loud and proud as anybody, I really will. But meantime, I'm reading about Ford getting screwed while the European car companies pay lower tariffs than Ford does for its own parts. That because of the trade agreement of just a few years ago, it has made some of them in Mexico or Canada or whatever. And then these American manufacturers who have stubbornly, patriotically clung to manufacturing in the United States, creating jobs in the US they get some of their inputs from overseas. And now the tariffs have driven them to say, nah, I got to manufacture overseas now. I can't import the steel I need. I can't import the little widgets I get from China or wherever anymore. That's it. I give up.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't with you. They are saying.

[Katie Green]

That's what they're saying.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, different topic. There's a new poll out on America's views of what Israel's doing there in Gaza. You know, that's been a hot topic all week long. I was listening to the Commentary magazine podcast yesterday. That's a magazine that's been around for many, many, many decades, written by Jewish folks standing up for Jews around the world. And they made a couple of obvious but interesting points on this whole so called Famine. But before we get to that, American's overall view of Israel's military action in Gaza is at its lowest approval. Less than a third of Americans approve of what Israel is doing now in Gaza. That is a polling low from Gallup down to 32%. It had been 42% as recently as last summer started when this whole thing started at about 50% approval. So it only started at half. You got half the country that didn't think that they should go into Gaza after October 7th. What the hell were you going to do? But this is not new information. We've talked about this, but they were beside themselves over at Commentary magazine over the almost universal acceptance that this is one, a famine and two, on purpose from Israel. And making the point that we've made many times worth reminding people of. One, give me one other example in world history where you're attacked by a country, an entity, a people or whatever, and then you're on the hook for feeding them as you try to defeat them. Give me the one other example that's ever happened in world history.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pretty.

[Katie Green]

Not later when it's done, but in the midst of the fighting. Oh yeah, we, we fed Germans and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Japanese once they laid down their arms, but until they did, we were killing as many people as we possibly could. Until you finally surrendered. Because you attacked us in the case of Japan. And you are continuing to kill our people in fighting. And we're showing no signs of being willing to surrender, which is what Hamas is doing. They're showing no signs of being willing to surrender. So pretty good trick that the Hamas pulled, Palestinians pulled, or the mainstream media pulled, of making it seem like, well, obviously Israel's on the hook for feeding these people. What.

[Katie Green]

When does that ever, ever happened? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then would agree. And then to the obvious point that gets left out all the time. Joe always mentions this. Hamas could end this any day, absolutely any moment. Hamas could end this by saying, we no longer desire to eliminate Israel from the planet and here are your hostages back.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they won't. And so I'm reading the book, this book, another, yet another book about the end of world war.

[Katie Green]

Because, by the way, just to, just to make this crystal clear, because their goal is not to, quote, unquote, have a Palestinian state and live peacefully side by side. Their goal is to wipe out the Jews, remove any Jews from Muslim lands, quote unquote, and to establish a worldwide caliphate. That is their goal. Ask them, they will tell you.

[Jack Armstrong]

But this sort of thing is, is common. And I'm reading Downfall, which is one of the best books ever written about the very end of World War II in the Pacific and Japan and everything like that. And he makes the point regularly that the whole discussion of whether or not we should have dropped the bomb and whether it was moral and blah blah, blah, and ending the war and people always leave out. It wasn't up to Truman to this, only to decide how to end the war. Japan had a role in this too. They could have at any point said we quit. They could have surrendered at any point up until like the day before. And we're going to drop this giant atomic bomb on you if you don't surrender. But they didn't. And it's exactly the same thing that's going on with Israel. It gets left out all the time. The. The bad guys could quit, but they won't.

[Katie Green]

And then I would love to ask and, and well, I'll finish the question and then get to my main point. I would love to ask the people who disapprove, etc. All right, if Hamas did that, lay down their arms, return the hostages, etc. And peace was restored to Gaza, in what way would that make life worse for the Palestinians than prior to October 7th? In what way would that be a bad move or an unsupportable move? Unless you believed that the evil Jews would sweep across Gaza Strip and eat the babies and the rest of it. It would bring peace back and the ability to rebuild and make a living and the rest of it. There's no downside to surrendering. It's not like Israel is some sort of marauding force. No, Hamas is the marauding force. So there would be no downside to the good people for Hamas surrendering to the. So how are, how, what are you picturing exactly? People just. And that's one of the reasons I'm not uncomfortable on a practical political level. I'm uncomfortable with the fact that support's down to 32%. On a moral logical level though, I'm not because I understand a lot of people just look for who's being mean and who's the victim of people being mean and they're on the side of the people who are the victims and against the people who are being mean and they have been fed such a steady diet of one sided coverage and misinformation. Of course they have a misperception of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got to admit, it's pretty good rhetorical trick that has been pulled to convince everybody that obviously Israel is responsible for feeding these people. Now, some of you might have that because I see the, the text, the, the argument that it's not the Palestinians fault, they don't like Hamas either. Okay.

[Katie Green]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, is that correct? I don't know. We don't know how many Palestinians support Hamas. There are more indications that lots of them do than there are indications that lots of them don't. Based on that parading of dead and wounded Jews through the streets of Gaza right after October 7th. Sure seemed like a lot of people that thought that was really cool.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, I would just argue that that is irrelevant absent an armed force. Yeah, they have some Hamas sympathies a lot. You're absolutely. I do not disagree with a single thing you said. No, I was going to make a point, but it just. Again, if Hamas lays down their arms, all that can be worked out. And unfortunately one of the effects of this bitter battle is even if you didn't like Hamas, particularly as a Palestinian, you're going to root for your side. You're going to think, you know what, they're a holes, but there are a holes. And you know, I'm against Israel and it's hardening feelings. But just the idea, you know, the one thing Israel ought to do is get a little better at making the point that Hamas is not the army of the quote, unquote Palestinian people in the way that Westerners perceive. In spite of what you said about sympathy. They are not fighting to make their country safe and prosperous for their people. They're fighting to establish a worldwide caliphate at wipe the Jews off the map. That's their purpose.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have another good correlation between the end of World War II and what's going on with God and Israel. But we can get to that much, much later. We got Joe's mailbag on the way next. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Kamala Harris has a book out. It's, it's what every presidential candidate does so they have a reason to go on shows and talk about their being president. But anyway, Mark Halperin wrote a fake opening paragraphs of the book that is really dang funny. We'll have to get to that now.

[Katie Green]

Or love that idea. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Continuing our series from Javier Milei, who has turned around the economy and the world of the people of Argentina with liberty and free markets and that sort of thing. We mentioned yesterday that he said socialism is always and everywhere an impoverishing phenomenon that has failed in all countries where it's been tried out. It's been a failure economically, socially, culturally and murdered over 100 million human beings. By contrast, and here's today's quote. Free enterprise capitalism is not just the only possible system to end world poverty, but also the only morally desirable system to achieve this. The idea that the free market or capitalism is driven by greed, therefore it is immoral, is exactly wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

He should get some sort of Nobel Prize if it weren't for the fact that most Nobel Prize voters are socialists.

[Katie Green]

You know what? We ought to start the Soil Prize after Thomas. So for people who argue in favor of of freedom Mailbag Drop us a note mailbag@armstrong yeti.com Eric on the topic of the thieving Indonesian monkey gangs Once in Phuket, I got out of the back of a car. Before I could close the door, a monkey jumped in, grabbed a small paper bag and went up a tree. The look on his face as he slowly opened the bag to look inside it was like it was his Christmas. He had made off with my snack size pack of Oreos and the famous Amos cookies. Angry Fist. I custom out the sob.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't feel like working today and on the way in my car I almost said Phuket and turned around went home.

[Katie Green]

By the way Eric, you had both Oreos and famous Amos. The monkey was doing you a favor. Good lord. Factory cookies much? Let's see.

[Jack Armstrong]

Travel globally to exotic places and eat Oreos. Okay.

[Katie Green]

I know it's disgusting. The fabulous JT in Livermore with a couple of thoughts today, including this one. Kamala thinks she did not do enough interviews. Kamala thinking she needs to do more interviews like Biden thinking needs to do more debates.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, she didn't do enough hard interviews, but she can't is the problem. So trying to do more is not going to go well.

[Katie Green]

Easy softbally stuff. She can do pretty well. Marina and San Diego. Let's see, she says some absolutely lovely things. Lastly, on the Sydney Sweeney ad for Blue Jeans, Gutfeld uses the term poke. The woke companies may be trying to get the woke fired up about a nonsense ad and their brand goes up like American Eagles did. Opposite of Budweiser perhaps. And then this note. Ryan from the homeless shelter.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting.

[Katie Green]

I don't know if Ryan is actually in a homeless shelter, but deer the greatest of all time. Well, that's a little much. The people complaining about Nazis in the Sydney Sweeney ads seem like they dipped into the PETA principle. Pet has no power unless they declare ratings wings at Super Bowl Is the chicken holocaust or Thanksgiving is a turkey holocaust? Nobody right? Nobody looks twice at them unless they declare something an animal holocaust.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep.

[Katie Green]

Same with the jeans ad. They declare it mildly problematic. They don't get noticed. They declare Adolf Sweeney Soft heads in the Soft heads in the media take notice. Alas, we are doomed. Well, you're right about that, brother. Thanks for the note. Wow, this one will leave you sad. Probably shouldn't end the hour on I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ordered some of those Nazi jeans. I'll be wearing them next week.

[Katie Green]

Excellent. Rich writes I use Suno to create I used Suno to create three songs this week. That's the AI song making thing. And it triggered an unexpected existential crisis. As a hobbyist, I write silly songs about work to entertain entertain my co workers. Here's what happened. Number one Work Song after months of crafting lyrics and music, I ran the lyrics through SUNO on a whim and it produced a banger. My friends loved it. I laughed too. But something felt off. Two Band Rant I drunkenly ranted about my inactive band and fed it to Suno. It turned into another great song, one my band now wants to play again. It felt strange. Anniversary song?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think.

[Katie Green]

No lyrics. I gave Grok a rough outline of a cowork workers love story. Minutes later, I had a touching song that made them laugh and cry. Each song impressed the others, but the ease of creation left me feeling empty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course, yeah, you get none of the artists. I created something Satisfaction.

[Katie Green]

Which is why you produce art.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's why everybody produces art.

[Katie Green]

It's not so there's art. We don't need more songs. There are enough of them. It's the act of producing it that is the Joy.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

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