Go West Young Man...

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Go West Young Man...
Date: August 18, 2025
Host(s): Armstrong & Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this reflective and humorous episode, Armstrong & Getty delve into the decline of American geographic mobility—why people no longer "go west" (or anywhere) for new opportunities as they once did. Drawing on a past discussion and an influential Atlantic article, the hosts explore why Americans are moving less, the historical roots of American restlessness, the cultural phenomenon of "Moving Day," and the impact of urban preservationist policies on modern life. They balance serious social commentary with playful banter about family dynamics, nostalgia, and time travel.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: The Realities of the Bathroom Scale

Timestamps: 03:07 – 05:14

• Getty laments the “meanness” of his bathroom scale after late-night indulgences:

  “I don't know if it thinks I stole its wife or something, but the scale, so mean to me.” — Getty (03:23)

• Both joke about trying to outsmart their scales and the futility of ignoring basic reality. Armstrong compares cycling through scales to a famous political anecdote:

  “I'll do like Trump did with the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Lady, I don’t like these numbers. I'm gonna get a different scale.” — Getty (04:27)

• Discussion about families with multiple bathroom scales for each member, which Getty finds excessive clutter unless one has a “huge bathroom” (05:08).

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2. Americans Aren’t Moving Like They Used To

Timestamps: 08:43 – 19:52

• Armstrong highlights a new low in Americans moving for better jobs, referencing an Atlantic article titled "Progressive Froze the American Dream."

  • The mythos of America: historically a highly mobile society unlike Europe or Asia where villages remain static.
  • Quote from historian Carl Becker on America’s cultural tolerance due to ceaseless migration:

    “This is the only nation in the world that would say something like, ‘Howdy, stranger.’” — Armstrong quoting Becker (11:38)

• Getty reflects on his upbringing in a “moving family,” missing out on extended family proximity, and how that impacts his kids. While he longs for close-knit family ties, he acknowledges fewer people seem to prioritize them today:

  “I see other people that have that in their lifestyle. It looks so awesome. But...people seem to care less about family than they ever have.” — Getty (09:46)

• The double-edged sword of family proximity: Armstrong points out that closeness can also create friction:

  “I know more than one person who is driven completely insane by the proximity of their family and the need to deal with them on a regular basis...you can’t choose your family.” — Armstrong (10:25)

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3. The Forgotten Ritual of “Moving Day”

Timestamps: 11:41 – 18:07

• Armstrong shares historical insights from the Atlantic article about “Moving Day,” a once-widespread American quasi-holiday observed mostly in urban areas during 19th and early 20th centuries.

  • On a single date (often May 1st, but varied by city), a mass exodus as families moved houses almost ritualistically, leading to street scenes of chaos and camaraderie:

    “It was a festival of new hopes and beginnings, of shattered dreams and shattered crockery.” — Armstrong quoting a Chicago paper (12:39)

  • Anecdotes of chaos:

    “Thermopylae was a very tame pass compared with the excitement which rises when two families meet in the same hall.” — Armstrong quoting a Brooklyn minister (15:16)

  • The hosts tie this ritual to modern rental markets—how move-in/move-out days are synchronized in college towns and resort destinations.

• Jaw-dropping statistic:

  “Back in 1906...over a five year span, 80% of local families [in St. Louis] would have changed addresses.” — Armstrong (17:44)

  • Getty is stunned, calling it “a completely different lifestyle” (18:07).

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4. The Impact of Urban Preservationism

Timestamps: 18:09 – 19:52

• Armstrong critiques so-called progressive policies since the 1960s/70s that halted the "remaking" of neighborhoods, arguing this “freezing in amber” led to modern housing shortages:

  “America would say, ‘yeah, we want to...tear down what is not efficient and build what is efficient...’ But the progressives said, ‘no, we can’t do that.’ ... It is the NIMBY nature of lefties and how they fall in love with a particular look... So why are you freezing it in amber?” — Armstrong (18:09)

• Amusing take on American vs. European attitudes:

  “Somebody once said to me, they were talking about Rome, and they said, yeah, we tear down our coliseums so nobody, no future civilization will ever visit our coliseums, because we just tear them down and build something new, which is better.” — Armstrong (19:38)

• Getty wraps up: “Everything was very different back in 1906.” (19:52)

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5. Nostalgia, Time Travel, & Final Reflections

Timestamps: 20:03 – 21:15

• The hosts daydream about visiting 1906 San Francisco, referencing modern colorized film footage and the allure of time travel:

  “If you had a time machine, you could go back and just, like, walk around the street someplace. It'd be endlessly fascinating.” — Getty (20:28)

  • Armstrong and Getty joke about the risks ("scratch yourself on a rusty nail and you'll be dead...because there's no antibiotics," Getty at 20:51).
  • Amusing, philosophical banter about whether vaccinations would accompany you in a time machine (21:10).

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Notable Quotes

• On trying to fool the scale:
  “The funny thing about the scale is...this weird sense that I have that I can, you know, slip one by the scale somehow, you know, I'll eat this one. Really. It shouldn’t eat this sort of thing, right?” — Getty (03:31)
• On family proximity:
  “I got to believe overall, the upside would be better than the downside.” — Getty (10:41)
• On American mobility:
  “The ceaseless migration that we have shaped a new way of thinking…This is the only nation in the world that would say something like, ‘Howdy, stranger.’” — Armstrong (11:38)
• On Moving Day:
  “It was a festival of new hopes and beginnings, of shattered dreams and shattered crockery, as a Chicago newspaper put it in 1882.” — Armstrong (12:39)
• On housing policies:
  “It is the NIMBY nature of lefties and how they fall in love with a particular look...So why are you freezing it in amber?” — Armstrong (18:09)
• On nostalgia for another era:
  “I think I wish my kids would have been able to be around cousins and stuff a lot. But I am raising my kids certainly with the idea if you can't find the job you want here and you probably can't go to where it is.” — Getty (17:32)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Bathroom scale woes & food guilt: 03:07–05:14
• Decline of American migration: 08:43–11:38
• History & spectacle of “Moving Day”: 11:41–18:07
• Family, proximity, and generational differences: 16:09–17:44
• Critique of urban preservation and NIMBYism: 18:09–19:52
• 1906 nostalgia, time machines & final musings: 20:03–21:15

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Tone & Style

The conversation features the signature Armstrong & Getty blend of dry wit, cultural curiosity, and casual storytelling. They mix history-fueled reflection with relatable, sometimes self-deprecating humor—all while maintaining a sense of nostalgia and inquisitiveness about both American character and their own family experiences.

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Takeaway

"Go West Young Man..." offers an entertaining yet insightful meditation on American mobility—how it shaped the nation, why it’s ebbing, and what’s lost (or gained) when people stop chasing new horizons. History, policy, and family life intersect throughout the episode, revealing how yesterday’s customs shape today’s choices.

Transcript

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[Armstrong]

I don't wanna. It's one more thing.

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Armstrong and Getty.

[Armstrong]

One more thing.

[Getty]

So before we get to that, man, the scale was mean to me this morning. I mean, mean, I don't know if.

[Armstrong]

It thinks I stole it.

[Getty]

I don't know if it thinks I stole its wife or something, but the scale, so mean to me.

[Armstrong]

Brutal.

[Getty]

I wonder if it has anything to do with going to Denny's in the middle of the night the other night after taking the dog to the vet, or the fact that I had ice cream twice. The funny thing about the scale is it's just, I mean, it's so reality based, obviously. And this weird sense that I have that I can, you know, slip one by the scale somehow, you know, I'll eat this one. Really. It shouldn't eat this sort of thing, right?

[Armstrong]

Just pull a fast one.

[Getty]

Yeah, I'll pull a fast one. The scale won't notice. It's so hilarious. Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. And it never works, the whole vacation thing, you know, it's calories don't count and all, or, you know, it's been stressful and it'll be fine. I mean, because it was a stressful day. I'm up late.

[Getty]

Whatever. Screw scale. I'm gonna get a new scale. Throw this one in the trash and get a new one. Gives me better numbers. I'll do like Trump did with the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Lady, I don't like these numbers. I'm gonna get different scale. It gives me better numbers.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, you're fired. I'll just keep going through scales. Yep. You got a stack of them out back rusting into the rain.

[Getty]

Yeah, I heard somebody talking about that the other day. They said in their family they have a bunch of scales the bathroom because members of the family have some sort of wearable that communicates with the scale. And to make it simple, they just each have their own scale. So it had like four scales in the bathroom. And he said if he doesn't get a good number on his scale, sometimes he gets on a different one to.

[Armstrong]

See if it's better. Wow, that's a lot of clutter unless you got an enormous bathroom.

[Getty]

Yeah. Huh.

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[Armstrong]

Learn [e-mail] so mention during the radio show today that the number of Americans who move to pursue a better gig is dropped to like the all time low as far as anybody can tell. And I made reference to an article we talked about it had to be at least, oh it was a long time ago about how progressive froze the American dream in the Atlantic and it talked about how nobody's moving like we used to as a people. It's really interesting. It's long, it's the Atlantic, of course, but all sorts of different quotes from historians and observers of the American scene. And the one thing that strikes everybody is how mobile we are and how you don't like grow up in the same village your your family's been in for 250 years and you never leave there. And anybody who comes there is viewed with great suspicion because what are you doing here? This is our village. And how America's not like that at all.

[Getty]

No, it never has been up until now, I guess. But it's funny, it just popped into my head. One one of them, not one of the number one thing I don't like about the fact that I came from a moving family as a kid and now as an adult is the lack of other family being around. I didn't grow up near cousins and grandparents. My kids aren't growing up nearing cousins and grandparents and I see other people that have that in their lifestyle. It looks so awesome. But we're not getting married and having kids and people seem to care less about family than they ever have. So the moving hasn't stopped because of that. It's got to be other reasons.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. It's also worth pointing out I know more than one person who is driven completely insane by the proximity of their family and the need to deal with them on a regular basis, whether they like to or not. Because yeah, you know, you can't choose your family.

[Getty]

I hear those complaints, but I got to believe overall, the upside would be better than the downside.

[Armstrong]

Depends who you ask. But yeah, I see your point. So this is one of my favorite parts about this article. Then I'll get to the main thing that I wanted to bring to you, but that when Ceaseless migration. I'm sorry? The ceaseless migration that we have shaped a new way of thinking when the mobility of populations was always so great, the historian Carl Becker observed the strange face, the odd speech, the curious custom of dress, and the unaccustomed religious faith CE to be a matter of comment or concern. And as people live to learn, learn to live alongside one another, the possibilities of pluralism or something like it opened the term stranger in other lands, synonymous with enemy instead, wrote Becker wrote, became a common form of friendly salutation. This is the only nation in the world that would say something like, howdy, stranger.

[Getty]

Oh, that's true. Yeah, interesting.

[Armstrong]

I thought that was kind of cool in a way. But anyway, the main reason I wanted to bring this up is the concept of Moving Day. And and again, we talked about this months and months ago, but the great American holiday, the great holiday of American society at its most nomadic, was Moving Day, observed by renters and landlords throughout the 19th century and well into the 20th. And it's funny, there's a nickname for Saturday on the PGA Tour. It's moving Day, because you try to get higher in the standings, whatever, but and I've always heard that expression, but I'd never knew known what it meant really. So 19th, 20th century moving day was a festival of new hopes and beginnings, of shattered dreams and shattered crockery, as a Chicago newspaper put it in 1882. Quite as recognized today as Christmas or the 4th of July. It was primarily an urban holiday, although many rural communities where least farms predominated, held their own observances. The dates differed from state to state and city to City. It's April 1st in Pittsburgh, October 1st in Nashville and New Orleans. But May 1st was the most popular, and nothing quite so astonished visitors from abroad as the spectacle of thousands upon thousands of people picking up and swapping homes on a single day.

[Getty]

I assume everybody has the same question to me, why did that happen? I mean, why, how did everybody agree that we're going to move on the same day?

[Armstrong]

It just, it came to zwa. Exactly. Leases, just landlords. I mean, there's an obvious incentive for having all of your potential renters be available on the same day that your current renters depart.

[Getty]

Oh, yeah, I know. I live in a college town. That's the way it is now as a renter. That's exactly the way it is. You, you go whatever it is. Like next week is when the college kids come to town and the leases start. And that's just the way it is every year.

[Armstrong]

Right? Yeah. I live in a resortee place. And Saturday mornings outbound, when all the condos and timeshares and hotels empty is crazy traffic. And Saturday afternoon inbound is crazy because everybody's showing up to do their rentals. But if I'm renting a condo out, it's perfect. Everybody knows it's Saturday. Check out at 11, check in at 4 or whatever. And so that's what evolved because we were such a mobile people. Huge percentages of people moved every day. And I've got those numbers around here somewhere. It's, you know, again, it's a very long article with the, the numbers kind of spread here hither and yon, but so it just came to be that moving day was the day everybody moved in whatever city. For months before moving day, Americans prepared for the occasion. Tenants gave notice to the landlords or received word of their new rent. Then followed a frenzied period of house hunting as people, generally women, scouted for a new place to live that would, in some respect, improve upon the old quote. They want more room or they want as much room for less rent, or they want a better location, or they want some convenience not heretofore enjoyed. The Topeka Daily Capital summarized. There were months of general anticipation. Cities and towns were alive with excitement. Then early on the day itself, people commenced moving everything they owned down to the street corners in great piles of barrels and crates and carpet bags, vacating houses and apartments before the new renters arrived. Be out at 12 you must, for another. Another family are on your heels, blah, blah, blah. And my God, we were so much more literate back in the days. And Thermopylae was a very tame pass compared with the excitement which rises when two families meet in the same hall. A Brooklyn minister warned. Then the Carmen, driving their wagons and drays through the narrow roads, exchanged charged, extortionate rates, lashing mattresses and furnishings atop other heaps. Of goods and careening through the streets to complete as many runs as they could before nightfall. And treasure hunters picked up the detritus in the gutters as stuff fell off the wagons. Utility companies scrambled to register all the changes. Dusk found families that had made local moves, settling into their new homes, unpacking belongings and meeting the neighbors.

[Getty]

Joe and I have both come from moving families, moved a lot of as adults. Katie, did you. Are all your relatives around?

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[Armstrong]

Not all of my relatives were around, but we stayed in the Same Town for 32 years of my life.

[Getty]

Yeah. See, that's unimaginable to me.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. I mean. Oh yeah.

[Getty]

Just. I just can't even picture what it would be like. Michael, I know you've stayed in the same spot.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Pretty much like Katie. Yeah.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Everybody knows everything and you can't go to the grocery store without seeing somebody, you know.

[Getty]

Yeah. Which is either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how you look at it. I had a girlfriend years ago who she had. Everybody was in the same area and she would talk about, oh boy, here comes, here comes fall. Because for whatever reason, there are lots of like cousins with birthdays and anniversaries and there's this like eight weekends in a row where everybody was expected to be at grandma's house because it's somebody's birthday or an anniversary or something. It was just like took up two months and she was trying to decide whether she wanted to tell her parents, you know, I'm not going to do all of them this year. I think I. I think I just can't because it was kind of expected that everybody showed up for everybody's birthday and I didn't. I don't have that at all in my life. And you know, for better or worse, a lot of it I think is worse. I wish, I wish my kids would have been able to be around cousins and stuff a lot. But I am raising my kids certainly with the idea if you can't find the job you want here and you probably can't go to where it is.

[Armstrong]

Sure. Yeah. So back in 1906, for instance, over a five year span. This is in St. Louis, Greater St. Louis. Over a five year span, 80% of local families would have changed addresses.

[Getty]

That's amazing.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. They might have stayed in the same metro area or the same county or whatever, but they would move.

[Getty]

That's a completely different lifestyle.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. It was different world in a lot of different ways. And actually the point of this article, which is an opportunity to take a Shot at progressives, which you may recall from the first time we discussed that was in New York City in, like, the 60s and 70s. Progressives came into neighborhoods and decided this should be preserved just as it is. We can't lose the quaint character of this neighborhood. And America would say, yeah, we want to update it, we want to improve it. We want to tear down what is not efficient and build what is efficient and do what we've always done as a country. But the progressives said, no, we can't do that. That's ugly and blah, blah, blah. And that is what caused a lot of the shortages of housing in our cities. And, you know, it's true. And they make a really, really good case. And it is the NIMBY nature of lefties and how they fall in love with a particular look. Never mind that that neighborhood didn't look like that 20 years before, because that wasn't the right use for that neighborhood. They didn't need as many, you know, shops and boutiques. They needed whatever. And 20 years from now, they'll need completely different stuff. So why are you freezing it in amber? Well, because it's Sweden. I live here, and I want to protect my property value. At the same time, somebody once said to me, they were talking about Rome, and they said, yeah, we tear down our coliseums so nobody, no future civilization will ever visit our coliseums, because we just tear them down and build something new, which is better.

[Getty]

I don't know. You win with the comment that everything was very different back in 1906.

[Armstrong]

It was very, very different. Computers were very slow.

[Getty]

No WI fi at all.

[Armstrong]

No, WI fi was. Was spotty at best. Coverage was spotty. The iPhone, cameras were crap. Pixels, 12 pixels, period.

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[Armstrong]

My wife and I ran into this yesterday, ironically.

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1906, San Francisco.

[Armstrong]

They have footage of what it was.

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Like in San Francisco in 1906.

[Armstrong]

It's amazing.

[Getty]

Yeah, it is. It is. If you've seen it slowed down and colorized, it's just incredible. Yeah, I love stuff like that. I. If you had a time machine, you could go back and just, like, walk around the street someplace. It would be. It'd be endlessly fascinating.

[Armstrong]

Pick a new time, like, every week. Do it a few times a year.

[Getty]

Of course, you scratch yourself on a rusty nail and you'll be dead by the end of the day because there's no antibiotics, but there's.

[Armstrong]

That should have been more careful. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. No, there are no antibiotics. It's a good point. But if you had a tetanus shot, that would go with you to to the other time, right?

[Getty]

Right. Well, I guess. I don't know. How do time machines work? Do your vaccinations go with you in the time machine? I assume they.

[Armstrong]

Oh sure they do. What? I don't know. Why would they? Well, something to think about, I guess. That's it.

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