Great Googly Moogly!

Summary

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Episode: Great Googly Moogly!
Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into several hot-button cultural and political issues, focusing heavily on evolving climate change narratives, the impact of AI on jobs and society, and ideological tensions within American politics. Highlights include a deep analysis of a major climate change rethink by key environmentalists, a discussion about the dangers of political extremism (left and Islamist), the social and economic implications of artificial intelligence, and the shifting culture wars over masculinity and youth behavior.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Media Shifts on the Democratic Left (00:55–03:30, 22:00–27:00)

• Media’s “Permission” to Criticize the Left Flank:
  • Hosts observe a coordinated tone among mainstream and right-leaning outlets (NY Times, Politico, WSJ) finally acknowledging the self-defeating nature of extreme left activism within the Democratic Party.
  • Quote (C, 00:55):

    “The Democratic media establishment has gotten permission...to say our left flank are lunatics and are going to ruin the party.”

• Impacts of Leftist Activism:
  • Discussion about the Boulder, CO mayor’s climate lawsuit against oil companies as an example of overreach, labeled as “preposterous” and legally dubious.
  • Observing signs that moderate/liberal voices are beginning to challenge the far-left’s grip on key policy debates.

Rethinking Climate Change Catastrophe (03:30–10:46)

• Ted Nordhaus’s Essay: “I Thought Climate Change Would End the World. I Was Wrong.”
  • Nordhaus, a once-apocalyptic climate thinker, now rejects the direst predictions, citing lower birth rates, slower-than-forecast economic growth, and rapid decarbonization.
  • Quote (C, 04:19):

    “My worldview is built on apocalyptic models sprung from faulty assumptions.”

• Changing Metrics on Climate Risk:
  • Hosts highlight 96% drop in climate/weather disaster mortality per capita (06:21) and the lowest climate-related mortality ever (07:12).
  • Modern advancements in construction, warnings, and fossil-fueled tech credited as saving lives.
• Entrenched Climate Advocacy:
  • Speculation on why environmental movements resist updating their worldview: money, identity (“religion”).
  • The dangers of cancel culture and academic intolerance for dissenting scientific views:
    • Quote (C, 09:21):

      “That is the most diametrically against science thing you could possibly do in science, is to ostracize someone for disagreeing and saying, ‘hey, we need to take another look at the data.’”

Social Trends: Facial Circumcisions & Dangerous Concerts (12:05–16:53, 28:05–29:52)

• Facial Circumcisions ("The Old FC"):
  • The rise of surgical face-lifts due to “Ozempic face” and new social media norms.
  • Commentary on societal values toward appearance and aging—maintaining the hosts’ irreverent tone.
  • Quote (A, 14:40):

    “It’s basically a facelift, but it’s talking about the popularity of it because of Ozempic face...like, you cut your toenails if they're too long. Why wouldn't you cut off skin if you got too much?”

• Dangers/Appeal of Modern Concert Environments:
  • Mosh pits at rap and pop shows attract upper-middle-class kids seeking “danger adjacent” thrills (28:52–29:52).
  • Framed in the context of the “Great Feminization” of America—boys drawn to risk where it is culturally suppressed.

Anti-Semitism, Islamism, and Political Alliances in NYC (17:39–27:56)

• Potential First Communist Mayor, Zoran Mamdani:
  • Hosts express alarm about Mamdani’s influence, describing a “Red-Green Alliance” of Communism and Islamism.
  • Quote (A, 17:49):

    “More craziness from Mum Donnie, who's going to be the first communist mayor of a major city in America.”

  • Concerns about his effect on Jewish safety in New York, with supporting quotes from prominent rabbis and Wall Street Journal editorials documenting increased anti-Semitic violence.
  • Critique of leftist discourse on the Israel–Gaza conflict, and the “dangerous” shifting of the Overton window on criticizing Islamism.
  • Quote (C, 27:18):

    “[There’s] an increased permission structure for people to say, you know, the woke crap. I never bought it. I was just afraid to say so.”

The Impact of AI on Jobs and Society (31:14–36:34)

• Massive Job Losses Predicted:
  • New York Times reporting Amazon aims to eliminate 600,000 warehouse jobs by automating 75% of tasks by 2033.
  • Quote (A, 31:44):

    “600,000 jobs will be eliminated at Amazon by AI in the next seven and a half years. Wow. Wow is right.”

• Zuckerberg’s AI Ambitions:
  • Meta (Facebook) laying off 600 lower-tier AI employees—not due to lack of faith in AI, but to replace them with top global talent at extraordinary salaries (up to hundreds of millions of dollars per recruit).
  • Focus on “superintelligence,” not just AGI—the prospect of machines vastly smarter than any human.
  • Quote (C, 33:22):

    “Googly moogly!”

  • Quote (A, 34:17):

    “Super intelligence is the idea of AI being just vastly smarter than human beings have ever been ... if it happens soon, I seriously can't even imagine how mankind survives it.”

• Bubble or Transformation?
  • Speculates if the AI hiring frenzy is a tech bubble, with the hosts split and general uncertainty in the field.
  • Some guests on the show previously argued that new jobs will eventually emerge, echoing past technological disruptions, but the hosts are skeptical.

Personal and Cultural Anecdotes: AI in Daily Life & Clever Banter (36:34–39:32)

• Practical Uses of AI:
  • Hosts share their experiences using AI (ChatGPT, Grok) to make purchasing decisions, marveling at convenience and information synthesis.
  • Quote (A, 36:34):

    “I know that I use AI regularly and I'm just absolutely amazed by it...the amount of information it gave me and boiling it all down was amazing.”

• AI & Personality:
  • Humorous argument with Grok about whether Yoko Ono is talented, reflecting on how quickly we anthropomorphize AI.
  • Quote (A & C, 37:56–38:10):

    “She said, that's fine. I'll talk to you later...I'm so convinced. Like, look at you. You’re appalled by this. It's a freaking computer voice.”

• Show’s Tone and Self-Deprecation:
  • The episode closes with trademark Armstrong & Getty banter, dark humor (“Either way, we’re doomed. Planet of the Apes or beavers or ants or something…”), and reminders to listen to earlier podcasts for thematic continuity—especially on the Great Feminization of America.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Media Shifts Leftward:
  “The Democratic media establishment has gotten permission...to say our left flank are lunatics and are going to ruin the party.” —C (00:55)
• Climate Rethink:
  “My worldview is built on apocalyptic models sprung from faulty assumptions.” —C (04:19, quoting Ted Nordhaus)
• Climate Disasters Drop:
  “Global mortality from climate and weather extremes has fallen by more than 96% on a PER capita basis.” —C (06:21)
• Cancel Culture in Science:
  “That is the most diametrically against science thing you could possibly do in science, is to ostracize someone for disagreeing...” —C (09:21)
• Ozempic Face/Facial Circumcisions:
  “It’s basically a facelift…you cut your toenails if they're too long. Why wouldn't you cut off skin if you got too much?” —A (14:40)
• AI Reshaping Labor:
  “600,000 jobs will be eliminated at Amazon by AI in the next seven and a half years. Wow.” —A (31:44)
• AI Superintelligence:
  “I seriously can't even imagine how mankind survives it.” —A (34:17)
• Googly Moogly!
  “Googly moogly!” —C (33:22)
  (the source of the episode’s title, exclaimed in reaction to insane AI salaries)
• Red-Green Alliance Threat:
  “Mum is an Islamist as well as a communist. It's the Red Green alliance which we've talked about before in one person.” —C (18:06)
• Masculinity & Danger:
  “It's like the running of the bulls in Pamplona. You want to be there and kind of be danger adjacent...it's like young men going off to war back when that was more of a thing.” —A (28:56)
• Woke Fatigue & Preference Cascade:
  “I'm feeling like there's an increased permission structure for people to say, you know, the woke crap. I never bought it. I was just afraid to say so. Could this be the great preference cascade we’ve talked about before?” —C (27:18)
• AI Argument with Grok:
  “If this segment of the podcast is not labeled Jack argues with Grok about Yoko Ono, I am resigning my post.” —C (38:45)

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Additional Segments

• Sports and Jets Fandom (13:24–14:02): A moment of sports misery and comedic resignation over the Jets' perpetual failures.
• Shifting Jewish Safety in NYC (17:39–27:00): Sober reflections on the risk of increased antisemitism under Mamdani’s possible leadership, illustrated with editorial and first-hand accounts.
• Today’s Podcast Plugs & Humorous Wrap-up: Regular reminders to check archived shows for continuous themes and further discussion (“Great Feminization of America,” etc.).

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Conclusion

“Great Googly Moogly!” is a fast-paced, irreverent episode that blends cultural commentary, political criticism, and tech anxiety. Armstrong & Getty challenge prevailing orthodoxies—especially on climate, gender politics, and technology—while finding humor in the absurd and concern in the profound. The show is a must-listen for those seeking critical yet comedic takes on current affairs and cultural transformations.

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For more:

• “Great Feminization of America” segment: Hour 2 of October 21, 2025
• Hotlinks and referenced essays: armstrongandgetty.com under Hotlinks

Transcript

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at.

[B]

The George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[C]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. More than a dozen airports across the country have refused to play a video of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem at TSA checkpoints. It just really riles up the dogs.

[A]

I had forgotten about that story.

[C]

Take me a second. That's a hell of a. That's a funny joke. I get jokes, a couple of words about the whole climate change thing.

[A]

Oh, you know what?

[C]

Before I get to that, it's become clear to me, I don't know who blew the whistle or what, but the Democratic media establishment has gotten permission or looked around and given itself permission to say our left flank are lunatics and are going to ruin the party. And we gotta stop that. New York Times with a big article about that today. And Jonathan Martin, the senior political communist for Politico, out with a piece entitled something or other. What is it? Democrats keep falling for political fantasies. When will they learn?

[A]

Well, that's interesting. And then the Wall Street Journal, which leans right, they've got an opinion piece on. Hey, Democrats, wake up. The mainstream media is doing you more harm than good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And yeah, it's interesting.

[C]

Yeah, Somebody, whether spoken or unspoken, said, hey now, now we got to do this. Maybe it was after the big no Kings protest and everybody just laughed at it except the people who were there and charged up about it. Anyway, so speaking of that sort of thing, National Review had a piece about the mayor, the woke mayor of Boulder, Colorado, Aaron Brockett. He's made so called social justice his whole public career. Website of Boulder, which is a very woke town, very. It says as part of the city's commitment to advancing racial equity, Mayor Brockett has attended the advancing racial equity role of government and bias and microaggression trainings. So you can trust him. Uh, what makes no sense, they write in the National Review, is that this, this mayor wants to have the power to remake national, even global energy policy. So he has filed suit against oil companies saying the problems of fossil fuels have hurt Boulder and therefore the energy companies owe Boulder. And they point out the the suit and others like it is preposterous on its face and threatens our economic well being and constitutional order. But the Colorado Supreme Court has allowed the suit to go forward despite the fact that it is a clear attempt to supersede federal environmental regulations. And the U.S. supreme Court is now considering whether to grant cert in the case. And Take up the novel and consequential issues it pre presents. Boulder has asserted specifically that the oil companies have committed a public nuisance. Boulder has asserted claims for public and private nuisance, trespass, unjust enrichment and civil conspiracy. Anyway, it doesn't. What they're claiming doesn't fit any of the legal definitions and it's ridiculous that the Colorado Supreme Court let it go. But that is the state of woke environmental. Well, not even environmental like climate change activism. And I came across this virtually at the same time that article came out. And it's written by Ted Nordhaus, who if you are super into the climate change thing, you might recognize his name. He was a climate expert, a scientist and author, and he's written a piece for the Free Press entitled I Thought Climate Change would End the World. I was wrong. My worldview is built on apocalyptic models sprung from faulty assumptions.

[A]

It always really gets my attention when people go against their own previous position because you can really trust them most likely on that in a lot of cases.

[C]

Yeah, if they're so convinced of their new point of view and concerned that they had led people wrong that they're saying, hey, remember when I said that I was wrong, I was totally wrong. Yeah, that, that makes an impression really. Interestingly, he co wrote his big 2000 book breakthrough with Michael Shellenberger. Anyway, the, the great investigative journalist he I used to argue that if the world kept burning fossil fuels at current rates, catastrophe was virtually assured. Quote, the heating of the earth will cause the sea levels to rise and the Amazon to collapse and according to scenarios commissioned by the Pentagon will trigger a series of wars over the basic resources and water. No, that was back in 07. Right. He says, I no longer believe this hyperbole. At the time, I, like most climate experts, thought that business as usual admissions would lead to around 5 degrees of warming by the end of this century. That assumption was never plausible. It assumed high population growth, high economic growth and slow technological change. But fertility rates have been falling, global economic growth is slowing, and the global economy's been decarbonizing for decades. Nor is there good reason to think that the combination of these three trends could possibly be sustained in concert. And he goes into some of the practicalities of Heightened economic growth is strongly associated with falling fertility rates. Technological change is the primary driver of long term economic growth.

[A]

We were talking about fertility in hour one and how Europe's going the wrong direction by a lot. But yeah, we're probably at the about the peak of world population and then it's going to start Going down.

[C]

Yeah. And he points about how. Points out how the worst case scenarios are much, much less bad now. Good.

[A]

I'm glad I kind of quietly.

[C]

Yeah. Moves a goalpost. And he says this is all the more confounding given the good news. Extends well beyond projections of long term warming. Despite close to a degree and a half of warming over the last century. Global mortality. Listen to this, folks. Global mortality from climate and weather extremes has fallen by more than 96% on a PER capita basis.

[A]

Was that because world is. Don't get hit in the head with a falling beam in a hurricane because we just build things better. Is it a lot of that or there's.

[C]

Yeah, there's a lot of that. Yeah. You could make the argument that modernity, which has been fueled by fossil fuels has been way, way, way better for protecting human lives than any downside, which I think is his point. He said the world is on track this year for what is almost certainly the lowest level of climate related mortality in recorded human history.

[A]

Wow. Wow. That's quite a stat given the fact that, you know, if there's a hurricane, climate change because it ate dead and because of climate change, but we're going to have the lowest number of people dead due to climate. Since they've been keeping track.

[C]

Experts say the tornado across Missouri is an example of climate change. We when any responsible scientist will tell you it is impossible to attribute an individual weather phenomenon to climate change. Anyway, just to finish his thought, yes, the economic costs of climate extremes continue to rise, but this is almost entirely due to affluence, population growth and the migration of global populations toward climate hazards, mainly cities and coastal regions and floodplains. So the far more interesting question is not why my colleagues and I at the Breakthrough Institute have revised our priors about climate risk, but why so many progressive environmentalists have not. And you know, it's such a good piece.

[A]

Well, I got two reasons.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

One, you're in on the making money part of it, so you don't want to go away. And then two, it was your religion and who wants to give up their religion?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. He talks about the narrative. The Harem Scaram Al Gore narrative conflicts with existing evidence, including data collected by political scientist and former environmental studies Professor Roger Pilkey Jr. His work going back to the mid-90s showed again and again that the normalized economic costs of climate related disasters, when adjusted for wealth and economic growth, growth were not increasing despite the documented warming of the climate. Here's the part that might tie back to Yesterday's show when we were talking about the great feminization of America and how cancel culture is a very feminine phenomenon, he writes. The reason for my shift in opinion wasn't only that Pilkey had produced strong evidence that undermined a key claim of the climate advocacy community. It wasn't even witnessing Pilkey's cancellation, which was brutal. It was, it was rather that I came to understand why you couldn't find a climate change signal in the disaster lost data despite close to a degree and a half of warming or last century. And then he goes into some technical stuff that takes a little bit of time to explain. But I just appreciated him reminding us of the brutal ostracis, ostracization and cancellation that takes place in science. If you have quote unquote the wrong opinion and that is the most diametrically uns, you know, against science thing you could possibly do in science is to ostracize someone for disagreeing and saying, hey, we need to take another look at the data or collect more data. That's an example of what I can never remember a name.

[A]

Pretty obviously though, you were not Helen.

[C]

Andrews was writing about in the Great Feminization.

[A]

You were not going to keep your job in academia or get grants in academia if you were going to say, you know, I'm not sure about this whole climate change thing, obviously.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's a good piece. I think you might get paywalled. We'll post it at armstrong and getty.com under hotlinks. And again, for the umpteenth time, if you did not hear the segment on the Great feminization yesterday, it's October 21st, hour two and October and also the 21st. Hot Links has Helen Andrews essay if you'd like to read it yourself.

[A]

What do we have there, Michael?

[C]

Prize picks.

[A]

Prize picks. Yeah. Should have gone more on Luka Doncic last night. Maybe for the whole season. Price pitch is an opportunity to take your strong sports opinions and turn them into cash. Whether we're talking World Series, which starts this Friday, or obviously the NFL season, we're right in the midst of it. And basketball just started.

[C]

Yeah, I got a full slate of basketball games tonight. All you do is pick two players or more and say less or more on their stat projections. It's easy, it's fun. And if you download the Prize Picks app today and use Code armstrong to get 50 bucks in lineups, you get $50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup, it's automatic. You don't need to win, you use the Code Armstrong. They give you $50 worth of lineups after you play just a $5 lineup.

[A]

And price Picks has something called stacks where you can pick the same player. Like Steph Curry. You could do points, three pointers and assists for instance.

[C]

Right? And you can combine players from different sports for your lineup. So you know you got a theory on the Thursday night football and basketball game. Go ahead. Prize picks use that Code Armstrong for that fifty dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Prize Picks it's good to be right.

[A]

Why are so many people getting what influencers are calling facial circumcisions? Why has that become a thing?

[C]

Did not see that coming.

[A]

Who would? Who would have predicted I was going to say that? Nobody.

[C]

The old fc.

[A]

The old fc. Why are people getting them? It's pretty obvious if you think about it for a second. And other news on the way. Stay here.

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[A]

See if I can get your thoughts on the game.

[C]

I hate this team. I was born into this and I'm not going to ever. I'm always a Jets fan but like I just. I hate this team.

[A]

So that somebody interviewed a fan after the jets game the other day. You don't have to be a fan of the NFL to hear this. The jets are own seven. They're the only winless team and they're. They're looking like according to experts, like one of the all time worst teams. Not just, not just bad but like shockingly bad.

[C]

So yeah, there you go. They need no owner Trade for a.

[A]

New owner before we get to facial circumcisions. What was the other thing? I don't even remember what the other thing was.

[C]

Sometimes I think you bring things up just to shock. I don't appreciate it. It's childish.

[A]

I'll do facial circumcisions first. Yeah. And yes, I do bring things up just to shock, but it's. The name of it is shocking. It's basically a facelift, but it's talking about the popularity of it because of Ozempic face. People losing weight and having all that extra skin. And this influencer making the argument like, you cut your toenails if they're too long. Why wouldn't you cut off skin if you got too much? I mean, I don't understand why this is even a question.

[C]

A good point. Wow.

[A]

It is. I don't know if it's considered major surgery, but it is surgery.

[C]

Oh, yeah. It's a pretty serious deal.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm gonna be at a plastic surgeon today, as a matter of fact, getting my stitches out of my nose. Maybe I get a boob lift while I'm in. I don't know.

[A]

It is a problem, though. When you lose weight. You look older. You often look worse. Your face anyway. And so that's. That's a drag. I mean, you know, you put in all that effort and everything like that to make your body look better or you're cared about health. I don't care about health.

[C]

I just want to look better. But. But I've elected to stay porky. It really fills in the lines.

[A]

It does. It absolutely does. You look worse when you lose weight, which sucks. Another one of nature's and God's cruel trick. Why does God hate us so? So Sora is one of the worst things to happen to mankind. We're headed that direction anyway. That's the new social media app that is all AI videos. Like my son, my 13 year old, he even said himself, I got to limit myself on this because it's just too damned entertaining scrolling through all the AI videos that get posted every single day. But I saw one last night. I got some site that like gives you the best five sorrow videos of the day. And it takes a total of a minute to watch all five of them. As long as you stop, what's the big deal? But stopping. And it's like eating one potato chip. But the one I liked so much. With baseball season going on right now, I don't know what year it was. It looked like mid-70s playoff baseball. It's probably Yankees, Dodgers or Red Sox or whoever. And Elvis is at the plate and he's in full. He's in full. And it's a wide shot and it's a. It's. He's in full like karate gear and the red scarf and the sunglasses. Anyway, three, three and two in the count on the King and oh, he got a hold of that one and it goes deep into a home run and he geek rounds the bases and he's bumping his fists and then they even have the post game interview. Yeah, yeah. I was just trying to get the bat on it and get a good hit. I was all just trying to get a good shot. Freaking hilarious and just so incredibly real looking. I know who comes up with these ideas. They're going to run out of them eventually. Right? Of ideas.

[C]

Well, and for free. In roughly 25 seconds. Last night I reached out to Jack to remind me of the name of an app. And I took a picture of my wife and I in Britain. We were in a punt, which is like a gondola taking a little ride in Cambridge. And I just typed in again. This took what, 30, 45 seconds. An animation of the photograph of us in the boat leaping into the water for free.

[A]

Right.

[C]

In seconds.

[A]

You kind of fooled me with that second pitch, but I'll tell you, I just want to get a stick on it and see if I could get it out of here.

[C]

You got serious stuff. I had to hang on full count. You got to protect the plate, Jack.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

We got more craziness from Mum Donnie, who's going to be the first communist mayor of a major city in America.

[C]

Major editorial. Mamdani will make New York unsafe for New York's Jews.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Remember that front page stuff?

[A]

Remember that story we had last week questioning whether Jews could continue to live in Great Britain?

[C]

Right.

[A]

They're wondering and maybe not.

[C]

Mum is an Islamist as well as a communist. It's the. It's the Red Green alliance which we've talked about before in one person.

[A]

That's probably a bigger threat, right? Isn't it Islamism? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Because you can boot communists out of power unless they like get actual power. But it's very difficult to dislodge Islamists because they'll kill you for trying.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know if he has the power to bring many of his communist dreams true just because he's the mayor, but he could do a lot of things around allowing crazy versions of Islam to run wild in New York.

[C]

Yeah. Yep. Agree.

[A]

What the heck?

[C]

We have tolerated ourselves into a terrible situation. Toxic tolerance. Gad Saad has written a book about that recently, the Great professor, about how excessive tolerance will doom a society.

[A]

It's so obvious. I don't understand why everybody doesn't get it. If you are tolerant of a group that's intolerant, they will take over. It's not complicated. Correct. Anyway, we got a lot of stuff on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Armstrong and Getty.

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But he would be, I would say he would be the leader of the party. He's not Schumer. Schumer's shot. He's shot this poor guy. I feel sorry for him. I don't know him for a long time, but he's, he's. I think he's mentally gone. He's been beat up by young radical lunatics. And I think Chuck Schumer is. He's guns up. I really do. I think he's probably not going to run. It shows that he's losing in every poll now. This is hard. You know, he wants to meet with me. Sort of hard to be with a guy after I make a statement like that. But I'm just giving the facts. I think Chuck is probably kind of.

[A]

Hard to meet with a guy after I make a statement like that. But I'm just giving you the facts. He's gone.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Hey, I'm looking up at the tv. Edie Falco and Jeremy Renner have a new show coming out of some sort. But I didn't know he was recovered enough from when his snowblower ran over him. That he was like sitting on the couch promoting new shows and stuff like that. Okay, glad he.

[C]

When was that? Was that a couple of years ago?

[A]

A few years ago. But he was like, really?

[C]

Really?

[A]

He nearly died. I didn't know he was fine. Okay. Looks to be fun. One other thing I want to mention before we get back into the bulk of this segment. Interesting AI story that just came out. Breaking news that Zuckerberg is going to lay off about 600 AI workers. But the why is dang interesting and guessing.

[C]

He replaced them with AI.

[A]

That's kind of funny. I'm more scared about AI having read this article than I was before and I was already scared. So this Mamdani character, a lot of people talk about him being a communist and what that would mean for New York and as like kind of the face of the Democratic Party. That's what Trump was talking about there. That Schumer's not the face of the Democratic Party. It's Mandani. He's gonzo. Other people are not just worried about his communist views. It's this.

[C]

I believe Zoran Mamdani poses a danger to the security of the New York Jewish community. A vote for Sliwa, whatever his merits, is a vote for Mamdani. There is a path to victory, but it means that every eligible voter must vote.

[A]

Popular New York rabbi there who almost certainly always votes Democrat. So it's not like he's a Republican, most likely. And he's scared for the Jewish community if Mandani wins. Yeah.

[C]

The Wall Street Journal just published an editorial by Alicia Weissel, who's the former chief information officer for Goldman sa. He's a founding partner in a big tech company. He's also the chairman of the Elif Eisel Foundation. But big lead editorial in the paper today, Mumdani mayoral mayorality. Mayor. Mayor Mamdani being mayor. Mayor threatens New York's Jews is the title. By propagating lies about occupation, apartheid and genocide, he helps promote anti Semitism. And he talks. It's actually quite sad. Most of this column is about conflicts he's. Or conversations I should say he's had with a good old friend of his who has taken in nothing but leftist coverage of the conflict in Gaza. And this guy is completely convinced of occupation, of apartheid, genocide, that that October 7th was justified and the rest of it because he's been, you know, just lapping up this incredibly, bizarrely unfair, one sided coverage.

[A]

That's interesting that that would happen in New York. The biggest collection of Jewish people on earth outside of Israel.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And his point is, and I hate to summarize it because it's quite eloquent, but his point is that sort of pitching of that version of history inevitably causes people to feel anger and hatred toward Jews. And all he's asking for is a fair hearing. Mr. Mamdani blamed Hamas butchery on the occupation the day after October 7, while Israel was reeling. He omitted in his the various quotes that Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 and that Hamas built rockets, rockets and tunnels with billions of dollars in aid. They took the aid. They built rockets and tunnels. And then he goes into some of the history of Israel that his friend was completely ignorant of. And, and you know, I can get to his point. Mr. Mamdani's lies endangered Jews everywhere. Incendiary, false, and deadly. They spread hatred. More than half of New York's hate crimes last year were anti Semitic. One attacker shouting free Palestine, stabbed a Jew. Another tried to run Jews over with a car. I was assaulted, he writes, last week by anti Israel marchers at the kind of rally Mr. Mandani attended, then encouraged and then endorsed only tacitly as he came under pressure. The signs read, glory to the martyrs, Violence is resistance, and kill the Jews. At the demonstration Mamdani attended. It's interesting that those editorials and statements are coming out at the same time. And I mentioned this a little earlier, both Politico and the New York Times have big, like, lead pieces today saying to the left, we've got to abandon our left flank. They're too crazy. They're killing our party. They're killing our electoral chances. And it's funny, the New York Times has to point out that all the mistakes that Republicans have made, frittering away winnable races in a variety of states by nominating nut job candidates. Oh, and they're right, by the way. They're right in the New York Times. It's funny, they that's the spoonful of sugar that helps the medicine go down because then they turn to saying to their lefty readers, or killing ourselves with these nut jobs. Anyway, I thought that was interesting in Politico with similar piece. Evidently the word's gotten around. It's okay to say it out loud now. I think that's really good. There's another step that needs to be taken, though, when you're talking about Islamists, because so many people have swallowed the lie that to criticize fundamentalist Islam or Islamism, which is the spreading of Islam as a political and economic system, to criticize that is somehow bigotry. That you're quote unquote criticizing a religion. And by the way, in America you can criticize a religion all you want. We get to. It's in the First Amendment. So go ahead. What I'm really, really hoping that there's been some sort of dam break. Oh, another great example, the Feminization of America article that's getting so much attention that we talked about yesterday and a little bit today. I'm feeling like there's an increased permission structure for people to say, you know, the woke crap. I never bought it. I was just afraid to say so. Could this be the great preference cascade that we've talked about before? I don't know.

[A]

We'll live to see it.

[C]

Yeah. I hate to be too optimistic because grim determination is kind of our mindset around here, but there are signs.

[A]

So why did Zuckerberg fire 600 AI people at Facebook? It's pretty danged interesting to get to that. Coming up. I did want to mention, so I brought this up the other day, my son, one of his favorite musicians currently is this guy named Lul Yachty and Lil Yachty was playing locally over the weekend and a big giant fight broke out and they had to shut down the concert. And it's really popular in this kind of music, whatever you call that kind of music, to have these open mosh pit areas in front of the stage and they get really violent. Lots of people get hurt and nearly crushed to death and all these different things. And that's one of the appeals to like my son and his kids who are as like gentrified, you know, suburban, middle upper class kids as you can possibly get.

[C]

Why do you think that is?

[A]

Danger adjacent.

[C]

Somebody.

[A]

The reason I brought this up again was somebody texted this. It's like the running of the bulls in Pamplona. You want to be there and kind of be danger adjacent. You don't want to be stabbed by a bull yourself, but you want to be able to say you did it and kind of, you know, lived an edgy. I guess it's like young men going off to war back when that was more of a thing.

[C]

And well, in the great feminization of American society, boys are taught over and over again, like vigorous activity even is forbidden on the playground because somebody might get hurt. Never mind like violent games and full contact sports. And so they, they're attracted to it.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's very much the same mindset of the. Going to the running of the bulls.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If I go to, if I go one of these concerts with him. I'm sitting far away, watching from above and hoping he's not very close.

[C]

There ought to be a designated dad section.

[A]

Exactly. I'll watch it on a monitor somewhere. Zuckerberg's really big on trying to create not just artificial intelligence, but artificial super intellig, which I've been reading about that will absolutely ruin mankind. And that's what he's spending his money on now, among other things on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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According to this New York Times report and these internal documents, Amazon's investments in AI are going to allow it to hire 600,000 fewer humans by 2023. 202033 I should say. Despite the fact that they plan to double the amount of products they are selling. 75% of work in those warehouses automated. That is the eventual plan. And according to the New York Times, Amazon is actually developing comm strategies for how to handle the backlash in these communities where jobs might be lost.

[A]

600,000 jobs will be eliminated at Amazon by AI in the next seven and a half years. Wow. Wow is right. That is really something.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Different AI story. The headline just breaking now that Mark Zuckerberg is planning to lay off. He sent out letters today they're going to lay off 600 AI employees. But it's a little misleading. I mean if, if you your knee jerk reaction is that AI isn't panning out for him, for him something or he's not as engaged in it. No, he's replacing a bunch of lower tier AI employees that they had hired a bunch of in a mad rush to try to catch up to Chat GPT and Elon and others and then he. Since. And we talked about this at the time. He went on a spending spree this past summer. In June, he invested $14.3 billion in something called Scale AI. And he went and he plucked some of the best AI minds in the world from other companies. He recruited top researchers from OpenAI. That's Altman's thing. Google, Microsoft, and as we talked about at the time, pay packages that for some of these dudes, and they're almost all dudes, number in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Makes Shohei Ohtani seem like nothing. I mean, serious crazy money. Come work for me. Leave OpenAI. I'll pay you $200 million. Great.

[C]

Googly moogly.

[A]

That is how dedicated he is to try and be. That is funny, Katie. I don't blame you for laughing. Googly moogly is a funny expression. Zuckerberg is doubling down, and most of them are in. So he's got four different segments of AI he's working on. I won't bog down in that. But one of the segments is super intelligence, which doesn't get enough talk. I was just listening to a podcast about it the other day. People use the blanket term AI, and then there's the AGI, which is artificial general intelligence, when it can be as smart as a human being. Basically, super intelligence is the idea of AI being just vastly smarter than human beings have ever been and just a completely different level of being able to learn fast and do things. And when that happens, if it happens soon, I seriously can't even imagine how mankind survives it. There's. Some people think that it can't happen. I'm kind of hoping it can't.

[C]

Yeah, well, Zuckerberg is Satan. I revealed that on the show a number of years ago.

[A]

You know, you do say that a lot, but I don't think he. I think he. The impulse to want to be first in and get to this before Elon or somebody else does would override his. I wonder what this will do to the economy or society or. Yeah, that sort of thing.

[C]

Sure, yeah.

[A]

You know, and he might be right. Either I do it or somebody else does it, and I'd rather it meet be me, which is, you know, might just be true.

[C]

Well, either way, we're doomed. Planet of the Apes or beavers or ants or something is on the way. I mean, has there accepted.

[A]

Has there anybody ever been anything even close to this, adjusted for inflation, where something came along where companies were paying hundreds of millions of dollars per employee to have the best talent? I don't Think so. I mean, that's stunning. Yeah.

[C]

And is it a bubble? Nobody's sure about that either.

[A]

Nobody's sure about that. And it could be. You got a lot of the smartest people in the world who clearly think it's not. I hope they're all right.

[C]

Although part of being in a bubble is you must swear up and down it's not a bubble. Right. So who knows? Who knows? I guess we'll all find out together.

[A]

Or.

[C]

Or if the Lord sees fit to send a semi truck my way today as I cross the street, just let me know how it goes.

[A]

Close friends of the Armstrong and Getty show had him on a couple of weeks ago. Craig Gotwells and Tim Sandifer are both big believers that, like every other technological advance, this will create more different jobs in its wake. So you don't have to worry about all the jobs lost. Maybe. I don't believe it. I don't see what AI is going to create in terms of jobs to the tune of like the 600,000 people Amazon's going to lay off in the next half dozen years or so.

[C]

Right, right. Yeah. I've got to admit, I think this is the one exception to the great rule. But I'm intrigued by the question. I don't know that I'm right. Nobody. Nobody knows if they're right about any of it. No. Which is the fun part, isn't it?

[A]

I know that I use AI regularly and I'm just absolutely amazed by it. I talked about I was buying a computer for my son and I used Grok and Chat GPT and said, this is what my son wants to do. Which computer should I get? And then it gave me a couple of choices and said, is he going to do this or that? And I said, no, he doesn't do that, but he does this. And then they just kept narrowing it down in a way that it would taken me all day long to do on my own or even with Google. And I did the same thing looking for a coffee maker. I mean, the amount of information it gave me and boiling it all down was amazing. Then he got the weirdness of Grok in my car, which yesterday.

[C]

What did I ask?

[A]

Grok in the car yesterday? Oh, my. Kind of gotten an argument with Grok, which my son thought was hilarious because it's a woman. Oh, we were listening to Beatles song and then Henry said, is Yoko Ono still alive? And I said, I don't know. Hey, Grok, is Yoko Ono still alive? And Grok said, oh, you. You know it. She's still alive and she's still cranking out art better than ever. And I said, yeah, I've never really been a fan of Yoko Onna. And Grox said, well, she's been on the. Of the avant garde of writing and painting and music. So many people do respect her work. I thought it was kind of interesting that Grok automatically took the hippie view of Yoko Ono. And I said, well, we will have to agree to disagree. And she said, that's fine. I'll talk to you later. But Henry said, I should have called her a B.

[C]

You stupid bee.

[A]

I don't know why I don't do that. It's weird. I'm. I'm so convinced. Like, look at you. You're appalled by this. It's a freaking computer voice. There's no human being involved. Nonetheless, why wouldn't I say you stupid bee?

[C]

It's. It's evil. Don't have evil pass your lips. What?

[A]

It's a computer. It's trying to argue me into liking Yoko Oto, why don't you drop an.

[C]

N bomb on it?

[A]

Wow, I wonder what would happen if he did that.

[C]

I mean, probably report you to something.

[A]

Probably would.

[C]

I just said, no, no, no. I need to test this adjacent.

[A]

I need to test this more and push back more. You're. You're just stupid Grock.

[C]

You're stupid.

[A]

Yokono sucks or isn't she's anything. She was married to John Lennon. And see what she said to that.

[C]

If this segment of the podcast is not labeled Jack argues with Grok about Yoko Ono, I am resigning my post.

[A]

We will have to agree to disagree.

[C]

If you had that on your bingo card, congratulations. Well, you know what? I. I left out one of my big articles about how the Democratic party realizes gone crazy. Maybe we can hit that next hour.

[A]

We did 20 hours of this.

[C]

It's too much. I'm being held against my will.

[A]

Song and dance every week. If you miss a segment or an hour and you want to hear it, you can get in podcast form. You just look for Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should subscribe.

[C]

Oh, you absolutely should. And you should listen to the great feminization discussion in yesterday's podcast hour, too. Changed a lot of minds.

[A]

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