Jack Armstrong (2:39)

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio

Katie Greener (2:42)

studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

Joe Getty (2:45)

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Jack Armstrong (2:47)

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. We have a President of the United States that when he sends his war fighters out to fight, he unties their

Katie Greener (3:06)

hands to actually go out and close

Jack Armstrong (3:08)

with and destroy the enemy as viciously as possible from moment one. And that's why we see ourselves as part of this negotiation as well. We negotiate with bombs. You have a choice.

Katie Greener (3:19)

As we loiter over the top of

Jack Armstrong (3:20)

Tehran, as the President talked about, about your future, the President has made it

Katie Greener (3:24)

clear that you will not have a nuclear weapon.

Jack Armstrong (3:26)

The War Department agrees our job is to ensure that. And so we're keeping our hand on that throttle as long as, as hard as is necessary to ensure the interest of the United States of America are

Katie Greener (3:37)

achieved on that battlefield. That's Secretary of War Pete Hegseth talking about the military version of diplomacy.

Jack Armstrong (3:45)

And that was very militaristic.

Katie Greener (3:49)

You get that out of the Secretary of War. Now to the talking part of diplomacy. We sent them a 15 point plan for negotiation which is not exactly unconditional surrender, and they rejected it wholeheartedly. According to all reports. We, people like us will never negotiate with people like you. And then there's some other reports out today from other people saying no, that's a, all of it's a non starter. We are not negotiating.

Jack Armstrong (4:15)

Meanwhile, the Gulf Arab states are growing alarmed by Trump's eagerness to do a deal with the leaders of Saudi Arabia and UAE lobbying Trump to stick with the war until Iran is sufficiently weakened that it won't pose a threat anymore. I think I'm moving pieces.

Katie Greener (4:31)

I think I'm on their side.

Jack Armstrong (4:36)

Well, yeah, yeah. Again to the theme, how do you negotiate with a death cult? And there's absolutely part of Orion's leadership that is a death cult. Is the new guy maybe part of that death cult? Kind of hard to say. Mohammed Bagar Galipoff is the guy who Jack mentioned earlier. He was the head guy in Iran's parliament, the parliament speaker. And the parliament is more or less a rubber stamp of the mullahs and, or the Revolutionary Guard. And we were wondering, you know, does this guy have any heft in the system?

Katie Greener (5:11)

So he's like the Mike Johnson Of Iran?

Jack Armstrong (5:13)

Not exactly. He's emerging as a somewhat unlikely figure to be the point guy and perhaps the leader. But all the likely figures are with Allah now. So Goluboff is a former Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Air Force commander. So he's got real ties to the irgc, their air force.

Katie Greener (5:37)

What is that now, you mean?

Jack Armstrong (5:40)

Well, well, it didn't perform super great, so it was never great shakes anyway. He was also the mayor of Tehran for a while. He was known as being a modern pretty responsive to the populist politician. Really helped with the infrastructure of that famously. Excuse me, insanely traffic clogged city.

Katie Greener (6:05)

Business friendly.

Jack Armstrong (6:06)

More business friendly than other parts of the regime. He actually traveled to Davos a number of years ago to portray himself as hey, I'm not a mullah, I'm a business guy. Let's talk about investing here. He's among a small group of regime figures who fit the profile of someone the US can work.

Katie Greener (6:25)

He.

Jack Armstrong (6:25)

He's big on the bombastic Great Satan rhetoric, but Iran watchers say in the past he's demonstrated some pragmatism. He's got good regime bona fides. He's known as a hardliner and he could. So he could be the only Nixon could go to China type. We don't know. So keep an eye on this guy, Mohammed Bagar Galimoff, or he might be atomized tomorrow by the Israelis.

Katie Greener (6:54)

Right, yeah.

Jack Armstrong (6:55)

Who knows?

Katie Greener (6:55)

That's a point I was going to make that even if we decide to call off the dogs, Israel very well might not.

Jack Armstrong (7:05)

Let me hit you with some of this guy's Twitter postings of late. And I quote, our people demand the complete and humiliating punishment of the aggressors. No negotiations with America have taken place. Fake news is intended to manipulate financial and oil markets and escape the quagmire in which America and Israel are trapped. He's called on Iran's neighbors to expel U.S. forces, warn the countries buying U.S. debt could be treated as adversaries buying bonds. He's openly mocked Washington and I quote. So what do you think? Tele General hegseth. He wrote 3-14- Tele General like he's just a general on TV. That's pretty good shot. Yeah, it's pretty sophisticated shot. So he's a good troll. So what do you think? Tele General Hegseth? They are sending poor boys to fix what the generals broke, go die for Israel.

Katie Greener (7:58)

Which some of MAGA believes is the case. So the whole taco thing. Trump puts out a 48 hour threat, then comes out on Monday morning and says threat off for five days. Looks like we got a negotiation going on. A lot of the mainstream media goes with their taco. Trump always chickens out rhetoric. Neil Ferguson, historian, who we like here on the Armstrong and get a show and he's had on a number of times, wrote this yesterday. I want nothing to do with the juvenile journalistic debate about whether by postponing on Monday his threatened attacks on Iranian power plants. Trump chickened out. The way he rolled back the tariffs in April last year. The way he always chickens out. Please. He doesn't always chicken out. He carries out roughly half of the threats he makes, which is a pretty effective strategy in game theory, so long as your adversaries are risk averse, which most of them are. 50% of the time he follows through on these threats and blows the crap out of something or keeps the tariffs or whatever. And about half time he backs off, which is the point is to get your goal reached. The point is not to follow through on your threat. The point is to get your goal reached. And sometimes he thinks I'm going to reach my goal easier. But backing off this threat and then pivoting.

Jack Armstrong (9:16)

Yeah, it's not like parenting. And it occurred to me the other day, I'm so glad we brought this up, is it's just he behaves just like a top poker player would. You want to avoid consistency in poker because really good players observe what everybody does and realize, okay, that guy never bets unless he has a really good hand. He is the kind of player who will never bluff. And once they nail you like that, then, then they can, well, they can beat you because they know what you're going to do. Roughly. Trump is a guy who bluffs wildly and has to lay down his cards. And then the next time he comes at you hard, he's got the nuts, as they say in poker. He's got a really, really good hand and you realize, oh, my God, this guy's all over the map. I don't know what he's going to do. I better be cautious.

Katie Greener (10:01)

If he got the nuts, that means you've got the good cards.

Jack Armstrong (10:05)

Yeah, yeah, you got the hand that'll win. And that kind of the origin of the phrase so don't ask.

Katie Greener (10:11)

And it kind of like going forward on fourth down. Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Depends on the situation.

Jack Armstrong (10:19)

Yeah, yeah. Or, or, you know, everybody expects a pass, so you run a running place. Sure. Predictability is not good in this sort of, well, game theory, as Neil put it.

Katie Greener (10:31)

Right.

Jack Armstrong (10:31)

Oh, you Want to know his other headline for the Free Press? Here's a humdinger. Brace yourself. A recession is coming. Right. The war in Iran is choking global energy supply. History shows shocks like this rarely end without a recession. But we've, we've mocked the obsession with recession, the term recession, on this show for many, many years. Unless you lose your job, it probably won't affect you.

Katie Greener (10:57)

So Mark Halperin's newsletter today took the form of Trump's inner thoughts. So this would be a journalist with a lot of sources guessing what he thinks Trump is thinking. And he came up with this as the last paragraph of the Trump's inner thoughts. The greatest trick is not convincing people you're strong. It's convincing them you're not predictable. But I am, in fact predictable about this. I'm moving the ground forces into the region right now. Then BB and I are going to make the war, air war to date, look like a tea party. Tehran is about to be a parking lot sometime before May 1st. Regime change is coming, and I'm going to be the greatest war hero in American history. That's Halperin's guess as to what Trump's inner thoughts are currently.

Jack Armstrong (11:43)

I'm not sure he's right, but he's definitely not definitely wrong.

Katie Greener (11:47)

Right.

Jack Armstrong (11:49)

Yeah.

Katie Greener (11:50)

It's not hard to imagine Trump wanting to make a mark for all time and understanding that sometimes you're a bit of a villain in your own time, but you'll be remembered for history as a great man. Great in quotes, because great can encompass a lot of things.

Jack Armstrong (12:05)

Well, and he's been so vilified. I think that's the same road as villain. He doesn't care anymore. Here's one concern I have, though. Even though 80% of the folks in Iran hate the regime, I mean, they despise it. People hate even more their country being occupied by a foreign power. They hate it bad.

Katie Greener (12:25)

Kind of remember that happening a few times.

Jack Armstrong (12:27)

Yeah. And so unless you can accomplish something fairly quickly, that can become a real problem. Yeah. On the other hand, it was pointed out that I wish I had this in fry. I have it around here somewhere. Comparing the timetables of the current conflict with Gulf War one, Gulf War two.

Katie Greener (12:52)

I saw that, too. It took a long, long time. Oh, you know, it's like 120 days or something like that. From shock and awe. I hear the troops rolling into the.

Jack Armstrong (13:04)

Yeah. And this is not some sort of plea to be casual with lives or treasure or anything like that. But during the 91, Operation Desert Storm against Iraq Saddam Hussein. A campaign widely considered a brilliant military success. The US led coalition lost 75 aircraft, 42 of them in combat in this conflict. Four manned aircraft had been destroyed, three to friendly fire and one in an accident. Not a single man plane has been yet lost over Iran. The U.S. air and Land Campaign. That operation lasted a full six weeks. Today it's remembered as a lightning fast war. The current conflict with Iran is less than four weeks old. The 1989-90 invasion of Panama. You remember that old pineapple head? I don't actually, I barely do the particulars of it. I just know it happened.

Katie Greener (13:51)

I was in a particularly rough spot in my life. I wasn't taking in a lot of geopolitical news. That's what I was. Subletting an apartment and using my shoes for a pillow at night, working three jobs. I was not, I was not following. I didn't have a TV for one thing.

Jack Armstrong (14:05)

Yeah, wow. So in the invasion of Panama whose military phase lasted a few days, the US lost 23 soldiers with 325 more wounded. So far in this war, US losses are 13 dead among the more than 230 wounded. Most have swiftly returned to duty. During the Persian Gulf crisis that began with Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 90, the US economy went into recession and the Dow fell by about 13% before the allied air war began. Since conflict with Iran began last June with Operation Midnight Hammer, the Dow is up by 9% as of Tuesday morning. Wow. And honestly, honesty, it's down after this phase and there's, you know, there's, there's more to this. We are living again.

Katie Greener (14:51)

We're tick tock.

Jack Armstrong (14:52)

You can. Oh well, well said. I was going to say you can be completely against this military action, this war or whatever and still you have to concede. We are TikTok people. If something isn't over by dinner time, we grow bored with it, impatient with it. Why hasn't this ended yet? Too long. Did not read.

Katie Greener (15:12)

That is exactly right. And that's something.

Jack Armstrong (15:17)

Yeah, yeah.

Katie Greener (15:19)

Something taken. What was it? Six weeks? 40 some days. That's just an unimaginable amount of time. I mean people were saying why is this taking so long? A week in a weekend trying to go to war with a country and 90 million people that's been preparing for this battle for a half a century.

Jack Armstrong (15:38)

Right. And I really hate the chicken hawk casually spending of human lives that occasionally you see. But we are also undeniably, whether you like this conflict or not, much more loss averse as a country with a giant military than we've ever been in our history.

Katie Greener (15:57)

No doubt, no doubt. Any thoughts on any of that? That's provocative stuff. Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and get

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Katie Greener (18:55)

Tag harbor police on Long island releasing

Jack Armstrong (18:57)

body camera video from the DWI arrest of singer Justin Timberlake. Timberlake submitting to a field sobriety test

Katie Greener (19:02)

that night, refusing a breathalyzer. Three months later, Timberlake pleading guilty to

Jack Armstrong (19:06)

a lesser charge of driving while ability impaired.

Katie Greener (19:09)

Yeah, and then they released the video and every news outlet in the world played it. And I didn't think there was anything interesting to it, but he sued to try to keep that from coming out. Lost. And I understand the whole we need to have transparency, blah, blah, blah, but there's. There's that. That it's a minor crime and then the video.

Joe Getty (19:30)

Or.

Jack Armstrong (19:32)

And by that Jack means. Literally, it's a misdemeanor. You're not minimizing drunk driving.

Katie Greener (19:36)

No, it's a misdemeanor. The penalties, very little. Unless you're famous. Then the penalty includes national embarrassment. I just. I don't get that.

Jack Armstrong (19:47)

Right. Yeah. I would think we could at least have some standard of. I can't. I mean, you can't necessarily have the defendant approve that release. That wouldn't be it.

Katie Greener (19:58)

But there was no public value in us seeing that.

Jack Armstrong (20:01)

Public value? No legitimate reason. Yeah.

Katie Greener (20:04)

None whatsoever.

Jack Armstrong (20:05)

Just because you make a little mistake, or a significant mistake, Drunk driving certainly is. Doesn't necessarily mean the government should be party to you being humiliated. I'm uncomfortable with that. Yeah.

Katie Greener (20:16)

I would. Yeah, it's amazing to me that that happens. Um, do you remember the story of the doctor? Good looking doctor and his good looking wife. They're in Hawaii on a hike and he tries to kill her. That trial is wrapping up. Here's a little bit of that from yesterday.

Jack Armstrong (20:31)

Ariel Koenig taking the stand in her

Katie Greener (20:33)

husband's attempted murder trial.

Jack Armstrong (20:35)

Exactly one year ago, she says her

Katie Greener (20:37)

own husband tried to push her off a cliff.

Jack Armstrong (20:39)

She was on a hike in Oahu with her husband, Hawaii anesthesiologist, Dr. Gerhardt Koenig, when she says his mood suddenly changed.

Joe Getty (20:47)

He's on top of me and he had a syringe in his hand. And he says, hold still.

Jack Armstrong (20:52)

Ariel says she swatted the syringe away.

Katie Greener (20:55)

His Attorneys say Ariel was engaged in

Jack Armstrong (20:58)

an inappropriate relationship with a man she worked with. They say she first attacked Koenig. She attacked him, pushed him, and they ended up in a scuff on the ground. He never tried to throw off the cliff.

Katie Greener (21:08)

Yeah, here's another piece of information, in case you're wondering. Well, I suppose that could have happened. He took out a much bigger life insurance policy on her. Couple weeks before he tried to push her off the cliff.

Jack Armstrong (21:20)

Well, and then when she rebuffed his advance with the syringe, did his defense deal with that? He beat her near to death with a rock.

Katie Greener (21:29)

Well, he would have beat her to death if some hikers hadn't come along and run over and started yelling at him. And. And. And he stopped.

Jack Armstrong (21:37)

He called the authorities.

Katie Greener (21:38)

He was going to beat her to death and throw her off the cliff is what he was going to do. He's a complete nut. Or a monster.

Jack Armstrong (21:44)

Unless your wife is a 6 foot 4 judo master, wouldn't your response be, hey, cut it out. Most people's wives are a lot of things, but able to take them in a fair fight is not on that list.

Katie Greener (22:00)

Right? Yeah, please.

Jack Armstrong (22:01)

You monster. You wife beating murderer.

Katie Greener (22:04)

And it's the first time they've faced each other since then. Can you imagine being in that courtroom and looking at that guy that had tried to kill you, beat you to death with a rock and listen to his lying lawyers? Oh, that'd be tough to take.

Jack Armstrong (22:17)

Justice is going to be done.

Katie Greener (22:18)

I assume so. Nice plan, genius.

Jack Armstrong (22:22)

Oh, I know. Guys. Again, intelligence and wisdom are two totally different questions. He's obviously smart enough to be a doctor and an anesthesiologist, but he's obviously also an idiot.

Katie Greener (22:33)

You thought you're going to take out the life insurance policy. She falls off a cliff and nobody was going to wonder about that.

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approximately $20 billion over the next seven

Katie Greener (25:18)

years to build a base on the moon.

Jack Armstrong (25:21)

Through dozens of missions.

Katie Greener (25:23)

The agency announced it was pausing plans to develop a space station to orbit

Jack Armstrong (25:27)

the moon and would redirect some of those resources to the lunar base. Among the other projects, a brand new

Katie Greener (25:33)

nuclear powered Mars vehicle that NASA hopes to launch by 2028. The Mars mission would put nuclear electric

Jack Armstrong (25:39)

propulsion technology to use in space for the first time.

Katie Greener (25:43)

A moon base. Okay, that'll be exciting.

Jack Armstrong (25:47)

That nuclear powered vehicle. How many miles per neutron? Ah, the future, Jack. It lies before us.

Katie Greener (25:55)

Thank you for that.

Jack Armstrong (25:57)

I wonder how much of this stuff actually gets achieved?

Katie Greener (26:00)

Oh, I assume, number one, I assume

Jack Armstrong (26:02)

it all will like the mars stuff. You think? Yeah, yeah. I just wonder whether humankind, the United States and specifically will retain the will and means to do it.

Katie Greener (26:14)

Well, I think Elon will do it privately if the. Even if the government doesn't.

Jack Armstrong (26:20)

Yeah, yeah.

Katie Greener (26:21)

Could be.

Jack Armstrong (26:22)

Could be. I'm interested. I'm not. I have no position on it. I just wonder. So speaking of technology, here's my hallmark. I have several hallmarks. Accuracy, yelling at the staff. Hallmarks. One of. Shut up. One of those. One of them is I'm one of my jihads is that evidence is not proof that individual pieces of evidence can be misleading or incomplete or, or, you know, you know, you're lacking the counter evidence. And so everybody wants to leap to conclusions all the time. I try very hard not to do that.

Katie Greener (26:59)

Such a time saver.

Jack Armstrong (27:00)

Anyway, this is, this is just beyond proof.

Katie Greener (27:06)

Between stereotypes and leaping to conclusions over little evidence saves me so much, frees me up for all my other hobbies.

Jack Armstrong (27:13)

Well, stereotypes are a timesaver. Anyway, I'm. I'm shopping for golf wear a couple of months ago, number of months ago. And this friend says, oh, you got to try these shorts. Really nice shorts. Love them. I won't bother you with why, but they're super great. Golf waste.

Katie Greener (27:33)

Two leg holes, the whole thing.

Jack Armstrong (27:34)

Oh, yeah, yeah. And a fly. Yes, you've seen them. Anyway, so I really, really like them. And the weather's starting to get warm again, so I think, yeah, I'm going to get a couple more pair of these shorts. And I had jotted a note down to my. To ask our local golf shop, you know, can you get me this color? And Judy sees this note on the kitchen counter and she says, and I'm going to make up the brand or I'll just tell you because otherwise people

Katie Greener (28:01)

will yell at me, you're wearing Lululemon shorts.

Jack Armstrong (28:04)

I don't want to repeat the infamous potato chip incident. So it's, it's Red. Red Vanley. It's all one word. Red Vanley. I don't know if it's word and I don't care a name or I don't care, but so she said, what is this? I said, oh, Red Vanley shorts. Those are the, like the pull on shorts that I like so much. I was gonna get a couple more pair. And she said, oh, okay. An hour later, she's getting hammered on her cell phone. Every site she visits, Red Vanly ads come on, people. And I'm Mr. Don't Leap to conclusions. I'm leaping on that conclusion and I'm beating it with both my little fists. All right, it's just clear what's going on here.

Katie Greener (28:48)

So what do you think? Listened to you and. And then started targeting you with advertising. Your phone, your refrigerator, your toaster, your tv, all the things with listening.

Jack Armstrong (29:00)

Well, see, that's the interesting part. We don't have smart anything except for like the TVs. And we have almost exclusively Apple devices for our hardware, like laptops and iPads and stuff like that. She is occasionally on Facebook. Was the Facebook app open and buried in the fine print? Katie, talk to me. That's it. So if you. If you have apps open on your phone and you've enabled the camera microphone

Katie Greener (29:30)

capability, probably more likely didn't disable the camera microphone.

Jack Armstrong (29:35)

Thank you. Doubt. Okay, well, there's that. But if you leave the app open, it still has the ability to listen in the background.

Katie Greener (29:44)

You're telling me somewhere in the 87 pages of agreements on Facebook it says, by the way, we get to listen through your microphone.

Jack Armstrong (29:53)

It can be any app that in the. You know. Sure, 87 pages. We would never use that technology to target ads, which is our entire monetary stream. No, it's merely so you can utilize Alexa more. More readily. That's why as soon as I'm done

Joe Getty (30:10)

using an app, I close it.

Jack Armstrong (30:12)

Came across. Came across this. That's good practice. Alexa. Stop recording me. A new anti surveillance device is blowing up on social media, promising to stop digital recorders in their tracks. But this guy's trying to figure out if it actually works. 90 second video on X. A young be spectacled woman with a charming German accent speaks to the camera about Specter 1, the first smart device that stops unwanted audio recordings from happening around around you. The young woman happens to be the product's inventor. She found herself unexpectedly in the eye of the latest technology hype hurricane. So this guy goes into whether it actually works or not.

Katie Greener (30:56)

Yeah. Won't this be a never ending race between the I've got a listening device that can't be tracked and the trackers.

Jack Armstrong (31:05)

I don't know. I don't know enough about the technology. I don't know if you can get around this technology or if it even works, but do you remember all the times we talked about this and all the big tech companies said, no, we're not listening to you? Right? Yeah. Oh my God. They just lie and they lie and they lie.

Katie Greener (31:24)

Well, they get caught on a regular basis and then they say, oh, okay, that was a mistake. I remember when Tesla got caught, they were looking at people with their cameras.

Jack Armstrong (31:33)

Boy, this thing runs $1,200. Yikes. Ah.

Katie Greener (31:39)

How often am I worried about somebody recording me? Probably not a lot.

Jack Armstrong (31:43)

Yeah, I mean, I still like those shorts just fine. So if I'm getting ads for them, that's great, but I only have one ass. I can't buy 50 pair of shorts. I don't need them.

Katie Greener (31:52)

Well, anyway, shorts makes more sense than, like, refrigerators, lawnmowers, lots of different things that you buy once every 15 years. God, I've got one of those. I don't remember what it is that just keeps hitting me with the ads. I'll never need to buy that again. Who can I tell that I'll never need to buy that again? So you stop sending me those ads.

Jack Armstrong (32:12)

Go ahead, Katie. Well, no, this is all reminding me also of the Nancy Guthrie case. How she had unsubscribed from her house cameras. And then the more footage just came

Katie Greener (32:21)

out last week, they got.

Jack Armstrong (32:23)

Well, and on your point, Jack, I now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one I have, I'm getting spammed more than I was like, two months ago. And I thought it was, like, at some sort of outer limit. I get phone spammed, oh, half a dozen to ten times a day. And it's always the same thing about, I'm calling to report on the progress of your business loan, or I'm. I'm calling to see if I can help you with your business loan, or blah, blah, blah. And it appears to be randomly generated phone numbers, because I block them and I block them and I block them and I block them, and it doesn't do any good.

Katie Greener (33:01)

We got to get some laws passed on that. I don't know how you square that with the First Amendment.

Jack Armstrong (33:04)

No, we got laws. You can't enforce them.

Katie Greener (33:07)

That's the problem.

Jack Armstrong (33:08)

Yeah, these are offshore, you know, servers.

Katie Greener (33:11)

Drone strike.

Jack Armstrong (33:13)

Wait a minute. Now you're talking. Let me get Pete Hegseth on the line. Secretary Pete, Joe here. I would love that.

Katie Greener (33:22)

Find out where they are and make them glow.

Jack Armstrong (33:24)

Yep, yep. Back to the stone age. That's what I say. One final kind of tech AI note. I thought this was merely kind of fun and interesting. This guy, Nicholas Decker, who writes about tech, did a bunch of research and looked at other research on who uses AI in Congress. He put, like, the entire Congressional record and. Which has, like, everything that happens in front of Congress through AI detectors and he said, well, he's asking, how has AI been adopted by members of Congress? What effect, if any, has it had on the ideological content of legislation? What effect has it had on the rhetoric? Has it made them more productive? And can we attribute adoption to the members or their staff? In brief, it has been widely adopted, but without any impact on actual policy outcomes, as far as they can tell. And I don't know, I actually am looking at who uses it the most more as an expression of, okay, these people and. Or their staffers are kind of hip to technology and the rest of it. Not that it's an indictment or anything, but number one, and they don't have the first name. Owens from Utah. Then Quail are in Texas. Jackson, Illinois, Hernandez. It's funny, the first is the people

Katie Greener (34:45)

that aren't, which shows that they have no interest in what's going on in the world. That's about to be the most important topic on Earth.

Jack Armstrong (34:53)

Yeah, the top 10 is a Republican. Then I think it's six Democrats. Then Republican, Republican, Democrat. Anyway, adoption has been substantial in the past three months of the 119th Congress. Fully 25% of documents in the Congressional Record are AI generated.

Katie Greener (35:12)

No, it'll be all of them soon, probably.

Jack Armstrong (35:15)

Yeah. Speeches especially are being freaked out by AI.

Katie Greener (35:19)

I'm more concerned with the ancient senator or House member who says AI is a bunch of crap, hasn't spent any time looking into it, and has no interest in any of it. Yeah, which is how we're going to get overrun by AI robots.

Jack Armstrong (35:36)

See floor speeches, 7% AI extension of remarks, whatever that is. I don't even know what that is. 30%. A much higher adoption in the House than the Senate, which you might expect because the House is much younger than the Senate. Although the staff ought to be hip to this stuff. Although the grumbling old senator you portrayed so convincingly a moment or two ago might be telling its staff, don't bother. Right. Yeah. Anyway, just mildly interesting.

Katie Greener (36:06)

Why would anybody write a resume in the modern world and not just have AI do it for you or lots of things.

Jack Armstrong (36:15)

Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. If I wasn't in the downward coasting phase of my career, I'd be using the hell out of it.

Katie Greener (36:25)

The one foot in the grave phase of your career.

Jack Armstrong (36:28)

Exactly. And one toe on the other foot.

Katie Greener (36:30)

Oh, wow. You put the other foot in there now just a toe.

Jack Armstrong (36:33)

But I got 1.2 foots in the grave.

Katie Greener (36:37)

That's a moment.

Jack Armstrong (36:37)

Let's be honest. When that's. And that second foot creeps a little closer and you got one. That's right. That is a moment we will finish strong.

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Katie Greener (39:51)

What the hell does that mean?

Jack Armstrong (39:53)

Set serious or a joke or what?

Katie Greener (39:55)

That's a real product apparently.

Jack Armstrong (39:57)

Okay, yeah, the grains that they make beer, they're actually taking the grain and

Katie Greener (40:01)

putting it on lawns. Well, fine, but what's that? What, what what's. I don't understand the combining them into any meaning whatsoever.

Jack Armstrong (40:08)

Well, didn't you hear? After a long day of photosynthesis and being walked on, I crave a beer just like my owner. And I as the owner of that grass think, hey, me and my grass are buddies. I'm gonna buy it, this beer fertilizer. Okay, Come on, who hears that and thinks, yeah, that makes sense.

Katie Greener (40:25)

In other beverage news, be careful if you drink a Sarah's charged lemonade Panera bread. This is one of those ultra caffeinated drinks that has killed a few people. So it says here the total maximum daily intake for adults is 400 milligrams. Of course that's probably the CDC or whatever and I don't know if I should believe them on a freaking thing about anything ever in my life because that would only be four cups of coffee total per day.

Jack Armstrong (40:57)

Please hold my coffee. Yeah, coffee.

Katie Greener (40:59)

Anyway, Sarah's charged lemonade contains 390 milligrams of caffeine. One of them that you eat a Panera bread. So that's the entire 400 milligram daily intake. You're supposed to get lemonade. A couple of people have taken it and. But it's charged. I really work at trying to keep my son's caffeine under control. But it's, it's tough because he out with other friends and they go to other people's houses and stuff like that. But man, the younger generation with their Red Bulls and monsters and whatnot and I, it's. It, there's something different about it. I haven't heard anybody explain it to me because I'm, I'm. Well I'm, I've no, I know my way around some caffeine I take a sip of one of those and I feel like my head's gonna pop off. There's something different about the caffeine in a Monster than in the coffee I drink. I don't know what it is, but I can't drink those things. But young people drink them. The hammer them down.

Jack Armstrong (41:58)

Katie drink fan.

Katie Greener (42:00)

Like they're quenching their thirst.

Jack Armstrong (42:02)

No, I. I used to be, but now it just. My heart rate spikes and it makes me freak out. Yeah, I've tried a couple of them and I thought they tasted disgusting. So I haven't really gotten past. Well, there are about intent.

Katie Greener (42:15)

900 different flavors of Monster, for instance. So it's probably what I had like

Jack Armstrong (42:20)

the rock star juiced and it tasted like fruit punch. And it was. I was drinking like three of those a shift when I worked at Trader Joe's. Wow.

Katie Greener (42:29)

Got you all jacked up, though.

Jack Armstrong (42:30)

Oh, yeah.

Katie Greener (42:32)

Yes. I wonder why you would even make a drink like the. Whatever this was called that has the almost 400 milligrams of caffeine in it. I wonder why you would even make that. Is there an audience that. That wants to take in there? Sarah's charged lemonade wants to take in the full daily dose of caffeine in one drink while you have a sandwich of Panera Bread.

Jack Armstrong (42:58)

Yeah, it's your. Your son, his compatriots, and the next generation a little older than that or their energy drink swigging junkies.

Katie Greener (43:05)

And they built up tolerances to it. Is that how it works?

Jack Armstrong (43:08)

That's part of it, yeah. Wow.

Katie Greener (43:10)

I think I'd end up in the hospital.

Jack Armstrong (43:15)

They ain't got much to give you. They gonna give me what they got.

Katie Greener (43:20)

Screw.

Jack Armstrong (43:21)

The four hour workday is about over.

Katie Greener (43:22)

It's time for final thoughts. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

Jack Armstrong (43:27)

Thoughts. Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, pressing the buttons. Our technical director, Michelangelo Michael. Yeah, I'm getting the following ads on my phone. I'm getting stuff about cars, laxatives, and walk in tubs. So I gotta watch what I'm talking about, you know, with my wife. I'm getting some weird ads. Wow. Wow. Like for elderly walk in tubs. For elderly people. Yeah, I get it. Yep. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, just still on the energy drink stuff. When I quit drinking those, I started getting caffeine withdrawal headaches and those were awful.

Katie Greener (44:02)

Yeah, I have those on the weekend because I'M used to a certain amount of caffeine.

Jack Armstrong (44:07)

Jack, a final thought for us.

Katie Greener (44:08)

Yeah, we gotta quit suing places like so if you drank way too much caffeine, that's a you decision. If you watched YouTube videos for 16 hours a day and it made you depressed, seems like a you decision. We gotta quit suing these companies for this sort of thing.

Jack Armstrong (44:27)

My final thought is tomorrow I want to think about the useless idiot jackasses of Code Pink and others who are flocking to Cuba to stand with the communist regime against the Great Satan. America, you people are seriously stupid. How do you feed yourselves?

Katie Greener (44:42)

Have you heard the one floating around that Cuba has a cure for lung cancer but Western imperial forces won't allow them to spread it around the world?

Jack Armstrong (44:50)

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. Oh my God.

Katie Greener (44:53)

You're an idiot if you believe that. Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

Jack Armstrong (44:58)

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