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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. I'm looking up at the television. They claim that more states are considering a federal four day school week. Are they actually?
Joe Getty
For what reason?
Jack Armstrong
Sounds like the story that could be manufactured. Very easy. Somebody talked about it somewhere. Their reasoning is more free time for the kids, less teacher burnout, cheaper for some reason because you don't have the school open as many days and all the costs to go with that, yada yada yada. I feel like with reading proficiency, math proficiency, where it is now going that direction is not going to be the answer.
Joe Getty
But we go to six days.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no kidding. If we're going to make a change, how about you do more while they're there? Anyway, I don't want to get off on that because I want to get off on this. I don't know exactly what's going on with the whole Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly thing. And in general I feel like, like media discussing other media isn't the best topic because we're in this business and you're not and maybe you don't give a crap. But I used to love Tucker. I didn't watch Megyn Kelly as much, but I always thought she was an honest broker. But what are they, what are things going on with them re the world of Islam right now.
Joe Getty
So yes, I see it less as discussing the media even though we clearly are as discussing ideas and philosophies and who's pushing them and why in general, if it's college kids or Megyn Kelly, I still find it interesting. People pitching radical politics and I think
Jack Armstrong
maybe Megyn Kelly, maybe Candace Owens, but certainly Megyn Kelly looks at Tucker Carlson is like her idol or this is how you do it. She sees how incredibly rich is. She's already ridiculously wealthy. Remember that deal she has was a hundred and twenty million dollars deal she signed with NBC to leave Fox or she's got gobs of money. Why would you ever go out and say crap that is that you don't believe for more money at that point but because you become so cynical, I guess.
Joe Getty
Well, I, you know, at every level of wealth you see somebody who's a little wealthier than you and think that'd
Jack Armstrong
be cool, I suppose. Anyway, Tucker Carlson has become more friendly to Islam as of late. We played portions of his interview with the New York Times that came out over the weekend. We didn't play this. And then I'll explain it if it doesn't make sense to you.
Joe Getty
I think what we're seeing is evil. Like, are you allowed to kill people who've committed no crime?
Jack Armstrong
No.
Joe Getty
Super simple. You're not allowed to do that under no moral standard. Is that allowable all of a sudden? It's allowable. It's allowable in Gaza. And our leaders are like, yeah, no,
Jack Armstrong
it's just totally fine.
Joe Getty
It's not fine, but certainly it's repugnant to the Christian understanding of the world and the human soul. Every person has a soul. That's the Christian view. And not just the Christian view, it's the Islamic view too.
Jack Armstrong
So he's going with the Israel is. Well, let me read. One of my favorite pundits wrote this to me. The most vile part of the segment, which no one is talking about, is where he states that Christians and Muslims believe every human has a soul and then innocent civilians shouldn't be murdered. All while calling Israel's war on Hamas evil. Nothing. He had nothing to say about Hamas being evil or Muslims in any way ever being evil. Listen closely. This is not a criticism of Israel. It's a classic anti Semitic blood libel and a visceral rejection of Judaism that unequivocally debunks Tucker's perpetual claim that he doesn't have an issue with Jews or Judaism, just Israeli policy. Tucker believes Judaism is a supremacist religion that does not believe all humans have souls because he talk about souls all the time or that innocent people should not be murdered. Had nothing to say about Hamas. Murdered people, including their own people on
Joe Getty
regular or even the Quran saying that it's fine to kill unbelievers.
Jack Armstrong
And that was in the interview with the New York Times on his show regularly. He's been soft on on Islam. And then there are some people that suspect he's getting checks from the Qataris or whatever.
Joe Getty
They're spreading billions and billions and billions of dollars around the United States. Change perceptions. I've heard him referred to as Tucker Katarlson.
Jack Armstrong
Now I don't watch Megyn Kelly's show. I keep telling myself I should, partially because I really like Mark Halperin and Rich Lowry. Those are two of my favorite pundits and they go on Megyn Kelly's show every week. And I assume, well, she's got to be a straight shooter. Here's Megyn Kelly from January of this year. This is a little long, but this lays down her solid credentials as somebody who's worried about radical Islam.
Guest or External Clip (e.g., Megyn Kelly or Martha Stewart)
Islam is not consistent with the values of America, of the West. They should stay in countries that don't care about keeping church and state separated. They should stay in countries that don't care about protecting free speech. They should stay in countries that don't care about women's rights. That's where Islam can fester and grow. It's great. I mean, I'm sure if that's like, your thing and you don't care about, like, genital mutilation, you might really enjoy living in an Islamic country. If you don't mind living in a life as a woman where you have to keep every inch of your body except for your eyeballs covered. Yeah. Someplace in the Middle east could be for you. It's not my thing, it's not America's thing, and it's not a thing that we should want or encourage in the West. I think he's understanding there may be some new listeners over here, you know, like, like he's gotten very, very popular lately.
Jack Armstrong
Wait a second. Why did that switch to the other thing? We didn't divide it. When it changes to now looks diviner to me. Huh. I'm confused. I should have clarified this with you. Hanson. Anyway, so she does that whole that's back in January, January earlier this year, where she does that whole, you know, completely accurate, which she has been saying for many, many years that Islam is all kinds of nut job stuff that we all know. And she just repeated there. Then she's asked.
Joe Getty
My only disagreement with her is that it is relentlessly expansionist. So there's no chance they're going to stay in place. That's not what they're called to do. But back to you.
Jack Armstrong
Then she's asked the subject comes up when she's talking to Mark Halperin the other day about Tucker's interview with the New York Times and some of the things that he said about the world of Islam lately. And rather than, you know, continue where she has been on Islam all this, all these years, she goes with this,
Guest or External Clip (e.g., Megyn Kelly or Martha Stewart)
there's no such thing as Islamophobia. You are not only entitled to, quote, fear Islam, I would argue it's your duty as a Christian.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what this is. Did, did you get a different clip than what I sent you? Hanson this is confusing to me. Cause on the, on the cause we have her soft peddling. Okay, we need 14B. Okay, 14B.
Guest or External Clip (e.g., Megyn Kelly or Martha Stewart)
Think he's understanding there may be some new listeners over here. You know, like. Like he's gotten very, very popular lately, I read with Muslim viewers, because he's been standing up for Islam, you know, and I have to tell you, Mark, it's been something I've noticed just since I've gotten sort of more clear eyed on Israel, that a lot of the anti Muslim rhetoric that's put out there originates with people who are very, very pro Israel who kind of need us to demonize them. And I've taken a look recently at my own rhetoric on this to say, like, have I been manipulated? I want to make sure I'm not getting manipulated.
Joe Getty
What? Oh, my God. She's. She's on Cutter's payroll.
Jack Armstrong
What the hell is that?
Joe Getty
Yeah, now that she's got clarity on Israel. Wow. She got bought. That's amazing.
Jack Armstrong
What the hell is that? And Tucker's standing up for Muslims, you know, and he's getting a lot of new viewers, young men and Muslims, because he's standing up for Islam. And you know, I gotta say, I was misled a little bit by, you know, the pro Israeli crowd.
Joe Getty
Okay, I'd like to go point by point, Megan. So were you wrong about free speech in Muslim countries or are you wrong about freedom of religion? Were you wrong about the rights of women? I mean, on the facts, never mind who influenced whom, are you. Were you wrong about the fact that Islam is a political system that's incompatible with the principles of democracy? What specifically changed? Nothing. Nothing. She's been bought or lost her mind. That's horrific.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I don't think there's a chance she lost her mind. Now my question I've had for a while now is how long does Mark Halpern and Rich Lowry. I don't know if any of you know who those people are, particularly Rich Lowry, but they're pundits like Joe and I like because we believe they're straight shooters and honest and they're. But Halpern kind of had a look on his face. He was a little wide eyed as she was saying that. Like, I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to this. I mean, it's not like she was saying that in the 90s and now she says what she just said. This is a couple of months ago. Yeah, Genital mutilation. No rights for women. Can't do anything but show your eyeballs. Now it's. Tucker's getting lots of new viewers and you know, young men, Muslim men. Cuz he's standing up for Islam. And I've been misled by the pro Israel crowd, by the Fox crowd.
Joe Getty
Whoa. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
How much money, I'm just thinking for myself as a guy who's in broadcasting, how much money would I have to think I'm gonna make for me to want to change my tune that much on something is evil as radical Islam? I don't think I could do it. But I've never had anybody offer me $20 million.
Joe Getty
But no, I wouldn't do it. Not for a second.
Jack Armstrong
I don't think I could.
Joe Getty
Everybody has their price, though. I mean, that's an ancient saying. And you know, a regime like Qatar can hit virtually anybody's price if you have a price, which everybody has allegedly. So you know what strikes me, I kept thinking about, let me get this off my chest is we made a conscious decision a very long time ago to not be insiders of any sort, not hobnob with the powerful, not go to the cocktail parties, not get invited to the blankety blank.
Jack Armstrong
It's corrupting.
Joe Getty
I am so brutally disappointed by Halpern and Rich Lowry not saying, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Because they're both plenty bright enough.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah.
Joe Getty
To argue the point in the moment. Which just goes to show you, they don't want to upset the apple cart because they share listeners and viewers and they kind of promote each other's products and God, it's so corrupt. I'm seconded by that. Absolutely. Second.
Jack Armstrong
And so it's not really the Islam in that bad part that is jarring. I think it's the turn on Israel. It's the anti Semitic. It's the Jews. The Jews, ah, they're spreading these lies about Islam. I was misled by the Jews and the people who love the Jews. That's what she's saying.
Joe Getty
Every show we kick off at the very beginning with me coming up with a couple of fanciful potential titles for today's show. And, and I've been resisting the temptation to go with 1936 is now because it's Saddam serious. But the, the stories about anti Semitism in the US end, in Europe and how completely crystal knocked it is, including like statements by Keir Starmer as a Jewish business is smashed up and looted and the rest of it and you know, your, your Star of David spray painted or not or swastikas. And he said it was a minor act of vandalism. It's not a major happening. Everybody's trying to downplay it. And poo poo it. I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, it's 1936 is now. This is what it felt like in Nazi Germany. And another great piece I think it was the free press was talking about how the anti Semite crowd has so taken over the Democratic Party because the whole Red Green alliance thing where the Marxists joined with the Islamists because they have the same goals and how you dare not in the center left to left of the Democratic Party criticize Islamism at this point. And it reminds me so much of because I spent a lifetime studying Germany and the World War II period and blah blah. There is a party that's out of
Jack Armstrong
power, but it's got a lot of
Joe Getty
energy with the young and it is really kind of ascendant and we don't think they can win. But one of their big things is we hate the Jews. Does that sound familiar to you at all?
Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
What the hell?
Jack Armstrong
But the Democratic Party hated that.
Joe Getty
That's trolling, isn't it? It's gotta be. Well, we're desperately late.
Jack Armstrong
He's, he's, you know, he says you can't trust Trump and the Republicans to stand up against the Jews like you can the Democrats. Oh boy. So I'm sure the Democratic Party thought. Thanks a lot.
Joe Getty
The new home of American Nazis, the Democratic Party.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly. It is true. It is true, he'd be welcome on a campus. All right, more coming up. Stay here.
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Joe Getty
Cinco de Mayo is extra special because it happens to fall on Taco Tuesday. And really and there is some festive
Jack Armstrong
deals to be had.
Joe Getty
Taco Bell's offering free crunchwrap Supremes and Seven Eleven has a bogo on burritos. And I'm guessing if you eat more than one 711 burrito you but going to the hospital. Oh my God.
Jack Armstrong
I didn't realize Cinco de Mayo had fallen on Taco Tuesday. Oh my God. All coming together.
Joe Getty
It causes a high tide, right? Or something. The plants have planets have aligned.
Jack Armstrong
Michael, when you how long you been with us? Michael? See, since 2026 years. Yeah. So were we already gracious? Were we already done with our Cinco de Mayo hijinks by the time you joined us?
Joe Getty
No.
Jack Armstrong
You do what?
Joe Getty
Cinco de Mayo do you know we have people eat a fifth of mayonnaise, right?
Jack Armstrong
Yes. We used to have a contest on Cinco de Mayo who could eat a big jar of mayonnaise the fastest. We did that many years in a row. It was always entertaining and often included vomiting.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah. As you might guess, there's hardly anything
Jack Armstrong
I can think of I'd rather eat less a large quantity of alone than mayonnaise, which is part of the point of the thing.
Joe Getty
Stupid human tricks. Yes.
Jack Armstrong
We gave away prizes, though I remember so many.
Joe Getty
Why would you bring that up at this? Why don't you mention the time you beat a girlfriend, which you would never do, of course. Of course. But it's a sin of the past that's best left in the past.
Jack Armstrong
It's a sin that we used to have eating contests.
Joe Getty
Idiotic. Yes.
Jack Armstrong
How about when we weighed a woman's boobs?
Joe Getty
That was science.
Jack Armstrong
Why did we do that well, we
Joe Getty
were talking about larger breasted women and back problems and one of us or both of us asked what is like the typical weight of a breast? How much weight are we talking about? And nobody had any idea.
Jack Armstrong
And some large chested woman came in and we had a scale for some
Joe Getty
reason to weigh her boob.
Jack Armstrong
She tried to hold herself in such a way that only her boob was on the scale.
Joe Getty
Kind of neutralize the. Yes.
Jack Armstrong
That was science.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Well, it's fascinating.
Jack Armstrong
That was a different time,
Joe Getty
a simpler time.
Jack Armstrong
1957. Everything was in black and white.
Joe Getty
You know, it really was a simpler time. It was pre social media, pre smartphone explosion. Yes, people would like their neighbor and not particularly care what their politics were.
Jack Armstrong
Pre ever thinking about whether or not you dated somebody, was a Republican or a Democrat or who they voted for president. It would never cross your mind.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, you've got unbelievable chemistry. You're sexually attracted to each other, but they voted the wrong way in the midterms.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you wouldn't get to the sexual chemistry because you'd find that out first because it's like the most important thing on your list.
Joe Getty
Right. Which is so crazy and stupid.
Jack Armstrong
But I don't think it's going away anytime soon. Anyway, we got a lot more on the way. If you missed a segment at the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
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Jack Armstrong
This is just rapidly changing and developing hour by hour here. President Trump did weigh in. I'll get to that in a second. But he did seem to confirm that there is at least a deal on the table and that was first reported out by Axios. What they had in their details were a 14 point plan that would in effect end the war, reopen the strait. It would also unfreeze Iran funds and also would effectively have a moratorium on Iran enriching uranium. It's possible we're close to an end of the war and we're going to get a lot of the things that we wanted. It's possible. There are some Iranians that have told news outlets that Axios story doesn't hold but you don't know if they have the power or not. Who's got the power? I assume Trump and his people think they're dealing with the people that have the decision making power.
Joe Getty
Sure.
Jack Armstrong
And not whatever voices told Iranian news outlets. No, no, no, no, we're not agreeing to this.
Joe Getty
So practically every Phrase from that learned gentleman needed a disclaimer or two. But, you know, that's this, the situation we find ourselves in.
Jack Armstrong
I feel like the Iran IRGC announcing earlier today that they would not fire on chips was a pretty big deal. That seems like it. A nod to me that they're considering this proposal.
Joe Getty
How's this for commentary? Something's happening.
Jack Armstrong
Something is happening. Trump said this yesterday, which was interesting. Other presidents should have done this. 47 years they've been toying with these stupid people. That's not the way we play now. We do it the old fashioned way. And they should wave. They're very proud. Maybe you won't see a white flag, but essentially that's already what they are. They need. They should wave the white. The flag. The white flag of surrender. So the latest truth social post, which is the way we currently in this country make, you know, major foreign policy announcements, is that he says, and there's a lot of commas here, assuming Iran agrees to give what has been agreed to, comma, which is comma, perhaps comma, a big assumption, comma, the already legendary epic fury will be at an end. And the highly effective block. Yes.
Joe Getty
Is the comma, the new explanation. Mark, we'll take your calls.
Jack Armstrong
And he said the blockade will, will affect highly, blah, blah, blah. The straight will be open to all in all caps. Uh, if they don't agree, the bombing starts. And it will be, sadly, at a much higher level in intensity than it was before. So yet another threat of bombing the crap out of him if this doesn't hold, which I think he means this time. One reason I think that is this just came across from open source. The Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier, that's a French aircraft carrier, has transited southbound through the Suez Canal to deploy to the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden in preparation for a Strait of Hormuz mission per the French Defense Ministry. So the French are sending an aircraft carrier to the Strait of Hormuz, which is a good sign all the way around, as far as I'm concerned.
Joe Getty
Number one, who knew they had one? Number two, given the weakness of European defense and budgets and everything, I wouldn't think they would do that unless they thought it was for a productive purpose.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and they need the straight open. Europe needs the straight open. True, because they need the oil. And Trump might have said, yeah, the war's gonna start back up, need your help. You need to get on board. So it'd be us, France, Israel and the UAE at least pounding the crap out of Iran and opening the Straight back up if this all starts up again.
Joe Getty
Yeah, boy, there's so many ifs. But it's certainly possible that Trump finally got some buy in from the Euros and the Chinese saying, all right, look, we'll be reasonable. Here's how. What we have to have from Iran and one of those things is the strait being opened and we need your help making sure it's open. If so, we will call off the dogs and let the world economy get back to doing what it does. It's, it's, it's possible.
Jack Armstrong
I wish I could figure out how on News apps to get back to the article I was reading before it takes me away from the article I was reading. It's very annoying. God dang it. Why do you think they do that? Lots of, lots of apps and sites do. It is so they get more clicks by definition. You have to click more times on their site.
Joe Getty
It's, it's possible. I don't know. I'd be guessing.
Jack Armstrong
Well, it's not to make it easier to use. It's got to be some metric like that. It's not to make your site easier to use or you wouldn't take me away from the thing I'm reading.
Joe Getty
So.
Jack Armstrong
But they all do it. I don't know if I got anything for you here. The story I've got is gone and into the ether. Crap.
Joe Getty
That's the way life is recently visited.
Jack Armstrong
See if I got that. There you go. See if I can come with it. No, that's not it. Let's see.
Joe Getty
No, that's not it. Rocky Mountains, the Liberty Bell. I'm thinking of what I've recently visited. God, that's a fascinating story about air travel and how it's been affected by the, the gas price hike, the jet fuel, if you like.
Jack Armstrong
Let me give you the headline from this story and then, and then we'll give you that because then I'll dig it up. It's a Washington Post story out today and I don't doubt that this is true and I'm perfectly okay that we were being misled by our military because you need to do that sort of thing. But the story from the Washington Post is that Iran has hit four far more US military assets than have been reported. According to satellite images, the Post showed damage to at least 228 structures, a piece of equipment at US military sites that hadn't previously been reported. I'm fine with that lie. There's no reason to announce to the enemy or the world or anyone really the amount of Damage you've done to us in the midst of a war.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, let's give them all the data they need to improve their systems. No, of course not.
Jack Armstrong
They. But Iran was successful in hitting hangars, barracks, fuel depots, aircraft and key radar, communications and air defense equipment. According to a Washington Post analysis, the threat of air attacks rendered some of our US bases in the region too dangerous to staff at normal levels. Commanders moved most of the personnel from the sites out of range Iranian fire at the start of the war, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, that's the sort of thing you don't need to tell the enemy, but it's probably good to know at some point.
Joe Getty
Yeah, absolutely. It does change everybody's perception, I think, of how effective the counter attacks have been. I mean, not super effective on a strategic level, obviously.
Jack Armstrong
Right. But we were using the best technology on earth to stop them from hurting us at all. And they did some damage, obviously.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Some of the damage is being done economically, you may have noticed at the gas pump, especially in more expensive coastal states. And you've heard about the challenges to the airline industry, including Spirit, going out of business. They would still be fine if fuel prices were what they were like last year. And you know, I'd really love to get into the weeds of the horrible antitrust stuff the Biden administration did, but nobody wants to hear that, so I won't. But I found this interesting. Delta Airlines just announced it is ending food and beverage service on flights under 350 miles. No food or beverage service unless you are seated in first class, which always receives full service. But New York to Boston is under 300 miles, so just you bring a water bottle and shut up.
Jack Armstrong
No beverages.
Joe Getty
Yeah. No food or beverage service.
Jack Armstrong
Food I get. I long ago gave up on the idea of getting much food on a plane, but no beverages. I don't get a cup of coffee even though I'm going to be on there for a couple hours or an hour at least.
Joe Getty
You'll get nothing and like it. Bring a coffee and sit down.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I don't like that.
Joe Getty
So American feeds passengers on flights over 250 miles, as does Southwest. United says 300 miles or longer, but it's all evolved. Feed.
Jack Armstrong
You're using a broad term of feed. You give me a tiny little packet with six mini pretzels in it. Thanks for the food, thanks for the meal.
Joe Getty
Well, mixing a salad jumbo, huh? Always hungry, are you? Huh? You're right, you're right.
Jack Armstrong
A meal. No more meals. This was my meal. You're gonna eliminate the six pretzels.
Joe Getty
Oh, gee, thanks. I'll miss those 18 calories.
Jack Armstrong
But you know, if you're really struggling, sometimes it's a difference maker.
Joe Getty
I think I had heard this before, but I'd forgotten it. Fuel accounts for around 30% of an airline's overall operating costs.
Jack Armstrong
Here's the most amazing stat I've heard about flying recently. We talk a lot about how we live such wealthy lifestyles compared to like when we were kids on average, and how the reason the middle class is disappearing is because it's moved into the upper class. And we often talk about how like nobody flew when we were kids. You drove on vacations. Prices for airline tickets adjusted for inflation compared to average people, average salaries are a third what they were in the 70s. A third?
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
No wonder my parents and nobody I knew, I didn't know anybody that flew anywhere. It's not like my friends were flying places either. Nobody flew anywhere when I was a kid. But you know, if people were making less than a third, I mean, there were three times more expensive. Yeah, no, you're not going to fly. You're going to drive or not go.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, just the, you know, there are plenty of folks in institutions that don't want you to know that sort of thing, that sort of perspective about inflation or whatever, the difference in prices. But it's funny, I've got a couple of things side to side to bring up. At some point, a third of Americans are having an existential crisis right now. According to a recent study, they're having an existential crisis this year. A third what? Shut up. No, you're not. But then this great essay, if America's so Rich, how did it get so sad?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's a good one.
Joe Getty
Yeah, maybe we talk about that in the award winning hour four.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think it's that comparison thing. It's that whole I'm perfectly happy with my house unless somebody builds a nicer house next to it, then I'm unhappy. Everybody's got so much stuff and we see it all the time.
Joe Getty
Yeah, exactly. Well, you gave it away. That's the answer. That's why everybody's so sad.
Jack Armstrong
We're living a more privileged life than human beings have ever in the history of the world. And we're sad and have to take anxiety pills.
Joe Getty
Right. And convinced that our lives are miserable
Jack Armstrong
and deprived because of somebody else's politics, income inequality or maga, depending on which side of it you're on.
Joe Getty
I think here's the answer for you. And once you know this folks. You'll be liberated. Congratulations. Enjoy your new liberation. Discontent is absolutely necessary to get political change. You've got to convince people they're unhappy even if they're happy 100%. Convince them that they're being abused because of their race or who they like to have sex with or whatever. That's the only way you get change and get attention in politics.
Jack Armstrong
Not the best way.
Joe Getty
Vote for me.
Jack Armstrong
Not the best way. The only way.
Joe Getty
Exactly. And if you're in a society that
Jack Armstrong
say I'm thinking creatively here, people are
Joe Getty
constantly surrounded by politics and political fundraising every day. What does that equal? A never ending message that you ought to be miserable because you're put upon and you're a victim all the time. Coming from everywhere.
Jack Armstrong
Even though by all data points that you would use to measure that sort of thing, you should be happier. We should be happier than we are
Joe Getty
to get your money and get your votes. Once you figure that out, you will be like me, light hearted and cheery. They should check themselves before they wreck themselves. You're right Margot what he said.
Jack Armstrong
More on the way.
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Jack Armstrong
Need to stop pretending people care about the WNBA just so they can look enlightened. Nobody cares.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. That's the ugly face of sexism folks. Hate to hear that. A couple of stories I have side by side to bring to you kid. A single kid, and this is not the record by the way, consumed 13,000 YouTube videos during school in three months. And that's just one example.
Jack Armstrong
During school.
Joe Getty
Yeah, on a school issued device.
Jack Armstrong
By the by, my son tells me about kids in his class who are on their phones the whole time. I don't even know how to react to that. I do not understand how that is a thing. How does the teacher not say put your phone away period and if you're on it again, I'm taking it until the end of class? How is that not the always case? Right?
Joe Getty
Why from time immemorial has a teacher not let the kids read a comic book or guitar player magazine in my case or whatever during class because they understand kids will want to do that, but they're tasked with teaching those children and part of teaching them is not letting them screw around. And everybody knew it.
Jack Armstrong
Like you always say be like if back in the day you plugged in a television and put on headphones, big
Joe Getty
screen TV and The teacher just says,
Jack Armstrong
well what are you gonna do? So what am I missing on this? I ask my son this all the time and he says, the teacher says put it away. And then they don't. And then he just keeps going.
Joe Getty
Because they've lost the ability to discipline the kids, so they've given up. Because of progressive policies in education. Here's the world's least surprising study this from the National Bureau of Economic Research. Schools across the US have sharply restricted student use phones during the school day. We evaluated one type of restriction lockable phone pouches using nationwide data, blah blah blah. Using a staggered difference in difference design, we found that pouch adoption substantially reduces phone use as measured by GPS pings and teacher reports. Listen to this.
Jack Armstrong
As if anybody needed this.
Joe Getty
In the first year after adoption, disciplinary incidents increased and students subjective well being falls consistent with short term disruption. So the kids had to be taught
Jack Armstrong
to fall in line. They're like, oh man, this sucks.
Joe Getty
However, effects on well being became positive almost immediately afterward and disciplinary effects fade.
Jack Armstrong
That's nice. I don't care if that's true or not though. Even if you stay unhappy, you can't look at your phone in class. The fact that ultimately you end up happier is great. But even if you didn't end up happier, you can't watch television during science class. The end. I know how this is. They're debating in this school district whether or not what's the debate, what's the
Joe Getty
other side of the debate and how did it get this far?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. It makes me so mad.
Joe Getty
I mean the teachers unions don't care. All they want is what is easy and gets them the most money. They don't care about the kids.
Jack Armstrong
How is every school in America already at a zero tolerance policy for looking at your smartphone in every class? I don't understand it. It makes my brain hurt. It makes me think I'm losing my mind. Or that it is no country for old men, that I've just aged out of something. There's something going on in the world that I don't get because I'm old. But I don't understand how it's not a universal no phones in the classroom already.
Joe Getty
That's how I felt about boys playing in girls sports like four years ago when voices like ours were, you know, seldom heard because everybody was afraid. I thought I must be losing my mind. That, that, that that person with the bangs and the makeup is a lad and he's beating the bejesus out of the girls on the field of Play Is anybody with me? Oh, boy. They're insane in the brain. Yeah, apparently.
Jack Armstrong
If it's what you said, that teachers just feel built, beat down. That has to be the most demoralizing job in the world. To stand up there and talk. To stand up there and talk to a room full of people staring at the front. I couldn't do it. Maybe it's easy for me to say because, you know, I'm not in that situation where, you know, I've got tenure, I got a salary. I'm going to keep making this salary. I can't get fired. This is better than whatever else I could do to try to make this amount of money. And you get a pension and all that. I suppose that's where you end up.
Joe Getty
Yeah. But a lot of people are miserable about it because people get in teaching because it brings them joy, and the joy has been beaten out of it. I think it no support from the faculty, none from the parents, none from the politicians.
Jack Armstrong
I feel like I would just have to say, put away your phones. If you don't put away your phone, I'm taking at the end of class. And then if I end up getting disciplined or fired, then I do something else. But that's easy to say.
Joe Getty
Yeah, you'd be doing something else. I think that's it.
Jack Armstrong
That's crazy.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Why. Why'd Mr. Armstrong get fired from science class? Because he wouldn't let people watch television during his class.
Joe Getty
What? He's a fascist. He's a monster.
Jack Armstrong
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Date: May 6, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
This episode of Armstrong & Getty is driven by a spirited dissection of shifting media attitudes about Islam, Israel, and anti-Semitism—centered around controversial comments and perceived flip-flops by high-profile media figures like Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly. The hosts critically examine the broader cultural and political climate, express alarm at rising anti-Semitism, and intersperse the discussion with commentary on education, airline cost-cutting, and social discontents. The exchange is direct, irreverent, and at times darkly humorous, in true A&G fashion.
The hosts recall Kelly’s previous hardline stance on Islam (from January), contrasting that with her recent softening.
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This episode of Armstrong & Getty takes listeners on a critical walk through the crosscurrents of current events, media hypocrisy, and a rapidly shifting American and global culture. As always, the show is a blend of rapid-fire insight, personal frustration, and biting wit—anchored by a deep skepticism of elite narratives and an insistence on saying what they see, without fear or favor.