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Joe Getty
You're listening to an I Heart podcast.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the.
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Jack Armstrong
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Are you saying you say they don't need Americans could see empty store shelves?
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Donald Trump
No, I'm. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they don't need to have $30, they can have three. They don't need to have 250 pencils, they can have five.
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Joe Getty
That's some odd political messaging.
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Mike Hanson
It is the you have too many pencils message like we said earlier. Come on, be honest with yourself. If Barack Obama or Joe Biden had lectured you, you have too many pencils, your kids have too many toys, how would you have liked that? I just, I don't understand why he's going with that angle. If he wants to go with the angle that we're in a tariff war, it's going to be painful for a while. Things could be more expensive. Shelves might be a little bare, but it'll turn around. We just need to stick it out. I think he'd be in much better shape than you have too many pencils.
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Joe Getty
Well, yeah, or if he'd even. Let's putting us putting aside the oddness of using pencils, toys instead of dolls, saying the reason your kids have so many toys and they're so cheap is because we've been doing these unfair trade deals with China and they're getting rich and we're flooded with cheap goods, which has been kind of cool. But we can't give away America's manufacturing base. So yeah, things are going to be a little more expensive but we're not going to be enriching the communist Chinese. I would be happy to be a spokesman. I mean I think that would have.
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Mike Hanson
Been really effective messaging little Johnny with his 250 pencils. You spoiled brat.
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Joe Getty
Oh, I'm telling you, he like writes one word, throws each pencil away. He's so pencil rich.
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Mike Hanson
By the way, it's the Department of Homeland Security that will pay for booting out the illegals. That's this is breaking news. We had last hour thousand dollar stipend to illegals who self deport plane tickets and $1000. So we'll fly you out, give you a th000 bucks just get you could.
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Joe Getty
Upgrade to first class, get a meal your way back to wherever you're going.
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Mike Hanson
Let's see if this actually happens or how well it works. He also late in the day said he's going to reopen Alcatraz for the illegals.
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Joe Getty
So and announced a tariff via Truth Social on movies that are made outside of the U.S. i don't even know what that means exactly.
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Mike Hanson
100% tariff on foreign made movies.
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Joe Getty
You know, look, there's a lot of stuff he's doing that's great. Restructuring trade deals, fine. Especially with China, absolutely necessary. Got it. But one guy being able to just announce this sort of thing or call it off or say he was kidding. There's gonna be a Democrat in the White House. We don't want him doing this.
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Mike Hanson
Man, people too chaotic. People still jump at the bait. So like the whole Alcatraz thing, I thought it was interesting. I was watching a bunch of news coverage this morning. Everybody took The Alcatraz thing 100% seriously talked about how difficult it would be to do and maybe it's not legal and everything. I watched Fox and Friends and they said of course he's not going to do that. What? He's just trying to. I mean they dismissed it that quickly? Yeah, they didn't even, not even another breath about it. He's just trying to draw attention to the courts trying to stop him from booting out illegals. So the whole take him seriously or literally thing continues to be a thing. And the same thing on the third term situation. Trump running for a third term. Well, let's play the clip. He did Meet the press for the third time in 105 days.
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Joe Getty
Trump did Meet the Press yesterday, which is beautiful transparency. I mean we ought to require that not Meet the Press necessarily Cuz Kristen Welker's obnoxious, but the idea that a president subjects himself to questioning by a hostile source repeatedly, that ought to be a model going forward. It's fantastic.
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Mike Hanson
I feel like this is trolling, but we'll discuss that afterwards.
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Joe Getty
The Trump Organization is selling hats that say Trump 2028.
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Mike Hanson
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Are you seriously considering a third term, Mr. President, even though it's prohibited by.
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Kristen Welker
The Constitution, or is this about staying politically vile?
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Donald Trump
I will say this. So many people want me to do it. I have never had requests so strong as that. But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge, you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's constitutional, that they're not allowing you to do it or anything else, but there are many people selling the 2028 hat. But this is not something I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years and turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, A great Republican to carry it forward. But I think we're gonna have four years, and I think four years is plenty of time to do something really spectacular.
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Mike Hanson
And then he lays out where are.
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Joe Getty
The headlines in the New York Times? Trump says, no, I'm cool. One term's fine.
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Mike Hanson
Well, he got another news cycle out of it, so it's a tough one, you gotta admit. I mean, that's a tough one. Mark Halpernoyes writes in his newsletter that Trump is the most difficult person to cover in the history of journalism because he does jerk people around and troll. So what do supposed to do if the sitting president says, I'm going to run for a third term? Are you supposed to say, no, you're not, and ignore it? That doesn't really make sense.
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Joe Getty
You're right. You're right. Yeah.
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Mike Hanson
I mean, if Reagan or Obama or whoever had said it, of course you got to make that the first question the next time you get to ask him anything. But with Trump, I feel like you got to just ignore it and move.
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Joe Getty
Ask about the tariff war reminds me of when my kids were kids and I would make. It was a game we played over and over again. I would make some extraordinary and ludicrous claim about, you know, something I'd done in my life or was gonna do whatever. And they'd say, dad. And I say, no, no, really. And they would grill me about it and try to catch me in the lie and whatever. And it was always fun and it was probably good for their minds, honestly. But Trump is doing that. Yeah, I might be running for A third term? Well, it's unconstitutional. You can't do that. Or you say, well, I don't. Many people want me to. Dad, dad, you can't run for a third term. I don't know, I'm looking into it. I just.
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Mike Hanson
He's teasing, obviously, to my mind. But again, what are you supposed to do? Ignore the sitting president saying, going to defy the Constitution and run for a third term.
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Joe Getty
Right. And he's going to move the Oval Office to Alcatraz. Okay, whatever. Can we stop with this?
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Mike Hanson
The fact that they actually have the 20, 28 hats on his website.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, well, it's, it's, it's a troll.
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Mike Hanson
Well, it's just like the day four of trolling. The whole I'm going to be pope thing. Yeah, he keeps saying, or his own site, they truthed out that AI image of him as the Pope.
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Joe Getty
You know, back in the day, my daughter, when she was doing an internship, her gig was to go through many, many, many news sources and find out which of that firm's clients were being mentioned in news accounts and in what ways. So that sort of thing exists. If I'm, you know, MAGA media guy, I'm checking to see how many places are talking about the Trump 20, 28 hats and how many people are talking about a third term, the rest of it. And I'd say, yeah, we're still getting a fair amount of heat from this and say, okay, put out a new edition of the hat. What the heck, let's keep the boiler going.
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Mike Hanson
So he does that, gets a lot of coverage, mentions Alcatraz, gets a lot of coverage. And I wonder if that wasn't coordinated with Israel's announcement that they're going to go in and take over Gaza, because that would be the lead story if it weren't for the couple of Trump big things that he popped off yesterday. That might absolutely be a coordinated effort.
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Joe Getty
You know that I would love to know that. Just not because it like matters to the future of the Republic, but I would just like to know, strategy wise, how they, how they look at that sort of thing. I mean, that makes sense because this is a huge move by Israel. They've approved a plan to occupy Gaza and control aid distribution. Because the problem is, and look, there are people who need food in Gaza, no doubt, but when they allow aid in, it feeds and finances Hamas, who is at this point their sworn enemy. And there's no damn two state solution coming down the pike and there's not going to be. And so they're trying to figure out, all right, how do we ensure our security and get these people fed without enriching Hamas? And they're essentially going to occupy the place and run it themselves. I was looking at some of the mainstream media coverage of it earlier today and the New York Times. It was funny. I don't know if this is intentional, just a quirk of the website, but I would look at the website and they had this video. She doesn't need to click on them. They're just running, like, on the front page, as it were, of kids in Gaza clamoring for food. They'd go from site to site to site with kids holding their pans out, begging for food. And every article I would read, it would bring me back to that video on the main page. No matter where I departed, like the main website from, it always brought me back to that video. And I wonder if that's intentional or not. But as I was watching, struck me that this is. If Hamas had filmed this and had a plan for ratcheting up sympathy for us and anger toward the damn Jews, they'd handle it exactly the way the New York Times did.
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Mike Hanson
Right?
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Joe Getty
I mean, it was like from central casting. And. And as an afterthought in the story they throw in, by the way, Israel says, you know, everything, be cool if they let the hostage. If Hamas let the hostages go. But anyway, in other news, like, no, no, no, wait a second. I got time. I got a minute. Let's talk about the hostages. Let's talk about why they're still being held. Let's talk about how many of them were killed while hostages. Let's talk about how many of them might still be alive. Let's go ahead and talk about that. Don't just tack that on in paragraph 17 and move on like it's an afterthought. Come on.
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Mike Hanson
Oh, one more thing about the whole Pope dealio. So the conclave starts, I guess. I did this. Had the story from Kim Commando last week about the just unbelievable over the top security that they've got there. I mean, it was really impressive sensors and, and signal jammers and everything like that to make sure this stays secret.
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Joe Getty
Drones and lead curtains. Yeah, it's crazy.
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Mike Hanson
Somebody texted and I think very appropriately, it had been nice if they'd have put anywhere close to this kind of effort into stopping priests from raping kids over and over again for decades and lying about it.
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Joe Getty
I mean, I'm moving the priests around.
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Mike Hanson
I am pro Catholic church and all kinds of different things, but that is just unconscionable and they haven't even come close to owning that, in my opinion. I mean, that's a really good point. Boy, we wouldn't want it to leak out 10 minutes early who the Pope is, but we'll move around a pedophile priest and hide it from you and look you in the face and say, your kid's safe here at our church.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, that's rough, man.
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Mike Hanson
That is rough.
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Joe Getty
Power corrupts. And bureaucracies protect themselves. So all you have to know and just be on the guard against that always. Don't be a naive SAP, no matter how, you know, auspicious an organization ought to be. Power corrupts and bureaucracies protect themselves.
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Mike Hanson
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
At the cost of children's souls. It's. It's despicable. Oh, on a much lighter note than that.
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Mike Hanson
Lighter than child rape? Okay.
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Joe Getty
Yes, yes. Considerably. Evidently, everybody involved in the conclave has actually seen the movie Conclave or is very, very aware of it. And they talk about it all the time.
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Mike Hanson
Oh, really? I haven't seen it. I should.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Oscar winner. I can't remember what Oscar, but it's supposed to be really, really good. Brutal politics in who gets to be Pope.
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Mike Hanson
Speaking of movies, I watched two movies over the weekend in my DB and one in the theater that I would like to talk about.
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Joe Getty
Your db?
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Mike Hanson
My deathbed. Because I am. I think I'm not long for this world. I've been sick for a month now.
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Joe Getty
You'll be missed.
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Mike Hanson
I'm a weak, weak man. But that and other stuff on the way.
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Joe Getty
Stay here, Armstrong, and get.
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Jack Armstrong
It'S true that some things change as we get older. But if you're a woman over 40 and you're dealing with insomnia, brain fog, moodiness and weight gain, you don't have to accept it as just another part of aging. And with MITI Health, you can get help and stop pushing through it alone. The experts at MIDI understand that all these symptoms can be connected to the hormonal changes that happen around menopause. And MITI can help you feel more like yourself. Again, many healthcare providers aren't trained to treat or even recognize menopause symptoms. MIDI clinicians are menopause experts. They're dedicated to providing safe, effective, FDA approved solutions for dozens of hormonal symptoms, not just hot flashes. Most importantly, they're covered by insurance. 91% of MITI patients get relief from symptoms within just two months. You deserve to feel great. Book your virtual Visit today@joinmiddi.com that's join M I D. I dot com.
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Joe Getty
Next is a pardon for author J.K. rowling.
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Mike Hanson
Jackie.
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Joe Getty
Jackie Rowling.
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Mike Hanson
We love Jackie. You know, she created a whole wizarding world, a wonderful place for overweight millennials to stake their entire identity. Well, past the point of it being cute. I'm a Hufflepuff. No, you work at Staples.
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Joe Getty
Let's keep it moving.
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Mike Hanson
Let's.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, that's a little on, a little uncomfortable. Yeah. But good point. Well, well, past the point of being.
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Mike Hanson
Cute, I like to one of the cast members and they got a great cast now on snl, but one of the cast members did his thing during the news bit about how he's not going to get the real id. I'm just not doing it. And I, I got in all the paperwork this finally this weekend submitted and I have an appointment, so I'm not going to get it by May 7, but I'm not flying yet, so I'll be all right.
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Joe Getty
Right. Well, speaking of J.K. rowling, interestingly enough, I just saw she tweeted this article that Scotland's top social worker is accusing the bosses of that agency of causing, quote, untold harm by abandoning child protection principles so they didn't have to stand up against the radical gender ideology. She's coming out and proud now and saying we have sacrificed children to this bizarre ideology. More on that another time. But speaking of Trump, and we were talking about his interview with Chr. Kristen Welker and you know, the will you follow the Constitution stuff, we talked about it fair length in hour two, the beginning of hour two, not to repeat ourselves, but she was trying to trap him and he could have answered the question a little better. But the question of will you follow the Constitution, give all these people a fair hearing, blah, blah, blah, because of due process. I was just helping my daughter study for her constitutional law final law school and the question of who gets due process in what way and what the process is and blah, blah, blah. That's the stuff lawyers argue about unendingly. So the idea, like it's a yes or no question, he answered wrong, just dishonest. He knew she was trying to trap him. He was evasive when he didn't need to be. But anyway, and the other thing we referred to a couple of times, kind of vaguely is Howard Lutnick's piece. Is it Lutnick or Besant? Besant. In the. Yeah, Wall Street Journal. I said Lutnick earlier. I apologize. But he was talking about Trump's three steps to economic growth. And the first is renegotiating global trade I'm quoting now. Tariffs are an effective tool for balancing international commerce. They reduce trade barriers in other countries. No, they don't. Unless you mean they cause other countries to go ahead and lower them themselves in return for us lowering ours again, opening more markets to American producers while also bringing back thousands of manufacturing chops. So that would suggest that.
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Mike Hanson
A lot.
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Joe Getty
Of the tariff stuff is just. It's. It's bluster, it's threats, saying, look, you gotta come to the table and do better or we're going to tariff you. But it's not a permanent plan. It's not a long term plan. And then he talked about COVID exposing vulnerabilities in the supply chain and the risk of relying on other countries for critical stuff. Absolutely true. And then he actually gets into making the 2017 tax cut and jobs act permanent, which I appreciate. Great idea. Goes into no tax on tips, overtime, Social Security, some of which strike me as somewhat wacky. Then he goes hard at. And I wish this had been, you know, more of a priority sooner. But I also need to remind myself it's only May of year one of the term. Deregulating the economy, reawakening our industrial capacity, and raising employment and wages through decreasing the horrific burden of red tape on American industry. That I love. Great idea.
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Mike Hanson
I just saw a poll. 80% of Americans want the Trump tax cuts to be renewed.
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Joe Getty
80%. Just the rich, Jack. The rich want that. That's what I hear. It's the rich.
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Mike Hanson
That must not be the way most Americans interpreted those tax cuts. Even though the mainstream media told them every day it was just a, you know, a sop to the rich.
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Joe Getty
Well, they saw it on their W2. 80% Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
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Mike Hanson
Why would a God take orders from anyone at all? Maybe I need to show you what I'm capable of.
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Joe Getty
Sentry's gone off the rails and he's dangerous. Avengers, you're gone. No one is coming to save the day. We could be the people that are coming wait. Us? Yeah, you. Why? You got some place to be? I love that guy.
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Mike Hanson
So that's the New Avengers in the. Well, the New Avengers. It's called Thunderbolts. I watched it on Friday night with my son. Thought it was absolutely fantastic. I know a lot of you don't watch Marvel movies unless you've gone with your kids. That's how I ended up into it. I'd never seen one in my life. I'm. Our old producer. Sean would come in and say, there's a new Captain America this weekend. I think, dude, what are you doing going to Captain America? You're 38 years old. And. And I had never seen any of the movies, but my kids liked him. And some of them are really good. Many of them are horrible. I went to Captain America like, a month ago. That's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It was just so freaking stupid.
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Joe Getty
Oh, they've trailed off badly last couple years.
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Mike Hanson
Boy, the critics who are saying it's reinvented itself with this one, they're absolutely right. Thunderbolts. And the only reason I bring it up really, is I thought it was. It's basically the. If you're a film buff, Seven Samurai or the American version, the Magnificent Seven. It's a group of people who, you know, they wish they hadn't made the decisions they made in their lives, and they find themselves, you know, not feeling so great about themselves or feeling pointless. And they decide, hey, helping other people and doing the right thing feels really good and working together as opposed to alone. And I thought it was a fantastic theme all the way around. And then the. The bad guy. And it's also hilarious. It's by far the funniest Marvel movie. But, I mean, freaking hilarious all the way through. Just, I laughed so hard. I'd like to see it again because I missed a lot of the jokes. They came so fast. None of us can fly. All we do is punch and shoot. What is this? But the guy who suffered from depression, who became the bad guy, briefly, my son whispered to me during the movie. He said, this is the best version of depression I've ever seen in any TV show or movie, which I thought was really something, and we talked about that a lot afterwards. So maybe that would strike your fancy. Just that the way to portray that.
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Joe Getty
Does not sound like mindless, idiotic people punching each other.
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Mike Hanson
Entertainment, such a different theme. Way more adult relationship themes. Not like in a sexy way or anything like that. Just like, adult themes of, you know, parent and Kid and. And. And working all that out and depression and stuff like that. I thought it was fantastic. At the end of the movie. I don't know if I've ever. I think I've done this one other time in my life, a bunch of us just spontaneously clapped. I've never clapped at a movie, I don't think, before in my life, and I clapped at a Marvel movie. I thought it was that good, but. So that's enough of that. You'll either see it or you won't. But the other movie that I watched over the weekend in my deathbed, sick, and I don't remember what turned me onto it. Oh, I know what. I was listening to the National Review podcast that I do every week, and Charles C.W. cook, who I love, said, if you've never seen the Bunker with Anthony Hopkins from 1982, it's the best of those kind of movies ever made. And I had never seen it. And so we're. A lot of this stuff is playing.
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Joe Getty
Right now, the Bunkers, about Carol O'Connor and Maureen Stapleton making All in the Family.
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Mike Hanson
Right. They closed the bar and it's the end of the show. No, we're on the 80th anniversary right now of the fall of Berlin and the end of World War II in Europe. So they're rerunning all kinds of World War II movies and that sort of stuff, including this one, the Bunker, which everybody keeps asking me, where did you watch it? I watched it on YouTube and I didn't pay anything for it. It was there. I don't know how this movie slipped by without being like a movie that people talk about all the time. It must have been one of those deals where it came out the same year as something else, or there were a whole bunch of World War II movies and it got buried. But Anthony Hopkins should have absolutely won an Oscar for this. It's the best portrayal of Hitler I've ever seen. His having the mannerisms of Hitler, unreal. The amount of study he must have put into that. It's in English. I like that. So they didn't. They do, you know, English with a German accent, which is kind of silly, but also much easier to deal with than having actual German. And I read the subtitles, sure, yeah. But when he would lose his S, he looked just like all those black and white films you've ever seen of Hitler waving his arms around and jerking his head around and everything like that. It's absolutely fantastic. The main takeaway, though, even though I knew this stuff and I know Everybody listening right now. If you're a dude, you probably are into World War II, and you've probably watched or read more about World War II than anybody needs to. So none of this is new news to you.
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Joe Getty
As John Mulaney said, everybody's dad seems to be studying for some World War II exam that's coming down the line.
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Mike Hanson
And this is just like the final week in the bunker. And even though I knew all this stuff, I'd never seen it portrayed in such a way of how crazy that was. And a lot of it reminded me of today's weird cult of personality and people too smart for their own good, who are insane and don't even know it. That last week or so, the commitment to Hitler, even though it was over, the Russians were closing in from one side. The Brits and the Americans were closing in from the other side. It was inevitable. Everybody knew it. But they stuck with the plan and kept listening to this ranting madman who was just crazy. And some of them, to the point of, like Goebbels, he should be well known. More well known than he is. He. He had a. This fits in with so much of what we see today. He had a PhD in literature and history. Very, very smart guy when he. He had, like, an insanely high IQ or whatever. But he bought all that crap up until the moment that he and his wife murdered their six kids and then themselves, he had a chance to get out. He and his wife had a plan together. He called up his wife and said, I think now's the time. She was outside of Berlin. Someone safe with their six beautiful little kids. She got. She got the kids to the bunker so they could kill them together because they were that committed to their kids shouldn't have to live in a world where Hitler isn't around. I mean, just nut job stuff. And a whole bunch of people buying into that ideology. It's like the sort of thing we see now, the way this mania that makes no sense can spread to other intelligent people. It's just. You just got to accept it as a fact of life that human beings are capable of it.
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Joe Getty
And as I'm always saying, intelligence and wisdom are. They. They're. You know, sometimes they go together, sometimes they do not at all. And sometimes ideology divorces intelligence from wisdom. You use your intelligence toward bizarre and. And, you know, after the storm passes, ends that you can't even describe why it seemed like such a good idea at the time. It's madness. It really is. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. By the Way as I'm clicking around while you're talking. It was a made for TV movie in 1981.
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Mike Hanson
Oh my God.
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Joe Getty
Anthony Hopkins won the, the Emmy. It is beating out some other notable.
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Mike Hanson
So good. It is so good. And yeah, I'm aware of the other Bunker movie. I watched that one too and raved about it when I watched it. That's the one that all the memes come from. Also a very, very good movie. But man, Anthony Hopkins, Hitler is something else. How, how human beings can get so far down the road of an ideology and stick with it in, in the face of all data coming at you.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Mike Hanson
That it isn't working or it isn't right or whatever. It's just we should all be disturbed by this because we apparently, we're all capable of this.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. It occurs to me that as we learn more and more about the functioning of the human brain and they can put the sensors on and what was the study we talked about a couple of weeks ago? It was quite extraordinary. They could tell one feeling from another that were very, very subtly different. I can't remember the specifics, but the sophistication of that thing is increasing. I can picture at some point them doing a brain scan and saying, oh, he has his ideological madness center going. You can point out any facts you want. He won't process them. He'll deny the validity of anything that goes against his current ideology. And whether there'll be a medication or a beating or I don't know, some sort of detox program, you will realize, oh, that 21 year old women's studies major cannot be reasoned with at this point. So there's no point in even trying. We need to do this instead.
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Mike Hanson
So that last week or so in the bunker is one of the more insane things that's ever happened in world history. I mean, when Eva Braun, his girlfriend at the time, moves all her stuff in, I mean, this is in the last days. The Russians are like 300 meters from the bunker. Right. And she moves in all her furniture and her clothes and refined china so they can have tea parties every afternoon and listen to music and dance. I mean, it's insane.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Mike Hanson
That these people are living like this and this, they got this story from the people that survived. There are like a handful of them that got out and were able to describe what it was like there in the last days. They were there witnessing it. And you either, everybody knew that if you could go west, you got captured by the Brits or the Americans, you know, you're going to get thrown in jail, get a trial, whatever. Maybe serve a sentence, maybe be put to death, depending on what you did. But if you went east, you're going to be captured by the Russians. And if you're a woman, you'd be raped and shot. If you're a man, you'd just be shot. So, I mean, that was a pretty stark difference in which, you know, of the Allies you surrendered to, and they all knew it.
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Joe Getty
Right. Well, in getting back to what was. Do you remember the name of the movie that launched all those memes?
- [30:46]
Mike Hanson
It's a very similar name.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, it's. Yeah. Reckoning or whatever it is. One of the most famous scenes everybody's seen it is when Hitler is pointing to the map and talking about Steiner. Steiner with this, Steiner that. Well, talking about Steiner, who's a general and his regiment would. Would intercede and defeat the Russians and push them back. Then they could reorganize. And that was when all the generals were standing around looking at each other like, you tell them. Uh, you tell him. I'll tell him. Steiner got defeated. He's. His men are scattered. He's got nothing. Unless he's gonna throw.
- [31:22]
Mike Hanson
You have betrayed me.
- [31:24]
Joe Getty
You are liars.
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Mike Hanson
I mean, he would just lose his ass then, right?
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Joe Getty
Exactly. Even though they're like, yeah, yeah, Steiner and his guys are long gone. And yet still you had people following him in the face of that. That contrast, that, that. That bizarre inability to see truth. They were with him in not seeing the truth. That Shiner had been defeated and his men were scattered. Yeah, that is. It makes you stop and think about humans.
- [31:54]
Mike Hanson
And then. So there in the last couple of days, he orders Albert Spear, his architect, to go out and destroy all the German towns. I want them all destroyed. Everything. The houses, the homes, everything. Their own people.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. There should be no Germany if it's not the Third Reich. And they don't deserve it. They don't deserve life.
- [32:11]
Mike Hanson
Yeah, he betrayed me. They didn't fight hard enough or they didn't fight at all. So I'm going to kill all the Germans. And Speer's version of the story, which has since been challenged quite a bit because of course, he, like everybody else, when he was put on trial and then wrote a book, He. He got out of prison, actually, he wrote a book. He. He painted a very rosy picture of the way he handled things that might not be completely accurate either way, but he didn't. He didn't carry out those plans, so it didn't happen. He claims he told Hitler at the end. By the way, I didn't burn those villages or anything like that. And he says a teary eyed Hitler looked at me as I walked out of the room. Nobody's sure if that happened or not. And that seems a little self aggrandizing, but people are so crazy. Human beings are capable of being so violently, evilly crazy. Always have been, always will be.
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Joe Getty
Ah, I'm glad you made that point. Because anybody thinks, well, that was World War II and that was the 40s and people were very different in the 1940s than they are in the modern world. You, my friend, are a fool. You can become not a fool anymore. So don't worry, it's not a death sentence. But you don't understand. Human nature doesn't change. The lunatics screaming on college campuses right now are those loyal Germans?
- [33:33]
Mike Hanson
Absolutely.
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Joe Getty
They're the same people with the same thoughts, with the same little part of their brain lighting up that I hope science can figure out someday.
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Mike Hanson
Yeah, and it's the Orwell thing that the hardest thing to do is to see what's right in front of one's own face is apparently true. We'll finish strong. Next Armstrong and Getty.
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Mass marking the end of nine days of mourning for Pope Francis, who died last month in attendance. The cardinal electors will choose the next pope. But an AI generated image of President Trump as pope has ignited a firestorm. The president posted that image on social media this weekend, and the White House reposted it. New York's Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who is a friend of Trump, said it was not good, left a bad impression, and he hoped the president had nothing to do with it.
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Mike Hanson
The fact that the White House Twitter posted that picture of Trump as pope is just. We live in a different era.
- [35:12]
Joe Getty
Yes. Yes. What, what, what does the future look like?
- [35:18]
Mike Hanson
I don't know.
- [35:20]
Joe Getty
To what extent do we return to something resembling normalcy? And to what extent do we want to?
- [35:28]
Mike Hanson
Well, how long do you have to Live in the current version of life before it is normalcy. I mean.
- [35:32]
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, Right? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm fine with it. I don't care. I'm, I'm not offended by it. I don't think it will cause any trouble.
- [35:42]
Mike Hanson
No.
- [35:42]
Joe Getty
It's just so nuts. I know what we'll do. Let's post a picture of the President as the new Pope.
- [35:51]
Mike Hanson
Now Bill Kristol, who used to be a conservative and is now a money grubbing phony who hates on Trump. He hate on Trump all day long. But he is a phony and just trying to fight it. Forgot a way to get rich, I think. Anyway, he tweeted at JD Vance, hey, JD Vance, you're a Catholic. How do you feel about your boss making a joke of the Pope? And J.D. vance's response was, I can handle humor. I can't handle lying us into a war that kills 5,000 soldiers or whatever. Because Bill Crystal is so big into the Iraq war. That was a pretty good clap back.
- [36:31]
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. So when you were talking about the Anthony Hopkins Hitler movie, the Bunker, and originally we thought it was in 1982 and I was trying to find some more information about it. And so I was looking at Best Movies, 1982. There are many people, Jack, who consider 1982 to be the all time best year for movies.
- [36:51]
Mike Hanson
I didn't know that.
- [36:52]
Joe Getty
Which I hadn't realized either. Here's your. Here's your top movies of 1982. The King of comedy.
- [36:58]
Mike Hanson
Yeah, Good movie.
- [36:59]
Joe Getty
Robert De Niro, Jerry Lewis, Martin Scorsese movie. Yeah, an amazing movie. Blade runner was 1982. Sophie's Choice. Good lord. If you're not already impressed, you ought to be. Then on a lighter note, Tootsie Tootsie, as I prefer to call, which I.
- [37:15]
Mike Hanson
Think, one Best picture.
- [37:19]
Joe Getty
Or probably started this whole one. That's right. For his gender bending madness role, you got Missing, Victor, Victoria. Speaking of gender bending menace, Gandhi.
- [37:31]
Mike Hanson
Wow, what a year.
- [37:33]
Joe Getty
The verdict, 48 hours, E.T. the extraterrestrial. Wow.
- [37:38]
Mike Hanson
That's when Hollywood made movies. They don't really anymore for a variety of reasons.
- [37:43]
Joe Getty
Star Trek, Wrath of Khan, Khan.
- [37:49]
Mike Hanson
They ain't got much to give you.
- [37:52]
Joe Getty
They gonna give you what they got. This ruler 4 hour work is about over.
- [37:57]
Mike Hanson
It's time for Funnel Thoughts. Love that. Yeah, that's great. Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe.
- [38:03]
Joe Getty
Getty Skeleton Crew today. But let's get a final thought from the few remaining here in the Armstrong, you Getty Bunker Starting with Jack. Jack. A final thought.
- [38:13]
Mike Hanson
I've been quite unhealthy now for almost a month. And I say this all the time. I don't even know what it means myself. But when you're feeling good, you should feel it's more precious or hold it in greater esteem or something. Because, man, it goes away. And everything sucks when you don't feel good. Everything.
- [38:32]
Joe Getty
Yep. The healthy man has a thousand dreams. The sick man has one dream. Special guest. Final thought. Mike Hanson.
- [38:38]
Mike Hanson
I am truly sorry to learn that you're on your deathbed, but Billy the Backup and Joe have got this thing covered in the future.
- [38:44]
Joe Getty
Oh, cool.
- [38:45]
Mike Hanson
So when I'm dead, everything will be fine.
- [38:46]
Joe Getty
Billy, very talented. My final thought also. Conan the Barbarian in 1982.
- [38:52]
Mike Hanson
What a year. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
- [38:57]
Joe Getty
So many people. Thanks. For a little time, go to armstrongandgetty.com A lot of great stuff there. The hot links. Pick up some Angie swag for your favorite ang fan. Maybe it's you. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com I saw Conan the Barbarian at.
- [39:08]
Mike Hanson
A drive in theater. It was so dark you couldn't see anything. It was like a black screen for two hours and you couldn't understand the dialogue.
- [39:15]
Joe Getty
It would have been perfect. Oh, there he goes. Folks, it's. It's really serious. They're locking up my toothpaste. The devil ain't gonna win.
- [39:27]
Mike Hanson
No, no, that's not what I was told. So everybody chill.
- [39:31]
Joe Getty
Just shut up. Okay, okay, Sorry. So let's go out with a bang. We got a smear goose liver on our chests to prevent pneumonia and the consumption.
- [39:40]
Mike Hanson
Then we're gonna kill a bison and split. Spread the blood on our foreheads and dance around a tree.
- [39:44]
Joe Getty
I know that that's not a good idea. On that high note, thank you all very much. Armstrong and Gettysburg.
- [39:50]
Mike Hanson
Ugh.
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Joe Getty
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