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Jack Armstrong
The green flag is in the air.
Steve Post
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Jack Armstrong
Photo finishes Ryan Blaney will win the.
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Colleen Witt
What's good It's Colleen Witt and Eating While Broke is back for Season three, brought to you by the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. We're serving up some real stories and life lessons from people like Van Lathan, DC Young, Fly Phone, Thugs and Harmony and many more. They're sharing the dishes that got them through their struggles and the wisdom they gained along the way. We're cooking up something special, so tune in every Thursday. Listen to Eating While Broke on the Black Effect Podcast Network. IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you.
Jack Armstrong
Get your podcast, presented by State Farm. Like a good neighbor. State Farm is there. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Couple of breaking news stories that we that happened in the last 24 hours we haven't mentioned. It broke in the New York Times that Iran offered a written guarantee that they would not try to kill President Trump and they gave that to the United States like a month or so ago.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I was actually gonna bring that up because you've been railing for quite some time correctly, that the Biden administration's got to tell him, you go after Trump, that's an act of war.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And that's precisely what the Biden administration told him, apparently just behind the scenes.
Joe Getty
Right. Which is interesting.
Jack Armstrong
So credit and then credit where it's due.
Joe Getty
Also the fact that Elon met with the Iranian ambassador to try to cool tensions between Orion and the United States. What is Elon at this point?
Jack Armstrong
Just, I guess, a guy who you don't turn down if he asks for an appointment.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Of all trades.
Joe Getty
Because he's involved in so many different things.
Jack Armstrong
Right. He calls, he asks for half an hour and you think, I don't need a gigantic rocket. He surely doesn't do direct sales for his cars to tell him yes.
Joe Getty
Maybe the satellite system or maybe I need a monkey who can communicate with the computer. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Just tell him yes and we'll see what he wants.
Unknown
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
A lot to cram into the final hour of the week. Saints preserve us. I'm looking at all the stuff I wanted to get to this week and we're barely going to scratch the surface, so let's get to it. First though, it's time for a fond look back at the week. That was its cow clips of the week.
Steve Post
A full on China syndrome.
Jack Armstrong
And so he could go all night.
Joe Getty
This is not controversial.
Jack Armstrong
This is cow clips of the week. President elect Trump is shaking things up in Washington. I'll tell you, I told the President, he comes back, I come back, we fix this. Pete Hegseth will lead the Department of Defense.
Katie Greene
And if you're distracted from the mission to take care of your virtue signaling and your wokeism, he wants you out of there.
Joe Getty
Marco Rubio, Senator from Florida, officially nominated today for Secretary of State.
Jack Armstrong
It's a tremendous honor that the president would place his confidence in me in.
Joe Getty
A position of such importance. It may be an attorney General Matt Gaetz down the road.
Jack Armstrong
U.S. attorney General Matt.
Colleen Witt
Matt will end weaponized government.
Joe Getty
One of the most intelligent members of Congress.
Jack Armstrong
I think he's qualified.
Unknown
President Trump is going to hit the.
Voice of NASCAR
Justice Department with a blowtorch and Matt.
Jack Armstrong
Gaetz is that torch. The more you get to know Matt Gaetz, the less you're going to like him.
Joe Getty
It must be the worst nomination for a cabinet position in American history. The nomination of Gaetz rocked Capitol Hill one of the most jaw dropping days Could l hear the jaws dropping to the floor.
Voice of NASCAR
One official saying this can't be real.
Unknown
And this is making everyone's head explode.
Jack Armstrong
Right now as we're all watching it. I mean, this feels like a red.
Joe Getty
Alert moment for democracy. The President elect tapping RFK Jr.
Steve Post
The conspiracy theorist.
Joe Getty
People like you, Bobby, don't get too popular, Bobby. He acknowledged that these rapid fire announcements of Cabinet picks might be seen by some lawmakers as disruptive.
Steve Post
I would describe it as God tier level trolling.
Jack Armstrong
In case you've been listening for hours. And thank you very much. We, we do cow twice. Hour one and hour four.
Joe Getty
Two headed cow.
Jack Armstrong
And well, it was today. Yeah. Hansen, our executive producer, produced two completely distinct cows. One the general news of the week and the other entirely cabinet nominee cow. Very entertaining, well done.
Joe Getty
I hope you enjoyed our beeves, which is the plural of beef. Look it up, look it, look it up. Since Matt Gaetz came up a couple of times in there, let's revisit that. So one thing on Matt Gaetz and I, he might be good at wrecking the Justice Department in the way Trump wants. I don't know. I think he is a bad person just in his personal life.
Jack Armstrong
Again, according to Ben Dominic.
Joe Getty
Well, I was about to read that. So yeah, we can get into that.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, never mind. He's several different kinds of. Not a nice fellow.
Joe Getty
But Mark Halperin wrote in his newsletter yesterday having, you know, had personal interactions with Matt Gates, he said he is behind closed doors, much more serious than his clown show that he does to get on cable news. So I thought that was interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't doubt that it's part of something we've discussed a million times. We want our, our heroes to be 100% pure of heart and admirable at every moment. And we think our villains are going to be just dastardly every breath they take. And that's not the way human beings are.
Joe Getty
Matt Gaetz is a vile sex pest and any senator who votes for him owns that. Writes Ben Dominic, guy who started the Federalist. Now he runs the transom.com. he's a serious guy and important for you to know before you turn off the radio. Nobody could be more supportive of Trump, I don't think hardly than Ben Dominic over the last several years. I mean, no matter what Twister turn Trump did Ben Dominic, including January 6, Ben Dominic found a way to support it because he's, he's, he's in that camp. But this is what he writes about Matt Gaetz. I realize that we are occasionally given to hyperbole about the untoward nature of politicians, but let me be clear. Matt Gaetz is a sex trafficking, drug addicted piece of s. Okay. He is abhorrent. His eyes are permanently rimmed with the red rings of chemical boosters. In person he smells like overexposed Axe body spray and stale Astro Glide. You. You. The fact that he boasted on the floor to multiple colleagues in the House of Representatives of his methods of crushing Viagra and high test Red Bull to maintain his erection through his orgiastic evenings is perhaps the least offensive of his many crimes against womanhood and Christian faith. The man has less principles than your average fentanyl addicted hobo. Well, that's a heck of a sentence right there.
Jack Armstrong
That's.
Joe Getty
I feel like we could have paused on many of those sentences, but that's a good one right there. The man has one would like to.
Jack Armstrong
Be compared more favorably with fentanyl addicted hobos at least would 1.
Joe Getty
Not at least their peers at the very least. As opposed to less than.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
He likes them underage and he's not ashamed about it. Matt Gaetz isn't just your average extreme Florida mega man. He's a hypocritical ass with the worst Botox money can buy.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know why this has to.
Joe Getty
Play part of it. You know, you can have his Botox and face as you want and run the fellow likes Department of Justice. He's not a fan of wrinkles. Who is? He's a hypocritical ass with the worst Botox money can buy, pursuing an ever thinner nose and higher cheekbones at every opportunity like a real housewife gone mad for fillers. Every Republican in Washington has an opinion about Matt Gaetz, and 99% of those opinions are Keep Matt Gaetz away from my wife, daughter, friend and anyone I care about. He's a walking genital, warts included. As a bonus. If I was merely attempting to count the number of women I know who have had bad experiences with Matt Gaetz, I would run out of fingers and toes. If you vote for him to be Attorney General of the United States. You don't just need your head examined. You need to be committed to a mental institution. The man is absolutely vile. There are. Here's really your final sentence you need to hear.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, he doesn't get mean here, does he?
Joe Getty
There are pools of vomit with more to offer the earth than this STD riddled testament to the failure of fallen masculinity.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, wow.
Joe Getty
So that's what.
Jack Armstrong
As the father of three come across many pools of vomit and none of them offered much.
Joe Getty
Ben Dominic is maga, and he's a very serious man and a very serious conservative who just happens to know. Actually, no. Matt Gates and I think is offended by the idea of this kind of guy being the Attorney General, and I.
Jack Armstrong
Don'T want to belabor the point, but Andrew McCarthy, who has taken on and defeated and dissected and just eviscerated the law fare against Trump, He's a very, very knowledgeable legal and constitutional expert. He has been one of the staunchest, most effective defenders of Trump in print and on air and cable for the whole warfare against Trump, period. Brilliant in his defense of Donald J. Probably.
Joe Getty
Probably to the point that it had an effect because he's a respected legal thinker.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, I would agree. He is a serious man. His headline is on Trump's foolish, futile Matt Gaetz AG nomination. He said he's stunned and he suspects Nathan Wade would have a better chance of getting confirmed to run the Justice Department. That was the lover boy in the law fair in Georgia. And he says, I almost don't see any time. And any point in wasting time discussing.
Joe Getty
This, you can come up with some clever pool of vomit like analogy metaphor.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. He chooses not to go with disgusting eloquence. The whole genitals with warts thing. Oh, Lord.
Joe Getty
Walking std.
Jack Armstrong
It's. It's a stunning takedown. And, you know, I'm sure we have some folks who are so devoted to Trump, whatever he says is gospel to them.
Joe Getty
I know it for a fact. Having gone through some of our followers last night and spent a lot of time on Twitter, I know a lot of you really believe Matt Gaetz is the guy to, you know, fix the deep state or whatever. I just wish we could pick a nicer guy.
Jack Armstrong
I think that may be the understatement of the year. A nicer guy. I think, like 98% of humanity is a nicer guy.
Joe Getty
This guy would get your daughter drunk, have sex with her, and then show videos to his friends the next day. That's who Matt Gaetz is.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a pig and disgusting. And there are plenty of guys who could shake up the Justice Department who would not be so easily taken down. Rendering your goals unfulfilled. That's the part you don't get. He doesn't go in there and because he's got super Trump powers succeed at everything. No, they'll take him down easy as pie. That's the problem. He'll be ineffective. I mean, I object to him on moral grounds, but the next step is, well, let's see. If I were to accept the idea of an utter pig being in charge of the Justice Department, would that work? And the answer is no. No, it wouldn't come close to working. No, it's ineffective. Effective. Enough said.
Joe Getty
Probably should get to the very end of this.
Jack Armstrong
And if that disappoints you, sorry, that's just reality.
Joe Getty
Here's the last writings of Ben Dominic on this about oh God, there's more about the senators involved in possibly confirming him. If they have a degree of independence, the Republicans in the Senate, any kind of free thought, mindful of the fact that a presidency is four years but your career is forever, they will reject this choice so emphatically that it sends a very simple, straightforward message. You can be an absolute dirtbag wannabe pimp pounding D pills and caffeine while you film your girlfriend twerking on the gram, or you can be a Republican. The choice is yours. So again, he does not. He's not. He's not what you'd call a squish on Matt Gates.
Jack Armstrong
I admire his pluck.
Joe Getty
What are your thoughts on it? Push back if you want to. We got more on the way. Stay here.
Unknown
Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
The green flag is in the air.
Steve Post
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Jack Armstrong
Photo finishes Ryan Blaney will win the.
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Jack Armstrong
The huge boxing match between former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson and YouTuber turnboxer Jake Paul. It's going to be a big night. Check out who else is facing off tomorrow night. Netflix takes you in the ring for the main event. Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul. But don't miss the undercard with more fights between boxing legends and YouTube stars like George Foreman versus the I like Turtles kid. I like turtles. Manny Pacquiao vs. The Chocolate Rain Guy Chocolate Rain Sugar Ray Leonard vs. The Grape Stop Lady. Don't miss it. Me, I'm excited.
Joe Getty
It's a big night. Ah, the Grape Stomp Lady I forgotten about her.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I expected they'd get to the it's cone kid.
Joe Getty
Maybe he's too young to get beaten on by an adult. Oh, Henry and I are watching it tonight. My son's going to be at his football game playing the drums.
Jack Armstrong
But I was just texting with my bride and we're getting together with some friends for some cards and frivolity tonight as we often do. But evidently Judy brought up, you know, I think Joe might want to watch the Tyson thing. And the, the wife of the other couple were getting together, says, oh yeah, oh yeah, we're going to have that on for sure. So. All right, I give.
Joe Getty
If you have Netflix, you have it. You don't have to have a pay per view or anything. So, yeah, I, I, Joe predicts doll. I think, I think there's a real good chance of Tyson gets tired and then quits. I think there's a decent chance of that. He did that when he was serious 20 years ago toward the end of his career, saying he just lost his killer instinct or whatever. Because you have to have a certain mindset to actually want to punch somebody in the head hard enough to knock them out. You have to get a certain level of meanness or hate them or something. And if you've lost that, which he said he had, I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, we'll see. After the funds out of it, he's not going to be like, oh, this is cool. I'm boxing. He's done plenty of that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, he is going to make the upper level is they're each going to make 40 million. Somewhere between 20 and 40 million. That's a lot of money.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
So here's something we've left out of the RFK Jr conversation that probably will become a bigger deal as we get closer and more people become aware of it. Maybe you dig his health stuff and you like the idea of him taking on big pharma and everything like that. Do you realize how pro life RFK Jr has been his entire career? Mike Pence put out a statement today because Mike Pence has always been a hundred percent. I mean, pro choice. RFK Jr. Has been. Mike Pence has always been 100% pro life. There should be no abortion at all guy. And he wrote today. For the majority of his career, RFK Jr. Has defended abortion on demand during all nine months of pregnancy, supports overturning the Dobbs decision, and has called the legislation to codify Roe vs. 4 legislation to codify Roe vs. Wade. If confirmed, RFK Jr. Would be the most pro abortion Republican appointed secretary of HHS in history. I don't think a lot of the people behind RFK Jr. Right now know that.
Jack Armstrong
I would agree.
Joe Getty
Yeah, he's defended a portion on demand during all nine months of pregnancy throughout his political career.
Jack Armstrong
Good Lord.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I'd like to verify that's true.
Joe Getty
Well, let's see if he's still there, if he's willing to walk that back. I mean, he'd have to walk back a lot of things he said. I've seen some of the interviews that are floating around on social media.
Jack Armstrong
Mm, yeah. Boy, there's so much to be said. I'll summarize it with this. There's a process that exists. It's required by the Constitution, and it will happen and a lot of this stuff will get settled. And if the accusations are inaccurate or exaggerated or what have you, that should come out and everybody's going to be fine. But that's why the process exists, right?
Joe Getty
It makes perfectly good sense. If you miss an hour, get our podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong.
Unknown
And Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
The green flag is in the air.
Steve Post
And we are underway. The Great American Race.
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The Motor Racing Network, NASCAR Cup, Xfinity and Craftsman Truck Series Racing live on your hometown radio station and MRN or NASCAR.com Martinsville Talladega, the Chicago street course. We have the side by side action and last lap passes for the win.
Jack Armstrong
Photo finishes Ryan Blaney will win the.
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Joe Getty
Song Michael, Remind me I saw the other day. This is now the number one something or other of all time in country music.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what but oh well, that is impressive.
Joe Getty
The tipsy song is very, very popular.
Jack Armstrong
As catchy as can be. Catchier than Covid Jack. That's what I say.
Joe Getty
Makes you want to hang around the bar and drink with your friends.
Jack Armstrong
Tell you that, you know, so many things we could get to. I got these absolutely unbelievable emails from various folks who've had relatives, all female. That's on them. Cut off connection.
Joe Getty
I hadn't thought. I hadn't put that together. But everybody I've heard from is female also. Every one of them.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, here's a sister in law, here's a. Yeah, here's a wife. And just. Ah, boy, it's just sad people losing their minds and cutting off their, you know, family connections. I mean, maybe your brother in law's jackass anyway, but come on folks, don't end friendships over presidential elections. It's fine. Your life should not revolve around the presidency. And in fact, if you turned off media for a while, you'd realize, oh, it doesn't. Anyway, so I found this really, really interesting. One of my favorite things I've read recently and I've been trying to get to it, but it's long. Roland Fryer, who is a. He's a professor of economics at Harvard. He's a really intriguing thinker. He's a black man, isn't he? Roland Fryer? I think he is. Doesn't really matter. But he describes being an undergrad at Harvard in the 90s and how they'd sit around the dorm, they'd debate religion or the role of discrimination in America. I mean, the most controversial stuff, but trading ideas and grappling with the other person's ideas and how cool that was. And then he describes, in teaching, I asked a student in the front row one day, with all this technology in social media, where do you guys have these types of conversations? And a young woman looked up from her notebook and replied, oh, we don't. And I looked around the amphitheater and asked, really? And 100 heads nodded in unison. We don't dare have those discussions at all.
Steve Post
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
And I thought they were exaggerating until a student in another class dared to ask if racial disparities are due to systemic racism or differences in work ethic. He happens to be black and from a disadvantaged background, and he earnestly wondered why in his neighborhood growing up, it seemed to him that black immigrants worked harder than American born blacks.
Joe Getty
That's fairly well documented, too.
Jack Armstrong
In class. Oh yeah. In class with a black professor who is very well known, very well respected, a white woman a couple of rows behind him called him a white supremacist and attempted to shut down the discussion in Roland Friar's class.
Joe Getty
I mean, I realize the point of this is not for me to debate her, but immigrants of other races, from other countries work harder than white people born here also.
Jack Armstrong
It's just certainly harder than me anyway. And then he asks, you know, the obvious question. If my doormates and I had the threat of academic censure hanging over our heads back then, would we have been as forthcoming? I'd like to think so, but I don't, but I doubt it. We weren't courageous. We lived in a world where the cost of information was higher and the cost of asking the wrong question was essentially zero. So debate was an efficient way to learn. And he goes into a bunch of different examples about arranged marriages and the Bible and talking to a gay man about his life experiences and, you know, the more you read it, the more you think this is one of the most important things in the world for learning. But then he gets to his main point. A decade ago, I still interacted with dozens of undergrads and doctoral students who were asking important and provocative questions about race and sex in America. But now students invite me to lunch and ask if their research idea is too rich risky. They wonder out loud what they are allowed to say in public, in quotes, as though they are in the Situation Room discussing nuclear launch strategy rather than pondering the economics of policing in a in a cafe. And then he says how some of them are trying to have anonymous discussions. But his main because he's a professor of economics, the issue affects research in economics, hardly known for its far left politics. When I use artificial intelligence to evaluate all the race and sex related papers published in the Top 6 Econ Journal for a number of years, asking the algorithm to score how liberal or conservative the conclusions leaned, I found a more than 2 to 1 leftward tilt. Overall, there were particularly big gaps in the late Obama years in the early 2000s. Did empirical output lean left at those times or were political correctness pressures especially strong? Realistically, either journal editors are refusing to publish controversial results or academics are too cowardly to even do the research. And he mentions a couple of exceptions. But his point is we are stunting learning in even fields that ought to be as dry as economics because everybody's so afraid of saying the wrong thing, asking the wrong thing, and the data reading them, leading them to the quote unquote wrong conclusion. And it's costing us billions and billions of dollars, not only just economically, but in terms of social aid programs and companies being ill informed on what they're trying to do. And his ultimate point is this stuff is incredibly damaging.
Joe Getty
Well yeah, ultimately it's not the billions, it's the complete destroying of society is the downside.
Jack Armstrong
Well yeah, now that's a downside.
Joe Getty
The end of the Enlightenment is the downside.
Jack Armstrong
This is what points out, this is.
Joe Getty
What James Lindsay is always talking about. And he was a math professor just that it had gotten into every aspect of university life. Nuts.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And he mentions his own work on race and policing has been labeled hate speech on Twitter. Pre Elon. But he said even if stone cold economists have fallen prey to self censorship, economics can tell us why. A brilliant analysis by Stephen Morris develops the basic economics of political correctness. Here's an example. Suppose there is an informed professor advising a less informed politician as to whether diversity, equity, inclusion policies help minorities. If the professor says DEI is harmful, the politician might interpret the recommendation as the honest findings of an unbiased researcher. But he also might interpret it as the motivated reasoning of a racist and might even stop asking the professor for advice. And Morris demonstrates mathematically that if the professor is sufficiently concerned about being thought a racist, he will lie and recommend even when he knows it's a bad idea for minorities. If he does tell the truth, his advice may come across as tainted by bias. The implications are unsettling for anyone trying to make decisions based on any academics recommendation.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I know I've come across this. I keep mentioning. I'm reading the book Sapiens and it's about the development of Homo sapiens and different kinds of humans and everything like that. And there are multiple theories about how Homo sapiens ended up being the only human left. There were at one time six different kinds of humans living on the planet at the same time and hopeless Homo sapiens ended up emerging as the only one. Nobody's exactly sure why, but one of the prominent theories is includes all kinds of interbreeding with different groups and them having different characteristics and levels of intelligence and abilities to do different things and surviving in different parts of the world that would lead you to believe there are differences between the races that can be measured. But nobody has the guts to pursue that because it could be used for all kinds of awful reasons and sounds bad. So nobody pursues what actually might be true because it would be a problem.
Jack Armstrong
Anybody who says we probably better not uncover the truth because bad people could use it for xyz, I reject out of hand. Sorry, I'm not going there. Let's uncover the truth and then let's deal with the truth and say you can't use this to hurt or discriminate or whatever, that's fine. But the idea that I am so wise I have perceived that the truth is too dangerous and so I forbid you from researching it. Fu. Sorry for the frank use of letters, but no, I disagree. You're not that wise.
Joe Getty
My third 13 year old who's super into this sort of stuff, we were having this very conversation the other day and he said, well even if it, even if that were true, it wouldn't make any difference because individuals still get to choose. You know how hard you work, your level of education. I thought if a 13 year old can figure that out, then why is this so controversial?
Jack Armstrong
A particularly bright one, but yeah, yeah. And so Fryer gets back to his main point is the desperate need for true academic diversity and true free thought on campuses. And he's 100% right. But I just. The thing that makes me insane is these self righteous, generally college educated, generally white, generally women like the girl who said you're a white supremacist to the black boy, young man from a tough background. I mean, holy crap. But that woman and people who think like her, they don't care or they're not even curious about if DEI hurts or helps black people. It hurts them unquestionably, in my opinion. They don't care about that. They just care about their own egos. And so they will screw and sentence black children generations more to awful outcomes in public schools, for instance, instead of seriously pursuing school reform to protect their own ego and their own beliefs. They are the opposite of honest. They are the most insidious sort of self serving, dishonest, uncaring people. And I hate them. That's hate speech. I hate you for that.
Joe Getty
I love it when you use hate speeches in I hate you.
Jack Armstrong
That is hate speech. Saying DEI doesn't work. That's not hate speech. I hate DEI is a Marxist plot. It has nothing to do with race.
Joe Getty
So I gotta run off to my son's high school for Career day. Joel, take over the last segment. Probably golf or wine, something like that.
Jack Armstrong
Golfing drunk? As a matter of fact. Yeah, you can mention to him at Career Day one of the great pleasures is you can knock off early, right?
Joe Getty
Exactly. Anyway, we got we'll finish strong next Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
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Last segment of the week. I really like this. Chris sent this about women's sports. San Jose State volleyball called for a new civil rights march and and he describes how the state of Nevada doesn't really let the women on. For instance, University of Nevada say we're not playing against a dude because Nevada has that bizarro postmodern. If a dude says he's a girl, suddenly he's a girl. Like all of a sudden we believe in magic in the 21st century, right? How about some alchemy turn? I got some lead. You want to turn it into gold for me? Good Lord. Anyway, and how that explains why a lot of the women aren't speaking out, though some are. Then he suggests this maybe a school team might try this strategy. Show up at San Jose State when it's time to serve, have all the girls line up at the back of the court server lightly taps the ball from her palm, lets it roll across the floor. Do not touch the ball. Make the ref pick it up when it's time to receive, have the girls line up at the back of the court with their backs to the net. Squat down with hands overheads like duck in cover. Do not touch the ball. After losing 21 0, have the girls link elbows and walk off the court in a line without saying a word. The optics will say it all. And he compares it to the march across the Edmund Pettus bridge out of selma, Alabama in 1965. You know, I hesitate to make that comparison because other than, you know, there certainly are acts of violence against women in women's sports by men who are claiming to be women, but it's not as widespread and horrifying as the violence against black people, blah, blah, blah. So that's a bit overly dramatic, but I like the idea of something dramatic and visual, don't you?
Katie Greene
Yeah. Some form of a protest. Yeah. And I like that because, you know, they're not completely throwing, you know, not playing the actual game itself, but they're making a statement by what they do on the court. I like it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I mean, to, to forfeit the game takes a lot of courage. And I salute these young women because they have administrators and the governments just threatening them and brow beating them and hinting, if not overtly threatening to take their scholarships away after they've spent all these years working to get one. And it's just, it's incredibly immoral. But it's too easy for the mainstream media to ignore, which they are mostly if you have them standing on the court, letting the ball fall and just standing motionless, essentially powerful, getting out of the way of spikes. News would have to show that footage. And I like the idea a lot.
Katie Greene
Of the girls on these teams too, are taking it really hard online because all of these, these teams have their own, like Instagram pages and Twitter accounts and whatnot. And people are firing back at them for being haters just from afar.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, we were talking about that earlier. The, the double sided evil coin of number one, dopey a holes get the idea that their stupid, stupid ideas are actually good ideas and are very popular because when you draw from 8 billion people around the world, you can find, you know, at least 75 who will be into anything. I think we ought to chew off our thumbs today just for fun. You can find 50 people around the world who would willingly chew off their thumb and then, and then those lunatics. You would never hear from in your life. All of a sudden like these poor young women, all of a sudden they have a. Those. Those a holes. Pardon me, Vicious jackass lunatics have a direct line to. To. To make themselves, make the women aware of them. Them to get in the women's face, as it were. That's just. Human beings are not designed for the Internet. I don't know if we can adjust before we make ourselves nuts. Nuts, sir, Than we already.
Katie Greene
I was going to say, I wonder that already happened.
Jack Armstrong
Final note, apropos of nothing, certainly not that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's new government efficiency department is now soliciting applications on X. You have to be a subscriber to Twitter to apply, but this is attractive. They're processing the applications in the usual way companies and government agencies do. Then Musk and Ramaswamy are going to personally review the top 1% of applicants, however they come up with that. But the department, the actual ad said on X, quote, we need super high IQ small government revolutionaries willing to work 80 plus hours per week on unglamorous cost cutting. And then they said, and it's not clear. Oh indeed. This will be tedious work. Make lots of enemies and compensation is zero. Now, I don't know if they meant literally it would be unpaid. Hmm, 80 hours a week.
Katie Greene
It's excessive.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, if you're working six hours a day, that's 12 and a half hours a day. Six days a week. 12 and a half hours per day?
Colleen Witt
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Jack Armstrong
Eight to 8:30 every day. Six days a week. I believe in smaller government, but. Hey boss, can I have this afternoon off, please?
Joe Getty
Hey kids, it's that time again.
Colleen Witt
With Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day, beginning with our technical director, Michelangelo Michael. Final thought. You know, Jack's doing a career day today. He should get up in front of the class and then act like Mike Tyson and say, you know what? This is what I do for a living. But it doesn't matter what you do because we're all gonna be gone soon. We'll all be dead and just depress the whole classroom. We'll all be dust and then just stare at the kids. Katie Greene, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.
Katie Greene
Katie, I will be attending a watch party to watch the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight tonight. And I think Mike Tyson is going to knock Jake Paul out.
Jack Armstrong
Really?
Katie Greene
Yes, I think so.
Jack Armstrong
And I take it from your tone and the look on your face. You're, you're rooting for that?
Katie Greene
Oh, yes, big time.
Jack Armstrong
All right. Jack is off at his kids career day. Gosh. My final thought is I'm getting dragged into watching this Tyson thing. I object to it on the merits. On its face, it's, it's, it's bread and circuses. It's, it's immoral. Can we read some Proust this evening?
Katie Greene
I think if I'm keeping count, that's the 43rd thing you've rejected this morning.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well, I'm a rejectionist. I actually, I will gladly watch a bunch of behemoths in brightly colored uniforms slam into each other on Sunday afternoon. So, yeah, all right. To each their own. So many people who thank so little time. Armstrong and Getty Wrapping up another grueling four hour workday, head to Armstrong and getty.com a lot of great hot links. You can pick up an Ang T shirt for your favorite Armstrong and Getty fan. We'll see you Monday. God bless America. Armstrong and Getty. These are the kind of guys you like to smack in the ass. That's what I'm talking about. Don't get too popular.
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Jack Armstrong
And I'll just say this, and I mean it.
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Joe Getty
Who cares about lake after that?
Steve Post
I mean, obviously it's not serious in particular.
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Jack Armstrong
And again, thank you so much for sharing that. Well, we'll just leave it there on this Friday morning.
Joe Getty
Bye bye. Have a great Friday, you mother Armstrong and Getty.
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Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Hope You Enjoyed Our Beeves"
Release Date: November 15, 2024
In the episode titled "Hope You Enjoyed Our Beeves," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a range of pressing political and social issues, offering their unfiltered perspectives and engaging in robust discussions. This long-form summary captures the essence of their conversations, highlighting key points, notable quotes, and insightful analyses.
Timestamp: [02:58]
Jack Armstrong opens the episode by referencing a recent New York Times report about Iran providing a written guarantee to the United States that they will not attempt to assassinate former President Donald Trump. This revelation sparks a critical discussion between the hosts.
Jack Armstrong:
"I was actually gonna bring that up because you've been railing for quite some time correctly, that the Biden administration's got to tell him, 'You go after Trump, that's an act of war.'"
[03:18]
The conversation underscores the tension between the incoming administration and former President Trump, highlighting potential escalations in international relations.
Timestamp: [03:36]
The hosts touch upon Elon Musk’s recent meeting with the Iranian ambassador, analyzing Musk's multifaceted role in global affairs.
Joe Getty:
"What is Elon at this point? Just, I guess, a guy who you don't turn down if he asks for an appointment."
[03:55]
Armstrong and Getty speculate on Musk’s influence and the implications of his diplomatic engagements, emphasizing his unpredictable yet significant presence in international diplomacy.
Timestamp: [07:00] – [15:15]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the nomination of Congressman Matt Gaetz for the position of Attorney General. Both hosts express vehement criticism, supported by external opinions and expert analyses.
Joe Getty:
"Matt Gaetz is a vile sex pest and any senator who votes for him owns that. ... He is abhorrent."
[07:24 – 09:25]
The discussion intensifies as Getty elaborates on Gaetz’s alleged misconduct and questions his suitability for the role. They cite critiques from Ben Dominguez, a prominent conservative commentator, who describes Gaetz as a “sex trafficking, drug-addicted piece of s**t.”
Joe Getty:
"The man has less principles than your average fentanyl-addicted hobo. ... Matt Gaetz is a walking genital, warts included."
[09:58 – 10:54]
Armstrong and Getty argue that Gaetz’s nomination is unprecedentedly detrimental, potentially undermining the Justice Department’s integrity.
Jack Armstrong:
"He'll take him down easy as pie. That's the problem. He'll be ineffective."
[13:16 – 14:26]
The hosts contend that Gaetz lacks the moral and ethical foundation required for the position, suggesting his tenure would be marked by ineffectiveness and further political turmoil.
Timestamp: [26:00] – [35:08]
Transitioning from politics to academia, Armstrong and Getty explore Roland Fryer’s insights on the stifling of free thought in modern universities. Fryer, a Harvard economics professor, discusses how political correctness and fear of academic censure are hindering meaningful discussions and research.
Roland Fryer’s Analysis:
"We are stunting learning in even fields that ought to be as dry as economics because everybody's so afraid of saying the wrong thing."
[28:36 – 29:03]
Joe Getty:
"Anybody who says we probably better not uncover the truth because bad people could use it for xyz, I reject out of hand."
[34:19 – 35:08]
The hosts argue that the current academic environment discourages critical thinking and honest discourse, leading to detrimental effects on education and societal progress. They emphasize the necessity for true academic diversity and resilience against ideological conformity.
Timestamp: [19:11] – [20:52]
Armstrong and Getty preview the highly anticipated boxing match between former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson and YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul. They discuss the fighters' motivations, potential outcomes, and financial implications.
Joe Getty:
"He is going to make the upper level as they're each going to make 40 million. Somewhere between 20 and 40 million. That's a lot of money."
[20:43 – 20:52]
The conversation highlights the commercialization of boxing events and the merging of traditional sports figures with internet personalities, questioning the long-term impact on the sport's integrity.
Timestamp: [40:08] – [43:05]
The hosts examine a protest strategy employed by the San Jose State volleyball team, drawing parallels to historical civil rights marches. They critique the response from administrators and the backlash on social media.
Jack Armstrong:
"It takes a lot of courage. ... The optics will say it all."
[41:54 – 42:07]
Katie Greene:
"Of the girls on these teams too, are taking it really hard online because... people are firing back at them."
[42:51 – 43:05]
Armstrong and Getty commend the athletes' bravery while condemning the hostile online environment, stressing the need for respectful discourse and support for female athletes advocating for their rights.
Timestamp: [44:18] – [45:48]
A critical look is taken at the newly announced Government Efficiency Department, spearheaded by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. The hosts dissect the challenging job requirements and questionable compensation structure.
Jack Armstrong:
"They are processing the applications in the usual way companies and government agencies do... we need super high IQ small government revolutionaries willing to work 80 plus hours per week... compensation is zero."
[44:52 – 45:48]
The discussion reflects skepticism about the feasibility and ethical considerations of such demanding roles, questioning the sustainability and true intentions behind this governmental initiative.
Timestamp: [45:56] – End
In the closing segments, Armstrong and Getty share personal anecdotes and final reflections on the episode's topics. They emphasize the importance of maintaining personal relationships despite political disagreements and advocate for open-mindedness in societal debates.
Jack Armstrong:
"Don't end friendships over presidential elections. It's fine. Your life should not revolve around the presidency."
[26:24 – 35:08]
Joe Getty:
"If you have Netflix, you have it. ... I think Matt Gaetz is the guy to fix the deep state or whatever. I just wish we could pick a nicer guy."
[Various Timestamps]
The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage thoughtfully with current events and prioritize meaningful conversations over divisive rhetoric.
Joe Getty on Matt Gaetz:
"Matt Gaetz is a vile sex pest and any senator who votes for him owns that."
[07:24]
Jack Armstrong on Academic Censorship:
"We are stunting learning in even fields that ought to be as dry as economics because everybody's so afraid of saying the wrong thing."
[26:00]
Joe Getty on Government Efficiency Department:
"They are processing the applications in the usual way companies and government agencies do... compensation is zero."
[44:52]
"Hope You Enjoyed Our Beeves" offers a candid exploration of contentious political appointments, the erosion of free academic discourse, and the commercialization of sports, all framed within the hosts' assertive viewpoints. Armstrong and Getty challenge listeners to critically assess the integrity of political figures, advocate for genuine dialogue in educational institutions, and remain vigilant against superficial media narratives. Their passionate discourse serves as a call to uphold ethical standards and foster resilient societal structures amidst increasing polarization.
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