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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and get it.
Jack Armstrong
An urgent search in New York City for this man who police say randomly murdered and set fire to an elderly couple who let him into their queen's home to charge his cell phone.
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Jack Armstrong
That's about the worst story I've ever heard in my life.
Joe Getty
Oh, I'm skipping a lot of the details because it's just too horrible. What this guy did to this poor older couple is unspeakable, medieval, just gut wrenching. One more clip.
Jack Armstrong
Police say the suspect is Jamel McGriff, an armed and dangerous career criminal out.
Joe Getty
On parole for robbery.
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You know, the message to the public is clear. New York lets career criminals out over and over and over again.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Quoted Nelly Bowles earlier in the show. Every murderous lunatic in America gets one free murder because we won't put you in jail for good until you murder somebody.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It should be at least the co message. We let people do bad things over and over and over again. So there's a lot of them out there. So the likelihood something, something bad is going to happen to you has risen in recent years. That's the message. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Which leads fairly comfortably to a discussion about Zoran Mumdani. How do you pronounce his name again? Do we have that helpful. Letitia James from New York. Get that if it's handy, Michael. But William Galston of the Wall Street Journal is one of their opinion writers. He's a longtime professor of public policies, a Brookings Institution guy. He's, I would definitely describe him as kind of a cerebral moderate Republican as opposed to a bomb checker. And he writes about just a year.
Jack Armstrong
And a half ago, is going to be the mayor, by the way, so might concentrate you on this conversation. This isn't a theoretical. He is aside from some like meteor or it turns out he's got somebody buried in his backyard. He is going to be the mayor based on the polls that came out yesterday.
Joe Getty
Zorron mon die. Right. That's wrong. Anyway, so it was about a year and a half ago that he was a member of the New York State assembly and he gave the keynote, keynote speech at the Democratic Socialists of America's national convention in Chicago. And he emphasized the significance of being part of the dsa. He went on about we are special because of our organization. And our organization was different because it's of its sincerity. Unlike other political groups, we mean what we say. We have a socialist politic. Socialism is our theory and DSA is our practice. Hammered the point, Bernie, that the Democratic Socialists of America should be taken at their word. So, okay, Galston writes that, you know, from FDR on, people have, you know, called various things socialism. A lot of democrats are thinking about democracy like the Scandinavian countries with like a really generous safety net. And we've explained why that wouldn't work in the us. But the dsa, though their official platform, is committed to the. To socialism in the classic sense, the textbook sense. Public ownership of the means of production. Updated for the information age. And I quote from their platform. Our fight is to end capitalist exploit exploitation. In overcoming the old barbaric order of capitalism, the working class will not only liberate itself from its own shackles, but all of humanity from the parasitic death drive of capitalism.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, you're actually socialists. Okay.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. And communists?
Jack Armstrong
Honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is wild. How do you look at all the statistics about capitalism and what it's done for the world? Free market is a better term, as you always say. How do you look at all the stats of free market and how many people it's lifted out of poverty and all that sort of stuff and defy that?
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Joe Getty
It's one of the riddles of human beings that they fall for the scam of communism over and over again because it sounds good to people who don't understand how it always works. But so to end the exploitation, achieve liberation. The DSA calls for the nationalization of railroads, utilities, critical manufacturing technology companies, institutions of monetary policy, insurance, radio, real estate, finance, all of it nationalized. And if that wasn't sweeping enough, the DSA calls for public ownership of hospitals, other healthcare providers. It urges government control of food production with a call to socialize the agriculture system. Wow, Stalin tried that. So did Mao. Finally, it calls for social ownership of all the media and Internet providers.
Jack Armstrong
So be, be, be fair for a moment. What would they say when you, if someone like you, some belligerent like yourself said, yeah, Stalin tried that. So did Mao. So did lots of other people in other countries where people start. What would their, their honest response be to that?
Joe Getty
Well, I, and, well, and I'll tell you, and I've been hearing it since I was a college kid, they would say they didn't do it. Right. They made mistakes.
Jack Armstrong
So it's that old dodge. It's just nobody's actually ever tried it in an honest way.
Joe Getty
Right. We're going to do it pure socialism slash communism. And we're not going to let our fat cats get too much control and we're not going to allow people to get rich. We're going to be pure hearted about it, which is hilarious.
Jack Armstrong
But we're going to be able to tell from a single office how many acres of this or that you should plant when. How is that going to work?
Joe Getty
Right? Yeah, I know, it's a nightmare. And just to reiterate my point in bringing this up is that I don't want you to hear the DSA and think, oh, they want to be slightly more like Denmark and think, you know, that seems to work for the Danes. What's so bad about the dsa? I'm going to go on there. They don't stop with control of the economy to liberate society. They demand that the US work toward collapsing the criminal justice system. Among other measures. This means defunding the police, freeing all prisoners and other incarcerated people from involuntary confinement. This is their words, friends, not mine, theirs. Ending policing of black and brown neighborhoods. What do you black folks think of that idea? Disarming all law enforcement officers and repealing any local ordinance that criminalizes people involved in the sex and drug trades. And there's more. They weigh in on a host of social and cultural issues. Its immigration plant calls for the demilitarization of the border and an end to all immigration detention and deportation. Also the abolition of the U.S. immigration Customs Enforcement, an immediate unconditional amnesty for all immigrants regardless of legal status. So wide open border and 100% amnesty.
Jack Armstrong
So the poll is referencing that shows that Mom Donami with those views is going to be the mayor of New York. Came out yesterday. He's leading Andrew Cuomo, who shouldn't be allowed to be anything ever again. 4624. Wow, 20 points ahead. And then when you break it down, it's so interesting. Even a third of old people prefer mom, dummy. I mean, he's running away with it with the young and stupid. You can give them a pass. I Guess because they went to college and their college professors told them all this stuff was a good idea. But if you're old, if you're over 65, you've been around, you should know better. A third of them support him.
Joe Getty
You're an idiot.
Jack Armstrong
You are an idiot. The more education you have, the more likely you are to support Mumdami. No, no degree whatsoever. 30%, he would still win. But bachelor's degree or more, it's 60% or better. And climbs as you go up. That is really troubling. And then Manhattan, where you got all these rich, smart people, in theory, living in New York, surrounded by reality. Almost 60% of Manhattanites support Mandami. Yeah, Good.
Joe Getty
So the idea that the more educated you are, quote, unquote, the more you support the guy. Excuse me, I would point out, and I could support this idea all day long, but when you hear educated, think indoctrinated, because as I've said, like in most programs in universities right now, they're there to indoctrinate you. You might learn a little accounting while you're there. Although, like, accounting programs are more, you know, nuts and bolts, like engineering, but in any of the liberal arts fields, you're there to be indoctrinated. And they might teach you some political science, for instance. So, yeah, the more indoctrinated the you are, the more you support Mundani. I get that. A couple more things. Their housing policy features universal rent control. Universal all rents decided by the government. On a health.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, that's okay, go ahead.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, go ahead if you want. But on health care, it says minors should be able to obtain gender affirming care without parental consent and advocate such treatments, including hormone replacement therapy and surgery for all prisoners who request it. So all children and all prisoners.
Jack Armstrong
So where do you start? So your economic policies have been tried and failed over and over again.
Joe Getty
But then you get hundreds of millions of people have died. I mean, it's not like it was mildly inconvenient and the trains ran late.
Jack Armstrong
But you add into that you think little kids should get to decide for themselves. I think I'm a boy. And then the doctors go to operating on them without the parents knowing, and the taxpayers will pay for it. That's what makes sense to you, you freaking nut jobs.
Joe Getty
You know, my final note, and I'll encapsulate this. We haven't even touched on their foreign and defense policies. Complete disarmament of the United States, ending all military aid to any allies withdrawing from NATO. We should harshly condemn Israel, but Normalize relationships with Cuba, Iran, Venezuela and other countries targeted for resisting US imperialism.
Jack Armstrong
So let's go big picture politics on this. And the same guy, Joe was quoting Bill Galston writes this because this is what's going to happen if I'm. If I'm a regular Democrat. I hate the idea the mom dummy is going to win. This is what Bill Galston writes, and he's correct. If he's elected mayor, as seems likely, he will become a leading voice in the Democratic Party and will shape public perceptions of the party's identity. You know how it was. Nancy Pelosi was the face of the Democratic Party for so long and she wasn't within 10 miles as this. As the face of San Francisco as this crazy as this guy is.
Joe Getty
Oh, no, she's Ronald Reagan.
Jack Armstrong
Terrified. Not even close. So regular Americans across the country are going to see the Democratic Party and see this guy's face. Democrats who endorse his candidacy are sending a message. There's room in the party for members of an organization many of whose policies the electric the electorate rejected wholeheartedly in 2024 and whose commitment to socialism is shared by only a minority of the American people. Socialism polls very poorly. Always has, thank God.
Joe Getty
Yeah. These people are radical communists in the United States, openly operating and perhaps winning one of the most critical elections in the most important city in America.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And worth mentioning. This is his. I got the nomination. I'm moderating part of his campaign.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
What he's doing now, wait till he's in office and he's won. Oh, my God. So crazy. Go ahead, give it a whirl. Knock yourself.
Joe Getty
I believe I'm watching this happen.
Jack Armstrong
I don't live in New York, so it ain't gonna work, I tell you that. We do have a new richest man in the world, which is kind of big news. The why is the biggest news, among other things to talk about. Stay here.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Former President Joe Biden has decided to.
Jack Armstrong
Build his presidential library in Delaware where.
Joe Getty
It will compete with Delaware's other biggest attraction, the border with Maryland.
Jack Armstrong
You know, that's a pretty decent joke from a lefty politician. The Joe Biden presidential library will not be well attended.
Joe Getty
Wow. The point.
Jack Armstrong
We were just talking about socialists socialist countries. This is breaking news. Cuba's electrical grid has collapsed leaving the entire island without power according to the state run power company. So there you go with that.
Joe Getty
Category for a hurricane recently hit Cuba and caused $100 million worth of improvements.
Jack Armstrong
I mentioned bone conductive headphones earlier that I'm a big fan of now. And in case you don't know what they are, they're. They're like they, they lean against the bone right behind your ear and that's how the sound is transferred. I'll just read this. They send sound vibrations through your bones directly to your inner ear. The eardrum isn't involved. So there are a number of advantages to that from a, you know, blast your eardrum with those little pod things that you, that I have been using your ears.
Joe Getty
Crazy. You can hear without your eardrums.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Your ears stay open so you can still hear traffic, conversations or other sounds around you. That's why runners and cyclists often like them. I like them at the gym. Yeah. I bought the Shocks brand, which is what the New York Times wire cutter people recommended is the best one out there. And it's awesome. I like it. So I'll never go back to the buds ever. So just throwing that out there in case you don't dig the butt.
Joe Getty
Wow. You know, yeah, that'd be great to actually be able to have conversations with people at the gym because I see friends regularly. Plus, you know, have your ears open for traffic or whatever if you're on the bike. I love that idea. It's weird. Well, I can't the idea of it.
Jack Armstrong
But pardon me, they can't fall out of the way.
Joe Getty
They're all built.
Jack Armstrong
They got a little strap around the back of your neck and then they lean up against the bones behind your ears and they can't fall out. You can shake your head, you can ride your bike, you can run, you can lift weights, you can do whatever. They're not going to fall out of your ears. That's what I like. You can. And they're so light you can't even tell you got them on. We got a text from somebody said, oh, I love them. You guys haven't been on these yet. He said, I leave them on all the time. I think in the future people will probably wear some device like this. He said, I forget them all the time. Ask TSA that. I've got them on. I wanted to mention this. Larry Ellison is now the world's richest man.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
He blew past Elon Musk yesterday because Larry Ellison's company, his tech company, Oracle, had a 101 massive surge, $101 billion surge in one day because of their stellar quarterly results all around their AI cloud stuff. And they've got a whole bunch of different AI stuff that's supposed to be great. It's way beyond me. But in the market went nuts over the results on this stuff. To me. Well, there's a couple of things here. But people, people with lots of money continue to believe there's money to be made in AI, obviously.
Joe Getty
Right. And they're the gold mine of all gold mines.
Jack Armstrong
They're not dumb people. These people who are spending billions and billions and billions of dollars and then often making significantly more billions of dollars if it pans out. So, boy, keep an eye on this. Apparently he and Elon are really good friends and they both are big believers in AI and. And kind of share each other's views of AI. So that. That's cool. It's not a rivalry, really.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Plenty of really, really smart people have been wrong in the past about various bubbles, but I certainly don't know that they are here. I just enjoyed. I kind of peep behind the scenes. As Jack was discussing AI cloud services, I nodded like, oh yes, AI cloud services. Those most be very, very helpful.
Jack Armstrong
I don't even.
Joe Getty
I don't know what that is. I heard of both of those things, but anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Right. That is pretty funny. So Kamala Harris's book, which.
Joe Getty
Oh, speaking of really, really smart people.
Jack Armstrong
I came out like months ago. We had excerpts. It's finally coming out or something. The Atlantic had a bunch of excerpts. Everybody's talking about them. We will talk about them too. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
So Kamala Harris's Nobody's ever gonna read it book is coming out eventually, I assume. I thought it came out months ago. Remember we had excerpts a while back. How many, how many launches does she had? Any who? The Atlantic has chunks of it and people are reading it and talking about it. Here is cute little Ainsley on Fox reading from the Kamala Harris book.
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Many people want to spin up a narrative of some big conspiracy at the White House to hide Joe Biden's infirmity. Here's the truth as I Joe Biden was a smart guy with long experience and deep conviction, able to discharge the duties of President. At 81. Joe got tired. That's when his age showed in physical and verbal stumbles. I don't think it's any surprise that the debate debacle happened right after two back to back trips to Europe and a flight to the west coast for a Hollywood fundraiser. I don't believe it was incapacity. If I believed that, I would have said so. As loyal as I am to President Biden, I am more loyal to my country.
Jack Armstrong
You know what I find ridiculous? Well, first of all, she's in a position where she can't obviously say, oh yeah, I saw him like this all the time. So. So she's got to pretend she didn't see him that way. But that pushback that Hunter and others have used, he had done back to back trips and this and that and okay, part of that was a choice. One of the the trip that you're talking about, he had an official presidential duty trip, then he had to go to a fundraiser. Well, he didn't have to go to a fundraiser. He chose to go to a fundraiser in the of his schedule. So that was a decision he made. And you know what else could happen after a couple of trips and a bunch of other stuff, a major world event could occur where you've got to make a decision. And if you're too tired from the life you live as president, then maybe you shouldn't be president.
Joe Getty
Too tired to string sentences together. Yeah, yeah. Well, and plus, there was a week between all of that in the debate. So that's just. Again, it's just covering her ass.
Jack Armstrong
Here's some other stuff the New York Times picked out, and it's all pretty good. Former Vice President Kamala Harris said it was a mistake not to question Joe Biden's insistence on running for reelection last year despite his advanced age. In a new book, she writes that it was recklessness that led her and other Democrats to cede the choice to an individual's ego. You say that now during all those months of growing panic. Should have. I should high have told Joe to consider not running. Perhaps way to take a stand. But after all this time of thinking of it, you're still a, I don't know, person. That's just.
Joe Getty
She's come out with a strong. Perhaps for the record, maybe, but the.
Jack Armstrong
American people had chosen him before in the same matchup. Maybe he was right to believe that they would do so again. She described herself as being in the worst position to make the case that he should drop out. Obviously, if you're the vice president, you could be accused. Of course, you want the guy ahead of you to drop out so you can be president. At the time, she and others extended grace in allowing Joe and Jill, the first lady, to make the decision on their own. But now, she wrote she had come to believe it was a mistake not to speak up. In retrospect, I think it was recklessness. The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have been left to an individual's ego, an individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision.
Joe Getty
That's funny. That sounds a lot like what like 75% of America was saying at the time.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the problem. I mean, she has a number of problems with laying this out. I mean, like I said, she can't admit that she saw him in, you know, as a daughtering old man a lot or then she's a bad American. She also can't fully embrace the. Oh, much earlier, we should have all asked him to not run again because they would have had some sort of primary and you would have not been the nominee, guaranteed. Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi both, it's well known, wanted some sort of primary. Joe Biden kind of ruined it by immediately coming out and endorsing you, made it very difficult at that point, but nobody wanted you to be the candidate. And you know that.
Joe Getty
Right? Right. So once again, she is just covering her ass, which is the opposite of what she did with Willie Brown. Wait, what.
Jack Armstrong
What? Okay, we just did the debate part. She. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I wanted to get to this. Oh, this is great. Kamala Harris also wrote about feeling undermined by unspecified members of Mr. Biden's team, but didn't take aim at the former president. However, in recalling an 11 minute speech he made from the Oval Office, she wrote that her staff noted that she was mentioned only fleetingly in the eighth minute. She lamented that throughout her time in office, Mr. Biden's team didn't defend her against right wing attacks about her competence, including a drumbeat of conservative commentary about her laugh, nor pushback on media stories that she had that she said reported unfair and inaccurate accounts of my time as vice president.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Jack Armstrong
She accused the White House aides of helping fuel negative rumors.
Joe Getty
You know, it's funny you should mention the New York Times mentioning that speech thing. That was a segment of it that I wanted to read to you real quick. So she's talking about she'd been to Puerto Rico, blah, blah, blah. She witnessed the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. So. Oh, okay. So this is in Houston meeting with the emergency management staff and get a briefing on recovering recovery efforts after the devastation of Hurricane Barrel. That was the one that had the big storm surge and economic damage in the. In the billions. So she talks about. It was heartbreaking to see the loss, blah, blah, blah. It was impossible, inspiring to talk to the first responders who ran toward danger, sometimes helping strangers even as their own homes were at risk. Then there were the regular people who stepped up to help whichever way they could could. Collecting toiletries, making sandwiches, organizing clothing. Drives in my life, I've seen over and over again that it is the MO Is often the people with the least who give the most. She. As I shook hands and thanked the police and emergency workers one by one in each, I saw a hero, et cetera, et cetera. Then somebody shouted a question about the speech this evening. It was just after five and I waited for it. It was a good speech, but as my staff pointed out. Oh. Drawing on the history of the president, as my staff pointed out, it was almost 9 minutes into the 11 minute address before he mentioned me. I want to thank our great Vice president Kamala Harris. She is experienced, she's tough, she's capable. She's been an incredible partner to me, the leader for our country. And that was it. I'm a loyal person, but perhaps, was I too loyal? Uh, sweetheart, you just spent two paragraphs explaining that. What you did was shook hands with a bunch of cops and firefighters and Admired the local people and how generous they are.
Jack Armstrong
You didn't do jackass. And I want to be able to.
Joe Getty
Say the S word cuz it would be funnier and better.
Jack Armstrong
You didn't do what? What did you want the President to.
Joe Getty
Say about you and our brave vice president who shook 27 different hands today and said thank you for what you do bravely in the face of the damage?
Jack Armstrong
Well, first of all, this blaming others for her failure. I mean does she, if she does any place in the book, say she could have performed better? It hasn't been exposed yet. Everything is somebody else's fault, the media's fault, the Republicans fault, Biden's people's fault, all that sort of stuff. I mean she is so delusional about her failed campaign. Delusional. That's why I hope she runs. I feel like she just needs another slapping down. Before I didn't think. I thought she had been humbled enough, humiliated enough, but apparently she wasn't. She lost and thinks it's other people's fault. She did. She, she doesn't recognize that you never did a hard interview with a real news organization. You answered questions incredibly poorly a number of times. You know what's different between you and Joe Biden? I don't know. I mean when you'd had months to think about it, it's just embarrassing your performance and you just haven't recognized that yet. But I really like the. The Biden team did not defend me against right wing attacks on my competence. You know why? Because they thought you were incompetent too. Bingo. That's all. Well, that's all well known.
Joe Getty
They had a huge comms team. They had Karen Karine Jean Pierre briefing in the press room every day. But getting anything positive said about my work or any defense against the untrue attacks was almost impossible.
Jack Armstrong
What a whiny, bitchy book this sounds like it is. Has anybody ever written a political narrative like this? One of these memoirs where they are all blaming someone else like this usually because everybody seems to think she's is reporting that she's seriously considering running for President. That's why she decided not to run for governor. She's considering running for president. And instead of putting out a book that is all about, you know, looking forward and laying out her vision for the future and hoping like for a redo as a presidential candidate, it's all blaming all the people that held me back. I also like the quotes about I had a special pressure on me as the first female vice president. Yeah, what world do you live in where you think that exists? Come on. You, you know, course you. Identity politics, people, maybe you believe that nobody felt any differently about you because you're a woman vice president. You just sucked.
Joe Getty
Yeah, she, man, there's example after example of her blaming the president and his staff for not supporting her or just actively undermining her.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I'll tell you what's going to happen over the next 48 hours or weeks. There's going to be pushback from a lot of those people in the Biden White House who didn't like her to start with and really don't like her bad mouthing them. Yeah. You're going to hear leaks of things she did. Guaranteed by tomorrow there'll be some leak in some story about something that she. Michael uses his drinking hand potions. I don't know about that, but there's going to be some pushback from these people who don't like being called out in a book. And the Atlantic and the New York Times as being on the wrong side of this.
Joe Getty
So somebody's gonna leak sniping begin.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly.
Joe Getty
Backbiting commenced.
Jack Armstrong
She is. I thought she was a weak act before. She is really a weak act to put out this book. The media was against. The media was against you. Are you kidding me? Nobody has ever been more propped up, ever in the history of running for president by the media than you. And the media was against you. Give me a break. And the Biden team was disloyal to you. The only reason you were the nominee is because he pushed that forward. None of the other heavyweights in the party, Nancy and Barack and others, thought you should be the nominee at all.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
How do you not know that?
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, she says that was one of the corrosive narratives that the White House didn't push back on, that she was some sort of DEI hire. Because you were.
Jack Armstrong
Because you were. He promised he would hire a black woman to be his vice president, which is the definition of a DEI hire. You named the gender and the race before you even picked the person.
Joe Getty
Right. Wow, this is funny. This is everything I dreamed it would be.
Jack Armstrong
She might be. Remember the great Sid Rosen? We had Rosenberg. Rosen, Rosenberg, yeah, Rosenberg. Sid Rosenberg, big New York guy. We had him on our show at the, at the convention. And he said, she's stupid. Bingo.
Joe Getty
Well, that's the same thing my friends in high level law enforcement, California had told me, joe, she's a dope. I'd be like, oh, come on now. She's a liberal. And I know no Seriously. I've had meetings with her. She's a dope.
Jack Armstrong
Sid had it nailed from the beginning. She's stupid.
Joe Getty
And then at some point texted me and said, do you believe me now?
Jack Armstrong
Wow, that is something. Yeah, way to write a book and draw more attention to your problems. All right, we'll finish strong.
Joe Getty
Next Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
There were a couple of clues before I walked inside. Firstly, there was no balloon on the mailbox. And. And then my mom stops me in the driveway and she says, do you have a gun on you? No. It's not how I normally celebrate a birthday party. You know, I would like to hear that whole thing, Charlie, about how his.
Joe Getty
Family tricked him into an intervention and.
Jack Armstrong
Reminds me how good he was on Two and a Half Men, which is why he was the highest paid guy in all of television. He is hilarious.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, that is funny.
Jack Armstrong
First of all, there was no balloon on the mailbox. You gotta do that if you have a birthday party, right?
Joe Getty
Right. People might just drive by. Right.
Jack Armstrong
What was that from? Where was Charlie Sheen?
Joe Getty
Is that part of the documentary or an interview he did to promote it or whatever?
Jack Armstrong
Was he on Fallon or somebody? I would like to hear more of that. That sounds charming.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
A slightly serious note. People throw around the idea of being in a revolution all the time. Like it'd just be kind of fun.
Joe Getty
Or it makes them feel brave and scary to say it at the college campus.
Jack Armstrong
It's like my brother talked about. He got to be of a certain age to know this, but back in the old days, westerns were popular and it was common in a western TV show or a movie to have like a fight in a big bar room where Everybody's fighting. Like, everybody's smashing chairs on people and punching each other. Like the whole room erupts in a fight. And my brother actually was involved one of those in Germany. He was in this big. What do they call bars in Germany? They got a name for him.
Joe Getty
A beer hall.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, he was in a giant beer hall. And it turned into one of those everybody's fighting everybody things. And he said it was awesome for a while. He had chairs, he's smashing people and stuff like that. He said it was fun until somebody smashed me from behind in the head. That wasn't fun anymore, but what was I leading to? Oh, my idea that everybody thinks a revolution would be fun, but it doesn't always work out, you know the way you want it. And sometimes you end up to be the people that are chasing people are chasing you all of a sudden. I was watching some of the video from Nepal where they got a revolution going on right now. Burning down government buildings, burning down politicians homes. The cops are firing on him, but they're way outmanned and outnumbered by the revolutionaries. And of course, where this ends up, who knows?
Joe Getty
Young, unemployed people with no hope equals unrest, violence, craziness, and, you know, an elite that's been soaking the population. It's really an interesting story. Nobody knows anything about Nepal, including me.
Jack Armstrong
No, me neither.
Joe Getty
Having read up on what led to this.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I just thought it was interesting that I got kicked off by all these social media posts by the rich young people. The rich kids were bragging about their cars and their trips and their clothes and everything like that. And that was enough. We're poor and hungry and hate the government and think you're all corrupt. Screw you. That was the end of that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, and they are corrupt. Crazy. Crazy levels of corruption there. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, if you didn't hear yesterday's One More Thing podcast, we went big on Charlie Sheen, and it was pretty entertaining, though. You find that where you find. I don't know. I don't know how you find it. Don't ask me. I'm the wrong person to ask. Check your clock.
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Jack Armstrong
They've gotta go. And if they don't, you can. They'll be back tomorrow. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. Let's start with our technical director, Michelangelo Michael.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, we're talking about westerns and everybody fighting each other. That brought back a memory of the. My favorite memory in high school when I started a food fight in the cafeteria.
Jack Armstrong
Really?
Joe Getty
Accidentally, yes.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, accidentally.
Joe Getty
Somebody threw a grape at me. I threw something back at him and then another kid joined in and pretty soon the entire school was throwing food at each other.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
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Joe Getty
We. We all got detention, but no, nobody cared.
Jack Armstrong
I've never been involved in something like that. I feel like I've missed out. It's probably not gonna. Well, I suppose I could end up in an old folks home where this happened. We're all throwing jello at each other.
Joe Getty
Those grapes were kind of the Lexington and Concord of the lunchroom revolution. Katie Creen is off. Jack, do you have a final thought for us?
Jack Armstrong
I did and it flitted out of my head. That's what happens when you're old. That's wild. I was ready to talk and then it just disappeared from my noggin.
Joe Getty
Well, you're thinking about Lexington.
Jack Armstrong
Quickly. I can do it. Kamala Harris's book reminds me everybody should try hard to. To take good stock of your failures and figure out where you went wrong and not blame others for. For your failures. It's just a bad habit.
Joe Getty
My final thought is a little Kamala related too, because I'm continuing to read the excerpts in the Atlantic. And one thing that's notable is she absolutely equates having a meeting with doing important things right.
Jack Armstrong
Which is common. Yeah, a lot of people do.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, we had a meeting about that. Okay, great. Good for you.
Joe Getty
I led the meeting talking about that.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
Bravely and didn't get credit.
Jack Armstrong
That's why there's so many meetings. Too many people believe that. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up. Another grueling four hour workday.
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Jack Armstrong
God bless America.
Joe Getty
And when it's over, it is over. It is over.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. That's just complete, utter nonsense. So let's just dispense with that fundamental, foundationally nonsense that is the climax of foolishness. Figure it out or get off the podium, as the athletes would say. We've left it all in the field. When it comes on for you to go, you have to go.
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Joe Getty
I can't. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. So which one Did I say how many times was there Armstrong and Gettysburg?
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Episode: "How About Them Apples?" – September 10, 2025
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This episode dives into a blistering critique of current political trends in New York City, specifically the rise of Democratic Socialist Zoran Mumdani as a frontrunner for mayor, and the broader implications for the Democratic Party and American governance. Armstrong and Getty dissect the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) platform, analyze shifting voter demographics, and lampoon Kamala Harris's forthcoming memoir. The hosts maintain their signature irreverent, conversational tone, peppering the discussion with biting humor, disbelief, and exasperation. The episode also touches on current tech news, the latest billionaire rankings, and world events, before closing with reflections on Kamala Harris and a few lighter moments.
The episode is direct, unsparing, and heavily sarcastic, interspersed with gallows humor and the dry, incredulous wit common to Armstrong & Getty. The hosts frequently use rhetorical questions, blunt attributions of stupidity or naivete to political figures, and demonstrate a mistrust of ideologically extreme movements.
This Armstrong & Getty episode offers a critical, no-holds-barred takedown of the new Democratic Socialists' influence in NYC, the DSA's far-left agenda, and current political leadership, particularly Kamala Harris. With their trademark irreverence and sharp commentary, the hosts call out what they see as political delusion, historical amnesia, and a lack of personal accountability, all while entertaining sidebars on technology, wealth, and pop culture. For listeners seeking skeptical, satirical insight into American politics, delivered with both clarity and attitude, "How About Them Apples?" is quintessential A&G.