Huge, Huge Ridiculous Boobs!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Huge, Huge Ridiculous Boobs!"

Episode Date: April 1, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Main Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Special Guests/Quotations: Brooke Schaefer (News Nation), Katie (producer/contributor)

Episode Overview

This episode opens with sharp, sarcastic banter before moving into a rich discussion on the Supreme Court’s oral arguments concerning birthright citizenship and the meaning of the 14th Amendment—a topic of high political and legal consequence. The hosts then transition to a bizarre viral news item involving Kristi Noem’s husband and the concept of “bimbofication,” breaking down both the kink aspect and the media ecosystem. The episode finishes with a discussion of parental rights at medical appointments, poking at contemporary norms in medicine, state authority, and the erosion of family autonomy. Scattered throughout are the hosts’ classic quick-witted asides and complaints about modern bureaucracy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court & Birthright Citizenship Debate

(00:14 – 11:41)

• Context: Oral arguments at the Supreme Court regarding birthright citizenship, with Trump present as a historic first.
• History of the 14th Amendment:
  • Originally designed to grant citizenship to children of slaves, not, as Jack puts it, “Chinese billionaires” gaming the system.
  • Joe references the 1898 case of Wong Kim Ark as legal precedent but notes the ambiguity about children of non-citizens who aren't legal residents.
• Modern Debate:
  • The Trump administration aims to reinterpret the clause, excluding children of illegal or temporary migrants.
  • Jack highlights how many nations have abolished unconditional birthright citizenship, arguing it’s not solely a “Trump racist” notion.
• Legal Nuances:
  • The interpretation of “subject to the jurisdiction” is central. Legal scholars cited (Randy Barnett, Kurt Lash) say congressional intent was about full political allegiance, not merely subject to laws.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong:

    "It's either the right policy or not the right policy. The end, however many people it affects now or in the future is irrelevant." (01:56)

  • Joe Getty:

    "The era of wide open immigration had no welfare state." (07:21)

2. Media Framing & Legal “Originalism”

(10:40 – 12:12)

• Media Critique:
  • Hosts lampoon mainstream narratives framing Trump’s move as “incredibly unconstitutional.”
• Originalist Legal Reasoning:
  • Joe and Jack agree that laws written for one context are often disastrously shoehorned into new, unintended uses.
• Coin Flip Prediction:
  • Joe’s take: The Court’s decision is unpredictable—a “coin flip”—but any ruling will mark a sea change.
• Notable Quote:
  • Jack Armstrong:

    “It just seems insane to continue to use something meant for A and now it applies only to B. But we’re gonna keep it around ‘cause it was there originally.” (11:33)

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3. Kristi Noem’s Husband & “Bimbofication” Scandal

(14:02 – 18:18)

• Story Recap:
  • News breaks that Kristi Noem’s husband is embroiled in a bimbofication kink scandal, exchanging messages and explicit selfies with adult performers.
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Jack mocks how this didn’t hit mainstream coverage, quipping that “most of what makes the news is of no great significance.”
  • Recurring gags about memes featuring Marco Rubio, “Ice Barbie” Kristi Noem, and “giant, giant balloons” under shirts.
• Details:
  • Noem’s husband sent large sums to adult performers, traded selfies, desired “huge, huge, ridiculous boobs” (his quote, 17:03).
  • Unapologetic shares of identity—no hiding in messages.
• Notable Quotes & Humor:
  • Joe Getty:

    “He corresponded hundreds and hundreds of messages with adult performers with massively augmented breasts to achieve a Barbie-doll-like appearance. No, ‘Barbie doll-like’ doesn’t begin to describe it.” (16:41)

  • Jack Armstrong:

    “I feel like the tiny little pink shorts are more offensive than the giant bazumbas.” (17:22)

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4. Market Movements & Media Clickbait

(18:23 – 19:44)

• Commodity Fluctuations:
  • Jack plays a news clip about oil prices, ridiculing media overreactions to small, daily market shifts.
• Clickbait Culture:
  • Both gripe about political and financial content using day-to-day news for manipulation, with the quip “Everything is clickbait.”
• Notable Quote:
  • Joe Getty:

    “I gotta write the song. Everything is clickbait.” (19:37)

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5. Parental Rights & State Intrusion at the Doctor’s Office

(19:59 – 34:44)

• Situation:
  • Jack rails against being asked to leave the room during his son’s checkup so medical staff can speak with the child alone (a common policy in California).
• Arguments:
  • Both hosts see this as the state usurping parental authority, stemming from a worldview where the state distrusts the nuclear family.
  • Joe recalls a Marxist college professor who wanted the state to raise children, connecting it to today’s bureaucratic intrusions.
  • Katie (producer) chimes in, dreading being told to leave the room for her own child’s future appointments.
• Cultural Critique:
  • Jack: The policy “makes us all infants,” reliant on “the 23-year-old at the doctor’s office.”
  • Joe: The state acts as a higher authority, “justified in coming between you and your child.”
  • The crew discusses societal trust in institutions versus parental autonomy, with anecdotes of refusing or questioning these policies.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong:

    “The idea that I, as the parent of a kid… am asked to leave the room so that some other entity can come between me and that kid—because we’re making the assumption here that whatever conversation they’re going to have with my kid is at a higher plane than what I’m going to do.” (21:39)

  • Joe Getty:

    “The state should raise the child because that way you can indoctrinate them into becoming a good little Marxist or just, you know, automaton.” (23:26)

  • Jack Armstrong:

    “I know them intimately and love them on a level that the greatest poets couldn’t describe. But you, having just walked into the room, are gonna take control now?” (29:55)

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6. Listener Reactions & Medical Privacy Escalation

(31:08 – 34:44)

• Listener Feedback:
  • Texts from listeners confirm the practice is widespread across California, including prenatal visits.
• Hosts’ Response:
  • Much comic speculation about what happens if you refuse (“haul me off in cuffs if you want”) and roleplay of ludicrous answers to intake questionnaires (“six guns, barrel of anthrax in the garage…”).
• Cultural Frustration:
  • Both express disbelief society has collectively acquiesced to these protocols without protest.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Katie:

    “Check on my baby, not my marriage. I’m fine.” (33:22)

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7. Wholesome Segment: Remembering Sugar the Surfing Dog

(34:44 – 36:20)

• Story:
  • The passing of Sugar, a 16-year-old surfing therapy dog, is briefly eulogized—celebrating dogs’ special place in human lives as therapy animals and companions.
• Notable Moment:
  • Jack:

    “Winning championships in 2024… paw prints joined the hand and footprints of many other renowned surfers immortalized at the Surfing Hall of Fame. That’s sweet.” (36:08)

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

| Speaker | Quote | Timestamp | |-------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Jack Armstrong | “It’s either the right policy or not the right policy. The end, however many people it affects…” | 01:56 | | Joe Getty | “The era of wide open immigration had no welfare state.” | 07:21 | | Jack Armstrong | “It just seems insane to continue to use something meant for A and now it applies only to B…” | 11:33 | | Joe Getty | “He corresponded hundreds and hundreds of messages with adult performers…” | 16:41 | | Jack Armstrong | “I feel like the tiny little pink shorts are more offensive than the giant bazumbas.” | 17:22 | | Joe Getty | “I gotta write the song. Everything is clickbait.” | 19:37 | | Jack Armstrong | “The idea that I, as the parent… am asked to leave the room so that some other entity can…” | 21:39 | | Joe Getty | “The state should raise the child because that way you can indoctrinate them…” | 23:26 | | Jack Armstrong | “I know them intimately and love them on a level that the greatest poets couldn’t describe…” | 29:55 | | Katie | “Check on my baby, not my marriage. I’m fine.” | 33:22 |

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Memorable Moments

• Satirical meme walkthrough: “Marco Rubio finding out he’s now Kristi Noem’s husband … in pink spandex looking at a giant bra.” (15:07)
• Jack’s comedy on medical forms and gun questions: “Next time they ask you about the guns in the home, say yes. 6. I mean, they’re not in the home. They’re on my person right now.” (30:22)
• Wholesome tribute to Sugar the surfing dog breaks the episode’s edginess with genuine affection. (34:44)

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Conclusion

Flow & Tone:
Armstrong & Getty sustain their hallmark mix of irreverence, snark, social criticism, and occasional sincerity. The show effortlessly moves from weighty legal debate to lurid tabloid weirdness, ending on the deeply personal issue of trust and the authority of the state over family. Classic, brisk, and highly opinionated, this episode is a definitive example of their style—cutting through complexity while never shying from tangents or comic relief.

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Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human

[Joe Getty]

broadcasting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. And I'm going. You're going to go to the Supreme Court. Think so. I do believe in there because I have listened to this argument for so long. And this is not about Chinese billionaires or billionaires from other countries who all of a sudden have 75 children or 59 children in one case or 10 children becoming American citizens. This was about slaves talking about the birthright citizenship Supreme Court case. The oral arguments are today. And Trump has a ribbon if he is there. You fancy I'm looking at the cable news channels. Yeah, he's there at the Supreme Court, first time ever a sitting president has gone to take in the oral arguments.

[Joe Getty]

What the president was talking about in the. And that is interesting. We'll talk about but about it. But what he was talking about in that clip we played was the 14th amendment. It was not about Chinese billionaires popping out surrogate kids to have US Citizens, probably as a spy army. It was about the children of slaves when the 14th Amendment was passed. More on that in a moment. There's Brooke Schaefer from News Nation explaining that not everybody agrees with the potus.

[Brooke Schaefer]

This order, though, it has faced a lot of criticism, particularly among Democrats and immigration advocates. They warn that if upheld, it could impact millions of immigrants already living here and hundreds of thousands born each year. This order.

[Jack Armstrong]

So what's that got to do with anything?

[Brooke Schaefer]

Repeatedly blocked by lower courts across the country, Some legal experts believe the Supreme Court will do the same.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't understand the way the left works. Looks at the world. That will affect a whole bunch of people. Yeah, so what? It's either the, it's either the right policy or not the right policy. The end, however many people it affects now or in the future is irrelevant. It's either right or wrong.

[Joe Getty]

I think you've quite skillfully highlighted one of the main features of leftist thinking. It's not about principle, it's about outcome. Anyway, so here's what we're arguing about, essentially, and the administration and its lawyers agree that, yeah, we're asking for a change in the interpretation from the way it's gone. But the, the reasoning behind the way it's been interpreted for a long time is very, very thin to it. The 14th amendment was ratified right after the Civil War. Well, ratified in 1868. It begins, quote, all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. The question is, does this language confer US Citizenship on babies? Who, parents, whose parents are in the country illegally or very temporarily? And that was traditional understanding is yes. Trump says no, but that was to

[Jack Armstrong]

make sure that, you know, in the most racist states like Alabama or Mississippi, hey, those people are citizens whether you like it or not. They are. And they get all their children.

[Joe Getty]

But that just because their slave parents weren't, quote, unquote citizens doesn't mean the kids ain't. That's the whole reason for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm, I'm shooting from the hip here. I've not read deeply on this, but if the intention was that, and you're an originalist, I would think you'd go back to their original thinking and think, okay, everybody who could conceivably be the child of a slave was gone by, I don't know, whatever year 1920. I mean, unless you live to be 150. So it no longer applies, period.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you've gotten way ahead of me, but you're 100% right. Yeah. So the constitutional provision has come before the Supreme Court before. In a case called Wong Kim Ark in 1898, the justices recognized, recognize the citizenship of a man born to Chinese parents in San Francisco. The majority said, and I quote, the 14th Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory. All children here born of resident aliens. Now, the few exceptions, and this is where it gets interesting, because they absolutely recognized that there are exceptions. They included children of foreign diplomats. Because you are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, you have diplomatic immunity, enemies during hostile occupations. You can't have Pancho Villa and his boys invade the US Have a bunch of kids and say they're US Citizens. And particularly Native American tribal nations which were considered self governing, their children are not automatic US Citizens under that, you know, at that time. But the Trump administration is arguing that the court has not answered the question, the current question, not directly. Congress did not pass the first modern immigration law until 1875. So for much of our history, migrants could freely enter the United States and take up permanent residence. The government points out, and Wong Kim Ark concerned children of aliens with a lawful domicile in the United States, not children of temporarily present aliens or illegal aliens. A concept that was practically unknown until, you know, closer to the modern era. So the crux of the dispute is what does it mean to be subject to U.S. jurisdiction? The opponents of the Trump administration say this simply refers to people who are under the government's authority, including illegal aliens. If you, if you murder somebody as an illegal alien, well, not in Chicago or, or la, or New York, but. But you get arrested and tried and, and punished. So clearly you're under the jurisdiction of the United States government. But people on our side of it argue that birthright citizenship covers only people completely subject to US Political jurisdiction, meaning those who owe direct and immediate allegiance to the nation may claim its protection. Its rating excludes babies born to temporary visa holders, as well as illegal migrants who lack the legal capacity to form a lawful domicile, not to mention birth tourists, for goodness sakes.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there are 33 countries, according to Claude, that grant unconditional birthright citizenship, many of them in the Americas. But these go way back for a variety of reasons that they did that. People have been getting rid of this over recent decades. I didn't know this. Notable examples of countries that ended unrestricted birthright citizenship in recent decades include the uk, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India. In Ireland, for instance, they ended it in 2004 with 80% of voters backing a constitutional amendment. In the modern world, for all the modern reasons, you don't want to do this. So you're not some sort of Trump racist. And you think, unless you think all the Irish are racist or Great Britain or whatever, you don't have to be some sort of Trump racist to want to end birthright citizenship. It's a stupid to me, a stupid way to run your country.

[Joe Getty]

I would agree. Yeah. If. Especially if you're not here lawfully and especially cuckoo nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Especially if you have a welfare state the way modern countries do and you allow chain migration.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The era of wide open immigration had no welfare state.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. So you either came here, you would

[Joe Getty]

work harder, you'd starve.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Either came here and made your way or you went back home or you starved to death. Those were your options.

[Joe Getty]

Or leaned on your family, who would soon tell you, go back to the old country, you suck. I want to quote Randy Barnett, who's the director of the Georgetown center for the Constitution, co author of a book entitled the Original meaning of the 14th its letter and Spirit, which is pretty authoritative. His piece is entitled Trump is Right on birthright citizenship. The 14th amendment authors would exclude illegal and visiting aliens from US quote, unquote jurisdiction. And he agrees the dispute is over the meaning of the subject of jurisdiction. That phrase. In each of the categories, he mentions children of diplomats, soldiers from an invading army, American Indians maintaining tribal relations. In each of these categories, the status of the child depended on the status of the parent, and then he gets into the temporary or unlawfully thing. Before Trump's executive order, what originalist scholarship existed on the original meaning of subject to the jurisdiction? That key phrase was sporadic and lightly tested, if at all. This past year has produced an explosion of originalist scholarship on both sides. This is where Jack presciently got a couple of minutes ago. The justices are now in a good position to decide which side has presented the stronger originalist case. Kurt Lash, University of Richmond has examined the congressional debates over the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights act of 1866. By the way, the 14th Amendment was like to constitutionalize the Civil Rights act of 1866. It was to say, hey, this is not a law that can come and go. This is permanent, please. And that act declared what we said already about not subject to any foreign power, blah, blah, blah, the 14th amendment. Oh, I already said that. But the drafters of the 14th Amendment saw a need for constitutional language that more clearly excluded the children of tribal Indians. Lyman Trumbull of Illinois managed the citizenship clause in the upper chamber in the Senate, explained that subject, subject to the jurisdiction meant not owing allegiance to anyone else, whether to a tribe or foreign power. This is the guy who managed that clause in the 14th Amendment. John Bingham, congressman from Ohio, the moving force behind the 14th amendment. He's a Republican, of course, used the same framework, referring after ratification to persons born in the US Quote, and not owing allegiance to any foreign power. These statements and others Mr. Lash identified demonstrated how leading Republicans explained the concept. The text was meant to capture birth plus full political membership. And I could go more into detail on some of the precedents that have come and gone, but they only scratched the surface of the key question. This is an old interpretation of the 14th amendment based on virtually no serious thought. Again, it was like drive by interpretations that addressed a specific question at a specific point in history, but did not take on the bigger question. It's practically been unexamined.

[Jack Armstrong]

So what do you think's gonna happen if you watch? I don't know about mainstream media, but certainly lefty leaning media, which is mainstream media. They're presenting it as just an incredibly unconstitutional overreach by Trump too. It's very clear in the Constitution what is supposed to happen.

[Joe Getty]

That's not true at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you think is going to occur? And we're not going to find out till June. By the way, the arguments are today and Trump is there to listen to him, but they probably won't release their decision until June.

[Joe Getty]

Well, Jack is going to cuss me for this folks, but I think it's something close to a coin flip really. I don't know. It would definitely be a sea change in the interpretation of the 14th Amendment and to my mind a completely appropriate one. It's a great case of.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, I mean I'm not a lawyer and you know, I can't look at this through the lens of the way you argue this in the Supreme Court. But just on the face of it, at the surface level, it just seems so insane to continue to use something meant for A and now it applies only to B. But we're gonna keep it around cause it was there originally. What?

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Well, it's a perfect example, as I started to say, of how sometimes the Constitution, the amendments are a bit vague because the people who whether frame the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, et cetera, or came along later like the 14th Amendment, the world they existed in was very, very different in terms of immigration, population, that sort of thing than the that exists today. And so their wording was absolutely adequate to the situation of the time. But now the situation's changed so completely. You've got to dig, and this is what the MSNBCs of the world are not doing. You've got to dig behind the vague wording and look at the reasoning behind it. Be an originalist. What did they mean? What were they trying to get to? And you answer that question and if then you decide, well, that's wholly inadequate to the modern world, well that's when Congress steps up and you clarify it or you amend the amendment or whatever, which you can absolutely do. We need to do this though, right now. A word from our friends at Simplisafe Home Security. This is such a great deal, such a great system. I think we've all, a lot of us have had like old timey security systems with all the wires and stuff and they didn't work right. And they were incredibly expensive and you had to sign a three year contract. SimpliSafe is not none of those things. IT's super advanced AI technology. Live monitoring agents. No locked in contracts.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The giant headline on the front of the New York Post. What a boob. We all learned a word yesterday. Bimbofication is a kink and Kristi Gnome's husband has it apparently. That and other stories on the way Armstrong and Getty. I don't know if I saw any news coverage yesterday of the Christy Gnomes husband bimbofication story. Apparently we still have some decorum and standards where we just don't get into stuff like that on the serious shows because I didn't, I didn't see it anywhere. Did you?

[Joe Getty]

I don't think it's of any great significance other than being interesting from sexual kink perspectives.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's lots of stuff that makes the news of no great significance. Like most of it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my gosh. Yeah, almost all of it. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I just was surprised nobody did it. So apparently the meme is going around the Marco Rubio finding out meme that has been going for quite some time. Marco Rubio finding out he's now the quarterback of the, you know, the Green Bay Packers.

[Joe Getty]

The New York Jets. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm sitting on the couch in his uniform. We're not finding out he's the new Shaw of Iran. Marco Rubio finding out he's now Christy Noem's husband. But it's a picture of him in pink spandex looking at a giant bra. Confused.

[Joe Getty]

I've seen a couple of different versions of that. Yeah, bimbofication.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Christy Gnome who was the Department of Homeland Security secretary up until a couple of weeks ago.

[Joe Getty]

Ice Barbie.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there are all the rumors which seem to be pretty fact based that she was having an affair with Corey Lewandowski which was Trump's original campaign manager that got him elected way back in 2016. Any who. And then you had the weird thing of Kristi Noem being grilled by Congress and her husband sitting right behind her as Congress asked her about the affair.

[Joe Getty]

Mel she, he had left at that point to catch a plane to probably a bimbofication conference. More on that. Stay with us.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's why we know anything about Kristi Noem's husband really is that he was sitting behind her at that grilling. Just awkward all the way around. Anyway, story breaks yesterday, and whether or not Kristi Noem knew about it herself, I'm still skeptical. She's claiming the family had no idea. They were completely blindsided when all these pictures came out of him dressed in really tight tops with giant, giant balloons or something under his shirt to look like enormous boobs. And his tiny little shorts. And it's some sort of kink called bimbofication, which I don't know that I'd ever heard of.

[Joe Getty]

And he corresponded hundreds and hundreds of messages with adult performers with massively augmented breasts to achieve a Barbie dial like appearance. No, it's Barbie dial like, it doesn't begin to describe it.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. And he didn't try to hide who he was at all.

[Joe Getty]

And these proclaimed he coveted huge, huge, ridiculous boobs. That's a quote.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was willing to share these pictures with his face well lit and very clear who he was with all kinds of random people who are into bimbofication.

[Joe Getty]

Jack. His face is fully visible in several of the photos. One with a completely straight visage and others making a flirtatious kissy face with pursed lips. Back to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel like the tiny little pink shorts are more offensive than the giant bazumbas

[Joe Getty]

guy. Successful insurance executive. He sent some of these performers over $25,000 via Cash App and PayPal as tips as they would, you know, do whatever he bid or engage in, whatever conversation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ian Christie. Been married for 34 years, like high school sweetheart sort of couple.

[Joe Getty]

He traded selfies with one woman he pledged to worship like a goddess, telling her, quote, you turned me into a girl before asking if he should put on leggings.

[Jack Armstrong]

But he's. He's straight, as far as we can tell.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

It doesn't matter. Really.

[Katie]

A straight guy thing to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those little pink shorts don't seem very straight, but I don't. I might not fully understand bimbofication if

[Joe Getty]

you know Texas, Armstrong and Getty.

[Brooke Schaefer]

Finally, some potential good news here for oil markets, for stock markets, and really for the American consumer that's been hit by this impact to oil, you know, trickling down to prices at the pump. We've actually seen over the last 24 hours, oil futures move as low as 4%, just around $100 a barrel. Oil just falling under that threshold. We are starting to head in the right direction. There's More. More optimism that this could be a sustained pullback for the oil markets, as the president, of course, has signaled that the end of this conflict could be near within the next couple of weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, I just wanted to play that to make the point. This determining on a 24 hour by 24 hour period whether policies are good or bad based on tiny movements in various commodities is nuts.

[Joe Getty]

I was gonna ask, is that nice lady familiar with roller coasters and how they work? Why did we today we went up, look ahead, just ahead. See that twisty thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

Both sides do it though, all the time and quit. Quit making your argument for anything based on one day of movements in markets.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta write the song. Everything is clickbait.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's very, very complex. There's all kinds of reasons things can go up and down for one day.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah. People who want good news for reasons political or financial will click like crazy on those headlines. Those who despise Trump and are convinced this war is a better idea will click like fiends on anything that's negative.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I want to mention this. I tweeted this out yesterday afternoon and it's kind of interested to see what the responses would be. Got quite a few responses, partially because I've lived in California so for so long now that I don't know what the rest of America does and how much has changed along with California or is different California? Anyway, this is what I tweeted out. I had to take my son to the doctor for his physical. He was due for his TDAP also booster, which used to be, for me anyway, just all about the tetanus. And then, you know, that other stuff that they throw in there. Well, since I had the pee in the TDAP whooping cough last year, man, you don't want to get whooping cough. But anyway, he had to get that shot and just a regular physical. Uh, and I tweeted out, I don't think anything makes me angrier at the doctor's office than being asked to step out of the room so they can talk to my kid alone. And some of the responses I thought were interesting from people who said, move here. They don't make us do that here. Wtf.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I even. And it does. It makes me insanely angry and I try to control my boiling rage. I don't know how good a job I did it. I made it clear to the nice young woman who is a assistant of some sort who asked me to leave the room how angry it makes me. And I made it clear that it's not your fault. I realize you don't make the policy. I'm just registering how outrageous I think this is. And I do think it's outrageous. And then. Well, first of all, do you have any concept of how. How common it is around the country for this? Is this the sort of thing they do mostly in California and, you know, Taxachusetts and not in Oklahoma and Nebraska, or. I don't actually know.

[Joe Getty]

I don't. I would like to dig into that. It's an interesting question.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know it didn't happen when I was a kid. And the physician's assistant, she said, you know, I actually understand. I'm not sure if I had a kid, I would like that either. But the idea that I said, is it the. Does the government make you do this? Is it the hospital? And she said, it's kind of both. And the idea that I, as the parent of a kid, who have sole responsibility for everything in that kid's life, I'm actually. Well, that's what they're trying to get to. I'm asked to leave the room so that some other entity can come between me and that kid. Because we're making the assumption here that whatever conversation they're going to have with my kid is at a higher plane than what I'm going to do. That it is the authority. It's the. Let us check in to see if we think what's going on in this household is right or wrong. Because we. We know what's right or wrong. He might not.

[Joe Getty]

We're just checking in important clarification, not as a backstop if something's gone terribly long wrong like abuse or neglect. No, but as an ongoing higher authority for that child's life and well being.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. You're making the statement that we, the state, or we, this institution, at the behest of the state, know what's best. We're just checking to make sure you're following our rules. And what indication do you have that their rules have been very good throughout history?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I will tell you this. And this is the bedrock of all of it. I've told this story in various forms many times, but I encountered a professor in college who was a Marxist, and I was at that point completely unfamiliar with some of the sociological aspects of Marxist thinking. And her point was that the nuclear family is an organization, an institution of oppression, and that the state should raise children. She actually espoused this in class. And I'm sitting there like, wait, what? And that was my introduction to that Marxist belief. That the state should raise the child because that way you can indoctrinate them into becoming a good little Marxist or just, you know, automaton or what have you. And it's right there in the it takes a village philosophy. And it's absolutely. The unholy bloom of that weed right now is, hey, yeah, I'd be happy to call you Jenny, Johnny. And let's not tell mom and dad. They don't need to know because they're probably going to abuse you or whatever. The teachers radicalizing the children and getting between the parent and the child, it's all the same thing. And yes, it's leeched its way into medicine. Some of our medical schools, like UCLA Medical School, it's one of the most woke institutions in America. It's horrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some of the questions they asked, too. How did this become part of a physical? Why are you asking about all this stuff for a physical?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

My kids both know that we don't answer the gun question. None of your effing business. Why are you freaking asking me if I've got a gun in my house?

[Joe Getty]

At the doctor's office, That's a big yes. They say, filling out.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding, right? What? And so I Is interesting. A lot of the responses on Twitter to that were that with people saying, I don't. I just say no. Which, I left the room because I don't want to embarrass my kid. I mean, if it's me, I'm willing to get into all kinds of an uproar. I don't care if they have to bring in guards because they're worried I'm about to twist off. I'm perfectly fine with bringing that upon myself.

[Joe Getty]

Please videotape it. Please.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I don't put my kid in an awkward position. And we talked about it later, and he said, I'm fine with you doing that. So from now on, I'm just gonna say no. Just no. I'm not leaving the room. Anything you got to ask me, you can ask in front of me. Of course. In the. So I bring this up to some people, and they look at me like, why would that be a problem? What sort of crazy. What are you hiding? What awful thing are you doing to your child that you want to hide that you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Do you not understand? They're declaring that they know what's best and you don't. That's the statement they're making.

[Joe Getty]

And there's a presumption that they. They are justified in coming between you and Your child and saying, all right, what's. What's the deal with him? What's going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah, I remember it. This one was tough, and it blindsided me.

[Joe Getty]

And, you know, Katie's trying to stay calm. Oh, go ahead, Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Katie]

I'm just thinking, you know, I've got a kid on the way, and I. I would blow a gasket where that were to happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you're gonna be dealing with it really soon, probably, because the first time it hit me was when Sam was born, and I was asked to leave the room so they can talk to mom without me there. Like what?

[Katie]

Well, see, that's when I'm gonna demand. No, Drew is staying. You can talk to both of us. Well, I don't.

[Joe Getty]

This is bizarre.

[Jack Armstrong]

Feel free. They can't. I don't know what they do if you say that, but they probably just

[Joe Getty]

make a note on a form.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I. It's. It's an unholy confluence, I think, of what I was describing, and, like, insurance companies and liability and maybe greater awareness of certain issues. Like every time I register to go to my usual. Let's try not to have a stroke appointment with my doctor, I've got to fill out the. The pre. Thing. Preform. Which includes. Do you ever feel like life is pointless and you take no joy in the things you do? And I. I want to fill in only when I'm filling out this form.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Katie]

Actually, you know what? I've had to fill out two of those a week for the last month, and I'm gonna have to do it again today. I will be writing that only when you guys ask me this question over and over again.

[Joe Getty]

I appreciate the greater awareness of mental illness issues, but is there anybody who's so completely unaware of depression and what it is and where you might get help that they'll fill out that form and the doctor will say, say, Jim, it sounds like depression to me. And they'll be like, what, Doc?

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact that I'm hopeless all the

[Joe Getty]

time and take no joy in anything, and that will be the pipeline. That will be the connection that saves them. It just strikes me as. I don't know. Dopey?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

There are so many people out there, though, that actually think they do know best and they will follow right along. Oh, they think that the authorities know best. Absolutely. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. What's your.

[Joe Getty]

Too many days.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's your indication of that, Covid?

[Joe Getty]

I. I hate to bring it up, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I'm talking to people who believe that the government's view or an institution's view of how to raise your kids is better than yours. What's your data that led you to that?

[Joe Getty]

Excuse me, Jack, while I interview this sheep and ask it why it runs with the herd. That's just the nature of that sort of beast.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I live in a state where it's certainly on the table for somebody to say to your kid behind closed doors, do you ever feel like a girl or a boy?

[Joe Getty]

Except. Except the activists are much more insidious. They'll say, do you ever feel like, you know, being a tough guy is not who you really are?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Joe Getty]

They'll find some universal like that and then shove that wedge in. That's what they do. I've seen it happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel like the questions were at least half like social science as a. As opposed to all medical stuff like blood pressure, weight, you know, all those sorts of things that you do it a physical, get the right vaccinations.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just, I don't know. The modern world is not for me. Oh, that makes me insanely angry, though. I mean, just like I can't hardly control myself. Angry.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Because you understand the greater symbolism of it and, and the. The intent behind it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And as a full time single parent, the responsibility I have of raising kids and how much work it is. And now you've just stepped in to say we're really the ones in charge here. Oh. Oh. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I know them intimately and love them on a level that the greatest, greatest poets couldn't even describe. But you, having just walked into the room, are gonna take control now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? That's exactly it. You put it better than me. That's exactly the feeling. I'm here all week, all day today, for instance, doing nothing but trying to make sure his life is okay. And now you're going to put me out of the room because you're the wheel? Yeah. You're gonna take the wheel.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Next time they ask you about the guns in the home, say yes. 6. I mean, they're not in the home. They're on my person right now. Take all six of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

One in my left sock. One in the back of my pants, I guess. Two here, one here in my groin. Gotta be careful with that one. Am I wrong?

[Joe Getty]

Then, of course, both of my holsters on either hip. And then the one tucked in my back in case, you know, things get really hairy.

[Jack Armstrong]

One on each side like your Yosemite Sam.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and I've got one of those Drop down machetes too. Do you need to know about that? It's in my sleeve here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, boy, got a barrel of anthrax in the garage.

[Joe Getty]

I'm just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let me go through the work. Any thoughts on any of this? Being asked to leave the room. Text line 415295 KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Man skied across an asphalt parking lot at 69 miles an hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not intentionally.

[Joe Getty]

He'd just been clipped by Tiger woods suv.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we got to get to Tiger woods statement yesterday, which I found bad news for Tiger actually. So I was just talking about how angry it makes me when they say at the doctor's office I'm there for my kids physical. Can you step out of the room now? We need to talk to him alone. And I just. I can't restate what I just said. If you missed it, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand. But what's the message it sends to the kids? This 22 year old woman is the authority, not your parent, right? Oh my God, I hate everything about that. I'm never doing it again. I'm never doing again. You haul me off in cuffs if you want to. I will never leave the room again. And I'm just gonna see what happened. We got this text. Katie, you'll like this. Since you were with child, Jack and Joe, I just had a kid. In the state of California. If you go to a baby checkup as the husband when she is pregnant, they will tell you in the lobby that they have to talk to her first before you're allowed to come into the baby checkup, the prenatal baby checkup. They bring her back there and ask her if everything is okay in the home life. Then the nurse comes out and grabs you in the lobby. When in the hell did we decide this was okay?

[Joe Getty]

That the intrusion into the coherence of the family, the cohesion of the family is justified by the interests of the state and protecting women or something. When did the trade off is worth it?

[Jack Armstrong]

We are sheeple that we allowed it to even get going. That we all just decided it. That the first time it ever happened, we all just thought, well I suppose I'd better because they asked me to, but it's freaking outrageous. Anyway, I'll let you react, Kate. Well, okay.

[Katie]

And so what if you say no? What do they.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know actually. And I suppose I doubt they can say, well then you can't have a baby here. I doubt they do that because I

[Katie]

mean that's got to Be some kind of protocol that they're following.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. But I mean we are.

[Jack Armstrong]

She and I are grown ups, adult citizens of this country. We willingly decided to get married and have a kid together. All you need to know, right? Your job as a medical professional is to facilitate. Facilitate this birth in the healthiest way possible.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Check on my baby, not my marriage. I'm fine.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you know there's I. I always hark. Harp on the, the Marxist thing, the, the post modernist way. Lefties. But there's a lot of paternalism and nanny statism among the. The left and center left too that they just think the government is here to solve all problems and they don't. They don't see it as a trade off. They see it as an unmitigated good.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no.

[Joe Getty]

All the husband has to do is leave the room for like a minute or two. We make sure the wife's not being abused or the. The girlfriend or the partner or whatever and then the man comes in. What's. There's no cost there other than just don't see the world the way we do.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know you're not making that argument for yourself, but there's no cost other than an infantel. Makes us all infants in that completely. We need to be taken care of by again the 23 year old at the doctor's office because we're not as adults capable of, you know, handling our own lives.

[Katie]

Right. And here they come to the rescue.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that 23 year old is an agent of the. The state. Literally they. And I realize, bureaucrat, to whom you must answer.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'll say it again because I know this will get back. It always does. I realize you're doing your job. You're just doing your job. You're doing what you were told to do. You're making your living. Not a problem with you. It's the policy. Not you. Yeah, right here.

[Joe Getty]

Here. As most of you may have heard by now, Judy and I lost our buddy Baxter the dog this last week. Baxie, taxi. Codependent boyfriend. Mr. Underfoot. He went by many names. There's been another loss in the world of dogs. This Sugar the surfing dog. The first canine inducted into the Surfers hall of Fame. You may have seen surfer Sugar, the surfing dog who hung out at Huntington Beach, California and was a very, very famous surfing dog. 16 year old rescue dog from Huntington Beach. 5 time dog, surfing world champion, passed away when Sugar was not surfing. She was a. What. What's the proper term? A counseling dog. A comfort dog for veterans this is a dog hall of famer sugar the dog and just reminds us it's funny how much good will a dog brings in a room hospital with kids or whatever man are canine companions they have a special special role she was 1616

[Jack Armstrong]

wow she's like a kind of a

[Katie]

lab ish that's pretty old for that

[Joe Getty]

kind of a dog A therapy dog was the term I was looking for yes 16 year old lab mix I

[Jack Armstrong]

believe and how recently was the dog surfing

[Joe Getty]

Till toward the end I think

[Jack Armstrong]

she had like the equivalent of like an 85 year old human out there

[Joe Getty]

surfing that's pretty impressive winning championships in 2024 her paw prints joined the hand and footprints of many other renowned surfers immortalized at the surfing hall of Fame that's sweet that's awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah we do a lot of stuff been wide ranging if you ever miss anything want to catch it get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand subscribe

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty it.