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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
Live from Studio C. Senor.
Jack Armstrong
We have a camel in the studio today because it's Wednesday. It's hump day. We're almost done. We signed a one year deal with having a camel in here as a promotion on Wednesdays. Thank you. And this is the last week of it. Thank God. In 26 we won't have the camel in the studio, which I don't like.
Joe Getty
It seemed like a good idea. It's one of.
Jack Armstrong
It's a classic example of seemed like a good idea at the time. Right. How y' all doing? It is the last live week of the Armstrong and Getty show, and we today are under the tutelage of our general manager. Foreigners. Foreigners. Foreigners. Dang. Foreigners are foreign ways.
Joe Getty
Ah.
Jack Armstrong
What are they up to now?
Joe Getty
There's a big new travel ban. Trump just announced. A bunch of countries just don't even bother applying. You can't come in.
Jack Armstrong
Is that to keep out? Let's keep out what?
Joe Getty
Bad people. In general. Furners.
Jack Armstrong
People that aren't white.
Joe Getty
Oh, Lord. That's right. It's a Muslim travel ban. Let's see. Citizens of Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, South Sudan and Syria are joining the list of countries whose citizens are already nearly banned from immigrating.
Jack Armstrong
I'll tell you what, at least half of that list, you give me a comfortable pair of shoes and a compass and I can't find them. I don't know where they are.
Joe Getty
Palestinians are banned. Laos, Sierra Leone. In addition, 15 countries will face new partial bans. Angola, Antigua and Barbuda. Antigua, okay, but Barbuda? Come on.
Jack Armstrong
Tell you who doesn't like a Barbudan.
Joe Getty
You got an Antiguan at dinner. Count your silverware, Ben. And Ivory Coast, Dominica, Gabon, the Gambia, Malawi, Mauritania. Near as I could Keep going. It's a bunch of African countries mostly.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know where these places are.
Joe Getty
Yeah, Africa.
Jack Armstrong
It's funny, I was just reading out about a place that I've never heard of. That's what I've been doing the last five minutes or so because I just heard this story. Came across it. Bhutan. It's actually a landlocked, tiny little country in the Himalayas, which I'd never.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, that's. That's been a big story because of the tariffs.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, really? Anyway, they're building a mindfulness city. The world's first mindfulness city. Built all around that concept, which I don't think I fully understand. Well, how would you define mindfulness based.
Joe Getty
On you're not mindful of mindfulness? Clearly, I'm not being aware of what you're doing.
Jack Armstrong
I had a book about it, but I had an Antiguan over for dinner and I Think he stole it as they will.
Joe Getty
Bastards. I think it's being aware of what you are doing and doing it intentionally as opposed to just being a creature of patterns and habits and, you know, just reacting. I don't.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I know it's something that alcoholics are not good at, which could get us back into one of the headlines yesterday. Trump's alcoholic personality and what the hell that means and doesn't it? The mainstream media has no knowledge of that whatsoever, clearly. But yeah, I'm not good at mindfulness neither many people in my tribe. Maybe I should move to this town. Bhutan.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I want to hear a good definition of mindfulness, if somebody can dig that up.
Jack Armstrong
So they're trying to design this mindfulness city where architects are going to blend innovation with Bhutan's gnh. That's their Gross National Happiness principles. Now that's gotta be a translation problem, right?
Joe Getty
The word gross here or a bad play on words. Gross National Product.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, maybe that's it. Okay, that makes more sense. Gross National Happiness. Okay. They're just trying to measure the whole country's happiness. There you go. Okay.
Joe Getty
If you're more mindful, you'd have gotten that joke. It's not a good one, but I.
Jack Armstrong
Have an alcoholic personality. I'm not sure how that relates, but the. So I'll have to read more about their Gross National Happiness principles. What they are. They're probably things like turn that frown upside down, why don't you smile more? Stuff like that. Turn lemonades into lemon. Or the other. I guess it's the other way around.
Joe Getty
You can turn lemonade into lemons. You got a trick going.
Jack Armstrong
You do. You could form a religion. They. They're building inhabitable bridges, spiritual centers, economic friendly infrastructure. I don't know, but that makes me happier.
Joe Getty
An inhabitable bridge.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. No idea. I know, I know.
Joe Getty
California's got those generally under the bridge.
Jack Armstrong
That's what I first thought. I thought like. So bridge is designed that people can live under them if they need to. I wonder if that's what they actually mean. Anyway, I like the idea of a mindfulness city. How's your mindfulness coming today, Jim? Pretty good. How about you, Jack?
Joe Getty
Oh, off the charts. Yeah, they were. They were a controversial story early in the tariff discussion. And it's probably worth reminding everybody. Remember, the Supreme Court might just flush the whole thing, the tariff thing, at.
Jack Armstrong
Any moment at some point.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. But anyway, so Bhutan is this landlocked, mountainous little kingdom, republic, whatever it is, and they have like no economy except for exporting. I Can't remember what it is. Rugs or blankets or something to the United States. And we slapped them with these punitive tariffs. Even though, you know, we've got a trade imbalance, because they've been taking advantage of us because they've got like a hundred bucks between them, the entire country. So how are you not gonna have a trade imbalance? It was ridiculous.
Jack Armstrong
What'd you come up with? Mindfulness there, Katie. This is a perfect thing. Heading into the, you know, the holiday season, the Christmas season, like that, maybe a lot of people going to have some free time, be off work. I need to know about mindfulness, Katie.
Katie Green
All right. A mindfulness, a mental state achieved by focusing one's awareness on the present moment while calmly acknowledging and accepting one's feelings, thoughts, bodily sensations being used as a therapeutic technique.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'll accept my bodily sensations all day long.
Katie Green
I knew that was going to bring that.
Joe Getty
I know. He never fails to disappoint, Katie. I know.
Jack Armstrong
That's kind of interesting. So I don't know how far I want to go down this road or not, as I'm an alcoholic. I know lots of alcoholics. And so the story that broke yesterday of Trump's chief of staff saying he's got an alcoholic personality misinterpreted by absolutely everyone, that doesn't make sense. He doesn't drink. And that's because people just don't understand what most alcoholics feel like alcoholism is all about. And she, Susie Wilde's the person who said that to whatever author she was talking to. She's aware of that sort of language because her dad was a sober alcoholic. Pat Summerall, the famous football announcer who worked with John Madden all those years, he'd been sober for like 30 years when he died. So I'm sure she was aware of the. The language of sober alcoholics. And that's, you know, understanding that there are traits that go along with being an alcoholic that have nothing to do with drinking whatsoever. So it's, you know, it, it didn't. The number of news conversations I heard yesterday, it doesn't make sense because he doesn't drink. Is he drinking? Is she suggesting that he drinks at night or just. No, it's got nothing to do. But anyway, the reason I bring that in, talking about mindfulness, I'd say one of the main traits, and I think this is fascinating, it'd be interesting if they could ever, like, figure this out with brain waves or something like that, is alcoholics inability to live in today, which is, you know, the opposite of mindfulness. You're either thinking about yesterday, usually a grievance, or tomorrow, dreaming about tomorrow, never today. It's just like. It's a processing disorder, practically almost impossible to think about today. I can dwell on yesterday, I can fantasize about tomorrow, but I can't think about today. It's just almost, you know, whatever it is. And I could see that that's why Trump fires off stuff in the middle of the night, because he's dwelling on the past all the time.
Joe Getty
I. Two thoughts. Number one, I'm reminded of the words of the philosopher and teenage girl toucher, Stephen Perry. Steven. Steven Tyler of Arrows.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, easy. You can't say that and then just get the names wrong.
Joe Getty
I just. Well, I corrected it. I combined the singer and guitar player. They're old. They don't care. Sing with me. Sing for today. Never tomorrow, the good lord will take it away. Anyway, and the second thought is what you were saying about the alcoholic personality and not being about alcohol is, I think, totally unknown outside of the alcoholic and counseling communities. I've never heard in my whole life anybody express any awareness of that. And I was only dimly, dimly aware of it myself, having worked with you for these many years. And I still don't quite understand it. So I think I wish that what Susie Wiles said instead of just being the usual Washington pissing match might lead to a discussion. It's an expression. It's not an actual contest.
Jack Armstrong
Is there a league?
Joe Getty
No, no. Let it go unsaid.
Jack Armstrong
Which channel has that? I don't want that channel.
Joe Getty
Oh, boy. ESPN 11, maybe. It could be a discussion of that. I find it so interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Is it volume or distance?
Joe Getty
Depends on the event. You got your sprint, you got your distance. You got your steeple chase. Now that's one to watch.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, we got to start the show officially. We have gone far afield. Maybe we can get back into that field later because it's an interesting field. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday, December 17, year 2025. We're Armstrong and Gideon. We approve this program.
Joe Getty
Sorry, Gabon, no visiting. All right, let's begin the show officially. Now, according to FCC rules and regs. Here we go at mark.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, it's Gary Busey and I have got a great Christmas present for you. Listen to this. That's what a goose sounds like when they're flying. They let you know they're up there. You get a bunch of geese together. All right, this is hawking in the air. This is our all time wtf Opening.
Joe Getty
Clip in the acid in my coffee.
Jack Armstrong
So that was actually the actor Gary Busey.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Oscar nominee to actor.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. Brilliant, Brilliant artist.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. Yeah. And last time he was in the news, he was sitting on a park bench working. His man, wasn't he? Was his pants around his ankles.
Joe Getty
I don't.
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Joe Getty
Is that right?
Jack Armstrong
I think so.
Joe Getty
Or it was Stephen Perry. It was something untoward, but that was. It was a lovely rendition of what geese sounded like.
Jack Armstrong
But here's a Christmas present for you. That's the odd transition. Wow.
Katie Green
His entire social media is quite entertaining.
Jack Armstrong
My Christmas present is an old crazy man doing goose sounds. That's my Christmas present to you.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. And I didn't get you anything. You can take that gift back.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Can I return that for something else? Pair of socks or something?
Joe Getty
That was weirdly disorienting, wasn't it?
Jack Armstrong
So his Twitter feed is full of stuff like that, Katie.
Katie Green
Oh, yeah, yeah. He's always shooting videos that just.
Jack Armstrong
Well, okay. Now I kind of admire. It's like you're into the I don't care about anything portion of your life. You know, you've done your thing. Now I'm just gonna let my freak flag fly.
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, he's like the dolly of social media. So he's into surrealistic art now. Or he's just a fruit loop.
Jack Armstrong
Could be just a nut job. Ok, we got Katie's headlines on the way and lots of stuff to talk about today. And also we'll get an update on where we are in raising money for scouting this week. Hoping to raise $100,000 and see where we are. Lots coming up. Stay here.
Joe Getty
Listen to this. Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Shh.
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Jack Armstrong
Michael opposite of you. I have done literally zero Christmas shopping with the caveat of I did get something big for my son whose birthday's two days before Christmas. That counts as both. I did buy that, but I've really done no Christmas shopping and I need to get on that.
Katie Green
You keep saying that.
Jack Armstrong
Keep saying what?
Katie Green
That you haven't started.
Jack Armstrong
I know.
Katie Green
It's like, it's not like you've forgotten.
Jack Armstrong
No, I don't. I ain't got a lot of free time.
Joe Getty
Maybe you have to get online stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Because maybe this weekend. Yeah, I know. Then you do get into that bind, the whole trying to pay extra for expedited shipping thing.
Joe Getty
Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Katie Green.
Katie Green
Katie well, the lead is the Rob Reiner story. First ABC video shows moments leading up to Nick Reiner's arrest after parents deaths. NBC Nick Reiner charged with murder in death of parents Death penalty is possible and TMZ Rob Reiner's daughter found his body but didn't initially realize her mom had also been murdered.
Jack Armstrong
So the death penalty thing would be interesting if it was a state where we actually kill People, the death penalty in California means you're going to die of old age. But it'd be much more expensive for the taxpayer. That's one of the reasons I'm against the death penalty in California. But that'd be something if they executed Rob Reiner's son. But ain't gonna happen in California. He is so. At the Conan o' Brien Christmas party he was walking around asking people crazy questions and everybody was like really weirded out because he was clearly nutso angry. God, that'd be an uncomfortable situation to be in. Right. One of your guests, kids who you know is troubled is walking around the party being super weird.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, There's a picture of them recently, the whole family in Las Vegas and everybody smiling, having a great time. And he is just glowering at the camera. He usually is in recent patient and I, I read a. Maybe I'll share some of it with you later. But a surprisingly sympathetic piece about so called Nepo babies and how so many people of like fame and wealth in entertainment in particular end up miserable, miserably unhappy. Not all of them, but do you think that's being born the son of some big star is like a launching pad toward happiness and you're wrong.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I also think it'd be really, really hard to raise a normal kid if you were a big star.
Joe Getty
That'd be tough. Yeah. Yep.
Katie Green
CBS Employers added 64,000 jobs in November, but unemployment rate jumps to the highest in four years.
Jack Armstrong
Michael Keaton, at the height of his fame, guy who played Batman and everything like that, moved to Montana or Wyoming to raise his kid. It just like got out of everything because of this. Just the idea of trying to raise in Hollywood with the paparazzi around and the fancy restaurants and all the things that aren't normal.
Joe Getty
What a beautiful thing to do.
Katie Green
From the Free Beacon Chinese investment firm funded by Yale and Princeton buys slice of Shanghai tech company that works with China's military.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Between all of the Chinese communist spies on our campuses and the unholy alliances between those colleges and universities and the Chinese, we have a fifth column right now in the US and it's, it's big and it's super well established and connected. Nobody seems to care. It's insane.
Katie Green
For the New York Post, last US pennies ever minted fetch whopping $16.7 million at auction.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow. From the Wall Street Journal, somebody who is that? Somebody who think that's a good investment or somebody just thinks it'd be really cool to have the last penny. I almost think it's got to be. You think it's going to be worth something someday? Because it's not that cool to have the last penny.
Joe Getty
I'm just thinking about other currencies that have been discontinued, and I don't remember hearing about a big auction at the last penny, Buffalo nickel or whatever.
Jack Armstrong
I'm over at your house and you say, hey, I've got the last penny every minute. You want to see it? I'd say, no. Listen, which would it be impolite to say? No, I don't care.
Joe Getty
Well, if you said you paid, you know, 10,000 bucks, I'd think, wow, okay, cool. But millions and millions of dollars seems insane.
Jack Armstrong
If you said you paid 10,000 bucks, I think you're an idiot.
Katie Green
And finally, from the Babylon Bee, California family still waiting for permit to build gingerbread house.
Jack Armstrong
Hey. Commentary on red tape and around the fires. And then. Well, it's a long story.
Joe Getty
Rampant corruption. Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Are we gonna go to war with Venezuela over Christmas break?
Joe Getty
Ah, there could be some shooting, certainly. We're blockading them.
Jack Armstrong
An actual blockade. Wow. Got a lot of stories to update you on. If you miss it, get the podcast. Armstrong and Gettysburg.
Joe Getty
Shh.
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I thought he was just petting her for a second. I had to rewatch it a couple of times because it is hard to see. It's dark. Annie doesn't carry her very nicely. I see her little tail and I'm.
Jack Armstrong
Like, oh my God.
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Jack Armstrong
So that's the story of an Amazon driver who took somebody's cat. That what happened?
Joe Getty
Cat rustlers.
Jack Armstrong
So you deliver a package, you think, well, that's a particularly good looking cat. All cats are more or less the same.
Joe Getty
I don't know, you gotta, you gotta hang cat rustlers.
Jack Armstrong
There's a lot of cats around. You don't need to steal that person's cat. You're a nut. Wow. I think Amazon throws a pretty wide net when it comes to drivers this time of year.
Joe Getty
Yes, Michael, that's a charitable way to put it. They've identified the driver, but for some.
Jack Armstrong
Reason they can't find him.
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Jack Armstrong
I think if you can fog a mirror, you probably qualify to drive for Amazon. That would be my guess, yes. Oh, boy. So I've talked a lot about how great being a Boy Scout has been for my son. It's maybe literally the best thing that has happened in his life. And it is for a lot of kids. And I've witnessed to myself and then at the very beginning of scouting, and it's what got me started on thinking of raising money for the Scouts so we could get involved, is talking to one of the dads there and one of the dads saying, yeah, a lot of it's too bad a lot of families just can't afford to get their kid into scouting because it is going to be several hundred dollars to join, variety of fees and stuff like that. So what we're trying to do is raise money so that you can bypass that fee. You got a kid that wants to be in scouting, boy or girl, but it's mostly boys. I mean, just in my experience that we can pick up the tab on the join in the scouts so that you can do that. And like last night I was observing some of the last of the meeting. They meet weekly and they were celebrating Henry's birthday because his birthday is next week. And he brought some treats and treats and they all sang happy birthday and they did flag ceremony and blah blah blah. Just all the stuff. It's so freaking awesome. And just for me, just seeing a whole bunch of. In this case it's all young men saying the pledge of allegiance and salute in the flag. Jesus. It fills me with a warmth I can't imagine because it's just so not what you see in the year 2025.
Joe Getty
Learning self reliance, taking the initiative, becoming men to help them learn how to become men. Which is like taboo in a lot of our perverse society. So yeah, I love it. I love the influence.
Jack Armstrong
I went to a really big like award ceremony they had for top level people that are involved in the organization. Anyway, I was at this big ballroom, like one of those sorts of things. People dressed up, drinks, meal, that whole thing. But I went and they had all kinds of scouts manning the doors and these little kids in some cases. Hello sir. Welcome. Is there anything I can get you with the drinks are over there. And just to look you in the eye, shake your hand. I'm not used to that sort of thing out of modern kids. And seeing it coming out of scouting I just think is awesome. And I don't want anybody to not be able to have their kid join scouts because what it costs to join. And that's why we're trying to raise money and go to armstrongandgetti.com we made it super easy to donate. We're shooting for a hundred thousand dollars. I don't want to go negative here. Trying to. I'm trying to say this as a, as a, a reason to motivate people. We had a pretty slow 24 hours. Let's do a total. Gladys, roll the, roll the drums here.
Joe Getty
I'll point out while she's getting her drumsticks that it's often the kids who can't afford scouting that the effects would be immeas putting them on the right path.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely. I'm sure that is true that the trend lines on that match up pretty good.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So we got off the air yesterday at about 50 grand. That was our goal yesterday. And we are currently at $62,543 now. That is a ton of money. That's great. That is, it's lovely. S ton of Money, as a lot of people say. How did that phrase get.
Joe Getty
They don't say that sort of thing in scouting, by the way, you wouldn't be welcome with your potty mouth.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know who started that phrase. It's a. Is that metric or. Anyway, that's a lot of money. But we're, we're shooting for a hundred thousand dollars and we're almost done with the week. So please go to armstrongandgetti.com and donate if it's 10 bucks, 20 bucks if every. We're on all over the country. If Everybody kicked in $10, obviously we'd get there easily.
Joe Getty
So help a lot of young kids.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you could jump on that. Would appreciate it. Armstrongandgetty.com so here's some interesting news.
Joe Getty
The President of the United States. Who's the guy from the Apprentice. Anyway, he on Tuesday ordered a total and complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela in what is described as a major escalation of his pressure campaign against the country's leader, kleptomaniac Nicolas Maduro.
Jack Armstrong
So it's just the oil tankers. It's not a full on blockade. Like nothing can come or go, correct?
Joe Getty
Yeah, just the sanctioned oil tankers, said Trump on Truth Social. Which is again, a bit of an odd way to make presidential proclamations. Venezuela was an asshat.
Jack Armstrong
Is that what he said?
Joe Getty
Oh boy, that was. Yikes. Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America. Trump said, helpfully using a Spanish term for the giant assemblage of ships.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, I didn't, I didn't pick up on that. That's pretty good.
Joe Getty
To help Maduro understand what's going on.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, exactly.
Joe Getty
He threatened the US military presence would, quote, only get bigger and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before. Unless Maduro's regime, regime returned, quote oil, land and other assets that they previously stole from us. An apparent reference to Venezuela's nationalization of U. S. Linked holdings in the country.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, that was. Yeah, I had to ask that question. When he said they got to give back our oil in our land, I thought in what sense is it our oil? And I really wondered, and what, how did, how did Venezuela end up with some of our land? I didn't understand that at all.
Joe Getty
Half of Phoenix. Yeah, it's a scandal. It's amazing.
Jack Armstrong
Venezuela took half of Phoenix. How did I miss that?
Joe Getty
It says they're occupying it.
Jack Armstrong
Seems like it'd be a big news story.
Joe Getty
No celebrities involved so no. So, yeah, it has to do with nationalizing oil. Interestingly, Chevron, which has been a presence in Venezuela for I think over 100 years, is excluded from any sort of blockading or sanctioning or anything like that. And they're sailing in and out of Venezuelan points ports with oil, as they have for many moons. They have an agreement with the US and it's kind of a carve out, which is interesting because it's obviously revenue for the Venezuelans. It's a complicated relationship. I started to read about it and thought there's no way I can accurately communicate this to the good people. But just suffice it to say, it's.
Jack Armstrong
Complicated and we'll see. He keeps hinting that there will be land strikes. I don't know why that hits people as an escalation because blasting a boat in the water is not much different than hitting somebody walking down a dirt road.
Joe Getty
Yeah. There's something about, on our land, our country, our dirt, that's especially offensive to human beings. For some reason. If we're out there on the water, we don't like it, but just don't blow up our dirt.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I haven't got even a slightly educated guess as to where this is going, so I guess we'll sit back and watch.
Joe Getty
Is there anything Maduro can promise, concede to Trump without leaving power that will ratchet this down?
Jack Armstrong
Well, who was I watching the other day? As somebody I really like saying, this is obviously a regime change. Regime change, policy.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
For whatever reason, they don't want to say it out loud. Or maybe just because it's got such a nasty hangover from a couple of regime changes that haven't exactly gone our way. And lots of them don't. Because once you change regimes, you have no idea what's going to replace it. And it's often not something better. Sometimes it's something worse or just as bad.
Joe Getty
In fact, frequently power vacuums reward the most vicious, not the most auspicious. I'm rapping a little bit.
Jack Armstrong
Part of it is.
Joe Getty
You get rid.
Jack Armstrong
Of whoever's in charge and you have a lot of disorder. And when you have a lot of disorder, thank God I've never lived through US in Americans. We haven't had to. But you have a lot of disorder. People welcome anybody, I don't care. Isis, fine, come in. If you can stop the crime in the streets and get somebody to pick up the garbage, fine. And that's how Hamas or ISIS or whoever, the Ba'ath party in Iraq, they, they get over because people want order and at some point you're willing to put up with pretty much anything for order.
Joe Getty
One of the most interesting things I've heard read in the last couple of years has been the British commentators comedian. I guess I just think of him as a thinker, honestly. Konstantin Kissen, who is talking about the history of Russia and how it differs so starkly from the history of the United States. And I talked about this when I first read it, but that in the last few hundred years of Russian history there have been strong leaders, then periods of unrest, and during those periods of unrest, the slaughter has been unimaginable. And then a strong leader will come in and bring order and stop the killing. Now that strong leader might do a fair amount of killing too. But so the Russian people, their whole history yearns for a strong leader to just quash the conflict. And anyway, I'm sorry, how did we get into that conversation? I remember we were talking about Venezuela.
Jack Armstrong
How regime change can often lead to something worse.
Joe Getty
So yeah, yeah, a lack of stability is one of the worst things you can have. And you know who doesn't appreciate that or never thinks about it? A country that's been extremely stable for a very long time and you have your college kids in the streets screaming for revolution because they're friggin morons.
Jack Armstrong
But what do you think's our main reason for wanting a regime change in Venezuela? I mean, that is not an issue that President Trump ran on or anybody talked about ever. We were at the Republican convention. Don't remember it coming up a lot.
Joe Getty
No, I suspect it has something to do with the, the quasi. Well, the, the whole. We want to control our neighborhood.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
The quasi. Monroe Doctrine.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It's big picture like okay, China, you're going to run that part of the world. We're going to run this part of the world. Yeah.
Joe Getty
And a feeling like, all right, we've got this incredibly beautiful, ought to be incredibly rich country right across the Gulf of America and they'd be a great ally and all, but they got this tin horn jackass dictator running the place, doing nobody any good. And why are we putting up with that? What's the point of power if we permit that right in our backyard? I think that's the thinking.
Jack Armstrong
Trump's given a primetime Live speech tonight. I have no idea how many networks are planning to take it. I. Fox is taking. But I don't know if like abc, cbs, NBC are. Can you look into that, Katie, see if the big networks are taking Trump's speech tonight?
Joe Getty
Because we have a theme.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the theme is supposed to be, we're back, baby. The economy is roaring. It's the same theme he's taken on the road to his rallies across the country, and I'm not sure if I'm a network president. I consider that news. It seems like more of a campaign speech, but we'll see if they take it. And I just wondered if he would touch on Venezuela, that that'd be a good way to get the networks to take your speech, is if you promised some information to the American people on what the hell we're doing in Venezuela and why, because we haven't had a lot of that.
Joe Getty
But the other thing, we do have a hell of a force. I'm sorry, I was just reading about it.
Jack Armstrong
It's.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's. It's impressive and lethal.
Jack Armstrong
It is absolutely incredible. You know anything about this, Katie?
Katie Green
Yeah, it looks like all the major networks are yet.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so they see it as newsworthy. I'm kind of surprised. I thought. I thought some of your networks would say we're not going to let him do a campaign speech on our channel, but there. So cool.
Joe Getty
You want to hear what they're thinking? It's not charitable.
Jack Armstrong
Better ratings.
Joe Getty
They're. They're thinking, A, it'll get a lot of attention, and B, Trump always unspools plenty of rope to hang himself with.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, they think it'll do more harm.
Joe Getty
Than for our commentators to criticize the crap out of them for the next three days.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I don't know.
Joe Getty
I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if I think you're right about that, because they often don't take Trump stuff. And. And I've. And I've thought for years that I think if I'm running msnbc, I put Trump on all the time for my audience. Anyway, speaking of Venezuela, remember we. We hit that boat and there are a couple of scumbags left in the water ready to attack the United States again. And so we blasted them real good. Make sure they were dead. That video is not going to be released. The Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, announced there's too much national security at stake, so we will not see the second video. Which to me means that he feels like this particular little scandal has died down enough that he could make that announcement and isn't even. Nobody's really even talking about it. And on we go with our lives, and nobody will ever think about it again.
Joe Getty
Or my cynical, cynical friend, he might be thinking, no, this would threaten our national security.
Jack Armstrong
I don't believe that. Just don't believe it.
Joe Getty
Changed my mind about it.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, really? Did somebody smart explain that to you?
Joe Getty
I know. I figured it out for myself, okay? I don't know. I read all day long. Something may have penetrated my conscience.
Jack Armstrong
What could be our national secrets and seeing yet? I mean, because how many videos have we seen of boats being blasted? What would be different about this one?
Joe Getty
I will open your eyes. I will bring eyesight to the blind. Next hour when we talk about this.
Jack Armstrong
Okay? Fantastic. All right, we got mailbag on the way. Lots of other stuff to talk about. Hey, Donate to the scouting Go to armstrongandgetty.com Armstrong and Getty. Shh.
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Pressure is coming down.
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Jack Armstrong
We got a $25 donation from Thistle Be Awesome. Appreciate that. That's the name of my Someday Thistle Museum. As I pay tribute to the humble Thistle. I feel like it deserves a museum. And the name of it is going to be Thistle Be Awesome.
Joe Getty
Fantastic. You know what? I don't have a freedom loving quote of the day. You know, hang on. Watch this. Watch what I do here. Our freedom loving quote of the day is going to be an email.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
Mailbag.
Jack Armstrong
Devastating.
Joe Getty
Combining the two. It's like when the stars of Happy Days would be on Vernon Shirley. Just like that. Promotion.
Jack Armstrong
It is just like that. All right.
Joe Getty
Here's your freedom loving email of the day. Sleepless in Danville. Call him Al Anonymous. Rights Jack Joe. I am an Eagle Scout. Went back as a volunteer for years to repay the many gifts scouting gave me. I wanted to share a bit of inspiration with you that still drives me. Today on a trip to Northern Tier a Scout camp canoeing in the Boundary Water Wilderness between Minnesota and Canada, we had a scout with us who was, let's say, used to living comfortably. Day two. Some of the other boys wanted to go 10 miles that day.
Jack Armstrong
No way.
Joe Getty
No way we can go that far, the boy said. And we didn't. Day 8 We were out there, pretty deep into Canada. We had two days to get back to camp. Well, what if we pushed it to this lake out here? The boy said. It was the same boy. It was 26 miles. We'll be able to see more before we get back. When I asked him what changed, he said, Mr. Anonymous, I'm never gonna say I can't do something ever again.
Jack Armstrong
Whoo. I have heard a dozen stories exactly like that since my kid has been around Scouting.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow, wow.
Jack Armstrong
I know.
Joe Getty
Armstrongygetti.com donate now. Help more kids experience that and become Americans.
Jack Armstrong
The number one lesson, though, and it's something we know we just, we don't value it enough, is people, not just kids. But since we're talking about kids, kids rise to, you know, the challenge you give them. If you make everything soft and easy and you don't have to do that if you don't want to or if it's triggering or it's too hard or whatever, then nobody accomplishes anything. But if you. If you really challenge them, for whatever reason the human spirit is, I'm going to see if I can do it.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
That reminds me. Let's talk about gentle parenting later. But Armstrong and getty.com give whatever you can, even if it's a little thank you so much for that note, Al. Mailbag, drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongetty.com Excellent reminder from M. Who just wrote following up on our discussion just a couple of minutes ago, Venezuela, guys, is about China and preventing China from establishing a stronghold in the Western hemisphere. Other than that, inside US Campuses. Yeah, excellent point, my lad. Or dear. Or the neither, perhaps you're asexual. Anyway, it's a great point. Yeah, yeah. The Maduro regime is playing footsie with China. Following up on our discussion of Amazon drivers, John writes, guys had a far from nice car full of packages.
Jack Armstrong
In.
Joe Getty
The backseat with an Amazon vested driver pull up in San Diego's north country sporting Mexican plates.
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Joe Getty
So, like, suspect Mexican nationals are now delivering Amazon packages in San Diego, California.
Jack Armstrong
Johnny.
Joe Getty
Okay, all right, let's see. How about this? Oh, that's a really politically incorrect joke. I may have to run this one by Jack and decide if we can even. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good tease for hour two.
Joe Getty
Boy and Marianne from Eagle, Idaho, longtime listener blasting Trump's Rob Reiner truth. Out of line, disrespectful, unkind for a grieving family. He only needed to give his condolences, period. He brags about being a Christian, but hate speech proves otherwise. There is no support for what he said about Rob Reiner. None.
Jack Armstrong
If you like that scouting story and want to donate, go to armstrongandgetty.com More to come Armstrong and Getty. Shh.
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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Date: December 17, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty, with Katie Green
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
This episode blends the Armstrong & Getty brand of irreverent news commentary with a few heartfelt moments, a dash of current events, and their ongoing fundraising campaign for scouting. The main themes include political travel bans, the concept of “mindfulness” (as sparked by Bhutan’s new project), “alcoholic personalities,” regime change rhetoric around Venezuela, the Rob Reiner family tragedy, and the value of scouting—a recurring subject this week. Throughout, the hosts deliver their signature mix of satire, skepticism, and sincere asides.
New US Travel Ban:
Joe and Jack discuss the latest travel ban announced by Trump, affecting predominantly African and Middle Eastern countries (e.g., Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, South Sudan, Syria).
Jack’s Geography Confession:
The hosts mock their lack of world geography knowledge while listing banned countries, lampooning American ignorance.
Mindfulness City Concept:
Jack introduces the Bhutanese plan to construct a “mindfulness city” built around their "Gross National Happiness" principles.
Mindfulness Defined:
Katie provides a definition:
Alcoholics and Mindfulness:
Jack connects mindfulness (or lack thereof) to “alcoholic personality,” referencing media confusion over Trump being called “an alcoholic personality” despite being a non-drinker.
This episode covers a wide swath of topics in the Armstrong & Getty style: news satire, earnest appeals for good causes, and offbeat moments (like Gary Busey’s honking). Recurring motifs include playful self-deprecation, skepticism towards political narratives, and heartfelt advocacy for youth development. The discussion of mindfulness, “alcoholic personalities,” and regime change in Venezuela showcase the show’s ability to juxtapose mental health and global politics through their distinctive, sometimes irreverent lens.
If you want news and laughs mixed with a dose of old-fashioned civic boosterism, this is a strong episode to catch. And as always, they urge you to support their scouting fundraiser at armstrongandgetty.com.