I Believe That This...is Their King

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "I Believe That This...is Their King"

Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Michael, Joe, Katie
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode of the Armstrong & Getty Show, the team dives into a recent story causing outrage and disbelief: a Bay Area trans-identifying individual, Gabriel (aka Gabrielle) Durone, who went to extreme and disturbing lengths to simulate pregnancy and loss for validation and attention within online support groups for grieving mothers. The hosts dissect the psychological, social, and ethical implications of the story, using it as a lens to critique aspects of transgender activism, the moderation of sensitive online spaces, and broader cultural trends regarding gender, empathy, and the erosion of women-only environments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Disturbing Case of Gabriel/Gabrielle Durone

[02:57 – 09:18]

• Background & Actions
  • Gabriel, identifying as a transgender woman, faked a nine-month pregnancy, complete with simulated morning sickness and a prosthetic belly.
  • He planned and carried out a mock stillbirth, using a muscle contraction machine and inserting a plastic toy baby before "birthing" it.
  • The episode highlights the extent of the deception and the use of medical devices for non-medical, psychosexual purposes:

    "He also joined a support group for grieving mothers who had lost children, seeking, indeed demanding validation and support for his planned 'stillbirth.'" – Michael [04:04]

• Sympathy-Seeking & Munchausen Allegations
  • Katie points out the Munchausen syndrome angle, augmenting the analysis with emotional and psychological context.
  • Durone went as far as involving his family, including his 7-year-old child for "maternity photos" and attempting to induce lactation via medication.

    "He even roped his seven year old into taking quote unquote maternity pictures." – Michael [08:09] "Mr. Durone also convinced his doctors to provide him with drugs to induce lactation...and attempted to donate the chemical laced, sludgy, pumped out of his moobs to quote other mothers." – Michael [08:14]

• Community Fallout
  • Mothers in the group who objected to Durone’s presence were reportedly removed, prioritizing his feelings over women experiencing real loss.

    "Women who had actually lost children were kicked out so that this man could feel support in his game of let's pretend...real grief was considered less important than this man's sexual fantasy." – Michael [05:56]

  • The hosts express disbelief and anger at moderators for enabling the situation.

2. Impact on Children and Family Involvement

[09:18 – 10:39]

• Katie and Joe recount images of Durone’s child, detailing a progression from infancy through presentation as a young girl, raising alarms about parental rights and child welfare.

  "Fast forward one more year and that son, still very young...now looks like a little girl in a dress in a picture with dad who now identifies as a female." – Joe [10:13]

  • Katie declares this unequivocally as "child abuse."

    "That's. The state needs to step in. That is absolute 100 child abuse, without a doubt." – Katie [10:30]

3. Social & Cultural Critiques

[10:49 – 12:37]

• Suppression of Debate
  • Michael provides local context, highlighting the degree of online censorship, especially before Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter:

    "Anyone who talked about it on Facebook or Twitter or instantly shut down, slash banned. Because when these were posted, this was pre-Elon." – Michael [10:49]

• Women’s Spaces and Boundaries
  • The discussion addresses why many women, even in the face of such scenarios, hesitate to speak up:

    "I am still just stunned at the number of American women who will accept rape, whether in prisoner or wherever...all in the name of being a good person because they've been told allowing men with mental problems to trample all over them makes them a good person." – Michael [12:07]

4. Broader Political Implications & Satirical Commentary

[16:12 – 17:33]

• Briefly, the hosts touch on Democratic Party decisions regarding gender activism, referencing Rahm Emanuel and feminist identity politics, illustrating the growing schism within progressive circles.

  "Democratic Party's got a big decision to make whether to nominate someone who leans this direction or someone like Rahm Emanuel." – Katie [16:12]

• Michael reads a satirical cartoon summary to encapsulate the confusion and conflict between trans rights activists and older-school feminists (TERFs).

  "This is Ann. She is a left wing lesbian who has been involved in left wing politics for her entire adult life. This is Tom, a 50 year old taxi driver who has decided to blow up his marriage and family in order to live his fetish..." – Michael [16:45]

  • The group agrees the resulting hostility and death threats to dissenting feminists are real and telling.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the grotesqueness of the simulation:
  • "He bought a toy baby and shoved it up him. Yes. And then, quote, unquote, gave birth to it. Oh, yeah. Afterwards, he took two weeks off from work to, quote, unquote, grieve because the toy baby was, quote, stillborn." – Michael [05:34]
• On the perversion of women’s pain:
  • "There's no aspect of women's pain they will not twist into a prop for their sickening deviancy...Even the loss of a child in the womb is fair game to them." – Michael [08:42]
• On women being removed from support group:
  • "If I'm in a room with people and one of them is this guy with a plastic belly on who shoved up a doll up his ass to pretend he's pregnant, he's still less crazy than that person over there who kicked out the women who complained." – Katie [06:14]
• Describing bureaucratic cowardice:
  • "He should have been thrown out immediately at least. Yeah, yeah." – Michael [12:31]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:50 – 09:18]: Breakdown of the Durone story, fake pregnancy, and fallout in grieving mothers’ group
• [09:18 – 10:39]: Child involvement and family impact
• [10:49 – 12:37]: Local censorship, cultural observations on women's spaces, and social compliance
• [16:12 – 17:33]: Political ramifications and feminist-trans activist schisms

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Tone & Style

The hosts maintain a tone that is equal parts incredulity, anger, dark humor, and cultural criticism, using conversational banter to explore difficult ethical and social subjects. Their language is blunt, unsparing, and sometimes graphic, reflecting their opinions on the abuses they perceive.

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Summary

This episode showcases Armstrong & Getty’s trademark blend of satire, outrage, and social commentary focused on extreme cases at the intersection of transgender identity and women's rights. The team uses the controversial case of Gabriel/Gabrielle Durone to spark a wider conversation about online censorship, the boundaries of empathy, the erosion of female-only spaces, and the complicity of both institutions and individuals in enabling pathological behavior under the banner of inclusivity.

Transcript

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[Michael]

I believe this is their king. It's One More Thing.

[Joe]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Michael]

One More thing. As we survey the landscape of the gender bending mad, we have found the champion Gabrielle, quote, unquote Durone is this fella who I'm this picture I'm looking at.

[Joe]

Name's Gabriel.

[Michael]

Yeah, he's a dude, but he likes to masquerade as a woman in the manner that is known as transgenderism in today's world. We talked about this at the end of the radio show. If you're just tag teaming on and continuing on to the One More Thing podcast, we're going to reset it briefly, then include a bit more information. This fella, Gabrielle Daron, spent nine months simulating pregnancy, including feigned morning sickness and the wearing of a fake belly with the intention of play acting. The loss of his imaginary baby, which is a sickness and a mental twist so horrific I don't want to dwell on it.

[Katie]

Yeah, it's almost separate. It's the whole you want people to feel bad for you sympathy thing.

[Michael]

Munchausen syndrome, although with a particular bizarre transgender twist. Because he knows he can't have a live baby, obviously. He also joined a support group for grieving mothers who had lost children, seeking, indeed demanding validation and support for his planned quote, unquote stillbirth. You know, I hate trigger warnings. I think they're stupid, but maybe we should have had one. Yeah, for this one. For folks who've endured this, the unimaginable sadness, grief, tragedy of losing a child. Anyway, he went so far as to rent a machine that simulated contractions and bought a plastic baby, which he inserted into his rectum and then gave birth to.

[Katie]

Okay, you got to slow down a little. So what he said is somebody put the baby up, right? What's a machine that simulates contractions?

[Michael]

Don't have the slightest.

[Joe]

It's like it creates muscle contractions. They have them for all sorts of stuff. They're like two little electrical pads and you put them on your lower pelvic line and it makes all the muscles contract down there. And is that for a.

[Michael]

Usually for a legitimate medical profession, like for muscle issues.

[Katie]

Yeah. Hanson, our executive producer, just said in my ear, he's used one for injuries before.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Katie]

So give it a muscle contraction. So you'd hook that up to you and then. Oh, the baby's kicking.

[Joe]

Right. I have one for my neck. It's just.

[Michael]

God.

[Katie]

And then. I don't want to gloss over this. He bought a toy baby and shoved it up him.

[Michael]

Yes. Yes. And then, quote, unquote, gave birth to it. Oh, yeah. Afterwards, he took two weeks off from work to, quote, unquote, grieve because the

[Katie]

toy baby was, quote, stillborn.

[Michael]

Yes. Well, it was effectively women who objected to his presence in the group. This is the part that got my blood a boiling. Women who had actually lost children were kicked out so that this man could feel support in his game of let's pretend that's crazier than real grief was considered less important than this man's sexual fantasy.

[Katie]

If I'm in a room with people and one of them is this guy with a plastic belly on who shoved up a doll up his ass to pretend he's pregnant, he's still less crazy than that person over there who kicked out the women who complained.

[Michael]

Well, as he stays, you go. I'm sorry. She stays.

[Joe]

Of course, I can promise you that the. I'm assuming the people moderating those groups online were women have never been pregnant or don't have kids.

[Michael]

I wonder how that. If there was a single husband involved, teeth would have been loosened.

[Joe]

I'm just thinking about, you know, I'm in several Facebook groups for moms and Instagram groups and whatnot, and that that topic of, oh, my God, is my baby okay? Comes up hundreds of times a day.

[Katie]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

And it's the scariest thought in the world. I mean, I was just telling you guys off the air, I got rushed to labor and delivery the other day because they said my kid's heart rate dropped. Everything ended up being fine, but for a solid, like, three hours, I was sitting there very, very worried. So the fact that somebody is simulating this because they're effing sick, and then people are go, you know, cheering them on. This is just. This is so beyond me.

[Katie]

Most toy babies are, like, the size.

[Michael]

Take a deep breath, Katie.

[Katie]

Most toy babies are, like, this big. I mean, they're like the size of a baby.

[Michael]

Yeah, they're pretty large. The rectum thing.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Seriously?

[Katie]

Well, did he use a troll doll or did he have a. I'm having trouble picturing this.

[Michael]

Wow. Why don't you find his number and ask him?

[Katie]

Well, we. Maybe we could, because Katie's got more information on the person. She. She dug it up.

[Joe]

I found him on Facebook.

[Michael]

Oh, I tell you what. Let me do this real quickly, and then you can do that to top it all off, he did all of this in the house he still shared with his unconsenting, soon to be ex wife and their minor children.

[Katie]

Oh my God.

[Michael]

He even roped his seven year old into taking quote unquote maternity pictures.

[Katie]

Oh my God.

[Michael]

Mr. Durone also convinced his doctors to provide him with drugs to induce lactation. He asked the of an online breastfeeding group he joined if any of them would be willing to let him breastfeed, that is their babies, and attempted to donate the chemical laced, sludgy, pumped out of his moobs to quote other mothers.

[Katie]

I hope nobody took him up on that.

[Michael]

I was thinking, what doctor would do that?

[Katie]

That's a good question, Michael.

[Michael]

Then a bit of editorial. And Katie, with the additional information, these men have proven over and over again there's no aspect of women's pain they will not twist into a prop for their sickening deviancy. Rape to oppression to sexual objectification, not to mention just being in locker rooms. Even the loss of a child in the womb is fair game to them. A perverted, selfish, hyper sexualized game of make believe that must also always take priority over the real pain and real needs of real women. I would, I would not generalize from this guy.

[Katie]

No, no, no, no. I gotta believe most trans people think this guy is nuts.

[Michael]

Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, let's be fair.

[Katie]

So what did we learn? This is a Bay Area person. Shockingly.

[Joe]

Shockingly enough. Yeah. It's a Bay Area Disney adult. I'm looking at a picture of him when he was still a dude. Well, he's always a dude. But when he still identified as a dude.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Turns out you can't change your sex. Right.

[Joe]

Of him with his son.

[Katie]

Poor kid.

[Joe]

Who's maybe one in this picture. Maybe one and a half.

[Michael]

Little baby.

[Joe]

And then fast forward to that baby is now maybe three or four. It is wearing a little girl's shirt with dad, who is now identifying as a woman.

[Michael]

Oh, he tried to trans his little son.

[Joe]

Yeah. And then you fast forward one more year and that son, still very young. Now we're talking maybe five. Looks like a little girl in a dress. In a picture with dad who now identifies as a female.

[Katie]

That's. The state needs to step in. That is absolute 100 child abuse, without a doubt. Poor kid.

[Joe]

You know, mom's just as guilty too, for sure. You know, I don't.

[Katie]

What's her deal?

[Joe]

I have no idea. But she. I don't, I don't know. I don't know.

[Michael]

You know, interesting comments on this too. Here is a person who is local to that craziness and said I remembered when this. I remember when this happened. Anyone who talked about it on Facebook or Twitter or instantly shut down, slash banned. Because when these were posted, this was pre Elon. I guess at least those days are mostly over.

[Katie]

If you like, pointed out the absurdity of this, you got shut down.

[Michael]

Oh yeah, yeah. If you talked about it at all because you're transphobic. I get that women are. What's the term? Bad drivers.

[Joe]

You shut up.

[Michael]

Bad parkers. I think is fair.

[Joe]

Says the guy whose car drives itself. Get out of here, Jack.

[Michael]

Yeah, well said. Wait a she won that round Anyway that women see things through a lens of acceptability more than a lot of men, particularly higher testosterone. Men do. And women don't want to cause trouble, you know. Anyway, you know what I'm talking about or you don't. But I am still just stunned at the number of American women who will accept rape, whether in prisoner or wherever. Incursions by men with mental problems into their locker rooms and private spaces and all in the name of being a good person because they've been told allowing men with mental problems to trample all over them makes them a good person. So they accept it and they do it. I just. I am flabbergasted by that.

[Joe]

I'm with you, Joe.

[Michael]

He should have been thrown out immediately at least. Yeah, yeah.

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[Katie]

Democratic Party's got a big decision to make whether to nominate someone who leans this direction or someone like Rahm Emanuel. We played the clips yesterday who said dudes and girls sports is nuts. He wants to be the Democratic nominee. They got a decision to make.

[Joe]

I just want to know where all of those women, every single one of them that was walking down any major road in any of our major cities wearing that pink pussy hat back in 2016 screaming about women's rights went yeah,

[Michael]

yeah, yeah, no kidding. Finally I'm going to read a cartoon to you. The images are quite entertaining but you can picture them however you want to. This is Ann. She is a left wing lesbian who has been involved in left wing politics for her entire adult life. This is Tom, a 50 year old taxi driver who has decided to blow up his marriage and family in order to live his fetish. He claims to be a naughty little girl and a hot slut and does not agree that Tom is a woman. Ann is now far right and a Nazi. She also gets death and rape threats from women who support from men who support Tom. That's pretty accurate.

[Joe]

Yeah, she's a terf.

[Michael]

She's a trans exclusionary radical feminist like J.K. rowling.

[Katie]

That's quite a story you brought us today.

[Michael]

My pleasure. I don't think I've had a story

[Joe]

make me that angry in a long, long time.

[Michael]

Well, I guess that's it.

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