I Bet He Had Help From Some Bitch On The Inside

Summary

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Episode: "I Bet He Had Help From Some Bitch On The Inside"

Date: January 8, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer/Co-hosts/Contributors: Katie
Notable Guest (interview excerpt): Ian Bremmer (Eurasia Group)

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Overview

This episode features Armstrong and Getty’s signature blend of sharp news analysis, irreverent humor, and discussion of current events. The central theme is the fallout and commentary surrounding a controversial shooting incident involving ICE in Minneapolis and the broader issues of politicized reactions to law enforcement events. The hosts also touch on the sociopolitical risks surrounding AI and energy policy, based on an interview with Ian Bremmer, and mix in lighter moments about dogs escaping shelters, shoes that don’t fit, and the cleanliness of teenage bathrooms.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Dog Escapes Shelter - News Oddity

• [02:29] The episode kicks off with a quirky news story about "Dawson," a dog in West Virginia who escaped from a locked kennel and unlocked the shelter's front door using his teeth.
  • Katie: "I'm not gonna adopt him. I hope he adopts me."
  • Joe: "I'll bet he had help from some bitch on the inside." ([02:53])

2. Media Tone Consistency

• [03:01] Joe comments on how TV anchor David Muir uses the same dramatic tone for major tragedies and trivial news:
  • Joe: "David Muir uses the same tone of voice for the second building just fell on 9/11 as he does for a dog escaped from his kennel..."

3. AI and the Loss of Productive Drudgery

• [03:39–05:24] Katie introduces an article positing that while AI removes mundane tasks, it also eliminates mental downtime crucial for creativity.
  • Katie: "We're not designed to constantly be dealing with the big stuff."
  • Joe: "[AI] that could pull all that together and do it for me every month... Oh, I would freaking pay a lot for that."

4. Interview Excerpt: Ian Bremmer on Eurasia Group's Top Risks 2026

• [05:51–10:13]

a) AI: 'Eats its Users'

• Companies are all-in on AI; the pressure is on to commercialize, especially consumer-facing AI.
• Risks include testing AI "on society, on us, on our kids" with unknown mental and political effects.
• Ian Bremmer: "AI is a hell of a lot more capable at programming us, at changing our behavior..." ([07:08])

b) AI vs. Social Media

• Drawing parallels to social media's profit-driven shift towards addictiveness, but noting AI's greater capability to manipulate.
• Societal lack of regulation is a risk: "We're like, hey, go for it, train it on us. And that just seems like it is not destined to go well..." ([07:45])

c) Energy Rivalry: US Petrostate vs. Chinese Electostate

• The US doubles down on oil; China invests in batteries and the "electric stack" for cheaper electricity.
• Ian: "We're going out there selling 20th century oil, gas and coal... and they're going out there selling 21st century energy infrastructure..." ([09:03])
• China could surpass the US in ability to power AI and support growth—"That’s not a position the Americans should be in."

5. Domestic Energy, China, and Political Priorities

• [10:33–12:35] The hosts debate if oil-centric policy is outdated in the face of China's advances in electrification and infrastructure.
  • Joe: "I was thinking, this is really a great move... if it’s 1978."
  • Katie: "We're behind. We are absolutely behind in a lot of ways. Our electric grid, our battery capacities..."

6. Shoe Shopping Follies

• [13:14–15:49] A comic aside about wearing the wrong shoe size, sacrificing comfort for bargain deals.
  • Joe: "I wear an 11, and these are twelves...I am kind of sloshing around in them."
  • Katie: "You should have gone for a 13 or 14. Why not?"

7. Reactions to the Minneapolis ICE-Related Shooting

• [23:29–34:28]

a) Politicized, Reactionary Leadership and Public Perception

• Hosts analyze the immediate, inflammatory responses from politicians and officials.
• Katie: "This was so, so preventable, so unnecessary..."
• Minneapolis Mayor Frey: “This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying.” ([25:10])

b) Due Process vs. Rush to Judgement

• Criticism of public officials for declaring guilt/innocence based on partial evidence.
• Katie: "You’ve seen a video and that’s plenty of evidence for you to render a verdict?"

c) Nature of the Confrontation

• Analysis of the legal standard (fleeing felon doctrine)—was force justified?
• Noting the broader activist tactic of creating 'decision dilemmas' for cops.
• Katie: "She was doing what is a classic neo-Marxist technique..."
• Joe: "She played that stupid game and won a truly stupid and tragic prize."

d) Media and Political Grandstanding

• Critique of both left and right for using the incident for culture war points.
• Joe: “Deranged leftist has nothing to do with it... What’s in her head is not supposed to make any difference.” ([32:00])
• Katie: “I have a very strong feeling the cop is going to be cleared of any charges...”

8. Consistent Principles on Use of Force

• [35:03–37:47] Thought experiment: if the same standards applied to Jan 6 police response, more MAGA protesters would have been shot.
  • Joe: "How about those cops that were on their back being beaten with American flags or Bear Mace and kicked? Were their lives in danger and was it cool to shoot those protesters, how the hell would it not have been?" ([37:19])
  • Katie: "It's about principle. Once you get used to having a principle...it’s kind of a good way to live."

9. Teenage Bathroom Cleanliness Saga

• [39:39–43:43] Comic segment about Armstrong’s sons sharing a bathroom and evidence-based attempts to solve disputes.
  • Jack: "I took pictures of the sink and the toilet because the less clean one claims it's not him."
  • Joe: "One word describes most of the problem. Hair. Oh, freaking everywhere."

10. Upcoming Segments and Recap

• [43:43–44:35] Teasers about extended coverage and more in the podcast’s "Hour Four."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Getty [02:53]: "I'll bet he had help from some bitch on the inside." (On the shelter escape dog, with comedic timing)
• Ian Bremmer [07:08]: "AI is a hell of a lot more capable at programming us, at changing our behavior, making us believe that we're talking to people when actually we're talking to things that have no affect and are just trying to get the outcomes they want out of us..."
• Katie [33:51]: "She played that stupid game and won a truly stupid and tragic prize."
• Joe Getty [32:00]: "Deranged leftist has nothing to do with it... What's in her head is not supposed to make any difference."
• Katie [37:47]: "It's about principle. You know, once you get used to having a principle and sticking with it... it's kind of a good way to live."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:29] – Dog escapes animal shelter: "Great escape" news story
• [03:39] – AI and loss of mental downtime for businesspeople
• [05:51] – Interview excerpt with Ian Bremmer: AI and global risks
  • [07:08] – AI’s risks for society and politics
  • [09:03] – US petrostate vs. China’s electrostate explained
• [10:33] – US oil strategy vs. China's electrification dominance
• [23:29] – Deep dive: Minneapolis ICE shooting, public & political response
  • [25:10] – Mayor’s statement and “rush to judgment” theme
  • [26:13] – Mayor’s F-bomb defense
  • [28:10] – Analysis of legal standards for use of force
• [32:00] – Point about ideology not mattering to legality
• [35:03] – Consistency of use-of-force standards: Minneapolis vs. Jan 6th
• [39:39] – Teen son bathroom cleanliness debate (lighter moment)

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Tone & Style

The hosts maintain an irreverent, conversational tone throughout, using humor and candid banter even during serious discussions. They balance deep dives into legal and political issues with relatable personal anecdotes and pop culture asides, relying on honest, sometimes blunt, language.

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For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, this summary captures both the serious and absurd moments. The show delivers political commentary, social insight—especially into how events become weaponized in the culture wars—and a healthy dose of everyday life humor. For those interested in media, politics, or just a window into how contentious public events are dissected, this episode is well worth a listen.

Transcript

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[Katie]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. A great escape.

[Katie]

A dog named Dawson slipping out of his locked kennel at Huntington Caval Wayne.

[Joe Getty]

Animal Shelter, West Virginia.

[Katie]

Then using his teeth to unlock the front door of the shelter.

[Joe Getty]

They have found Dawson. They're hoping someone will now adopt him.

[Katie]

You'll just need good locks for your doors. So he slipped out of a locked kennel, then used his teeth to unlock the front door of the shelter. I'm not gonna adopt him. I hope he adopts me.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet he had help from some bitch on the inside.

[Katie]

Good dog. Good boy. Wow, that's a clever dog.

[Joe Getty]

Ever since my son pointed it out. Now I can't not hear the fact that David Muir uses the same tone of voice for the second building just fell on 911 as he does for a dog escaped from his kennel or There's a new Girl Scout cookie. He has the same tone of voice.

[Katie]

For every story, right as his fire jacket is carefully clipped to reveal his buff body. Remember that picture.

[Joe Getty]

We are gonna get back into how America is tearing itself apart again over yet another shooting that everybody see way they would have seen it politically, even without knowing the details, which is interesting.

[Katie]

We've been touching on the legalities, the ethics, the leftist movement that brought us to this movement and all sorts of aspects of this throughout the show and will continue to. I came across this and I love it because it strikes me as intuitively correct. AI is freeing a lot of people in the business world up from the mundane sort of activities that used to occupy probably at least a chunk of their day. Sorting and summarizing emails, taking meeting notes, filing expense reports. And AI promises to free us to concentrate on the important stuff, which sounds great, but the catch, according to business leaders and scientists who've been studying this, is that our brains aren't capable of thinking the big thoughts non stop, and we risk forfeiting the epiphanies that sometimes spring to mind when you're doing the repetitive, dull stuff.

[Angie Hicks]

Hmm.

[Katie]

And they go through several CEOs who've realized this. And after a meeting, for instance, this one guy takes a few minutes to digest the key points, reflect on what he said, make a couple of notes, and just sit there and think about it. Because we're not designed well. It's like I'm always saying about social media and a supercomputer and TV in our hands. We're not designed to take never ending input, and we're not designed to constantly be dealing with the big stuff. Rhythms, waves.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, there's a lot of drudgery sort of things. I was just thinking when you said expense report, I got like this thing I gotta keep track of for boring reasons. But God, if there was AI that could pull all that together and do it for me every month. Oh, I would freaking pay a lot for that. Yeah, drudgery of just stupid crap like that. Where I think, why am I doing this?

[Katie]

Oh yeah, there's a sweet spot. No doubt. Absolutely no doubt. Speaking of AI, that was one of several topics we discussed with Ian Bremmer of the Eurasia Group. Their famous top risks of the year are out for 2026 and it's available as an Armstrong and Getty extra large podcast. Wherever you'd like to download podcasts [e-mail] but here's a little chunk of what we talked to Ian about.

[Joe Getty]

We are super into AI stuff around here. So my first question off the bat about RISC 8AI eats its users. I was just reading Bloomberg's prediction that companies mostly are still going to be all in on AI. How do you feel it's going to play out this year?

[Ian Bremmer]

I believe they will be all in on AI, but there's going to be a lot more pressure to commercialize it, to make money, to provide returns to all these shareholders with enormous amounts of money that being spent on these large language models only getting more complex with more data, more chips requirements, more energy requirements. And I think that's fine for a lot of companies that are doing business to business, that are doing industrial purposes, defense. But for the companies that are selling AI to consumers, they're going to need to make profit any way they can. And that means testing these things real time on society, on us, on our kids. And I think that's actually quite a dangerous risk for our political system and for our mental well being.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I noticed we talked about this right before the end of the year Open Altman announcing that they're going to like focus on the chat GPT, the thing that people kind of like and not so much the getting to, you know, artificial general intelligence as much. So that's what you're talking about.

[Ian Bremmer]

It is. And you know, we all know that social media, when they decided that they need to start making a profit, it became much less community oriented, much more addiction and engagement oriented. Well, AI is a hell of a lot more capable at programming us, at changing our behavior, making us believe that we're talking to people when actually we're talking to things that have no affect and are just trying to get the outcomes they want out, it wants out of us. There are people like that in society. We call them sociopaths. We don't want to be around them.

[Katie]

Right.

[Ian Bremmer]

And yet when it comes to AI, we're like, hey, go for it, Train it on us. And that just seems like it is not destined to go well, especially because the race is so well funded, it's so fast, and it's not effectively regulated at all because we all just want to win. We just want to. We think it's so amazing. We want this to go faster and faster. And I do get the fact that, you know, whenever we talk about government involvement, we also talk about red tape and we talk about entrepreneurs not being able to do the things they're great at. But here we are talking about public safety and we should care. We care about that with vaccines. We test those first, we care about it with GMO foods. But somehow when it involves, like actually programming our minds, it no longer matters.

[Katie]

Wow, I'm glad to hear you say that. We're big fans of Peter Boghossian around here, who's written extensively about the effects of technology and social media on kids especially. And I just think giving superpowers to the sort of technology we've already decided is absolutely pathological, especially for youngsters seems incredibly dangerous. But there it is on your list of risks. Yeah.

[Ian Bremmer]

And it's also showing up in risk number two in a very different way that risk number two.

[Katie]

Oh, good. I was just about to ask about that. Yeah, hit it.

[Ian Bremmer]

Yeah, well, because the. Because here you've got the Americans doubling down on being the strongest petro state in the world. 13.5 million barrels a day of oil production, plus, you know, Venezuela. And at the largest oil reserves proven in the world, all of which is great for American power. And the United States is refusing to, to keep investing in solar and wind and batteries and all the things that are getting much cheaper in terms of energy, because those are woke climate energies. Well, the Chinese aren't particularly woke, but they do know that they need as much energy as possible and they are investing massively in the electric stack and they're becoming an electro state, while we're a petro state. The only problem is the electro state is becoming a lot cheaper at producing electricity every year. So we're going out there selling 20th century oil, gas and coal to countries and they're going out there selling 21st century energy infrastructure to countries. And who's going to be better at powering the AI? Who's going to be better at feeding their people? And the answer is the Chinese. That's not a position the Americans should be in.

[Joe Getty]

So that's from our interview with Ian Bremmer about the global risks and you can find that in our Armstrong and Getty Extra Large podcast if you want to hear the whole thing. I thought it was pretty darn interesting. China's doing in terms of becoming the leader in the world by far, of producing electricity is something.

[Katie]

The stack, Jack. The stack he was talking about. Yeah. China just cut off Japan's access to rare earth minerals as a punishment for their resisting the commie takeover of Asia. It's so utterly just incredibly clear that we need to look at every single way we're dependent on the Chinese and end that. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And Ian, presenting it as electricity versus fossil fuels.

[Katie]

That's both.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I just, I mean, I did have the thought when. When it became clear over the weekend when Trump kept talking about oil with Venezuela, that, oh, okay, this really matters to you a lot. The oil thing, the fentanyl thing. You haven't mentioned that since. Now it's all about the oil and all the things we're going to do and everything like that. So was that the whole driving force may be. But I was thinking this is really a great move. If it's 1978 is really awesome that we're going to become the dominant player with oil around the world. Is it as important now? I don't know. Oil still really a big deal.

[Katie]

No doubt about it. Yeah. As you know, Venezuela's about a lot more than that. Yeah, that's. That's an interesting question. If they had zero oil, I would still be extremely concerned about being a warm, welcoming port China. And, and, you know, my point is.

[Joe Getty]

Trump often is stuck in the past of what's important. It's like why he cares so much about Time magazine or, you know, all.

[Katie]

That sort of stuff. Right. Because he just, he's Nobel Peace Prize.

[Joe Getty]

He's living what it was many years ago. And I just wonder if he was thinking oil is the. You know, you control the planet if you control the oil. If AI becomes the main thing in the world, is having electricity like China's building going to be that huge?

[Katie]

We're behind. We are absolutely behind in a lot of ways. Our electric grid, our battery capacities, our technology, our access to the rarest, that we're minerals that we're talking about. It's got to be dealt with. Yeah, that's an interesting question. I don't know, because Trump is definitely stuck in the past sometimes twice.

[Joe Getty]

Zuckerberg and Elon are building their own giant electric plants to be able to power their own AI because there's not going to be enough from the county or the state, wherever they are.

[Katie]

I saw the other day that was it. 54%. It was not much of a majority, but a majority of. Of Democrats are in favor of nuclear power at this point.

[Joe Getty]

Good. Now that is good. That would be fantastic.

[Katie]

Welcome back. Did Jackson Brown tell you it's okay now, Lefty friends. Good Lord.

[Joe Getty]

And then if fusion ever gets going, that'd be huge. I am my. I'm wearing shoes that are way too big for me today, so I'm having trouble adjusting.

[Katie]

Wait, wait. No, no, no. How did that happen? Did you steal them off of a hobo or what? Did you find them?

[Joe Getty]

Saw a guy passed out in the bushes. I thought, man, he's a lot taller than me. But those are some good looking shoes. There's this particular kind of shoe that I wanted. It's very expensive. I would never ever in a million years buy them at that price. I found them on ebay for a tiny fraction of the price.

[Katie]

I wouldn't wear those ugly ass shoes.

[Joe Getty]

But not in my size. I wear an 11, and these are twelves. And.

[Katie]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm kind of sloshing around in them. I really like the way they look, but I am kind of sloshing around them and even in my thick socks. Yes, Katie. No, you aimed low.

[Katie]

You should have gone for a 1314.

[Joe Getty]

Why not? Since we're just saying screw our shoes, we're gonna go full clown. Yeah, I have another. It's. I've done the opposite before. This is more comfortable than what. I've done the opposite. I find some shoes that are too small, but they're the shoe that I want at the price that I want. And that's, like, painful. Oh, no, no, no, no. Gosh, no.

[Katie]

Big is ill advised. Small is a bad decision.

[Joe Getty]

But if I had to take off running, I would step right out of these things. There's no doubt about it. If anything happened, I'm just gonna run out of my shoes. Yes, Michael. You know, I found out that I was wearing the wrong shoe size for all these years. I did that too. Yeah, I didn't know. I did that too. And late in life, I was probably.

[Katie]

How do you not know? Can you not feel them?

[Joe Getty]

I. I do try. I'll answer for myself then, Michael. Cancer. Yeah, I do try them on and everything like that, but I had been wearing this too small a shoe size for my whole life. Yeah, it just felt normal to me. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too.

[Katie]

Being squoes. Katie and I are both completely mystified by this. Yeah, you try the one size. You think this is uncomfortable? I'll try the slightly bigger ones. You think these are more comfortable, then you buy those. Right? That's how I've always understood it to work.

[Joe Getty]

Well, at least in my case I was. I needed to go a half size bigger than what I thought felt comfortable to be the correct size. And it's about where your the ball of your foot lands versus the length of your foot and all kinds of different stuff that matters. I think I finally found out when I talked to a foot expert or a podiatrist or something. I don't know.

[Katie]

Did you ever try like a 10 and a half, an 11 and an 11 and a half and just say these feel better? Or again or just mystified?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. The shoes I'm wearing today are plenty big, I'll tell you that. Well, I'm learning.

[Katie]

You sacrifice comfort for fashion.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely. 100%. I'm an 11.

[Katie]

Like my pappy before me, I only.

[Joe Getty]

Wear size 11 no matter what. The heated rhetoric continues around the shooting in Minneapolis, and that ain't good. We'll get to that story, among other things, coming up. Stay here, Armstrong and Getty this episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. Whether you're starting a new routine or making player picks for the first time, trying something new can be hard. But in life and on Prize Picks, it always feels good to be right.

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That's an interesting D is a good thing to eat everybody.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

Quack quack.

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Maybe it was Dr. Oz calling. Huh?

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[Katie]

Hey, we got a text follow up.

[Joe Getty]

To our Ian Bremmer conversation thing that's worth mentioning. Ian hates Trump, this person says, which is true. And didn't mention that China's still building coal power plants as fast as they can. And that is true. That is true. So they are building electricity, but it's not like they've given up on fossil fuel and think it's some of the past. They're building coal plants as fast as they can. Yeah, I don't want to spend a.

[Katie]

Lot of time on this, but we tried to cover so many topics and just get his point of view. We could have argued about all sorts of stuff and gotten bogged down. It would have been a four hour discussion, which some people do via podcast, which is fine, but we just thought all right, let him speak his piece and we can follow up later. Anyway, I wanted to get to this real quickly. Coming up, Zoramdani's Marxist cabinet there in New York is hilarious. Jack, it is precisely what you were describing yesterday. These upper class twit over educated rich kids who go Marxist. It is again, it's almost comedic who he has advising him. Secondly, back to the Minnesota shooting and what that has to do with Marxism and the rush to judgment and overheated rhetoric and the rest of it. So stay with us if you can. Wanted to touch on this though real quickly. Marco Rubio tweeted this the other day that the United States has pulled out of 66 international groups and agencies, including 31 linked to the UN calling them contrary to the interests of the United States.

[Joe Getty]

66 international things we were part of that are either useless, lot of them hate us, lot of them.

[Katie]

Why were we in them ever right? Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance, the International Union for the Conservation of Nature. They all have lovely names, but he said they're either anti American, useless or wasteful, adding that the government was conducting a review of additional international groups. Quote these withdrawals keep a key promise President Trump made to Americans. We will stop subsidizing globalist bureaucrats who act against our interests. The other side Appraise what you're spending your time and money on every so often.

[Joe Getty]

The other side of that argument is always, well, if you're in those organizations, you can try to have an influence on them. That's the argument. Do you pull out of them or do you stay in them and try to have I'm for pulling out of them.

[Katie]

Screw you.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

Question, Mr. Chairman, are we a superpower that can ignore them anytime we want?

[Joe Getty]

Yes, we're out the shooting. More on that. Stay tuned.

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[Katie]

This. This was so, so preventable, so unnecessary. And I don't know, I hope maybe we're at their McCarthy moment. Do you have no decency? Do you have no decency? We have someone dead in their car for no reason whatsoever.

[Joe Getty]

I think there's some reason.

[Katie]

I think if you rewind a little bit. He's right. There was no reason to interfere with ICE all day long than create the Marxist Alinskyite decision dilemma where you interfere with cops to the point that they retaliate or shoot you justifiably. More on that to come. But Tim Waltz, who is one of the worst politicians on the face of the earth, went on. We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed if necessary. I remind you, a warning order is a heads up for folks. And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops. They're teachers in your community. They're business owners. They're construction professionals. They are Minnesotans. Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight. We will not take the bait.

[Joe Getty]

So is that our National Guards gonna fight Trump's ice in the streets?

[Katie]

No, I think our beloved producer Hanson misinterpreted that. He was talking to the citizens. Don't burn down your city and don't fight the National Guard. They're your neighbors. That was actually a fairly reasonable thing to say. And he did call for calm after he declared it was a cold blooded murder. Unbelievable. Then you got the mayor of Minneapolis who's an adolescent, he's an emotional child. 50.

[Minneapolis Mayor]

They are already trying to spin this as an action of self defense. Having seen the video of myself, I want to tell everybody directly that is bull. This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying.

[Katie]

Wow. You've seen a video and that's plenty of evidence for you to render a verdict. Geez, you ought to be in charge of every single courtroom in the country.

[Joe Getty]

Although you can say the same thing of DH Secretary Kristi Noem and Donald Trump. You've seen a. I was going to get to that. You've seen a video and rendered a verdict. How about none of us render any, especially people who are in the business of like being the, the whole process here about you. For, for God's sake, as a leader say we're gonna have an investigation. Slow down. No, but did anybody say that, if anybody said that yesterday, I didn't hear him.

[Katie]

One more clip from the mayor.

[Minneapolis Mayor]

Michael, there's little I can say again that'll make this situation better. But I do have a message for our community for a city and I have a message for ICE to ice, get the out of Minneapolis.

[Katie]

That's an odd thing for a mayor to say to federal law enforcement carrying out a lawful mission.

[Joe Getty]

It really, really need to get to the bottom of that really is there's no such thing as a sanctuary city. But thus far the Supreme Court hasn't figured that out. Up.

[Katie]

So back to Jack's point. Yeah. Kristi Noem immediately went to this 63. Michael.

[Angie Hicks]

It was an act of domestic terrorism. What happened was our ICE officers were out in enforcement action. They got stuck in the snow because.

[Katie]

Of the adverse weather that is in Minneapolis.

[Angie Hicks]

They were attempting to push out their vehicle and a woman attacked them and those surrounding them and attempted to run them over and ram them with her vehicle.

[Katie]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

So back to Frey briefly because I just came across this this morning. So he, he said the stuff that you probably heard throughout the day if you're following the news. Then he went on a cable news show where he was asked about dropping an F bomb and whether that was appropriate or not. The mayor there in Minneapolis and he.

[Minneapolis Mayor]

Said this, I'm so sorry if I offended their Disney princess ears. But here's the thing. If we're talking about what's inflammatory on you got someone who dropped an F bomb and on the other hand you got someone who killed somebody else. F bomb killing somebody. I think the more inflammatory action is killing somebody. And so once again, let's be real and just honest and straight up about what's happening here. This is not okay. The way they're coming into cities, not just Minneapolis, but around the country, is not okay.

[Katie]

All right, now you've changed the subject again to ISIS activities in general. You know what's not okay is to declare something, a murder, a cold blooded murder, when indeed it is obvious if you watch more than one video, Mr. Mayor, that yeah, the woman inadvertently or intentionally hits a law enforcement officer with her car. And, and that is assault with a deadly weapon according to every law in every state. I mean it's just beyond dispute. The legal question becomes, and we went over this in more detail our one of the shows show because she had passed the officer she had just hit and was no longer in the blink of an eye. And this all transpired in the course of a couple of seconds, no longer a threat to him. She was indeed in the act of fleeing at that point. Was it justified to shoot her? And that gets in a mini Minnesota and federal law that has to do with whether the officer is trying to arrest or prevent the escape of the person. The officer reasonably believes has, has committed or attempted a felony involving deadly force. And the officer reasonably believes the person will cause death or great bodily harm if not immediately apprehended. That will be where the legal case is. You know, where it's hinged, how it's weighed, and I will tell you this, and it's context worth knowing. The number of vehicles used to ram ICE agents and their vehicles nationwide has skyrocketed. If you go on the nests of lefty activity on the web suggesting it, they're encouraging it. A number of ICE agents and vehicles have been damaged or injured, including the officer who was involved in the shooting. He had been hit and dragged a few weeks ago by somebody attempting to interfere with ICE's activities with a vehicle. Final thought we mentioned this, I think it was last hour is what this woman, this poor woman who's dead and she's a poor woman, no matter, you know, whether she's a just a stupid misled lefty half witness it or made a terrible mistake. She was doing what is a classic neo Marxist technique, putting the cops in a decision dilemma, getting so in their faces, interfering with their work so much, they provoke, she provokes a response. Then if that response is violent or, or notable in any way, everybody of course is recording on their phone and you publicize it. Look at the fascists. Look at the fascists. Look at the fascists. It's why the antifa people get in cops face and shine lasers in their eyes and like go as if they're going to poke him in the face or punch him in the mouth or whatever. They're trying to provoke a response. She did that and she got a response. Whether it's the right response or not legally justified, the courts will decide.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if there's anybody that painted themselves in glory or what. What's the, what's the saying people say about that?

[Katie]

Covered themselves in glory.

[Joe Getty]

Covered themselves in glory yesterday day. Politically or in the media? I don't know if anybody did. Everybody went to their. And you could have not even had the video. You could have just described what happened and I feel like 99% of people would have said the same thing. Uh, that's just the way it is. J.D. vance out with a tweet. Every congressional Democrat and every Democrat who's running for president should be asked a simple question. Did you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over? Deranged leftist has nothing to do with it. I mean she either tried to run over a cop or she didn't. And the cop responded appropriately or not. What's in her head is not supposed to make any difference.

[Katie]

Well, intent, intent makes a difference, but like ideology, not so much.

[Joe Getty]

Well yeah, intent make a difference. But yeah, I'm talking about her ideology. For instance, what Jesse Waters talked about, that this woman killed by ICE had pronouns in her bio, leaves behind a lesbian partner, she's a poet and has a child from a previous marriage.

[Katie]

What?

[Joe Getty]

So it's okay? I mean, yeah, it's completely wrong.

[Katie]

Why does anybody go there?

[Joe Getty]

Why does anybody go there?

[Katie]

I have a very strong feeling the cop is going to be cleared of any charges, given the specifics of the law and what happened because she unquestionably hit him. And if the mayor of Minneapolis had watched a couple more videos, he would know that.

[Joe Getty]

That.

[Katie]

But that doesn't mean we know she was intentionally trying to run the guy over. If you look at it from a number of angles, she was trying to get away. Absolutely. Was her attention focused on the guy at the window trying to pull her out of her car and she did not know there was another officer in front of her vehicle? It's entirely possible. We don't know.

[Joe Getty]

No, we don't know and we'll never know. But my guess would be her intention was her attention was entirely to her left there. And she, she turned the wheel and hit the gas to get out of there. She didn't know there was somebody standing in front of her.

[Katie]

Regardless, you know, if you want to bottom line it though, she spent all day leading this charge of blocking and impeding ICE agents and doing their federal duty. I can't imagine doing justify shooting her. But do not portray her as some sort of innocent who was just trying to parallel park and was executed by a fascist.

[Joe Getty]

It's just ridiculous, right? Man oh man, oh man. And God, you got kids, you got a life and you're going to like walk as far as you can up to the line of things getting nutty with, with, with people who are armed, right? That's a heck of a choice.

[Katie]

Yeah, she pushed it too far. It's a damn shame. But I, I again I will tell you this and it's disappointing to me and frustrating how few people in the media, in politics, in real life understand that this is a specific strategy. They wrote books about it, they signed them, the names are on the spine. This is what you do with the cops. You confront them, you provoke them over and over again. And she played that stupid game and won a truly stupid and tragic prize. Again, whether it's justified or not, legally speaking, we'll let the law decide. But it's, it's.

[Joe Getty]

Let me read one text. We got just. I'm trying to get as many different opinions in here as I can can.

[Katie]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

Of the way different people are looking at it. The cop jumped in front of the vehicle. There was plenty of room for him to get out of the way. He just shot her because she pissed him off. If a citizen shoots someone in self defense, every possible route of escape would be scrutinized. That's true. We've been through that.

[Katie]

That's what state you're in.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah, we've been through that many times. Why didn't you jump through the window and run down the fire escape when the robbers kicked your door in? You know, you know that does happen.

[Katie]

Some places and we've decried that as idiotic over and over again.

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[Joe Getty]

In other words, this officer yesterday in Minneapolis felt his life was in danger, so he was justified in shooting the woman. How about those cops that were on their back being beaten with American flags or Bear Macedon kicked? Were their lives in danger and was.

[Katie]

It cool to shoot those protesters, how.

[Joe Getty]

The hell would it not have been?

[Katie]

Are we asking too much of people to ask them to be consistent? I don't know. I don't think so. It's probably bad for business, but we've never been particularly oriented like that. Yeah, that's. Look, it's about principle. You know, once you get used to having a principle and sticking with it, it's occasionally inconvenient. But it's. It's kind of a good way to live.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Smart Play Bricks at this year's Consumer Electronics show in Vegas, they look a lot like regular Lego pieces, but they have chips inside them that can make the brick bricks light up or make sounds when they're placed near one another. The new bricks launch in March with the first sets featuring Star wars themes. I never mentioned the term Lego. It's a Lego. It's the biggest innovation in Lego in 50 years. They have new bricks that have little lights in them. How exciting. My kids are past the age of being into Legos. They are teenagers now and they share a bathroom and this has become an issue as one of them is significantly cleaner than the Other.

[Katie]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And I explained to them last night, how about this is like, is all the conversation as you could practically have siblings who share a bathroom and one of them complaining about the other one.

[Katie]

But.

[Joe Getty]

So this is what I've come up with. See if this seems like a good idea. I actually, after getting the bathroom pretty clean, I took pictures of the sink and the toilet because the less clean one claims it's not him. So I actually took pictures showing that the thing is clean, that the bathroom is clean. And then after he uses it, if it's not clean anymore, I will have the evidence that look, it wasn't because he always said it was that way before I didn't do it or.

[Katie]

So you go.

[Joe Getty]

I'm hoping this is what happens. I'm hoping this will work. So what's your question, Katie? So you're going into the bathroom after. Well, when the other son says he did it again, I can go into the bathroom and show the dirty son.

[Katie]

So it's like the commercials where. Let's go to the replay. We're gonna go under the hood, but in real life.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. More or less. This is what the bathroom looked like last night before you used it. And he hasn't been in there yet. So what's the deal?

[Katie]

Yeah, so we'll see if this works. Well, that's some good.

[Joe Getty]

It's funny if you got the, if you've got the clean gene or not. It's just like I am pretty neat. My bathroom never ever. Even when I was a 19 year old, drinking all the time, college guy with my own plate, my bathroom never looked the way my one son lives it and he doesn't even notice. Like, what are you talking about? What am I talking about? Look at this. Yeah, so it's just the way he's built. Different people have different tolerances for that sort of thing, I guess.

[Katie]

My wife and daughter and I were going to see my son in his college apartment and I, I reached out to him like a week before, I said, hey, dude, they're going to be ladies press. Listen, take a look at your bathroom. Take care of it, okay? Yeah. Yeah, okay. We get there, it's a freaking EPA super fun site. It's terrible. I was really disappointed in him. Oh my God. Take 10 minutes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, right. I think it's not that difficult. Well, I think it's a. I like, it doesn't bother me or it doesn't. I don't consider this dirty, so it doesn't make sense. It. Yeah, you think it's you get used to it. Or because I never. I never ever did that. I just. I'm not this. I. I couldn't handle my bathroom being that dirty. So we have different tolerances for neatness.

[Katie]

I guess you get used to it.

[Joe Getty]

Wonder if they'll wonder if they'll ever figure out that genetic thing. And crisper can make us all a little neater.

[Katie]

Or.

[Joe Getty]

Or less.

[Katie]

Never mind height or blue eyes. Give my kid the clean gene.

[Joe Getty]

One word describes most of the problem. Hair. Oh, freaking everywhere. What's the deal?

[Katie]

So coming up at hour four. Yes, there is an hour four. If you don't get it, you should subscribe to the podcast Armstrong and get it on Demand. It will be available presently and you can grab it later on today. But a couple of things, including a really great realist, nonpartisan analysis of what happened with the Minneapolis shooting, and it is at least somewhat related to the hilariously cliched makeup of Zoran Mumdani's cabinet. They're all exactly the sort of person we've been discussing. Your rich kid, upper class twit promoting revolution person.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I look forward to this. I will hear it because I have to be here by contract. But if you don't get to hear it, you can find it in the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on Demand. As Joe mentioned, Armstrong and Yeti on Demand. If you subscribe, it's it makes it so much easier. Just subscribe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Katie]

Did it move?

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