I Can't Believe That It Worked!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "I Can't Believe That It Worked!"
Date: May 6, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer/Engineer: Michaelangelo
Theme: California Politics, Social Mood, and Society’s Perpetual Existential Crisis

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the aftermath of the California gubernatorial debate, dissecting candidate positions (especially on immigration and Trump), debate dynamics, and political strategies. Armstrong and Getty expand the conversation into cultural dissatisfaction, generational malaise, social media's impact on youth, and America’s declining happiness despite economic richness. Throughout, the hosts blend sardonic humor, biting observations, and philosophical asides on the nation’s state of mind.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. California Gubernatorial Debate Recap and Commentary

• Katie Porter’s Debate Performance

  • Porter supports taxpayer-funded healthcare for undocumented immigrants, including coverage for sex reassignment surgeries.
  • The hosts critique the positioning:

    "That was Katie Porter asking the question, should illegals get healthcare paid for by the taxpayers? And she's an enthusiastic yes. So that's all you need to know about that. Good God." — Joe Getty (03:15)

  • Porter’s main strategy seemed to hinge on opposition to Donald Trump, despite Trump's absence from the gubernatorial race.
  • Armstrong notes the disconnect:

    "But running against Trump, which will affect gas prices in the state, how?" — Jack Armstrong (04:28)

• Immigration: Legal vs. Illegal Growth

  • Steve Hilton challenges Porter’s framing of California's growth, advocating for job creation through entrepreneurship and legal immigration.

    "I think we need to help small businesses create jobs and opportunity and for Californians to be able to earn more... Not by illegal immigration." — Steve Hilton (05:44)

• Debate Dynamics and Standouts

  • Armstrong and Getty read out a media grading of candidates (California Post):
    • Javier Becerra: A- (“probably going to be the next governor”)
    • Chad Bianco: B+ (“strong debate performance”)
    • Steve Hilton: B
    • Porter: D- (“abysmal performance… political malpractice by bringing up the thing voters don't like about her temperament”)
  • Discussion about the disconnect between focus on Trump vs. real state issues; the impact of temperament and foul language on primary electorate.

    "It seems to be kind of where we are. I don't like that that's where we are, but I don't think it damages you." — Joe Getty (11:13)

2. Polarization & Public Mood

• National Malaise & Declining Happiness

  • Discussion of Derek Thompson’s article in The Atlantic: “America’s so Rich. How did it get so sad?”
  • US well-being at a historic low, especially among young people, despite high standards of living.

    "You are constantly a target of politics and you never get political change... unless you can convince people that they are getting screwed." — Jack Armstrong (36:20)

  • Political forces constantly “sell misery” for engagement, votes, and money.

• Social Media, Adolescence, and Being ‘a Product’

  • Citing Frya India’s book, the hosts discuss Gen Z girls being shaped into products for consumption—curating their image online, seeking validation.

    "I'd like to think our product is, you know, fairly thoughtful discussion of what's happening in the world. But I understand that I am a product. I don't think adolescent girls who are desperate for approval understand that that's what they've become." — Jack Armstrong (27:28)

  • Survey: 1 in 3 Americans say they’re experiencing an existential crisis, Gen Z leads with >50% reporting so.

    "Major unplanned life changes in five months? As a 23-year-old? You pretty much had to lose a limb and get pregnant to pull that off." — Armstrong & Getty banter (30:44)

• Inflation, Anxiety, and Cultural Expectations

  • High anxiety levels and “existential threats” correlating with inflation and relentless comparisons (both social and economic).
  • Discussion on Gen Z’s definition of existential crisis and the impacts of catastrophizing minor setbacks.

    "We're teaching youngsters to catastrophize everything. The slightest setback is a... major unplanned life change." — Jack Armstrong (30:57)

3. American Identity & Optimism

• Highlight: Marco Rubio’s Hopeful Statement (19:59–20:52)

  • Rubio's articulate defense of American optimism, opportunity, and the concept of “perpetual improvement,” praised by the hosts as an extemporaneous, standout moment.

    "Ours is a story of perpetual improvement. Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer, more prosperous, safer..." — Marco Rubio (19:59)
    "That might be the most articulate answer I've ever heard to that sort of question." — Joe Getty (20:52)

• Philosophy of Why the System Endured

  • Question posed: What would the Founders say if they returned today?

    "Good God, I can't believe it worked—that it's still going after all this time. They would probably be shocked and happily so." — Joe Getty (22:29)

4. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If your main strategy is to get stupid people to vote for you, you go with stupid arguments." — Jack Armstrong (04:28)
• "Unrealistic expectations are an utter murderer of joy and they cause you to ignore everything that's good. And comparison with other people is the thief of joy." — Jack Armstrong (34:51)
• On pizza:

  "I only stop eating pizza because I'm ashamed and I realize people are looking at me or the box is empty, but never because you, like, need to." — Jack Armstrong (46:52)

5. Cultural/Tonal Observations

• The hosts maintain a biting, sardonic tone, openly critical of political strategies and societal trends but also self-aware about their own product (the podcast) and status as media participants.
• Frequent asides about generational experience, shame vs. pride in modern America, and the psychological toll of 24/7 political/consumerist messaging.

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Significant Timestamps for Reference

• 03:06 – Introduction of gubernatorial debate discussion, illegal immigration, and healthcare
• 05:44 – Steve Hilton and Katie Porter clash on immigration and economic growth
• 07:34 – 09:34 – Sheriff Chad Bianco and Antonio Villaraigosa heated exchange about Oath Keepers and sanctuary policy
• 11:13 – Debate results and analysis of candidate performances
• 19:59–20:52 – Marco Rubio’s answer on American hope
• 27:28 – Discussion on social media’s impact on young women’s self-perception
• 30:44–31:31 – Gen Z existential crisis statistics and satire
• 34:51 – Armstrong on unrealistic expectations & joy
• 36:20 – Politics as the perpetual salesman of misery
• 46:52 – Pizza as a metaphor for American excess/self-image

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Final Thoughts

• Armstrong & Getty reflect humorously on pizza’s irresistible allure, the possibility of creating a “basicitarian” community, and the primary driver of endless dissatisfaction in America—comparison, unrealistic expectations, and political exploitation of misery.
• Getty floats the sobering statistic that military suicides outpace deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, bemoaning the lack of urgency in veteran support—an issue tabled for deeper future discussion.
• The show finishes on its trademark playful/irreverent note, but leaves listeners with pointed questions about politics, societal happiness, and the meaning of a “successful” society.

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TL;DR:
The episode delivers an irreverent but incisive look at California’s political debates, unpacks the roots of America’s pervasive unhappiness despite its wealth, and muses on generational angst, ending with philosophical and culinary laughter.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Interviewer/Host]

Congresswoman Porter, thoughts on the idea of funding for undocumented immigrants statewide.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, yes. And to and that's, by the way,

[Congresswoman Katie Porter]

what I think Californians deserve as answers to these questions. Alex.

[Interviewer/Host]

And for critics who say that we

[Joe Getty]

so that's all I need. I didn't watch the debate last night, California gubernatorial debate, because I only get 3 score in 10 years on this earth, or that's what the Bible predicts. I'm hoping I get more than that. I'm hoping for like three score and 30. But you only get that many years on earth. And I'm not going to spend any of them watching the California gubernatorial debate. But anyway, that was Katie Porter asking the question, should illegals get healthcare paid for by the taxpayers? And she's an enthusiastic yes. So that's all you need to know about that. Good God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Including sex changes, of course, for illegal immigrant felons. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

How does that not end up being such a fringe position? Nobody would say it out loud. That's like the mainstream Democratic position.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of Katie Porter, that delicate flower of American womanhood, here she is in clip 86 Congresswoman Porter, what's your view? What's your response?

[Congresswoman Katie Porter]

Donald Trump sucks. And I don't think that anyone who doesn't see that he is targeting and hurting Californians and won't stand up for everybody who is counting on them to be their leader and keep them safe has no business being governor.

[Joe Getty]

Did the moderators at any point say Donald Trump's not running for governor?

[Jack Armstrong]

So, yeah, I was just gonna make the point that, well, if your main strategy is to get stupid people to vote for you, you go with stupid arguments. And the main tone of the debate, there was a lot about immigration, which is a federal matter, not a state matter, although with the whole sanctuary state thing, it kind of crosses that line improperly, if you ask me. But all of the Democratic candidates seemed to be running against Donald J. Trump, with the exception of Matt man, who's not made much, you know, headway so far, as far as anybody can tell. But running against Trump, which will affect gas prices in the state, how? I mean, arguably Iran. But you can't run against Trump. You're running for governor.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. How about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

I agree with you, but I think, to be fair, I'm just thinking about people I know who are that crowd that are just obsessed with hating Trump. That's what they want to hear. They want to hear that you hate Trump too. Good. He hates Trump. She hates Trump as much as I do, thank God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is how California got to the state. It is, politically speaking. Let's get some. Some Steve Hilton going here, John, with that sweet little Miss Porter. 80B here, Michael.

[Steve Hilton]

But I'd like to actually respond to something Katie said, and I think it's probably a sincere policy difference between us. She said something very revealing, which is the only way, really, that California's economy has been growing in the last few years is through illegal immigration. And I just don't think that's the right way for us to be growing. I think we need to help small businesses create jobs and opportunity and for Californians to be able to earn more and live the California dream and for entrepreneurs to want to start businesses in California. That's how we should be growing our economy. Not by illegal immigration.

[Congresswoman Katie Porter]

Congresswoman Porter, I mean, given that you're an immigrant and you added to our legal. And we're all having to live with the consequences of that decision.

[Steve Hilton]

Katie, It's. There's a difference, I think you'll accept, between legal and illegal immigration.

[Congresswoman Katie Porter]

Yes. And I wasn't referring to. I was saying that immigration has been a major source of growth in California's economy. And that is true.

[Joe Getty]

I'm booking a room at the Steve Hilton.

[Jack Armstrong]

How dare that fascist give that speech. I didn't actually pay attention to it, but I think he's a Republican. So.

[Joe Getty]

So ye. The fact that she's for free health care for illegals is all I need to know about her.

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She's gracious.

[Joe Getty]

She's lost a lot of weight, though. She's clearly on one of the GOP ones because I saw the you're in my shot video last night again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And. And then her new ad, and she's. God, she's 40 pounds lighter in her new ad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, politicians do that. Just tell them, hey, too Porky. Gotta drop some weight.

[Joe Getty]

That's what the consultant says.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless you're Trump. Yeah, too damn Porky. So there was some. I do enjoy fireworks between Chad Bianco, the LA area sheriff, and Antonio Villagarosa, among others. Let's start with 83, Michael, and go to the next one after that.

[Chad Bianco]

You know, you're an Oath Keeper. We all know that, and I'm very proud of it. Well, you should.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

I'm very proud of it. And guess what? You're gonna swear an oath. And you swore an oath. You should know what you were swearing and be proud of defending it.

[Chad Bianco]

Don't think an Oath Keeper is qualified to be.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

I don't think you know what an Oath Keeper.

[Chad Bianco]

Let me, Let me answer the question. I said if an undocumented person committed murder, they should be held accountable. They should go to jail. And, and you keep on saying that sanctuary prevents violent criminals from.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

No, I didn't. I said it prevents criminals.

[Chad Bianco]

As I said earlier.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

I said it prevents criminals. Don't lie for me.

[Chad Bianco]

In fact, as I said earlier, thousands have been turned over since 2019.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

Obviously not enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then here's where it gets better.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

No one has broken the law in California. And this is why we fight in the streets and people are out rioting, burning down Los Angeles because politicians like this sit and lie to everyone. They, they, they get them because they.

[Jack Armstrong]

You said you're a proud Oath Keeper. Are you referring to the. The group?

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

I have sworn an oath three times to defend my Constitution. Everybody that wants to, like, again, lie and emotionally get all spun up about the Oath Keeper organization. I just would. Before you do that, and I know none of you have, I want you to go read the mission statement of the Oath Keeper mission statement and the.

[Chad Bianco]

I saw them on CNN attacking the

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

Capitol and the aclu. I saw a politician molesting kids. Does that mean you molest kids?

[Jack Armstrong]

What exactly.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

Don't pull those stupid statements out and expect to knock out.

[Chad Bianco]

You have no reason to.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

There is absolute.

[Chad Bianco]

To be governor of California.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

I am extremely proud of swearing an oath to defend my Constitution against politicians like this.

[Jack Armstrong]

And do you still consider yourself a member of that group? To be clear.

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

No.

[Joe Getty]

That was a pretty funny response.

[Jack Armstrong]

What

[Interviewer/Host]

I.

[Joe Getty]

Debates have a habit of this happening. Really good debaters pivot from things that aren't important, like the Oath Keeper saying. Because that way too long a discussion about something that most people are like. I don't even know what that means. You know, it's like when Trump and Biden got off on golf scores.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Lord.

[Joe Getty]

You know, the really disciplined, disciplined debaters always pivot it back to an issue people actually care about, no matter what the question was.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I cited that as the low moment in American history might have been, including, like the Battle of Antietam. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Do you want to know the scores from the California Post for everybody last night?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, actually, yeah, let's bottom line it.

[Joe Getty]

How's each did they thought Javier Becerra had the best night with an A minus. He's the former Secretary of Health and Human Services. He has run like a bigot's budget that you can practically have on planet Earth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, he is an awful, awful Democrat, but he's a skilled politician.

[Joe Getty]

I think the pro. I think he's probably going to be the next governor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think if I had a bit money. Yeah. In some weird compulsory casino. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

They gave Chad Bianco a B plus. Another strong debate performance for him. Steve Hilton got a B. Said he had to dance around questions tying him to the President. I'll bet if he had his choices, he didn't get endorsed by Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah, net negative.

[Joe Getty]

Steyer, B minus. This is his best performance ever, which isn't saying much. Matt Mahan, a C. That's the mayor of San Jose, Antonio Vieirosa got a D. Katie Porter, a D minus.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, get off of my effing grade.

[Joe Getty]

Abysmal performance from a candidate who really needed to do well. She committed political malpractice by bringing up the thing voters don't like about her temperament and then used foul languages as if driving home the point. I don't know if I buy that sort of thing. People seem to like the cussing. It shows how. How much you hate Trump. If you say F Trump. Yeah, I agree. F Trump. It seems to be kind of where we are. I don't like that that's where we are, but I don't think it damages you. I'd say if it's going to hurt you or help you, it helps you more than it hurts you. Be my guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was so excited that Katie Porter was going to come in for kicking there. But no, I agree with you. That's an eye of the beholder problem.

[Joe Getty]

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's written from the perspective of, you know, conservative or moderate conservative on the left, where they are so frothing at the mouth, obsessed with Trump. You know, you do this, I can't put up with it. But if you listen to NPR for half an hour and then Ms. Now for half an hour, you'll think, holy crap. Yeah, I knew they were obsessed, but I didn't know it was this bad.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Katie Porter that's going, she's going for that vote. The primary voter?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I find it abhorrent, but it's not unwise.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think about the whole that ad where at the end she Says now get out of my shot and then laughs. That was a good idea. Why not?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I, I, yeah, I agreed with you when you said it. I thought the, the consultants who steered her in that direction were right and she came off as thoroughly reasonable. She didn't mention that. She will. It's big in being a single mom. She didn't mention why she's a single mom, having attacked her husband with boiling potatoes among other, you know, a snack and side dish foods. The polling rice in my eyes. And then, God dang it, she dumped a boiling hot to medley of spring vegetables down my pants.

[Joe Getty]

The latest polling we had yesterday, unless there's been new polling since then that I haven't seen, it's still the first place person is in the teens. Correct. There's so many candidates and there's so many undecideds that I really think practically anybody could emerge when people start getting out of the race. So it's very, very up. To start talking about who's first and second and if we had the runoff today is really nonsensical.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Especially in a state where the, whoever's the anointed Democrat is almost certainly going to win. And it brings me no pleasure saying. And the most obvious, you know, guy is probably Becerra because he's had big, big offices. He did miserably at them, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's, it's Becerra.

[Joe Getty]

I sure hope we get a Republican and a Democrat to run against each other, at least because people will pay

[Jack Armstrong]

attention at least a little bit. And I would love to hear, and I think Steve Hilton's more likely than Chad Bianco, but, you know, to each their own. I would love to hear that discussion. Just it would help at least to inch the electorate back toward reasonableness. Maybe.

[Joe Getty]

We're going to take a break. I just saw a headline in the Los Angeles Times. California's biggest cities are heading in opposite directions. Why L. A is struggling while San Francisco is beginning a new life. There's no doubt about that. If you haven't been to San Francisco in the last two years or so, it's completely different than it was before. Policy matters, which was part of the point of the debate last night from the Steve Hilton side, For instance, does

[Jack Armstrong]

LA have a 2,000pound sea lion? No. No, they don't.

[Joe Getty]

What's his name?

[Jack Armstrong]

Chonkers.

[Joe Getty]

Chonkers Chunk is still hanging around.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a thick boy.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet Chonkers goes on the GPL ones.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no, oh, he's all been totally into whole the whole fat acceptance thing. Then he's gonna flip and all of his followers are gonna hate him for it. Right?

[Joe Getty]

But he'll be. He'll have a six pack or a 50 pack. I don't know how many abs they have.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus he'll have to get a hide tuck as well. Oh yeah, he loses the weight too quickly.

[Joe Getty]

Saggy skin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it happens.

[Joe Getty]

We got more on the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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And everyday Americans are struggling to make ends meet. Which means it's the perfect time for the Met Gala, the annual event when Americans come together to watch the richest people wear the most expensive clothes that make you say, what? That's crazy. The dress code this year was fashion is art, which is nice, but a little predictable. It's always fashion this and fashion that. Maybe just one year could be something cool like big rig trucks.

[Joe Getty]

Um, I want to replay something we played earlier in the show. We were talking about what a great job Marco Rubio did yesterday doing the White House press conference. I really liked what he said had to say about the United States. And I just came across this Rich Lowry of the National Review, who I really like, retweeted the whole this may be the most articulate response I've ever heard to this question Mark, who was asked basically, what's good about America was in this time. What hope do you have for America with that whole, you know, clearly we suck attitude that the media has, and

[Jack Armstrong]

these are the hardest times ever.

[Joe Getty]

And I want to play this just because I want to memorize some of these phrases for when it comes up with, you know, my argument, my son's history teacher or whatever. Here's Marco Rubio from yesterday My hope

[Marco Rubio]

for America and deal with that. Yeah, look, I mean, my hope for America is what it's always been. I think it's the hope I hope we all share. We want it to continue to be the place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything, where you're not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the color of your skin, by your ethnicity. But frankly, it's a place where you are able to overcome challenges and achieve your full potential. I think that should be the goal of every country in the world, frankly. But I think in the US we're not perfect. Our history is not one of perfection, but it's still better than anybody else's history. And ours is a story of perpetual improvement. Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer, more prosperous, safer, and that is our goal as well. But it is a unique and exceptional country. And as we come upon this 250 year anniversary, I think we have a lot to learn and be proud of in our history. It is one of perpetual and continuous improvement, where each generation has done its part to bring us closer to fulfilling the vision that the founders of this country had upon its foundation.

[Joe Getty]

That would be impressive if it was written that was his extemporaneous answer to that question. And that might be the most articulate answer I've ever heard to that sort of question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Certainly off the cuff. Yeah, it was absolutely brilliantly structured and everything.

[Joe Getty]

The.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those who would tear down this country and Western civilization in general would deny a lot of that. But they have to deny it because

[Joe Getty]

you couldn't with any facts to back it up, though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no, no. That's why they lie so much and how they twist or, you know, history being as vast as it is, if you pick, you know, this 2% of the things that have happened and act like that's really the whole story. You can, you can come up with any story you want. You can exaggerate is this is a horrible country.

[Joe Getty]

That's why I really like the part where he said, certainly better than any other country's history. That's the part I really like because, yeah, exaggerate our flaws all you want, make them 10 times worse than they are. Still better than Great Britain, France, what country you're going to hold up and use as an example whose history is better than the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Because everybody's got that sort of sordid past, only worse and longer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. The one thing people have to understand is that the Marxists lie. They lie a lot because they rely on you. Assuming they have good intentions and you're trying to like discuss something and get to the truth. But they're not. To quote James Lindsay for Marxist dialogue is not a way of attaining truth. It's a form for manipulation. So they manipulate history and they lie and just we let them into the schools. Oh well.

[Joe Getty]

So as I said, from here to July 4th, I'm going to do nothing but founding nonfiction books. I'm into the new John Adams book and really, really good stuff. But I had a friend, he was super into history. I remember asking him years ago the classic question, what do you think the founders would say if they were brought back today? And his answer was probably right. Good God, I can't believe it worked that it's still going after all this time. They would probably be shocked and happily so.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a good point.

[Joe Getty]

We got a lot more on the way.

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take a look at that video I just sent you of a pitch Shohei Otani threw last night for the Dodgers. The guy swung at it, which means it looked like a strike to him as it was coming toward him. That was a Jose Altuve who's won a couple of World Series himself. So not a bad hitter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's a bit of a free swinger, but good God, look at that pitch. That was like five feet off the plate.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it must not have looked like that when it was coming. Anyway, Shohei Ohtani of the Dodgers was named Pitcher of the Month in the National League because he's the best pitcher in the National League and the most feared hitter in baseball. Which is just ridiculous. Shouldn't happen at the same time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's crazy. So I'm trying to figure out if we have time for this. Why not? It's funny. Awareness is good. I think solving problems starts with awareness, even if they're giant societal problems. Came across one really interesting book review about this gal. Frya India is her name, tells the story of how girls her age, she's a Gen Z er, were transformed by the modern world into products for consumption shaped by social media, beauty, filters, big tech. She says young women in particular are starting to see themselves as something more and more like products rather than people. They're growing up seeing themselves as basically nothing but an object in a marketplace. And the goal of their life is to optimize themselves for the market, to package up their experiences, and then to be rated and reviewed by people online. Her book explores all these different areas of girls lives. How they look, how they feel, their relationships, and how they feel about the future. She said, I found there was so much in modern life that was magnifying these normal anxieties and more than that, exploiting them for profit. That makes really good sense to me. I've known a handful of young women who are super online and super Instagram and curating their feed and getting dolled up and stuff like that. And you, you are in essence a product. I mean, I. I understand, I get it intuitively, because we're a product. I'd like to think our product is, you know, fairly thoughtful discussion of what's happening in the world. But I understand that I am a product. I don't think adolescent girls who are desperate for approval understand that that's what they've become. Sounds pretty insightful to me.

[Joe Getty]

So hard for me to get in that headspace because I've never been a girl and I haven't been a teenager for a very, very long time. But it doesn't surprise me that the way all of our communication and social media is built, that that could happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, it makes really good intuitive sense. What is the name of this book? I was gonna say because I. I hear mothers and dads of adolescent and young adult women saying, what the hell is the title? I need to get it.

[Joe Getty]

Moby Dick.

[Jack Armstrong]

Moby Dick is correct. Yeah. Oh. Oh, it's girls with an R as in a trademark. Okay. Simply clever. Yeah. And then I came across this. I'm sorry, I shouldn't be laughing, but I am. A survey of 2,000Americans found that one in three say they're currently experiencing an existential crisis.

[Joe Getty]

So does that mean you think you're gonna die? What's an existential crisis for a person?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, see, that's the problem. If you don't Agree on a definition then that's why social, you know, issue polling could be so ridiculous. Gen Z leads all generations. Slightly over half of Gen Zers say I'm in the middle of an existential crisis.

[Joe Getty]

What? Yeah, seems a little high.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's hilariously high. But I think we need to put aside our hilarity just for the moment. Stressful was the most common word Americans used to describe 2026 so far. 35% said that's the number one word I would use. And respondents said they've already absorbed an average.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Well, how would you describe 2026 so far? We're into May. I don't know if I would have a description. Same as different day.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what I would probably being a quibbler, say, you want me to reduce all of my experiences in the last four and a half months to a single word? No, about what I expected.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what to tell you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ups and downs. That's three words. Deal with it. Let's see. Respondents say they've already absorbed an average of two major unplanned life changes this year. Now, if you're 23, I can just say stuff like that.

[Joe Getty]

Major unplanned life changes in five months.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's correct.

[Joe Getty]

As a 23 year old.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although you pretty much had to lose

[Joe Getty]

a limb and get pregnant to pull that off.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know, but that's. See, that's the problem again, it's a lack of a definition. Definition of terms. Not Boghossian. Or was it Boghossian height? Whoever wrote a couple of those absolutely wonderful books about how we're teaching kids to do the opposite of what cognitive behavioral therapy teaches them, which is to understand their thought patterns and stuff like that. We're teaching youngsters to catastrophize everything. The slightest setback is a. What was that? Major unplanned life change.

[Joe Getty]

So the. So one of the major unplanned life changes, particularly for a woman, is when Uggs, the style for Uggs, went out from calf high to ankle high and you realized you had to get a new pair of Uggs. That's one of the major unplanned life changes and existential threats.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's see, financial pressure is a dominant driver across all age groups, with a separate survey finding that 87% of Americans believe the country is in an affordability crisis and half struggle to pay basic bills. Well, I'm not surprised by that, given the rampant inflation unleashed by the Biden administration and not. Not helped very much by the Trump administration. In fairness, despite widespread anxiety, 79% of Americans say they're planning some kind of mid year reset. Nearly a third say 2026 has gone better than expected. Okay, so I don't know. There's some amusement there, but not a lot of information. And then I came across this, and it's long. Derek Thompson writes about trends and economics and polls and stuff like that. Really interesting writer. He's got a substack like everybody. But his title is America's so Rich. How did it get so sad? And he goes into stuff we've talked about a lot. You know, poll results saying people are feeling worse and worse and more and more pessimistic. But then if you go to an economist and you look at people's standards of living and actual buying power and that sort of stuff, it's not that bad. Inflation is scary, though. I do not poo poo people being freaked out by inflation.

[Joe Getty]

No, we got into this too much last week. I don't want to get into it again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Take whatever you've got saved up and change it into $2,000 and get an idea of inflation and how much less it is than you think it is. Yeah, it's scary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The government stole 30% of your savings anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Is it possible that we as a society forever had. As soon as I get this, I'll be happy. And then we all got this, whatever this is, and we realized we're. Oh, that wasn't fulfilling. What a bummer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that what's happening?

[Joe Getty]

It's probably part of the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. We're an enormously consumerist society. Sure. Yeah. But he points out that the US has fallen to its lowest rank ever in the world happiness report, largely due to the astonishingly swift decline in well being among young people in that international survey, which is, which is awful. And he asks who killed the vibes?

[Joe Getty]

I would say I got two teenagers and they're unhappy more than they should be given their lifestyle. I would definitely say. I mean, if they had to live the life my dad left led. Just go back, you know, generation before me, compared to what that was, you know, a school in manual labor through your entire teen years and no stuff. Zero stuff. Zero stuff, zero entertainment, just schoolwork and physical labor, would you still be as like, meh as you are today? Probably not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why doesn't every human being know why wasn't I taught earlier? I don't know. My parents were wonderful. But why wasn't I taught earlier? That unrealistic expectations are an utter murderer of joy and they cause you to ignore everything that's good. And comparison with other people is the thief of joy. Everybody should know that. Like they know, you know, I don't know. Early to bed, early to rise. Ben Franklin probably had a good one of those, but it didn't rhyme, so nobody remembers it. But, but I don't know. So anyway, this guy's trying to figure out what is it? Because Covid was terrible, terrible in a lot of ways and ruined people's moods, but we should have bounced back. And, and he says it's probably not a cultural, big cultural shift like the decline of religion, because that's been going on for decades now. It's probably not about old fashioned wage inequality. And he cites the statistics. It's probably not just about phones and social media. It's part of it, but. And then he says his third section of this article is the permademic. The pandemic never ended. Part one. The sheer. He uses the S word poopiness of inflation. Yeah, yeah. So the pandemic going into rampant inflation, then you've got the smartphone world. And I think, and I'm not sure, I don't think he gets. Well, this is very, very long. I'm trying desperately to summarize. But he also gets to what we were talking about. I guess it was last hour that you are, you're constantly a target of politics and you never get political change or contributions or enthusiasm unless you can convince people that they are getting screwed and that change has to happen. Or if you're the party in power, that if the other guys get power, you will be royally screwed and you'll wish that change hadn't happened. So in an era of everybody obsessed with politics every day of their lives, the most powerful forces in our society are constantly selling misery because that's the only way they can get your attention, your votes and your money. I think that's a huge part of it.

[Joe Getty]

So what going back to the beginning, what percentage of people say that they've experienced an existential threat or are living

[Jack Armstrong]

under one or they that study. A third of people say they're currently experiencing an existential crisis.

[Joe Getty]

So I asked Claude what that would mean when you're talking about a person. It said literally it's a threat to your life or survival. Serious illness, violence, severe poverty, or anything that could end their existence. But the phrase often gets used loosely too. For, especially for young people like this deadline is an existential threat to my sanity. It's hyperbole for something that just feels overwhelming. Good God, if we're going to use I'm dying for when I feel somewhat overwhelmed, it's going to be hard to have conversations.

[Jack Armstrong]

It reminds me of Louis CK's bit about the word literally. Yeah. I'm literally starving. No, you're not.

[Joe Getty]

I like this psychological or philosophical sense. A threat to the foundations of who they are. Their sense of meaning, purpose, identity or place in the world. That's probably what people mean. Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

I could believe that. Particularly because it was gen Z that 52% of them say they're currently undergoing a. Can you repeat that?

[Joe Getty]

A threat to their sense of meaning, purpose, identity or place in the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah. As a young person.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Especially with the pace.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what it's like to be a teenager with the tick tock pace brain. It was rough enough at the slow pace brain.

[Marco Rubio]

They're insane in the brain.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Marco.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you. Mr. Secretary, National Security Advisor, DJ, et cetera. Press. Press Secretary yesterday. Fill in.

[Joe Getty]

I bet we don't understand the sense of time that teenagers have if we didn't live it ourselves. We all know time speeds up when you get older and that whole thing, but what's there, you know, with just. With the tick tock, everything's fast and short.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. That's a factor for sure.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus, and again, being a drama queen is part of being young. I have no problem. I'm not going to criticize youngsters for that because it was pointed out to me, you know, a kid will say I've never been in this. I've never been this in love. Because you haven't.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So fair enough.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I was about to go off on a tangent when my son says about the pickings of teenage girls and what they all think and believe, but I don't know if he's right or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

You piqued my curiosity.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he certainly could be right. Based on a lot of what I've read, we're going through a weird period. I wouldn't. You know, I wouldn't. I don't know. I was about to say I wouldn't want to be younger than I am. I suppose if I could sign down on a piece of paper and actually be younger than I might probably sign up for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But if Satan's listening, I'll give you my home address. You can stop by. I'll sign the paperwork today.

[Joe Getty]

I guess a more accurate, ready way to phrase it would be I wouldn't want to have lived my life during now as opposed to when I did if I had to choose between the two.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yep, I hear you.

[Joe Getty]

We'll finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

through my notes, things that I didn't get to yet trying to figure out this thing I want to jam in here but I got we talk about I don't want to do it now, but maybe tomorrow we need to talk about U.S. military deaths people bring up how many soldiers we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tiny percentage compared to suicides. Why this isn't more of a topic, I do not know. It's amazing. Started on that because somebody friend of mine was calling the VA hospital. He said if you're committed thinking of committing suicide, press this number and someone will get back to you. And their response was like whoa, so there's not a live person there. You'll take my information and somebody will call me eventually. All the money we spend in the Pentagon budget, we can't have a human being to answer the phone when somebody says yeah, I'm thinking I kill myself was a veteran with the number of devs we've had I don't like that. Anywho, we will talk more about that tomorrow. Nick Fuentes, the world's most America's most famous Nazi anyway, confirmed that he is now a moderate Democrat yesterday calling for President Trump to be impeached once the GOP to be destroyed. And he admitted that he's never cared about immigration. He just went along with it to get Trump elected. His sole litmus test is the hatred of Israel and the Democrats are closer to where he is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, so he's just an old fashioned Jew hating fascist.

[Joe Getty]

Well what if you're the Democratic Party and you got Nick Fuentes, the most famous Nazi in America saying yeah I'm becoming a Democrat because you're a lot closer to where I am. And it's very provable that he's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Look at your college campuses. Nick Fuentes could have been on the campus at Columbia University that have been carrying him around on their shoulders.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. All he had to do is trim his rhetoric a little bit in significant ways. Yeah, I got all sorts of headlines about anti Semitic attacks in the US Reached a record high last year. Not surprisingly, it'll be broken this year. It's 1936 again.

[Joe Getty]

They ain't got much to give you.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're gonna give me what they got.

[Joe Getty]

This rule of four hour workday's about over. It's time for final thoughts. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's count them. Final thoughts from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. Michelangelo in the control room. Michael, what's your final thought? I have a question. Will gas prices actually go back to normal or will they just lower them just enough so we don't complain and

[Antonio Villaraigosa]

keep a little extra profit?

[Joe Getty]

You can't do shrinkflation with gallons of gas like you can with boxes of Raisin Bran or M and M's prices

[Jack Armstrong]

are stickier on the way down than the way up. Michael, it's absolutely true. Jack, did you have a final thought for us?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. What is it about pizza? What's the unique quality pizza has that you can just continue to eat it until you think you should stop? Other foods you get full of and like, you just. You're full and you have to stop. But pizza doesn't work that way for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Said many times, I only stop eating pizza because I'm ashamed and I realize people are looking at me or the

[Joe Getty]

box is empty, but never because you, like, need to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my gosh, it's a fight. It's the perfect food. A little sweet, a little savory, a little acidic, a little milky. It's just. It's everything. You're going to hold it in your.

[Joe Getty]

Hold it in your hand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yes. It's proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Speaking of which, I. I really need to get the planning started on my Jo Getty basicitarian community. We're going to get away from most of the modern world and have actual friends and civic organizations and go play sports together and stuff like that. Get her out of our houses and put down our freaking phones.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I get to have sex with all the young women.

[Joe Getty]

It's usually a part of those things.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just going along right? I kid so many people to thank. We'll see you tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty thanks for listening to the Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

We're done for the day and you won't have to pay for the bad guys cause it's free.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Don't miss a thing. It's called Armstrong and Getty on demand. You made it rhyme louder than it's rhyme in a long time.

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