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- [00:02]
Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
- [00:24]
Joe Getty
The cheapest super bowl tickets are listed for $5,000. The cheapest, the most expensive ones are going for half a million. Right now. Fans are asking themselves, should I buy two super bowl tickets or a dozen eggs? I've never been to a Super Bowl. You'd think I would go during this run of the Kansas City Chiefs, a team I've rooted for most of my life, but I have not. I don't know if I need that experience in my life. Actually.
- [00:51]
Jack Armstrong
There's part of me that would be curious to see it. Yeah, just the whole process of it.
- [00:57]
Joe Getty
Exactly.
- [00:58]
Jack Armstrong
The game. And just as an observer, not as a football fan.
- [01:01]
Joe Getty
No, no, no. If I want to watch a game, that's probably not the best way to do it. But yeah, it would be. And it'd be fun to talk about on the radio all the things you see and experience. But that's a lot of money, I guess. Hotels are insane and in addition to the ticket, all that sort of stuff. So do you know who Selena Gomez is? She was a Disney star then she was in some of those kids shows on Nickelodeon and then she became a grown up actress, singer and now she's star of a kind of a cult favorite only Murders in the Building with Steve Martin and Martin Short. Very good show. Very, very entertaining program.
- [01:37]
Jack Armstrong
I enjoy it a great deal. It's just the right mood. At the end of the day, she.
- [01:41]
Joe Getty
Is also a person of. She's a Latinx with an ex.
- [01:47]
Jack Armstrong
Wow. We can't be friends anymore. But go on.
- [01:53]
Joe Getty
And she posted this video. I don't know how easy it's going to be to understand her. I saw it with like caption because she's crying so hard. It's a little hard to understand it, but here you go.
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Selena Gomez
Just want to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. Children. I don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don. Know what to do. I'll try everything, I promise.
- [02:32]
Joe Getty
This is all around Trump's evil racist rounding up of children and adults and purging anyone who's not white in America as she sees it, I guess before, before we.
- [02:41]
Jack Armstrong
The scenes of Trump's police dogs rounding up kindergarteners is shocking to the conscience. Oh, that's right. It's just adults, criminals and fairly least serious ones being rounded up.
- [02:51]
Joe Getty
Before we ruin the beating up on Selena Gomez portion of this, we'll get to to Holman, who's running this whole operation for Trump, and him responding directly to Selena Gomez because she has 4 million Twitter followers or TikTok followers or whatever. She's got gazillions of people following her. So he wanted to respond.
- [03:09]
Tom Homan
We got quarter million Americans dead from fennel across the open border. Where's the tears for them? I met with hundreds of angels, moms and dads who are separated from their children because they buried them, because they're killed by illegal alien. We got a half a million children were sex trafficked into this country, put separated from their families, put in the hands of criminal cars, cartels to be smuggled in the country. This administration can't find over 300,000 worsted tears for them.
- [03:35]
Joe Getty
So. Well, there's two things to Selena Gomez specifically, and I don't know really anything about her other than she did a big special about her bipolar problems she's had throughout her life. And she is bipolar. And that video was taken down shortly after she posted it, though it went viral and spread around really fast. So who knows where she is with her mental illness on that.
- [03:58]
Jack Armstrong
I, I have no need, nor take any delight in beating up on an individual young woman for her silly, tearful political beliefs, especially if she has mental illness.
- [04:12]
Joe Getty
Yes, I've got. We got mental illness in our family, and sometimes people have really, really rough days about all kinds of different stuff. And you criticize it all you want, it's got nothing to do with what's going on in their brain. But her point of view is echoed by many, many people across the country. Right.
- [04:30]
Jack Armstrong
I am more than willing to take on the ideas. And I think Mr. Homan's reply was absolutely appropriate. Leaving poor little Selena Gomez out of this. I mean, who cares? Just let's take on the ideas. He's absolutely right. The cost, not only the material cost, but the human costs of allowing whoever wants to sneak into the country in has been absolutely horrific. Horrific. And as I pointed out yesterday, and we'll point out, until this is done, and it never will be, the number of future victims that have been prevented by the heaving of these few thousand, soon to be many thousand criminals out of our country is a victory for humanity. It is a wonderful, wonderful thing. And to put your focus on the discomfort of some of the people involved, once again, the Biden administration and their adherence to their crazy policies have created an enormous mess. And those of us in favor of cleaning it up are Tired of you saying your broom is leaving marks in my floor. Yeah, we're cleaning up a horrible mess.
- [05:43]
Joe Getty
Here's Sam Olson with Chicago ice.
- [05:46]
Sam Olson
It's kind of an arduous process. Right. We're in a difficult situation here in Chicago because a lot of the targets that we're looking at were previously arrested by local or state authorities and we've placed holds on many of them and they were released from the facility into the communities again. So we have to go through, you know, spend a lot of hours researching where they're living and then actually go out into their environment to try to arrest them.
- [06:14]
Joe Getty
Yeah, where's the one? Maybe this is the report that I saw on NBC News I thought was really interesting. Yeah, go with 55, Michael. Then I have a point to make.
- [06:25]
NBC News Reporter
President Trump's promised crackdown on illegal immigration is underway. When we arrive at a tire shop, 25 year old Christopher Lotta is arrested outside. I says he has a criminal record including home improvement, invasion and aggravated battery. Agents lead him away in handcuffs. He denies the charges against him. Facing possible deportation to Mexico. He also says he'd leave behind a five year old daughter.
- [06:48]
Joe Getty
He does have serious charges and convictions, so I understand he has a daughter and that's unfortunate. But we still have a job to do and we still have to follow the law. The thing that really grabbed me in that report actually is after that when they start talking about how many cops and ICE agents were required to get this one guy and how, how much money it costs, how much manpower it takes. Because as we keep saying, you allowed this to happen. And now the unwinding of it is really, really difficult.
- [07:22]
Jack Armstrong
And you're making it more difficult because instead of the ice ages simply going to the jail and the moment this guy's released, taking him into custody, safer for them, safer for the illegal immigrant, safer for the family, safer for the community. Better, no? To signal your perverse virtue, you turn them loose and make us, the US track him down again. That's idiotic. So here is, and I'm sorry, there's a certain soft headedness among people who all they can recognize as quote, unquote. The unfortunate thing is the latest thing. That five year old girl's main problem is her dad is a criminal. Her main problem isn't that her dad's gonna be deported. I mean, that's a problem and it's too bad. But why is that happening? Because Trump is mean? No, because her dad's a blanking criminal.
- [08:16]
Joe Getty
Uh, so I heard somebody make this point the other Day. I wish I could remember who it was. Might have been Eli Lake on a podcast, whatever. I thought this was really good, though, because there's a lot of Trump's campaign and then winning and then his inaugural address and then some of the things he said last week and everything. And it was the criticism from the anti Trump crowd about how dark he is and his dark view of America and the darkness around this and just so dark and everything like that. And the point that for I don't know what percentage of the country, half the country, the left, they don't understand. Yeah, it has seemed pretty dark to a lot of us when we hear about somebody being raped or killed, a child, whoever, by an illegal who had been captured many times and let go. That's a pretty dark world we're living in where kids are allowed to be mutilated by doctors to change their sex and the school hides it. That's a pretty dark world we're living in. Having to go to work and sit through a lecture where you're called a racist is fairly freaking dark. There's a lot of really dark things that have been going on in the last several years and that's how we feel. So, yeah, if it's kind of a dark view, there's a reason for that.
- [09:38]
Jack Armstrong
Well, I would content myself with the knowledge that the vast majority of America is with you and it's only a handful of the chattering classes and the so called intelligentsia who aren't. And I'm certainly hoping the wave drowns them, ideologically speaking.
- [09:52]
Joe Getty
I just thought that was such a great point. The, the walking down the street of your town. If you live in certain towns with all the drug addicts laying everywhere, that's a pretty dystopian dark world that didn't exist at all.
- [10:07]
Jack Armstrong
You got to huddle your children close to you and cross the street to avoid the crazed junkies. Yeah, that's fairly dark.
- [10:12]
Joe Getty
Didn't used to be that way. That's kind of a dark existence. So, yeah, if a guy comes along talking about how dark it is and people willingly vote for him, it's because of that stuff.
- [10:23]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, he's not wrong. You are. And what was the other thing? Oh, it's a great example of the protected in the unprotected classes, the, the rich intelligentsia on their college campuses. They've created their little worlds. They're unaffected by this. But I do want to get back to the psychology of not Selena Gomez in particular, but that sort of video, the weeping online video and Dissect that a little bit. I think you'll find it interesting.
- [10:49]
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. What. What a fascinating phenomenon. And I wonder how long it's gonna be in our lives. That and other stuff on the way.
- [10:57]
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
- [11:01]
Selena Gomez
I just want to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The children.
- [11:14]
Jack Armstrong
All right, this is not about wrestling with Selena Gomez, who's a troubled young woman. What about the phenomenon of the weeping young woman posting some heartfelt political screed?
- [11:25]
Joe Getty
Am I wrong? Before you explain this, that in the olden times, like prior to five years ago, mostly crying emotionally was something you tried to not do publicly. Like you. You really tried to keep it together publicly. Even funerals, usually people would try to keep it together for whatever reason. It was. I don't want to say embarrassing, but it was private.
- [11:51]
Jack Armstrong
Yes. Yeah. On the main, sure, with some exceptions, but. And there were a couple of comments to this that I thought were interesting and opened up a much more interesting can of worms than Porcelain Agomez and her mental health. One person asked, why would anyone deliberately shoot video of themselves weeping and then share that video with millions of strangers? It's bizarre and debasing behavior and should be treated as abnormal and unhealthy, and yet it's considered entirely normal. And I thought, yeah, that is true. But then I came across another comment, a set of comments that I thought were really intriguing. And this person writes, no aspect of women's behavior on social media is going to make sense until you realize two things. And as always, there are many perfectly sane, strong, great American women listening to the show. And we salute you. And you're not. We're not putting you with these people, believe me. But this guy points out a couple of things. Number one, for women, the appearance of vulnerability is status enhancing. They get positive feedback, they get nurturing, they get caring, they get attention. By appearing vulnerable to. For women, the appearance of compassion is status enhancing. Same thing. Thus, women who play status games online will simultaneously insist that they are under constant threat of, let's say, rape by purely theoretical criminals every time they step out the door. But also that actual criminals must, on no count, be punished, on no account be punished, because they were underprivileged and couldn't help themselves, the poor deers. The meaning of both of these ideas is really just quote, I am very feminine and therefore precious, and you should all pay attention to me. And. And he gets it. It's a little long, but he gets into the. The paradox of the progressive point of view that he touches on the need to display performative compassion while displaying performative vulnerability forces a very interesting sort of mental gymnastics among women who play this game. They must tell us constantly, and he uses rape as an example. They must tell us constantly that rapists are everywhere and they are in constant danger. But the actual men who rape almost universally have one thing in common. They are not society's most preferred. They are bums and junkies. Many poor, many black, brown, many in the country illegally uneducated, have rap sheets. Maybe they speak English, maybe they don't. They come from undesirable dip with dip zip codes. They are the unemployed and the unemployable. They are mentally ill and emotionally unstable. And usually they're more than one of these things. I would say statistically speaking, yes. The problem is that right there is a laundry list of people who are socially unsafe for women to criticize because the narrative is that they are failing to thrive because of oppression by those who are thriving instead of because they lack the IQ score, they lack the sanity, or they lack the life skills to get their crap together.
- [14:57]
Joe Getty
Or some people are just bad.
- [14:59]
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're unbalanced. So the compassion signaling would get in the way of the vulnerability signaling and the vulnerability signaling would get in the way of the compassion signaling. Unless. Unless a shell game can be performed where the blame for male on female rape is shifted to those least likely to commit it. High status, well socialized, educated men, typically white or East Asian. And so the notion is spread that rape is committed by high status, well socialized men out of an attitude of entitlement rather than beside society's antisocial outsiders, etc. Etc. And that's not to claim for a single second that the aforementioned high status people never commit rape. That would be a silly thing to assert, but you get the conundrum he's. He's describing there. It reminds me of the constant howling about gun laws and then utter refusal to enforce them because those charges mostly go against people of color. And this is racist. Which one is it? Left America. Just let us know when you figure that out.
- [16:04]
Joe Getty
There's also the. Didn't last very long, I don't think. But in some quarters, especially on university campuses, there was this idea, which is insane, that if someone is upset, you did something wrong. By definition, if someone is offended, you did something offensive. Look, you did something offensive. Look, they're offended. Without, we believe the victims, without any judgment as to whether or not maybe they're a little too precious about this issue.
- [16:41]
Jack Armstrong
Right. And think of how that rearranges the power when if I say it was racist to me, it is racist. Therefore you are racist in all cases, which is what the DEI crowd and the critical race theory and the Black Lives Matter people were, were claiming. Think about how that arranges the power economy. You know, dynamics.
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Joe Getty
Well, it makes it impossible to function as a society is what it does. The doomsday clock has been moved the closest to midnight it ever has been, among other things.
- [17:10]
Jack Armstrong
We're going to talk about Stay tun, Armstrong and Getty.
- [17:15]
Joe Getty
I haven't heard this yet. This is a teacher talking about homework and how she doesn't give much homework. Maybe we can discuss this.
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Teacher
A lot of people coming at me, other teachers, for saying that I'm not doing my job because I'm not assigning homework. But there's no proof that homework is going to make them better. Students in my class, I respect their time outside of class. They work hard for me all day. They don't need to go home and do more homework because if they do it at home, it does not show me mastery. It's extra practice, sure, but not practice if they're doing it wrong, it's not good practice if they're cheating, it's not good practice if they're having someone else do it. Most of my students are high schoolers. They have jobs, they have sports, they're in practice, they're in band. Some of them are going home and taking care of their younger siblings because their parents are at work. So if I also give them hours of homework, when do they have time to be kids?
- [18:00]
Joe Getty
Hmm, that's an interesting topic right there. The homework, yes or no. And then how much? Yes or no?
- [18:08]
Jack Armstrong
Well, exactly. There's a bit of a false dichotomy thing there. If I give them hours of homework, how are they going to be? Well, how about if you just give them a little to reinforce what they've learned or do a little independent reading or whatever. It's, you know, it's a question of degree.
- [18:22]
Joe Getty
I don't know the answer on this. I've. With a couple of kids, I've seen different philosophies from different teachers, from none to a lot. I certainly remember as a kid doing homework sometimes and just. It just, it like seemed like being in a salt mine. I'm doing my 900th, you know, two digit multiplication. Is this. Yeah. Is this necessarily. I like their point there. If you're doing it wrong, you're. All you're doing is practicing doing it wrong. But I don't know what the right answer is on that. I do think there at various times in our education system, maybe now, I don't know, there has been kind of a philosophy that just doing homework work automatically is a good thing. And that's clearly not true. Sometimes it's just busy work.
- [19:12]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I, I have a couple of opposing thoughts. Number one, how many people walk around saying the American education system is too rigorous, the kids are learning too much?
- [19:20]
Joe Getty
Right.
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Jack Armstrong
Here's the opposing thought though, is the reason they have to assign so much homework is because it is so unproductive in class because of out of control behavior. Thanks to restorative justice Neo Marxist garbage. Because of the number of non English speakers in the class. Because the amount of time they're spending trying to convince the little girls who are afraid of puberty that they're actually little boys not to take powerful hormones. Is that why they have to do so much homework?
- [19:49]
Joe Getty
Too many assembles during pride assemblies during Pride Month. Too many assemblies discussing restorative justice. I've seen all this.
- [19:59]
Jack Armstrong
BLM rallies during the day, permission to leave class to go march, whatever.
- [20:05]
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. But I did say to, this is my line. Line I use a lot. Henry had a bunch of homework to do. I said, you know who else is complaining? What other kid is complaining about their homework tonight? Every other kid in America.
- [20:21]
Jack Armstrong
Exactly. You're not the only one that said the government school system is one of several things that really needs to be torn down to the studs and rebuilt. It is so perverse. Like all bureaucracies become, they just, they cease to be about pursuing the aims of the bureaucracy. They become about protecting the bureaucracy. That's the iron law of bureaucracy. And America's government schools are a shining example of it.
- [20:49]
Joe Getty
Coming up, the doomsday clock has been moved closer to midnight that which is the the world destroying itself than it has ever been. And kind of fits in with a couple of the stories of the day about China and Trump wanting to build an iron dome here in the United States. So we'll get to that next segment.
- [21:08]
Jack Armstrong
Need to set a doomsday alarm so I don't, you know, forget, you know, I'm walking around the house and realize, oh my God, is it, is it Tuesday? Oh my God, it's doomsday. Oh crap. I better call and tell him I'm going to be late. I hope I don't get charged.
- [21:22]
Joe Getty
So I talked about since dry January is coming to a close this week and I know a few people who are anticipating the weekend Having gone through dry January, looking forward to it. I did talk about no wine February with my son last night. That's wine with an H. I'm. We're going to try that. He liked the idea of it, and I like the idea of it. We both realize we can't do it. It would be impossible. Be like an alcoholic doing dry January. It's just not possible to make it the whole month. No wine February. But we're going to. We're going to give it a whirl and we're going to police each other to a certain extent.
- [21:55]
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so. And you've come up with a working definition of what is whining as opposed to legitimate expression?
- [22:02]
Joe Getty
It's like pornography. You'll know it when you see it.
- [22:04]
Jack Armstrong
Okay, all right.
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Joe Getty
Like, what would you consider not whining a legitimate.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, goodness. Yeah, we're going to have a brainstorm thon here. Okay.
- [22:15]
Joe Getty
What's clearly whining.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God.
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Joe Getty
Does it have to be. I wasn't thinking about the tone of voice that's usually. Do you have to use that tone of voice for it to be whining?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, I just. I don't have easy answers to this. I think it's a really interesting question.
- [22:34]
Joe Getty
But isn't it a lot like pornography, though? I feel like I know it when I'm doing it. If, you know, if somebody stopped me, was what you're doing just there never whining? I would either say yes or no. I think I would know. Or a legitimate gripe.
- [22:49]
Jack Armstrong
If you. I know. I'm trying to come up with scenarios that would make sense to you and your life. But if you call home and say to your son, hey, can you take the ground beef out of the freezer? I need to make hamburgers tonight, and blah, blah. He says, yeah, yeah, okay. And then he doesn't take them out of the freezer. If you get home and say, now we have nothing to eat, because I can't. That's clearly not whining.
- [23:11]
Joe Getty
No, not at all.
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Jack Armstrong
If he says hamburgers, why can't we ever go out? Oh, that's actual whining. I prejudiced the discussion.
- [23:19]
Joe Getty
My kids stop whining. My kids are the opposite. Which makes me feel horrible. This is my biggest failure as a single parent is the whole eating thing. Henry said to my me last night, you never cook anything. We always eat out. And I just. I know. I said, I'll make the one thing I know how to make. I really should do better. It's a time thing.
- [23:40]
Jack Armstrong
Write Your harsh and derisive emails to.
- [23:42]
Joe Getty
Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.Com and make sure they're harsh and derisive both.
- [23:47]
Jack Armstrong
Right. Don't waste our time.
- [23:48]
Joe Getty
No, I'm not going to read if it's only harsh but not derisive. Stop whining on the no wine February. Katie, you had a comment on that?
- [23:55]
Katie
Oh, I need. I. I want. I was whining, like a little, you know what, the other day about having to go to the dentist, I actually, out loud, looked at Drew and went, I don't want to go.
- [24:05]
Joe Getty
Welcome to the latch. Whining has one function of whining, is not accepting reality. I feel like. Isn't that part of whining? Because the example I was having in my head is my regular whining. Like, I get off the phone with this stupid automated system at the pharmacy. I can't. Damn it. They die. We're trying to reorder a truck, and it won't. I feel like that's whining even though I'm young.
- [24:34]
Jack Armstrong
Maybe it gets back to the thought that you introduced on the show. If a problem cannot be solved, it's not a problem. It's a fact.
- [24:41]
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. And the fact is I need to figure out a way to deal with the stupid automated system that doesn't work.
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Katie
Yeah, you. You yine. You yell, whine.
- [24:50]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, he's a yiner. Hey, speaking of dentists, Katie, just. I don't know, maybe there's a dentist listening who could advise me on this. Is there an actual law that says the hygienist has to talk every blanking second?
- [25:08]
Katie
Must be, you know, I think so.
- [25:11]
Jack Armstrong
It's funny some people. Well, go ahead.
- [25:13]
Joe Getty
It's funny you'd bring that up. My son got his hair cut the other day, and he was. He was so happy that he had made the clear message to the person cutting his hair that he's not one of those people that wants to have a conversation. She tried to start talking to him, and he. And he was able to shut her down in a polite way. And he basically said, I learned it from you, dad.
- [25:33]
Jack Armstrong
Ixnay on the apping.
- [25:34]
Joe Getty
Yay.
- [25:35]
Jack Armstrong
Is that what he said?
- [25:36]
Joe Getty
Give her the old cut? Yeah.
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Katie
With the hygienists, it's not just talking, but they're asking questions. And you have both of your hands in my mouth.
- [25:45]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Is it because some people are nervous and freaked out about it, and they're just trying to like. It's like a personal trainer will talk to you while you're doing your reps. So the time why does the person.
- [25:55]
Joe Getty
At the grocery store do it? Got big plans? I. I don't. I don't need to talk to you. You're a nice person, I'm sure. And there are people who want to talk to you. I'm not one of them.
- [26:07]
Jack Armstrong
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- [26:27]
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- [27:07]
Joe Getty
I wonder what the dental is similar to the people at the grocery store or lots of different walks of life. They're told by their bosses to engage you conversation. Engage you in conversation. And I just wish we could all have a where I'm wearing a lanyard right now with the key card to get in the door. I wish there was a lanyard I could wear or I'd get a tattoo on my head. I'm not one of those people you need to talk to so they don't get in trouble at work because I know they're being told to engage me in conversation. And there you you always talk about Judy, your wife, how she she enjoys it. Some people do. That's fine. But I don't need you. You don't need to say to me which what are your plans this evening? I freaking hate that. So and it's not your fault. It's me, not you.
- [27:48]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, maybe there's we can print up a card that says in in brief form, I am more than capable of entertaining myself by thinking about my life and issues and blah blah blah I don't need you telling me a mundane story about the day your cat got wet. A story that includes no humor, nor punchline, nor insight. A story that merely exists, apparently, to pass wind through your mouth. Yes, Michael, just scrape my gums.
- [28:18]
Joe Getty
Don't flap your guns. This story was merely to pass wind through your mouth. That's pretty funny. The Doomsday Clock is the closest it's been to midnight ever. Does that mean anything or not? But then there's a couple of world stories that fit in with it. Stay tuned.
- [28:36]
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
- [28:38]
Joe Getty
A movement, it's growing to put Donald Trump's face on Mount Rushmore.
- [28:44]
Jack Armstrong
All right. Meanwhile, there's another movement to put Nancy Pelosi's face on ebay. Yeah, the whole. There's. There's no movement to put Trump's face on Mount Rushmore.
- [29:03]
Joe Getty
No. Or there shouldn't be.
- [29:04]
Jack Armstrong
No. Well, there's certainly no. There's no chance of that happening ever. Nobody's going to be added nor subtracted at any point to Mount Rushmore. So can we stop talking about it? Oh, you're trying to say you really like Trump. Just say you really like Trump.
- [29:18]
Joe Getty
Right. So a couple of things that will build up to the stupid thing. Couple of real things to build up to the stupid thing here. First real thing, I don't know if you about know about China's undersea cable sabotage, where they cut that big cable from wherever to wherever, but ain't cool. I was reading this from the Dispatch. What we are witnessing is a more brazen Beijing now employing full spectrum tactics behind vanishingly thin facades of opacity and deniability. China seems much less concerned about reputational costs, calculating that any international outrage will be limited and manageable. This reflects both its strategy and its experience. China's experience has been that international outreach is fleeting and of a minimal real cost, while its strategy is to normalize increasingly aggressive behavior so that lower levels of aggression become routine and barely noted.
- [30:19]
Jack Armstrong
We've seen really good analysis.
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Joe Getty
I know. We've seen this aggression become root, blah, blah, blah. We've seen this play out across many domains, including in the air, on or under the sea, in cyberspace, and through lawfare. So accustomed has the world become to it that incidents that used to generate headlines now barely receive public mention. That is interesting and clearly true.
- [30:44]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I've been shocked at some of the outrageous China's quote unquote gotten away with. I mean, not like I have an answer to how to stop them exactly. But yeah, yeah, they have abandoned the Idea. All right. We will use charm and force just for. Well, we're going to use lots and lots of force because it turns out nobody does anything.
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Joe Getty
One underwater communications cable. But between free countries that they don't want to exist, they cut it. How about the biggest hack cyber hack in world history that we have? All of our phones, as far as I still know, are being read by the Chinese Communist Party because our phone systems haven't figured out how to get the Chinese out of it. It that doesn't even make the news really. It kind of goes both ways, though. I was listening to NPR and they mentioned how we had this big military exercise last year in the Philippines and we put some of our very best rocket launchers there temporarily as part of a military exercise. Philippines announced they're staying and China's within range. So it works both ways. That's the sort of thing that would have gotten headlines maybe on our end before, but this ramping up to God confrontation between the most two most powerful countries that have ever existed, you think it get more attention. Anyway, moving on from that, before I get to the probably dumb thing, Trump has ordered the Pentagon to pursue an U.S. iron Dome missile defense system. If you know anything about Israel's it's been pretty effective. Biggest difference being that Israel is a tiny country and there's not actually a dome. It's just a whole bunch of different missiles put around the tiny country that can shoot down any incoming missiles that it's like having an Iron dome over your country to protect you. And it works very, very well. How do you do that for the United States of America? Not exactly sure it is going to be incredibly expensive, but probably worth it and probably necessary. So this would be quite the argument. The super pacifist types will talk about how, you know, we have people starving and we're spending money on war or.
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Jack Armstrong
Whatever BS and this is destabilizing. We'll hear that quite a bit. The issue of scaling the Iron Dome to a country as vast as ours is, well, could be insurmountable. But I like the at least have the scientists put pencil to paper and see what you come up with.
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Joe Getty
Well, I have a feeling that it might just cover, you know, D.C. new York, Louisiana, crucial military sites as opposed to where I'm from in Kansas because there's almost no chance that's going to be attacked.
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Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
Probably be the way it works. But I thought that was interesting. And then leading up to this and whether or not you think this means anything or not, there's this group The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has moved its Doomsday clock forward for 2025. They've got this great big giant clock. It's been around since 1947, right after the Cold War began and the Soviet Union tested their nuclear weapons and it became clear that the United States and the Soviet Union could destroy the world if they got into a war. This group of a scientist that includes however many Nobel Prize winners, a whole bunch, they, they make this thing just to illustrate how close we are to blowing up the world at various times over the years and it moves forward or backward. And during the 80s it was getting closer and closer because Reagan was so belligerent. Then after the Soviet Union fell, it moved way back till 10 to midnight or something like that. And then it's gotten closer and back and forth. They just moved it closer than it's ever been to midnight. The probability of a global disaster. I think that's silly. I was just watching the Bob Dylan movie on Saturday night and they feature the Cuban Missile Crisis in there and Bob Dylan writing Masters of War. We were way closer to blowing up the world during the Cuban Missile Crisis than we are now, I believe. But I'm not a Nobel winning scientist, Joe.
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Jack Armstrong
Now some of you recall that during the 90s the Doomsday Clock was carried by Flavor Flavor around his neck. That was actually Doomsday Clock.
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Joe Getty
The Doomsday clock is now 89 seconds to midnight, the closest it's ever been to apocalypse. The terrifying news was revealed Tuesday after deliberation by the organization's Security Board and Board of Sponsors, which includes nine Nobel Laureates. Every second of delay increases the probability of global disaster, said the guy in charge.
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Jack Armstrong
It's the final countdown for 2025.
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Joe Getty
Multiple global threats were considered. The proliferation of nuclear weapons that's always been around. Disruptive technology such as AI. Ok, the Russia, Ukraine war, Israel, Hamas, Hamas war, the Israel, Hezbollah conflict, bio threats. And, and what adds to it? What gets us closer to midnight? That evil Donald Trump Climate change.
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Jack Armstrong
Shut up. Stop it. They didn't mention Kim Jong Un. Getting all arnery up there.
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Joe Getty
It might be in the list, but I don't think we're at a more dangerous point than we've ever been. More pretty dangerous point though. Oh yeah, no doubt about that.
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Jack Armstrong
I prefer the debt clock. If I'm gonna pick a apocalyptic clock, I would agree.
- [36:05]
Joe Getty
I would agree.
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Gettysburg.