I Hit On A Dyson Once & She Wouldn't Have Me

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "I Hit On A Dyson Once & She Wouldn't Have Me"
Date: January 30, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview of the Episode

This Armstrong & Getty episode dives into current global politics—especially US-Iran tensions and European policy shifts—before shifting to lighter and satirical discussions about government drinking guidelines, gentle versus "FAFO" parenting, and quirky news stories. Jack and Joe maintain their trademark irreverence while riffing on the week’s serious and absurd headlines.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Rising US-Iran Tensions & European Policy Shifts

[01:29—11:29]

• US Threats Against Iran: The hosts discuss President Trump’s threat of new military action against Iran and the international reactions, highlighting the US push for Europe to brand Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist group.
  • "We have been trying to get all of our European friends to designate the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization for years... France was the big holdout and yesterday Macron agreed to sign on." – Jack Armstrong [02:35]
• European Union’s Role: Notably, the EU sanctioned 15 Iranian officials for protest crackdowns, with France finally aligning with the US.
  • This signals, according to the hosts, either growing cooperation for strong action against Iran or readiness to support the US in case of full-scale conflict.
• Analysis of Military Endeavors: The hosts debate the logistics, risks, and ethics of potential US strikes, recalling historical failures (e.g., Carter's failed Iran hostage rescue).
  • "We get so used to winning in the United States... that we just expect it... But you could have a... complete debacle." – Jack Armstrong [08:03]
  • "After Vietnam and Afghanistan and Iraq, most Americans have the opposite attitude. We don't want to get involved in military anything because it ends up ugly and expensive..." – Joe Getty [08:41]
• Potential Outcomes: The duo questions whether Americans have the tolerance for casualties anymore, both among US forces and foreign civilians, referencing the Venezuela situation as a standard for low US losses.

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2. Gavin Newsom’s Political “Non-Answers” and Democratic Party Litmus Tests

[13:04—18:49]

• Newsom’s National Ambitions: Jack and Joe dissect Governor Gavin Newsom’s struggles when confronted with tough national-level questions, especially regarding donations from groups like AIPAC (the American Israel Public Affairs Committee).
• Notable Segment:
  • Newsom’s repeated deflection—labeling questions "interesting" without answering—becomes a running gag:
    • "Yeah, we've confirmed eight 'interestings' in 36 seconds. A rate of one interesting every four seconds, roughly." – Joe Getty [14:45]
  • Discussion on left-wing Democratic voters’ growing insistence on candidates eschewing support from pro-Israel lobbies.
  • "If you took a dollar from [AIPAC], there's no way I could vote for you..." – Jack Armstrong [15:07]
  • Satirical deconstruction of Newsom’s waffling and left-progressive ideological purity contests.

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3. Polar Bears, Climate Narratives, and Trump Lawsuits

[18:52—21:00]

• Polar Bear Study: Joe relays a report stating polar bears in the Norwegian Arctic are fatter due to new hunting patterns caused by climate change, flipping the traditional narrative.
  • "The polar bears are fatter because of climate change. That's not what Al Gore told us. Who's fatter? Himself." – Jack Armstrong [19:18]
• Trump Sues Treasury: Brief mention of Trump’s lawsuit over the release of his tax returns, ridiculing the outsized damages claim.

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4. Government Drinking Guidelines: Satire & Skepticism

[21:00—24:48]

• Proposed Limits: Discussion of unofficial plans to cut government-recommended daily alcoholic drinks for men from two to one, citing health risks.
  • "One drink per day for men because of all the dangers associated with drinking. But somebody talked him out of that... and they just went with 'limit your drinking.'" – Jack Armstrong [21:06]
• Public Response: Jack and Joe question both industry influence and public adherence.
  • "How many people follow those freaking guidelines. Anyway, that's what always amaze me..." – Jack Armstrong [22:11]
  • Joke about comparing drink intake to CDC cake guidelines for added levity.
• Social Commentary: The hosts use the topic to highlight (and skewer) public passivity and reliance on official guidelines.

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5. Parenting Trends—“Gentle” vs. FAFO Parenting

[25:38—37:36]

• Rise of FAFO Parenting: Explains the emergence of “FAFO” (“F--- Around and Find Out”) parenting as a reaction to “gentle parenting,” referencing viral videos of parents taking tough stands with misbehaving kids.
  • "God, I'd say..." – Jack Armstrong [32:07] (on the impossibility of being a perfect parent)
  • "Never threaten a sanction you are not prepared to deliver and never fail to deliver a sanction you have threatened." – Joe Getty [32:23]
• Satire & Anecdotes: The hosts ridicule over-parenting, describing hyper-involved parents and those preparing kids for mundane challenges like daylight savings time.
• The Case against Over-Parenting: They cite a Free Press article advising parents to “do less,” pushing for ancient wisdom over trendy methods.
  • "Parents... have been misled to view misbehavior as a veiled but vital message from their child's inner psyche." – Joe Getty [36:11]

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6. Absurd News: Man Caught with a Vacuum (Title Reference)

[27:55—29:56]

• Florida Man Story: A man is arrested for an “intimate” encounter with a vacuum cleaner in public.
  • "Oh, I hit on a Dyson once. She wouldn't have me." – Jack Armstrong [28:28]
  • Further banter about the perils and logistics of such behavior, leading into their parenting advice.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • "Once again, raise your kids to not have sex with household appliances of any kind." – Joe Getty [29:48]

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7. Gentle Parenting—Critique and Insights (Continued)

[32:40—37:36]

• Too Gentle?: Joe opines that many parents are now too lenient, while Jack shares anecdotes of unchecked bad behavior among kids.
• Danger of Over-Anxiety: Hosts lament the culture of hyper-reactivity and parental anxiety, critiquing the belief that all misbehavior is rooted in deep psychological trauma rather than childhood impulse and test boundaries.
  • "For thousands of years, parents have generally viewed misbehavior for what it typically is: kids testing the waters, blowing off steam and being kids." – Joe Getty [36:35]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "We have been trying to get all of our European friends to designate the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization for years... France was the big holdout and yesterday Macron agreed to sign on." – Jack Armstrong [02:35]
• "Yeah, we've confirmed eight 'interestings' in 36 seconds. A rate of one interesting every four seconds, roughly." – Joe Getty [14:45]
• "If you took a dollar from [AIPAC], there's no way I could vote for you..." – Jack Armstrong [15:07]
• "The polar bears are fatter because of climate change. That's not what Al Gore told us. Who's fatter? Himself." – Jack Armstrong [19:18]
• "One drink per day for men because of all the dangers associated with drinking. But somebody talked him out of that... and they just went with 'limit your drinking.'" – Jack Armstrong [21:06]
• "Never threaten a sanction you are not prepared to deliver and never fail to deliver a sanction you have threatened." – Joe Getty [32:23]
• "Oh, I hit on a Dyson once. She wouldn't have me." – Jack Armstrong [28:28]
• "Once again, raise your kids to not have sex with household appliances of any kind." – Joe Getty [29:48]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:29–11:29 – Iran, Europe, and potential US military action
• 13:04–18:49 – Gavin Newsom’s dodges and the Democratic Israel lobby litmus test
• 18:52–21:00 – Polar Bear news and Trump’s lawsuit
• 21:00–24:48 – Alcohol guidelines and government skepticism
• 25:38–37:36 – Parenting trends: FAFO, gentle parenting, and the philosophy of discipline
• 27:55–29:56 – Absurd news: Man caught with a vacuum (title reference)

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Tone and Style

The hosts blend snark, skepticism, and sharp wit, veering between serious analysis and self-aware mockery. Frequent asides, running jokes, and references to their own experiences keep the discussion casual, irreverent, and highly conversational.

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Summary Takeaway

Armstrong & Getty deliver a mix of pointed political commentary and tongue-in-cheek takes on the week’s news and fads—questioning everything from international policy to parenting to the government’s latest health directives. Listeners get a thorough but engaging ride through topics both consequential and ridiculous, all delivered with the hosts’ signature banter and skepticism.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

Friday, February 6th. Kick off the Winter Olympics in style with the opening ceremony from Italy. Featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey. Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold. The opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ilia Malinin, redefining this sport.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

Friday, February 6th. NBC and Peacock.

[Jack Armstrong]

Reggie, I just sold my car online.

[Joe Getty]

Let's go, Grandpa. Wait, you did?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep, on Carvana. Just put in the license plate, answered a few questions, got an offer in minutes. Easier than setting up that new digital picture frame.

[Joe Getty]

You don't say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they're even picking it up tomorrow. Talk about fast.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Way to go.

[Joe Getty]

So, about that picture frame.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, forget about it. Until Carvana makes one, I'm not interested.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

Car selling made easy on Carvana.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pick up. These may apply.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

President Trump is threatening new military strikes against Iran, Tom. Calling on the regime to negotiate a deal to end its nuclear program and warning, quote, time is running out. The Iranians have been publicly trying to de escalate the threat of war. Meeting with US partners in the region.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody's guess as to how serious Trump is about attacking Iran. But there's a fairly major development yesterday that I'm not sure everybody caught. It's in this story. The White House is getting support from abroad. The European Union sanctioning 15 Iranian officials for their role in protest crackdowns. The US also now branding Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. Those who operate through terror must be treated as terrorists. Both the US and Iran are set to conduct military exercises in the region in the next few days. A possible warmup of things to come. Yeah, that didn't get enough attention. I don't think everybody understood it. Well, I didn't understand it until I read about it. But we have been trying to get all of our European friends to designate the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization for years. We did a long time ago, but France was the big holdout and yesterday Macron agreed to sign on to. Yeah, the Revolutionary Guard is a terrorist organization. Which is an indication that they're either on board, slash maybe even going to be helpful in a big attack on Iran or at least we'll be willing to help us out if it turns into a full on war. But that was a major move because they've been holding out against that for a long time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Looking back to the whole Davos fracas, the fact that Europe is making cooperative noises with the US Is. Is notable. It's definitely interesting, isn't it, Gavin? That's interesting.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Why.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why France and others weren't willing to call the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization before, I do not know. Because they've pulled off many, many terrorist attacks all around the Middle east and killed many US service people in other European countries. But, you know, you know, the way you. The Euros are.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, that's it. They try to passive their way out of things and try to be persuasive and think there's a. Surely we can avoid war.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't know this till I was listening to a podcast yesterday, or I never fully understood it. I guess the Revolutionary Guard was put in place by the Ayatollah, the first Ayatollah after the revolution to keep an eye on the army. It's like, you know, who will watch the watchers referenced earlier. He put together his own private army to keep an eye on the other army so that they. That they don't go after him.

[Joe Getty]

And that's why you got dictators a stressful business. It's a surprise they live so long.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's why you got such the weird who's in charge thing always going on or who's making the decisions, because.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure the army thinks, yeah, we're really in charge behind the scenes. I'm sure the Revolutionary Guard thinks, yeah, yeah. Are you?

[Joe Getty]

We are.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the Ayatollah thinks, I'm in charge. I don't know what you guys are talking about now.

[Joe Getty]

I realized that a couple of weeks after Trump roiled the world by hinting darkly that we might invade Greenland, which I tried to assure you was not going to happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was several years ago. Right? That wasn't a week ago, just like last week.

[Joe Getty]

No wonder we're all so tired. It's worth noting that Trump said quite unequivocally, that if the Iranian regime kills those protesters, they're gonna get a hurtin'. And it could well be he said, I said it. I'm not going to be the guy who makes hollow threats. They're going to get a whacking, whether in diplomacy or parenthood. Never threaten a sanction you're not prepared to deliver. Never make a rule you're not prepared to enforce.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, so I was listening to. I took in a bunch of information on this yesterday. I was listening to one of my favorite podcasts. I think I agreed with their. Their take in that the usual, well, what comes next, people? What's the next day? That's what's always left. What's the chances the day after is worse than what we've had the last 50 years? I think it's pretty low.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. The, the current, well, the status quo is pretty solid. I mean, because with Iraq, I wouldn't have said that it's persistent for 50 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

With Iraq, I wouldn't have said that. Like, what comes after Saddam Huss, Is it going to be better or worse? It could be worse. Saddam Hussein, you know, was mostly leaving us alone, wasn't our problem. But Iran has been our problem for a very, very long time.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Yeah. So, yeah, it will create opportunity if we can weaken that regime. But anyway, I just think, you know, you certainly don't want to start a major war just because, you know, I said I'd whack them, so I got to whack them. So, all right, let's mobilize 10 million men. No, but I think Trump has to carry out some sanction against Iran, specifically some act of violence, according to the reporting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lots of different places, New York Times, cnn, others. They say sources within the White House say that taking out the leadership is fully on the table. That's what they're discussion discussing this week. Now, what that would look like. Do we have like we had down in Venezuela, some sort of mole right next to Maduro that could tell you where he is any minute of the day? Do we have something like that with the ayatollah? Like his beard barber, his beard dyer is there he goes with the gray beard. His beard trimmer is, you know, working for the CIA. Who knows what we're going to unleash. And then we got some of those electronic pulses and, you know, they're back to the beards. All their beards fall off.

[Joe Getty]

Who knows what's going to happen? Oh, boy. Like, the whole beard tangent's a bit of a distraction, but, yeah, I think it's. It's virtually certain that we have contacts within the Republican Guard and we're saying to them, look, it's possible this is going to happen. I'm not going to give you much because we don't want you to have much information, but this could happen. I want you to noodle through what you would do. Okay? And here's one suggestion for what you might do. You declare a temporary military something or other, and then we start talking about elections and rights for the people and maybe some nice trade deals, y' all, like to get rich. I mean, that's. The IRGC has got ideologues, certainly, but they're also a giant for profit corporation. Tell them, look, everybody's gonna get rich here. Because that's Trump's pitch to everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the problems is things can go wrong in military endeavors. We get so used to winning in the United States with our military endeavors that we just expect it to always go, you know, practically perfectly, with no loss of life and the objective achieved, like Maduro. We expect that so much. That's like our standard. Our pass failed. The pass is a. The line is very, very high. But you could have a. Like when Carter tried to get the hostages out of Iran. Complete debacle. Helicopters crashing and flying and people dying, and you don't accomplish anything. And I mean, things like that could happen.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I actually disagree with your premise. I think after Vietnam and Afghanistan and Iraq, most Americans have the opposite attitude. We don't want to get involved in military anything because it ends up ugly and expensive and too many people die and nothing gets accomplished.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that's the result. The political result is not what we want. But the operation, it's not like our Marines were running into each other in Fallujah and our tanks were falling apart. You know, the operation itself. And the operation itself could go bad. You know, our missiles could hit the wrong things or our planes could get shot down or whatever, and the reaction of the public would be really, really bad.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

Doesn't always work out.

[Joe Getty]

Probably will, I think. US versus Iran. I like our chances. Yeah. Although again, they have thousands of missiles of significant power that could rain down upon our bases and our friends and our ships. Less likely, according to my clients.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't you assume they would go full cornered rat, willing to try anything because they're gonna die. There's no reason to worry about, you know, awaking the sleeping giant or whatever. The giant is awake and pounding on you.

[Joe Getty]

I think the most likely scenario is that the leadership has their bags packed and have an escape plan like Hair Trigger ready to go.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're set to go to Davis, California, or someplace safe, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Some communist enclave that hates America, but maybe Berkeley. It's unclear. My intelligence is fuzzy. But anyway, so they will order their underlings, fight to the death. We're off to the airport.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. Like that guy in Afghanistan did.

[Joe Getty]

And just like in the case of when the Shah left Iran, I never surrender.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's saying through the speakerphone, neither should you.

[Joe Getty]

Fight hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

See ya.

[Joe Getty]

Right. You know, to get back to Iran, when the shah left, the army's like, yeah, no, no, the cats way. The mice are not gonna play fight to the death. Thank you.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

But what's the, what's the likelihood of a good, fairly tidy outcome? And keep in mind, in like the tidiest of outcomes, 25,000 Iranians die because that's how countries shake off one regime and move on to the other. Hell of a lot of people die always. But don't you think, what's the chance of that sort of tidy outcome? I don't know. One in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't you feel like we've got a standard of, especially coming out of the Venezuela thing, of like, next to no loss of life for our side?

[Joe Getty]

Whereas, yeah, we won our last game 35 to nothing. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whereas in reality, you know, in warfare, if you, you know, if, if 25, 000 of them die and 2, 000 of you die, that's a huge victory. But I'm not sure we have the stomach for that sort of thing, if that ever occurred.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope it doesn't. I really hope it doesn't.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, 2,000 would be extraordinary, but who knows?

[Jack Armstrong]

We got some really mockable Gavin Newsom stuff for you, if you haven't heard.

[Joe Getty]

Would appear that it was indeed MSNBC that was altering that picture of the dead nurse in Minneapolis to make him much more handsome. And really mocking CNN or MSNBC at this point is, you know, it's, it's like making fun of the New York Jets. I mean, they're, they're already terrible and weak and nobody cares.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we should talk more about that later. Also, I want to get to those guidelines for drinking that the government almost released but didn't, but now they've come out, like, really paring back on what they think you ought to drink. And to which I say, mind your own business. Who ask you? What do you. My grandma. So is that your job to count my drinks, huh?

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to, I'm going to do a couple lines of blow to, you know, get ready for this news.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if that's a good idea. Anyway, the marketable Gavin Newsom stuff and the other stuff on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

Friday, February 6th. Kick off the Winter Olympics in style with the opening ceremony from Italy, featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey. Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lindsey for sensational.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

The opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics. Ilya Malinin, Redefining this sport, Friday, February 6th, on NBC.

[Joe Getty]

And Peacock we caught on to, and.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope everybody catches on too, throughout the process of Gavin Newsom trying to become president, when he is hit with a. A touchy question, a controversial issue, he does such the worst job of a non answer. He's done it several times already, like in hilarious forms.

[Joe Getty]

It's a perfect example of how state level chops are not running for president. Chops. Because he's gotten away with it in the one party state of Cal Unicornia. And I've said for ages, Cal Unicornia. Politicians think they can win national office, but they can't because they're so lazy. Having worked in a one party state, they've never actually played a game against opposition.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think transgender children should have operations? Well, you know, but they're with the grace of God. I mean.

[Joe Getty]

What? No, no, no, no. Anyway, so Gabby's been doing the rounds, trying to raise his profile, doing various podcasts and such. Here he is, J J R Jackson.

[Guest/Interviewee]

I will not vote for a candidate that takes $1 from APAC. It's interesting. I mean it's, it's interesting. I haven't thought about APAC and it's interesting. You're like the first to bring up APAC in years, which is interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why say that?

[Guest/Interviewee]

Not. Not relevant to the. My day to day life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Which is just interesting. Listen, it's interesting. You say that JPAC perhaps more, but AIPAC less and less.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, fair enough.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Which is just interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's interesting about it?

[Guest/Interviewee]

That it's just interesting as you bring up aipac that it hasn't been part of. I'm just reflecting quite openly and honestly. Hasn't been part of the day to day.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we've confirmed eight interestings in 36 seconds. A rate of one interesting every four seconds, roughly.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we probably.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably should have set up, you know, that aipac, in case you don't know, is an Israeli lobby group that lobbies on behalf of Israel. And apparently in the Democratic party, at least for some voters, it's a no go. If you took a dollar from them, there's no way I could vote for you, that's how much.

[Joe Getty]

Because they're seller colonialists and oppressors.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's how much I hate Israel. But his response is not, yes, I took some money, but that doesn't mean I don't have the best interest of America. Or it wasn't. No, I haven't taken a dollar. Was. That's interesting. It's interesting that you bring that up.

[Joe Getty]

And in what way is it interesting?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just interesting because it's not part of my day to day life. It's interesting that you bring that. What kind of an answ that. And you're right about the state level chops because he thinks that will work. You think that that's not going to like be chum in the water when you're running for president and like your next stop in in New Hampshire there's going to be 50 people screaming at you to answer that question because you obviously dodged it. Right.

[Joe Getty]

He's just not good at the dodge.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Which is just interesting.

[Joe Getty]

And he's certainly got not good at sincere. He's good, interesting, sincere. Yeah, yeah. And then this next clip I think, you know, I hate to give it away, but it illustrates the obsession in some quarters of the Democratic Party, certainly the left of the center folks with Israel these days and how it's a reverse litmus test. You've either got to condemn Israel or you're not welcome.

[Guest/Interviewee]

This has become a big conversation and someone like myself and I think at this point a broad majority of Democrats are saying we don't want candidates who are taking money from aipac. We don't want candidates who are beholden to the Israel lobby. When you look at what you were able to accomplish with the groundswell of support financially from people who said I want to back this, I want to back fighters, I want to back people who are independent of an establishment. How do you think about AIPAC now? And maybe someone like Seth Moulton who said I want to return this money, I'm not taking it anymore. How do you think that AIPAC should be involved or shouldn't be involved?

Well, they've never been involved with me. I've never received a dollar from them in my entire political career. So that's sor absolute. So I've had opinion on that going back decades now. I don't take tobacco money, oil money. I've never taken APEC money. I mean there's certain absolutes that are the lines that have been drawn for decades for me and those will continue and to the extent they need to evolve because of the devolution of certain interests. And we're experiencing that in real time along the lines of what we've been talking, perhaps that will even grow. But the small dollar is become just the lifeblood for me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unless he's dumb, which he's not, he either has taken money and lied or he didn't know if he'd taken money because otherwise why wouldn't even that first one answered the question if he's never taken any money, that's what the guy was wanting. Oh, I will not vote for anybody who's taken a single dollar from aipac. Have you? And he said, well, that's interesting. That's interesting. Just interesting that you bring it up. I mean, why wouldn't you say, no, I've never taken a dollar. If that's the case, and he doesn't.

[Joe Getty]

Even make a half assed attempt to address the Israel issue, you know, in a larger sense. And you'd think a politician searching for the presidency would be ready to say, look, they've been an ally for a long time. But I found a lot of the things that happen in Gaza to be highly, highly troubling and excessive, blah, blah, blah. How do you not have that ready? You just keep interesting over and over until you hope people get bored and forget what you're talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's two parts of that story. Gavin doing a great job with controversial issues and at least a couple of podcasters who are a no go on any money, any relationship with Israel whatsoever.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the hilarious notion of we want candidates who are rejecting the establishment, you have, like the government and media and education and Wall street. And you're okay, sure you are.

[NBC/Peacock Announcer]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Polar bears have long been a symbol of climate change. Their health projected to suffer in a world of less ice and fewer chances for bears to hunt seals. But there's a twist in that story. Polar bears in the Norwegian Arctic have actually gotten fatter and healthier, according to a new study, turning away from the shrinking ice to hunt reindeer and walrus on land instead. Experts say the bears are still in trouble long term. But hey, the experts have been wrong before.

[Jack Armstrong]

The polar bears are fatter because of climate change. That's not what Al Gore told us. Who's fatter? Himself.

[Joe Getty]

Inescapable parallel there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if he's eating reindeer or what, but he's better. We got a bunch of stuff to tell you. I just saw the breaking news earlier today. I forgot to mention that, but Trump and his sons are suing the Department of Treasury for $10 billion or something like that. It's one of your typical Donald Trump lawsuits where you go way over the top with the amount. But the point is about them releasing his tax returns back in the day. Remember when they leaked out all of his tax returns and claiming all this sort of damage? But that was outrageous that that happened. Absolutely outrageous. And one guy did go to jail for five years, but. But I guarantee you there were Many people at multiple levels involved on making sure Donald Trump's tax returns got released. And they had no problem with it. I suspect so Very, very uncool. Anyway, it got some attention last year. Yeah, 25. When the FDA put out their guidance for drinking under RFK Jr. And they just said, what was the word they used? Limit your drinking. They got rid of the old, like how many drinks per day you should have as a man or a woman, and just went with limit your drinking. For some. Who knows why. And for some reason, some officials speaking to the New York Times on conditions of anonymously because they feared reprisals.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dietary guideline reprisals.

[Joe Getty]

What are they going to do here? Yes, yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, a couple of people who were involved in the process of figuring out how much you ought to drink anonymously told the New York Times that the. They were going to recommend the cap for men be one drink per day. One drink per day for men because of all the dangers associated with drinking. But somebody talked him out of that, I guess, and they just went with limit your drinking.

[Joe Getty]

But that's what they wanted to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which would have been far less than we've ever had in the past.

[Joe Getty]

Well, cut in half. What was the. The previous guideline, which is two for fellows and one for gals.

[Jack Armstrong]

Half is quite a bit, to the extent that you should pay attention to the people that told you to eat MARMARINE and stand six feet apart, you know.

[Joe Getty]

All right, well, in that going from two to one means after my first drink, I'm like, you know, why don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

We pour another one?

[Joe Getty]

The CDC says, no way, son. You put that the second drink's the really pleasurable one. You suppose now they're both fine, really.

[Jack Armstrong]

But do you suppose Budweiser and the wine industry or whoever got to him said, oh, hey, easy, whoa, hey, knock it off.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, entirely possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can I help pay for your library when you leave office or something?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

[Jack Armstrong]

How many people follow those freaking guidelines. Anyway, that's what always amazing to me, especially at this point, after all their swings and misses. Who's basing their life on that? I mean, there are all kinds of doctors and an independent health and medical organizations with their ideas of what you should and shouldn't do. Who's listening to the damned government on this stuff?

[Joe Getty]

Well, and what, what was it? There was some product. We had an example of a safety warning on it that I can't remember. It's like, do not stick your hand in this meat slicer. And if you, if you need that warning, you're too stupid to comprehend that warning. It's, it's a paradox or a vicious circle or something. I don't know, catch 22. Exactly. But if you don't know that it's more healthy to drink less already.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who are you?

[Joe Getty]

I mean, you're not informed enough or intelligent enough probably to comprehend the warning. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. That is kind of interesting. Back when I drank, I don't think anybody ever took a drink. Just like nobody eats a piece of chocolate cake thinking this is good for me. No, it's just, it's, it's, it's not good for me, but in a minor way. And, and you know, and I'm gonna do it anyway because life is short. I mean, that's the way.

[Joe Getty]

If I do it excessively, it's gonna have a real health impact on me. But if I don't, I'll be fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's why every ice cream cone eaten at Baskin Robbins is consumed. Nobody thinks it's a good for them.

[Joe Getty]

Would you like a second chase slice of chocolate cake, darling? No, no. A second one is above the CDC's guidelines for cake. It's not that I'm full. It' if I gorge a quarter of a cake in a sitting, I'm going to get fat. It's that the CDC has warned me. You know, I think we at the risk of turning this serious. It may, it may be a sign of what we've observed for a very long time. We are an increasingly passive people who wait to be told what to do and what to think. As opposed to, you know, we're a nation of sheep. As opposed to a nation of, you know, the eagles, Fat polar bears, but for instance. Yeah. Anyway, enough animal metaphors. Moving on, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

One drink ain't much though. That ain't much. It's hard to. Hard to even wonder why you would drink at all if you're gonna have one drink to me.

[Joe Getty]

But, you know, there are situations. Sure, yeah, it's fine. It's nice. It's good for other people.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you should do that.

[Joe Getty]

I was so proud of myself last night. Judy and I went out for a nice dinner. We split a nice bottle of wine. It was 6:30 reservation, so it was fairly early in the evening. I came home and I said, do not have any more. And I didn't. I sipped water. I was very proud of myself.

[Jack Armstrong]

A bottle of wine. We split a bottle of wine. You each have two glasses, is that right?

[Joe Getty]

Roughly wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Completely ignoring government regulations.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I know. I could barely choke that second one down knowing that I was defying the federal government. It was hard to enjoy. So speaking of living your life, this is the sort of thing that annoys the crap out of me, but I will just mention it to you. Is this the end of gentle child rearing? The rise of fafo parenting? You know, around and find out.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I saw an interesting comedy thing the other day. The Hispanic guy that's on Saturday Night Live. God, what's his name? I can't come up with it off the top of my head.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Marcelo Hernia.

[Joe Getty]

Marcelo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And he's hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

He is very, very funny and a great addition to that show. But he's. I saw from his standup routine, he said, if I'm in a grocery store or someplace like that, and I hear a kid say, I'm not doing that, and I hate you. I know what race they are. And I thought, that's pretty interesting. It ain't a black. It ain't a black mom. And ain't a Hispanic mom. It's a white mom.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty interesting, isn't it?

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

It's a really good opportunity to give it a try and see how your dog reacts. Again, it's free. You just cover the shipping. Ruffgreens.com Ruffgreens.com Again, use that promo code Armstrong. Don't change your dog's food. Just add rough greens and watch the health benefits come alive. Rough Greens.com use that promo code Armstrong. Woof. Give It a try. I don't want to rush through the parenting stuff. So we'll, we'll come back to that in a moment or two. Whether child or adult, this is bad behavior. Central Florida man has been caught in quote, a sexual performance with a vacuum. 51 year old man. He was doing this in the front yard of someone's home. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get a room.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. For your vacuum. And you, you know, if you're a vacuum blanker, that's, that's one level of crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, but public exhibitionist vacuum.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right, right. It's just not enough to in the privacy or your own home, you know, make sweet love to your. Your home appliances. You got to do it in public.

[Jack Armstrong]

So kind of like, you know, are you into blondes or brunettes? Is he a Hoover or. Eureka. What is this thing?

[Joe Getty]

What's the expensive kind that they sell?

[Jack Armstrong]

Dyson.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. He's connoisseur.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I hit on a Dyson once. She wouldn't have me. What. So what are the mechanics of this? Is it the holes?

[Joe Getty]

Mercifully, they don't get into the specifics here because I can't answer your idiotic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Question because I feel like the thing you roll along the floor with the bristles and the turning thing, it's just gonna.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Ouch.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Ouch. Katie, I'm.

[Joe Getty]

I'm figuring hoes situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's almost gotta be right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think we can assume that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. For those hard to reach places.

[Joe Getty]

God.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would think though you'd think this. If you're a really weird. A weirdo, you'd think that. Well, this might work. This is orifice like and. But you flip that thing off and all on. As soon as you flip that thing on, you think, this was a horrible mistake.

[Joe Getty]

I have made a terrible decision here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, but this guy was somebody turned over, can't reach the button.

[Joe Getty]

If he was either practiced in the art of vacuum love or had like a multiple speed vacuum or something, you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Flip it on and think, I have made a horrible mistake.

[Joe Getty]

This was a terrible decision.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what I was thinking.

[Joe Getty]

Why didn't I think this through? Once again, raise your kids to not have sex with household appliances of any kind. Speaking of parenting, stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Blenders, vacuums, you name it.

[Joe Getty]

Really? Really. I can't think of any that are a good idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, that's on the ways to hear Armstrong and Getty. The mayor of Chicago said, what we're seeing here with the Trump crowd is people who are unwilling to accept the results of the civil War. Which is a hell of an interesting thing to say. Maybe we'll get to that next hour. Our Civil war. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's an interesting take from America's stupidest mayor, Brandon Johnson. Stay tuned. So I rolled my eyes when I saw this article. You know, everybody was hearing about gentle parenting there for a while and which we'll talk about in a second, but. But now there's another trend. Of course, because everything's a trend. They're calling it FAFO parenting. Eff around and find out, oh my God, everything's not a trend. And several hot videos include a mother throwing her daughter's iPad out of the window in the car because she's misbehaving on the way to school.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if that was retrieves.

[Joe Getty]

The tablet with a cracked screen.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. You could take it away from them. You don't need to destroy the expensive product, but that's your choice.

[Joe Getty]

In another video, when a small child announces he's going to leave home, his mother says, see ya. Shuts the front door behind him and turns off the outside light, then opens the door to him screaming and pounding to be let back in.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a classic. Yeah, I remember that from the Andy Griffith Show. When Opie wanted to run away, he said, okay, see ya.

[Joe Getty]

A backlash against gentle parenting has been brewing for some time. You could watch Instagram all day without with people taking blah, blah, blah, making fun of it. Parenting has become very intensive. You know, I would suggest something is somebody who's raised three kids, number one, go with the time honored wisdom. Don't go with a freaking trend, you idiots. And don't, don't steer too much into them. Go with the ancient tried and true and understand that it's much like batting in baseball. If you got a pretty good batting average, that's a really good batting average. You're not supposed to be 100% effective as a parent. It's impossible.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I'd say.

[Joe Getty]

So don't look for a new trend. Just, you know, as I've said a thousand times, never threaten a sanction you are not prepared to deliver and never fail to deliver a sanction you have threatened. And you run your house the way you want to run your house. Our philosophy was very few rules enforced with 100% consistency.

[Jack Armstrong]

But wouldn't you say in general your sense is that parenting has gotten too gentle?

[Joe Getty]

Yes, in a lot of ways. It's also become more difficult with the rise of the Internet and all of its evils, and I mean evils with a capital E. But I remember when.

[Jack Armstrong]

My, when my kid was in, it's like preschool, it was like 4 year olds. I told this story at the time. There was one kid that was running around. This was like at the end of the day and the parents were all standing there and we're watching our kids, you know, at the, the end of their playing in the sand with their toys and trucks, stuff like that. There's this one kid running around shoving everybody, just shoving them really hard. And the kids were hating it, obviously. And, and I had just walked up and I was watching that. I was looking around and the other parents were just kind of like looking the other way, pretending it wasn't happening. I was like, hey, knock it off. What are you doing?

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

And nobody else said a word. I was like, what, are we just gonna stand here and watch this kid walk around and shove the other kids? What are we doing here?

[Joe Getty]

Unbelievable. Yeah, so don't get me started on gentle parenting because I really wanted to pivot to this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, do they have a comment? She had a buddy mother here. She's, she's nesting. We gotta let her.

[Joe Getty]

I'm explode. I'm certainly hardcore against the gentle parenting because I babysat a kid one time and the mother let me know.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we use gentle parenting. She actually used that term.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, she told me that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that child was a demon from hell. Shocking. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So there's a great piece I, I came across in the Free Press, have hung onto it for a couple of weeks and we don't have really time to, to get more than past the surface. But the title is the secret to Parenting. Do less of It. And it goes into the modern hyper focus on children and how stressed parents say they are because they are trying to do everything for the child. And I read this was my favorite part of it. Parents and we know because we are both parents ourselves, they write, are bombarded with extreme and emotionally charged messaging. Have you seen the tsunami of articles on how to prepare your kid for daylight savings time?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I must have missed those.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my Lord. You don't run in those circles or you run at the edge of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Or how to prepare your how to prepare yourself for the masks or your kids for the masks they may have encountered on Halloween. It's like preparing them for the invasion of Normandy. The natural conclusion for many is if their child is having any sort of difficulty, they should seek professional advice.

[Jack Armstrong]

My poor son, he just went off to school as a 15 year old. I've never Once prepared him for a time change. No wonder he struggles in life. I never once laid the groundwork for moving the clock one hour.

[Joe Getty]

The first commonly held fallacy is that more is more. This is the false idea that more parenting equals better parenting. It's a myth that has led to a radical shift in how parents spend their time and they go into these statistics. The second is that a parent's primary goal ought to be protecting their child, Specifically that they should protect them from the four Ds. Discomfort, hurt, disappointment, distress, and a bit of danger. And we could break that down and discuss it at length. And then the third and potentially most crazy making fallacy, and this underlies a lot of the gentle parenting and a lot of the other lunacy, is that. I'm sorry, that sounded judgmental. Wasn't. Didn't it? The. The most crazy making fallacy is that misbehavior in children is driven by underlying sadness, anxiety, or anger, which then becomes the job of the parent and often highly paid therapist to uncover and fix.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what therap tell you all the time. Any sort of acting out of any kind is. Is. There's a reason they did that. And we need to get to the psychological root of that. Like. Like, you know, I don't know. I did. You did. Everybody did things when they were a kid. It wasn't some underlying thing. It was testing boundaries or lack of, you know, impulse control or all to get.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah. For thousands of years, parents have generally viewed misbehavior for what it typically is. Kids testing the waters, blowing off steam and being kids. But with the popularization of attachment parenting. Are you familiar with this?

[Jack Armstrong]

100%, I'm familiar with that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. I'd see. I'm reading about.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't done it, but I've heard it from therapists. Yes. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

An intensive parenting style that emphasizes physical touch and a very high degree of emotional responsiveness. And gentle parenting, which is meant to prioritize empathy, respect, and validation, but is so prone to reinforcing defiance and disrespect, is to be counterproductive for most a generation. Parents have been misled to view misbehavior as a veiled but vital message from their child's inner psyche. You know why I misbehaved? I remember it rather distinctly. It's because there is stuff that I thought would be really fun to do that I wasn't supposed to do. So I went ahead and did it anyway. Because my impulses told me, do it, do it, do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have thoughts on this. We might have to get to those later. There's much to talk about. We got two more hours. If you miss a segment or an hour, you can get our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You subscribe and it'll just show up in your feed automatically. Won't that be fun this weekend?

[Joe Getty]

And that'll satisfy your inner child.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go.

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