I Hope God Made You Pretty, Sweetheart.

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode: “I Hope God Made You Pretty, Sweetheart.”
Date: November 20, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty tackle major news stories and listener feedback with their trademark mix of sarcasm, skepticism, and offbeat humor. The show covers topics from Dick Cheney’s legacy, Russia’s latest in drone and cyber warfare, teacher union controversies, explosive growth in cheap military tech, car theft tactics, audience flame mail, and—lightening things up—America’s fixation with Cane’s chicken sauce. Regular contributor Katie Greener joins for segments, and listeners’ texts inject both challenge and comic relief.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Reflections on Dick Cheney and Political Persona (03:47–06:09)

• Tributes to Dick Cheney: The show opens with George W. Bush and Yuval Levin’s comments at Cheney’s funeral. Cheney is recognized for his seriousness, intelligence, and being “sparring and measured with words.”
  • Notable Quote: “Perhaps... you could occasionally allow yourself the luxury of an unexpressed thought.” (Yuval Levin quoting a senator, 03:52)
• Electability and Authenticity: Jack and Joe marvel that someone as no-nonsense and reserved as Cheney ever succeeded in electoral politics, suggesting today’s political climate wouldn’t have favored him.
  • “You can’t picture them doing the normal rah-rah campaign speech with people cheering... and hands in the air and hugging people.” (Jack Armstrong, 05:28)

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Russia’s Information and Tech Tactics (06:09–07:29)

• Russian Robot Fiasco and Propaganda: The hosts riff on the notorious Russian robot that collapsed on stage—the government’s attempt at spin, and what it reveals about Russia’s PR efforts.
• Media Sources on Russia: Joe touts Meduza, an English-language site for independent Russian coverage, citing stories about Austria’s business with Russia and Kremlin media guidelines.

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Listener Backlash & Teacher Union Controversy (07:29–14:56)

Segment: The Angry Listener (08:25–10:53)

• Teacher Union Scandal: They revisit a story about Chicago Public Schools spending, luxury trips, and lack of oversight. An outraged listener accuses the hosts of “garbage propaganda,” asserting that the story is not evidence against unions or Democrats.
  • Notable Quote: “You guys are effing hacks. You spread propaganda... Only your fans and your listeners believe your s---. I hope you go off the air soon. Radio is dead and you suck.” (Listener text, 08:51/09:28)
• Hosts Fire Back: Joe and Jack dissect the logic and tone of the criticism, doubling down on their union critique and having fun with the vitriol.
  • “My darling, I hope God made you pretty, sweetheart. Are you seriously disputing the power of the teachers unions in Chicago? Are you kidding me?” (Joe Getty, 09:28)
  • The phrase “I hope God made you pretty, sweetheart” gives the episode its title.

Segment: The Ethics of Expensing (12:01–14:43)

• Abuse of Taxpayer Money: Reflecting on how easy it can be to misuse public funds, Jack shares a personal anecdote about a friend who instantly began abusing work perks paid for by taxpayers.
• Cultural Reflections: The hosts muse on how upbringing and environment affect people’s sense of responsibility, using examples of personal relationships and absentee parenting.

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Car Theft 2.0: Technology Risks (18:36–20:50)

• Modern Methods: Covered by Anaheim police, thieves use tech designed for locksmiths—and intercept car key fob signals from inside homes—to steal vehicles using high-tech gadgets.
• Life Hack: Katie Greener mentions keychain cases that block signals to prevent theft.
  • “They are putting out signals all the time. So, yeah, you can sniff them and use them to break into a car. What the heck? Death penalty for car thieves.” (Joe Getty, 20:11/20:26)
• Jokingly, the hosts call for harsh punishment. “Hang them. They’re the modern horse thieves.” (20:26)

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Economic News & Federal Reserve Critique (20:55–21:53)

• Interest Rate News: Trump is quoted as blasting Fed Chairman Jerome Powell after better-than-expected job numbers, expressing frustration at rates not falling.
  • Quote: “He’s got some real mental problems. No, he’s... Something wrong with him. I be honest, I’d love to fire his ass...” (Jack reading Trump, 21:06)

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Tech and Warfare: Lessons from Ukraine (22:34–36:31)

Segment: Ukraine’s Drone War (27:33–34:05)

• Deadly New Reality: Russia launches massive drone and missile strikes on Ukraine; the West is playing catch-up.
• Shocking Drone Numbers: The U.S. aspires to make 120,000 drones annually. China is already making over 8 million.
  • “China’s currently producing over 8 million drones annually.” (Jack Armstrong, 29:26)
• Battlefield Lessons:
  • Drones have made battlefields ‘transparent’—no hiding.
  • Western processes for targeting and decision-making are too slow for drone war’s speed.
  • Battlefronts are now “pointillist” kill zones, not lines.
  • Cheap, plentiful drones outmatch expensive, complex military gear.
  • Fiber-optic cable is now used to hardwire drones, sidestepping jamming.
• Fears of System Overwhelm: Predicting one day, a mass drone attack will break through defenses catastrophically.

Segment: Bureaucratic Hurdles in U.S. Defense (34:05–36:31)

• Reform Calls: Sec. Pete Hegseth says, “This is a 1939 moment”—the U.S. defense industry must become fast and flexible.
• Bureaucratic Obstacles: Past Secretaries of Defense couldn’t overcome slow, resistant bureaucracy.
• Allegory: U.S. military compared to “Gulliver,” possibly vulnerable to more nimble foes.

Segment: GPS Jamming & Navigation Innovation (36:31–39:44)

• Russian and Chinese Tech: Adversaries can jam or spoof GPS easily, forcing the U.S. to seek quantum and non-traditional backups.
• *“Maybe they’re shining lasers at atoms, maybe they’re not. Maybe they just ask a guy, go up there and take a left, turn left at the big tree.” (Jack & Joe, 38:17)

Segment: Historic Tech Parallels (39:44–40:44)

• Lessons from WWII: Germany’s use of radios and meth-fueled troops explained blitzkrieg successes; U.S. fell behind in early WWII, then vaulted ahead.
  • “You combine that with... they were on meth... Brits and the French were all like, don’t these guys ever get tired?... No, you don’t. Not if you’re meth’d up.” (Jack, 40:23)

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American Obsessions: McDonalds & Cane’s Chicken (44:27–47:59)

• Fast Food as National Lore: Jack shares stories of McDonald’s fries flavor copycats and Cane’s chicken-fueled roadtrips.
• Cane’s Secret Sauce: The recipe is locked in a safe; only select managers mix it under strict secrecy.
  • “They ship out the formula with no ingredients listed. And the managers who actually mix it up have to sign an NDA that they will never speak a word.” (Joe Getty, 46:23)
• Cane’s Origin Story: Started by college classmates for a business class; now nearly 1,000 locations.
• Audience Love: Katie jokes about algorithm recommending videos of Cane’s sauce by the cup; Jack’s family craves it too.

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Final Thoughts & Humorous Closer (46:51–47:59)

• Food Wisdom: “A taco is a beef love letter in a corn envelope that you mail to your stomach.” (Jack, quoting wife, 46:59)
• Unbreakable Loyalty: Jack always orders a pulled pork sandwich if available.
• Edible Entrepreneurship: Raising Cane’s began as a college business class; “gone rather well.”
• Comic Recap of Hater Mail: The show’s closing bumpers replay the angry listener’s text for laughs.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Perhaps... you could occasionally allow yourself the luxury of an unexpressed thought.” — Yuval Levin, quoting a senator (03:52)
• “You guys are effing hacks... Just wanted to fill you in. Have a great effing day, Armstrong and Getty. I hope you go off the air soon.” — Listener text (09:28)
• “My darling, I hope God made you pretty, sweetheart.” — Joe Getty, to listener (09:28)
• “China’s currently producing over 8 million drones annually.” — Jack Armstrong (29:26)
• “Drones make battlefields nearly transparent. You can see everything operationally.” — Joe Getty (29:39)
• “Hang them. They're the modern horse thieves.” — Joe Getty, on car thieves (20:26)
• “A taco is a beef love letter in a corn envelope that you mail to your stomach.” — Jack Armstrong (46:59)
• “They ship out the formula with no ingredients listed. And the managers who actually mix it up have to sign an NDA that they will never speak a word.” — Joe Getty on Cane’s chicken sauce (46:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Dick Cheney Remembrance: 03:47–06:09
• Russian Robot & Media: 06:09–07:29
• Chicago Teacher Union Text & Response: 07:29–14:56
• Modern Car Theft: 18:36–20:50
• Trump Blasts Fed Chair: 21:06–21:53
• Ukraine’s Drone War: 27:33–34:05
• Defense Bureaucracy / Tech Parallels: 34:05–40:44
• Cane’s Chicken & Foods: 44:27–47:59

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Tone & Style

Jack and Joe maintain a sardonic, conversational, and improvisational tone—riffing off news, each other, and listener feedback. The show’s humor pivots from playful jabs to dark sarcasm. Even charged criticism is met with good-natured mockery and self-deprecation.

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For New Listeners

This episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty’s approach: mix news analysis with irreverent humor, challenge listener assumptions, and jump from deadly serious to the outright silly—sometimes all in a single segment. Whether discussing the evolution of modern warfare or the mysteries of Cane’s chicken sauce, expect debate, banter, and unapologetic opinions.

Transcript

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio.

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[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

George W. Bush speaking at the funeral of Dick Cheney not long ago.

[Yuval Levin]

I'm reminded of a renowned senator who once gave this advice to a junior colleague. Perhaps, he said, you could occasionally allow yourself the luxury of an unexpressed thought. Dick Cheney was like that, sparing and measured with words in a profession that attracts talkers. He was a thinker and a listener, and when he did speak up, conveying thoughts in that even tone of voice, that orderly, unexcinable manner, you knew you were getting the best of a highly disciplined mind. No colleague, no legislator, no foreign leader who ever met Dick Cheney ever doubted that they were dealing with a serious man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I heard Yuval Levin, one of the heroes to conservative writers out there. He was a young staffer and had to bring Dick Cheney up to speed on some policy stuff way back in the day, and he said it was terrifying. Everybody was terrified of talking to Dick Cheney. One, he was so serious and two, he was so knowledgeable.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm scared thinking about it. And George W. With a little more insight into his his old and close friend.

[Yuval Levin]

Dick was funny and easygoing in a style that his public image never caught up with, though we can all agree wasn't your standard issue politician. If any voters came hoping for a kind word and a hug, they'd have to settle for the kind word.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm always amazed by people like Dick Cheney that they got elected in the first place because you can't picture them doing the normal rah rah campaign speech with people cheering and hands in the air and hugging people.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. I don't think he could get elected in a variety of states. I think Wyoming was the right state.

[Jack Armstrong]

For him, which is why he moved there, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, perhaps. Yeah. Plus it's just really nice. But a fairly serious people who don't screw around, they, they've, you know, the environment is forbidding at times and the work is hard and etc. So they liked the cut of his jib.

[Jack Armstrong]

We talked the other day about it and we posted it on Twitter. The Russian robot that walked out on stage and fell over.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how many of you seen that video. There's a new video out today. Apparently they put out to try to cover that one up where Putin's watching this robot dance and it does it fairly successfully. They're probably trying to erase the memory of that Russian robot that teetered out there right then fell over, had dinner.

[Joe Getty]

Last night with a handful of people, including one gent who lived and worked in Europe for a number of years and he's very, very knowledgeable about Europe and European politics and that sort of thing. And he sent me to this news service. It's English language Russian news, but not from the Kremlin. It's, I think you'd call it free press fans reporting on Russia and it's so interesting. Here's one story. House Swarovski Optic is still sending sniper scopes to Russia despite Austria's policy of neutrality. Life matters more than your wallet. Medusa, that's the website, takes a look at the Kremlin's new media guidelines for spinning Russia's tax hikes. Really interesting. Speaking of Russia.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Joe had a story last hour about Chicago schools and unions and wasted money that we got quite a detailed pushback on. Can you bring us up to speed on that real quick before I read the text?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The story, which was actually from NBC Chicago, was about a handful of schools, eight schools that used a tremendous amount of CPS funds, Chicago Public Schools funds for out of state overnight travel, including some really impressive luxury travel to Hawaii for a four day quote unquote seminar. How most of the travel they didn't even start the approval process that's required by the rules. 13 out of 15 were not pre approved as required. One trip was even rejected, but the employees went anyway. And I, we suggested that there is no accountability partly because the Chicago Public Schools and indeed the government of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, are completely mobbed up and under the rule of the teachers union. Is that more or less what you're looking for?

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. And we got this text which is longer and more detailed than usual, so I'm reading it. Hey, I was just listening to your show because I'm forced to by my boyfriend. He listens to your garbage propaganda every morning.

[Joe Getty]

And I went, job, sir. Well done. She'll come around sooner or later.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I went and checked out that Chicago story online about the teachers. And it had nothing to do with the ex. The entire district. Has nothing to do with the unions. Has nothing to do with the Democrats. It was eight schools out of 197 or 200 or something.

[Joe Getty]

I read that.

[Jack Armstrong]

A story that actually sounded like you were reading directly from it, except adding the words Democrats and unions after every sentence. You guys are effing hacks. You spread propaganda. I can tell when I listen to you, when you guys know you're saying bs. I can tell when you guys cut out or change the subject or go to a joke. So only your fans and your listeners believe your s. Just so you guys know that. Just wanted to fill you in. Have a great effing day, Armstrong and Getty. I hope you go off the air soon. I'm thinking the only reason you haven't is because somebody wants you to keep spreading your BS because radio is dead and you suck.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Perhaps if you'd ever attended a school, you'd be familiar with the term ad hominem attack. Are you seriously, My darling, I hope God made you pretty, sweetheart. Are you seriously disputing the power of the teachers unions in Chicago? Are you kidding me? They practically single handedly elected a union hack as mayor. He's ruining the city. Brandon Johnson. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you were reading from. You were reading from the local NBC News affiliate, which is Correct. Fairly unlikely. A right wing organization.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. She's absolutely correct. It is eight schools in particular that really, really built the system. But that does. Does. That does not prove. Because it was only 8, therefore everything else I said isn't true. That's just a logic. Another logical fallacy. Again, I hope God made you pretty.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, probably did. Which is probably why her boyfriend's with her because obviously she doesn't agree with his politics and he listens to us every single day. I think this screed was at least a little bit of a release valve of how much she hates the fact that she has to listen to the show when she's riding in the car with him. I hope you go off the air soon. I'm thinking the only reason you haven't is because someone wants you to keep spreading your BS because radio is dead and you suck.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Wow. So fine arguments there. Yes, go ahead.

[Katie Greener]

I wonder how many boyfriends are looking over at their girlfriends that listen to.

[Jack Armstrong]

The show in the car. Like, did you just. Did she? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Who were you texting a minute ago?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you're kind of long one. You're annoying and kind of hot and I put up with it. So I wonder was you?

[Joe Getty]

Well, here's some more right wing tripe from NBC Chicago. Spokesperson for the district said it is taking the report seriously and intends to ensure employees act in the best interests of students and the city going forward. But no, no, that's funny. The spokesperson for the district must have been misled by our FASC right wing nonsense.

[Jack Armstrong]

I read the story that sounded like the one you were reading directly. You guys are effing hacks. You add the words Democrat and unions after every sentence. Oh man, I enjoy that sort of thing. I don't know why.

[Joe Getty]

And now they've instituted a travel freeze restrictions to all Chicago public schools funded employee travel. But no, again, they were misled. The. The actual school district was misled by my hackery. And I apologize.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm always interested by that because I am. I think maybe I'm wrong. I think that if I was given a. What do you call that, an expense card, but that third party spending or whatever, or I'm spending somebody else's money and I've never really had that situation at all in my career. But if I had that, especially if it was taxpayer money where people aren't paying that much attention to it, I just feel like I wouldn't abuse it. I wouldn't stay in like nicer than I normally do hotels or eat it more, buy more expensive bottles of wine.

[Joe Getty]

Or whatever, but I would, I'd milk it like a dairy cow. Are you kidding?

[Jack Armstrong]

But I had a friend who, when we were young, Gladys. Gladys has carpal tunnel. She hates playing that thing.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, read your contract.

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Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Take some signs, Advil or something and play your damn harp. But so I had this friend and he got a job. I'm gonna be very vague, but he got a job working for an entity that was taxpayer money. He immediately started abusing it, like immediately. We were like 20 years old. I remember the first time, this is back when you had full service gas stations. I mean is many, many years ago when you had to pay a lot more. You pulled in there instead of pumping it yourself, you'd pay like an extra 20 cents a gallon because somebody would come out and pump it for you. I said, what are you doing? He said, I'm not paying for this. I thought, wow. Immediately he thought, I'm going to live a better lifestyle than I've ever lived in my life because somebody else taxpayers are paying for it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You know, culture, upbringing are so powerful. I, I'm thinking of an acquaintance who I found out he, he, he did something irresponsible and is losing his job. And, and I had no idea guy had four kids. I said, wow. Hey, I had no idea. He never mentioned it. And another acquaintance said, yeah, he doesn't live with them. It's one of those just, just knocks women up. And you know, we were talking about how to both of us, that, that's anathema. I can't imagine it. Yeah, I got a kid over there with her and a kid over there with her or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

And, and you don't think about it all day. Every day. It consumes your life wondering how they're doing now, how they're gonna do in the future.

[Joe Getty]

The very idea of it is gut wrenching. But for him, and the point was made, that's what he grew up with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's sad. Anyway, yeah. Thank you for your fair criticism, honey.

[Jack Armstrong]

Having hex.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you should see my tax return.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, geez. Oh my God. I think sometimes I do suck. So I'm, I'm with you, honey.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sometimes.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, without question. Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Anaheim police detective Heather Scaglioni says the thieves used a tablet meant for locksmiths that can connect to technology and newer vehicles.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's being handed a. Like a locksmith tool, a computer device, a plug into the computer system in the car so we can quickly reprogram it and turn the car on so we can leave with that truck.

[Joe Getty]

Thieves are also using antennas to pick up signals from key fobs inside homes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Once they pick up that signal, they send it to somebody standing by the car opens the car right up, gets in, push the start button, and off they go. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And the time you go back to metal keys that just stick in the ignition and twist.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah. In the. In the video attached to that news article, it actually showed a ring camera at the front door, and the thieves were holding an antenna, and they had some kind of device tucked in their pocket that this thing was connected to. And when they held it up, they just touched the house, and then the car that was parked in the driveway started, because somebody had already was able to, like, get into it and start the car just by using the key fob signal.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I remember two cars ago, I think it was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was that your Trans Am?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. With the. The T tops. Yeah, My fob. Key fob kept. The battery kept dying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I said, where do you keep it relative to your garage? And it was too close to the garage. He said he either got to shield it or move it because the car and the key fob keep talking to each other.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't know that. That's why my battery runs down so fast on my key fob. I feel like I replace it every two weeks, and nobody's ever told me that. Okay.

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Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, so, yeah, obviously they. They are putting out signals, and, you know, well, putting out signals all the time. So, yeah, you can sniff them and use them to break into a car. What the heck? Death penalty for car thieves.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go.

[Joe Getty]

Hang them. They're the modern horse thieves. Hang them.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right.

[Joe Getty]

Right outside General Motors. You know, Ford or whatever. Maybe it's your local dealer. I don't know. Come on down. Bring the kids. We'll spin the wheel of prizes. Hang a car thief. They're actually making these plus free hot dogs.

[Katie Greener]

They're making these keychains now, too, that you can get on, like, Amazon or whatever that you just put on there, and then you can tuck your key fob in that, and it'll block that signal.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, good. Yeah. Excellent. There you go. Simple solution. Thank you, Katie. Life hack. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we got some of that economic news today. That was good news. So it's bad news. Here's Trump talking about Chairman Powell. Mortgage rates are down despite the Fed.

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[Jack Armstrong]

He's got some real mental problems. No, he's. Something wrong with him. I be honest, I'd love to fire his ass. He should be fine. So Chairman Powell has got to be thinking, how did I end up in this situation in my life? He is probably not going to lower interest rates next month because the job numbers came out today twice as high as people were expecting. So that's good news. But it's bad news if you want the interest rates to go down.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I gotta take those numbers with a shake or assault. But yeah, that's definitely got an influence on the Fed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something wrong with that guy. What's wrong with him? I should fire his ass. Like talking to a chair.

[Joe Getty]

Not very presidential. I'm not impressed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Too late.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of shakers of salt, how America's hottest chicken chain keeps its secret sauce a secret. Coming up. Do we have time for this? No, we don't. I have a handful. A potpourri Jack, if you will, of defense Related stories Military laid stories from the United States which is your priority for when we come back. The lessons of Ukraine's drone warfare Trump Hegseth and the new arsenal of freedom. It's about Hegseth saying this is a 1939 moment and we've got to be much more nimble with our military technology. That's a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kind of fits in with that first story.

[Joe Getty]

The Pentagon can't trust GPS anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, that's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Is quantum physics the answer?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh wow. I know something about that first story because the Secretary of war was on one of the talk shows over the weekend talking about how we're trying to catch up drone wise. Ukraine is the world leader out of necessity. Necessity, the mother of all invention. Ukraine has had more necessity than anybody on planet earth to figure out how the drone thing and they are the world leader. But you know who's right behind him? Flipping China. And we are way behind China in the number of drones produced. Not even close.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, I think part of the problem is, and Pete Hegseth is dealing with this, is that we are enamored with the high tech amazing device. Whereas lots and lots and lots and lots of mediocre stuff is better.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. So China will particular realm If China at some point sends 20,000 drones at an air base that they set up in a bunch of containers on some land they bought right next to the military installation, all our nuclear missiles are going to be of no use to stop that.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. So why don't we touch on all of those things if we can squeeze them in, including the secret sausage. I think it's Cane's chicken.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cane's chicken? That's my kid's favorite.

[Joe Getty]

I've never eaten Cane's chicken. Oh, delicious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember the first time we were driving down the road with my niece and she said they've got a Cane's chicken, we gotta stop.

[Joe Getty]

She was so excited.

[Jack Armstrong]

First time I'd ever heard of it. Oh yeah, the young people love the Cane's chicken.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Death and destruction in Ukraine at least 25 people killed, 80 wounded as Russia fired hundreds of drones and 50 missiles at the country. Overnight a Russian drone crossed the border with NATO member Romania. Fighter jets scrambled there and in next door Poland. Polish airports temporarily closed. Yeah, giant giant rocket and drone attack on Ukraine overnight from Russia killed a whole bunch of people and you know, blasting apartment complexes and civilian structures and stuff the way they do.

[Joe Getty]

Jillian Melchior has written a really interesting piece entitled the Lessons of Ukraine's Drone Warfare and among other things she points out that there have been all sorts of drone incursions into the airspace of various European countries from Spain, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Estonia, Poland we mentioned and she says Europe's response has not inspired confidence. Belgium's attempts to jam and shoot down the drones were ineffective and Germany realized a lack of legal authority could hinder the police or military from taking the drones down. And in Poland, allies used missiles that cost around a million dollars or more against drones that cost around $10,000. Meanwhile, in Ukraine, drone warfare is evolving with astonishing speed and lethality. And she mentioned she was talking to drone experts in Ukraine who said the west is so far behind, they have no idea what they're doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, that's what the U.S. army Secretary, Dan Driscoll, said on one of the talk shows over the weekend. How far ahead Ukraine is of everybody, but then just drone production. So we promised we're gonna ramp up our drone production to about 10,000amonth, which would be 120,000 a year China's currently making. Remember, I just said we're gonna ramp up our production, and that's an aspiration to get to 120,000 a year. China's currently producing over 8 million drones annually.

[Joe Getty]

Holy crap.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you got to give me a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. I heard that number on the Sunday talk show. I was like, holy. I said the same thing.

[Joe Getty]

Holy crap. Yeah, you got to give me the standing eight count.

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[Joe Getty]

So here are the lessons that the Ukrainians wish the west would learn. Number one, drones make battlefields nearly transparent. You can see everything operationally. It's really hard to catch the enemy by surprise, easier to interdict, and harder to preserve. The logistics that support troops at the front, and there are only limited things they can do about it at this point with bigger, more useful drones. Drones. Another lesson. Drones collect huge amounts of battlefield information, but the west needs better tools to analyze that data. The stuff we're using right now is antiquated. It's not. It's not appropriate. The. Oh, the west process for identifying a target, assigning someone to go after it, and carrying out the strike is too centralized and too slow for the drone era, among other things, says a member of the supervisory board of the nonprofit that supports the development of this drone. They're talking about another. Another lesson. The front line is no longer a line. Drones have turned it into a kill zone of about 25 miles wide. Because forces can't move safely in big groups or vehicles, troops now move in small numbers. If you picture the Russians, like, invading the Baltic states with a line of tanks. No, it's going to be small groups of infantry, couple dudes on motorcycles.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you haven't seen those videos, that's what they do. And the fact I think Ukraine did this first, and now Russia's doing it. Whether they're putting fiber optic cables on the drones, because everybody's figured out the radio jamming thing for drones, so you have to hardwire them so you can't interrupt the communication. So have these thin, really long fiber optic lines that they attach to the drones on both sides now, sending them into battle.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's hard for me to imagine that that works, but obviously it does.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, I've seen it done. It's an enormous rule of, or role rather of very, very fine, like fishing line that they just spool out. Seems crazy, seems too old school. But back to the the front line is no longer a line, thought several soldiers sketched in her notebook a new geography of the battlefield. Marking dots to represent Ukrainian and Russian positions intermingled within the kill zone. One guy for the American Enterprise Institute has dubbed this a pointillist battlefield. It's not about lines, it's just little points. Training can't be one and done. Another one of the lessons. It's ongoing. Because drone technology and tactics can become obsolete in months or weeks. Cost is king. Ukrainians worry Western procurement doesn't yet reflect how the math favors plentiful, cheap drones over scarce and costly ones. As the Poland example illustrates, that's what China's up to. They've learned the lesson. Tanks and armored vehicles need better protection. They're just so vulnerable from above. And don't rely on a drone wall for air defense. That's how Europeans are describing their air defense aspirations after Russia did that big incursion into Poland. She says the Ukrainian thing is layered over distance and altitude, includes a wide range of kinetic and electronic countermeasures. The idea is if one defense fails, the next may succeed. So it's a gauntlet.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe the most successful drone attack of all time was that one that Ukraine pulled off a while back. Remember, they had sent those shipping containers into Russia and planted them there. And then all of a sudden they opened up and the drones came out and they blasted all those planes and it ended up being like $110 million worth of equipment damaged or destroyed for the cost of tens of thousands of dollars worth of drones. That's the asymmetry in that whole thing. But I feel like one of these days Russia or Ukraine or China or somebody is going to pull off the big Iran because they've tried it multiple times. Somebody's going to pull off the big we overwhelmed the system we got in thing because so far it hasn't happened. They send the hundreds and thousands of drones and like 90% of them are shot down. Some Point somebody's gonna get the big win, aren't they? Where they just overwhelm the defenses, whether it's like technologically or just in terms of numbers of counter drones and counter missiles and just like destroy Tel Aviv or Kyiv or someplace. Or hopefully not Omaha, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And we don't have nearly the air defenses we need because partly it's such a vast country. I mean, that system would be expensive to say the least. Although they're working on it. I know. So, speaking of working on it, the editorial board of the Journal says Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth recently made a bracing remark that received almost no attention. He told defense executives in a speech, this is a 1939 moment, or hopefully a 1981 moment, a moment of mounting urgency. And he was talking about the desperate need to get the bureaucracy to move faster in buying everything from drones to missiles to ships. They bring up the stuff we've all heard about Pentagon woes late. Expensive new aircraft carriers, an 8,000% price markup on a soap dispenser inside a C17 bathroom, and all sorts of stuff. He says the administration is aiming to build, rebuild the arsenal of freedom and the dysfunctions, overregulation, diffused accountability and insufficient competition. Every process, every board, every review must justify its existence. The secretary said, I hope he's successful.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope so, too. And that's one of the problems of the. You know, the Defense Department is always claiming they're underfunded and now is the most crucial time ever. This time it's true, though, is the thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I remember and I've mentioned this many times, but Robert Gates, fabulous autobiographies, memoir, it shocked me at the time he was talking about, when he's the Secretary of Defense, he couldn't get anything done in the Pentagon because it was such a giant, slow moving bureaucracy that bureaucrats could stymie him and prevent him from doing what he wanted to do as the secretary. They just slow walked everything, lost memos, didn't return calls. I thought, good Lord, that's no way to run anything, much less the Department of Defense. If it was the Department of the Interior, whatever they do, that would be bad defense. It's unthinkable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the big lumbering giant that is, that ends up being tied down if you follow the old allegory of the Gulliver's Travels. End up being bastards, little bastards, and the quick, nimble, hungrier entity will end up defeating us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So a final note. One of the stories we teased was in the Ukraine war Especially Russia, is jamming and spoofing GPS signals so frequently that satellite navigation is not dependable. And other potential adversaries like China and North Korea possess similar capabilities. They can render all of our US drones, aircraft and ship GPS systems useless. And so we are working urgently to develop backup systems. And they're talking about this experiment. At a tiny airport in the Australian countryside last month, a small plane took off carrying a device that could transform how all of our fighting machines navigate across future battlefields. The flight carried an instrument that, and this is, it's funny every time I come across a story like this when you're talking about, you know, splitting atoms and hydron super colliders and the rest of it, it could be 100% made up and I would never know. And then we super collide these atoms at a million miles per hour, then measure the quartron vector that they travel. I'm like, duh, okay, gets good. Anyway, the flight carries an instrument that shines lasers at atoms which behave like compass needles to measure Earth's magnetic field in real time. Readings from the device can be compared to a magnetic field map, helping a user determine their location and offering a backup to satellite based navigation like gps, which is entirely dependent on signals to and from satellites. So maybe they're shining lasers at atoms, maybe they're not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, maybe they just ask a guy, go up there and take a left, turn left at the big tree.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, where are we? We're over Adelaide, I think. Yep, there's the football stadium. Okay, man. I, I remember talking to my brother in a completely non classified capacity as he was fairly high up in, in the United States Navy, talking about the challenge of developing communication redundancy because all of the, you know, all of the methods we use to communicate with the folks in the field and ships at sea can be jammed or screwed around or messed with. So if, if one doesn't work, you got to go to level two. If level two doesn't work, you got to have a third alternative and on down the line and how that's getting harder and harder as the technology changes. Maybe it's hardwired telephones in the future like the drones you mentioned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And when I was in handwritten notes.

[Jack Armstrong]

When I was reading up back in April, May and June about the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II, I was reading all about our Navy, the way we built up during World War II. I mean we were not really very technologically advanced or very good at the point when Japan attacked us. But by the end of the war, we were so far ahead of everybody else technologically. I mean, just we're doing things and going places at speeds and in ways that just nobody had ever even thought of. We were so far ahead. Well, that's not the situation we're in now.

[Joe Getty]

For all my studying of the Third Reich, I heard something just absolutely fascinating not long ago. I'm pretty sure it was Neil Ferguson, the great scotch American historian, talking about one of the reasons the Blitzkrieg was so incredibly successful, the early days of World War II, when when Germany was rolling over various countries, was that they had radios. They had really useful, dependable radios. And so their field communications were multiple times faster or fractions of the time spent getting instructions and feedback and condition of the battlefield reports from their commanders.

[Jack Armstrong]

You combine that with the fact that they were on meth, which has only been known since the mid-90s that they were all on meth. Hitler's genius doctors figured out the whole meth thing. And the Brits and the French were all like, don't these guys ever get tired? How do you go that far in three days? You gotta sleep. No, you don't. Not if you're meth up you don't.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. You're tweaking and you're communicating and you run roughshod over Poland. Oof.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we will finish strong.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking on Monday at the McDonald's Impact.

[Joe Getty]

Summit of Franchise Owners and Suppliers, President.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump bragged that he got Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. To eat a Big Mac. All he had to do was Run.

[Joe Getty]

It over with his car first.

[Jack Armstrong]

I get it.

[Joe Getty]

That's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was at a brewery that as a restaurant, we weren't drinking, me and my boys, but we were eating the food at this brewery in our town. And their french fries tasted exactly like McDonald's fries. I went up to the manager and I said, your fries takes exactly like McDonald's fries. I've never had that anywhere. Obviously that's a good thing. He said, I know. And I don't go back in the kitchen. I don't ask. I don't know how we do it. I don't want to know.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Do they like boil panda fat or what?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, no, but I mean, they got a guy. It's got. They got a guy. It's got to be a copyrighted something or other.

[Joe Getty]

But I wonder. Which brings us to raising Cane's chicken fingers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Raising Cane popular chicken joint a step away. It's fast food, but it's a step way above kfc.

[Katie Greener]

Never been.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I had never been either. We're driving down. We're driving through Arizona, going through Flagstaff. My niece who was at the University of Kansas at that time said, they have a cage chicken. They have a cage chicken. We have to stop. Because that's where she ate in Lawrence, Kansas was a Cane chicken. She loved it so much and I'd never been to one before and now we got one in my town and there's a lot. There was a line down the block for months when it first opened. It's still the most popular fast food joint in town by far. People love the Cane's chicken.

[Joe Getty]

Well, locate. Take two. Locked in a safe at an undisclosed location sits the key to the success of America's hottest chicken chain. It is the handwritten 30 year old recipe for their sauce.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sauce.

[Joe Getty]

The chain's famous sauce.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they don't have any other sauce. It's not like one of those. You could get barbecue or honey mustard or whatever. You can only eat that sauce.

[Joe Getty]

They ship out the formula with no ingredients listed. And the managers who actually mix it up have to sign an NDA that they will never speak a word.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. My kids will be really interested in that. I'll be darned.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Check your clock.

[Joe Getty]

It's time to stop Jack and Joe. They've got. And if they don't, you can.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Tastes like mayonnaise with a little pepper in it. I don't. Okay, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew, beginning with our technical director, Michelangelo Michael. What's your final thought? All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

My wife sent this to me. I'm supposed to read it as my final thought.

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A taco is a beef love letter.

[Jack Armstrong]

In a corn envelope that you mail to your stomach.

[Joe Getty]

That's good stuff. That is beautiful stuff right there. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie?

[Katie Greener]

Because my algorithm thinks I'm a fat ass, I always see these videos of people getting soda sized cups of the cane's sauce.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, my kids always want the extra, extra canes.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Jack, do you have a final thought for us?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. At this restaurant last night, I got the pulled pork sandwich. I don't think I've ever been anywhere where if they offer a pulled pork on the menu, I don't order it. That's a guarantee. I'm getting that no matter. The other choices can't go wrong.

[Joe Getty]

My final thought is actually back to the Cane's Raising Cane's chicken thing. It was founded in 1996 by a couple of college classmates who had a business class where they had to propose a business. Wow. They went with a chicken restaurant, then decided, you want to actually try this? That's gone rather well over a thousand. Almost a thousand locations.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I would say, what an interesting story that is. They'll probably make a movie about that someday. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

See you tomorrow. God bless America. Armstrong and get it on. The arms. Strong and Getty show your satisfaction's guarantee.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Just so you guys know that. Just wanted to fill you in. Have a great effing day. Armstrong and Giddy. I hope you go off the air soon. I'm thinking the only reason you haven't is because somebody wants you to keep spreading your BS because radio is dead and you suck.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Armstrong and get.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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