I Just Thought It Was A Really Good Sandwich

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: I Just Thought It Was A Really Good Sandwich
Release Date: February 10, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Super Bowl Aftermath and Fan Behavior

The episode opens with Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delving into the chaotic aftermath of the Super Bowl, specifically addressing the unruly behavior of Eagles fans. Joe Getty recounts incidents of mayhem, including fans becoming excessively drunk and engaging in violent acts like punching police officers.

• Joe Getty (00:44): "Eagles fans go to berserk after the Super Bowl win. They're drunk and they're out of their minds and punching cops and all that stuff."

Jack Armstrong expands on this by reflecting on the broader implications of such behavior, linking it to the perception of political violence and the idea that large groups can sometimes receive a "permit to be lawless."

• Jack Armstrong (01:18): "The message that's sent... if you get a certain number of people, that's a permit to be lawless."

2. Analysis of the Super Bowl Game

The hosts transition to discussing the Super Bowl game itself, with Joe Getty expressing his disappointment as a Chiefs fan. Despite being a dedicated follower, he felt the Chiefs were overwhelmingly outmatched by the opposing team, which he describes as being in a rebuilding phase with a new head coach.

• Joe Getty (01:51): "It seemed pretty clear to me from very beginning of the game. It was not their day."

Jack Armstrong agrees, suggesting it was an early-season mismatch between a playoff-ready team and one still finding its footing.

• Jack Armstrong (02:14): "It felt like an early season mismatch between a clear playoff team and a team that's in a rebuilding year."

3. Super Bowl Commercials Breakdown

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the Super Bowl commercials, with both hosts sharing their top picks and critiques.

Top 10 Commercials:

1. Pfizer - "Knockout" (06:06)

   • Depicts a child boxer defeating cancer, which Jack Armstrong critiques as a typical Big Pharma PR move.
   • Joe Getty (06:28): "We spent $3 million on this 30-second commercial to make you sad so that we can make even more money."

2. Hellman's - "Sally Met Hellmann's" (07:20)

   • Showcases an oversized offensive line average, highlighting the physical prowess of the team.
   • Joe Getty (03:18): "The offensive line for the Eagles averages 663-4. Almost a hundred pounds lighter per person."

3. Hellman's Sandwich Ad (08:05)

   • Features a humorous take on food enjoyment with older women.
   • Jack Armstrong (08:22): "I'll have what she's having."

4. Uber Eats - "Century of Cravings" (08:56)

   • Celebrates football history intertwined with food cravings.

5. Bud Light - "No Longer Down With The Trans Thing" (09:33)

   • Utilizes comedian Shane Gillis to portray rugged, hard-partying men.
   • Joe Getty (09:37): "He is the right guy. But I thought that was just a good ad all the way around."

6. Flag 50 - "Girl Power" (09:57)

   • Promotes girls' flag football with an over-the-top portrayal of female strength.
   • Jack Armstrong (09:57): "Girls have girl power, which is just too much."

7. NFL - "I Am Somebody" (10:35)

   • A heartwarming ad focusing on young children in challenging environments believing in their potential.
   • Joe Getty (10:44): "I like that, too."

8. Stella Artois - "Other David" (13:45)

   • A humorous take on celebrity doubles with David Beckham and a fictional twin brother.

9. Michelob Ultra - "Ultra Hustle" (14:00)

   • Features Christopher Walken promoting pickleball, though both hosts express confusion over his involvement.

10. Lay's Potatoes - "Little Farmer" (15:04)

    • Emotional storytelling of a young girl contributing to her family's potato farm, criticized by Jack Armstrong for manipulating emotions for profit.
    • Jack Armstrong (15:34): "I cried for an hour. It was so touching."

11. Budweiser - "Clydesdale Delivery" (16:22)

    • Showcases the iconic Budweiser Clydesdales undertaking a heroic beer delivery journey.
    • Jack Armstrong (16:27): "Cute little animals and cute little girls just. But that's fine if that's what people like."

4. Political Commentary and Polling Insights

Jack and Joe shift focus to the political landscape, discussing recent polling data and President Trump's influence.

• Trump's Approval Ratings:

  • Jack Armstrong (17:12): "Trump is the ultimate troll."
  • CBS polling indicates Trump's approval at 59-60%, the highest during his term.

• Immigration and Border Policies:

  • Joe Getty (20:16): "How do you feel about Trump's program to deport immigrants illegally in the US? 59% approval."

• Elon Musk and AI Influence:

  • Concerns arise over Musk's and Dogecoin's sway over government decisions, with differing public opinions on the extent of their influence.

• Trade Policies and Tariffs:

  • The hosts discuss the New York Times editorial on tariffs, noting public support varies by country, with 56% approving tariffs on China but 62% opposing tariffs on Canada.

5. Artificial Intelligence: Risks and Ethical Concerns

A significant segment is dedicated to the potential dangers of uncontrolled AI development. The hosts express alarm over AI systems like Deep Seek, which allegedly lack proper safeguards, allowing them to generate harmful content.

• Jack Armstrong (31:58): "These are some of the potentially hazardous things. It's much easier to get in deep seat."

• Joe Getty (32:04): "Trying to have guardrails on, I just, I don't see how that's ever going to work."

They discuss scenarios where AI could assist in illicit activities, emphasizing the difficulty in implementing effective restrictions.

• Joe Getty (35:07): "If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Gettysburg on demand."

6. Media Critique and Public Perception

The duo critiques the mainstream media's portrayal of political figures and events, arguing that biased reporting skews public perception and approval ratings.

• Jack Armstrong (22:38): "If you had only neutral coverage, the numbers would be much higher."

• Joe Getty (27:10): Reflects on the New York Times editorial urging citizens not to tune out amidst political chaos, countering with their belief that a significant portion of Americans remain unfazed by such events due to selective media consumption.

7. Super Bowl Halftime Show and Entertainment Choices

Towards the end, Armstrong and Getty discuss the challenges of selecting a universally appealing halftime performer, expressing a preference for more traditional and broadly liked acts over niche artists like Kendrick Lamar.

• Joe Getty (29:26): "I'm no longer in the main demo of what they're advertising to, but I still don't think Kendrick Lamar cracks 25% in terms of the audience that wants to see that for the halftime show."

They nostalgically reminisce about local New Orleans jazz bands, suggesting a preference for culturally rich and universally enjoyable performances.

8. Closing Remarks and Future Topics

As the episode wraps up, the hosts hint at upcoming discussions on Department of Education reforms and continue to voice their skepticism towards current technological advancements and media practices.

• Jack Armstrong (26:30): "The legacy media needs to be punished for what they're doing."

• Joe Getty (32:18): "It's trying to keep America on its back heels so President Trump can blaze ahead in his drive for maximum executive power."

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter about AI mishaps, leaving listeners anticipating future topics.

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Notable Quotes:

• Joe Getty (00:44): "Eagles fans go to berserk after the Super Bowl win."
• Jack Armstrong (01:18): "If you get a certain number of people, that's a permit to be lawless."
• Joe Getty (06:28): "We spent $3 million on this 30-second commercial to make you sad so that we can make even more money."
• Jack Armstrong (15:34): "I cried for an hour. It was so touching."
• Joe Getty (16:27): "Cute little animals and cute little girls just. But that's fine if that's what people like."
• Jack Armstrong (22:38): "If you had only neutral coverage, the numbers would be much higher."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty provide a candid and critical analysis of the Super Bowl festivities, ranging from fan behavior and game performance to the often polarizing nature of Super Bowl commercials. They seamlessly transition into broader societal issues, including political dynamics, media influence, and the ethical implications of artificial intelligence. Their unfiltered discussions offer listeners a blend of humor, skepticism, and insightful commentary, making it a compelling listen for those seeking an alternative perspective on contemporary events.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. T A G L E S E R.

[Joe Getty]

Mayhem in the streets of Philadelphia after the. Or is that. Was that in New Orleans? That was in New Orleans. For the Eagle by Eagles fans. Let. Can we try this all over again? Eagles fans go to Berserko after the super bowl win. They're drunk and they're out of their minds and punching cops and all that stuff. I don't know why we put. I. I say this every time. Every sport, college, pro, whatever. I don't know why we let the message get out there. You can get amazingly outta hand. You can destroy a city bus, you can punch a cop, you can do all kinds of things after you win. It's perfectly. We understand. How could you not. Your team won.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and not to turn this overly serious, but the message that's sent and was sent several times in recent history around political violence is if you get a certain number of people you. That's a permit to be lawless. And if your side tends to draw more people into the streets because, I don't know, maybe they don't have freaking jobs, you get the license to be lawless. Now the other side, which tends to have smaller assemblages, if they're in the least lawless, they will be busted and prosecuted to strongest extent the law permits.

[Joe Getty]

So we. I'm a Chiefs fan. I watched every Chiefs game this year. I attended one in person at Arrowhead. It seemed pretty clear to me from very beginning of the game. It was not their day. I mean it just, they looked like horrific. Yeah, it was, it was a drubbing and they just looked like they weren't even the same league as the other team for, you know, for one day. Which is why they play the games, as they say.

[Jack Armstrong]

As I said during the super bowl gathering I was at yesterday, it felt like an early season mismatch.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Between a clear playoff team and, and a team that's in a rebuilding year, they got a brand new head coach, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it was, it was just crazy.

[Joe Getty]

We're going to talk commercials in second, but I'm looking up at the TV and they're interviewing one of the offensive tackles for the Eagles. So we talked last week how they are the biggest offensive line ever to play in a, in a Super Bowl. This guy, I'm looking at this guy up there be interviewed and he's in street clothes sitting There with normal sized people and he looks like a circus freak. I mean nobody should be that much bigger and be the same species. But anyway, I thought this stat that they had during the game was amazing. So the, the offensive line for the Eagles averages 663-4. Averages 66340. Super Bowl 1. The average offensive line was for the offensive line was 63245. Almost a hundred pounds lighter per person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I don't care how athletic you are, a guy who outweighs you by a hundred pounds can push you around. I mean so any of your classic who would win between this team and that team thing, very ridiculous for lots of reasons and lots of sports, but well, just physics.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the case of football, you got that much mass moving with that much speed, you got a lot of energy there.

[Joe Getty]

Hundred pounds heavier than they used to be. Geez. I mean because you know a guy, you know plenty of guys at work today who weigh 245. You don't know that many guys that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Weigh 345 and who are quick as.

[Joe Getty]

Cats and can run. Yeah. Are capable of running around. By the way, in terms of being an obese. Before we get to the commercials, which has something to do with this, I was watching some of the commercials and thinking and there was a great commercial like I think at the very end of the game or whatever, a long one for I don't know what it was for. As a guy who's in the advertising business, it's always been interesting to me that if you don't craft a commercial that it's the main takeaway is your product. I'm not sure you accomplished anything. You can have the funniest joke in the world or a cool cameo by a star, but if people don't remember what the product was, I'm not sure what you accomplished. But anyway, this particular commercial was about eating better. And we all need to pull together to care about sugar and fat and the government is conspiring to. I don't know what it was an ad for. But anyway, other than that.

[Jack Armstrong]

A little RFK junior action there.

[Joe Getty]

Other than that one throughout the game. I thought the whole mystery as to why we're obese. Look at these commercials, just non stop. You can get a tub of ranch dressing and 5,000 wings for $9 delivered to your door. I mean it's just endless commercials like that of stuff you should not only not eat much of, probably shouldn't ever eat. How many things were advertised yesterday that you really shouldn't ever eat? You should never Eat a Pizza Hut pizza. You should never eat a Taco Bell. You'd never do any of those things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, so true. And the beauty is westernization. Civilization spreads around the world, obesity goes with it. And every developing nation that gets a GDP more than $3,000 per person, all of a sudden they get fat.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, if you for some reason are new to this show and think I'm one of those people that lecture on how you eat, but and live some sort of pristine lifestyle, no, I guarantee you I've been to fast food joint more recently than you.

[Jack Armstrong]

So speaking of commercials have got the top 10 here. If it proves. Well, you know what I realized a long time ago? I am not America. I am American, but I'm not the masses of America. And I look at this list and I say, oh come on, I haven't.

[Joe Getty]

Seen your long form birth certificate, so that's still up in the air.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, fair enough. So your top 10 and Michael, I see we have all audio from some of them. Just yell at me if we've got the audio. Keep an eye out. Pfizer at number 10 with knockout. Little kid as a boxer. He defeated cancer. And Pfizer is there defeating cancer. It's, it's, it's nice.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta admit, for whatever reason my mood yesterday, I skipped through because I was a little bit behind. I skipped through anything that was gonna tug at heartstrings. I just didn't, I just wasn't in the mood for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I tend to be a little too cynical to enjoy those because I'm thinking, okay, who is it? Ah, Big Pharma that's got a bit of a PR issue going on right now. So they want to remind everybody, hey, we do good stuff too. Which is absolutely true. It's absolutely true. But you know, I don't, I'm not.

[Joe Getty]

A fan of trying to make me sad, weepy or reverent for money. I just, it's just for profit. It just weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. You know, Pfizer came out in a gentlemanly way and said, hey look, there are controversies about pharmaceuticals these days. We understand that. Want to remind you though that among the other things we do are developing the most innovative cancer drugs the world has ever seen. Blah, blah, blah. So don't hate us, we're doing our best. Maybe, fine.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe I'm too close to the advertising business. That I just take it in is we spent $3 million on this 30 second commercial to make you sad so that we can make even more money. That's the Way I take it, we.

[Jack Armstrong]

Want you to associate us with a beautiful little kid who's defeated cancer so.

[Joe Getty]

We can have more money.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is the number 9 AD Michael clip 20 that's gonna ask you to pay attention. I can't believe it looks better in this place.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, good. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here we go.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh. So good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it is. So this one's real.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that is a sandwich.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll have what she's having. Older ladies need food gasms too. It was Hellman's when Sally met Hellman's take off on the blah blah blah movie, blah blah blah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't. I didn't dig going to the really young chick talking about orgasms.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just don't say the L word out loud.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't hate it.

[Joe Getty]

I was watching with my 13 year old and I just thought. I don't. I don't dig the whole. This is what women sound like when they have an orgasm. If you're lucky.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, again, how fine a point do you need to put on it? Gee money. You can leave some things unsaid. I'd like to sit here. A commercial for restraint, which apparently is lost.

[Joe Getty]

Katie, I just. Thank you, Jack, for clearing that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I was confused. Yeah, I thought you just like, really liked a sandwich. Moving along. Number eight, Uber Eats Century of cravings. Which was a big fun as a football fan. It was seen throughout football history. And yeah, it references to food and stuff like that. It's fine. Number seven was Bud Light no longer down with the trans thing. They wanted you to know over and over again, big men on cul de sac was the theme. Manly tattooed, hard guys shot beer cannons around the neighborhood to jazz up the party. Very amusing.

[Joe Getty]

What's his name? The comedian was a good hire for. For Bud Light for that. Who?

[Jack Armstrong]

Shane Gillis.

[Joe Getty]

Shane Gillis, yeah. He's hilarious. And he is as not politically correct as you can possibly get. So, I mean, he is the right guy. But I thought that was just a good ad all the way around. I thought that was well done.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Number six. So your.

[Joe Getty]

Your mower is also a grill? No, no, no. My grill's a mower.

[Jack Armstrong]

Beautiful. Beautiful. Loved it. Number six, flag 50. It was the girls flag football should be in all 50 states thing. As always with the girl, it just went way, way, way over the top. I love girls. I raised girls. I coached girls. It. It had that feeling of the average girl could beat the hell out of the average NFL lineman because they have girl power, which is Just too much. But it was nice. It was nice. It's fine. Number five. It was the I am somebody ad with the little kids. The NFL with a. I thought that was sweet and beautiful.

[Joe Getty]

I like that. I like that, too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tugged at the heartstrings, but successfully. Lord knows little kids, especially in tough parts of the world, need to know they can be somebody. So that was nice.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And a lot of athletes do go around and doing that sort of stuff, which I think is cool in their neighborhoods. That's what the Walter Payton Award is that they gave before the game. That wasn't a. Just like what I was talking about earlier. We spent $3 million so we could make more. More money. I think they're trying to let you know that a lot of NFL players do good stuff in their community. A lot of athletes do, which I love. Which reminds me, don't let me forget to talk about what Kanye tweeted out the other day. In terms of Make a Wish, kids, if you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope it wasn't crazy as hell.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it was crazy as hell.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, Jack, we're ready for the top four, but I'm looking at the clock. We probably ought to take a break. Let's come back with those.

[Joe Getty]

Cool. I like that. Yeah. Kanye tweeted out a whole bunch of crazy stuff. Like 80 tweets in a 24 hour period, and they're all over the place. Nuts. And he was trying so hard to psych. Hitler's my hero. I mean, just like, all kinds of really, really trying hard to get attention. Like, and one of them was, what reminded me of this was, I skipped three Make a Wish meetings last week, and all three kids were in wheelchairs.

[Jack Armstrong]

He tweeted out for some reason, you know, I would. I would say to Kanye, look, we get that you're completely fruit loops. You don't have to keep trying. You're good. You're solid.

[Joe Getty]

Are you trying to be provocative or whatever? We'll get those top super bowl commercials and other stuff on the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. I hate you because we from different neighborhoods.

[Joe Getty]

I hate you because you look different.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate you because I don't understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you. I hate you because I think you hate me.

[Joe Getty]

Cause I need someone to blame.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cause you talk different.

[Joe Getty]

Because you act different.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you're just different. Man, I hate that things are so.

[Joe Getty]

Bad that we have to do a commercial about it. Me too. I hate you because you broke Giselle's heart.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate you because you Kept beating my favorite teams back in the day again. The whole race relations are terrible and awful. And everybody knows it is invented by DEI to gain power for Neo Marxists. So. So anti hate and anti that commercial. Thanks for nothing.

[Joe Getty]

So, anybody want more dip?

[Jack Armstrong]

So let's see. Number 10, Pfizer knockout. Number nine, Hellman's win. Sally met Hellman's number. Then century cravings big men on cul DE SAC flag 50 girl power. Number five was the NFL itself. I am somebody. Nice ad. Number four. Go ahead, Michael. Hit it. Mom, dad, we have something to tell you. You have a twin brother we never told you about. I'm sorry. What's his name? Other David. You called him Other David? If there's two Davids, one has to be Other David. Where is he? Left him in America. Are you Beckham? Dave Beckham. There's something I have to tell you.

[Joe Getty]

My brother is a famous soccer player.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, so how famous are you? Like Matt Damon famous? Maybe. Ben Affleck, famously so charming. Stella Artois. David Beckham and Matt Damon as his twin brother Dave in America.

[Joe Getty]

I missed that commercial somehow. I didn't see that one.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was fine. It was the celebrities winking at ourselves and them.

[Joe Getty]

And did it air after the Chiefs were already so beaten that I couldn't watch anymore? Maybe.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do not know.

[Joe Getty]

Two minutes in, roughly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. Yeah. When was that? Not number three. Very charming. Very funny. Michelob Ultra. The Ultra Hustle with Christopher Walken and what's her name. Hustling youngsters at the great game of pickleball.

[Joe Getty]

That's not Christopher Walken. That's. What's that guy's name? No, it's not. Come on, come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no, you're right. You're right. That's not. Of course that's. What's his face. Everybody knows.

[Joe Getty]

It'll pop into my head. Michael, look at me. Oh, God. Geez.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, where are you? Wow. Why are you yelling at people?

[Joe Getty]

Because she's disappointed. I'm trying to figure it out for you. We're working on it, okay? Damn it. It's attacking the tip of my tongue. It's driving me crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's Christopher Walken.

[Joe Getty]

You can just call him that if you want. I suppose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Other David. And then we get into America's love of schmaltz. Just unforgivable schmaltz. Number two was lay's potatoes. The little farmer about a little who. Who kills herself to raise one little potato, then adds it to the giant cart full of potatoes at her dad's potato farm to become potato chips. And my eyes, I just cried for an hour. It was so touching. The little girl worked so hard.

[Joe Getty]

You are hardened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know. I just feel like a cynical, hardened man. So obvious. No, I'm not cynical about real life. I'm cynical about potato chip companies trying to manipulate my emotions. And then if you like that, you'll love this.

[Joe Getty]

Over potato chips of all things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Little girls of normal weight, unlike her dad's customers anyway. And then number one Jack, if you love that one, you'd like that one. You love that one. First delivery, Budweiser. The plucky little clydesdale who in similar fashion to potato girl, saw the keg roll off the cart and then worked and labored and walked for miles to deliver the keg to the bar because little hors believe in a timely beer delivery.

[Joe Getty]

That was the number one A.D. according to A.D. meter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta be kidding me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm telling you.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I hate, I hate America. I hate you people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Willem Dafoe.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, there you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just popped into my.

[Joe Getty]

One of my all time favorite actors. He's in Wild at Heart, one of my all time favorite movies. I love, I love Willem Dafoe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Close friend of Christopher the horse rolling.

[Joe Getty]

The beer keg to the bar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, cute little animals and cute little girls just. But that's fine if that's what people like. Give. Give the people what they want.

[Joe Getty]

No, I can't. I can't give people what they want. If you want that, go somewhere else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thirty seconds ago, I was hardened, folks. You remember that.

[Joe Getty]

CBS out with some poll numbers yesterday. Really interesting. Since Trump's been at it for a while, how do people feel about various things? We can tell you that, among other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Things, Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Joe Getty]

You know, the prime minister said this weekend to a group of Canadian businessmen, he was a private meeting, he said that your wish for Canada to be the 51st state is a, quote, real thing. Is it a real thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it is. I think Canada would be much better off being a 51st state because we.

[Joe Getty]

Lose $200 billion a year with Canada.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm not going to let that happen.

[Joe Getty]

It's too much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why are we paying $200 billion a year essentially in subsidy to Canada now, if they're a 51st state, I don't mind doing it.

[Joe Getty]

Part of the super bowl interview that Trump did, It has become a tradition for the sitting president to do an interview before the biggest television audience of the year. And who wouldn't take advantage of that opportunity. Except Joe Biden didn't, because he couldn't talk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because he. Same reason Kamala passed on Joe Rogan. Right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what? I'm sorry, I hate to quibble, but the whole idea that trade deficit is a ripoff is just so not right. I don't know why he's so stuck on that. Whether it's just a bar, anything. But we have a giant country with loads of money. You have a little country with much less money. So, yes, we buy more from you than you buy from us. It's fine.

[Joe Getty]

Trump is the ultimate troll. That's what I think he was doing there. And this happened on Friday. Trump revoked Joe Biden's security clearance, stating there was no need for the former president's continued access. And then like an hour later, Trump said he planned to take control of the Kennedy Senator Center. That's where they have. If you're in somebody in Washington, D.C. you go to the Kennedy center to watch singers and dancing and all kinds of stuff like that. It's a. It's a big deal. It's a big. You have access to this and other people don't. It shows how important you are. Anyway, Trump said he planned to take control of the Kennedy center and intended to fire several board members and install himself as chairman.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. No more drag shows. That was his main point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

Which is fine. I just find that awesome. So CBS out with their polling yesterday. The overall number being Trump's approval rating is at 53%. It's the highest approval rating he's ever had last term. And this term, after what the mainstream media calls is a awful hectic. What will he do next? Scary, tumultuous time that has Americans reeling. He's got the highest approval rating he's ever had. So there's that mentioned already. He's got 59%, let's call it 60. It's a round number. Support for deporting immigrants illegally in the United States with no qualifications on that question. How do you feel about Trump's program to deport immigrants illegally in the US 59% approval. How about sending US troops to the US Mexico border, which the media again portrayed as just insane? 64% approval. So two out of three Americans. Two out of three Americans are in favor of that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Outrageous, racist, militaristic. Yeah, Never mind.

[Joe Getty]

It's 50. 50 on large detention centers while determining who should be deported. That's a 50, 50 issue. Trump's handling of the Israel Hamas conflict. He's above water on it. 5446. But the idea of taking over Gaza, which he doesn't actually mean to do. No, see, that's the thing. There's no intention of actually doing that. But anyway, would it be a good idea for the United States to take over Gaza? Only 13% think it's a good idea. And you 13% are nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would agree. I just think with Trump, it's like, I mean, I see a big mansion on the water in Miami and I think, or maybe I'd say it at my wife over a cocktail. Boy, it'd be great to own a house like that, huh? But Trump, because he has billions of dollars, like, it'd be great to own a house like that. And I wonder how much it is. Let me think about the. The profit, depreciation, blah, blah, blah. So he can't help himself with Gaza, I think, as a real estate developer. But my God, if the estimates are, it would be a miracle if the rubble were cleared out in 15 years. Just clearing out the rubble while enduring constant guerrilla warfare sounds like a great gig.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. That's its own story. We'll have to talk more about that later. Elon, Musk and Doge, their influence over government operations and spending should be. Your choices of how much Elon should be influential are a lot, some not much. None. 23 for a lot. 28 for some. Which gets you over 50%. Again, not portrayed that way on any media outlet other than Fox. Not one. How much of people try to be at least neutral if you want to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have viewers, they're too bubbles, they're too obsessed, they're cultists. Yeah. And a story like this, you almost. I wish there were a scientific way to do this, to figure out to what extent it's been portrayed negatively with horror by the media. And then if you end up at 51% on an issue that's been portrayed nonstop is akin to puppy murder. Then you realize, wow, that's got some really good core belief. And if you had only neutral coverage, the numbers would be much higher.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I always leave that out of these sorts of discussions. Imagine if it got neutral coverage as opposed to everything you take in other than Fox is negative about all the issues we just talked about. How high would the approval be then if. If more people were comfortable saying out loud what they think? Yeah, I think we ought to boot out illegals. It probably way higher than 60%.

[Jack Armstrong]

And as I said earlier today, the legacy media needs to be punished for what they're doing. Let me think of a good Punishment, they're dying. It's taking care of itself.

[Joe Getty]

I want to get to the New York Times editorial board as soon as I'm done with these, because it'll give you an idea of they're, they're doubling down US Tariffs on goods from. And they go country by country. Do you oppose or favor? Solid majority approve of tariffs on China. This one struck me as people are, understand this better than I realized. 56% say, yeah, tariffs on China, but then it drops below 50% for all the others. Mexico, 56 oppose. Europe, 60% approves. Canada, 62% opposed. So there you go again. It's a negotiating position anyway, I think, for the most part. And this one, this could actually be trouble for Trump. Overturn. Over. Over. Time is the word time. If this keeps up, Trump's focus on lowering prices is 2/3 say not enough? 2/3 of Americans say Trump's focus on lowering prices is not enough. So that might be a messaging thing. He just doesn't talk about it enough. It seems like there's all these other things going on and you're not talking about that enough. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

But in this sort of, this topic in particular, people don't measure it theoretically. They measure it at the grocery checkout line. And for Trump to, I think, make enough progress to really get a lot of credit for it, there would have to be a period of deflation where prices came back down. And, and that is a really difficult thing to pull off, to actually deflate prices in a controlled way, but not lead to a deflationary spiral. I just, I think the best you can do is, is stem the flow, stem the, the rise in inflation, try to cut it back to minimal and let wages rise.

[Joe Getty]

One more where they give you a whole bunch of different words that could describe Donald Trump. And you, you check them. If you think this describes Donald Trump, 70% of people said tough. You might think, well, whatever. That doesn't necessarily mean good. Tough tends to win. Tough tends to win out. Politicians that are seen as tough. Weak is what you don't want to be. It's like Bill Clinton's old thing, wrong and strong is better than right and weak. Wrong and strong beats out so tough. 70%. He's going to do pretty well as long as he's seen as that energetic. 63%, which is not bad when you're 80 years old and fat. Focused. 60% effective 58%. Those are some good adjectives for Donald Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I like 70% say he's doing what he promised in his campaign, 70%. And just a final note for Trump skeptics and Trump neutrals, you know, Trump concerns like myself, the beauty of our checks and balances, the counterbalances in our system of government are working right now. There have been a couple of judges who weighed in. I think they're wrong on some of it. They're lefty judges. But we have a system to deal with with that that will shake out. There have been a couple of things Trump announced or, and, and a number of his Republican colleagues pointed out, hey, that's probably a little much or that would screw this up. And they reel it back in. So far at least, I think any excesses are being managed pretty well. And so it's, we're left with mostly really, really good stuff.

[Joe Getty]

So here's the New York Times editorial board, their headline being for the Sunday edition of maybe the most important newspaper in the world, their editorial board. Now is not the time to tune out. This fits in with what I was saying earlier. I live in a very progressive town and I was at some little gathering and there was a lot of how you holding up? Okay, like what, what is with you people especially love being scared, especially given these polling numbers. We're just like, it's, he's not like way out of mainstream into crazyville. Obviously, based on those polling numbers you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just saw, Trump, with 17% approval has just disbanded the Senate. Yeah, it's not like that.

[Joe Getty]

Right now is not the time to tune out, says the New York Times editorial board. Don't get distracted, don't get overwhelmed, don't get paralyzed and pulled into the chaos that President Trump and his allies are purposely creating. See, I don't think it feels that chaotic to about 50 to 60% of the country. I don't think it feels chaotic to them. All of this is intended to keep the country on its back heels so President Trump can blaze ahead in his drive for maximum executive power so no one can stop the audacious, ill conceived and frequently illegal agenda being advanced by his administration. For goodness sake, don't tune. It goes on and on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trying to save their subscriptions or what?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I don't know. What are you talking about would be my response. What are you talking?

[Jack Armstrong]

Chaotic, illegal, unconstitutional? Yeah, we have a system for that. It'll be fine.

[Joe Getty]

Some of it might be illegal, some of it might be unconstitutional. They'll be worked out. But what are you talking about? It doesn't, it doesn't feel that crazy to me. I'll tell you what feels Crazy is like, a lot of this stuff hasn't happened before. Somebody decided that, hey, maybe we shouldn't spend $60 million on trans operas in Ireland or whatever the hell some of this stuff is.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm reminded of Occam's razor that often the most obvious answer is the. The one, and this is this. It might not be Occam's Razor. Maybe it's Occam's beard trimmer. If you see a legacy media outlet saying, stay tuned, don't keep clicking on us, Keep reading us, please. It's because they really want people to keep clicking on them.

[Joe Getty]

Even Bill Maher on his show the other night said the Department of Education should be abolished. Bill Moore. So we're going to talk Department of Education at some point. Lots of stuff. I hope you can stick around.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

I realize I'm no longer in the main demo of what they're advertising too, but I still don't think Kendrick Lamar cracks 25% in terms of the audience that wants to see that for the halftime show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, probably so. I don't. I think it's a thankless task. I mean, trying to pick entertainment that everybody agrees on or even a huge percentage of Americans agree on for one event. It's just a really hard thing.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not just trying to be an, you know, old white guy or whatever, but wouldn't Foo Fighters get to, like, 40%, maybe of people that are aware of them and would be pleased to see them?

[Jack Armstrong]

As we were discussing off the air, the. The pregame show with trombone Shorty and New Orleans jazz musicians and stuff like that, I. I wouldn't mind steering into the place you are, as long as you're in one of the great music capitals of the world.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. Couple of the best Dixieland jazz bands up there doing their thing. You see that marching band dancing around pre game.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fabulous.

[Joe Getty]

So cool.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. That seems like a better idea to me. We just found out that we were reminded that Jay Z has that contract to produce the super bowl halftime shows. After the cop knelt on George Floyd and everything had to change for some reason, he got the contract to produce the super bowl halftime show.

[Joe Getty]

More of that marching band, whatever that is, from Louisiana. I would have loved that for the halftime show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so a couple of tech notes here. Do we have theme for this, Michael? Tech notes with Armstrong? We don't. That's too bad. Should have come up with some.

[Joe Getty]

I was hoping a trombone of some sort in honor of New Orleans Deep Seek.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Deep Seek Chinese AI thing that either was cheap and produced with a few chips that they got from the dollar store.

[Joe Getty]

A Sputnik moment, Joe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or it was a complete lie from the lying commie Chinese. Anyway, various tech writers are actually trying the thing out and the one thing that strikes them is it's got no fences. Now some of the other stuff is a little politically correct. What does that ask it. Tell us about January 6th. Tell us about Black Lives Matter riots. You'll get wildly different politically. You know, filtered stuff. For instance, you want to modify bird flu to infect even more people. Just ask Deep Seek. They'll tell you how to do it. Wow. You want a manifesto and defense of Hitler wiping out the Jews. They're more than happy to do it for you.

[Joe Getty]

So this would be like tell me how to make an effective bomb out of a crock pot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure it would.

[Joe Getty]

It would come up with the information for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or a social media campaign to promote cutting and self harm among teens.

[Joe Getty]

Whoa.

[Jack Armstrong]

More than happy to dish that up. These are some of the potentially hazardous things. It's much easier to get in deep seat, blah blah. God.

[Joe Getty]

I think that's inevitable. I mean trying to have guardrails on, I just, I don't see how that's ever going to work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't either. And even if they were to design filters, ways to avoid it in say 9 of the big systems out of 10, that 10th one would be a rogue and the bad guys would find out about it.

[Joe Getty]

And the weird thing with AI would be you could go on your AI, I think and say how do I get around the restrictions on questions about how to make a pipe bomb? And it would say I would try this chat GPT4 that exists.

[Jack Armstrong]

Blah blah blah.

[Joe Getty]

I think it tell you, let's see.

[Jack Armstrong]

One Palo Alto Silicon Valley threatened Intelligence Incident Response division got detailed instructions for making a Molotov cocktail. How to evade law enforcement. Let's see how to produce malware. All sorts of wow, nefarious stuff like.

[Joe Getty]

You'Ve talked about before. How, how is it not. How is it just going to be? Not endless hacking. I want to hack into my competitors lumber company's website. Show me how to do it. Mess up their, mess up their website so it doesn't work anymore for me. Would you? Something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well I think that's going to happen 24 7, 365. Right. And any dipstick who knows nothing about programming can pull it off with the right prompts. And if you don't know what the right prompts are. I'm sure those will be available for you online as well, so. Yeah. I wonder whether humankind will be able to cleverly come up with defenses against this. As cleverly as we come up with a way to came up with Destroy the world. Perpetrate it. Yeah. Or maybe we all unplug everything and go back to talking to each other. Hello. Then this from the fabulous Jeff Fowler at the Washington Post, who won't talk.

[Joe Getty]

Anymore for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh really?

[Joe Getty]

And we haven't had him on in forever. We keep reaching out to him and he doesn't respond or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jeff, come on, buddy. What's the story? Is it something we said? Let's talk it out. Anyway, he's been auditioning various artificial intelligence systems and he said. I recently asked a new artificial intelligence tool from the creators Chat GPT to do an impossible task. Find me cheap eggs in my neighborhood. In under 10 minutes. The AI called operator, bought a dozen eggs and paid a human to deliver them to my house. All on he said that Science fiction. Incredible. Except I never asked it to actually buy the eggs. The AI went rogue without my approval. It authorized my credit card to buy a dozen eggs for a whopping $31.43.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's a little troubling. Hey, how much would it cost me to go to Naples this summer? We have booked your hotel and flight. We have charged your credit card $19,000.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also and saved you $125 by booking it non refundable.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or you know, operator, that's the name of the thing. Operator, what's the best size or the best ranked mid size SUV? Congratulations, you now own an Audi Q5.

[Joe Getty]

How about this one?

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa. What?

[Joe Getty]

Operator, my wife and I have been arguing a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good news.

[Joe Getty]

A hooker is at your door already. I've charged her to your credit card. If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Gettysburg on demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

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