I Lack Explosiveness

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – “I Lack Explosiveness”

Episode Date: January 26, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Regular Co-host: Katie

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Overview

This episode covers several pressing topics in Armstrong & Getty’s signature blend of candid, sometimes irreverent, always opinionated conversation. The show opens with a critique of reactions to a recent law enforcement shooting in Minneapolis, segues into a frank discussion about biological realities of delaying parenthood, and analyzes ongoing unrest over immigration enforcement. Other segments include commentary on Kanye West’s public apology, evolving immigration politics, and the oddities of cultural history exhibits. The show’s trademark banter and interstitial humor—including a segment on exercise and jump ropes—offer moments of levity amid serious debate.

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Main Discussion Topics and Key Insights

1. Minneapolis Shooting and Public Reactions

(Starts ~02:31, deep dive at ~25:32 & ~28:21)

• Topic: Reaction to a fatal shooting of a young ER nurse by federal agents (ICE or Border Patrol) in Minneapolis.
• Insight: Jack criticizes the rush to judgment by officials and activists, as well as inflammatory rhetoric by Mayor Frye and Governor Walz. He laments the lack of measured, responsible guidance from leaders.
  • Quote (Jack, 03:16): “The only people leaping to definitive conclusions... are Russian and Chinese bots, idiots, and government officials at every level.”
• Reaction: They discuss the pressure to immediately politicize tragic events, with Katie and Joe emphasizing the necessity for facts and due process before conclusions.

Notable Segment:

• Tim Walz Critique (25:48): Katie condemns Governor Walz’s comparison of immigration enforcement to Gestapo tactics against Jews, calling it an irresponsible escalation.

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2. Taboos and Realities of Delaying Parenthood

(Starts ~04:48, main segment from 07:59–16:46)

• Article Focus: The group analyzes an op-ed by Dr. Sara Poggi, a maternal-fetal medicine physician, on the risks of waiting to have children.
• Key Points:
  • Current sociocultural narratives empower delaying childbirth, but ignore clear biological limits and health risks for mother and baby.
  • Even IVF and egg-freezing technologies don’t eliminate these risks.
    • Quote (Katie, 09:41): “There’s way more health risks involved.”
    • Quote (Jack, 09:44): “It’s unmistakable biological fact.”
  • The term “geriatric pregnancy” is commonly used for women 35+—seen as harsh but medically factual.
    • Quote (Joe, 13:00): “Any woman 35 and over... you’re known as a geriatric pregnancy.”
• Theme: The hosts argue society does women a disservice by not talking openly about these realities, stressing the importance of facts over ideology or fear of offending.

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3. Reactions to Kanye West’s Apology

(20:28–22:55)

• Event: Kanye West takes out a full-page Wall Street Journal ad apologizing to Black and Jewish communities, citing mental illness and brain injury as contributors to his problematic behavior.
  • Quote (Katie, 20:50): “I lost touch with reality. Things got worse the longer I ignored the problem. I said and did things I deeply regret.”
• Insight: The hosts reflect on how even privileged people with access to top-tier care struggle with mental illness, and ponder the difficulty society has defining lines for acceptable behavior in the context of mental health.
  • Quote (Jack, 22:31): “Mental illness is so hard; we’re at the very dawn of understanding it, I think, as humans.”

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4. Immigration, Enforcement, and Political Fallout

(27:03–37:15)

• Analysis: Ongoing tension over the presence of millions of undocumented immigrants, continued riots, and the administration’s handling of the Minneapolis situation.
• Soundbites:
  • Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton’s previous tough stances on border enforcement are highlighted for contrast to current officials.
  • Quote (Katie, 27:51): “We have to send a clear message that just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay. Yeah, we have laws, and if you don’t like them, you know, cry and write your congressperson and try to get them changed.”
• Security & Protest Dynamics:
  • The hosts reference an interview (clip from Ammon Blair, ~33:11) suggesting that organized Marxist groups are actively provoking violence in hopes of pushing out federal law enforcement, asserting this is a deliberate, coordinated effort.
    • Quote (Joe Getty, 33:11): “We’re seeing a whole-of-government approach to completely eradicate the immigration enforcement together... agents are trying to figure out exactly what to do just to conduct immigration enforcement.”
    • Quote (Jack, 34:16): “This is a completely organized movement, as I said, using seditious activities to completely subvert and overthrow the federal government through immigration.”
• Strategy Call: The group discusses the potential necessity of a “strategic retreat” by federal agents to avoid further escalation, but worry this will embolden extremists.

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5. Cultural Critique: Historical Sites and Politics

(43:43–47:12)

• Anecdote: Jack describes a visit to Philadelphia’s President’s House, where almost all informational signage now focuses on slavery and DEI, arguing that obsession with such framing can distort historical context.
  • Quote (Jack, 46:22): “All of the display signs, the entire experience... became about slavery and DEI. It became a giant ‘white people are bad’ museum.”

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6. Lighter Moments: Exercise and “Lack Explosiveness”

(43:31–44:43)

• Jump Rope Segment: Katie buys a jump rope for exercise and the hosts joke about how difficult it actually is; Jack quips about his own lack of rapid athletic ability.
  • Quote (Jack, 44:30): “That’s exactly what I lack. Explosiveness.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rush to Judgment – Social Media and Authorities:

  • Jack, 03:16: “The only people leaping to definitive conclusions... are Russian and Chinese bots, idiots, and government officials at every level.”

• Biological Facts vs. Social Taboos:

  • Katie, 09:41: “There’s way more health risks involved.”
  • Jack, 09:44: “It’s unmistakable biological fact.”
  • Joe, 13:00: “Any woman 35 and over... you’re known as a geriatric pregnancy.”

• Mental Health and Kanye West’s Apology:

  • Katie, 20:50: “I lost touch with reality... Things got worse the longer I ignored the problem.”
  • Jack, 22:31: “We’re at the very dawn of understanding [mental illness], I think, as humans.”

• Immigration Enforcement and Radical Organizing:

  • Joe Getty, 33:11: “We’re seeing a whole-of-government approach to completely eradicate the immigration enforcement together...”
  • Jack, 34:16: “This is a completely organized movement, as I said, using seditious activities to completely subvert... the federal government through immigration.”
  • Jack, 35:15: “The hardcore activists are over the moon with joy that two people have died. That’s precisely what they were hoping.”

• Cultural Conflict at Historical Sites:

  • Jack, 46:22: “It became a giant ‘white people are bad’ museum.”

• Humor and Self-Deprecation (Episode Title):

  • Jack, 44:30: “That’s exactly what I lack. Explosiveness.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 02:31 | Minneapolis shooting – Rush to judgment | | 04:48 | Realism, family structure, and parenthood taboos | | 07:59 | Dr. Poggi’s article: Delaying childbirth, biological realities | | 13:00 | “Geriatric pregnancy” terminology and realities | | 15:54 | Demographics: Rising age of first-time parents | | 20:28 | Kanye West’s public apology, mental health | | 25:32 | Gov. Walz’s rhetoric; escalation in Minnesota | | 28:21 | Handling immigration crisis; enforcement and protest violence | | 33:11 | Ammon Blair: Organized radical provocateurs and law enforcement challenges | | 43:31 | Jump rope segment: Humor and aging | | 44:30 | “I lack explosiveness” (episode title quip) | | 46:22 | Philadelphia historic site: DEI and history critique | | 47:05 | Warning about political pendulum, historical policy implications |

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

In true Armstrong & Getty fashion, the tone is a mix of bracing realism, skepticism toward both media and government, and moments of biting humor. The crew repeatedly call for mature, fact-based, “grown-up” public discourse—especially in times of crisis—while critiquing political posturing and the suppression of uncomfortable truths (whether about police shootings, immigration policy, or family demographics). Levity emerges in personal stories and self-mockery, keeping the tone engaging even during weighty content.

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For listeners wanting the big picture:
This episode is a wide-ranging critique of modern American discourse—on law, family, culture, and politics—punctuated by Armstrong & Getty’s blend of deadpan realism and self-aware banter. It's a sharp snapshot of the week's controversies, with memorable moments both serious and silly.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. We began the show, as you might expect, talking about the situation in Minneapolis, more specifically the shooting of the young ER nurse by the ICE agents and or ICE or Border Patrol. Anyway, the federal agents and we will continue to talk about that and look at some other aspects of it in just a little while if you can stay tuned. I will tell you this though, and this was one of my headlines as I tweeted speaking of social media, it's pretty disturbing that the only people leaping to definitive conclusions. This was in like not long at all after the shooting. The only people leaping to definitive conclusions are Russian and Chinese bots, idiots and government officials at every level. And a complete lack of, of anybody saying a life has been lost. Now is when we slow down and are extremely careful about investigating. We're not going to leap to any conclusions. We need to approach this seriously. Nobody said that from the Department of Homeland Security, although Trump did say it a little bit later on. He said we're going to investigate every aspect of this, which was good, but DHS was terrible. Mayor Frye and Governor Waltz ought to both be in federal prison whipping up the people to physically resist federal agents just doing their jobs. Just terrible. Where are the adults? Goodness sakes. Now turning from adults to babies. And I have invited Katie to participate in this. Not that she needs an invitation to participate in anything, but quit doing other stuff and do this.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought this is interesting. Jack first brought me the quote, as I recall that, and I think George Will may have said this doesn't matter, but that the one thing a conservative must be if they're going to be a conservative is a realist. You can't be like live in a fantasy land and call yourself a conservative. You got to be able to recognize what is right. And it's always bothered me. And we're going to talk, we're talking about having children. It's always bothered us a lot of people, probably Katie too, that a lot of topics that involve families or having children or whatever, fertility even there's there are facts that you dare not say out loud because somebody might be offended or it might hurt somebody's feelings or it might sound like they're you're judging them or you're blaming the victim or whatever. And I've always hated that crap because there's never been a fact that I should know that I haven't gotten over being butt hurt pretty quickly and said, yeah, you know what? I'm better off knowing that that's how you have a happy life. You know what I'm driving at? Am I being too vague? No, no, no. Totally makes sense. Right? Right. This seems like a good idea, Joseph, but it's going to come back and bite you in the ass. And I might think, oh, really? I don't want to hear that. But then I think about it and think, yeah, it's probably worth thinking about.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the same way that if the government becomes the substitute for a father and husband is the bread, the government is the breadwinner, the government will raise your child. It's going to cause the disintegration of the family. And it's way better to have a mom and a dad, two committed parents, than a single parent. Now, is that judging or criticizing single parents?

[Katie]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it's not. I mean, all the data is unmistakable. Go to prison. Figure out how many of those guys have an active, healthy relationship with their dad. With their dads, Rather, the percentage will be in the single digits, maybe the low double digits, 10, 12%. It's just unequivocal. Take all the hookers off the streets and off the poles at the strip clubs. How many of those people have healthy, good, ongoing relationships with their dads, for instance? You're gonna see an incredibly small percentage. So is that any, in any way a criticism of single moms? No, of course not. It's heroic at trying to do both those jobs on your own. It sucks that you're in that circumstance. Maybe it was the best thing for you. Maybe it was the best thing for the kid. I'm not judging that either. But if we can't say it's unfortunate because the other thing would have been better, then we lose kind of the fences on any sort of good decision making. Which brings us to this. It's an article written by Sarah Poggy. Poggy. P O, G, G. I. I don't know. Po.

[Joe Getty]

I had fun with that last name.

[Jack Armstrong]

Po. Really? Yeah. Huh. Is that.

[Joe Getty]

Did they call her Pudgy? No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, good.

[Joe Getty]

It helped that she wasn't, but no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she's a. A maternal fetal medicine physician, which. Not an ob GYN I guess, but deals with moms and babies and reproductive medicine.

[Joe Getty]

Just met with one of those on Friday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she. She basically goes through, like, the birth.

[Joe Getty]

Plan and the health aspect of it, medical background and stuff like that of the mom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, so kind of a non specialist doctor who includes the, the, the specifics of being pregnant and giving birth and that sort of thing into the overall. Oh, that's good. That's good. I hadn't thought of it in that framework, but that's good. But her, her piece is what I've learned from watching people wait to have children. As doctors, we owe our patients the truth. You cannot defy biology. And she talks about all of the many, many, many patients she's had that have been convinced that it's perfectly fine to not have kids until you're 30, 35, 40, 45 years old. That it's just fine. That's empowering, it's good you can establish your career. It's all upside. And that's her objection. There's almost nothing sociological in this article. It's all purely biological fact. If the longer you wait, the more problems you are going to have and the more problems the baby is going to have. Right.

[Katie]

Period.

[Joe Getty]

There's way more health risks involved.

[Katie]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's unmistakable biological fact. But because, and again, you know, the media and education are in the hands of leftist America. And so there's, I think, a greater tendency than there would be to say, wow, that's uncomfortable. And it goes against the whole women can have great careers and motherhood isn't everything and you can be you and. But you can have everything. Blah, blah. Because it goes against that narrative. We just won't say anything. I think that does an incredible disservice to women and the babies too.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And frankly, I don't have any particular argument in this other than realism. I happen to have. Judy and I had our kids pretty young, certainly young by modern standards. And you know, there are logistical, emotional parenting advantages and disadvantages. I'm not trying to advocate one particular thing. In fact, that's just the point. Let's get all the facts. She writes.

[Joe Getty]

And well, and with the facts.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, I'll be 37 when I.

[Joe Getty]

Have little Jack, Joe, Mike. Mike and I waited for various reasons, but I was and am fully aware of the health risks that come along with it. Luckily, I've dodged those and my doctor says everything looks great, but I was aware of it and people need to be aware of it when they're planning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Out having a family. Right, Right. By the way, Joe, Jack.

[Katie]

Mike.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mike rolls off the tongue better. Just saying, just saying. Joe, Jack, Mike. Mike works. There we go. It was that easy. So she writes, I've been a maternal fetal medicine doctor for more than two decades, and unfortunately, I'm used to working with patients who are going through unimaginable losses. And the article opens with one poor would be mom whose situation is just so sad. But she's dealt with so many of those people when they are technically considered to be at, quote, advanced maternal age. Did you. And I'm not asking you, Katie, but did any of you. Have you ever heard that term advanced maternal age? That means you are at an age where it is much more of a minefield for you and the kid. Despite amazing innovations in fertility medicine, women who reach a certain age are forced to face an inconvenient truth. There is a biological window of fertility and for safely bearing healthy children, and men have one, too. But saying this out loud has somehow become taboo. Instead, young women and men are being comforted by the false premise that childbearing may be delayed without consequence. The science says differently. And while developments like egg freezing and IVF have contributed mightily to extending fertility, they are also not the guarantees the public perceives them to be. I know you have taught us, Katie, that it's a hell of a lot harder than. I mean, we've. We've made jokes for years about turkey basters. Oh, yeah. If it were. If it were merely the introduction of a turkey baster.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, a piece of cake and not as expensive.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure it's an idiotic comparison now that we know a little bit more about that. And also, just a note.

[Joe Getty]

Anyone? Any woman 35 and over that's gonna have. That gets pregnant, you're known as a geriatric pregnancy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe we could soften that term, even. I. Mr. Realism. I thought that was. That was a bit harsh, but it's.

[Joe Getty]

It's the fact.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's reality. Yeah, it really, really is. She writes, I've always been careful about how I speak about this with my patients. And in public, I never want my patients to feel as if I'm judging them, because I am not. And I check my politics at the door. That's. Well, that's. I guess, my introduction. That's what I'm talking about. To offer something that is plainly true feels like judging in some situations. And I get that because maybe you're picking your facts to judge somebody, but I don't know. I think we've all got to get over being too concerned about that sort of thing. All right, quick word from our friends at Simplisafe, then back into this SimpliSafe home security is absolutely revolutionary in that it uses AI powered cameras outside your home to spot real threats and instantly alert live agents. The advantage being obvious, those agents can take action while the intruder is still outside. It's not an alarm that goes off after they've smashed in your window and taken your stuff. And unlike a lot of your other allegedly high techy stuff that like gives you an alert, hey, dude, there's somebody breaking your window. I'm asleep, I'm in a meeting, I'm on an airplane. Number one, I never got this. Number two, what the hell do you want me to do about it? Simply saves live agents take the ball and run with it. They turn on the spotlights, call the cops, speak to the scumbag and tell them to stop. The cops are on their way. It's fabulous right now. You can get 50% off any new system this month. Only great time to upgrade to security that actually helps stop crime before it starts. Go to simplisafe.com Armstrong that's simplisafe.com Armstrong there's no safe like simply safe. So anyway, this gal, this doctor who checked her politics at the door and didn't want to feel like she was judging people after Charlie Kirk's murder, interestingly felt inspired to speak out. Most of Kirk's views were diametrically opposed to mine, she writes, but we agreed on one key issue. Don't wait too long to have children. That is so interesting. She was inspired by Charlie in that way. Even though she disliked a lot of his beliefs. She semi quotes him as saying more people are waiting until their 30s to have children. He went on to say, quote, and I would also tell young ladies, you can always go back to your career later, that there is a window where you primarily should pursue marriage and having children. And that is a beautiful thing. It's a natural thing, it's not a limiting thing. Anyway, that's enough of that. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back to the proceedings the co host, Jack Armstrong.

[Katie]

Hey everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

The mean age at first birth for mothers increased from 26 and a half in 2016 to 27 and a half in 2023. So my gosh, it's increasing, you know, three months every year and from 1972 to 2015. Now this is obviously a bigger span. The mean age of fathers increased from 27 and a half to 31.

[Katie]

Well that's never going to change and it's going to keep going that direction. Evolution is going to have to catch up with other things. Life expectancy and cultural changes and all kinds of things. Because that ain't going to change.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, give it 400,000 years and evolution will quote unquote catch up to that.

[Katie]

AI will be having our babies by 2028, so if you're not careful, we'll.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have plunging birth rates. Oh shoot, look at that.

[Katie]

We'll have breaking Kanye west news coming up, among other things. Then we'll talk about the dang shooting.

[Jack Armstrong]

All on the way.

[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Katie]

Because sometimes it just puts the car cries a little.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I like that joke. You know, I had no idea what that punchline was going to be, but I knew it would make me uncomfortable. That was good.

[Katie]

We're going to talk Minnesota next segment. And so there are reports now that Trump is dispatching Tom Holman to Minnesota where he hasn't been really involved. And the other reports are that Holman and Kristi Gnome are not on speaking terms and haven't been for a while. They do not get along. So this might be a sign that Trump has decided, all right, Kristi Noem is not the person to be the face of this. So anyway, and he's right, by the way, if he's decided that, yeah, Breaking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kanye west news.

[Katie]

Breaking news Donkey.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Kanye west took out a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal. What did that cost?

[Katie]

Kanye west full page ad in the Wall Street Journal issuing an apology to black and Jewish communities after years of spewing racist and anti Semitic beliefs. This is an interesting way to handle it as a musician. Full page ad in the wall.

[Jack Armstrong]

Crazy.

[Katie]

Yeah, he says I lost touch with reality. Things got worse the longer I ignored the problem. I said and did things I deeply regret. Some of the people I love most I treated the worst, he wrote in this ad in the Wall Street Journal. You endured fear, confusion, humiliation, the exhaustion of trying to have someone who was at times unrecognizable. Looking back, I became attached, detached from my true self now. So all that doesn't really matter. I mean, the ups and downs of a musician or whatever, this is the part that I think is interesting for everyone. In that fractured state, I gravitated toward the most destructive symbol I could find, the swastika, and even sold T shirts bearing it. West was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, said his illness prompted to have poor judgment and reckless behavior that oftentimes feel like an out of body experience and says it has Something to do with a car crash that exasperate, exacerbated his bipolar stuff. I just say, I think it's interesting from a mental illness standpoint. Here's a guy who's got access to the best care that exists on planet earth and as much of it as he would need, and he still ends up in this situation. 25 years ago, I was in a car accident that broke my jaw and caused injury to the right frontal lobe of my brain. At that time, the focus blah, blah, blah blah, comprehensive scans were not done. And at that time they didn't know this and that. And then he goes through how the bipolar disorder was either caused by that or exacerbated by that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And yeah. Huh.

[Katie]

How often when people are acting pretty nutty is, you know, the brain ain't working right for any variety of reasons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, I think to a large extent the difficulty is where you as a society say, yeah, I sympathize it all. We got to have certain lines of behavior we can't cross. Right?

[Katie]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah, mental illness is so hard, we're at the very dawn of understanding it. I think as humans.

[Katie]

We have a new album coming out and he doesn't want it to be banned on every radio station. It's hard to know.

[Jack Armstrong]

The new album, entitled Love Them Jews will be available next Wednesday.

[Katie]

Awfulness in Minnesota.

[Jack Armstrong]

Coming up next, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota. And there's one person who can end this now. General Eisenhower.

[Katie]

That's Tim Walls comparing what's going on in Minneapolis to the Gestapo looking for Jews to send them to concentration camps and Anne Frank having to hide, et cetera, et cetera. That's a good job by the governor of trying to calm things down after another awful killing and and ignore his.

[Jack Armstrong]

Own party's incredible anti Semite problem.

[Katie]

Anyway, nobody wants to calm things down, apparently. Seems like Trump might have realized just the polling is not good on ice. I mean, it's really gone the wrong direction. He's probably not happy with the way Kristi Noema's handling things, which is why he's sending Tom Holman now. I just read the New York Post that Holman and and the DHS secretary Kristi Noem aren't speaking and haven't been for weeks. So obviously that's an untenable situation, uh, given where things are. And then you got the whole problem of I, I'm, I'm the only one that seems to bring this up, at least on anywhere but fox. We have 15 million illegals here that by, according to federal law, need to go. So what do you want to do with that situation?

[Jack Armstrong]

Ignorantly. Yeah.

[Katie]

Looking like you don't get to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Respond with something like, well, a lot of them are nice people. No, that didn't answer the question. What policies for what sorts of people? How about the dangerous criminals? Do you think that your mayor and governor ought to, you know, forbid any cooperation getting them off the streets? Is that a policy here? No. Okay, let's talk about it.

[Katie]

Well, I read the quote earlier from Barack Obama back in 2013 about how I'm not an emperor, I have to follow the laws and that's my job. Here's Hillary Clinton in 2014. We have to send a clear message that just because your child gets across the border, that doesn't mean the child gets to stay. Yeah, we have laws and if you don't like them, you know, cry and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Write your congressperson and try to get them changed.

[Katie]

But are we, what other laws should we not enforce at the same time? Obviously you don't want. I saw one post by a friend of ours on Twitter that something like 1200 people have been detained unlawfully by ICE who turned out to be American citizens. That shouldn't be happening. That absolutely should not be happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's do better than that.

[Katie]

It doesn't change the fact that we.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have all these illegal people here, though.

[Katie]

And we got to deal with it. So then you've got.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you see the way the hotel was attacked last night?

[Katie]

The rumor was that the agents involved in shooting that dude on Saturday were staying in a specific hotel. So overnight protesters, they're anarchists, were trying to get into the hotel and they had to have a whole bunch of police presence there. They broke windows, throwing rocks. They were trying to get into the hotel. And I mean, we're gonna. I still think we're close to a really history making moment. I hope not.

[Jack Armstrong]

But like, because the radicals, the hardcore radicals want violence, they're desperate for it.

[Katie]

Like, they do get into the hotel and drag four guys into the street and execute them or something. This is not good. But like you keep saying we need some grown ups on both sides that are trying to tamp it down rather than whip it up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And just in case you're just tuning in and haven't listened to every word we've uttered, number one, where were you? We missed you. But more importantly, not only is this a question of like, Morals and right and wrong and good leadership. But it's just, strategically speaking, we've lost the momentum on enforcing immigration law and booting out the people who really needed to be booted. Take a look at the polling. The polling is now staunchly anti immigration enforcement. Too much, too far, too fast, too crude, too sloppy. You lose the game that way. I'm not in favor of illegals staying in the United States in general. Of course not. I'm in favor of being effective. And if you screw up, if you don't color inside the lines, you lose the moral high ground, you lose the elections, you lose the chance to do the good stuff. I think that's what's happened here to a large extent. And I'm not talking about the specifics of that shooting of the young man. That's got to be investigated carefully, slowly, deliberately.

[Katie]

Is there any reason to when you're talking about the shooting? So I was watching, I guess it was ABC this week. John Carl was filling in and he opened with, he was 37, he was a blah, blah, blah. He was a boy scout when he was younger. You know, went through this laundry list of nice human being and now he's dead. Does it make any difference whether that stuff is true or, you know, if you say he didn't have a friend in the world, he was an a hole, he was dead. Two maxed out credit cards and defaulted on his right serial shoplifter. None of that makes any difference. I mean, he was either legit, he was either shot within the law or not shot within the law. And we got to figure that out and then, you know, follow the laws that relate to the facts.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a very grown up thing to say. But we have a serious lack of grownups owning the libs and, or, you know, owning the fascists. Animates. I mean, if that animates Twitter, okay, great, fine, whatever. But when it's the mayor and the governor and the secretary of dhs, that's their orientation as opposed to effectiveness. That's. That's bad. That's really bad.

[Katie]

Quick survey of Joe Getty. Do you think things this was like the peak of this being awful and things are going to calm down. You know, he's sending Holman. Maybe Trump has decided Kristi Noemi's no good for this, etc. Or is there more to come? More awful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Declined to state. Wow, no opinion. Let's see. Oh my gosh.

[Katie]

I want to. I wanted to play this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you really want my answer or. Oh, yeah. I thought you were Just being silly.

[Katie]

Oh, okay. No, thought you were punting like the, the many teams had to often yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, too many. So many puns. I suspect that there is further ugliness to come because and the incredibly small number of people who recognize this is a little frustrating to me. It's not just nice Americans who believe this versus nice Americans who believe this. You got those two groups and then you've got heart core radicals, Marxists who are intentionally provoking violence because with if the violence gets out of hand then they can bring down the system. They continue to operate well funded by the way, in Minneapolis and in the streets of a bunch of different countries or of cities rather. And so they're trying desperately to push it farther. And I suspect that they feel they're on the front foot and they will.

[Katie]

Well to that point. So I saw this this morning on News Nation and I wanted to play it for you. This guy named Aman Blair, he's a former BOR patrol guy who now works at one of your pointy head think tanks and seems like a super smart guy. These are clips 70 and 71. Michael. First one he's talking about what's going on here.

[Joe Getty]

What we're seeing in the streets is far more than just an insurgency. We're seeing a whole of government approach to completely eradicate the immigration enforcement together. And so when you have that type.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of environment and you place border patrol.

[Joe Getty]

Agents and ICE officers in an environment with which they are not trained to operate in, they're looking at trying to figure out exactly what to do just to conduct immigration enforcement together.

[Katie]

So there you got the, you know, you got a bunch of people, you got the mayor and the governor and lots of other people trying to work together. They don't want the enforcement of federal law. They're trying to get around that. So that's interesting. And then Marky Martin, the host on the show asks him this question, Ammon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think that point needs to be now? Even if you just, you know, go home for a second, regroup and then decide to approach this fraud and worst of the worst immigration differently, is that point to pack up for a moment. Now to be honest, really what needs.

[Joe Getty]

To happen is we need to go after the groups that are organizing this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look, there was a signal chat that.

[Joe Getty]

Was just completely infiltrated just a couple days ago. They have a manual. This is a completely organized movement, as I said, using seditious activities to completely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Subvert and overthrow the federal government through immigration.

[Joe Getty]

And so they're going to continue to receive this. No matter what city they go to. Unless the Trump administration focuses their efforts on red states, red counties, to conduct.

[Katie]

Immigration enforcement and go after the worst.

[Jack Armstrong]

For the worst as well.

[Katie]

I just want to get on that point there that they got into the communications of these organized groups who are Marxists, who.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whose goal is to overthrow the federal government.

[Katie]

And they're gonna get. They're gonna say, hey, we gotta win. Federal government tried to go in and enforce federal law, and we were able to create so much chaos and dangerous situations, and then they screwed up and shot people and everything like that. We drove them out of the city. And we can do this in other cities.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. It reminds me of what they said about Hamas. The only thing they love better than a dead Israeli child is a dead Palestinian child. The. The hardcore activists are over the moon with joy that two people have died. That's precisely what they were hoping.

[Katie]

So how do you deal with this, then, when there are plenty of people in the streets that are just like regular citizens? They don't want to overthrow the government. They might even believe in federal immigration law, but they just think ICE is going too far, it's overreach or whatever. How do you.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do you square all this? Well, it would certainly help if more people were made aware of the actual dynamics here, but the media never talks about that because they think, number one, they're ignorant and they think that everybody in the streets is just a decent American who doesn't want these nice families to be hurt and shipped to El Salvador or whatever. And they think, well, I sympathize with the demonstrators, so I don't want to call them organized Marxists because then I'd be on the side of the fascists. So I'm just going to be quiet about it. So a lot of people have no idea the actual dynamics of what's going on. And as I often say about the critical theory, folks who have so perverted education, including university education, because a lot of people think, either they think I'm nuts or they're not sure what to think when I go off on these streets. These people wrote books. Their names are on the spines. They said exactly what they want to do. In this case, these people have an email trail. There are texts, there are tweets, there are Instagram posts, posts. They've said precisely where they're going to meet, what they're going to do to provoke the feds and what they hope will happen. And then when it happens, the media says, oh, my God, what happened? As if it's unknowable or if it's just an innocent clash of well meaning Americans. God, it makes me insane, right? Oh, these people's playbooks have been published, man.

[Katie]

If they get a win and drive federal agents out of Minneapolis, wait till the next city tries to enforce anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, I think it's time for a strategic retreat though, because as Mr. Blair, the former border patrol guy we just heard from, kind of hinted at, you have CBP guys who are now doing riot control as they're trying to do apprehensions. And that's just. That's not good. No, it's not gonna end well.

[Katie]

No, no, no. I think a treat of some sort is mandatory at this point. I don't see how you get around that. Boy. It's gonna be interesting to watch this week. And at least it looks like Trump may have decided that his secretary of the Department of Homeland Security is not the person to handle this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Barbie's gotta go. Yeah, all she's good at is showing up looking sexy and saying really strong Twitter style crap. We need an adult in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.

[Katie]

Can it be sexy too? Or is that just off limits automatically?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, no, sexy's fine. Bring sexy back, I say. But we don't need dog shooting. Milf, sex, pot. I'm charged with dhs. Wow, this Trump, come on phrase milf sex pot. Pick some sort of mediocre looking fat guy who's really super good at Homeland Security, please.

[Katie]

Moving along.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Katie]

Wolf so is the long and short. In the few seconds we got here, they see a gun, he's got a gun. They pull the gun out of his pants and then it went off somehow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some people think the first shot heard is the gun going off accidentally. It's not been proved as far as.

[Katie]

I know and there's some stories that came out over the weekend that that particular model of gun it pretty easy to get it to go off when you don't want it to go off more.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I've been told.

[Katie]

Yeah. Anyway, if you know anything about that you can text us 415295 kftc armstrong.

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[Katie]

A video has gone viral of a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mysterious Dorito shaped aircraft flying over Area 51.

[Katie]

It's called a triangle, fat ass. We kind of made that comment last week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. You know, shapes are shapes. They got names. They don't need to be compared to a snack food.

[Katie]

Speaking of being a fat ass or trying to be less of a fat ass, I bought one of the great cheap pieces of exercise equipment over the weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

More people should get this.

[Katie]

I bought the humble jump rope.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Which.

[Katie]

Which, like, the best jump rope you can buy is like 15. I mean, it's cheap and all you need is the ground and what an exercise that is. I was doing it over the weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good God.

[Katie]

You jump rope for five minutes. Yours. You're blowing hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Start at one minute. Jump rope for 60 seconds, chum.

[Katie]

God, that's quite the exercise.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. God, I did that for a while. Katie, you're. You're making a face.

[Katie]

No, it just won't catch me dead doing it because. Well, you're pregnant right now. I don't know if you're supposed to.

[Joe Getty]

Duh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Women have a disadvantage when jump roping.

[Katie]

Oh, gotcha. The boobs. Yeah, the boobs.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's painful. Thank you for that, children. All right, then.

[Katie]

Can you jump rope, though?

[Jack Armstrong]

Can everybody ho ho shaped boobs?

[Katie]

Because at least one of my kids was Acting like it's a really difficult thing to do. And how does anybody do this? And I'd say I can.

[Joe Getty]

I choose not to.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man, I've got to. It's such a good. That's exactly what I lack. Explosiveness. I mean, you may have noticed it when I was running routes during the playoffs.

[Katie]

How about your twitchiness that Tom Brady keeps mentioning? How's your twitchiness?

[Jack Armstrong]

I got none. No twitch. Hey, so we've been ranting and raving about the problems on the Trump administration's handling of the immigration thing. Not because we're against enforcing immigration law, but because we're in favor of it. And you've got to stay between the lines or you'll alienate people, you'll lose elections, and you won't be able to do the good stuff. For instance, this is not immigration, but there's a historical site in Philadelphia, the President's house, because that was the original capital of the country. George Washington lived there as president. It's an important historical place. Over the last quite a few years, the house where Washington Adams lived, all of the display signs, the entire experience of being there, became about slavery and dei. It became a giant white people are bad museum. Who is this writing for the Journal? Well, anyway, the author. They visited in August last year. There were 30 signs that you read. You can picture that at any historical place, right? Of the 30 signs, 25 of them concerned slavery or race relations. 25 out of 30. In the home where the first two presidents lived, one sign declared that the site had been transformed into a space that honors the lives of those enslaved.

[Katie]

Well, I've been complaining about this for a long time. And then Trump got beaten up when he tried to change this. You go to a dinosaur museum, show me a plaque that doesn't talk about global warming or colonization or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. At a freaking dinosaur museum. Writer writes. When I recently interviewed Ken Burns and asked who was the greatest hero in his documentary the American Revolution, he said, oh, without a question, it's George Washington. We don't have a country without him. And yet, until the Trump administration took action, Washington was more heavily criticized at Independence park than George iii. And that's the stuff that we can keep undoing if we don't screw up and lose elections.

[Katie]

You're right. You're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, the Democrats, the Biden types get in charge again, they're going to double down on that ass. And I'd like to drop the S bomb.

[Katie]

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