I Like The Nuts

Summary

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Episode Title: I Like The Nuts
Date: December 18, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Length: ~50 minutes (content-rich portion summarized; ads omitted)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty dive into two major topics: the growing presence and controversy around dynamic pricing (AI-driven, real-time price adjustments) in everyday commerce, and a local controversy involving a conservative high school club, free speech, and left-right campus tensions. The hosts also touch on NFL playoff races, fundraising for Scouts, and end with a roundtable on grading their 2025.

The tone is conversational, irreverent, and occasionally self-deprecating, with both hosts freely editorializing and using real-world anecdotes to ground their discussion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Dynamic Pricing and AI in Retail

[02:47–15:33]

Main Discussion:

• Armstrong & Getty discuss dynamic pricing—where companies use AI and algorithms to change prices based on demand, personal data, location, even the time of day.
• Instacart is called out for charging different customers different prices at the same store, same time, unbeknownst to the consumer. (04:08–04:50)
  • Example: One customer pays $2.99, another $3.59 for Skippy Peanut Butter at the same Target.
• Conversation extends to Whole Foods, Amazon Fresh, Kroger, and Walmart adopting electronic shelf tags for minute-by-minute price changes (05:09–05:46).

Commentary & Debate:

• Armstrong and Getty debate the ethics and transparency of such pricing, whether this is a natural evolution of the free market, or a potentially unfair and creepy use of data.
• Getty compares it to car salesmen sizing up buyers; Armstrong agrees, referencing Milton Friedman on markets as information exchanges (08:02).

Notable Quotes:

• "I eat organic peanut butter because I'm better than you, but eat your Skippy if you must."
  — Jack Armstrong (04:43)
• "And I don't like creamy. I like the nuts. I like lots of peanuts in my peanut butter."
  — Joe Getty (04:46)
• "Now artificial intelligence, advanced algorithms, [and] massive troves of user data are allowing companies to be more exacting than ever."
  — Jack Armstrong (06:07)

Concerns Raised:

• Lack of transparency and the growing information imbalance between consumer and corporation.
• Dynamic pricing not just in ride-shares but also grocery stores, zoos, museums, and amusement attractions.
• The potential for companies to "profile" consumers for maximal profits in ways that were previously impossible.

Memorable Anecdote:

• Getty’s story of being charged $33 for three bottles of water at Caesar’s Palace at night, suspecting dynamic pricing (11:45).

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2. NFL Playoff Race Intrigue

[02:50–03:27; 20:19–22:51]

• The NFL regular season is especially dramatic, with no division yet locked up this late—the first time since the Obama administration.
• Tonight's Rams vs. Seahawks game is described as “one of the most consequential regular season NFL games in a decade.”
• The ever-popular dynamics of dynasties, heroes, and villains in sports; discussion on how Chiefs’ dynasty may be closing and the importance for fan engagement.

Quote:

• "Star Wars didn’t have Darth Vader on screen for 10 minutes then he was gone. You need a villain. You need a hero."
  — Jack Armstrong (20:54)

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3. Local Controversy: Conservative Club and Free Speech at Lincoln High

[25:54–34:20]

Background:

• Twelve Bridges High School (Lincoln, CA) hosts a conservative club tied to Turning Point USA, drawing protest from other students.
• A petition circulates, with 300+ signatures calling for the club’s removal over alleged “hate speech.”

Key Issues Explored:

• Armstrong: The “heckler’s veto” and the labeling of anything disagreeable as “hate speech.”
• The mayor of Lincoln, who spoke at the club, was publicly targeted after a heavily edited, out-of-context video of her remarks was circulated.

Quotes & Rhetorical Highlights:

• “The problem is on the left, you label everything you don’t like as hate speech.”
  — Jack Armstrong (28:35)
• “You beat their idea with your ideas. The heckler's veto is the worst thing.”
  — Joe Getty (31:42)

Analogies & Context:

• Comparison of demonization tactics to historical examples of group targeting and scapegoating.
• Hosts denounce doxing and online harassment of the conservative club members as antithetical to education and free discourse.
• Strong challenge to the local school district to enforce anti-bullying rules equally.

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4. Tech/Media Manipulation and Misrepresentation

[36:31–37:02]

• Armstrong describes how the Sacramento Bee omitted context to present the Lincoln mayor’s words as more inflammatory than they were.
• Expands critique to other media outlets (e.g., the BBC with Trump), cautioning that overreach and misrepresentation backfire.

Quote:

• "If your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should be able to do them in with their actual words. You don't need to...make stuff up."
  — Joe Getty (36:31)

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5. Fundraising for Scouts

[22:22–22:51; scattered through episode]

• Ongoing fundraiser aiming to enable more kids to join Scouts; donations and wittily-named donors are highlighted throughout.
• Final total at end of episode segment: $120,222, with push to reach $150k.

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6. Grade Your Year – A Roundtable

[43:29–46:18]

• Hosts and team members share "grades" for their year (business and personal).
  • Michael: A-/B+
  • Katie: A-
  • Hanson: Old-school C (just average)
  • Armstrong and Getty: B+ to A-
• Armstrong reflects on his tendency toward positivity in self-assessment.
• Discussion turns on what would trigger a “D” or “F”—Getty recalls the year his wife dumped him.

Light, reflective, humorous banter closes the segment.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “I like the nuts. I like lots of peanuts in my peanut butter.” – Joe Getty (04:46)
• “If they're charging the guy next to me, literally the guy next to me, $5 less for a steak than they are me, that pisses people off. I don't know if it should, but it does.” – Jack Armstrong (11:00)
• “You label everything you don’t like as hate speech.” – Jack Armstrong (28:35)
• “You beat their idea with your ideas. The heckler's veto is the worst thing…” – Joe Getty (31:42)
• “If your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should be able to do them in with their actual words. You don't need to...make stuff up.” – Joe Getty (36:31)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [02:47] — Start of dynamic pricing/AI discussion
• [04:46] — “I like the nuts” peanut butter exchange
• [11:45] — Bottled water price/gouging anecdote
• [20:19] — NFL playoff implications
• [25:54] — Turning Point USA high school club controversy
• [28:35] — Hate speech/gender of dialogue debate
• [36:31] — Media misrepresentation and context
• [43:29] — “Grade your year” roundtable

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Episode Summary & Takeaways

Armstrong & Getty deliver a sharp, accessible critique of current issues—using real-life anecdotes and cultural commentary to explore the implications of dynamic AI-driven pricing on consumers and the evolving debate over free speech, “hate speech,” and campus activism.
They tie local events to broader national trends, especially around transparency, censorship, and media misrepresentation, offering both rhetorical bite and humor. The show closes on a lighter note, with reflections on personal and professional well-being.

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For listeners wanting humor, substance, and a skeptical but upbeat take on culture and current events, this episode showcases Armstrong & Getty’s signature style.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

A man who crazed Craves Leisure donated $50. That's Joe's line that's pretty funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I am that.

[Joe Getty]

More on the fundraiser for scouts a little bit later. Go To Armstrong and getty.com did you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know.

[Joe Getty]

That Barack Obama was in office the last time we've been this late in the NFL season without a single division locked up? It's been over. It's been a decade since we've been this late in the NFL season. Three weeks to go without a single division locked up and some of the most consequential games in 10 years coming up this weekend in terms of regular season football. And I'll tell you a little bit about that. If you're at all a fan or you, if you're like me and you kind of join late in the season and figure out what, you know, what's exciting. Tonight's game is huge. Like, really huge. But more on that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, great. Exciting. So I think we're all aware of dynamic pricing, particularly if we use, like, Uber Lyft or one of those ride shares. We understand that, you know, when the football game's getting out, it's going to be more expensive to get yourself a ride than, you know, two o' clock on your average Tuesday afternoon. But it's much more widespread, much more sophisticated than I think a lot of us thought.

[Joe Getty]

We were all shocked when Wendy started doing this and I got out like.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they talked about it.

[Joe Getty]

I got a $12 hamburger at 6 o' clock one time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really? They denied that they ever implemented it.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think that's always $12.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's a little editorializing in this article. But for instance, the word shady here. Instagram has been using a shady AI algorithm that charges different prices to diff. I'm sorry, Instacart. Different prices to different customers on the same grocery item in the same stores without telling them, according to a new study released by Consumer Reports and another organization earlier this week at a Target store in North Canton, Ohio, for example, the popular grocery app charged one customer $2.99 for Skippy Creamy Peanut Butter. I eat organic peanut butter because I'm better than you, but eat your Skippy if you must.

[Joe Getty]

And I don't like creamy. I like the nuts. I like lots of peanuts in my peanut butter.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do enjoy the crunchy myself. Yeah. So one Customer got charged $2.99 while other Instacart users paid as much as $3.59 for the same jar picked up from the same location the same day, the study found.

[Joe Getty]

And my question, of course, is how did the algorithm decide what did it use to decide to charge more to some people?

[Jack Armstrong]

We will get to that in a minute. Let me hit you with a couple more examples. It's not just Instacart. So called dynamic pricing practices have been used by the rideshares, Las Vegas convenience stores, children's museums and zoos and even your local grocery stores. Whole Foods, Amazon Fresh and Kroger have already rolled out electronic price tags that allow workers to raise shelf prices in a matter of minutes. And Walmart said it's planning to add the tags to thousands of stores by 2026. So you can change prices on a, you know, a pound of flour or whatever, minute to minute if you want.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. And you could factor in so many different things including price elasticity that you know, Thanksgiving morning somebody getting some flour off the shelf means they really made a mistake and need flour bad and you can charge more for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a great example. Well, businesses have always adjusted prices to find the highest amounts a customer will fork over like in a broad way. Now artificial intelligence, advanced algorithms, massive troves of user data are allowing companies to be more exacting than ever. Quote, the problem isn't that companies across multiple industries are using AI for dynamic pricing or even surging, surging pricing. The problem is more around transparency and trust, according this consumer advocate. Now we all have benefited from some variable pricing like discounts when you buy in bulk at Costco. Costco allows you to compare Amazon prices to other retailers online, save money on plane tickets and vacations if you book off season, that sort of thing. But they say the problem arises when data collection and algorithms are used without customers knowledge.

[Joe Getty]

I, I feel like there needs to be a different category for some of these things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Different levels of objectionable.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Saying or. Yeah, here's, here's a. For example, the Justice Department just settled the case against real estate tech firm Real Page, which I'd never heard of, but which allegedly used completely sensitive information. That's a quote. To jack up rents for tenants. So they would, they would dive into all the data they could get and figure out how much money you got. But why are. And whether they can jack up your rent. $300 instead of 200 for the guy next door.

[Joe Getty]

But how is this much unless they obtained the information illegally? How is this much different than you buy a car and the guy sizes you up when you walk on the lot, he looks at what you drove, he looks at the way you're dressed, maybe he makes some small talk and figures out what you do for a living. And you know, strikes a bargain based on that, what's the difference? And that's what car dealers always do, by the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the most brilliant descriptions of Friedman was terrific at this. Milton Friedman. The most brilliant descriptions about the free market emphasize the fact that it's an exchange of information. You can instantaneously know how much people are willing to pay for something, how much they're willing to sell something for. And that information moves at lightning speed through the market. It's all about information. It's tough to fault somebody for. And again, the like surveillance state pervasiveness of this is a little creepy and the secrecy is creepy. But if I walk into a store and my neighbor, poor Jim, who we were joking about earlier, walk into a store and they scan me and say this dude's here for steaks, he's going to pay whatever the steaks cost. Poor Jim over there may not buy a stake at all if it's due too high. So we're going to stick Joe and let Jim skate a little easier.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know how you could complain about that, really.

[Jack Armstrong]

People do. Jack Furious. New Yorkers, for instance, have blasted the slime balls. That's a quote of Uber and Lyft for hiking prices when subway lines are shut down during rainstorms. Reportedly charging $80 for a 10 minute ride to work.

[Joe Getty]

That's a little different.

[Jack Armstrong]

How so?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I guess it's not. I guess it's not. I guess. Really, you know, the more I think about it. No, it's not. It's no different than the charging more because the football game just got out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's, well, right. Yeah. Here's a head scratcher then a wt. People have been reporting being charged higher Uber fares when using a personal credit card instead of a corporate one. I don't know why that would be. I would think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would expect.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's the WTFER advocacy group Consumer Watchdog suggested and report in a report that Uber might charge users more if they have low phone batteries. The idea seeming to be the customers are more likely to pay higher prices when they're desperate. Though the company denies this, I feel.

[Joe Getty]

Like this is being pitched to dumb people that don't understand the free market in terms of being, you know, this is something you should be angry about. Why? This is pretty much every interaction I've ever had when you're trying to buy stuff. Now, you know, it'd be new that prices change on the store shelves on a minute by minute basis, but for bigger items, the items that cost more, that put more of a dent in your, you know, your net worth. It's always been that way. I mean, that's the whole. Selling a car, you, they, they size you up or you. If I'm selling a car, I get a sense the guy, you know, what he can afford, how desperate he is, and, you know, how desperate am I to make the sale or am I willing to wait and see who else I can get? I mean, all those interactions are going on all the time, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think people are a little offended by the information imbalance because, you know, you work that out through negotiation. I'm not going to haggle with the cashier over the price of my grapes and my, you know, whatever paper towel. They have much more information than I do. And if they're charging the guy next to me, literally the guy next to me, $5 less for a steak than they are me, that pisses people off. I don't know if it should, but it does. Cash registers at convenience stores in Las Vegas casinos have been raising the price of bottled waters, flavored drinks, sunscreen and candy, et cetera, on a daily and even hourly basis, sometimes leaving the cashiers just as surprised as the customers at the price.

[Joe Getty]

So we were at Caesar's PA Atlas and we got there kind of late and we were eating and this is like 10 o' clock at night. And we were all just so thirsty for some reason. I said, I'll get three bottled waters. She said, that's $33. I said, $33 for three bottled waters? She said, yeah, they're, they're 950 piece. I said, we'll, we'll drink, we'll find a fountain somewhere. We pass and I wonder if that was some sort of dynamic pricing. People are drinking and been smoking cigarettes all day long. It's late at night, they're thirsty, they'll pay anything. Had to be dynamic pricing. There's no way at 10 o' clock in the morning they're charging 10 bucks.

[Jack Armstrong]

For a bottled water.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you wouldn't think. I've got some more examples that are really interesting afterward from our friends at Omaha Steaks. Right, Michael? Oh, what a pleasure it is to let you folks in on my gift giving secret for years and years and years. Not really secret, but I have people I care about, I love that don't need stuff. And so I give them deliciousness. Omaha Steaks. The incredible quality, the variety, and you know, they throw it on the grill. They Sizzle it up. It's yummy. And they think of Judy and me. It's this nice.

[Joe Getty]

And they charge everybody the same at Omaha Steaks so you don't have to show up with your pockets turned out and like barefoot to try to get a better deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? None of that crap from our good Mr. Midwestern friends.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Like I've done this before and it's probably, I don't know what I think of this, but I've done it before. Like dealing with a car individual or to car lot. Hey, how you doing? You know, okay. It's been a rough year, but I need a car. You know, I'm not going to come up as happy and doing well. You know, my kid needs a liver and all these different things.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got a limp. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So more than they've got dozens of attractions, children's museums, zoos, aquariums. They use the software provider Diginex to power dynamic pricing based on everything from weather to capacity constraints and even even Google Analytics search search patterns during the week of June 8, for instance, for instance, the Seattle Aquarium offered out of state adult admission prices as low as 3,795 for dates later in the month and as much as 46.95 for walk in tickets. That.

[Joe Getty]

See, that just sounds like flat out free market capitalism. I got no problem with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

As opposed to if the airlines somehow are getting my information because I don't want any of my information out there. But you know, like the agreements kid Katie was reading last hour, sometimes you sign up for Netflix or whatever you signed up for and they get to snatch all your information. You got no choice. But if the airlines, you know, are getting information I don't want them to have and charging me based on they know how much money I make, how much I spend, I pay off my credit card every month, blah, blah, blah, whatever they use, I don't like that. I don't want them to have that information to start with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, but you see, you clicked on.

[Joe Getty]

I agree. Yeah, I don't know. We got to work that out somehow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I know the airlines for their app users say, for instance, hey, Joe's not real price sensitive. So let's show him a. Let's go ahead and show him that higher price, see if he clicks. If not, maybe, maybe we loaded a little bit when he comes back. And so I've heard you should not sign in. You should clear your cookies. But I have so many subscriptions, so many things. Yeah, I don't want to clear my cookies. Too much of a pain in the butt.

[Joe Getty]

Definitely. Any thoughts on this text line 415295 KFTC and one of the most consequential regular season NFL games in a decade. Tonight. Can tell you about that and other things on the way.

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Customer who was bit by a raccoon. We don't know how this raccoon got there. It was quite a large raccoon driving there as this thing was growling, hissing, scratching when it gets really cold. It's not uncommon to get these calls for raccoons. They did all the right things. They got medical care for the person that got bit. He was taken to the hospital and I felt like I owed that to the person that got bit because his entire process for his treatment relies basically solely on do we get this animal or not? That was a nice restaurant where a raccoon fell through the ceiling and then bit of guest.

[Jack Armstrong]

So beautiful. Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Yeah, really nice looking restaurant too. You don't expect to be attacked by wild beasts at that sort of establishment.

[Joe Getty]

How was dinner?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're not dressed for it for one thing.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the noki was a little soft. A raccoon fell out the ceiling and bit me in the neck. Good wine list, though.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although somebody tried to grab the raccoon, I guess, and that's when they got bit. Don't try to grab a raccoon.

[Joe Getty]

So raising money for Scouts this week so more kids can join up. The Scouts of the family doesn't have the money to do it and love doing that. And we'll get to a total a little bit later in the hour, hoping to hit $150,000 by the time we get off the air today. Can we do it? It's not going to be easy. It's a tough one. May have. May have my eyes might be bigger than my stomach or whatever the right saying would be. Had some good donations. Give the beavers a chance in for $50.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Planet of the Beavers. We've had our chance. We blew it.

[Joe Getty]

$50 from the ghost of Jack's rooster. That's right. I shot a rooster because it bit my son. Oh. Oh, boy. Blasted that things to smithereens because it jumped on my son's back. And this is my favorite. 150 bucks from it insists upon itself. This is one of my favorite land lines from Family Guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the huge in imitation of a pretentious reviewer.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

This week's NFL slate is unlike any other in almost a decade. For the first time since Barack Obama was president, we ain't got nobody who's locked up the division yet, which is kind of interesting. Part of it is because last the participants in last year's super bowl, one of them's out and the other one could be. Which is. I don't remember the last time that happened. Dynasties are good for sports. They just are. It brings in a lot more people and then it brings in people to hate on the dynasty or whatever. But it looks like the chief's dynasty might be over. And so they got a bunch of new teams.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huge game. You notice Star wars didn't have Darth Vader on screen for 10 minutes. Then he was gone. You need a villain. You need a hero. You need a villain.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Rams Seahawks tonight. Listen to what is at stake with this game. Oh, you wouldn't even think that this could possibly happen. There's only three weeks left in the season. It's not your older siblings. Thursday night game, says NBC News. What used to be a dumping ground for the league's less than elite matchups is now one of the most important games in several years. Rams, Seahawks. Playing for the second time. The winner will not only be first place in the division, but first place in the nfc. Full stop. So you could have home field advantage all the way through to go into the Super Bowl. The loser will be in fifth place at best and enter a jumbled mess of whether or not they make the playoffs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

So that's tonight's game. Ram Seahawks. So that's kind of fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. It's good to have me in. My beloved 49ers are watching all of this with great interest as they are already in that jumble but could win their way into the top and get that buy all the way through the playoffs. It's that close. All across the NFL. It's fun.

[Joe Getty]

Do they have Saturday games this? Are we to the point where you start having Saturday and Sunday games?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think this Saturday.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I love that. That's the best time of the NFL.

[Jack Armstrong]

Play to games too, I think. Bears, Packers. Is that right? Yep, that's what your local listings.

[Joe Getty]

Bears packers is one of the other super big ones and Buccaneers Panthers. So those are your three super important games for the whole playoff picture. So let's get a total on scouting. Gladys, can you roll the drums? $116,134. So there you go. We started with an original goal of 50 early in the week, moved it to 100, blew past that. We're at 116. Would love to get to 150 a little later in the show. Joe's gonna get us trombone. I will get out the fiddle and we'll try to raise some money with our fiddle trombone duet that people love so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

What does a high school club in Northern California have to do with the murder of Jews? We'll explain.

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[Joe Getty]

How y' all doing? Ever since we had the conversation about cash for presents, all the pressure's off for me. I'm going cash for presents this year. I can't wait to tell my kids. I think they're going to be thrilled at their current age.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Okay. Glad to be of help.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I think they're going to love it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I suggested a stack of twenties in a band like it's a bank robbery movie or, you know, you're a drug dealer but you know, however you choose to present it is up to you. Certainly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Katie brought to us a brief version of a story from a high school not far from the Radio Ranch, in fact, one I used to drive past over and over and over again. Why don't you go ahead and hit us with the basics, Katie, and then I'll fill you in on what's happening now.

[Katie]

Well, a student led conservative club at twelve Bridges High School in Lincoln, California, is facing some controversy, with some students accusing it of spreading hate and others defending it as a platform for civil dialogue. They had, they just had a meeting this week where there were 60 speakers addressing the issue. Some associated that the club, which is associated with Turning Point usa, fosters division and hate among students, while others emphasized the importance of civil dialogue and healthy disagreement. One member of the club said, since our first meeting, my friends and I have been verbally harassed both in person and online. And it's extremely discouraging, especially since we have felt unsafe with all with the threats that have also been made towards us.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you've got a student who created a petition that the club should be removed from campus said it has over 300 signatures. Free speech is allowed to everybody, says the student. But that does not cover hate speech. We respect everybody. We respect the officers, but we wish that we had respect for our families and for our identities. Okay, this is a beautiful example of a couple of things. Number one, the heckler's veto. In effect, that group fosters division in the school. Okay? So the division is they have a right to be there. But you don't like it. That's a you problem. That's not a them problem. Little snowflakes. And I'm not gonna use anybody's names in this. Cause at the old, probably 18, and certainly I'd much, much rather discuss principles with people. I don't need to bring any inconvenience or harassment down on any actual young human beings. This is an example of people on the left accepting the worst narratives they've heard about a perfectly legitimate group, then claiming without evidence that they are horrible people, that they are engaged in, for instance, hate speech. I do not see the evidence that any of these kids on campus engaged in any hate speech or indeed that any reasonable person would think Turning Point USA does. The problem is on the left, you. You label everything you don't like as hate speech. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Their metric for what's hate speech is different for stuff on the right than it is for on the left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Obs. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. It's like if you want to take something over, you call it racist until you are in charge of it because everybody backs down.

[Joe Getty]

But we've seen all the examples over the last couple of years. You can say from the river to the sea all day long. And nobody calls that hate speech.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. Which it clearly is. And by the way, I'm going to tie this to the murder of Jews in just a minute. But the mayor of beautiful Lincoln, California was the inaugural speaker at the club's first meeting. She became a focal point of the discussion after an edited video of hers speaking to the students circulated online. Carefully, carefully edited, and I have her. She wrote a piece for the local newspaper explaining herself and how it was. I've heard criticism suggesting that public schools are not appropriate places to discuss certain topics, which is hilarious in California where they're required to incorporate radical gender theory into like every class and critical race theory and the rest of it. But she points out, this was a voluntary student led club that had followed absolutely every single rule of the school district and California's equal access laws and the rest of it. The school allows non academic clubs, LGBTQ clubs, For black, black students, Hispanic students, whatever, but conservative students is absolutely not acceptable according to the loud little self righteous snowflakes. And she talks about her presentation. These students were largely respectful. My message focused on faith, understanding what you believe and why you believe it, having the courage to stand by your convictions and recognizing the differences in belief or opinion do not equate to hatred. Well, you gotta shut that down. Surely. During the Q and A portion, protesting students were given the first opportunity to ask questions and in fact dominated the discussion. Ugh, that is so typical. They went there to dominate the meeting and try to shut it down. Many questions centered on statements attributed Charlie Kirk or Turning Point usa. I repeatedly clarified that I was not giving my own personal views to those questions, but rather responding to questions about what Mr. Kirk had publicly stated, while encouraging students to seek full context and make up their minds. After the meeting, I learned that a student had recorded me without authorization and later told classmates he intended to use the video quote to take me down. The video was quickly distributed to media outlets including the Sacramento Bee, which is a shameless former newspaper. It was heavily edited and stripped of context, creating the false impressions that I said, things I did not say and grossly misrepresenting both my intent and character. You know, I gotta pay, I gotta tip my cap to California schools. You are teaching the kids well. They have really learned the art of crushing free speech, of demonizing anybody who disagrees with them and trying to humiliate them publicly. They learned.

[Joe Getty]

I understand how young people come to this idea that this might be a good thing. One of my intellectual heroes, Christopher Hitchens, used to tell the story about how when he was at Oxford and he was a student, he and some other like minded students shut down a conservative speaker they didn't like. They somehow got into the electronics and turned off the microphone or something like that and they just thought that was fantastic. But when he got older, he realized that's the exact opposite of what we should do and decried that the rest of his life. You beat their idea with your ideas. The heckler's veto is the worst thing that we can have. We got to have free speech, etc, etc. So I can understand how kids could come to that idea. The fact that adults go along with it is amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. And, and she gives several more examples of just brutal editing and, and context clearing. So she appears to call M.L. king Jr. A Marxist and, and appears to make statements about a black pilot that she did not say. It's absolutely outrageous and ugly and vicious and it it's so out of the same catalog of demonizing Jews and making up various blood libels and ridiculous stories and preaching hatred toward them without having a good conversation, without asking, hey, what's this? Is it true? What's your point of view on this? It's the viciousness of the mob, the angry mob going after conservative students. It's the opposite of education. It's the opposite of the exchange of ideas. It's a horror that any school would permit it to happen like this. You need to step in right now, twelve Bridges High School in Lincoln, California and teach the kids what the free exchange of ideas is about. That's what you're there for. And be very, very, very careful what you call hate speech. By the way, The kids at this club have been harassed, threatened online, doxed through fake accounts and targeted simply for participating in a lawful student club. Students have the right to protest. They do not have the right to intimidate or harass others. Lincoln School District how hard are you working to figure out who is doxing and harassing kids? That's brutal. I'm 100% certain you have an anti online bullying protocol.

[Joe Getty]

Of course I do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you enforce it now? Get started now.

[Joe Getty]

Well imagine if somebody was harassing a trans kid on that be a completely different story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tell you what, the. The left is a mob of angry monsters. Oh, you don't think that's true? I would take a look at the angry monsters amongst you and tell them, hey, that's not cool. It's not in my power to stop leftists from being angry mobsters, you know, the angry members of a mob. But it is in yours. Maybe you get started again. Today would be a good time.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

I don't understand why people haven't figured this out. If you overreach, it does you more harm than good. If your enemies are as bad as you claim, you should be able to do them in with their actual words. You don't need to, like, leave stuff out or take it out of context or make stuff up. It's like the BBC editing that documentary about Trump. If his Trump's as bad as you say is and he's pretty crazy, just use his own stuff. You don't need to edit it in such a way that it's completely a lie, Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Everybody overreaches.

[Jack Armstrong]

There is a deep, deep blue town. No matter how red your town is within your town, it's your local schools.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. That's worth thinking about. We got more on the way. If you got any comments on that text line 415295 KFT.

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[Joe Getty]

So it was which sandwich did they get for $2?

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, I didn't hear a McMuffin.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, McMuffin. That's a pretty decent sandwich. I haven't had one of those. A sausage? Cheese? I like those. Those are good.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think of it as particularly oily.

[Joe Getty]

No, I don't either. Well, he's a New York elitist who's gonna mock what we, the regular people, like to eat.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't approve.

[Joe Getty]

Huh. Raising money for the scouts. Then I want to ask us all about our grade for the year. Gladys's chip dart. Gladys's tip jar was in for $40 to help out Scouts, help more kids be able to join scouts to cover the couple hundred dollars it costs to get started. $25 from Cat Pervert. What was that? I don't remember that story. We got a clip around that it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, do you remember that one?

[Joe Getty]

He don't. Hegseth's double tap for a hundred bucks. Oh, $250 from Jack's giraffe. Appreciate that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, you know what? We never did pay off the discussion yesterday about why I've changed my mind a bit on releasing the videotape.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because the. The point was made. I can't remember where I read it, but that it's much, much longer than I was picturing. It's not just Kur bluey and then you see the smoke clear, then guys on the wreckage, then kerblooie again. I don't know how long it is, but I could picture it including a fair amount of dialogue and I don't know, maybe even information on the screen or whatever. I don't know what all's on it.

[Joe Getty]

Do you have any idea how some people saw it and said it was the most horrific thing they've seen in public life? And some people saw it and said it looks like all the other videos to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't believe them for a minute. I take nothing from that description. You know what I do. I respect Tom Cotton and he might be edging his comments a little bit. Hedging his comments a little bit, but the Democrat was saying it's one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in my life. There are a lot of things in warfare that are horrifying, especially if you're not used to them. That just didn't mean anything to me.

[Joe Getty]

Back to the donating to scouting. Got a hundred dollars from a decent human. That's pretty good. I like that. That's a good moniker for yourself. You're just a decent human giving money to a good, good outfit.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are a couple left, so let's get a total.

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[Jack Armstrong]

There you go.

[Joe Getty]

She wears the cool little rock and roll gloves like you're a rock and roll drummer. The fingerless gloves like drummers have. And then she twirls her sticks with both hands, which is pretty cool. Cool. Very Tommy Lee. Like, here's our total $120,000. $222.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

I shot my mouth off yesterday and said I thought we could hit 150 by the end of the show. We got to do it in the next hour and five minutes. It's going to have to be a big final hour. So it's really on the whole. Yeah. You're planning to donate. You're running around, you're busy all week, you're working, you got kids to pick up this and that and shopping. You plan to do it? It. We'll do it. Now go to armstrongengeti.com it just takes a couple of minutes. It's real easy. Armstronginggetty.com and many, many people will be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Listening in the future via podcast. You need to go to armstronggetty.com click on donate now whenever you are listening. Thank you very much.

[Joe Getty]

So I was just wondering. I did this at the Christmas party yesterday. I went around and asked everybody what their grade was for the year. I was just asking business wise. I don't, I think, I just think for us, how about just life wise? What's your grade for the year for your life, Michael, your life this year, how was it compared to other years? You got it compared to other years. You can't use like some starving kid in Africa or obviously you have an A. Oh, that's what I was gonna go with.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd say overall a B plus.

[Joe Getty]

A B plus. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

None. A for your year. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's good. Katie.

[Katie]

I'm gonna go A minus.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. You got pregnant this year.

[Katie]

I did.

[Joe Getty]

Not easy, though.

[Katie]

Not easy. A lot of good, a lot of rough. So we'll go A minus.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, cool. Hanson, what do you give your grade for the year for your life? A C. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hanson, coming into the C. But that's not inflated grade. C. That's, that's like just average year.

[Joe Getty]

Old school C. Yeah, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

See, I don't know if there's a story behind that or what I remember. Well, I'll give my grade. I, I would be probably a B plus, A minus, B plus in there. I don't know why I don't, I don't know what this is about. My personality. I have a, I, I, I regularly say negative things and have a negative outlook. But like for my own life, I always think things are fine and gonna be okay. I don't know why that is. And other than the year my wife dumped me, which I think I gave that year a D or an F, I'm usually at a B plus or A minus somewhere.

[Jack Armstrong]

Rough one. Well, if that doesn't get you a D for your year.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Being in the grave and then you can't say what your grade is. Yeah, I've got, you know, it's funny, I've got to review the year in my head. I gotta go A minus. It's been lovely in a lot of ways. Some challenges and sadness and, you know, a little setback here and there, but overall, yeah, it's, it's, it's been a pretty good year.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Personally, yeah. But your, your personality. Would you ever go much lower than an A minus? Probably. Probably not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it depends what happens, I suppose.

[Joe Getty]

Right? You know, the wife dumping you thing, like I mentioned, that's a tough one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah. I mean. Well, there are a number of things that could happen.

[Joe Getty]

If I lost my job and a tornado took my house, I suppose I'd be a lower grade.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, so I don't understand your question. Would I ever go below a B minus? Yes. If I got shot and used to lost the use of my legs? Yes, I would.

[Joe Getty]

What kind of question is that outside of an extraordinary occurrence? Because you, you said Hanson C was just kind of like an old fashioned graving kind of an average year. Well, you're. So is your average year in A.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely in your, your solid B. If I was to average out a bunch of years. Yeah, something like that.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like my average year is like a B plus or A minus. I don't know what that means.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Hanson's a tough grader.

[Joe Getty]

He is. You are a tough grader, Hanson.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, maybe he needs to get on the air and, and spill his guts and maybe, you know, maybe it's your abuse that kept it from being a B. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

The guy caused it to be a C. I'm just asking the guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here, here. I learned this from Tucker. I'm just asking questions. I'm not tacitly accusing people of things.

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